A deep-seated issue

July 17th, 2008 · 620 comments

Marcus in Leicester, U.K. found this stuck to the lid of the toilet by one of his housemates. “I’d understand if it was the seat,” he says, “but the lid?”

Marcus: It seems that you are unaware of the fact that is is considered a social norm to close the toilet lid after you have used it. I hope this information is helpful.

I’m with Marcus, here — I don’t think this is some kind of Dear Abby “does the toilet paper go over or under?” type issue. Is there anyone else who considers closing the toilet lid de rigueur?

related: dearest roommate

FILED UNDER: "helpful" advice · "up for debate" · etiquette · toilet · U.K.


620 responses so far ↓

  • #1   SarahBelle

    Dearest housemate,
    I’m a dude. We don’t do that shit.

    Jul 17, 2008 at 11:54 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   Joe bang

      There can be valid reasons. I’m a guy living by himself in a cheap, one-bedroom place; my bathroom is small. The countertop around the sink houses my deodorant and other such items. Unfortunately, it is perilously close to the toilet.

      Also, I put the lid down to have somewhere to put my clothes while I shower. Because, even if they’re dirty, I’m not putting them on that nasty floor. (Hmm, maybe I should address that issue? Nah.)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 7:57 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.2   A

      It’s not even a dude thing to “forget” to put the lid down. I’ve never heard of that being common courtesy (and I’m a girl who fancies herself pretty manners-concious). It’s polite to put the seat down so that pee-ers in the night don’t get their asses wet by falling in, but requiring the lid to be closed is a little extreme.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:41 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.3   Dave

      I’ve always been good about putting the seat down, and also the lid from habit since it makes the flush quiet. Now my wife gets unhappy with me if I put the lid down, because the in-the-night scenario leads to her sitting on the lid.

      On the other hand, I am supposed to put the lid on the downstairs toilet down because she doesn’t want the cat drinking out of it.

      Love her lots, but really now, different rules for different toilets? Way more than my boy brain wants to deal with.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:01 am   rating: 33  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.4   Mishee bang

      Just remember not to use the hand towels either.. but only in the guest bathroom – for the love of God wash your hands, just do it in our bathroom. Better yet, why not just stay out of the downstairs bathroom all together? I think that would be best.

      And the pillows on that bed in the room that is never used? DON’T TOUCH THEM or they will need to be refluffed and arranged!!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:12 am   rating: 35  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.5   meandjez bang

      speaking of shit dude, you are spraying it all over your towels and toothbrush when you don’t close the lid…but i think that’s only been said about a million times already, but sometimes you just need to hear it again

      Jul 19, 2008 at 6:48 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.6   Canthz_B bang

      Mmm, not particularly.
      I think the point has been more than adequately made.
      Perhaps you just wanted to hear you say it?

      Jul 19, 2008 at 6:59 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.7   Mishee bang

      Troy – this is getting ridiculous… did you put the order in for more Unitards?

      meandjez – I think you should read post #132 and do your time. I do believe that since you did this willfully and knowingly that you must do the entire 20 hours.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:09 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.8   Canthz_B bang

      The motion is seconded.
      Without objection…
      The motion carries!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:14 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.9   Jaybird

      Maybe it should be the “Social Norm” to check the seat to make sure it is down before you sit

      Jul 19, 2008 at 11:48 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.10   meandjez bang

      yep did post that comment willfully and did read 132 and now that i’ve seen how easy you all were i’m bored again..now what

      Jul 21, 2008 at 9:56 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.11   Tricia

      I think it should be understood as common courtesy being that it would make things equal between men and women if we all had to put it down; the men could put both the seat and lid down in one swoop. I recommend closing it before flushing to prevent the bacteria from flying around the room and landing who knows where. That’s a rule in my house.

      Besides, if you find the toilet with both the seat and lid down upon entering the bathroom, I don’t think it’s too difficult to figure out what is expected of you once you finish your business.

      Jul 23, 2008 at 5:38 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #2   JanScholl

    my daughter is so spazz about the lid being down. She doesn’t want the cats to drink from it. I have news for her-it wont stop them or the dogs if they really want to drink from the porcelain crown. Mine lift the lid, drink and then scoot back and the lid falls back into place.

    Jul 17, 2008 at 11:54 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   pry

      i have a 2 year old son and a couple of cats. so in my house, you leave the lid down. i’m not writing any post-it notes about it, though.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 7:36 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.2   Numinous bang

      After my cat fell in the toilet (because he apparently is too spastic to take a drink properly) and left a dirty kitty prints all over the seat, I decided it was best to keep the lid down at my house too. I would not, however, claim that it’s a commonly accepted practice, except among the OCD afflicted.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:49 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.3   cre8tivewmn

      It is a rule here too for the same reason. I got in the habit a long time ago when I had a cat who liked to get onto a high shelf in the bathroom when I wasn’t around. He jumped down on to the toilet once….and the rest is history.

      I still have cats and taught all my boys the habit too. Their wives may thank me someday.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:55 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.4   amazon bang

      I never used to put the lid down, until I got cats. I think it is a rite of passage for every cat to fall in the toilet at least once… twice if they’re not particularly bright.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:16 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.5   amy d bang

      I have 2 cats, neither of which has fallen into the toilet (yet). I keep the lid up.

      One of my cats frequently falls into my bath water, however.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:23 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.6   Mishee bang

      kitty in the bath? you know you like when that happens amy girl.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:30 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.7   Lauraebk

      um, what is a porcelain crown? I have heard of a porcelain throne.. does it become a crown when the head goes in? Darn it, I must be too old to know this stuff. At least I dont have a sixhead.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:53 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.8   karen

      i believe a porcelain crown is something one gets from the dentist.

      Jul 21, 2008 at 2:51 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.9   iamme_13

      I’ve kept the lid of the toilet shut at home ever since my cat fell in and pulled the lid shut on himself and my dad had to get up and let him out… I mean you can’t teach the cat to be smarter, but you can rearrange your life so he doesn’t get stuck in the toilet again!

      P.S. a night light in the bathroom will help you determine if the lid and seat are up or down!

      Aug 7, 2008 at 4:39 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #3   Atheros

    It’s considered more hygienic to do so, but I wasn’t aware it was the social norm. Certainly not something to write a passive-aggressive note about (heck, what is?).

    Jul 17, 2008 at 11:55 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   RandyinReno

      Why do we need a reason?? This is simply a great example of passive voice in a truly passive aggressive note.

      The Romanian judge gives it an 8.5

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:03 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.2   snee

      that romanian judge is a tough bastard.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:09 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.3   Lauraebk

      More hygenic for whom? Frankly the less things I touch in a bathroom that is shared, the better! If someone just wiped thier booty a bit haphazardly and then shut the lid, I am not gunna be the first in line to touch it. In and out.. thats my motto!..hmmm…

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:55 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.4   agatha christie

      They say it’s more hygenic because microscopic particles are expelled from the toilet when we flush, and those particles come with tiny microscopic bits of fecal matter in them which can subsequently attach themselves to surrounding surfaces. Now, the actual amount of fecal matter expelled is very tiny (as you can imagine), but to some people who are neurotic about cleanliness, that’s enough to keep the lid down when they flush.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 12:36 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.5   Victoria

      Totally agree. Flying fecal * matters* .

      Jul 19, 2008 at 9:37 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #4   Julie

    I read once that it was better if you have children to close the lid. I don’t have kids, and I’m not planning on having them for a long time, but I’ve gotten myself in the habit just in case I go over to someone’s house who has them. That way I won’t be at fault if the kid drowns in the toilet.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:01 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   w_nightshde

      I have kids, and unless you enjoy them playing in toilet water it is better to leave it down.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 5:08 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.2   Kev Orng

      If someone’s kids drown in the toilet, I’d call that natural selection in action! But I’d still feel bad for them.

      More likely that they’ll try to flush something else down there. My neighbour recently caught her son trying flush a chopstick.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:25 am   rating: 40  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.3   Canthz_B bang

      When you child-proof your home you put child-protection locks on the lower cabinets. This is so your younger children cannot get into them.
      If you really think that your child cannot open a toilet lid, I’d suggest developmental testing.
      Most likely, if she/he is big enough to play in the toilet, she/he is strong enough to open it.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:15 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #5   Eww

    I think the leave the lid down norm (and everywhere I have been it is a norm) came from when there used to be sewer rats who would crawl out of unclosed toilets.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:01 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #5.1   Numinous bang

      Have you seen sewer rats? You better put a concrete block on top of that lid if you expect to keep them out.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:51 am   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
    • #5.2   leigh

      In my neck of the woods it’s just dog sized cockroaches… and the lid wouldn’t stop them.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 6:08 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #5.3   Joy

      I’m from New York City, and as everyone there knows, you have to keep the lid down because of alligators, NOT rats, crawling out of the toilet from the sewers. That’s because of people who go to Florida and bring back baby alligators in their suitcases. Or is it crocodiles?

      Jul 21, 2008 at 3:43 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #5.4   Erika

      Used to be? Rats still climb up from the sewers into people’s toilets in Seattle. Apparently, the preferred method to get rid of them is to squirt liquid dish cleaner around the bowl (to make it slippery), shut the lid, and flush.

      Jul 24, 2008 at 3:02 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #6   L

    i always close the lid. you don’t have as many germs floating around that way, or at least thats what i like to tell myself.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:03 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   Jahzzie

      I just prefer that the SEAT is down, I couldn’t give a flying fig about the lid. It’s funny to watch the cats scramble when they fall in, and as far as stuff falling in, it only happens once. You learn not to keep anything important like hair to toothbrushes too close to the edge.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:18 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.2   snee

      flying figs won’t be a problem with closed lids.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:58 am   rating: 24  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.3   goose

      WTF is your toothbrush doing balanced on the toilet seat?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:12 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.4   ALA bang

      There are water particles that escape when you flush…they can float several feet. As soon as I read that, I started closing the lid.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 5:09 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.5   amazon bang

      Ok, for all your germaphobes, guess what? You have mites living around your eyelashes! Yes, these guys are crawling on your eyelashes as we speak. Enjoy!

      http://www.electroherbalism.com/Naturopathy/MiscAltHealthTopics/Parasites/parasite_pictures_and_videos/eyelash_Mites_1.jpg

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:52 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.6   Canthz_B bang

      I am SO IN LOVE with you amazon! ♥

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:02 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.7   amazon bang

      Shh! Don’t tell my boyfriend that ;)

      Before my legal career, I worked in a bacteriology lab, decoding E.coli genes. (Yeah, I know, it was just as much fun as it sounds.) I got over any germaphobia real quick!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:15 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.8   Kev Orng

      Wow, I get a kick out of reminding an arachnophobic friend that he’s never more than six feet from a spider, but now that seems so… amateur

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:29 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.9   Canthz_B bang

      I did home demos for Kirby vacuum cleaners for a couple of weeks when I was 19.
      Oh, the things we sleep with! 8-O

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:31 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.10   lampnerd

      yeah but the note did not specify to shut the lid before the flush

      Jul 24, 2008 at 8:04 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #7   Canthz_B bang

    Social norm or family custom?
    Of all the things prospective roommates need to be clear on before moving in together, this ranks beneath last on the list.

    As long as the toilet is flushed after use why hide the water? Everyone knows what’s in there.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:03 am   rating: 17  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   snee

      EWW! toilet water is just…it’s just…um, yeah…it’s just water.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:00 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #8   Bikerbabee

    Dearest Roomie,
    I thought it was awesome and mature of people to have actual face to face conversations of this sort, but, thanks for giving my friends at PAN a new note to snark over.
    Marcus.

    I have some penis stickers and glitter for you to put on there too Marcus.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:09 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #9   Quite Contrary

    I leave the lid down so my cat can sit on the toilet and paw at and shred the toilet paper.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:16 am   rating: 24  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   amazon bang

      So many cat owners in here! I wonder what that says about us?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:21 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.2   Quite Contrary

      Cat owners are awesome!

      Jul 20, 2008 at 4:25 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #10   Quite Contrary

    Dearest Roomie: No. I was aware. And I didn’t find the information helpful.

    Signed, Marcus

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:18 am   rating: 24  small thumbs up

     
  • #11   Lo

    I’ve had a snake crawl out of my toilet before, so I freak out when anyone leaves the lid up, as well.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:28 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   Moonsilver bang

      Ya know, if that hadn’t just happened to a woman right here in town, out of her washing machine, I would have sneered at this as a ruse. She called animal control and they removed a Python from her home just yesterday.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 3:27 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #11.2   Lo

      No ruse. Ours was luckily just a garden snake of some kind, I think? It wasn’t poisonous and it wasn’t a python. Still almost gave my mom and I both a heart attack, though. I can’t imagine if it was a python. Ugh!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:46 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #11.3   leigh

      Surprize buttsecks?

      YIKES

      Jul 19, 2008 at 6:10 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #11.4   Canthz_B bang

      Oh come now.
      A python?
      One may have gotten into her washer, but more likely through the door, not through the plumbing.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 6:24 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #11.5   Mishee bang

      *wonders if this occured in Ohio*

      If so, that might just not be a python… was it albino by any chance?

      Jul 19, 2008 at 6:38 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #12   Beadknitter

    It’s not in the MissManners book of good etiquette, but why have a lid on the thing if you’re not supposed to close it? In addition, I grew up in earthquake territory. You close the lid to keep things from falling into the toilet during an earthquake, no?

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:32 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #12.1   Canthz_B bang

      “…but why have a lid on the thing if you’re not supposed to close it?”

      I honestly don’t know. Why have doors that we keep open?
      Easy access, I suppose.
      I live alone so I know who’s been on my throne! LOL

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:02 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.2   Joe bang

      CB: No more rhyming now, I mean it!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 7:47 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.3   Canthz_B bang

      :?:

      Jul 18, 2008 at 7:51 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.4   Joe bang

      Alone, throne. Sounded very sing-song when I read it.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 7:59 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.5   TygerAKC bang

      Anybody got a peanut?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 7:59 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.6   Canthz_B bang

      Sometimes words just rhyme.
      I was not trying to do so that time. ;-)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:07 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.7   Kev Orng

      Why do 24-hour convenience stores have locks? These are the great mysteries of our age.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:30 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.8   Canthz_B bang

      According to a Stephen Wright joke: A guy sees a clerk at the convenience store locking the door and asks, “Why are you locking the door? The sign says open 24hrs.”
      The Clerk says, “Yeah, but not in a row!”

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:47 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.9   Mishee bang

      nevermind.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:02 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.10   unholyghost2003 bang

      Beadknitter,
      I will accept that as a good reason to keep the seat down for you but you do realize that while Leicester, UK had an earthquake this fast Feb. (5.3 on the Richter scale) it was considered a freak thing. Making news because it was “the biggest in 25 years!” Just saying Earthquakes, not a huge deal there.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:07 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.11   Mishee bang

      Beadknitter – that is why here in EQ country (which you apparently aren’t in anymore, unless I missed the memo and the fault lines have shifted to Northern Idaho – and if that is the case, I will have to let the citizens of the Bay Area know so they can breathe a collective sigh of relief) we do a lot of things differently. But as ghostie said, not everywhere is used to the rolling and shaking that we have come to love (if it’s 5.0 or smaller, of course – Oct 30, 07 was a “Happy Quake”!)…

      I also store all my breakable knickknacks on the lower shelves and closer to the ground, but I doubt everyone thinks in retrofitting terms as California citizens seem to do.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:23 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.12   amazon bang

      I live in EQ country, and I’ve never heard of anyone closing the lid for that reason. Well, now I’ve heard of one person ;)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:26 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.13   Lauraebk

      Duh!! The lid is there so you can stand on the toilet when you are trying to change the lighbulb. Right?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:59 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.14   Drunkbunny

      I found out why 24 hour convenience stores have locks one time when I was driving down the street and saw a tornado heading right for me. I pulled into a 7-11 and tried to run to the store for shelter. The clerk and all the customers were in the back, some peered around when they heard me try to get in, but none would unlock the door for me. I had to get back in my car and drive away from the tornado as fast as I could.

      So you see, the locks are so that, in case of a natural disaster, they can deny people shelter and increase the death toll.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 10:32 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.15   amazon bang

      Actually, the lid is there so you can stand on the toilet to hang clocks.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 6:20 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.16   lampnerd

      stuff can fall into the toilet even without an earth quake, am i wrong?

      Jul 24, 2008 at 8:14 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #13   amanda

    Lid should be down. Otherwise when you flush, all the minute water particles with bits of poo in them will fly across the room and onto your toothbrush. (However I would have just asked nicely, not left a note…)

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:34 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #13.1   Canthz_B bang

      How do they all know where to find your toothbrush?
      Just kidding, I get you. :-P

      I flush with the lid down, but only because it’s quieter. I read that there are more germs on the average work desk than the average toilet, so I’m not really worried too much about germs. They’re everywhere and that’s just part of life.
      As far as a lid being up or down I am not moved either way.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:43 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.2   Mike

      You’d think we would all be sick constantly, what with all the flying germs and bits of poo in our world. Alas, it seems we somehow manage to be healthy most of the time.

      I try to remember to lower the seat for the next person, but the lid, not so much.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:14 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.3   Calophi

      Haven’t you seen Mythbusters? Poo will get on your toothbrush even when it’s in the *kitchen*. People need to get over it. Poo-bacteria is *everywhere*.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:00 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.4   Kev Orng

      I usually consider it a good policy not to poo in the kitchen. I have, however, brushed my teeth over the kitchen sink.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:04 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.5   amazon bang

      Unless your toilet lid hermetically seals every time you close it, you’re gonna get toilet water particles all over your bathroom, including your toothbrush.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:29 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.6   Lauraebk

      Wait.. so we put the lid down, flush. open the lid to make sure it all went down (dern modern toilets) put the lid back down and repeat as needed? man. I am tired just thinking about it.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:07 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.7   Xtroll

      Obviously you didn’t watch the Myth Busters program where they actually found more fecal matter on the control toothbrushes in another room than they did on the toothbrushes in the bathroom. So much for your theory.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:15 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #14   Canthz_B bang

    After doing a fair bit of Googling on this I guess the lid should be down, especially if you have that four-piece bathroom rug and toilet set! :-)

    I haven’t found the stats on “toilet-lid-left-up” related deaths however.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:51 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #15   Chelsea

    I suppose some people have an issue with certain things, like toilet lids being down. If you have a quirky thing that tends to bug you, why not ask nicely before bustin’ out the PAN?

