No money, no trophy

July 12th, 2007 · 69 comments

This exercise in mass shaming is brought to us by Rocky in San Diego, who notes: “These are 5-year-olds playing T-ball.”

The players listed below still owe

related: A new tactic for Pre-K school fundraising…public shaming?

FILED UNDER: bold underlined italics · CAPS LOCK · excessive underlining · exclamation-point happy!!!! · message to all intended for one · Moms & Dads · money · public shaming · San Diego · unnecessary "quotation marks"

69 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Andy

    Oh. My. God.

    I’d take shove that note right up her t-ball!

    I love that she makes it sound like a bunch of kids, but it’s only one!

    Hey kid, gimme the damn money!!!!

    I wonder if the next game, she’ll have that kid get one in the ear.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 5:53 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #2   ForBoston

    Wow… I have trouble expressing words for this letter. Its just downright agressive. I find the worst part is that while the main body of the letter seems to be blanketing a large amount of people that the actual “list” only consists of one person. Way to single out and then shame a 5 year old in a sport that is supposed to build comradarie and confidence. What has become of our society where money even infiltrates childhood innocence. NOT TO MENTION ITS 104.00!!!

    Jul 12, 2007 at 5:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #3   grey

    Part of me wants to be on the side of the note writer… I mean, it sucks being the person who gets stuck having to be in charge of fundraising and get stuck with money that never comes in… it’s a thankless job, can be extremely frustrating, and you look like the asshole when you try to collect from people who should be responsible for themselves. I mean how hard is it to just turn in money?

    The note says the money’s been due since February, but doesn’t say when it was written… I’m hoping it was more than a couple of months and that the note writer made several other attempts to collect…

    However, on reading that note a second time and seeing only one player was listed…. that was a bit much, and now I’m torn.

    I’m still leaning towards team no trophy though…

    Jul 12, 2007 at 6:03 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #4   Heather

    The red…the underlining…the excessive exclamation points…the italics…the unnecessary quotation marks around “fundraiser money”…


    Any chance this was a mail merge, so that each person receiving the email would have only seen the name(s) he/she was responsible for?

    Jul 12, 2007 at 6:10 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #5   HotMom

    When they signed the kid up for t-ball they probably had the money but now the poor kids parents obviously don’t have the funds at this time. Give me a break! As a side note, if the parents would just talk to Gloria I’m sure that something could be worked out – it always can.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 6:11 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #6   Marissa

    I’d just love to find out that the parents were stupid enough to hand $104 to a 5-year-old and expect them to turn it over to the t-ball coach.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 6:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #7   Andy

    You know, now that I think about it, maybe she put fundraiser money in quotes because it really isn’t fundraiser money.

    I think she’s just performing a p/a shakedown, the dirty rat.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 6:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #8   jb


    maybe that name is merely the 529th on the list of delinquency. though that would make for a very large t-ball team.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 6:28 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #9   Andrew L.

    I love how Gloria’s email address starts with “sweetlady.” Sure sounds like the complete opposite to me.

    (the blurs don’t really hide anything)

    Jul 12, 2007 at 6:32 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #10   Caclark4

    Hmmm…I feel bad for these kids and the manager/reps who have to deal with this woman. While I agree that it can’t be fun to track down funding, it looks like its her position and most people don’t get positions/jobs at gunpoint. It’s kind of like a garbage man complaining about having to pick up trash…deal with it.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 6:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #11   ginger

    what a cow.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 7:10 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #12   Kristen

    Anyone owing me a hundred bucks for 5 months would get a note that’s just as aggressive and irritated as this one.

    How tacky to not pay for your kid’s t-ball team.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 7:24 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #13   Psipsina

    Well, I agree that the tone of the note is bitchy, but I disagree that because 5-year-olds are involved, money shouldn’t come into it. First of all, the note isn’t addressed to the wee tykes, or even to all the parents – it’s addressed to the Team Managers. Second, kids learn about financial responsibility from their parents. There are some pretty ugly names for people who enjoy something without paying for it: Deadbeat and Thief come to mind.

    There were times when I was a kid that my parents couldn’t afford for me to participate in some activity – so I didn’t get to participate. I was unhappy about it, but I learned from this that a dollar only goes so far.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 7:24 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #14   GhostWriter

    Things I hope:

    (a) That participation in the fundraiser was totally voluntary, but Gloria assigned debts based on perceived wealth.

