clarifying motion #2

March 12th, 2008 · 104 comments

after a minor breakout, matt in toronto “borrowed” his roommate’s clinique cleanser…and then forgot to put it back where he found it. his (admirably direct) roommate asked if he’d mind not using her clinique products again in the future, seeing as it was, you know, pretty expensive and not that big of a container. “no problem,” matt said. crisis averted!

that is, until last week, when matt ran out of his own face wash. instead, he used his roommate’s (again) and then forgot to put it back where he found it (again). the next day, when matt went to use her cleanser again (after forgetting to stop at the store to buy his own) he found this little clinique bonus.

clarifying motion #2

matt’s mea culpa: “i shouldn’t have been using her products in the first place, especially after she asked me the first time. i’ll just make sure i never run out of anything ever again!”

related: is nothing sacred?

Tags: actually totally reasonable · roommates · toronto

104 responses so far ↓

  • #1  unholyghost2003

    ooooooh! Lovin’ the PA “First” Reference when one is a first commenter Oh Pan Goddess!

    Moving on, WOW I think this is the first healthy roommate relationship we have seen one here! Congrats Matt & Roommate you EACH win a years supply of Clinique face wash!

    Mar 12, 2008 at 9:31 pm   rating: +1  

    • #1.1  Lurker

      Yeah, I’m impressed by Matt and NotMatt. NotMatt’s use of the PA note was justified, since she did try to work it out face-to-face first. The note itself is frank and direct without being rude. And Matt admits to us that he’s wrong - hopefully he admitted the same to NotMatt. All he needs to do now is buy her a new tube of Clinique and I’ll give them my blessing.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 10:56 am   rating: +1  

       
    • #1.2  zoe

      It’s sort of funny, too.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 1:43 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #1.3  Matt

      My roommate and I (I’m the Matt above) are actually very direct with each other, and after almost two years of living together, have a pretty good system and relationship. I used her Clinique a total of two times (once the week before, and then again once, almost twice the following week), and I figured since we share a lot of other products she wouldn’t mind and she actually did understand.

      We chatted about it, but since we have very opposite schedules, she though she’d leave me a note, since she couldn’t afford for me to use that specific line of products any more. We share everything else, except our skin care products. Haha. We both use Clinique - I use the men’s line.

      Apr 14, 2008 at 8:33 pm   rating: +1  

       
    • #1.4  Matt

      My roommate and I (I’m the Matt in the note above) are actually very direct with each other, and after almost two years of living together, have a pretty good system and an awesome relationship - we’re great fiends. I used her Clinique a total of two times (once the week before, and then again once, almost twice the following week), and I figured since we share most things in the house (laundry products, food, alcohol, etc.) she wouldn’t mind that I was using her products for a couple days since I forgot to buy my own.

      We chatted about it (after she wrote the note), but since we have very opposite schedules, she thought she’d leave me a note, since she couldn’t afford for me to use that specific line of products any more. I thought it was SO funny that she left a note, since we always tell each other if there are issues (which doesn’t happen very often).

      We share everything else, except our skin care products now. Haha. By the way, we both use Clinique - I use the men’s line. I used to use the cheap stuff, but I’m telling you, make the switch. My skin is way better now.

      Apr 14, 2008 at 8:49 pm   rating: +1  

       
    • #1.5  Troy McClure

      Aren’t fiends supposed to have bad skin? Does Satan know you’re both using Clinique?

      Apr 14, 2008 at 9:07 pm   rating: +2  

       
     
  • #2  brinkofacomplex

    Matt gets points for realizing what a dick he is, but that in itself doesn’t make him less of one.

    Mar 12, 2008 at 9:32 pm   rating: 0  

     
  • #3  Canthz_B

    Team don’t use my toiletries.
    Especially if mine are Clinique and you usually buy Suave!