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:51 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   Mishee bang

      Chelsea – if everyone were to do that, where would we all waste away the work day? icanhazcheezeburger.com? yeah…. doesn’t sound as fun.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:06 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #16   Canthz_B bang

    Dearest Roomie,

    I have noticed that you are diligent about closing the toilet lid after use.
    Could you please in future take a peek inside the bowl before leaving the bathroom? I’m tired of being surprised by your “floaters”.

    Marcus

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:12 am   rating: 31  small thumbs up

     
  • #17   Ryan

    Who the hell is this “Social Norm” – ?

    Mind your own business Norm…. Just shut up already. No one asked you or wants your goddamn opinion!

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:17 am   rating: 33  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   Kev Orng

      You’d think Social Norm would be a big hit at parties, but he’s really just a judgmental know-it-all, isn’t he?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:32 am   rating: 28  small thumbs up

       
    • #17.2   shane

      He really knows how to make you feel stupid.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:51 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #17.3   anon

      He must be related to anytime stan…

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:00 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #17.4   snee

      i think Social Norm was married to Thx Sandra until she had a torrid affair with Anytime Stan.

      slut.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 5:17 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #18   Ryan

    Take the goddamn note and superglue it to the inside of the toilet bowl. Cover the whole damned thick with clear-drying glue. Now the note’s a permanent fixture in the house – just like the sink!

    That will serve as a reminder to everyone and will save the note’s author a lot of trouble in the future.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:21 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   Kev Orng

      Or better yet, throw away the note and put the superglue ON the toilet seat. Then you won’t need to close the lid.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:33 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #19   David

    the only time i regularly put the lid and all down is when i worked with a couple of women who made a big deal out of the guys leaving the seat up. if you close the lid, the ladies get the equal treatment of having to open the toilet instead of the special deal they really want, which is to just sit on it without even looking. since the men have to reposition the seat anyway, they never notice the difference.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:23 am   rating: 23  small thumbs up

    • #19.1   snee

      if that’s considered a “special deal” for womankind, then i think we might want to aim a little higher.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:07 am   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.2   Canthz_B bang

      When it comes to toilets a “special deal” for womankind might be if we aimed a little better! :-P

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:37 am   rating: 27  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.3   Kev Orng

      This one time when I had a middle-of-the-night forgot-to-check-the-seat bum-in-the-water moment, I never thought, “SOMEBODY didn’t put the toilet seat down!”, I thought “That was dumb of me, I should have checked the seat.”

      Imagine if guys got mad because someone always left the seat down… “I can’t aim through that! Why can’t you leave the seat up?” I think most people’s reaction would justifiably be, “Uh, take the 2 seconds to lift the seat, buddy”

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:40 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.4   Rachel

      I couldn’t care less about men leaving the seat up or down. If a woman is dumb enough to sit down without looking (seriously, do you sit without checking for a chair at your desk or the dinner table?), then she sort of deserves to get an assful of toilet water.

      I, also, would like a different “special deal” than having the lid up and the seat down.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:42 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.5   Fla Boy

      I solved the problem with a commercial type seat. No lid. Both dogs drink from the toilet with no apparent harm. They will not drink from their water bowls. Do you suppose the flavor is better in the toilet?

      And how does Mike know the next person is going to want the seat down?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:51 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.6   Moonsilver bang

      19.3 I’m pretty sure George Carlin did a bit very similar to this…

      Jul 18, 2008 at 3:35 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.7   Kev Orng

      @Moonsilver, I wouldn’t be surprised if he did.
      I grew up on Carlin but I don’t remember that one, do you have a link? My story is true but I should probably make sure it’s not violating any copyrights! I was planning to use it as part of a certain project, and now I might not.

      Jul 21, 2008 at 3:02 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.8   lampnerd

      brilliant!!!!!

      Jul 24, 2008 at 8:18 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #20   Lis

    For some reason I associate a closed lid with a clogged toilet, and am always apprehensive about what I’ll find underneath when I see that the lid is down.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:27 am   rating: 31  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   Canthz_B bang

      Closed lid = out of order?

      I’m that way about bathroom doors. A closed door to me means that someone is using the bathroom.
      I was at a party once and waited to pee for nearly half an hour before finally knocking on the door only to find that there was no one in there!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:34 am   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.2   Angela

      Same way here, I assume the same thing: if the lid is down, something nasty is in there, or there will be if it’s used.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:03 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.3   Timo

      I lived somewhere that the national norm it seemed was to keep the bathroom door shut. There was a principle that said to also have the lid on the toilet and the sink stoppers down or your luck and money will go down the drain.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:26 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.4   Kev Orng

      Is National Norm related to Social Norm?

      Or is it Social Norm acting on a federal level?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:45 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.5   Mark bang

      Timo, that is common in Asian cultures. It’s a feng shui thing. Toilet seat open = all luck and money go down the drain.

      Of course, that’s all bullshit, but hey, it’s culture.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:33 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.6   Timo

      National Norm Is Social Norms GS brother but he is still unbearable.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:00 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.7   Claire

      Mark…you are the first Yank I ever met who spelled feng shui correctly! Sigh…I think my heart is pattering…are you taken???

      There was once a sign above the toilets in a Chinese food restuarant’s restrooms which read: “If you sprinkle when you tinkle/Be a sweetie and wipe the seatie”

      What this had to do with feng shui and a Chinese food restuarant, I don’t know…the restaurant was located in East Texas, though, which may explain a lot…

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:58 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.8   Mishee bang

      *ahem*

      Mark has been spoken for…

      Wait your turn patiently like a good girl.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 3:01 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.9   Canthz_B bang

      *wonders if Claire randomly stops “Yanks” and asks them to spell feng shui* :-|

      Jul 19, 2008 at 3:25 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.10   Timo

      CB I read your comment in a different context than perhaps the one you meant.

      Ah yes the ol’ Yank and Spell game!

      Yank and Spell, From Hasbro!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 3:38 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.11   Canthz_B bang

      It was just such a silly and insulting thing for Claire to say.
      I’m sure every man-on-the-street in Liverpool can spell Arkansas just from the way it’s pronounced.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 3:48 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.12   amazon bang

      20.10: Are these the same people who made the Sit ‘n Spin?

      Jul 19, 2008 at 3:57 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.13   Timo

      No no…exactly, your observation is echoed here too.
      Well maybe not Liverpool but Manchester for sure.

      Tone is sooo hard to put across.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 3:58 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.14   Canthz_B bang

      Or even in East Texas for that matter! LOL

      Jul 19, 2008 at 3:59 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.15   Timo

      I think in East Texas they deny the existence of Arkansas.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 4:09 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.16   Timo

      20.12 – I believe they are and the nearly identical item the Shit and Spin. Which BTW really makes a mess.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 4:11 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.17   Mishee bang

      Timo – isn’t that what this whole thread is about – seeing the toilet water spin as shit goes everywhere?

      Jul 19, 2008 at 6:51 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.18   Canthz_B bang

      How long before the defecation hits the rotary oscillator?

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:03 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.19   Timo

      Mishee- Oh yes it is. Flush and Duck!
      CB- I guess a ceiling fan in the bathroom would also be a bad idea!

      Jul 20, 2008 at 4:36 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.20   Canthz_B bang

      Talk about reaping the whirlwind! LOL

      Jul 20, 2008 at 4:45 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.21   Claire

      LOL! Fair enough! No, most Yanks I have met are quite good at spelling and many other things…I just have never had the pleasure to meet one until now who could spell feng shui…now I have met an entire batch of them…

      Please do not make me stand near a flushing toilet to test the germ mist theory as punishment…

      Makes you wonder though what the hidden meaning of the song “Skip to My Loo” means….

      Jul 21, 2008 at 12:24 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.22   Canthz_B bang

      How, exactly, could you possibly know that? Does the topic of the proper spelling of feng shui come up each time you meet a “Yank” (must you use “Yank”)?

      Jul 21, 2008 at 12:43 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.23   Claire

      No, Canthz B, but there was a series of articles once when I lived in Dallas from one of the local neighborhood papers which extolled the idea of applying the art of interior design to your work space using the Chinese art of fung schway (sic) continously throughout the article. I was a young, impressionable newly immigrated Brit at the time…and did not learn the difference until years later…

      I apologize to all and anyone if I have caused offense…it was not my intention…and no, I do not attempt to engage Americans or anyone else in spelling contests. After growing up in the UK and living in America (you spell blond…we spell blonde…color, colour…gray,grey…I cannot spell worth a dam…damm…damn…) but if you would be comforted by an international spelling bee, then I will buy you a beer and we’ll sit down in some cozy pub and you can count my misspellings…forgive?

      Jul 21, 2008 at 1:01 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.24   Kev Orng

      Don’t feel bad, Claire, it’s just that Americans don’t always like being called yanks. I guess it would be like me calling you a limey. Not exactly rude, but not really neighbourly, either.
      I could be wrong about this.

      You know what I hate? “Rediculous.” I don’t give a damn how you spell feng shui, at least spell words in your own language right.

      Jul 21, 2008 at 3:17 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #21   Zoe

    Bear in mind that when you flush the toilet without the lid down, tiny bits of shit and/or piss fly up and out of the toilet, and onto you. It’s best for everyone if you put the lid down before you flush, thereby avoiding any seat up/down arguments (as everyone has to lift something up and put it back down) AND avoid having shit and/or piss sprayed all over you and everything else in the room every time you go to the toilet. Win-win solution.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:01 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #21.1   Canthz_B bang

      You must not have a low-flow toilet.

      Do they make toilets now with lids that form a hermetic seal when closed?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:42 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #22   Candice

    My last apartment had a very tiny bathroom, and the only flat surface was a shallow shelf that continued across the entire wall — including over the toilet. I insisted that the lid be down just because otherwise thing on the shelf were easily knocked into the bowl. Otherwise, who cares. As a female with mostly male friends, I’m usually in the minority as far as seat/lid up/down goes. I accept it. Really… is it that big of a deal?

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:23 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #23   Candice

    BTW, to everyone concerned that there’s poo spraying onto your toothbrush if you don’t close the lid… Guess what!? E coli is EVERYWHERE. Closing the toilet lid will NOT SAVE YOU. You’re probably just coating your hands with it by touching the lid to begin with…

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:25 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #23.1   Canthz_B bang

      Team plastic toothbrush case.

      Do you have any idea how many teeny-tiny, barely visible to the naked eye bugs are walking around (and across) your toothbrush all day?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:46 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.2   Adam

      What kind of toilets must these people be using that sprays feces and urine across the entire room?
      The new Kohler Hurricane Katrina Krapper!

      Go Team Plastic toothbrush case!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:37 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.3   Mishee bang

      Adam, yes, it’s Kohler, but is brought to you by the parent company KrustyLu.

      (and that’s Hurrikane Katrina Krapper) LOL

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:45 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.4   Em Tee

      Check. Another item on the list in favor of a full-on body condom.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:52 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.5   Mishee bang

      Em, just as long as you don’t flush that condom! (source: google)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:09 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #24   Marie

    Those teeny-tiny, barely visible to the naked eye bugs are freaking delicious.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:51 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

     
  • #25   cha0s

    Sometimes I do it just fo damage control, if you catch my drift (hopefully you won’t in that case!)

    Jul 18, 2008 at 3:10 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #26   BellyBionic

    The lid goes down at my house so the blindingly stupid cat doesn’t fall in when he gets the zoomies.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 3:26 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #26.1   Moonsilver bang

      OMG you said “zoomies”! Hysterical.

      My cat gets the “zoomies” right after using her poo box. I wonder now if it’s because there is no lid to open or close?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 5:15 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #27   Scaryduck

    Look, men use the toilet more than women (who, I suspect, have some sort of cork arrangement going on). This is backed up by FACTS which I have just made up.

    Therefore, statistics dictate that it is the women who should leave the seat up for men and not vice-versa.

    Just sayin’.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 3:35 am   rating: 18  small thumbs up

    • #27.1   Lauraebk

      Ahh, but do the math all the way!
      Women pee about 2x more often then men (at least)… and have the seat down 100percent of the time. Men do pee with the seat UP, but- say 30 percent of the toilet visits for men involve the seat DOWN (sorry for the shouting). soo.. frankly the seat should be down. I dont give a flip about the lid.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:03 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #28   Neil

    For a guy it is a “social norm” to leave the lid up.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 3:44 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #29   jess

    If my toilet lid was left down by some malicious spaz, I probably would sit on it blindly at 3 in the morning and pee all over my self.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 4:10 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   unholyghost2003 bang

      I ummm have DAMN NEAR done that. Just an FYI, a hard plastic lid down on a sub-zero February night is just as unpleasant as seat up. (Jess, you will be happy to know that the shocking cold on your neither regions is enough to stop you from pissing on the floor or yourself.)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:16 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.2   Bunnee

      My husband HAS actually done that, but it was, um, another function other than pee, if you get my meaning. He had to take the toilet seat apart to get it clean. I’m so glad I wasn’t there…..

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:03 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.3   RunBarbara bang

      bunnee, are you afraid to say the white pee? its okay. youre among friends.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:05 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.4   booge

      I thought she meant puking. I don’t know which would smell nastier in a week.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:00 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.5   snee

      and i thought she meant pooping. y’know, like a bad guacamole poop-fest.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 5:24 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #30   Sydney

    Better safe than sorry with the lid. If the lid is up, then there’s even odds I will knock something — probably a toothbrush, plant, or cat — off a shelf and right into the toilet water. We use those bleach tabs in the toilet tank and I’m not keen on finding out how expensive it is to treat a cat that’s been dunked in bleach.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 4:12 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #31   Mark

    http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1839

    Jul 18, 2008 at 4:50 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #32   Kha

    It isn’t a social norm, but it certainly should be. No one wants to see what your roommate ate for dinner last night floating in front of you to see.

    Either way, nothing to write a passive aggressive note about.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 5:38 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #32.1   schrodingersduck bang

      But to use the toilet, you’d have to open the lid and see inside the loo anyway. If your roommate doesn’t flush, then I think leaving the lid up is the least of your concerns.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 7:15 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.2   Canthz_B bang

      A toilet is not a fire and forget weapon.
      Check it after it finishes to make sure the job is done.
      That is the social norm whether you leave the lid open or closed.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:31 am   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.3   shane

      ….. fire and forget weapon….. :-D :-D :-D :-D

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:58 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.4   snee

      well, if the lid is closed, then the floater is both there and not there until the lid is actually opened, right? schrodinger’s poop.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 5:27 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #33   Rain

    I leave the toilet lid up at home. I leave the toilet lid down when I’m working at my daycare. I don’t think any of he kids will drown in it, but the toddlers delight in seeing what they can flush down the toilet if an older child mistakenly leaves the door open. Goodbye wallet! Goodbye house keys! Hello clogged mess, soaked floor, and children who all of a sudden need to all pee Right Now.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 6:01 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

     
  • #34   MSchmahl

    Given the fact that there are so many reasons to be in the bathroom other than using the toilet, I prefer the lid to be down. I have heard people argue about the seat-up/seat-down issue, but I have always felt that the existence of the lid makes the whole argument moot.

    I agree with previous posters regarding seeing what roommates have left behind. Occasionally, the flush doesn’t work all the way, and the bowl is not left with pristine, drinking-quality water.

    Not that I would write a note about this. I don’t like confrontation, but I would be willing to ask the ‘offender’ personally to leave the contents of the bowl out-of-sight.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 6:29 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #35   grumpygranolagirl

    My cat almost drowned while he was playing in the toilet. His front paws got stuck in the toilet, his back legs were on the seat and the water was up to his chin. Poor thing decided to do this at 3:00 a.m. and he howled for hours before I woke-up and rescued him. His legs were starting to give-out when I got him and if I hadn’t finally woke-up, we would’ve had a tragedy on our hands.

    Since then, we are strict with the “lid-down” rule. We also bought a “dental organizer” to keep the toothbrushes covered because of the germ thing.

    We watch ‘Monk’ so we can pick-up OCD lifestyle tips. (We’re not that bad, really. The cat’s near-drowning incident was pretty awful and so the lid-down thing is probably our biggest rule.)

    Jul 18, 2008 at 7:14 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #35.1   nic

      How do you know he howled for hours unless you listened without getting your lazy ass up to help. Bitch.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:03 am   rating: 30  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.2   grumpygranolagirl

      Because my roomie came in at 3:00 a.m. and the cat was howling for help. I should have clarified that I fear he had been stuck in there for hours. Can’t prove it that was the case, but probably so. I’m not suggesting it was a proud night in the grumpygranola household.

      Yeah, I felt like a bitch for sleeping at night. Truly.

      I’m not sure if “bitch” is the right insult here. It’s not like I wanted my cat to get stuck in the toilet. But you’re correct, there was a flaw in the telling of the story in that I was sleeping and cannot say for certain how long the cat was stuck. Maybe “bad storyteller” would be a better insult.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:31 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.3   nic

      Lighten up Grumpy and take it in jest. Most comments here are snarky and meant all in fun.
      I thought it was funny, but I’m an asshole.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 8:33 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.4   grumpygranolagirl

      I feel the love. It’s all good.

