Mike gets the last word in this exchange.
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Is it passive-aggressive if you’ve asked a person multiple times to leave the toilet seat down and they continually forget so you leave a note asking them to “Please remember to put the toilet seat down.” and then post it above and next to the toilet?
May 21, 2007 at 7:44 pm rating: 1
Alice, why do you ask other people to lower the toilet seat for you ? Can’t you do that by yourself ?
Dec 30, 2007 at 4:34 am rating: 10
Toilet seats are dirty, and someone who didn’t touch one doesn’t want foul toilet germs right before they wipe themselves. Someone who just finished is about to wash their hands (or else they don’t care about the germs)… though I guess that doesn’t address the fact that guys have to lift it before they pee.
Regardless, guys sometimes need the seat up and sometimes need it down, and girls always need it down, so why not leave it down?
Jan 3, 2008 at 12:32 pm rating: 6
Why not leave it down? Because it’s unfair to expect us to do that. This is an argument for the ages, and though we guys can change our behavior so as not to hear girls complaining, your argument will NEVER be right.
Let’s say it’s one of those times when I need the seat up. You needed it down, and you left it down. I lift the seat up to use the toilet, do so, and then flush. Now I have to put it back down in case you go back into the bathroom before I do, so that I’ve had to move the seat twice so you don’t have to move it at all.
It’s worse if I actually DO go to the bathroom again before you. Because then I’d have to lift the seat and put it down again. Now I’ve moved the seat a total of 4 times so that you don’t have to touch it.
That’s why not to leave it down.
Sep 26, 2008 at 3:07 pm rating: 22
And as for foul toilet germs… as you said, you’re going to wash your hands anyway. It only takes one hand (and not even your most talented hand) to move the seat up or down, and for me, personally, it only takes one hand any time I wipe anything. One hand for each job should do the trick. How do you handle snacking on the toilet anyway?
Okay, just kidding about the snacking. But seriously, you have two hands. If you didn’t, you probably wouldn’t be wasting energy typing comments here
Sep 26, 2008 at 3:18 pm rating: 5
Or you know, you could just use your foot. That’s what I do to put the seat down. =/
Mar 14, 2009 at 2:36 pm rating: 4
When I got upset one time about piss on the seat (as a girl, I personally don’t care if the seat is left up, I just don’t want to clean up someone’s piss), the boys in the room misunderstood (drinking was involved) and thought I was complaining about the seat being left up, and a debate ensued. Among the responses, my favorite solution came from a male friend of mine: “Put both the seat and lid down every time so no matter who goes in next, they have to lift something.” So pragmatic! I love this and I try to do it every time now. Highly recommended. Just please don’t pee on the seat, especially if it’s not your house.
Mar 14, 2009 at 4:32 pm rating: 13
That’s how my husband and I solved that debate. Also safer for pets (or kids, for those who have them), and keeps stuff from falling into the plumbing (which does tend to aggravate landlords).
Aug 10, 2009 at 6:54 pm rating: 7
actually, a study that measured bacteria levels on different bathroom surfaces showed that if a toilet was flushed with the cover up, 10x more bacteria was later found on various surfaces, including the *toothbrushes*. the act of flushing aerosols bacteria into the air, and then they settle onto the sink, your toothbrush, etc.
that’s why you should put the cover down. the seat just happens to be under the cover.
Nov 13, 2009 at 9:22 pm rating: 3
actually the door handle or your sink tap has about 100x more germs than the toilet seat. im a girl and i dont think any guy should have to up the seat down constantly, they shouldnt have to suffer because some women are princesses over imaginary germs.
one thing i do hate is getting up in the middle of the night half asleep, and falling through cause i didnt check if the seat was down =D
Nov 8, 2010 at 6:12 am rating: 3
In my home, everyone puts the lid down. It”s more sanitary. I bet my door knob is cleaner than yours.
May 5, 2011 at 12:30 am rating: 3
“Imaginary germs”, huh? Thanks for the chuckle.
Jun 10, 2011 at 8:21 am rating: 0
No, you’re just an idiot.
Be creative. With a note like that, I’d piss all over.
May 22, 2007 at 1:25 am rating: 1
What is the obsession with toilet seats being down, anyway?
It’s far more convenient for a good chunk of the population if it’s up as a default position, but you don’t tend to find people bitching about that!
