a matter of taste

June 2nd, 2008 · 200 comments

christine in san rafael, california says sol food is “literally the best thing about san rafael.” one reason? the restaurant “keeps this gem of a note right where it belongs — on display in the glass cabinet outside the front door, where most restaurants would keep a menu.”

seeing as the note has been up for about a year and half so far, it seems angelo’s threat hasn’t caused much concern. in fact, christine says, “the place is so popular that it always has a line out the door, which (bonus!) allows me to read it over and over again.”

a matter of taste

(see the lime-green exterior for yourself here and here.)

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  • #1  BabyTyrone

    Angelo must be either colorblind or new to Marin. That color fits right in with the general California-theme-park/I drive a pickup but I eat authentic Thai food at my roadhouse bar/national historic register of buildings less than 5o years old/etc. spirit of the area.

    Jun 2, 2008 at 7:00 pm   rating: +5  

    • #1.1  sam

      This is Marin, not Redding.

      Jun 5, 2008 at 2:17 am   rating: +3  

       
     
  • #2  Joyful

    Dear Angelo,

    Thank you for your kind words! Perhaps you and your small-minded, ethno-centric friends should try the hip new restaurant, Beigey McBeigersons, just down the street. You may find it more to your liking.

    Sincerely,

    San Rafael

    Jun 2, 2008 at 7:07 pm   rating: +41  

    • #2.1  Gez

      Your beige restaurant might be appropriate in Shitkick, Ohio but not here.

      Jun 4, 2008 at 1:17 pm   rating: +2  

       
     
  • #3  Jimmy Straightline

    The address block at the top is so “Dateline: San Rafael”

    Jun 2, 2008 at 7:17 pm   rating: +2  

     
  • #4  Stitchin-Liz

    Another example of a gay housewife that needs something to do with “her” ample free time.

    Jun 2, 2008 at 7:24 pm   rating: +1  

     
  • #5  park rose

    A blight and a pox upon the writer of this garish and ugly sentiment.

    Jun 2, 2008 at 7:43 pm   rating: +10  

     
  • #6  artchickhb

    There is an apartment community in Los Angeles on Wilshire Blvd that is painted baby poo yellow/green. They still manage to rent pretty well…

    Jun 2, 2008 at 7:44 pm   rating: +2  

    • #6.1  Dina

      I assume you’re talking about Park LaBrea (Actually one block north of wilshire, but the houses are so garish yellow I’m guessing this is what you mean). I happen to live there, and I’ll have you know that I have a line out my door every night.

      Mainly because my roommate is a “masseuse”, but nobody seems to complain about the paint job…

      Jun 2, 2008 at 8:04 pm   rating: +12  

       
    • #6.2  artchickhb

      Park La Brea is that way, but the property I was talking about is GLO. Baby poop on a building. I had never seen the like before…

      That being said, the inside is REALLY nice and I would probably rent there if I were looking for a LA place.

      Jun 2, 2008 at 8:55 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #6.3  Set To Evil

      I live a few blocks south of there (Glo) in a recently remodeled 4 unit craftsman turned into a Spanish style with bright yellow stucco and what we call the “Taco Bell Roof”. It;s actually very well done but the neighbors hated it, saying it was to bright (and they are Mexican BTW). Since then all the houses on my street have been re-done and it’s become a really nice block.

      Jun 8, 2008 at 12:51 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #7  Canthz_B

    Dear Angelo,
    The lime-green served its purpose. It grabbed your attention so I could grab your olive-drab money.

    Mrs. (I’m in the money) Hernandez

    Jun 2, 2008 at 8:05 pm   rating: +13  

     
  • #8  Persephone

    Good lord, how tasteless to leave such a note. I don’t know if it is racist or xenophobic. This person doesn’t get out much. Depending on what city you go to in the world, some places like bright colors. I lived in Iceland for a year and the houses were all painted really bright colors that contrasted nicely with the stark volcanic landscape.