      But your comment did point out that my poor story-telling made me sound like a bitch. Just wanted to make sure folks don’t start calling PETA on me!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 8:43 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.5   snee

      too late! pam anderson just called you a whore on t.v.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 5:41 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #36   TygerAKC bang

    I’m a clutz. My 7 yr old daughter is a clutz. needless to say, anything dropped in the restroom seems to fall in the toilet. (it’s the butter side down of the restroom.) Seat down!
    On a different note…the guys at mythbusters did a thing on the germs from the toilet…I believe they busted that myth.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 7:52 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #36.1   Adam

      The mythbusters found that all of the toothbrushes had bacteria colonies equally.
      They are everywhere! E. Coli, fecal coliforms OH MY!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:43 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #36.2   amazon bang

      Mythbusters also found out that there is no statistical evidence that toast falls butter-side down.

      Is there anything that show can’t do??

      Jul 20, 2008 at 6:27 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #37   booge

    You should be disgusted every time you use the toilet whether or not the lid’s down. Use Purel and wear a goddamn mask. You should also be disgusted by filthy, filthy money–how many of those dollar bills have been in somebody’s nose for cocaine purposes? And you can get scabies from trying on clothes at Nordstrom! I don’t know if you’re careful enough, really. Google “intestinal parasites” today. And make sure your hepatitis shot is current. It’s clear your roommate is not on your side. What, with his rocket poo flakes. It’s like diarrhea Christmas in here.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 8:07 am   rating: 45  small thumbs up

    • #37.1   Kev Orng

      I thought only hundred dollar bills were used for cocaine, and, as such, I haven’t had much cause to worry about the bills in my pocket.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:06 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.2   Mishee bang

      That’s the only denomination I use Kev.

      It’s nose bling.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:16 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.3   Kev Orng

      And before yesterday I never thought I had to worry about Canadian money either. But obviously the lead singer of the Barenaked Ladies has been corrupted by YOU guys with your house music and your Van Halen, and now all our Twenties are suspect too. (Canadian rock stars don’t have hundred dollar bills either.)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:28 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.4   Timo

      WHAT! You mean to tell me Brian Adams does not have a hundred for his Colombian Marching Powder!?
      *blink blink*

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:11 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.5   Mishee bang

      Timo – I believe the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions! No need to bring him into the discussion now!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:18 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.6   Kev Orng

      And we’ll apologize for Celine Dion as well, just as soon as you return Jim Carrey and Wil Shatner unharmed. Oh yeah, and that kid you have locked up in Gitmo.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:22 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.7   Mishee bang

      You can have those guys back, but only if you take Pam Anderson, Tom Green, and batshit crazy Margot Kidder back with them!

      But don’t even THINK about asking for Michael J. Fox, Tommy Chong, or Brendan Fraser! That’s just absurd!! They belong here with us!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:33 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.8   Kev Orng

      Nooo, I think we’re going to let Margot Kidder stay Right. Where. She. Is.

      And that freak Alex Trebek as well.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:48 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.9   Mishee bang

      Fine. I will relent to Margot Kidder staying (we can just throw her in a padded room to keep her “fresh”), but in return you must take Jill Hennessey AND get Cirque de Soleil the fuck out of here….

      Alex can stay (for anglophile’s personal purposes) BUT for that concession I am making, you must agree to take back Seth Rogen (just to separate him from Judd Apatow) and do something about Degrassi being shown on American T.V.

      These are my terms.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:57 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.10   Timo

      I love love love you guys!

      But please can we keep the Shat? A, uhm, friend who has a star trek uniform in his closet would be sad without the Shat.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 3:29 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.11   snee

      no problem keeping the shat. just shut the lid.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 5:35 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.12   Mishee bang

      Timo – he has done his time now!

      We have our Star Trek reruns, our Miss Congeniality (I love him in that flick!) and Priceline.com…

      We have no use for him anymore!!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 5:59 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.13   Timo

      *Sigh* Okay you’re right of course and you didn’t even bring up the aptly named TJ Hooker series.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 7:44 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.14   TuesdayPillow

      What? Nobody wants Alan Thicke?! This is an outrage!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:05 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.15   Timo

      Alan Thicke was traded to France for that “Amélie” girl (Audrey Tautou) and an actor to be named later.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:13 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.16   Mishee bang

      Timo – that wasn’t Alan Thicke, I believe it was Molly Ringwald (check it out!) and also it was part of the exchange that gave the French people back Gérard Depardieu…

      I was totally for that one!! Once they start to take up their own zip code, ship them back to where they came from! Our [America's] job is done when that happens.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:45 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.17   Timo

      Oh *sigh* Molly Ringwald. I did get that all wrong, thanks Mishee. I was thinking that Molly was in that Shakira or Penelope Cruz exchange debacle.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 3:09 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.18   Timo

      And what about Corey Haim? Surely there are reparations for him.

      Sorry I went off-kilter with south american trades

      Jul 19, 2008 at 3:27 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.19   amazon bang

      If you guys don’t take Celine Dion and Pamela Anderson back right this instance (sorry, apologies just aren’t enough), we’ll send Paris Hilton and Britney Spears straight up there!

      Jul 20, 2008 at 6:32 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #38   nic

    Marcus, your housemate is a whiny bitch. I hope she finds this information helpful.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 8:24 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

     
  • #39   Canthz_B bang

    I’m almost 47 years old and have rarely been more than mildly ill and only with our common communicable diseases (cold, flu and the like).
    I think I’ll continue to trust my immune system, and not stress over common germs that I am exposed to each day inside of and outside of my bathroom.

    I’m a lid up guy for the most part and am amazed at how many have expressed concern over dropping things into the toilet. I haven’t dropped anything in mine other than what I intended to drop there in literally years!

    Jul 18, 2008 at 8:24 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #39.1   Mishee bang

      You realize CB, that now you have said it, you will drop your razor or possibly your toothbrush in the toilet within the week? :D

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:53 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.2   Canthz_B bang

      Not possible, Mishee.
      My razor is plugged in inside of my medicine cabinet and my sink is a good four feet away from the toilet.
      Unless I change habits and begin to brush my teeth in the bowl I should be OK. :-)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:06 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.3   Mishee bang

      Well, you do have moments where you are quite the potty mouth, now don’t you SLJ? :D

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:17 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.4   emily

      Well there you go Canthz! If I were to locate anything 4′ from the toilet, it’d be out of the bathroom completely. The whole damn room, including tub, is only 5′ by 6′ with a 24″ wide vanity. It’s impossible to place anything in my bathroom such that, if bumped, it won’t fall straight into the toilet bowl. And besides the dropping issue, there is roughly 2″ of counter space around the sink, therefore nowhere but the toilet lid to place clothes during a shower.

      We are a lid-down house, out of complete necessity. Were I to have a house-sized bathroom you bet I’d leave the lid up all day.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 3:36 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.5   Canthz_B bang

      Where did I say never put the lid down?
      The lid is a great place for clothes during a shower! So are the towel bars for clothes on hangars.
      It’s not a matter of not putting things on top of the toilet tank either. It’s a matter of choosing what you put there. Taller items with smaller bases tend to tip over more than short items with wider bases.
      If the toilet is next to the sink, don’t store items on the toilet side of the sink. put them on the other side so if you knock them over they go to the floor (trash can?) not the toilet.
      M bathroom is not large, just well designed with the sink at the opposite end of the room from the toilet.
      Sorry, but to me it’s common sense. I lived in a small studio apartment once upon a time and didn’t have a problem keeping my things from falling.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 5:37 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.6   Canthz_B bang

      “Hangers”, unless you’re wearing aircraft! :-D

      Jul 19, 2008 at 5:44 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #40   Leslie

    I have also heard that flushing with the lid up can spray germs in the area up to 20′. I cringe when I have to use a public toilet and there is no lid to close. My husband knows it makes me happy to have the lid closed and it is a small thing he can do to make me happy. (no, I have never nagged him about it, he is just sweet like that)

    Jul 18, 2008 at 8:26 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #40.1   Canthz_B bang

      How many more times will this be on this thread?

      RESOLVED: TOILETS RELEASE A GERM CONTAINING “MIST” WHEN FLUSHED!!

      Do we need to add that again?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:35 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #40.2   Michelle

      Why yes….. Yes we do.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:19 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #40.3   Mishee bang

      Well CB, I’m not sure if you are aware of this, but I read an article about germs, and they said that when you flush, there is this mist of toilet water that goes all over, and can even get on your TOOTHBRUSH! OMG! Can you believe it?! Eww!

      Also, ladies, keep your purses off the kitchen counter! Yuck!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:22 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #40.4   Canthz_B bang

      In the Southern Hemisphere a germ-filled mist of water causes toilets to flush.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:33 am   rating: 21  small thumbs up

       
    • #40.5   Timo

      ” Out of the water sprung forth germ filled toilets. Arthur chose from among them excalibur the Royal Loo.”

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:47 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #40.6   Timo

      “Toilets in the Mist”
      The Dian Poosey story.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:49 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #40.7   shane

      “Toiletspray” the hit Broadway Musical

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:03 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #40.8   Canthz_B bang

      Excalibur does sound like a line of bathroom fixtures, doesn’t it!

      And here is our fabulous ‘Excalibur Collection’, for the well appointed loo.”

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:17 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #40.9   Timo

      Back for a limited run off off off off off Broadway,
      “Le Piz!”

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:31 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #41   nic

    I purposely leave the lid up for my cat. Hey, I leave her fresh water but all she will drink is toilet water and puddles. Snob.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 8:27 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #41.1   grumpygranolagirl

      Wow… you purposefully leave your toilet lid up so your cat can possibly drown? Bitch.

      I don’t really think you’re a bitch because I don’t know you and don’t care. I just couldn’t resist the opportunity. :)

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:39 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #41.2   nic

      Now you got the hang of it. Don’t worry, I won’t catch feelings like you. I am a bitch :)

      Jul 19, 2008 at 8:39 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #42   claw71 bang

    I have to call asshole on the person who wrote this note. There are so many genuine toilet fouls out there. The list of nonflushing violations is so long that harping on the position of the lid, which happens to be an optional toilet component in the first place, is trifling and rude.

    In my opinion the worst offense is the unflushed overload. Kids are notorious for using a half a roll of double-ply toilet paper and then they won’t flush which leaves the next person stuck with not only having to execute a pre-potty flush but then they have to rummage around for a plunger to shove the load down. Fortunately the poo to paper ratio in this instance minimizes fecal confrontation. That’s not the case when somebody has the beer shits and forgets to flush.

    One of the most annoying offenses is the mellow yellow violation. I dig conserving water but it’s disheartening to walk into the restroom and find straw-colored water welcoming you. That leaves you with two options: defecate and risk splashing, which is going to happen because you end up trying to ease the turds into the water; or you flush the toilet and end up trying to flush your own deposit with inadequate pressure.

    The only good reason to put the lid down is to minimize the risk of toilet casualties in a cluttered restroom. Since this is an apartment I can only imagine that the bathroom gets pretty cramped and I wouldn’t be surprised if the person who wrote this note had to fish a can of Barbasol out of the toilet after bumping it with his elbow. If that’s the case I would advise the note writer to consider a brief hazard assessment before he starts his morning routine. It’s not difficult to close the lid.

    I have to call asshole on the person who wrote this note. There are too many genuine toilet fouls out there. The list of nonflushing violations is so long that harping on the position of the lid, which happens to be an optional toilet component in the first place, is trifling and rude.

    In my opinion the worst offense is the unflushed overload. Kids are notorious for using a half a roll of double-ply toilet paper and then they won’t flush which leaves the next person stuck with not only having to execute a pre-potty flush but then they have to rummage around for a plunger to shove the load down. Fortunately the poo to paper ratio in this instance minimizes fecal confrontation. That’s not the case when somebody has the beer shits and forgets to flush. I’ve never been able to figure out what to do with a plunger that’s been used like a potato masher. My normal routine of placing it on the head of whoever left soldiers behind seems to irritate people.

    One of the most annoying offenses is the mellow yellow violation. I dig conserving water but it’s disheartening to walk into the restroom and find straw-colored water welcoming you. That leaves you with two options: defecate and risk splashing, which is going to happen because you end up trying to ease the turds into the water (I swear that water gets way up there too); or you start fresh and end up trying to flush your own deposit with inadequate pressure.

    The only good reason to put the lid down is to minimize the risk of toilet casualties in a cluttered restroom. Since this is an apartment I can only imagine that the bathroom gets pretty cramped and I wouldn’t be surprised if the person who wrote this note had to fish a can of Barbasol out of the toilet after bumping it with his elbow. If that’s the case I would advise the note writer to consider a brief hazard assessment before he starts his morning routine. It’s not difficult to close the lid.

    Another valid point I’ve heard discussed is the skid mark factor. Nobody wants to walk into a bathroom and be confronted with the remnants of the turd that wouldn’t quit but putting the lid down only delays the inevitable. It’s like some sick jack-in-the-box waiting to give you a morning case of the willies.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 8:29 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #42.1   Mishee bang

      Am I experiencing deja vu?

      Am I experiencing deja vu?

      (you know I love you!)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:51 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #42.2   Bunnee

      I think you have covered ALL of the toilet fouls! Unless leaving an empty tube from the toilet paper on the spinner is considered a foul, too. My husband has written me P/A notes on the empty tube! (well, he just does it to be funny, but still!)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:35 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #43   Kate

    Yup. Can’t let the cats drink from it!

    Jul 18, 2008 at 8:35 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #44   Leslie

    Canthz_B, you have written a lot on here. May a sister put in her 2 cents just once?

    Jul 18, 2008 at 8:48 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #44.1   Canthz_B bang

      Try to use new pennies. ;-)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:58 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #44.2   Leslie

      Well, aren’t you cute? I will apologize then for making you read my redundant comment.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:09 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #44.3   Canthz_B bang

      No apology necessary. Nothing here is as serious as it may sometimes seem. It’s hard to put tone of voice in print! :-D

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:15 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #45   Kev Orng

    Lid position would be less of an issue if the toilet was regularly cleaned. But I’m not going to retype that whole story about my ex-housemate and his shitsicles.

    Anyways, in spite of my previous comments, I used to be unconcerned about seat and lid position, but now, like so many others posting here, I have a cat. On top of that, I spend too much time cleaning the house as it is, I’ve come to appreciate a closed toilet.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 8:50 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #45.1   Mishee bang

      ahhh the shitsicles I had almost forgotten that story. Thank you for the reminder Kev!!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:19 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #45.2   Kev Orng

      My pleasure; everybody should be able to savour the mental image of a year-long accumulation of shitsicles.

      If only I had a picture of the shitsicles, it would make a fine bathroom ad to encourage lid-closing.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:52 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #45.3   Bunnee

      Where is the original story? I want to see!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:36 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #45.4   Mishee bang

      I think it was on the thread about the dude who used a roll of TP every day…Dave I believe.

      Cause I did the “Dave’s not here” joke.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:46 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #45.5   Kev Orng

      Here you go!
      The shitsicle story

      Plus some additional details

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:06 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #46   Kate

    I HATE when people put the lid DOWN. It’s an extra step; that’s just wasteful!

    Also, I have a cat that drinks from the toilet, so as long as the seat is up, I don’t worry that he lacks for water. Also, he’s less inclined to shred the toilet paper if he’s distracted by a shiny bowl of water.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 8:56 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #47   Melanie

    I put the lid down (as a woman) because it reinforces my demand that the seat be down.

    As long as I put the lid back down every time, I can look at ‘him’ and say, “I lift and lower the lid every time. You can lift and lower the seat and lid. Every time. Such a big strong man as you couldn’t _possibly_ ::bats eyelashes:: notice such a little bit of extra weight!”

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:00 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #47.1   shane

      Wow. Do you keep his balls in a jar at night too?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:14 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #47.2   Mishee bang

      she probably stores them in her mouth… you know… for safekeeping.

      hence the reason he does whatever she wants him to do.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:19 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #47.3   se

      maybe by big strong man, she means that he trained his python to lift the lid.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:02 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #47.4   Timo

      If she kept my balls in her mouth I would wash the seat up after each use and do my business in the neighbors pool out of appreciation.
      Just saying.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:29 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #47.5   Joyful

      Boo.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:05 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #47.6   Canthz_B bang

      #47…If he lifts the seat and lid “every time”, won’t he fall in when he takes a crap?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 3:24 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #48   Amy

    Lid down at my house – kids & pets + open toilet = yuck!

    Amy @ http://prettybabies.blogspot.com

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:07 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #49   Toby

    My lid is always down. Our medicine cabinet is positioned directly above the toilet – I don’t want any of that stuff to fall in the bowl!

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:07 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #49.1   Bunnee

      I’ve had this happen, too. Medicine is expensive to replace!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:38 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #50   Uh Huh

    If leaving the lid up is Marcus’ worst offense, this note writer should hang onto him as a roommate for dear life.

    I didn’t start closing the lid regularly until I got a small, mentally affected kitten. When he was big enough that the toilet no longer posed a drowning threat, I started leaving the lid up again. He immediately started using it as a super fun time kitten splashing pool. The lid went back down.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:08 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #50.1   Mishee bang

      Super Fun Time Kitten Splashing Pool?

      Sounds like a Japanese product.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:12 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #51   Mishee bang

    I am so glad that I am not the only one with Kitty issues… the lid stays down cause I don’t want to have kitty fall in… not cause I care about Kitty getting wet, but usually after she falls in, she decides to come over and sit in my lap (presumably because she is pissed that the big white thing got her wet). But she still loves to sit on the tank and watch me take a shower. It’s kind of creepy.

    WTF is with cats and the bathroom? I just thought mine had an unhealthy obssession with the only room in the house I don’t want her in!

    Oh, and my husband puts the lid down, or he gets the riding crop!

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:11 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #51.1   Kimberly

      I have the same problem. I have had to ask people to put the lid down and explain that it is because my cat has taken accidental swims before. I wouldn’t write a PA note though! My cat is OBSESSED with the bathroom too. Right now there are at LEAST 8 cat toys in there. If I put them away they will be back by morning.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:20 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.2   unholyghost2003 bang

      Mish, so leaving the lid up is how he signals he wants some “play time?”