Although I guess I just did… sigh.
May 22, 2007 at 8:05 am rating: 0
I really don’t care about pee that much. But when the seat is left up, as a girl getting up in the middle of the night half asleep or going to the loo after you’re a bit merry from a few drinks, you run the risk of falling in. When you plunk down on the bowl expecting a seat and encountering none, it’s extremely unpleasant and painful.
Aug 26, 2010 at 9:19 pm rating: 6
jesus! don’t piss on the seat! put the seat down! stop fucking other women!
nag nag nag nag nag.
that’s not how you get babies, you know.
May 22, 2007 at 9:19 am rating: 20
I’ve actually been contemplating writing ‘clean-your-piss-off-the-seat’ in the BOWL of our staff toilet – in permanent ink. Might give the men something to aim at, anyhow.
May 22, 2007 at 11:22 am rating: 3
If you shake it more than twice you’re just playing with yourself.
May 22, 2007 at 12:27 pm rating: 6
Surely the most sensible (economical/lazy?) position is to leave it however it was when you finished…no up/down decision to make.
But logic like that doesn’t win arguments over the toilet seat in my experience.
May 22, 2007 at 5:24 pm rating: 3
Mmm… I live with two other gay men and the issue has been delt with sans argument. Although we’re all male, the seat and lid are kept down ’cause it looks better… all of our bathrooms are Fabulous! and the sight of an unlidded toilet is just nasty…
May 22, 2007 at 6:22 pm rating: 32
THIS……. This right here…….this is why I wish I could afford to live in a gay neighborhood. Gay men make the best neighbors!
Jan 14, 2008 at 11:29 pm rating: 18
Joey's Stinky Foot
I’ll bet they don’t keep dishes piled up in the sink, either…AND they know how to use a coffee machine!
Jul 2, 2008 at 4:21 pm rating: 2
Um, the guy’s name is KREGG? That is not a name.
May 22, 2007 at 10:48 pm rating: 5
not an expert
Compare the handwriting. I think this is more of an example of MPD (multiple personality disorder) or a cry for attention.
May 23, 2007 at 7:15 pm rating: 0
this made me cry. it was so funny.
May 23, 2007 at 9:32 pm rating: 0
I wish my wife would stop leaving the seat DOWN.
May 25, 2007 at 12:34 pm rating: 0
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May 29, 2007 at 1:44 pm rating: 0
You leave the seat down because you leave the lid down. You leave the lid down because if you don’t, the dog drinks out of the toilet. You don’t want the dog to drink out of the toilet because he kisses you on the mouth.
Really, how much simpler could it be?
May 29, 2007 at 4:39 pm rating: 9
Another way to look at the seat up/seat down argument – it’s easier to leave every cabinet in your house open after you use it, but do you?
Oh, maybe you do.
May 29, 2007 at 4:41 pm rating: 4
Sophie on the Sofa
Seems trite but when I work in the kitchen I definitely have every cabinet and drawer open and there are many advantages. Try it. It works in the bathroom and bedroom as well.
May 29, 2007 at 6:40 pm rating: 0
Sophie on the Sofa
Leave your doors open and then you don’t have to fumble for keys. Learn to trust other people and maybe they’ll become more trustworthy.
May 29, 2007 at 6:41 pm rating: 1
I agree with Pie…I would normally have sympathy for the initial note-leaver on this issue, but anybody who spells his name “Kregg” loses points for pretentiousness.
I have to side with Mike on this one.
Jun 3, 2007 at 2:50 pm rating: 1
Ok, although this argument has never worked in reality, the theory is:
1. The current user’s responsibility is to adjust the seat to whatever position is needed for the task at hand. When finished, it is not necessary to modify the seat position. Best for single user or same sex user configurations.
2. Alternative for m/f shared configurations: The male user must always put the seat down when finished. However, to be fair, the female user must always raise it when she is done.
I don’t see why this doesn’t fly… and the female argument of going to the bathroom in the middle of the night without turning the light on just doesn’t hold water… See, at some point when every guy was around 4 or 5 years old, we once sat down on a toilet when the seat was up… Once! Now we look. Every time. You should too.
That is all.