    Mar 12, 2008 at 9:40 pm   rating: +3  

    • #3.1  eh

      Team don’t use my toiletries.

      i am dealing with this problem myself and no matter how many times i ask them not to use my stuff, and despite the fact they have their own shit and haven’t even run out of their own, they ignore me and keep using mine. if i leave it in the bathroom they think it’s free game (despite my repeatedly asking them not to use it). therefore if i don’t want them to use it i have to hide my products in my room until i need to use them. if i accidentally forget them in the bathroom they will use it like flies on shit. and not just a little bit. they like to squeeze out huge quantities because they don’t even appreciate using things in moderation. totally disrespectful. i’m this close to going ape shit on them, leaving a passive aggressive note, or pissing in their shampoo.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 12:14 am   rating: +2  

       
    • #3.2  Lurker

      My guess is that they’re doing it on purpose just to provoke a reaction from you.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 10:53 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #3.3  amazon

      Team men who use girly products!

      My boyfriend uses my Paul Mitchell tea tree oil shampoo, even though his head is basically shaved! For the sake of our relationship, I decided that anything that encourages good hygiene can’t be that bad, and bought a bigger bottle.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 2:49 pm   rating: +2  

       
    • #3.4  Clint Eastwood

      Sounds like you need yourself a real man there, sugar britches.

      Why don’t you swing on by my room and I’ll show you what a dirty man can do.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 2:53 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #3.5  amazon

      hmm… I guess I can spare 2 minutes…

      Mar 13, 2008 at 3:01 pm   rating: +5  

       
    • #3.6  Andre

      O SNAP

      Personally, I suspect the reason Matt “forgot” to buy his own replacements is the monumental shame he will feel when talking to the woman at the department store cosmetics counter about his dermatological deficiencies.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 7:29 pm   rating: +1  

       
    • #3.7  summer

      Who could resist a medicine cabinet filled with goodies like that?!!?!?!?!?! People who use an entire line of clinique should live alone.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 8:18 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #3.8  Mishee

      Andre, if a man can boldly walk in a store and buy tampons for his wife/girlfriend/sister then I don’t think Matt should have any issue buying some facial scrub…

      Hell, it might be a good aisle in the store to meet a girl… then he can steal HER facewash!

      Mar 13, 2008 at 8:24 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #3.9  Andre

      Mishee,

      There are men that can do that?

      I never could, I’d be worried about committing some horrible faux pas like buying the “extra large” tampons by mistake.

      And anyway, if he did meet a girl in that context he could never be sure she wasn’t just using him for his skincare products.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 8:33 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #3.10  Mishee

      Extra large by mistake? Methinks you do not have any sisters then…

      Every man should know what kind of tampons/pads his significant other uses regularly… hell, we know what your favorite foods are and what kind of socks you like, why can’t you guys make an effort dammit??

      Mar 13, 2008 at 9:12 pm   rating: +1  

       
    • #3.11  karin

      I used to send my husband to the store with box tops for those particular products. We’ve gotten all techy now and I send him with pictures on his cell phone. He originally offered to shopping for that stuff (”hey, everyone who sees it knows it’s not for me - it’s just flaunting that I have a girlfriend” as he went to the next town over to shop at that grocery store when we lived less than a mile from our regular one!).

      Mar 13, 2008 at 10:08 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #4  Canthz_B

    It’s not the size of the zit.

    It’s the potion in the lotion. :-)

    Mar 12, 2008 at 9:46 pm   rating: 0  

     
  • #5  Canthz_B

    I do love the generic nail clippers slumming with the Clinique products! No red-lining in that medicine cabinet.

    Mar 12, 2008 at 9:54 pm   rating: +1  

    • #5.1  secondsout

      I wondered if the nail clippers were placed there to subtly hide the name of the roommate in the signature. Maybe?

      Mar 13, 2008 at 12:14 am   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #6  PassionateCliniquer

    I’m wondering why his roommate is using the Clarifying lotion #2 and make up remover for dry skin and acne potions that are for oily skin?

    Increase that exfoliation honey!

    Mar 12, 2008 at 10:24 pm   rating: 0  

    • #6.1  karin

      maybe they are for different seasons?