    Jun 2, 2008 at 8:08 pm   rating: +3  

    • #8.1  Canthz_B

      I’ve never been to California (I like stable ground, LOL) but I have been to Arizona and everything there seems to fit the adobe spirit of the history of the place.
      If there is no city ordinance forbidding the color scheme used by Mrs. Hernandez, Angelo should keep his opinions to himself and continue to enjoy the food.

      Jun 2, 2008 at 8:22 pm   rating: +2  

       
     
  • #9  jando_27

    i think it’s pretty! :-)

    Jun 2, 2008 at 8:16 pm   rating: +7  

     
  • #10  G.Pat

    Let’s hope Angelo doesn’t return to retrieve the note when it dawns on him that he’s sided more patronizers with the restaurant than he has friends to encourage not to!

    Jun 2, 2008 at 8:34 pm   rating: +2  

     
  • #11  cricket

    Dear Angelo,

    coha le y caballo que usted monto adentro encendido, usted perra criticona.

    gracias.

    translation: Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, you picky bitch.

    Jun 2, 2008 at 8:35 pm   rating: +6  

    • #11.1  Rita

      FreeTranslation.com?

      Jun 2, 2008 at 8:55 pm   rating: +1  

       
    • #11.2  Closer

      Querida Angelo,

      Ch*nga tu y el caballo montaste aqui con, p*ta cricicona.

      Besos,

      Jun 3, 2008 at 8:58 am   rating: +4  

       
    • #11.3  jelloegg

      lol. Well said.

      Jul 2, 2008 at 2:54 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #12  K.

    racist much?

    Jun 2, 2008 at 8:38 pm   rating: +3  

    • #12.1  zombie z

      I’m just curious what ethnicity or nationality Angelo is that finds a sunny green* “garish and ugly.” It is likely that those people are the true enemies in the US’s War on Terror.

      *I know this doesn’t exactly make sense, but that’s immediately what I thought of.

      Jun 2, 2008 at 9:44 pm   rating: +3  

       
    • #12.2  Canthz_B

      Hmm…”The US’s War on Terror(ism)”?
      Odd seeing as how Great Britain, Spain and Indonesia (Bali bombing) among other nations have experienced terrorism as well. I’m sure any self-respecting Russian would talk to you about Chechens.
      Please don’t get too down on the US because it decides to fight back just because the fight is being led by a moron President.

      Thank you. ☮

      Jun 2, 2008 at 10:38 pm   rating: +6  

       
    • #12.3  zombie z

      You can’t wage war on a concept. Not Russia, not Indonesia, not the US. It just ain’t possible, semantically.

      Anyway, the last time I checked the US was the only one (currently) starting shit all over the damn place with some half-cocked reasoning and lies.

      Down with the bad guys and their green hating!

      Jun 3, 2008 at 12:57 am   rating: +16  

       
    • #12.4  unholyghost2003

      ummm not to put too fine a point on things but… as far as “starting shit all over the damn place with some half-cocked reasoning and lies” you might want to check again.
      Not that I agree with all of the US’s actions … just that we are hardly alone in the whole “international stirring the turd” thing.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 1:47 am   rating: +4  

       
    • #12.5  Canthz_B

      Terror is a concept. Terrorism is a tactic.
      Last time I checked the US was a member of NATO which means that an attack on one member nation is an attack on all member nations requiring a response from all others…or is that only when the US is coming to someone else’s aid?
      The US spends tens of billions more on defense than it needs to to defend itself. Just who do you think all that money is spent defending?
      Iraq was built on lies and stupidity, no denying that load of pig dung.
      But starting shit all over the place? Get a fucking grip on reality.
      Any time the US minds its own fucking business the world says that the US needs to be more engaged.
      Look at the Israel/Palestinian issue. Grown people always saying that they need the US to help. Leave us the fuck alone, sit down at a damned negotiating table and iron the shit out!!!
      Look at North Korea…why is everyone asking the US to engage? Let South Korea, Japan, China and Russia deal with their neighbor…but NO…The world wants US involvement.
      By the way, you’re welcome Western Europe and Southeast Asia. It was our pleasure to save you from Nazism and Japanese Militarism.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 1:53 am   rating: +33  

       
    • #12.6  derek

      Nicely said Canthz_B

      Jun 3, 2008 at 2:07 am   rating: +1  

       
    • #12.7  Sundance

      “You can’t wage war on a concept.”