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:25 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.3   Timo

      Super Happy Fun Spanky Play Time!

      Yay!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:31 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.4   Mishee bang

      you know it ghostie! And don’t think you don’t have the same signal. If you leave the lid up, you get the ball gag! :D

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:36 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.5   Timo

      Mr. Bigglesworth sleeps in the shower/bath when it is not in use. I have no idea why.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:26 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.6   amazon bang

      My cat loves the shower (when not in use) as well. But the second the water gets turned on, *zoom* he’s in the furthest corner from the bathroom.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:47 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.7   Moonsilver bang

      Ok, I have to chime in on the cat thing. Mine has no interest in the toilet other than she gets a captive human audience to pet her if we allow her in while using it. But she does do some weird stuff with the shower. She likes to watch my husband while he showers. She will even lean in and give him a kiss while the water is on, but here’s the weird part; once he’s done, she drinks the husband-flavored water after his shower every morning! She will not do this after anyone else in the house showers, just husband-flavored water.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 3:50 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.8   Mishee bang

      My Big Crack Kitty does almost the same thing… She licks Mr. Mishee’s leg while he is toweling off his upper body… it’s only Mr. Mishee flavor is what she wants… she will watch me in the shower, but only to investigate the stall when I get out. She also waits until he is dry and then reapplies her scent on him as needed.

      As for visiting while we are using the toilet, if we happen to close the door all the way (so it latches) then she will scratch the shit out of the door until it is opened, just so she can come in and assess the situation and maybe get a petting in if she is in the mood.

      She’s very spoiled & possessive.

      We wub her.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 4:08 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.9   se

      I just had to…
      I can no longer resist..
      mishees kitty was fucking delicious

      Jul 18, 2008 at 6:19 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.10   Timo

      It is true 4 out of 5 cats agree men make the best broth…

      Jul 18, 2008 at 7:41 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.11   Quite Contrary

      Mr. Max has your cats beat! On housecleaning day, he stands by me while I am cleaning the tub. Only after the tub has been cleaned with Ajax, rinsed, wiped down and dried, will he jump into the tub and flop all over it to ensure it meets his cleaning standards. He then leaves the tub and bathroom to resume his nap while I wipe away all the paw marks on the formerly sparkling clean tub. Occasionally he will stay in the bathroom to paw and shred some toilet paper, but usually the tub examination wipes him out.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:08 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.12   Canthz_B bang

      Se (#51.9) ate Mishee’s pussy? 8-O

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:50 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #52   Michelle

    I HATEHATEHATE it when people don’t close the lid after they use the restroom! It’s positively VILE! When you flush the toilet with the lid open, all of your germs fling out all over the bathroom and, quite frankly, I don’t know ANYONE in their right mind who wants to breathe that crap. I mean, would you want toilet germs on your toothbrush? I think not. There’s a lid on the toilet for a reason. Why the hell don’t people use it?

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:15 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #52.1   Joyful

      Blah blah blah…let’s stop all the germ panic, people. Have you heard of any “Poo Flush Spray” related deaths or illnesses recently?

      Why don’t you just buy a big plastic bubble and live in that?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:07 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #52.2   Jais

      But if you close the lid then the poo spray gets all over the inner lid.. and then you have to touch the lid again to get it open. Germs on your fingers are probably worse than germs in the air.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:40 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #52.3   Canthz_B bang

      Concentrated poo germs.
      Just add water and shake! :-)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:49 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #53   Annie R

    I don’t really have a problem with whether the seat is up or down as a matter of principle but I close the lid at my house because my dog slobbers water all over the seat when he drinks from the toilet. My toilet seat issue is the goddammned women who ‘hover’ in public restrooms and don’t clean up after they drip piss all over the seat.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:15 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #53.1   Just Say No to Hover

      Second! CLEAN UP YOUR HOVER PEE!!!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:26 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #53.2   Mishee bang

      I laugh at the chicks at work who use their foot to flush. I mean, you’re getting ready to wash your hands in a second (I hope!) so what’s the fucking problem? It’s not like its a pay toilet in the Tenderloin, its a fucking office in Palo Alto that is used by a bunch of fucking yuppies! Plus, those bathrooms are cleaned like, 5 times a day!

      The only thing I am afraid of catching at work is a nasty case of Misplaced Superiority. Is there a code for that CB?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:31 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #53.3   Canthz_B bang

      297.1 Delusional Disorder

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:00 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #53.4   Kev Orng

      I always thought foot flushing was reserved for those special bathrooms where washing your hands is likely to be worse for you than NOT washing your hands. The kind of bathroom where you step gingerly through the half-inch of “water” on the floor, relieve yourself whilst being careful not to pee on your hand, and then step gingerly back to the door to try to figure out how to open it without touching it.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:00 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #53.5   Canthz_B bang

      The Texaco station?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:19 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #54   Aww... Crapsticks

    You heathens are filthy.

    Shit in the sink like the rest of us.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:18 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #54.1   Mishee bang

      I prefer the freedom of the shower at the gym. It’s less confining than having a sink, which has limited space…

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:23 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #55   Canthz_B bang

    If Marcus had a cat or two maybe we could justify this note from Professor Henry Higgins! LOL

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:23 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #56   Crapsticks

    Not a bad idea Mishee. Might cover up the fetid stench of genitalia I get in my gym shower. Hhhmmm poo or nuts…? What would I prefer?

    It’s like trying to decide between Norsca fresh or Lavender Bloom car deodorants…

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:38 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #57   Marcus

    I was the submitter of the note, and must say, I’m very pleased with all your comments. Just to note, there are no pets that may drink from or fall into the toilet, and likewise, no children that may do the same. In reference to the aerosolised poo contaminated water on the toothbrushes argument, the toilet is not hermetically sealed when the seat is down, as I doubt any are, and such particles will escape between the rim/seat boundary by virtue of the fact that all seats are slightly raised off the rim by several little “feet” on the base of the seat. Likewise with the seat/lid boundary. This was debunked on Mythbusters, as they had toothbrushes kept in the bathroom with lid up and down, and kept elsewhere in the house. They found no noticeable variation in faecal coliforms present on toothbrush bristles whether near the toilet or not.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:46 am   rating: 18  small thumbs up

     
  • #58   Canthz_B bang

    I’m wondering something about toilet lids now.
    It seems to me that putting the lid down during a flush would increase the air pressure inside the bowl, the rising water displacing the air, thereby forcing the moist air to jet out the sides between the bowl, seat and lid.
    I would think this additional speed would send the germs even further than an open lid…much like a sneeze.

    Of course, I’m frequently very wrong! ;-)

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:47 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #58.1   Canthz_B bang

      Virtually the same as Marcus…thinking about the same thing at the same time I suppose! LOL

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:53 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #58.2   Timo

      Well CB I would agree with you but that is the ending of the flush.
      On initiation of the flush cycle the water in the bowl descends and thereby creates a negative pressure within the porcelain poo chamber. However this then leads to the refilling process as you pointed out. If there are hang fire or stubborn poo particles left over then these can add to the expectoration of sub optimal environmental bits.

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    • #58.3   Canthz_B bang

      Not in mine, pal.
      The water rises, circles, then descends.
      After that it refills.

      A flush is opening the valve to the tank which adds the tank water to the bowl water causing an initial rise in water level.

      At least with the model of toilet I have.

      BTW, I just confirmed that. Rise, circle, descend, refill.
      I didn’t waste water, I had to pee anyway! ;-)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:24 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #58.4   Timo

      LOL!
      I forgot to consider Process Variables. I must go observe mine closer now. The water must rise slightly before it recedes.
      More coffee, I have science to conduct!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:37 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #58.5   Mark bang

      The initial rise is pretty gentle though. The splashing and atomization occurs most when the water is splashing around at the bottom of the flush cycle.

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    • #58.6   Canthz_B bang

      In other words, after most of the nasties are long gone.
      I have a low-flow toilet and there is much less turmoil at the end of the flush than the older, bigger, stronger toilets. With low-flow you say a little prayer and hope all goes well on the first try! :-D

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  • #59   jamo

    Yar, close the lid ya mingers.

    It sprays!

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  • #60   Goldie

    I’d have to side with the note author. One time, my buddy Kyle forgot to close the lid and Mr. Hanky came out. Most of you know what ensued. Do we want to risk it happening again? DO WE?!

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:57 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #60.1   Mishee bang

      Christmas delight?

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  • #61   CremeBrulee

    Dear Helpful Roommate –
    This is a household custom, not a social norm you get to force on those around you. My ex-husband and I never closed the lid – never thought of it, because we weren’t brought up that way. And we had kids, cats, dogs, and toothbrushes. My current boyfriend closes it because his mom made him. And…I just think it looks nicer, so now I do it, too.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:58 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #62   Bubble

    I’m a self admitted germ-o-phobe so I put the lid down because you can have aerosolization of the bacteria in your poo-however, that’s just me. If my guests don’t adhere to my loon-iness, I don’t get all bent out of shape.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 10:05 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #63   Cowgirlgraphics

    I say leave the seat up …. I use the Lysol drop-in in the tank and enjoy the heavenly scent of bleach everytime it’s flushed. No worries about rats, ‘gators or snakes either when you have your very own septic system.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 10:17 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #63.1   Kev Orng

      worms maybe, but not snakes

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  • #64   kat

    i’ve accidentally dropped way too many things in the toilet to ever leave the lid up.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 10:28 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #65   Daniel

    It’s far more hygienic to put the lid down.

    Plus, it’s called a lid for a reason, and it’s there for a reason. A lid is something that you close when the object it covers isn’t in use.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 10:31 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #65.1   Kev Orng

      Not if it’s Tupperware.
      You close the lid when the Tupperware is in use. You store unused Tupperware sans-lid to minimize the cumulative olfactory effect of two years of nuked-in spaghetti sauce (a necessity in spite of the promises of Tupperware marketing).

      What do you think of your lid theory now, professor?

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    • #65.2   Joyful

      I wish we could do negative ratings.

      :)

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  • #66   Anna

    I’m a female, and I don’t even care if the seat is down. Being blessed with the magical gift of sight, I can assess lid/seat status before sitting, thus avoiding any unnecessary butt-to-rim contact. I think that seat lowering is a pretty trivial issue to harass male roommates with, as long as the toilet is clean. But maybe I just grew up with little brothers, so my tolerance is a bit higher.

    Asking for the lid to be lowered is absolutely ridiculous, unless it’s a definite hazard to pets, children, or belongings. Germs are tiny and fly everywhere. Get over it.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 10:33 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #66.1   Goldie

      I agree. My kids are capable of peeing on the CEILING and blaming it on “morning wood”. In light of this, what the heck do I care if the lid is up or down? The few lone germs that’ll pop out of the toilet when it’s flushed are going to be a drop in the bucket anyway.
      I, too, am one of those women who put the toilet seat up. This will guarantee the seat won’t be wet next time I use it.
      Then again, my 38-pound Sheltie would never fit inside the toilet, so I probably cannot sense the danger of an open lid as keenly as the small-pet owners.

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  • #67   Mishee bang

    I just think we should have a moment of silence for the hundreds of thousands fallen brothers and sisters across the globe who have succumbed to the horrific diseases, bacteria, and viruses associated with leaving the lid up and then flushing.

    Now if everyone would please remove their Mongolian BBQ hats and pray – then it is time for the 21 Flush Salute (and for the love of God, don’t forget to put down the lid!)

    Jul 18, 2008 at 10:39 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #67.1   Timo

      Is that bugler playing taps with his….. HE IS! Oh bravo!

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  • #68   unholyghost2003 bang

    At our house the lid went down because we had a small dog and padded seats (padded seats due to the bitter cold of WI winters). Doggy claws shred padded seats. Shredded seats cause shards of vinyl to stab a person in the butt when using the toilet. Being stabbed in the butt isn’t fun. That dog is now dead (old age, not a horrific toilet related drowning). Lid stays up.

    On a related note: Seat up vs seat down. I am a woman with not one but TWO fully functional arms with fully functional hands attached at the ends. I can put the seat down if it is left up. The late night ‘Lid Down’ incident I mentioned at 29.1 taught me that light and a quick look at the toilet before sitting is a good idea in any case, thus I don’t fall in. IMHO the seat up vs seat down issue is majority rule. The lone guy in a house of women seat goes down when you are done. If you are the lone chick in a house of guys seat goes up when you are done.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 10:44 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #68.1   Mishee bang

      funny, I was under the impression you liked being stabbed in the butt.

      My mistake. I won’t do it again then.

      Also: falling into the toilet when its the middle of the night, the seat is up, and you don’t look isn’t half as bad as having to go “real bad” and running in there fumbling to get your pants down, and ending up peeing all over the lid, which some “Socially Normal” person has put down once again! (I have a.. um… friend that happened to… yeah)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 10:53 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.2   Kev Orng

      Padded seats? I’m a little dumbfounded at this “padded seats due to cold winters” concept.

      I live in Canada (which I’m told by my American friends and family is colder than the northern US in spite of ample evidence to the contrary) and I’ve never, ever seen a toilet seat padded for warmth except in an outhouse.

      Now, what we do have are decorative plush seat covers which are the housewares equivalent of a passive aggressive note. When I see one of those frilly seats on a toilet, it says to me “I don’t trust you to put the seat down so I’m going to put this pretty plush thing on here which will ensure the seat falls the second you let go of it.”

      This, of course has several predictable results:
      1. Man’s aim is affected because he has to hold up the seat with one hand whilst peeing.
      2. Seat falls while man is peeing resulting in urine-soaked frilly seat cover.
      3. Seat falls with a loud bang every time, driving the whole household crazy.

      I usually respond to plush seat covers by removing them, even at relative’s houses. If they ask, (they never have) I would say that it was negatively affecting the user experience, so I removed it, your welcome.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:09 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.3   Timo

      Bath sets are the petri dish of the bathroom. They just scream “FILTH” to me. I have to admit ignorance to padded seats I have never seen them. It seems like a hard surface would be easier to keep clean though. If there are padded seats can you also get foot rests. You know for those really stressful poos

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:14 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.4   unholyghost2003 bang

      Where you live in Canada determines if it is colder than parts of the US. Canadian cities on the oceans are significantly warmer than land locked cities in the northern lower 48 or Alaska. I am not talking about those dumbass shag carpet things on the lids. Those are horrible and I too remove them because I don’t like getting smacked in the spine while I pee. I am talking about a padded seat. Because the padded seat has air pockets in it it doesn’t drop below room temperature, while the hard seats get to the same temp as the bowl and tank. If the toilet is against an exterior wall this temperature can be much MUCH less than the room temp. That does not make for a happy heiny. I’m telling you try the padded seat (not the stupid seat cover) Your butt will thank you this winter.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:21 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.5   karla

      me too mishee. The friend thing, that is.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:32 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.6   Kev Orng

      Ha ha, do I sound like someone from Vancouver? It must be the Birkenstocks, I KNEW this would happen. :)

      No, I’ve only lived in inland cities. Including Calgary, where my car once froze solid for a week, but even then, I could sit comfortably on the unmodified toilet seat and ponder the ineptitude of Calgary Transit’s route planners.

      But I’ll look around and give it a go. They’ll probably assume I need it for the outhouse at the cottage, and I’ll let them think that, so they don’t think I’m installing it in my house!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:56 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.7   booge

      I recently was at my crazy father Leon’s house and saw the nastiest thing EVER: not a padded seat, not a shag lid cover, but a shag rug seat cover. So now I get your ass sweat, pee drips, and possible fecal misses on my skin? I’m far from a germaphobe (hey, I’ve stuck a dollar bill up my nose), but that’s just disgusting. So much fucking surface area on there. I clean the seat when I clean the throne, but I know that old man doesn’t wash that shit. Really, that’s almost like sharing used drawers to me. So now I have to squat in my own flesh and blood’s house like I’m at the mall. I expect the crazy to end when I take refuge in the toilet. No, it leaks in there, just the same.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:06 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.8   Kev Orng

      Yup, shag seat cover, that’s what I was talking about above. Engineered to ensure the seat falls with a penis-recoiling BANG as soon as you take your hand off it.

      Gentlemen, anytime you’re holding up the seat while peeing, it’s time to fix the toilet. Step one: remove superfluous carpeting.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:21 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.9   Mishee bang

      I actually saw one of those when I went to the family reunion in Iowa. I thought the same thing… if it were my warped mind that put that on the seat, I would be throwing it in the wash every day!! But I don’t have a warped mind, so….

      My father-in-law’s house has the shag thing not just on the tank lid (which is rare, but I have seen) but also on the tank itself. It’s just a furry green toilet monster, and it’s kinda creepy.

      I had to take my toilet lid cover off because Crack Kitty loves to sleep on the (closed) toilet lid… and then it gets covered with cat hair and I can’t stand it! (Esp white cat on black lid cover)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:26 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.10   unholyghost2003 bang

      WOW. I have not seen the shag seat covers, just the lid covers. That is NASTY. No no no no no. A good padded seat is vinyl and can be wiped down with a sponge just like a hard seat.

      Mish, If i were you I would glue giant googly-eyes to the tank so it looks like the toilet is some sort of freakish Sesame Street character reject that stares at you while you are doing your business in its mouth. But I DO have a warped mind …

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:37 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.11   Kev Orng

      UnholyGhost, that’s a great idea. I’m going to propose the “Pee Wee’s Playhouse” theme for the loo as soon as I get home.

      I think it’s appropriate on muliple levels, don’t you?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:48 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.12   Mishee bang

      Anyone else here thinking of the toilet training scenes from Look Who’s Talking Too?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:04 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.13   Kev Orng

      Anyone going to admit to seeing Look Who’s Talking Too?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:09 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.14   Mishee bang

      Kev – I think I am starting to love you too.