      Mar 13, 2008 at 10:12 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #6.2  HAT

      Naw, I do the same thing. Dry in some spots and oily in others; oh the joy of combination skin! I’m a clinque freak too. My sister works at a counter and she has an entire closet worth of stuff - - so jealous!

      Mar 15, 2008 at 9:47 am   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #7  Detective Julie

    I don’t see how she can afford all her face products in the first place! Maybe she works at the Clinique counter.

    Mar 12, 2008 at 10:37 pm   rating: 0  

    • #7.1  face it

      Probably not they aren’t samples. Those girls at the clinique counter are hard core. “Honey your skin is awful you need one of everything, here let me get out the 25x magnification mirror and show you.”

      Mar 12, 2008 at 10:48 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #8  raiseyourglass

    He should just stick to borrowing the deodorant, pumace stone and toothbrush.

    Mar 12, 2008 at 10:41 pm   rating: 0  

    • #8.1  Aijaz

      Do you have any idea how difficult it is to wind the floss back into the container when you’re done with it?

      Oh, you said toothBRUSH. Never mind, then.

      Mar 12, 2008 at 10:49 pm   rating: +5  

       
    • #8.2  Chlor

      Hahaha! That’s SO wrong.

      Mar 12, 2008 at 11:16 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #9  Sarah

    This facial cleanser ain’t big enough for the both of us.

    Mar 12, 2008 at 11:07 pm   rating: 0  

     
  • #10  Chlor

    I’m kind of obsessive compulsive about squeezing the contents of the product to the bottom of the tube. Plus she has bad penmanship.

    Screw her.

    Mar 12, 2008 at 11:19 pm   rating: 0  

     
  • #11  RALPHY

    I notice just above the sign, there appears to be a bullet embedded in the wood. Just maybe Roomy has taken care of the problem. A bit harsh maybe, but it would tend to solve the problem.

    Mar 12, 2008 at 11:51 pm   rating: +2  

     
  • #12  secondsout

    Did Matt borrow her nail polish, lipstick, and eyeliner, too?

    Mar 13, 2008 at 12:14 am   rating: 0  

    • #12.1  Chipmunk

      No, it was facial products, so he used her foundation, powder, eyeliner, mascara, eyeshadow, blush, lipstick, and Super Shimmer Lipgloss.

      …WHAT. IT WAS “ROCKY HORROR NIGHT” AT THE MAJESTIC!

      Mar 13, 2008 at 1:58 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.2  secondsout

      hence his need to use the cleanser the next day, to get all that shit off his face.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 2:34 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.3  Writerrejected

      I lived in a co-ed house once, where one of the guys kept stealing one of the women’s cover-up. He’d just go in and use it, and then not even return it to her room. He’d leave it on his bureau in his room, which really pissed her off. She was like, “if you’re going to steal it, at least put some effort in.” Finally, she just bought him a tube of his own, so he wouldn’t contaminate hers with his pus-filled zits. I guess he was embarrassed to purchase a lady product, or something. It was all kind of gross, the whole idea. I stayed out of it. Not my domain. This seems similar. Maybe Matt wouldn’t be caught dead at the Clinique counter at Macy’s?

      Mar 13, 2008 at 11:31 am   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #13  Tobi

    When you can an entire set of name brand personal care products there is no such thing as “not being able to afford” anything. Tell her to stop complaining.

    Mar 13, 2008 at 1:59 am   rating: 0  

    • #13.1  tinkerbell2

      you’re kidding, right? so if she uses her (presumably) hard-earned cash to buy decent products she ought to be prepared to buy twice as much so her freeloading roommate can use it too? nice products are a luxury, and it’s up to her what she buys - he ought to buy his own. to be fair, it sounds like he usually does - and her note is pretty mild considering. and not even that PA, since she had already asked him in person the first time.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 7:40 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #13.2  GhostWriter

      …to be fair, she won’t have to buy twice as much. He washes his face only half as often as her.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 7:57 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #13.3  Tobi

      No I am not kidding. She makes it sound like she’s dirt poor and she obviously isn’t.