      Sure you can. Piracy is one example.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 2:17 am   rating: +3  

       
    • #12.8  Canthz_B

      I apologize for the profanity, but people like zombie z, who have no concept of world history or geopolitics, just piss me the @#&* off!

      There has never been in the history of the world a nation with as much relative power as the US has that has been as benevolent with said power.
      Nor as generous with its wealth.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 2:23 am   rating: +9  

       
    • #12.9  unholyghost2003

      CB, Did you ever know that you’re my hero? You’re everything I would like to be. I can fly higher than an eagle because you are the wind beneath my wings!

      Jun 3, 2008 at 2:29 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.10  Canthz_B

      WWII was waged over differing concepts of what “The State” should be and how much power over the individual The State should have.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 2:31 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.11  Canthz_B

      :oops:
      toes the dust at unholyghost’s comment at #12.9

      Jun 3, 2008 at 2:38 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.12  unholyghost2003

      that an the genocide … but the genocide was totally secondary (being honest, no joke)

      Jun 3, 2008 at 2:39 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.13  Canthz_B

      Unfortunately no one fought the war over the genocide. The US turned a ship-full of refugees around in Florida and sent it back to occupied France, some say knowing that all aboard would be sent to Eastern Europe and almost certain death. The Russians were more than complicit in the holocaust, but they were our allies on the Eastern front so we said nothing.
      History is a bitch!!

      Jun 3, 2008 at 3:03 am   rating: +4  

       
    • #12.14  unholyghost2003

      but the genocide made such nice spin! … wait, they didn’t do “spin” in the olden days” did they? Politicians were just honest, right?

      Jun 3, 2008 at 3:07 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.15  Canthz_B

      Naw. They lied just as much as today but the press was kinder to them back then. LOL

      I’m still trying to figure out how being against killing innocent people with a car bomb to make a political point makes me “green hating” “bad guy”.
      Can’t I love the environment and people at the same time?

      Jun 3, 2008 at 3:40 am   rating: +4  

       
    • #12.16  unholyghost2003

      NO! we are a two part system. you either are “green ‘” love the environment and hate”conservatives. Or you love to kill foreigners, love burning fossil fuels and hate the poor. THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!!!!!!

      Jun 3, 2008 at 3:46 am   rating: +6  

       
    • #12.17  Canthz_B

      My bad…then I’m a…

      Figure it out for yourselves! HA!! :-P

      Jun 3, 2008 at 4:00 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.18  Canthz_B

      Just for fun…isn’t a “sunny green” something you’d find on the planet Krypton? :lol:

      My sunny days have a yellow hue here on Earth.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 4:35 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.19  zombie z

      Sigh. The “green hating” was in reference to the original post… The one about a “garish and ugly” green building.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 9:48 am   rating: +2  

       
    • #12.20  youdisappointme

      A minor point, but I can’t stand the way Americans are ALWAYS going on about how grateful we should be to them for WW2! We (the UK) started the war after an unprovoked attack on another country (Poland). You (US) entered the war 2 years later – after sitting back getting nice and rich while millions of people died and a nazi fascist regime was threatening to take over Europe - only when your precious Pearl Harbour was attacked! Yes, we needed you to help win the war and did want your involvement, but America only got involved when their own interests were threatened.
      Haha, who would have thought a note about a green restaurant would turn into WW2?!