      *takes her place at the head of the line that will inevitably form*

      I’m in charge now bitches! :D

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:13 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.15   Canthz_B bang

      Ahh, the Cupid-like qualities of toilet-talk! ♥

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:28 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #68.16   Mishee bang

      CB – It worked in pre-school, why not here? :)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 6:05 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #69   sab

    We have four big dogs. Dog drool on the toilet seat and bathroom floor has persuaded even the males in our household to keep the seat down.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 10:56 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #70   Amber Love

    Gross! I HATE it when the lid is down, because then you have to grasp the lid to lift it, which is way too close to the seat and I’m always afraid my fingers will scrape the “crotch” area of the seat. Or, as an alternative, you can use your shoe to kick the lid up, but that is not always fun especially when you REALLY have to go. Ergo, I am perfectly happy to have the lid up, unless, of course, there are dogs or kids that like to play in the bowl.
    If someone left me a note like that, I would probably remove the lid altogether and they would find it curbside for trash pickup!

    Jul 18, 2008 at 10:58 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #70.1   Joyful

      Hear! Hear!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:19 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #70.2   Jais

      You can waste toilet paper and use that as a buffer between your fingers and the lid/seat. That’s what I do in public toilets. I hate touching the toilet too… lids up all the way

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:32 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #71   Grade Ape

    Personally I close the lid… but I also live with a woman and have felt the sting of her riding crop (and yes, it’s often purposely left up).

    We also have cats. If they go in, they’re big enough to scramble out, the toilet bowl gets a little extra scrubbing in those hard to reach places and I get a little extra amusement during my day.

    The only reason I’m a believer in the Lid Stays Down (LSD) denomination is because I’m NOT a morning person. Meaning that the Ape is groggy and clumsy and surly during the ante meridiem and ANYTHING on the counter is at high risk of being knocked into the poo water (exposing everyone to further surliness).

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:00 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #72   Liza

    I’m with whoever said that their immune systems could handle it. We’re way too freaking paranoid about germs.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:08 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #73   elizabeth

    I’m crazy about keeping the toilet lid closed–an open lid totally creeps me out. However, I know I’m crazy and when I personally asked my roommate to keep the lid closed, I made sure to tell him it was a quirk I had and not an issue of cleanliness.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:17 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #74   Lo

    We ALWAYS close the lid, at my house and growing up, for 2 reasons.
    1. Have you ever accidentally dropped or knocked something into the toilet? Good incentive to keep the lid closed.
    2. Flushing with the lid opens releases a lot more mist/spray into the air than if it’s closed.
    I kind of agree with the note taker. I hate seeing the lid up when I visit someone’s house. The lid is there for a reason, why not close it?

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:19 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #74.1   Sue Do Nim

      What? Flushing with the lid open mists the bathroom with germs? Impossible! Surely someone would have mentioned that before now.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 1:54 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #75   Any May

    So… has no one else noticed that this is a request (albeit passively constructed via knowledge of social norm blah blah) to close the lid after you have used it?

    Who uses the toilet LID when it’s up? And for what?

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:23 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #76   Chad InAustin

    The really, really good reason that I never close the lid is because I don’t like touching the lid. As a man, I usually use the toilet standing up anyway, and it is a stupid idea to require me to touch the lid every time I use the toilet. As for those women who “fall into the water” and blame their male companions for not putting the seat “back” down.. well, you don’t hear about men falling in! Perhaps everyone should just LOOK FIRST and we’d all be happy? =P

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:23 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #76.1   Kev Orng

      Men Falling In: See comment 19.3

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  • #77   Quite Contrary

    Leave the lid down and the seat up!

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:31 am   rating: 19  small thumbs up

    • #77.1   anglophile bang

      QC, I do not believe this comment is getting the kudos it deserves. Everyone should read it more carefully.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 5:32 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #77.2   Canthz_B bang

      I plussed it yesterday.
      It made me think about pretzels! :-)

      Jul 19, 2008 at 5:51 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #77.3   Quite Contrary

      Thank you! I feel obliged to come up with some sort of snarky retort, but there’s nothing snarky about my thank you!

      And now I have an odd craving for a salty snack…

      Jul 20, 2008 at 11:14 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #77.4   Claire

      I want to nominate you for the Nobel Prize of Bathroom Physics, Quite Contary! You are a truly gifted and talented genius! Bravo! Bravo!

      Jul 21, 2008 at 12:34 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #77.5   Quite Contrary bang

      My high school physics teacher will be so proud. Sr. Mary Ann Elizabeth Catherine always rolled her eyes whenever I turned in my physics homework because she knew, well she just knew how pathetic I was/am at science. She was truly afraid that I would amount to nothing. And now here I am…receiving the Nobel Prize…of Bathroom Physics…for a comment I left on a blog.

      *Sob*

      Jul 21, 2008 at 8:48 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #78   Eden

    When I moved in with my now-husband, he was crazy about putting down the lid. I was fine b/c that meant the seat was down as well. His theory was that if the lid is down, stuff can’t fall in. Plus it looks better. Doesn’t matter to me. I’d just like him to put a new roll of TP out when he uses the last of the old one.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:46 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #79   Sarah

    Unless you want everything in your bathroom covered in dirty toilet water spray, the lid should always go down before you flush. The mist of a flushed toilet travels amazingly far. That is reason enough to put the lid down, let alone the reasons about the look of it and stuff being more likely to fall in and what have you.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:52 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #79.1   Mishee bang

      Wow Sarah.. thank you for enlightening us! I don’t think anyone here had a clue!!

      BTW, you didn’t happen to read the 190 comments that have been posted already before you clicked “Submit”?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:58 am   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #79.2   unholyghost2003 bang

      Unless you want people repeating the same debunked ‘Toilet spray/Mist of evil’ post the note about how MYTHBUSTERS SHOWED THAT THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TYPE OR AMOUNT OF BACTERIA CULTIVATED ON TOOTHBRUSHES OR OTHER BATHROOM ITEMS WITH THE LID UP OR DOWN. THE SHIT MIST THING IS NOT TRUE should always be read before you post.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:06 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #79.3   Timo

      I am picturing these poor hapless people flushing their obviously faulty toilets and a bow wave of Shamu proportions comes spewing forth. hosing down everything within a killzone of 60 feet.

      “Hey I have something unique to say! Toilets are deadly devices that emit toxic sprays of germs and bacteria (redundancy is fun!) coating entire neighborhoods in their filth. Like mustard gas in World War I trenches you can’t stop it unless you close the magical gap toothed lid. I know this because I have a random memory of some misread totally unrelated report. Thank you”

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:21 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #79.4   Joyful

      Snore.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:21 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #80   Em Tee

    No, the information is not helpful…unless she wants to provide an itemized list of other social norms I’ll be sure to ignore on a later date.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:57 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #81   Clickums

    Guys usually don’t do that shit, but I still do because when you flush all those microbes are released into the air out of the toilet. Known fact.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:58 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #81.1   Kev Orng

      Actually, I didn’t know that. Not before I read the 65 comments above yours saying the exact same thing.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:06 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #81.2   Canthz_B bang

      And the several which debunk the whole “known fact”.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:49 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #82   Cennedi bang

    Poor Marcus, he must live with a Feng Shui nazi….

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:59 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #83   Rebecca

    It looks nicer when the lid is down. It prevents animals from using the toilet as a water bowl. It prevents things from falling into the toilet. It also eliminates the seat up/seat down argument.

    Even though I believe all of the above, it’s still not a social norm.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:59 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #84   Emily

    The lid should be down when the flushing takes place, that’s what the lid is for. After that I don’t care.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:19 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #84.1   Canthz_B bang

      Not to stir a turd with you, but how is that what the lid is for if toilets had lids before anyone discovered the “germ mist”?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:51 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #85   Colinski

    Well, my mother certainly raised me to always put the toilet seat down, so I grew up believing it was a social norm (also, I am a “dude”). She was raised in an upper-crust Anglo-Irish household in the forties and fifties, so I suspect it is or was at least a social norm in Great Britain.

    I also agree with the point that the seat is there for a reason, which adds to the notion that this was at least a social norm at some point. Also, I think in every place I’ve ever lived it was pretty easy to drop stuff in the toilet if the seat wasn’t down.

    Even if not a social norm per se, I think it’s good manners, especially when living with non-relatives or when guests are coming over (or when using someone else’s toilet).

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:27 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #85.1   Canthz_B bang

      When using someone else’s toilet, I generally leave it the way I found it.
      I assume that that is how they want it. ;-)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:55 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #85.2   se

      “Even if not a social norm per se”
      I did not yet venture an opinion on whether or not lid position is a social norm, but I think it is another anachronism left over from the days of the outhouse, where if you left a lid up, when you sat down, you might have gotten bitten.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:56 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #86   AntiSocialNorm

    I just poop in the Ladies room and don’t flush so I have no worries about flying funk. Just ask Casey.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:36 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #87   deb

    I never gave a flying you-know-what about toilet-seat lids being left up or down until I adopted my first dog. If the toilet lid gets left in the up position at my house, I know that wet, drippy, toilet-watery kisses on the face are the inevitable consequence.

    I’m not sure why one would consider this a “social norm,” even in the U.K. (where I used to live). That’s news to me. Methinks someone has the deadly combination of a warped sense of reality and too much time on his or her hands (unlike me. I could be doing WAY more important things that posting this comment; I simply choose not to).

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:43 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #88   April

    Yes, yes, yes I cannot stress enough to my sweet, precious children that they need to close the seat when they are done, before flushing. My toothbrush is close to that nastyness, seriously.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 12:45 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #88.1   Mishee bang

      Well, if you have issue with that, since the toilet seems to be pretty much stuck where it is, how about tossing the toothbrush in the medicine cabinet?

      (That is what I did when I read this magazine article about about germs from your toilet (yes! from your TOILET) go all over the bathroom when you flush! OMG! Can you imagine how gross that is?!)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:47 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #88.2   Canthz_B bang

      Not to mention all of the other places that germs and other little beasties and spores and such come from.
      If you dust your furniture, why would you leave your toothbrush in the open?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 12:59 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #88.3   April

      haha, ok I should read the thread before I respond.

      I *know* about the mythbusters thing and I am not a germ-freak, I just feel better with the lid closed. Besides the germs, it’s unsightly and in my tiny bathroom if anything gets knocked off the counter it goes right into the toilet.

      Mishee, I have no medicine cabinet. I live in a craphole of an apartment with landlords too cheap to apparently even provide a medicine cabinet and my one attempt at hanging one myself did not end well. So, I make do.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:10 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #88.4   Adam

      Again a solid case for team toothbrush case on a rope!

      OMG Mishee that is so funny because I think I read the same article in Readers Digest about the toilet tossing turd turbulence. It was so awful that I just slowly backed away and didn’t dare to flush. I later put my toddler in discarded dry cleaning bags and made her flush it.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:01 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #88.5   Summer

      On mythbusters, the experiment revealed that toothbrushes in another room away from the bathroom had the same amount of fecal matter on them. I think the outcome was that there is “poo”everywhere.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 4:03 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #89   itmustbeken bang

    All of this could have been avoided if the writer of this note had learned the ‘foot the lid down’ technique.

    This is the move in which you:
    a: use your foot to knock the lid down and then..
    b: quickly move your foot in front of the lid, preventing any loud lid banging on the commode.

    Problem solved and you get a nice glute workout!

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:11 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #90   Janna

    I grew up putting the lid down as my mother was afraid of sewer rats and snakes coming out of the toilet. (I know, I know…)

    But I still do it because I think it looks a heck of a lot nicer and my towel can wait there while I shower.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:32 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #90.1   Timo

      I take my wifes towel and put it in the dryer. Because it can be cold here it is nice to be handed a warm towel after a shower.

      I do leave the lid up sometimes. I forget.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:04 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #90.2   summer

      cute!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:45 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #90.3   snee

      team timo-and-a-warm-towel!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 5:57 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #90.4   Timo

      hee hee I’ ve learned doing the small things can yield great and fun results.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 4:46 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #91   Goldie

    After the tenth “OMG the germs escape when you flush” comment, I finally thought of a solution… DON’T FLUSH!! Think about it! They can’t escape if you do not flush. The reports said so! I know I know, it’s going to be smelly and unsightly, but do it for the germs. Won’t somebody please think of the germs?

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:35 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #92   Nerdette

    Nothing falls into a closed toilet.

    You close the lid in my house or you get your own bathroom. Just think of what those water droplets contain as they fly around the room if you flush with the lid up. *shudder*

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:38 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #93   mere bang

    i’m sure someone has already said this (but i’m going to say it again): i close the lid to keep the cat.. yes, the CAT, from drinking out of the toilet.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:39 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #93.1   Grade Ape

      knowing how finicky most cats are… I think you have effectively ended the “poo contaminants flying around my bathroom” debate.

      Thanks to you guys I am now afraid to even crack the door to my bathroom. I’ve started crapping on a large cast iron skillet then flinging the contents off of my balcony. It’s a dirty business but thank God there’s no invisible vortex of toilet mist!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 1:52 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #93.2   se

      “invisible vortex of toilet mist”
      That’s classic. I will have to use that somewhere at a later date. I may even cite you as author.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:02 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #93.3   aaa

      Sorry, I just debated a bit more on it. :o But hopefully my argument will help you to poop in a toilet again without fear of getting sucked into the plumbing by drowned cats and fecal coliforms.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:02 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #93.4   Timo

      Ape + flinging poo = big snorty laugh in cubical hell.

      If we don’t flush the terrorists have won. Be strong, sit down confidently and flush with your lid down.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:10 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #93.5   Grade Ape

      Thanks se! Rip freely and use well!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:12 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #94   aaa

    Dear roommate,

    Your passive-aggressive note is lacking pizazz. You seem unaware of the fact that it is considered the social norm to include such things as rainbow font, cutesy clipart, references to both Jesus and your mother, and threats of calling the police. I hope this information is helpful.

    Love,
    Marcus

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:46 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #94.1   killer-tofu

      Don’t forget the penises!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 1:04 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #95   aaa

    Those fecal coliforms hitch rides on your body once you crap them out, so the whole “The germs’ll get out of the toilet” thing doesn’t really matter. Unless you shower right after you poo, I suppose.

    Toilets are actually fairly clean since they’re usually cleaned on a regular basis with harsh chemicals. (This, of course, is contingent on the fixture actually being cleaned on a regular basis with the appropriate cleaners.) Kitchens (especially sinks) are way germier and most people don’t seem to have a problem preparing food there.

    Anyway, these bacteria, for the most part, aren’t nearly as bad as the hand-sanitizer manufacturers would have you believe. You’re fine if you just don’t be a dumbass about hygiene and food preparation. Which most people aren’t.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:59 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #95.1   Mishee bang

      I actually just heard somewhere the other day that the hand sanitizers aren’t doing what you think they are and they aren’t as effective as one might think they are.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:24 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.2   RunBarbara bang

      that’s why i drink them. it cleans out nasty bacteria and gives a fun little buzz.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:28 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.3   Mark bang

      Unnecessary use of triclosan-based hand sanitizers is breeding triclosan-resistant bacteria. Duh. Just like unnecessary use of penicillin, etc, does the same thing. (note that “unnecessary” in this case amounts to pretty much ALL household use of triclosan.)

      Bleach works great (though not for drinking, except in very small concentrations), and bacteria will not develop immunity to bleach.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:31 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.4   RunBarbara bang

      you know, it makes me wonder….i dont wash my hands very often and i am hardly ever sick. in fact, i would say that i am healthier than most people i know who do practice “standard” hygiene. maybe we should all just roll around in poop and leaves and wash our hair in urine.
      i bet disease would end. then we could use prescription medication for recreational use, like God intended.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:40 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.5   Canthz_B bang

      You can say it 5000 times, Mark, but people are afraid of germs, and have been brainwashed by Madison Avenue that they must buy the “new and improved” crappola on the eye-level shelf.
      Any numb-nuts knows that if your product kills 98% of bacteria then the 2% that are left to breed are resistant and over time the product will be useless. Not to worry, there is a new “new and improved” product ready to go as soon as that happens. :-|

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:43 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.6   Canthz_B bang

      Hydrogen peroxide is great stuff. Lots of household uses and really cheap.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:49 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.7   aaa

      There’s a reason why I stick to non-antibacterial soap and water when I wash my hands. :/

      Many companies (not just the cleaning ones) prey on people’s ignorance of basic biology (and other sciences) in order to sell them this unnecessary (or in some cases dangerous) crap. I can think of about a million diets, cleaning products, “healthy” foods, miracle widgets (as seen on TV), and nutritional supplements that would never have been successful if people a) were more skeptical, b) did their research before buying this crap, and c) had a working knowledge of biology and other sciences (or maybe just common sense).

      It’s not the marketing gurus’ faults that (collective) we buy into this crap, it’s ours. They’re just doing their job. If we educate ourselves and make more informed decisions about what we buy, they will adapt to fit our demands because they want to make sure they can keep paying off their mortgages and buying their bitchin cars (or whatever it is they spend their money on).

      Jul 19, 2008 at 10:45 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.8   aaa

      P.S.

      To clarify:

      When I said that people generally aren’t dumbasses about hygiene and food preparation, I meant that they generally know how to wash their hands, keep their raw meat from not contaminating their vegetables, and all that other stuff. Buying into the hyper-cleaning stuff doesn’t really count as being a dumbass about cleanliness, just being ignorant/gullible. Most people who are all into being hyper-clean do the basics. :D

      Jul 19, 2008 at 10:54 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #96   thebis4uknow

    I’d imagine waking up in the middle of the night, stumbling to the bathroom half asleep, groggily standing in front of the toilet (for a dude) and then proceeding to pee all over the lid would trump the “politeness” of putting the lid down.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 1:59 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #96.1   Canthz_B bang

      I’ve been there and done that. ;-)

      In my really heave drinking days dinner tended to land on a closed lid as well. When you need to blow chunks there always seems to only be time to get to the bowl. No time to fiddle with a lid! :-P

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:22 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #97   Bunnee

    All of the “reply to this comment” and “add to this thread” options have disappeared on just today’s note (at least for me). So, RunBarbara, I shall respond to you here. No, it wasn’t “white pee”, it was “brown pee” and it got in his shoes and everything! It was urgent that he get to a toilet, and he just ran in there and let ‘er rip. Now, I believe he TURNS ON THE LIGHT and checks the toilet before sitting down.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:02 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #97.1   snee

      HAHA! I WAS RIGHT!