    (b) That Gloria has become so agitated, she is actually arguing with herself- picture her jerking left, then right, saying “It’s been since February!”, followed by, “That’s No Excuse!!”

    (c) That the Bad News Bears, who aren’t going to get a trophy anyway, refuse to contribute, and in fact, steal the whole pot.

    …and finally (d) That #529 is Derrick Rucker, son of a jerk I once knew (from little league).

    Jul 12, 2007 at 7:25 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #15   Ingrid

    What a petty, petty woman.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 7:27 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #16   your dad

    Team Unnecessary “Quotation Marks” .

    I adore that this is both “passive aggressive” and contains “unnecessary “quotation marks”".

    Better than a “four day” weekend.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 7:48 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #17   Stephanie

    Wow. I love that the entire note leads up to the ONE NAME. What a beeyotch. She can’t simply talk to that one person’s parents? She has to send out a note ans shame them.

    Unfortunately, without more information, I cannot choose a team at this time. I don’t know what the fee is for or why this kid hasn’t paid (among other things).

    Jul 12, 2007 at 7:52 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #18   v-dog's mom

    Yeah, I figured out pretty quickly who this woman was and what her email address was as well. I was *tempted* to send her a copy of the passiveaggressivenotes URL so she would feel utter humiliation that the world was now discovering what a beotch she really is but I’m just not as small as she.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 7:57 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #19   sweavo


    What, you can’t believe 1?

    What’s wrong with 1? I can believe 1 quite easily.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 8:24 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #20   bethany

    I’m still stuck on the fact that T-ball costs 104 dollars. That is a lot of money for sitting out in the sun and chasing balls. I hope that’s not how much MY parents had to pay back in the day, because the only part I liked about it was the snack after…

    Jul 12, 2007 at 8:26 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #21   p-dog

    I don’t get the “shame” part a lot of you are referring to. She’s writing to the team manager/reps. That is, the one point of contact for each of the teams. The list attached to the bottom of each the letter almost certainly contains only those players on the team of the manager/rep that the letter is addressed to. She mentions that there is an incredible number of people who haven’t paid up. But apparently only one player is on this manager/rep’s team is deliquent. I wouldn’t call it “shaming” to notify the adult contact on the team that one (or more) of their players hasn’t paid up. Ummm… how else is she supposed to get the money. So let’s say that amongst all the teams in the league 10 players haven’t paid up. That’s $104 x 10 = $1040. That’s a lot of bux to not be accounted for. So I don’t think letting her frustration show is out-of-line. She’s trying to put a little fire under the manager’s/rep’s ass. Nothing wrong with that. And as for the “quotes”, and underlying, and different font sizes / font colors. … c’mon … that’s a class / education level thing. So I guess you could point your finger like Ralph and say “ha ha”, so if it makes you feel better go ahead. But it seems pretty tacky to me.

    All that said, I still don’t understand the use of the term “fundraising”. Is she being ironic?

    Jul 12, 2007 at 8:34 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #22   Rich C

    What does a trophy cost exactly?

    Jul 12, 2007 at 8:45 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #23   PatHMV

    I’d just add that the fundraising chair is often the person who gets stuck eating the loss when others don’t contribute. The bill from the trophy supplier (and, I assume, the bills from the ball park and the uniform supplier) don’t go down just because somebody didn’t pay.

    If the budget for the team was based on the promise of all the parents to kick in $104, and money was spent or contracts entered on the assumption that all that money was coming in, then the loss is coming out of some individual’s pocket. So whoever hasn’t paid really does need to pay, and if they’ve been ignoring the obligation for 4 or 5 months, then they’ve got a nasty note coming to them.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 8:45 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #24   Psipsina

    Team p-dog! And Team PatHMV!

    Plus, I really hate it when people use “they’re only little kiddies” as an excuse to evade adult responsibility. The only way to teach your kids to make good on their promises is to make good on your own promises. If you agreed to kick in $104, do it. If something has come up and you can’t afford it, suck it up and *talk* to the people in charge. Don’t just think you can walk away.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 9:09 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #25   Mel

    That’s really sad. Maybe the family is having financial troubles. Broadcasting one player’s “delinquency” is just downright mean.

    ALL CAPS points towards hideously harbored internal anger.