      Mar 15, 2008 at 1:43 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #14  thatlittlemonkey

    This is why I live alone. Whose overpriced face wash is this? Oh it’s my overpriced face wash.

    Mar 13, 2008 at 3:43 am   rating: +2  

     
  • #15  claw71

    Matt:

    I regret to inform you that you have been penalized the balance of your man points. You are not eligible for any man rehabilitation programs. Please forward your ball sack to the nearest man repository so it can be cleaned and given to a man who actually needs it.

    Sincerely,

    The Council of Masculinity

    Mar 13, 2008 at 5:37 am   rating: +3  

    • #15.1  Canthz_B

      Demoted to Metrosexual?

      Mar 13, 2008 at 6:23 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #15.2  RALPHY

      Now thats funny! I think he should also be forced to turn in his NRA card and be given 20 hours of comm. service cleaning out the shitter at the local womens reformatory!

      Mar 13, 2008 at 6:34 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #15.3  claw71

      No, CB, metrosexual is a probationary status. We are permanently revoking Matt’s man card.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 7:31 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #15.4  aj

      Yeah! A real man doesn’t wash his face at all!

      Mar 13, 2008 at 7:34 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #15.5  claw71

      I do, but I use LAVA.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 7:43 am   rating: +2  

       
    • #15.6  GhostWriter

      …and Matt- report to the mens room, stall one, where we will provide you with a face wash.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 7:50 am   rating: +2  

       
    • #15.7  boris

      I wash my face too, but I use sandpaper.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 8:13 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #15.8  secondsout

      Yeah, seriously… As a man, I feel just fine in using bar soap and Suave shampoo - and that suits me just fine. I don’t need to have my face smelling like a goddamn mango, and I only barely know what the word exfoliate means. Less money on shit like facial cleansers means more money for beer.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 1:08 pm   rating: +1  

       
     
  • #16  muddgirl

    Team “If you’re out of face wash then don’t wash your face”.

    Mar 13, 2008 at 7:20 am   rating: 0  

    • #16.1  tragically mep

      Or how about using soap Matt? I’ve heard that soap can be used for washing (in a pinch).

      Mar 13, 2008 at 8:07 am   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #17  claw71

    Matt’s Song (to the tune of I feel Pretty)

    Matt’s a sissy, a big sissy
    he feels pretty and witty and bright
    and he’s too cheap to buy face wash tonight

    He’s so smarmy, I said smarmy
    It’s alarming for him to steal
    A woman’s beauty products in little bottles teal

    See that fresh faced boy in the mirror there
    who can that girlish boy be?
    Such a pretty face, get that guy a dress
    Such nutless wuss, Matt’s not a man, you see.

    Matt’s such a sissy, a big ol’ sissy
    he loves to do such girlish things
    He’s trading in his nut sack for napkins with wings.

    Mar 13, 2008 at 7:43 am   rating: +5  

    • #17.1  Clint Eastwood

      I just wanted to say that claw71 is a shining star on this board. I’ve been reading these comments for a long time, I’ve dealt with some people who were supposed to be great writers but this guy is brilliant.

      And his blogs are fantastic.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 10:38 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #17.2  Charles Bronson

      Yep, he’s certainly quick on the draw, knows how to get others to speak for him too. Sheer genius.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 11:07 am   rating: +1  

       
    • #17.3  WickedLady

      Haha, nice! I’ve seen West Side Story about a million times. The dvd doesn’t work anymore, I need a new one. Didn’t know that was even possible…

      Mar 13, 2008 at 4:52 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #18  GhostWriter

    The note found in Matt’s roommate’s dresser read: “I’m sorry Matt, I can’t afford for both of us to wear Victoria’s Secret panties…tx

    Mar 13, 2008 at 7:55 am   rating: +5  

     
  • #19  KittyKat

    She better guard her tampons. There’s no telling what Matt would do with those.

    Mar 13, 2008 at 8:38 am   rating: +1  

     
  • #20  thatlittlebroad

    Team Brillo pad and soft scrub.