      Jun 3, 2008 at 11:27 am   rating: +13  

       
    • #12.21  Canthz_B

      And so you make my point. The US does not go around stirring the turd in the world. We’d much rather mind our own business.
      We didn’t get very rich on Lend/Lease and for the two years before the US was officially in the war we lost more merchant seamen to u-boats that the British.
      By the way, the US did not get involved in Europe because of Pearl Harbor. We declared war on Japan, Germany declared war on the US as an ally of the Japanese then and only then did the US declare war on Germany.
      You may not know much US history, but our very first President warned against foreign entanglements and we have pretty much tried to heed his words for over two centuries.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 2:32 pm   rating: +3  

       
    • #12.22  Canthz_B

      I’ll tell you what, youdisappointme, we’ll just pretend that Dunkirk never happend. We’ll pretend that the US did not participate in the European theater during WWII and that Great Britain and France defeated Germany at the Maginot Line. We’ll pretend that there was no post-war Marshall Plan as well, ok? Feel better now?

      Jun 3, 2008 at 3:02 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.23  JoeInLA

      I think we should start a contest, along the lines of “Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon,” to see how few posts it takes us to get from the original post to a discussion of terrorism. We could call this one “Six Degrees of Global Terrorism.”

      Jun 3, 2008 at 3:11 pm   rating: +4  

       
    • #12.24  Canthz_B

      Godwin’s Law has held true on this thread so a “Six Degrees” Law sounds like it may have some merit, JoeinLA. :-)

      Jun 3, 2008 at 3:46 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.25  GhostWriter

      ho HO HOLD UP!!!

      The US does not go around stirring the turd in the world. We’d much rather mind our own business…

      Oh Yes It Does.

      Sure , there are many wars we were asked to join, but there has also been plenty of wars we’ve instigated, declared and funded. George Washington may have warned against it, but nobody listened.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 4:00 pm   rating: +8  

       
    • #12.26  Honzik

      Your comments made me laugh, Canthz B. Bitterly, ironically. But they still made me laugh.

      America did save Britain from Nazism. We would have starved in 1941 if not for America. I thank you, as does my father who serviced the USAF planes which took off from bases in eastern England during the war. But if you hadn’t saved us, the Soviets would have won the war anyway. Would have taken them 10 more years, but no doubt about it. Brits would be speaking Russian as a second language today, not German. So let’s just put that myth to bed, can we?

      Dunkirk? One of my dad’s friends was on the HMT Lancastria, sunk by the Luftwaffe just off Dunkirk. He spent 18 hours bobbing about in the Atlantic. He’d have been ever so grateful to see an American ship steaming toward him, as would the 4000 of his comrades who drowned around him. Unfortunately Dunkirk was May 1940, some 19 months before the US joined us.

      As for “avoiding foreign entanglements”, wasn’t it FDR who said that he wanted the US to be the world’s policeman? It’s a shame they took the LAPD as their model and not the Mounties. Ask anyone from these countries whether the US has avoided interfering with their affairs: Iran (1953), Iraq (1963, and practically ever since), Afghanistan (1978), East Timor (1975: 200,000 killed), Cambodia (700,000 dead. Yes! America backed the communist Khmer Rouge!)…the list goes on. Anyone from these countries can tell you of someone they knew who was killed by some arsehole backed by US dollars and US arms. “Benign”, anyone?

      Might I make the respectful suggestion that the ludicrous US arms budget is not expended in the interest of world peace, but for the benefit of such corporations as Halliburton, Boeing, AAI, and General Dynamics? They certainly seem to do better out of the money than the pulverized civilians of Fallujah.

      As for the Marshall plan, that plan did nothing for the UK except finally destroy it as a superpower. FDR, and later Truman, loathed the British Empire and made it a condition of the post-war lend-lease settlement that the UK dismantle it. Now, I’m no fan of empire, and Britain’s demise was inevitable. But isn’t it funny how the US, which makes such great play about freedom (self-serving and laughably inacurate films like The Patriot) got right into building its own empire. Many of the dirty, dark little wars the CIA has fought since WWII have been in pursuit of empire. But still the word sticks in your throat.

      Like I said, funny comments. Funny to be lectured on US and European history by someone who seems to know only what they’re told.