    A phone call would’ve sufficed.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 9:14 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #26   Psipsina

    But Mel, the point is, they’re not “broadcasting.” The note is addressed to the team managers, not to all the parents.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 9:17 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #27   LMZ

    As a former secretary of a LL, one of our fundraisers was selling candy. Now if this family took the candy, and hasn’t paid the League for it, the League will still be liable to the candy company. We always let the kids take the product and then they turned in the $ as they sold it. As far as this note w/ one child, it was probably a standard note that dropped in each child from each team through something like mail merge (which I have had to do myself). There are usually hundreds of families and many age groups involved.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 9:35 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #28   Michelle

    That’s really cheesy to skip out on paying for your kid’s t-ball. I’ve seen a lot more nastier notes in my day, and that ain’t one of ‘em. It’s a shame the parents weren’t directly noted, because it’s their responsibility. One thing my parents never did was leave me to be embarassed by their non-payment. You’d be amazed at how quickly money can be scrounged up, or how many things they had to go without.

    Sucks the kid gets no trophy, but he/she will find out about their parents soon enough.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 9:41 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #29   Writer, Rejected

    “Amount of people” is quite a little phrase. Especially since the number of people she reveals is one. Also, do you think this lady is a graphic designer on the side? She sure spent a lot of time fussing with font size and color, and keyboard doodads (****!!!!!) to make her shame-inducing note look “good.”

    Jul 12, 2007 at 10:23 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #30   PatHMV

    Mel, I strongly suspect that more than one phone call has already been made. That said, the note-writer is correct that the fundraising chair shouldn’t have to constantly nag the parents to get them to live up to their promises. If this were in fact the first communication to the parents about this, then that would be a different story.

    If the parents have really fallen on hard times, then they need to be upfront about it, embarrassing as it may be, and address the problem rather than just ignore it. They perhaps need to ask for help from some of the other parents. By ignoring the problem (and frankly the non-paying parents are the passive-aggressive folks in this story), they are going to stick some other poor sap on the team with coming up with the $104 that they can’t. Hard times or not, that’s not right.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 10:25 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #31   Shawn

    Folks, I don’t think that it matters that it was addressed to team managers, and not to parents. She’s shaming the team managers for not collecting the cash from parents, so it’s a moot point. And, who is she to deny a child or a child’s team a trophy due to one child not paying, no matter what the reason? Anyone who takes organizational issues out on a child is twisted and disturbed. And, finally, singling out one child/family for an APB to be badgered by the entire league is grossly inappropriate to say the least.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 11:37 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #32   Luke

    Is this the first communication? We don’t really know if it is or not. She says she shouldn’t have to, “CONSTANTLY ASK FOR MONEY” but as far as we know, this is the first time she’s requested payment and just gone ape shit about it. Giving the formatting and style of writing in the letter, that wouldn’t be a stretch of the imagination. Perhaps the parents assumed there would be a formal invoice for payment and, until receiving this psychotic letter, hadn’t even considered paying.

    Just like we can’t assume this woman hadn’t sent any letters before this ape shit letter, we can’t assume the parents are deliberately failing to pay, either.

    The only information we have for sure is this truly remarkable note. Clearly, if the author of the note had chosen to write sensibly, it wouldn’t have stood out enough to show up on this site. Imagine receiving an invoice from an engineering firm written like this. Just amazing.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 11:58 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #33   Casey

    How difficult would a phone call have been?

    Jul 12, 2007 at 12:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #34   Lauren_Says

    I just dont understand why she told the managers to address the PLAYERS about it. what is a little 5-year old going to say when questioned about the whereabouts of a supposedly owed 104 dollars?

    Jul 12, 2007 at 12:12 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #35   Writer, Rejected

    Well, bottom line: no money, no trophy. It’s always the kids who suffer.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 12:22 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #36   Igor Z

    Never mind, I couldn’t think of a snarky comment about the state of our society.

    Things were better when we were kids because everything was sharp.


    Jul 12, 2007 at 12:29 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #37   eatit

    When did this site become a meeting place for heartless assholes? This woman is a bitch, there is no way around that. The people that defend her are the same people that write notes like this. Life is short, some people are going to pay, some are not, that is just the way it is. Save yourself the trouble in the future and require that each team pays the entire amount needed to cover costs up front. I just don’t see why this is even an issue, and I can’t believe some of the fucks that are defending this woman’s behavior.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 12:37 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #38   FJLKJlskdfjSDLKFJ

    P-Dog: Hi letter writer Gloria!! How the heck are you doing and how did you find this website?