    Mar 13, 2008 at 8:39 am   rating: 0  

     
  • #21  Clint Eastwood

    I know what you’re thinking: Should I risk dry skin and use body wash, or steal some of her facial scrub?

    Seeing as how it reduces the appearance of fine lines as it exfoliates dead skin clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel oily?

    Well, do you, punk?

    Mar 13, 2008 at 8:57 am   rating: +3  

     
  • #22  Mishee

    I don’t blame her at all! Clinique is NOT cheap stuff!!

    Men should use soap - Lava soap if possible, or maybe Borax… but I always get a giggle when Mr. Mishee uses my apricot face wash in the shower… but it makes his skin so soft I don’t care for long!!! :D

    Mar 13, 2008 at 9:58 am   rating: +1  

    • #22.1  Clint Eastwood

      If he’s using apricot face wash his skin isn’t the only thing that’s soft.

      …but what do I know, I starred in a musical with Lee Marvin.

      Gonna get a manny, my nails will shine
      Gonna use a high gloss base because I look so fine.

      Like, oh my God, the ivory handled Colt revolver under my pancho makes me look so fat.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 10:35 am   rating: +1  

       
    • #22.2  unholyghost2003

      hmmm Mr.UHG has MUCH nicer face products than I do, they are Clinique for Men. Sometimes I steal them, mostly I use soap. I am so damn bad at being a chick!

      Mar 13, 2008 at 2:22 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #23  EvilTwin

    I’m sorry Matt, I can’t loan you my Prada bag for that function you have tomorrow night…even though it looks way better with that little Vera Wang number you’re wearing than with my Dior.

    thx.

    Mar 13, 2008 at 10:10 am   rating: 0  

     
  • #24  KittyKat

    I’m sorry, Matt, I can’t afford for both of us to use my toilet paper, so I’d prefer if you would go around smelling like shit. Or if you like, you can wipe your ass with this note.
    thx.

    Mar 13, 2008 at 10:37 am   rating: +1  

     
  • #25  nix

    Sorry, Matt, I’m with the roommate - Clinique is kind of expensive! Get her a gift certificate for them.

    Mar 13, 2008 at 11:08 am   rating: 0  

    • #25.1  zoe

      He used it twice! It’s not that big a deal!

      Mar 13, 2008 at 1:49 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #26  claw71

    Matt’s taking a beating here but he deserves it. He repeatedly used her products even though she asked him not to. The fact that he forgot to put the cleanser back afterusing it indicates premeditation on his part. He was hoping to get away with it.

    The fact is Matt never intended to buy his own, he figured he could pilfer his roomie’s for free. I’m glad we revoked his man card. I only hope women reject his application too.

    Let him be without gender: A pimply humanoid thing with no genitalia and no home… just an unhealthy streak of vanity, a lust for women’s toiletries and complete disregard for human decency.

    Mar 13, 2008 at 11:53 am   rating: +2  

     
  • #27  Pepelope

    So easy to fix it… It may not be right but it is understandable that Matt used once or twice a little bit of something that did not belonged to him. They share a household, what the heck!

    But of course, the roommate has all the right to be annoyed, specially because she does not know how often this has happened.

    Matt should buy a new tube of clinique cleanser and a bunch of flowers, write a nice apology note explaining he used the product only in the two occasions he misplaced it because his own facewash was over, acknowledge he made something to upset her, and promise he would never do it again because from now on he would always have an extra bottle of his own facewash, and buy a new one when the extra was opened.

    By the way, that’s what civilized people do with all toiletries and foodstuffs that don’t spoil too quickly, like sugar, flour and butter.

    Mar 13, 2008 at 12:33 pm   rating: +1  

    • #27.1  Clint Eastwood

      Civilized people don’t take things without askin’.

      Where I come from, a man might get killed if he takes another man’s hypo-allergenic facial scrub.

      Matt’s lucky. But luck has a funny way of running out. Or turning bad.

      Mar 13, 2008 at 12:52 pm   rating: +4