      DISCLAIMER: I like this site and the people who comment here. It makes me laugh, while telling me something simultaneously depressing and uplifting about the human condition. It’s no place for geopolitical discussions. But I didn’t start this.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 4:05 pm   rating: +14  

       
    • #12.27  Canthz_B

      I never said we were against enlighted self-interest. Just that we don’t get involved if we have no interests involved.
      As for the USSR, they received lend/lease aid from the US as well. In fact the Soviet Union came out of WWII $20 billion in debt to the US.
      That the US dislikes empires is not a secret, but the British Empire would have ended after WWII without the US in any event…just like the French Empire did. It’s really hard to keep colonies when the locals have seen you bloodied.
      Finally, the last time I looked large US corporations are not alone in the world of arms sales.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 4:24 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.28  Canthz_B

      PS, sorry about all of the deaths at Dunkirk but it doesn’t harsh my buzz in the least. You were at war in a war you declared. Shit happens.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 4:27 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.29  Wade

      Hmmmm

      Interesting thesis, Honzik.

      Iran? Iraq? Afghanistan?

      Let’s just say that when it comes to interfering and exploiting nations around the globe, the United States had a wonderful teacher in Jolly Old England (with an assist from France in Indochina).

      The shame is that we did not learn from your mistakes.

      Oh, and the Marshall Plan was largely responsible for keeping you from speaking Russian, so I would say the inevitable loss of empire was a fair trade off.

      And I still like the lime green walls.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 4:33 pm   rating: +4  

       
    • #12.30  claw71

      Wow those are some real blinders there, CB. The US always has ulterior motives when it gets involved. That’s why Ronald Reagan took Apartheid South Africa’s side and called Nelson Mandela a terrorist.

      As for the current war, NATO was on our side but Bush ignored NATO’s request for more thorough intelligence and a more diplomatic approach. Part of being in NATO and the UN is diplomacy.

      The reason the US got pulled into WW2 was because we couldn’t seem to keep our imperialistic noses out of the rest of the world’s affairs. We were shipping supplies and providing assistance to British forces long before Japan attacked. Nobody owes the US a thing because we’ve been collecting pounds upon pounds of flesh ever since.

      Look, I’m glad I live here but I know that my freedom and prosperity comes at the expense of a lot of people. I’m not going to get upset when they call me out.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 4:37 pm   rating: +13  

       
    • #12.31  Wade

      Well, duh, claw.

      NATO should have known that requesting more intelligence from Bush was a lost cause.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 4:42 pm   rating: +9  

       
    • #12.32  anglophile

      To be fair, CB did say in his first post on this thread that Bush was a moron. I’m pretty sure his opinion of Reagan is similar. :P

      Jun 3, 2008 at 4:46 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.33  Canthz_B

      No blinders. claw.
      I’m more than aware that the US has it’s fingers deeply imbedded in the geopolitical pie.
      I just wish people would ask themselves what the world would be like if her fingers were not in the pie is all.
      I don’t see the USSR defeating Germany without a Western Front, but that’s all conjecture anyway.
      Public opinion was very much isolationist in the late 1930’s and 1940 and ‘41 and many still think that lend/lease was unconstitutional, but we did what we could.
      Japan was pissed because we stopped selling them steel and (but don’t quote me on this one) oil.

      I’m no Pollyanna and don’t think the US is a saint…just that we are not the demons some would have us be.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 4:54 pm   rating: +2  

       
    • #12.34  Honzik

      C B: You see, first you say its benevolence. Then you say it’s enlightened self-interest. Can you see the difference? I’ll bet the 700,000 ghosts who haunt the paddyfields of Cambodia can.

      Every significant foreign policy decision (both overt and covert) the US has made since 1945 has been in the interests of US empire. “Enlightened self interest”, you call it. Funding the mujahideen in Afghanistan is enlightened self-interest. Bankrolling Saddam Hussein is enlightened self-interest. You’re in sight of the truth now, just a little push: let’s call it plain “self-interest”.