    Anyhow, you are one scary whacko in any event.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 12:37 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #39   feetnik

    Yeah, picking up a phone would’ve sufficed. If it had been a list of 20, I could understand her action a little better, but one kid? What would it have taken? 5 minutes? 10? Come on. I can’t stand it when people are passive-aggressive AND lazy.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 1:51 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #40   Angela Merkel

    Team Mail-Merge!

    Jul 12, 2007 at 3:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #41   the whizzenator

    Those tball trophies cost about 7 bucks each.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 3:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #42   Igor Z

    The most pathetic thing is that she really wanted to single out one kid, and masked it by referring to all the players like it was a major team-wide problem. Call the damn parents, loser.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 3:40 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #43   eat me

    lol, i hope they’re not the crappy plastic transparent ones i was forced to buy :p

    Jul 12, 2007 at 4:00 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #44   p-dog

    eatit and FJLKJlskdfjSDLKFJ:

    I recant. she’s a bitch, whacko, heartless asshole. Bitch bitch fuck die die. (Am I doing it right?) And all you who can see other people’s point of view, or like to try to understand what’s going on before immediately applying 4-letter labels with sticky-glue: So die die whack bitch asshole fuck. And shame, shame, SHAME to all you who defend the shamer!!! You’re obviously passive agressive.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 5:27 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #45   stopthepresses

    Team Not p-dog.

    Ralph doesn’t say ha ha!

    Jul 12, 2007 at 5:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #46   cesar

    google MMWLL and check out the guestbook link. hahaha

    Jul 12, 2007 at 6:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #47   Writer, Rejected

    Wowzer….it’s a little tense in here. I hate when I have to babysit the passive aggressive comments group. There’s really no excuse for it. And I’m sure glad none of you owe money on behalf of children and their gaming events because then I’d have to go Tony Soprano on your asses….in a letter of course.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 6:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #48   Shawn

    According to the website, she is the Parent Representative, not the Fundraising Coordinator (?)

    The guestbook comment is funny, but I would argue against further posts to their website. Just because Gloria has apparently lost it, it’s no reason to deface their little league web site.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 6:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #49   loren

    There are SO many ways that she could have gone with this, none of which required the attitude! I don’t care if it’s a mail merge or not. If I got an email like that, I’d tell the person to go blow it out his/her ass.

    As far as the trophy is concerned – give the kid the trophy, and tell the parents that they will have to pay the $104 next year before being able to sign up for LL. Duh.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 8:34 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #50   loren

    “Here IS the NAME of the players.”

    Two words tell me it’s more than possible it really was just the one kid.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 8:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #51   Simster

    I agree that people should pay for the activities they are participating in, it is not fair for others to have to subsidise non-payers for this kind of activity, however I don’t think it is ever necessary to use that many exclamation marks in a letter, the caps are a bit overboard too, and I am curious about where the babysitting comes in to it. I say, write up an invoice, give it to the parent/s when they collect the child from a game and if necessary follow up with a letter suggesting that they will be excluded from future participation if it is not paid. It isn’t fair to refuse a trophy for a child in retaliation for their parent not handing over money.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 8:40 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #52   Lisa


    Calm down.


    Jul 12, 2007 at 10:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #53   E

    The kid is FIVE…. denying him a trophy (when all of his little friends will get one at the end of the last game), publically humiliating him, using HIS name rather than his parents, ruining any positive results he got from being on the team in the first place… that is NOT teaching him adult responsibility, it is teaching him shame and that some adults can’t be trusted and are mean.

    For all we know, the parents DID turn in the 104 to the coach, or something else did happen. I bet this is one of those bitchy, long nailed, bleached blond moms with a boob job whose children are just as snobby and bitchy as she is… and finds great joy in picking on a kid. Her husband is probably the type to yell at a kid from the stands to “suck it up and take it like a man” if they tear up when getting hit by a ball (or like the one coach I saw… said that to the player who was upset that he hit another kid and hurt him) To name ONE name like that – to ALL the team managers, not just the one responsible for the child, is reprehensible.

    “I can’t believe the amount of people who haven’t paid” – yeah, right.

    Jul 12, 2007 at 10:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #54   BoggyWoggy

    Hmmm…sometimes it’s fun to be an asshole by not paying, just to get the collector all messed up mentally. It truly consumes these folks!