      (note to self: get out more so being right about poop doesn’t make you yell: HAHA! I WAS RIGHT!)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 6:05 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #97.2   Mishee bang

      I’m still trying to figure out what the hell WHITE PEE is…

      And my lunch treat of guac and chips has been ruined!! THX snee!! :D

      Jul 18, 2008 at 6:18 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #97.3   Grade Ape

      “WHITE PEE… is baby pee… before it ripens we pluck it”

      That’s it?

      That’s it.

      (Obscure refrence from a Snapple commercial but the similarity between pee and tea was to delightful to ignore!)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 7:11 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #97.4   RunBarbara bang

      think about it.
      its white.
      it comes out of the place where guys pee…
      .
      .
      maybe i need to go get claw to do a demonstration for you.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 7:29 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #97.5   Mishee bang

      That was a Lipton Brewed commercial. Snapple is made from the best stuff on earth, but not white tea! :D (Jesus help me, I watch too much TV!)

      Thank you RB for the visual… I am gonna go take a bath now… :D :D

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:36 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #97.6   Canthz_B bang

      Guys with syphilis?
      Oh! Wait! I get it! Ooooo! :eek:

      Jul 18, 2008 at 11:59 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #98   CDM

    Growing up, my brother played in the toilet water a few times. So we kept the bathroom door closed. BUT…he obviously sneaked into the bathroom to do it again (or maybe someone wasn’t watching as closely as they should have been!) because we also had a what my mother called a ” $150 tennis ball”. That’s how much it cost to remove the ball from the pipes. The lid was down, door was closed AND my mother put a safety handle on the door knob after that incident! As for myself, my toilet has it’s own little room w/ a door inside the bathroom, so I just keep that door closed and don’t worry about the lid up or down issue.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:03 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #98.1   Mishee bang

      I wish I had a bathroom like that! My mother in law has one, and it’s the greatest invention since sliced bread!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:06 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #98.2   Canthz_B bang

      That sounds great! A private toilet stall so spouse, or anyone else for that matter, can brush their teeth while you, um, take your morning constitutional! :-)

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:29 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #98.3   se

      How would you brush your teeth while wearing a gas mask?

      Jul 18, 2008 at 6:02 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #99   Joyful

    Dear Marcus’ Roommate,

    It seems you are unaware of the fact that, in my house, it is considered a social norm to wake your roommate each morning with coffee, toast, and a big hug. I hope this information is helpful. I will expect this to begin tomorrow morning.

    Heart,

    Social Norm creator

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:10 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #100   Smitty

    My cat is blind, hates water, and occasionally likes to sit on the closed toilet lid. So we keep it closed just in case she accidentally jumps up to find an open lid. Poor blind kitty.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:11 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #101   Mishee bang

    Jesus, get this man on the phone, STAT:

    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jan/28/loveland-man-invents-self-closing-toilet-seat/

    They even mention Feng Shui in the article… LOL!

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:12 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #101.1   Canthz_B bang

      Now about that self-opening model…

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:36 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #102   AntiSocial Dick, Norm's jerky cousin

    That is it! With all the germs, airborne ass juice and Cats I am using the litterbox from now on. Ms Mittens will have to just suck it up and share.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:15 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #103   Craig

    Maybe he just takes particularly stinky poops, so he really should be putting the lid down.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:21 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #104   Sheepish bang

    i don’t believe in germs.

    or in social norms.

    it’s all a ploy to get people to buy more than just soap.

    who the f*ck needs to anti-bactiral-ize everything.

    you’re wasting your money and no matter what you do your roommates won’t like you.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:23 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #105   Laurie

    I always put the lid down, but I don’t go expecting others to.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:46 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #106   cricket bang

    Marcus,

    it seems that you are unaware of the fact that I am bat-shit crazy.

    I hope this information is helpful.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 2:49 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #106.1   Mishee bang

      at least we have cornered Margot Kidder now.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 2:53 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #106.2   Timo

      AHA! She was bound to surface somewhere babbling nonsense.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 3:44 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #107   marishka

    At our house, we put the lids down. That makes it more equal. My guy never has to remember to put the seat down and I never have to remember to check; it’s automatic and fair that we both lift each time: him two layers, me one layer.

    As for germs….we share a lot of germs with each other every day and haven’t gotten sick from it yet….we share germs with strangers every day and don’t get sick with any regularity. What is making germs particularly virulent are all of the anti-bacterial soaps and potions that make germs adapt and become stronger.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 3:01 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #108   Aleks

    This is hilarious! I am so OCD about the lid (I prefer it to be kept up so I don’t fall into the damn bowl) that I took it off when my ex lived with me. Yup. Took. The. Lid. Off. Hee!

    Jul 18, 2008 at 3:05 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #109   Chloe

    As a female who lived in a house with 8 boys and 3 girls during college, I’m over the whole seat up / seat down conundrum. I’m more bothered by the fact that men seem to leave plentiful amounts of pubic hair on and around the toilet – and I’m not really sure why.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 3:16 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #109.1   marishka

      How do you know it’s the men?????

      Jul 18, 2008 at 3:23 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #109.2   Mishee bang

      Chloe (wondering if you are a 14 year old French prostitute with webbed feet…) I agree. I have wondered the same about Mr. Mishee quite often. And I know it’s him since there are only 2 of us here!

      Team Clean Up Your Damn Pubes!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 8:40 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #109.3   Timo

      Has she ever been to Belgium?

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:31 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #110   Sirius bang

    For the sake of your own health and safety, you must leave the lid CLOSED! When you flush a toilet, the agitation of the water creates an invisible mist of soiled wet retarded cats which gets on any exposed surface. This is of particular concern in New York City, where stupid cats fall in the toilet and then interbreed with albino alligators, usually after eating super-potent sewer weed. Imagine a wet stoned poo-covered gatorcat chewing on your toothbrush!

    Seriously, I think PA notes should be met with PA behavior. If I were the Marcus in question, I would be cheerful and diligent in my lid-closing from this point on. And, when my roomate was out of the house, her toothbrush — well, let’s just say it would be finding some new cavities.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 4:08 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #110.1   Mishee bang

      I don’t know what’s worse…

      Wet, stoned, poo-covered gatorcat or some fucktard freebasing kittens in the lobby of the Hoover Building…

      This [website] is becoming a cat lover’s worst nightmare…

      Jul 18, 2008 at 4:11 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #110.2   Timo

      I so want a wet stoned NON-poo covered gatorcat. That is like my favouritist animal ever!

      Jul 18, 2008 at 7:32 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #110.3   grumpygranolagirl

      I renamed mine “Gatorcat” this weekend.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 8:14 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #111   GhostWriter bang

    Somebody should contact the MythBusters to determine if closing the lid during flushing really helps.

    No, this isn’t a lame attempt at repeating the ongoing punchline. The truth is, MythBusters never really tested the theory being proposed. They only tested the amount of bacteria found on toothbrushes, and found out that all levels throughout the bathroom were benign. Their rather unscientific test had nothing to do with the toilet lid.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 4:12 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #112   Mishee bang

    And BTW kerry, on your other question:

    The toilet paper roll goes OVER… EVERYBODY knows that! :D

    Jul 18, 2008 at 4:13 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #113   TheNerd

    I totally got my husband to be a permanent lid-down kind of guy by telling him that leaving the lid up allows aerosolized bits of urine and feces into the air to settle on his toothbrush and/or be breathed in!

    Jul 18, 2008 at 5:28 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #113.1   Quite Contrary

      And how do you explain public bathrooms to him?

      Jul 20, 2008 at 11:44 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #114   Malice

    I always close the lid, just because I read somewhere that when you don’t close it before flushing, germs from your waste can float up and get on your toothbrush or whatever when you flush.

    Just a habit for me, now.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 7:45 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #115   Roki

    I ALWAYS put the seat down. No one ever asked me to and I dont think youre supposed to, at least i dont think its polite, its just a habit for me. None of my family does it, I just read in a book that when the toilet flushes water from it sprays all over the bathroom and I dont want toilet water on my tooth brush

    Jul 18, 2008 at 7:55 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #115.1   Canthz_B bang

      Imagine that.

      Jul 18, 2008 at 9:28 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #115.2   Timo

      Well if it was in a book…

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:36 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #116   Mike

    My wife and I do this but only because we have cats. The blue stuff in the toliet water will kill them.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 9:24 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #117   TuesdayPillow

    I am astounded at the amount of people that don’t turn on a light to use the bathroom in the middle of the night.

    What is wrong with you?!?

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:12 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #117.1   SarahBelle

      I don’t, but I have a nightlight in the bathroom. I don’t want to be blinded by the full scope of brightness the regular lights emit. Plus, I think it’s silly to turn every light from the bathroom to the bedroom on and off again to see your way back.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 1:33 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #118   GatorCat

    I close the lid because I once read that toilet water can spray up to 6 feet when being flushed – ew. My toothbrush is within that range.

    On the other hand, if this could create a gatorcat, even when covered in poo, I could be swayed…

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:21 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #119   Canthz_B bang

    I wonder if the seemingly inordinate fear of dropping things in the toilet, expressed so often on this thread, is related to the methods used to teach us to keep our hands out of the toilet as toddlers.

    Surely, no one here spends their days constantly dropping things, so why should they suddenly fear getting fumble fingers in the bathroom?

    There’s a psych paper in there somewhere.

    Jul 18, 2008 at 11:24 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #119.1   booge

      Really, I think you need to find out how big people’s bathrooms are and how much stuff they have in them. I live in Brooklyn and my entire apartment is less than 300 square feet, including the bathroom and kitchen. No space and no counters make booge go clumsy.

      Sidenote: I play for Team Courtesy Flush, and I’m really surprised not to see any members of my team represented in this whole entire conversation. Can I get a shout out? Please? Flush whilst you’re still on the commode, while the shit is still being extruded, so no one else needs to experience what is coming out your ass. Plus, less chance of clogs when paper and poo don’t meet, if you’re one of us who Shits with the Gods. Let’s hear it for the Courtesy Flush.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 1:20 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #119.2   Canthz_B bang

      I’ve lived in an apartment where the bathroom was not much bigger than a closet. I didn’t lose motor control.
      I assume you have a small kitchen area as well. Are you able to plate food without dropping it?
      If your bathroom is too small for a lot of stuff…don’t put so much stuff in your bathroom.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 1:26 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #119.3   booge

      I drop food, too. No counter also makes booge clumsy. Sink + stove, but no counter. Sad.

      I think you expect too much of me and my motor skills, man.

      Because of such high expectations, booge lives alone, so when I drop shit that isn’t feces in the toilet or stuff that doesn’t belong on the floor it’s no one else’s fault. Please note I never told anyone else to close the lid. I could give a fuck.

      If you want to tell me how to organize my bathroom, you need to either be willing to lend me money on occasion (as my blood relatives will), or put up with my bullshit with love (as my friends will), or risk getting put out of my house (as obnoxious dates will).

      So…you want to see Batman this weekend? And then get put out on the street after a roll in the hay and a comment about my shampoos? Or lend me a twamp? Or look at this thing on my back and tell me if it’s a bug bite or a pimple and then hear about how my boss is a twat? Or shut the fuck up about my toiletries? I’m cute and clumsy and cranky and I Shit with the Gods.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 1:50 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #119.4   Canthz_B bang

      Back up there, Sparky.

      I made a humorous observation about how our parents can shape our attitudes with how they train us as toddlers.

      Telling someone what to do started at: “Really, I think you need to find out how big people’s bathrooms are and how much stuff they have in them.”

      I really care not at all about your current circumstances. I have my own problems. ;-)

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:22 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #119.5   Timo

      I am all for Team Courtesy Flush. Living in foreign countries where water pressure and crapper design is less than optimal multiple flushes can be a necessity. So flushing whilst operating the big PlayPoo Doh extruder is the best way to get everything down the pipe with out a “situation” occurring.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:45 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #119.6   snee

      i used “back up there, sparky!” in conversation today. nope, i didn’t give you credit, canthz b. sorry.

      i will give you 25¢ (cdn.) or a resounding “HUZZAH!” in lieu of credit.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:05 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #119.7   Timo

      Will I still have to pay royalties if I use “Back it up there Chachi!” because it does sound similar?

      Jul 20, 2008 at 4:53 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #119.8   Canthz_B bang

      No royalties.
      I don’t want to be associated with Chachi (or Joanie) in any way shape or form! :-P

      Jul 20, 2008 at 5:09 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #120   SarahBelle

    To all those who “read somewhere that flushing with the lid up sprays ass mist all over and infects your toothbrush…”

    Remember that little thing you learned in grade-school about not believing everything you read? Remember that just because it’s written in a book or something doesn’t mean it’s true.

    Jul 19, 2008 at 1:35 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #120.1   Canthz_B bang

      I’m publishing a book that says that if you send me money you will live a long, happy, healthy life for as long as you continue to send me money.
      I will include examples of people who are alive today that send me money as proof that sending me money gives them life.

      Please read it.
      Thanks for your support.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 1:45 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #120.2   SarahBelle

      Sweet I’m gonna go out and buy it the second it hits the store shelves. Wait! I can’t wait that long. Since I PAN.com with you do you think you could send me a copy as soon as it’s written? I’ll pay more if it’ll make me happier!!!

      side note — re: 122 I know ;)

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:34 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #120.3   Canthz_B bang

      You have my word as an author that paying me more is 100% guaranteed to bring happiness!

      *fine print: happiness to at least one of us.*

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:57 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #121   Grade Ape

    -BREAKING NEWS-

    I just saw on Oprah (hey, don’t judge me!) that in 70% of fast food restaurants randomly tested(?), the ice had a higher concentration of bacteria (ecoli and fecal coliforms) than that same restaurants toilet water. 80% for hotel ice and airline ice beat all of the other samples hands down!

    Everybody knows that you can’t believe everything you read, but seeing something on Oprah, you can take that to the bank!

    Jul 19, 2008 at 1:50 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #121.1   Timo

      OMG What is next to the bathroom on airplanes!?!? Yup. THE BATHROOM! We are having everyone on the plane who has gone dookey ass mist in our drink…
      I read this in the InFlight magazine…

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:52 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #121.2   Mishee bang

      InFlight magazine? Really?

      I heard it during the flight attendant’s Safety Procedures announcement at the beginning of the flight…

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:56 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #121.3   Timo

      Well you know I only get my life informing tips from completely reputable sources!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 3:18 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #121.4   amazon bang

      “In the event of an emergency water landing, please don’t shit your pants. We don’t want inhale your ass mist. That’s just nasty and trifling.”

      Jul 20, 2008 at 7:01 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #121.5   Mark bang

      “Slime in the ice machine!!”

      Jul 20, 2008 at 7:10 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #122   Canthz_B bang

    re: 120.1

    Not you, SarahBelle. You know what I mean! LOL ;-)

    Jul 19, 2008 at 1:52 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #123   Al

    Morning Meest:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=vtTEGOxnq8M

    not just a Filipino thing?

    Jul 19, 2008 at 9:24 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #124   Anna

    Yes, the lid stays down because there have been studies that show an invisible spray of water comes up from the toilet when you flush it. So unless you want everything in your bathroom covered with toilet water, you close the lid!

    Jul 19, 2008 at 10:01 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #124.1   NoPunIntended bang

      No Shit??? I never heard that before.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 12:16 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #124.2   secondsout bang

      Anna, for failing to read the thousands of replies before yours that say the same goddamn thing, I feel that you have no choice but to don the unitard.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 1:17 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #125   Sirius bang

    I am at work in my secret laboratory, attempting to merge the Fecal Spray Controversy with the Should You Tip Your Server topic.

    End result: Immortality!

    Bwa-ha-ha etc.

    Jul 19, 2008 at 12:05 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #125.1   Canthz_B bang

      Quiz:

      Which has been said more often?

      1) Being a server is hard work for little pay and if you’ve never been a server you can’t possibly know my sorrows.

      2) Germs escape from the toilet when you flush.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 12:47 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #125.2   nic

      Ooh Ooh! *raises hand*
      What is #1? I think that it will end up being a tie though, it’s still early.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 1:50 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #125.3   Timo

      If you are a server working hard on a number two will your germs still escape when you flush?

      As always all employees must wash their hands before leaving the bathroom.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 2:55 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #126   Marcus

    Once again, the poo contaminated toilet aerosol mist will escape from your toilet whether or not the lid is down, unless your toilet is hermetically sealed – it will pass between the rim/seat and seat/lid as each are raised off the other by several small feet

    Jul 19, 2008 at 1:08 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #126.1   Canthz_B bang

      But doesn’t the inside of the lid emit a magical disinfectant beam as soon as you close it?

      Jul 19, 2008 at 1:32 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #127   Sirius bang

    I actually raised my seat off the rim by several feet, but it was an accident. pictures to follow…

    Jul 19, 2008 at 1:14 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #128   Anna

    I’ve heard of putting the seat down, but not the lid…the complaint is ridiculous, I think.

    Jul 19, 2008 at 3:28 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #129   Geoff

    I have heard that flushing a toilet can throw fecal particles up to 5 feet. That is why I close the lid and also why I keep my toothbrush in the living room.