Jun 4, 2007 at 12:00 pm rating: 3
I am now a fan of seat down even for pees. It means I can read a little of my book and hey, sometimes a #2 comes along. That’s at home, mind you, I wouldn’t do it elsewhere. Peeing without the light on … have you ever done it to find that the lid was down as well? Sitting on the toilet in the dark – have you suddenly felt the cold lid on your backside and thighs? Dark is NOT good.
Mar 30, 2008 at 3:23 pm rating: 0
Joey's Stinky Foot
SPQR, you contradict yourself. You say in a m/f household, the man should put down the seat when he’s done. If that’s the case, the female should not have to check to see if the seat’s down or not. Plus, fumbling for the toilet seat in the dark puts you at risk for germs by accidentally touching the toilet rim or even the inside of the bowl. And don’t get me started about not turning the light on–my half-blind eyes are too sensitive for that crap.
Jul 2, 2008 at 4:27 pm rating: 0
Piss is actually sterile. However disgusting it may be, it’s relatively safe. (Some fools actually drink the stuff.) On the other hand, poop on the seat is a health hazard and worthy not just of a passive-aggressive note but also an aggressive act of, er, aggression, say like, leaving a turd on the offender’s pillow. Well, unless they’re horribly sick or diseased then you might need to forgive the poor bastard. Or, if they’re over 80 years old. If that’s the case then you kind of have to expect it.
Feb 4, 2008 at 6:51 am rating: 0
Piss is sterile alright…until it leaves your body. Then it’s susceptible to growing germs. Would you NOT wash your hands after wiping them on day-old piss because it’s “sterile”?
Sep 7, 2008 at 11:41 pm rating: 1
To recap: The situation is some jerk won’t lift the seat and pisses all over it. A pissed up seat ain’t cool but it’s less a health hazard than seat even with spit (which is all over the wash basin). I was only describing proportion. Of course you should wash your hands. Hell, there’s all kinds of bacteria all over your dick too. Do you take a piss and then shake someone’s hand without first washing yours? There’s toxic matter all around us.
Sep 8, 2008 at 12:54 pm rating: 1
jus like my gf aslways bitching bout da toilet
Mar 22, 2008 at 8:41 pm rating: 0
humourous really calling her note passive aggressive and then writing a passive aggressive one himself bit hypocriticial what a match made in the toilet bowl.
Apr 22, 2008 at 5:12 pm rating: 0
Solution is always obvious. All close the LID on the toilet! Then EVERYONE lifts and EVERYONE lowers. and you avoid nasty germs flying in the air from flushing…
Nov 6, 2008 at 11:42 pm rating: 4
And wash your hands before going to the bathroom guys, your dicks been in your pants all day, your hands havent
Nov 27, 2008 at 5:53 pm rating: 1
Or have they…??
Jan 14, 2009 at 3:57 pm rating: 1
The real solution is for guys to piss in the sink, then you can wash your hands and everyones happy.
Mar 19, 2009 at 2:12 pm rating: 4
that’s strange cause me and my husband never this seat up/down problem. what one does when they finish, you flush. don’t say u flush with the lid up? argh! disgusting!
Sep 2, 2009 at 3:31 pm rating: 1
♫ Fecal Mist.
Sep 2, 2009 at 3:44 pm rating: 1
my rule in my house is the lid needs to be left up if someone has pissed.
that way i at least know that they lifted it and there wont be any pee on the seat.
( im the only female in a house with 4 guys)
Jun 13, 2010 at 4:39 pm rating: 1
Oct 2, 2010 at 2:40 am rating: 0
Toilet seats are one of cleanest common surfaces on average. Read about it. But if you are very neurotic about toilet seats, use a liner or toilet paper.
Feb 19, 2011 at 1:23 pm rating: 0
Guys, You don’t leave your car door open just because you might be driving again, do you? Just put the seat down already.
Ladies, I don’t care how sleepy you are – if you can’t check it before you sit, you deserve a wet ass.
Personally, I agree, with theposters regarding aerosols, and an uncovered toilet being nasty. I was raised to always lower the seat and close the lid.
OH, and any ladies out there with carpeted toilet lids – you DO know that sometimes it makes it damn near impossible for the seat to stay UP while we use it, right? A word of warning – I’ll use whatever I have to to prop it up…
May 5, 2011 at 12:29 pm rating: 0
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