    Jul 12, 2007 at 11:53 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #55   Nattie

    Hmmm. I’m personally torn here. I’m good friends with a nice lady who handles the cash at my soccer club, and she is seriously underappreciated, so I can feel some sympathy for the note writer.

    I don’t think I know enough about the incident to actually join a team this time. For all I know it could be the 10th letter that’s been sent out, or the 1st. Either way I think the parents need to try and pay as soon as possible, and the note writer needs to calm it down a little.

    Jul 13, 2007 at 4:22 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #56   grey

    Someone made a comment that this isn’t teaching the child responsibility… well, I don’t really think it’s the fundraising coordinator’s job to teach other people’s children responsibility… and two, what is not paying your debts teaching your kids? It’s certainly not responsibility.

    Again, the tone of the note is a little crazed, but we really don’t know how many times she’s tried to collect from everyone. Was this the first or ninth try?

    And another thing, maybe all that yelling (!!!) and no-trophy-for-you-ing isn’t directed towards the kid(s?), but rather the managers/team reps whom she’s trying to collect from?

    Jul 13, 2007 at 5:45 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #57   Shawn

    grey, does it really matter who it is directed towards? It’s the kids who don’t get the trophy in the end. The ends don’t justify the means. I agree the note is crazed, and that’s the bottom line for me. Even though she is a volunteer, she’s in the wrong job.

    Jul 13, 2007 at 7:49 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #58   grey

    Well, the point about it being directed towards the managers was in regard to “shaming the kids,” and “teaching them responsibility.”

    Like I said, I think the note is pretty crazy, but I could partially understand it if this was the 10th time she was trying to collect the money… and if there’s a bunch of kids (using the theory that this was a merged document type thing), who all owe $104, wouldn’t you kind of be pissed that you’re getting stuck with the debt of a grand plus?

    And yeah, she might be in the wrong job, but sometimes, when you’re involved in these things, you just get stuck with the job if no one else will do it.

    Jul 13, 2007 at 7:57 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #59   John

    I see a lot of people on here saying the people who owe money may have fallen on hard financial times.

    If the money was for fundraising, and they don’t have it, then they must have spent it, which means they spent $104 that DIDN’T BELONG TO THEM.

    Now when the rightful owners of the $104 come asking for it, hell yeah they’re going to be pissed off.

    Jul 13, 2007 at 11:08 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #60   SilverNeurotic

    And the Bitch award of the year goes to this lovely woman.

    Jul 13, 2007 at 7:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #61   E

    I’m still Team 5 year old. – this shouldn’t have been a bulk email but just one more calmly written one to the one coach or to the parents, and not with such anger.

    Jul 13, 2007 at 9:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #62   Nostalgia

    Team p-dog (Jul 12, 2007 at 8:34 am).

    Going by the whizzenator’s estimate at 7 bucks each for ten or more kids… Team photo, perhaps? It adds up. I wouldn’t want to field the bill.

    Jul 15, 2007 at 6:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #63   Megan

    Team grey. So the kid doesn’t get a trophy…have the parents explain to their kid where the money flew off to. Sounds bitchy? So is not paying what you’re expected to.

    Jul 21, 2007 at 9:36 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #64   Spruce Moose

    I won’t take sides, but suggest possible expenses to be covered by the missing $104.
    Team Jersey (no that doesn’t mean I’m on Jersey’s side)
    Team Photo
    Awards dinner
    Balls, bats, Tee, other equipment. It all adds up.

    Jul 26, 2007 at 8:12 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

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    Jul 26, 2007 at 10:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #66   Tara

    That is hilarious! And scary!

    I imagine this Glora person wearing sunglasses and speaking with an Italian mob boss accent, maybe beating the kid with a golf club after every exclamation point. Maybe busting out her nines and popping the listener in the kneecap every time the text turns red!

    “Where’s my fucking money!!!!? Don’t play with me man! You have money for all that TYCO! Don’t play that shit with me! Where’s my fucking money?! Where’s the money, man?! ”

    Then she holds the listener underwater for a few seconds until they splutter and choke.

    Or maybe I’ve been watching too many episodes of the Sopranos. Seriously though, excessive. You can be civil and single out a player without getting so threatening.

    Aug 26, 2007 at 9:55 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #67   Tech Guy

    Nice job blurring out the letters in the organization’s name. Uh… I can read it.

    Nov 26, 2008 at 9:51 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

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    Dec 18, 2008 at 4:23 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

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