    Jul 19, 2008 at 4:00 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #129.1   Canthz_B bang

      Yes, and shower in the kitchen.
      May I suggest you actually read the comments here, Geoff.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 4:12 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #129.2   secondsout bang

      Today is unitard appreciation day, apparently. Who has the better unitard, Anna at 124 or Geoff at 129?

      Jul 19, 2008 at 5:08 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #129.3   snee

      don’t forget marie at 24 and se at 51.9. both are unitard-worthy.

      garçon, spandex for 4, s’il vous plaît!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 6:09 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #129.4   Canthz_B bang

      Gotta be Geoff because he moved his toothbrush, but still takes his lungs into the bathroom.

      Snee, both of yours get picked because their FD’s did not apply to the note itself.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 6:14 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #129.5   se

      well, next time, I’ll have to comment that the “invisible vortex of toilet mist”(author=Grape Ape) was fucking delicious…umm, maybe not.

      I was just trying to get a mishee line started.. I know that someone out there hates that.

      I will climb into that uniturd as soon as it’s ready and do my time.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 9:01 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #129.6   se

      that was actually supposed to read unitard…

      Jul 19, 2008 at 9:08 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #129.7   Mishee bang

      Wow, over 400 posts and the thread isn’t all about me yet! Must be a RECORD!

      *did I hear my name?*

      Jul 19, 2008 at 9:11 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #129.8   Canthz_B bang

      No, but your cats got honorable mention, Mishee! :-P

      se, Uniturd actually works pretty well on this thread! ;-)

      Jul 19, 2008 at 9:22 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #130   Wet Pu***y

    I store my cat in the toilet; so obliviously it’s important to me that the lid stays down. In addition to keeping the lid down, I go the x-tra mile by putting a weight on the lid; such as a potted plant or an unused VCR. That way, kitty really stays secure.

    Jul 19, 2008 at 5:34 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #130.1   Troy McClure bang

      Obliviously? Sounds like a bad love song—”You Don’t Know How Important You Are to Me” or something—after a round-the-world-tour flying AltaVista: “Obliviously Important to Me”.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:28 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #130.2   Mishee bang

      I like how Wet Pu**y used the ** to shield the “Bad Language” even though if s/he had only read one other (pretty much any) thread here, they would know that cussing is the least of Kerry’s concerns when it comes to “Policing” us on this blog! HA!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:31 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #130.3   Canthz_B bang

      I love a good Freudian slip!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:38 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #130.4   Timo

      I like a nice rack in a lacy freudian brassiere myself but slips can be quite nice too.

      Wasn’t there an ABBA or someone similar song like that called “Hopelessly Oblivious to you”?

      Jul 20, 2008 at 5:03 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #131   leigh

    I prefer the lid to be down but don’t complain if someone forgets. Since I got cats it’s been more of an issue because one of my cats is clumsy so he’ll fall in and then freak out and go shooting through the house getting everything wet with toilet water. So I do remind visitors about it but if I find it open I just close it myself. (how hard is that?)

    Jul 19, 2008 at 6:05 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #131.1   Grade Ape

      Jee-Zus! This fucking comment is such a perfect parroting off all the previous entries that at first I thought it was one of y’all being sarcastic.

      I was wrong, it’s just another fucktard… Mishee, package up the Unitard, I’ll pay for postage (express overnight, signature required).

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:16 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.2   Mishee bang

      it is currently in use by meandjez – in 20 hrs leigh can have it… hopefully Troy ordered the extras to come overnight, cause I have a feeling we are gonna need it!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:26 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.3   Canthz_B bang

      I’m starting to think something was wrong with my cats (Tut and Cleopatra).
      They never fucked around in my toilet.
      Or, perhaps mine were fine and something is wrong with other people’s fall into shallow water and can’t get out felines. :-P

      What? What? Bring it!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:33 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.4   Mishee bang

      CB – Crack Kitty never had a problem getting OUT, just issues with staying on the seat if the lid is up! Then there is the issue of wet (toilet water) cat coming to you for comfort after their impromptu bath! :D

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:35 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.5   Canthz_B bang

      But that’s because your cat was fucking around in the toilet.
      Mine didn’t do such things, so I never had to think about wet, toilet water kitty issues.
      To read this thread, you’d think that all cats fuck around in open toilets. The fact is that most felines really don’t like being wet.
      That’s why one method of training them to not use your furniture as a scratching post is to use a water gun. They hate that shit.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 7:40 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.6   Canthz_B bang

      While I’m venting my spleen:

      Stop acting like there is a separate reservoir somewhere that your toilet water comes from. It’s the same water that you get from your kitchen faucets.
      A clean toilet yields clean toilet water.
      Unless you use one of the hang in the toilet bowl or drop in the tank cleaning products (bleach tabs, the “blue stuff”) let your pets enjoy the “colder-than-my-water-dish” water, and stop freaking out about putting your hand in there to get your lipstick!
      You want to worry about something? Worry about what the inside of your hot water heater looks like!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 8:10 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.7   Canthz_B bang

      You don’t get this attitude from bidet users.

      Free your mind and your ass will follow!

      Jul 19, 2008 at 8:17 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.8   Canthz_B bang

      Free Your Mind And Your Ass Will Follow

      {G Clinton, Eddie Hazel, Ray Davis}

      Free your mind and your ass will follow
      The kingdom of heaven is within
      (x3)
      Open up your funky mind and you can fly
      Free your mind and your ass will follow
      The kingdom of heaven is within

      Freedom is free of the need to be free

      Free your mind and your ass will follow
      The kingdom of heaven is within
      (x4)
      Yeah

      Free your mind and your ass will follow (your ass will follow)
      The kingdom of heaven is within
      Whoaaaaa!
      Free your mind (will you free your mind?)
      And your ass will follow (and your ass will follow)
      I have never, never never
      Never in my life
      Had this given to me

      Free your mind and your ass will follow
      ?
      Not like you
      You are as free as you want to be (your ass will follow)

      Well, I discovered that this life that was gettin’ to me
      Is not really mine (Free your mind and your ass will follow)
      If it were mine, I would have fun all of the time
      I’m very disgruntled now
      Now, I want a way out, now
      I have to find a way
      I have to find some way out
      Free your mind and your ass will follow (x2)

      Give it up, give it up (free your mind and your ass will follow)
      Give it up and give it to me, baby

      I’m calling you love
      Love
      ?from my heart

      Free your mind and your ass will follow

      Wowww!
      ?

      Free your mind and your ass will follow (x2)
      The kingdom of heaven is within
      Free your mind and your ass will follow (x3)

      Get it on!
      Free your mind and your ass will follow
      The kingdom of heaven is within
      Free your mind and your ass will follow
      The kingdom of heaven is within (x5)

      The kingdom of heaven is within (free your mind!)
      The kingdom of heaven is within (free your mind yawf)
      The kingdom of heaven is within (x6)

      The kingdom of heaven is within (are you satisfied?)
      (x4)
      The kingdom of heaven is within
      (I wanna know! Free your mind and your ass will follow)
      The kingdom of heaven is within (I Really care)
      The kingdom of heaven is within (x2)

      The kingdom of heaven is within
      I’m so confused about it all (x2)
      I’m so confused about the whole thing
      I don’t understand
      I don’t understand nothin’
      I don’t know what I feel
      I can’t feel me, I can’t live me, I can’t be me
      My mind, it does not belong to me
      I’m so confused (x2)
      I can’t hear myself
      I can’t hear myself calling for help
      I can’t free my mind
      So my ass can’t follow
      Someone help me
      I got to get help
      Here’s my arm
      Help me escape
      I don’t want to (x3)
      I can’t free my mind
      No, no, no
      They won’t free me
      I can’t run
      I can’t get out
      I can’t free my mind (x3)
      I’m so mixed up
      So mixed up
      What time is it? (x3)

      Resurrection, free of charge
      I can’t hear me (x2)
      Free your mind and your ass will follow
      I can’t
      Free your mind and your ass will follow
      The kingdom of heaven is within (x4)
      Free your mind and your ass will follow

      Jul 19, 2008 at 8:22 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.9   snee

      i don’t want to be an asswipe, but this is really the thread for venting your colon, not your spleen. just saying.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:14 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.10   Timo

      Sweet a Geo. Clinton reference! Atomic Dog. CB you are awesome!

      Jul 20, 2008 at 5:15 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #132   Mishee bang

    ATTENTION: IF YOU ARE GOING TO POST YOUR OPINION ON THIS NOTE, PLEASE READ THE OTHER COMMENTS FIRST!

    I guaran-fuckin-tee you that IT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID!… IN SPADES!! (no offense CB – lol)

    So it be heard – If you disregard this posting and decide to post anyways, you will be subject to incarceration in the Unitard for no more than 20 hours, no less than 15.

    This is my proclamation.

    Jul 19, 2008 at 6:42 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #132.1   Canthz_B bang

      So let it be written…So let it be done!

      i luv yul brenner:-P

      Jul 19, 2008 at 6:50 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #132.2   amazon bang

      But please go ahead and post a comment on “This is Why Your Server is Cranky.” I’m sure there is something unique you can contribute to that discussion.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 7:08 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #133   Canthz_B bang

    Marcus should pick something trivial to pick on his roomie about.
    Like which direction the knives face in the drawer! LOL

    Jul 19, 2008 at 6:48 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #133.1   snee

      HEY! enough with the crazy talk. that’s serious. the knives must face up so you don’t cut your hand reaching in. anything else would require a PAN, and i’m just the snee to write it.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:16 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #133.2   amazon bang

      I got a stern lecture from my BF for putting a knife in the dishwasher utensil basket blade side up.

      If you don’t look before you reach into the basket, you deserve to lose a pinky finger. Gawd, what a whiner.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 7:11 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #133.3   Canthz_B bang

      Mine go blade side up in the dishwasher, but, if I do the dishes by hand, blade side down in the dish-rack.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 8:04 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #134   Marcus

    Oh I have plenty of notes, just that was the best one. Coming a close second (paraphrasing):

    “Please zero the microwave clock if you don’t use all the time, so I don’t have to.”

    And third…

    “Open the window after you have a shower so that the bathroom does not get damp [ignoring the fact that there is an extractor fan] but close it again after an hour because spiders will come in.”

    I was also deemed noteworthy to inform me not to…

    …leave a plate in the drainer next to the sink.
    …leave a spoon unwashed in the sink.

    Jul 19, 2008 at 10:10 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #134.1   Canthz_B bang

      We’ve done a microwave time note here already, but I’m sure the others would be a real treat.
      We’ll try not to let you down and to be at our snarkiest! :-D

      Question…is your flat-mate male or female?

      Jul 19, 2008 at 10:23 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #135   Marcus

    Female. I did just browse through to the microwave note already on the site – I can possibly dimly imagine that someone may be annoyed at having to make extra key presses to reset the clock before they are able to program in extra/new time to use the microwave, but this particular model has a dial which is turned to indicate the cook time. So it is impossible to set it accurately for anything less than 30 second increments, and would only need be moved a bit more clockwise to get the time you want.

    As for the other notes, I’m sure I have them around somewhere and they will be posted in due course when I find them. I remember submitting the above note about the toilet in May, and when realising that it didn’t appear, imagined that it was not of sufficient quality to be published here.

    Jul 19, 2008 at 10:46 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #135.1   Canthz_B bang

      Oh, my.
      You’re not her flat-mate, you’re her son! LOL

      Best of luck to you.
      We’ll be keeping an eye out for any follow-up materials…or news reports of a gruesome murder case in Leicester! LOL :-P

      Jul 19, 2008 at 11:07 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #136   jamo

    Hey,

    to all you crazy people quoting mythbusters:

    http://mythbusters-wiki.discovery.com/page/Toothbrush+Surprise

    If you paid more attention and maybe checked the facts…

    YOU COULD HAVE AVOIDED EATING YOUR OWN SHIT.

    Jul 19, 2008 at 11:01 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #136.1   Canthz_B bang

      Not avoidable, not dangerous:

      Fecal coliforms bacteria can grow in toothbrush bristles.
      CONFIRMED
      Fecal coliforms were indeed found on all the test brushes, including the control ones. However, none were of a level high enough to be dangerous, and experts confirm that such coliforms were impossible to completely avoid.

      http://mythbustersresults.com/episode12

      Back under your rock with you!
      Next time you quote mythbusters, quote mythbusters, not something from wiki ;-)

      Jul 19, 2008 at 11:15 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.2   Canthz_B bang

      jamo, every time you open your big mouth, you’re eating shit!
      It’s just part of the air we all breathe, get used to it or move off-world!

      In fact, just move off-world! ;-)

      Jul 19, 2008 at 11:23 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.3   Canthz_B bang

      Fucking asshole.
      Over 6.7 billion people shitting on this tiny rock (not even going to consider wildlife shits) and you think you live in a sanitary environment?
      Fucking asshole, man. :roll:

      Jul 19, 2008 at 11:33 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.4   se

      A recent study at the Univ of Washington found high levels of fecal coliforms on the public keyboards in the library. I wonder if they have lids on the toilets there?
      What is living on your keyboard?

      Jul 19, 2008 at 11:40 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.5   Canthz_B bang

      You know what? I stand corrected. The site used was fine.
      The findings reported:

      Results: —- Fecal matter was found on all toothbrushes, including the control brush, but levels weren’t high enough to be dangerous to humans.

      Conclusion: —- That fecal matter is found on toothbrushes not only next to the toilet, but everywhere in the bathroom.

      Nothing about avoiding it mentioned there, however, so I stand by my “get back under your rock” statement.

      Jul 19, 2008 at 11:44 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.6   jamo

      hey canthz_b,

      thanks for biting..i just had to drop a PAN here, thought the caps at least would have set your alarm bells ringing.

      From my link:

      “Most home toilets have lids, and the one they tested was lidless. If they tested a toilet with a lid closed, I would expect a different result.”

      So not a thorough test. Germs are everywhere but I still don’t want that on my toothbrush. The lids aren’t sealed but they do help. Ever cleaned the bottom of one? True we have a lot of bacteria in us but you still shouldn’t put poo in your mouth.

      “get back under your rock”
      “In fact, just move off-world! ;-)”
      “Fucking asshole, man. :roll:”

      Wow. Did I get to you? Find some facts, prove me wrong…or try insult me some more, it’s pretty funny.

      BTW, great site :-)

      Jul 20, 2008 at 4:04 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.7   Mishee bang

      the unfortunate result of the pairing of a hot bed topic weekend note and the invent of google

      Jul 20, 2008 at 4:06 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.8   NoPunIntended bang

      Not to rain on your misinformation parade, Jamo, but I thought I’d let you in on a little secret.

      Coliform bacteria are those that colonize your very own intestines. Sometimes they cause infection, mostly giving you the runs.

      You are more likely to have a problem (endocarditis, gingivitius, abscess formation) from the bacteria which normally reside in your mouth.

      Thus, shut the hell up and brush your fucking teeth already.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 4:19 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.9   Canthz_B bang

      There is no right or wrong to prove.
      Bacteria are on your toothbrush, but not in amounts deemed harmful.

      Those are the facts I copied and pasted from the source you provided, jamo

      Too bad comprehension is not an automatic part of reading, huh jamo.

      Chalk this up to trying to make an issue out of a non-issue.

      I’d call you a name or two, but I’m much too busy right now.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 4:27 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.10   jamo

      There’s no right or wrong to prove, i just wanted to debunk the false Mythbusters claims going about.

      Have made no mention of it being harmful, only that it spreads to your toothbrush…no misinformation in any of my posts, bad call there. Oh and given that we’re talking about fecal matter, NPI, don’t you think I’ve figured out where coliform bacteria (e. coli etc) come from?

      “Too bad comprehension is not an automatic part of reading, huh jamo.”

      After your comprehension FAIL on that link in my post, C_B? Glorious hypocrisy.

      Hate the Passive Agressive Note not the subject matter. You have no win in this thread.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 8:26 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.11   Canthz_B bang

      The misinformation was that you insinuated in your very first comment that the spread could be “avoided”.
      Your word, not mine. Read what you submitted, jerk.

      I never said that you said it was harmful. I pointed out that the info you provided said that it was not harmful.

      If you point me to a site for information, why be upset if I take the time to read all of the info, not just the piece you want to pick out?

      So you see, my friend, it is you with the comprehension fail, not I.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 8:42 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.12   Canthz_B bang

      jamo–”YOU COULD HAVE AVOIDED EATING YOUR OWN SHIT.”

      jamo–”no misinformation in any of my posts, bad call there.”

      Mythbusters–Results: —- Fecal matter was found on all toothbrushes, including the control brush, but levels weren’t high enough to be dangerous to humans.

      Conclusion: —- That fecal matter is found on toothbrushes not only next to the toilet, but everywhere in the bathroom.

      CB–”Nothing about avoiding it mentioned there”

      I rest my case.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 8:55 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.13   jamo

      “The misinformation was that you insinuated in your very first comment that the spread could be avoided.”

      It can: keep your toothbrush in a different room to your toilet. Where’s the misinformation?

      “I never said that you said it was harmful.”

      You did claim I couldn’t read information properly when I didn’t mention that fact…comment 136.9 is FAIL.

      “why be upset if I take the time to read all of the info”

      But you didn’t. You got a bit angry at my post, resorted to name-calling and then admitted your reading fail. Since then you’ve not managed to contradict what I said. I know you want to win, you’re probably used to winning around here…this time it’s fail.

      Have I won something yet?

      Jul 20, 2008 at 9:17 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.14   jamo

      C_B, you can avoid it by not keeping it near a toilet.

      They don’t say it in the material linked to because it’s pretty obvious.

      So, knowing that the toilet will send a mist containing your recent deposits in its vicinity, you could avoid getting shit-spray on your toothbrush (and putting it in your mouth) by not keeping your toothbrush near the toilet.

      Where’s the misinformation? Do you admit fail yet?