      Your compatriot Wade is at least honest about US Imperial power and the oppresion and misery it cause. Though, Wade: please read more closely. I said I was no fan of empire, and regard British adventures in that field as an abomination. But at least the British were frank about their ambitions and didn’t bang on all the time about spreading freedom and democracy (those peculiarly American fetishes. How welcome they must be to a mother who has to pay for their implementation by wiping her child’s brains from her face).

      Hey, and CB? I appreciate your condolences about Dunkirk and the men who died there. I’ll be sure to pass them onto my dad’s friend, though he’s a bit deaf now. He’s 86! He’ll appreciate being told he declared war, and be happy that your buzz isn’t in the least harshed. By the same token, I’m sorry so many of your people died in Vietnam (a war which you declared and lost), and continue to die in Iraq and Afghanistan (wars which you declared and which inevitably, and sadly, you’ll lose).

      Though please forgive me if I reserve the major part of my sorrow for the British servicemen and women and many hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis who have died for American ambition because British politicians have handcuffed themseleves to a lunatic and no one who matters seems to give a shit.

      I think over a beer we could probably reach a compromise. You seem to be retreating from that “city on the hill” American exceptionalist bullshit that you started out with. And we have much in common. Your country, like mine, is up to its neck in blood. I just had to point out that the US has behaved wretchedly in its international affairs over the last 60 years. Welcome to the imperial club.

      I so wanted my first post here to be about something else.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 6:19 pm   rating: +13  

       
    • #12.35  Sundance

      WTF Honzik? Chill a bit, huh.

      I think I know what this is all about. You and CB can have that beer next month on our national holiday.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 6:47 pm   rating: +1  

       
    • #12.36  Canthz_B

      Those deaths don’t harsh me either. War is still Hell and always will be, but if you’re going to make an omelet you’ve got to break some eggs.
      You don’t like how the US played it’s political hand during the Cold War. I’m sorry about that. Maybe we should have appeased the Soviets like the UK appeased Hitler. You really want to count the lives lost during the Cold War against those lost in WWII because of your appeasement policy? You’ll be counting for a very long time, my friend.
      I never said that the US was TOTALLY benevolent, just more so than any other Nation which as much relative power has ever been. Just my opinion which you chose to misread.
      I’ve never said that America is a shining city of perfection on a hill, again that is your imperfect impression of how the ugly American views himself and his country.
      The US will never be an altruistic state, but no one else is either.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 6:48 pm   rating: +1  

       
    • #12.37  KittyKat

      I love how we’re all Ugly Americans and yet with your first post, honzik, you start throwing around the insults. But yes, we’re the rude ones and you are so superior.

      in case you didn’t notice, that was sarcasm

      Jun 3, 2008 at 6:55 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.38  Canthz_B

      For the record, Prez. Bush is a dolt.
      Please don’t think that the American people buy into all of the “spread freedom and democracy” crap.
      If you ask the average American you’ll find out that we are deeply isolationist at heart.

      Unfortunately, with great power comes great responsibility. Making everyone happy is an impossibility so pros and cons are weighed and yes, sometimes the choices are only between the lesser of two evils. Reality bites, but there you have it.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 7:04 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #12.39  Honzik

      Sundance, sorry if I perturbed you. What was it? The brains? Sorry! Let’s pretend it didn’t happen. Like on TeeVee.

      C B. That’s better. Now we’re talking about the true difficulties of holding empire. We’ve left behind fantasy scenarios of “people” asking the US to intervene (who? when?) in North Korea or the Middle East, and of the US as some benevolent global force. Now we’re into shades of grey, and relativist discussions. Your point about Cold War losses v. WWII losses is valid, though conjectural. I still don’t think the US has behaved any differently from the way that any other western country with a tradition of democracy and a desire for empire would behave in a similar position. That was my point.

      Can I observe that you seem to have toned down your enthusiastic support for US foreign policy since your first post?

      And as for your comment about views I might have about “ugly Americans”, this discussion is about government, not people. My American friends and the people on this board make me feel pretty, witty, and gay! And I LOVE American weiner.

      Jun 3, 2008 at 7:07 pm   rating: +3  

       
    • #12.40  Canthz_B