      Jul 20, 2008 at 9:34 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.15   Canthz_B bang

      Nothing in the Mythbusters that you sited says that keeping your toothbrush in another room will do a damned bit of good. Mythbusters only tested in the bathroom.
      You are assuming facts not in evidence.
      Please prove that this is effective in some way. The site you sent does not support what I can only call your “other room theory”.

      Pointing out a fact that you did not mention is NOT the same as saying that
      you said anything of any kind.

      136.9 was a response to your request for facts. I pasted the facts for the second time for you, the comprehension was regarding the fact that I had already pasted these facts for you and you apparently did not understand that the point is moot since you asked for facts after I had already posted them.

      I’m not trying to contradict the fact that bacteria grow on toothbrushes. This is a fact, why should I try to contradict that?

      Jul 20, 2008 at 9:35 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.16   Canthz_B bang

      “It’s pretty obvious” is a piss poor way of doing science.
      It’s pretty obvious from where I sit that the Earth is flat.

      No one has said that all or even most of the turd mist stays in the bathroom.
      Have you ever seen street trash follow a passing automobile? Imagine your shit plume following you out of the bathroom.
      No one has mentioned air-flow in the home and how this affects the vapor plume.

      You are making assumptions without nearly enough information to say anything of value at all.

      You are just not very bright, jamo.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 9:45 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.17   Canthz_B bang

      “C_B, you can avoid it by not keeping it near a toilet.

      They don’t say it in the material linked to because it’s pretty obvious.”

      No, you poor deluded soul, they don’t say it because they cannot say it. They don’t say it because to do so would be irresponsible because they did not test for that.
      They don’t say it because they (like you) have no way to back it up.

      Ask your science teacher about the scientific method next September. ;-)

      Jul 20, 2008 at 9:56 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.18   jamo

      Oh dear, C_B,

      “The misinformation was that you insinuated in your very first comment that the spread could be “avoided”.”

      “Please prove that this is effective in some way.”

      You want me to show you where you can keep your toothbrush without getting crapmist on it?
      http://www.waproducts.net/clean.html seems like a pretty obvious place to me.

      But that’s pretty outrageous for a bit of harmless shitspray which is why, in my original bait, i said “COULD” which implies possibility not certainty. If I had said ‘WOULD’ then you would have had something there. Check with your English teacher, it’s pretty basic. Cackvapour is avoidable with extreme measures but we’re talking about lids. If you are trying to imply that a healthy hit of LSD won’t help at all (i.e., cause less mist) then you just shouldn’t do physics.

      The source also mentions that with the inclusion of a lid different results would be expected. No proof but certainly a mention.

      Comment 136.9 is FAIL. The excerpt is not relevant to your argument about avoiding it. It has no bearing on this discussion other than to prove shitmist spreads from an uncovered toilet when flushed.

      “You are just not very bright, jamo.”

      Again with the poor insults. It takes you 3 posts to get your point across and you think you have the authority to say something that? You haven’t won in this thread, not once. Stop trying to up the comment count-your repetitive ramblings should be discounted.

      Unless you post something new/interesting/clever I’m out. It’s been fun baiting you over the weekend but I’m looking for more of a challenge. For your persistence I’ll reward you with the internet…take care of it and don’t leave it in the bathroom.

      Happy crapping everyone. Keep that lid down…

      Jul 21, 2008 at 4:26 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.19   Canthz_B bang

      Having waited patiently for you to figure out the obvious answer, let me point you to comment #23.1

      If you don’t understand that even with the lid down your toilet is not hermetically sealed, you should not do biology.

      The source also mentions that with the inclusion of a lid different results would be expected. No proof but certainly a mention.
      A valid hypothesis which they did not test…pure conjecture.

      You have not one actual fact to hang your hat on.
      You persist in trying to make this an all or nothing proposition when in reality it is neither.

      Normally it would not take me so many posts to get my point across, but you’re quite obtuse.

      You have not baited me, I have enjoyed our little (very little) debate, but you’re not yet worthy.

      I wish you well. ;-)

      Jul 21, 2008 at 4:47 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.20   Canthz_B bang

      PS: Nice back-track on the “Could” vs. “Would”…too bad you forgot that you locked yourself into “would” by saying “C_B, you can avoid it by not keeping it near a toilet.”

      By saying I “can” avoid it, you’re saying that by doing something I “would” avoid it. In fact you’re implying that by moving your toothbrush, you yourself DO avoid it. ;-)

      Jul 21, 2008 at 4:59 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.21   Canthz_B bang

      And lastly, just to keep things in context (which you deliberately distorted):

      “The misinformation was that you insinuated in your very first comment that the spread could be avoided.”

      It can: keep your toothbrush in a different room to your toilet. Where’s the misinformation?

      C_B, you can avoid it by not keeping it near a toilet.

      Nothing in the Mythbusters that you sited says that keeping your toothbrush in another room will do a damned bit of good. Mythbusters only tested in the bathroom.
      You are assuming facts not in evidence.
      Please prove that this is effective in some way. The site you sent does not support what I can only call your “other room theory”.

      You want me to show you where you can keep your toothbrush without getting crapmist on it?
      http://www.waproducts.net/clean.html seems like a pretty obvious place to me.

      *clearly not another room in the typical home*

      If you are trying to imply that a healthy hit of LSD won’t help at all (i.e., cause less mist) then you just shouldn’t do physics.

      No one has said that all or even most of the turd mist stays in the bathroom.
      Have you ever seen street trash follow a passing automobile? Imagine your shit plume following you out of the bathroom.
      No one has mentioned air-flow in the home and how this affects the vapor plume.You are making assumptions without nearly enough information to say anything of value at all.
      If you don’t understand that even with the lid down your toilet is not hermetically sealed, you should not do biology.

      You haven’t won in this thread, not once.

      You persist in trying to make this an all or nothing proposition when in reality it is neither.

      Jul 21, 2008 at 5:28 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.22   jamo

      “If you don’t understand that even with the lid down your toilet is not hermetically sealed”

      They won’t stop the mist but they could help restrict it. I never implied they were sealed nor did I say they would block the mist entirely. Can you prove it doesn’t help block it at all.

      “A valid hypothesis which they did not test…pure conjecture.”

      The source did mention it when you stated that it did not. Thats another fail.

      “You have not one actual fact to hang your hat on.”

      Don’t use quotes from my source if they aren’t factual.

      “By saying I “can” avoid it, you’re saying that by doing something I “would” avoid it.”

      You can avoid it, use the forensic clean room.

      “by saying “C_B, you can avoid it by not keeping it near a toilet.” ”

      Be proud C_B, that’s a minor win for you-my 2am, chronic induced fail. I did, however, give you an example of where you can keep it to avoid crapmist. Therefore it stands that you can avoid it. Your comments 136.15, 136.16 and 136.17 are void.

      “You persist in trying to make this an all or nothing proposition”

      Not at all. I wanted to clarify the Mythbusters claims. I’ve had to defend against unwarranted attacks and insults in the face of reason since.

      “Normally it would not take me so many posts to get my point across, but you’re quite obtuse.”

      Surely that makes you obtuse? You’re probably not. I think you just wanted to up the comment count.

      For your minor win I award you a modicum of respect. It’s a shame you had to pick apart my syntax to get it but i guess it beats nothing.

      It’s been fun to have this petty debate. I don’t mind waiting for you to find fault with what I have said but please actually find a fault.

      Jul 21, 2008 at 5:53 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.23   Canthz_B bang

      I don’t have to prove anything. You made an assertion.
      All I’ve done is to ask you to back it up with any real, scientifically verified facts you may have.
      Honestly, ‘m not angry.

      A certainty: “It can (be avoided): keep your toothbrush in a different room to your toilet. Where’s the misinformation?”

      A certainty: “C_B, you can avoid it by not keeping it near a toilet.”

      A retreat: “in my original bait, i said “COULD” which implies possibility not certainty.”

      A delusion: You haven’t won in this thread, not once.

      Kidz R kooky! :-D

      Jul 21, 2008 at 6:07 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.24   Canthz_B bang

      I didn’t have to pick apart your syntax.
      You did that as you scurried for cover, hiding behind small meanings in words.

      What I said is that your source did not mention avoidance. It did mention that a lid may yield a different outcome, but it DID NOT speculate on what that outcome may be…you assumed that. To use your term…FAIL.
      I never said that your source was not factual, I thank you for it in fact, it’s just that you are trying to misuse, or at the very least you are misinterpreting, what you source says. I will continue to quote any valid source I come across.
      No need for a clean room, buy a toothbrush case.
      My comments are not void because our discussion is about germs in the home, not about whether a germ-free environment can be found on planet Earth.
      You went about clarifying the Mythbusters claims by misusing what they reported, by reading into their report conclusions which they never made. FAIL on that portion of the score.
      You made clear, as had previously been done on the thread, that some exaggerated comments had been made about the Mythbusters investigation.
      That could have been accomplished by simply posting your original link. ;-)

      Jul 21, 2008 at 6:32 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.25   jamo

      CB – “You have not one actual fact to hang your hat on.”

      CB – “I never said that your source was not factual”

      Needs no comment.

      “My comments are not void because our discussion is about germs in the home, not about whether a germ-free environment can be found on planet Earth.”

      Comments are void as I have provided a case whereby you can avoid the mist. They would have been sustained had I said Mythbusters mentioned avoidance. I did state 136.14 that they didn’t so 3 posts repeating that statement seem void.

      “What I said is that your source did not mention avoidance.”

      That is correct. I mentioned avoidance and backed it up with a (rather extreme) way to avoid : the clean room.

      “No need for a clean room, buy a toothbrush case.”

      Is that another method of avoidance? I hope you meant a hermetically sealed case. It’d be a shame for you to come up with a better method of avoidance than me.

      “That could have been accomplished by simply posting your original link.”

      Yeah thats true. I just couldn’t resist posting a PAN on PAN.com. If I hadn’t then we wouldn’t have had the chance to air our thoughts. Likewise you didn’t have to throw insults my way upon reading the post. You did, however, and (to your credit) went on to admit my source material was relevant and correct.

      “You went about clarifying the Mythbusters claims by misusing what they reported, by reading into their report conclusions which they never made.”

      I quoted them in context. The experiment was about finding fecal matter on bathroom items. My chosen quote said that different results were expected should a lid have been used/closed. The only way the results they take could differ would be more fecal matter or less fecal matter. This remains an assumption but it’s reasonable to think that the lid would cause less fecal matter to be distributed. There was no misuse.

      Finally:

      ” A retreat: “in my original bait, i said “COULD” which implies possibility not certainty.” ”

      I said ‘could’ knowing that, had they known that it does in fact spray, people probably wouldn’t have done anything about it. You have taken that out of context and are trying to make it seem that I said “Mythbusters say its avoidable!” which is just not correct nor what I stated.

      While I hate the PAN I feel for the subject matter. I’m happy to talk facts and shitmist all day and thank you for keeping the thread alive. I must say how much more intelligent your posts seem when you ease off the insults…they do little to back up your argument. Asides from the insults, it’s been fun.

      You gonna start closing the lid now?

      Jul 21, 2008 at 7:50 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.26   Canthz_B bang

      Talk about context!
      The “not one actual fact to hang your hat on” referred to your assertion of avoidance. Something you still have not addressed seriously, just as an absurd aside referencing clean rooms. No mention of air flow in the home from the likes of you. No mention of quantitative values for the amount of fecal matter expelled from a toilet flush. No mention of anything remotely worthy of serious discussion.
      Never have I dismissed the facts of the mythbusters report, which I have never disputed. I only dispute your twisting or misinterpretation of the facts they posted in an attempt to draw conclusions they never drew.

      My toothbrush case screws shut. I’m happy with it as I have been for years.
      I keep hydrogen peroxide in it with my toothbrush.

      Beyond that others can read this thread for themselves.

      Keep your parsing and twisting of words as a debating tactic for someone more gullible and easily lead away from the core idea of the debate than myself.
      Been there, done that…probably before you were born, Spike. ;-)

      Jul 21, 2008 at 8:34 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.27   Canthz_B bang

      “I said could, but I should have said would, now I meant to say could”!

      You’re making people dizzy!! :-D

      Jul 21, 2008 at 8:42 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.28   Canthz_B bang

      and are trying to make it seem that I said “Mythbusters say its avoidable!” which is just not correct nor what I stated.

      I’m not trying to make it seem that you said mythbusters said “avoidable”. I’m pointing out that you yourself made that assertion, not mythbusters. You came up with that load of crap all by your lonesome:

      C_B, you can avoid it by not keeping it near a toilet.

      “It can (be avoided): keep your toothbrush in a different room to your toilet. Where’s the misinformation?”

      I pointed out in #136.1 that:
      CONFIRMED
      Fecal coliforms were indeed found on all the test brushes, including the control ones. However, none were of a level high enough to be dangerous, and experts confirm that such coliforms were impossible to completely avoid.

      BTW, do you understand what a control is in an experiment?
      The controls would have had to be outside of the test area. Therefore, they were NOT in the bathroom.

      Jul 21, 2008 at 8:59 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.29   Mishee bang

      Once again the “Arguing on the Internet/Winning the Special Olympics” parallel has been proven.

      (And I am not talking about CB)

      I can’t wait for the end of August.

      Team School’s Back In Session!!

      Jul 21, 2008 at 9:18 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.30   Canthz_B bang

      Amen, Sister.
      These kidz are so transparent and they forget so soon what they have already said.
      They are cute though when they actually think you’re upset.
      I guess their peers get upset and flustered by having their words twisted and then used against them so they think that’s how the world is.

      Jul 21, 2008 at 9:27 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.31   jamo

      “I said could, but I should have said would, now I meant to say could”

      Is that a quote or are you paraphrasing? You certainly made it look like a quote which is pretty underhand and rather indicative of your discussion technique.

      “Keep your parsing and twisting of words as a debating tactic for someone more gullible and easily lead away from the core idea of the debate than myself.”

      Right back at ya. You’ve consistently writhed away from the core of the subject, misquoted me and generally gone out of your way to pick at small points when the fact remains that I haven’t misused any facts or provided incorrect information.

      “I only dispute your twisting or misinterpretation of the facts they posted in an attempt to draw conclusions they never drew.”

      Read the source one more time (properly, please) They don’t post that as a fact, its under Fan Feedback (you’re never too old to go back to school, C_B, focus on your comprehension). Why state I twisted their facts when I didn’t reference the post when mentioning avoidance and it’s not even their fact. I referenced that to show it was not a complete experiment not to prove avoidance.

      “You came up with that load of crap all by your lonesome”

      First I’m twisting Mythbusters then I’m making it all up myself. No wonder you’re dizzy.

      “your assertion of avoidance. Something you still have not addressed seriously”

      How many examples of methods to avoid this do you want? Surely one proves you can avoid it. It can be avoided. People can avoid it. Consider that point addressed and re-addressed.

      “including the control ones.”

      This has been about avoiding the spray from your toilet getting on your toothbrush, not avoiding the trace amounts of fecal matter in the atmosphere. Control brushes must be kept separate from the experiment so irrelevant. Nice try but nope.

      “experts confirm that such coliforms were impossible to completely avoid”

      Shit is everywhere. You can’t avoid it. You can avoid dosing your toothbrush every time you flush your toilet.

      To finish off where I began,

      A flushing toilet will spray its contents around the room. You can avoid getting that spray on your toothbrush.

      Tell me what you think is wrong with that statement. The first sentence has been proven. The second sentence you seem to have a problem with. I have provided an example of a place to store your toothbrush where it avoids that spray/mist and that alone makes it avoidable.

      Do you still have a problem with my initial statement? Tell me clearly what is wrong with it and why. Don’t forget to read the previous posts before repeating yourself as I don’t want to have to copy and paste any more replies.

      Jul 21, 2008 at 10:38 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.32   Mishee bang

      jamo, I was totally gonna read your epic post, but to tell you the truth (cause I just hate lying!) – I soon lost interest in the project…

      I guess I just don’t know my own strength!

      Jul 21, 2008 at 10:48 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.33   amy d bang

      I say that you were both confusing and neither wins.

      Jul 21, 2008 at 11:16 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.34   jamo

      Can we both win?

      Losing interest: fair call. It was tough going but all giggles. Shoulda stopped ages ago but C_B is fun to discuss things with.

      Tough to debate points on the interweb, being baked doesn’t help…lets name the shitmist phenomenon and start a wiki page, we can cite refs and post over each others posts like mad…never be bored eh ;-)

      +1 for the honesty Mishee, +1 for the clarity amy_d

      Wonder if C_B is writing away right now?

      Jul 21, 2008 at 11:33 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.35   Mishee bang

      funny I don’t see a +1 at the bottom of my post.

      I guess you have no problem lying, eh?

      :D

      Jul 21, 2008 at 12:06 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.36   jamo

      Your v53.js gave errors.

      Don’t worry, you’ve been karmafied :-)

      Jul 21, 2008 at 3:33 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.37   jamo

      C_B,

      You got baited.

      Better luck next time…

      Jul 22, 2008 at 4:31 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #136.38   park rose bang

      I think the unitent is in order.

      Jul 22, 2008 at 6:29 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #137   Canthz_B bang

    If the room mate set up a food dispensing unit such that every time Marcus put the lid down he got a treat maybe, just maybe he’d happily comply.

    Jul 19, 2008 at 11:31 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #137.1   amazon bang

      I think BJ’s are a much better reward.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 7:16 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #138   killer-tofu

    Ok so this note is completely understandable because if you don’t close the lid before flushing the toilet, then all that nasty shit-water sprays up and gets all over the place. I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t want shit-water on my toothbrush!

    Also my cats like to play in the toilet if I leave the lid up so that’s a must-close situation right there. Otherwise, my cat could fall in and get soaked in toilet water and then come decide it’s play time on my lap! EWWWW!

    (Confession: Ok, so I just wanted to wear the unitard!)

    Jul 20, 2008 at 12:02 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #138.1   Canthz_B bang

      Wear it in good health. :-D

      Jul 20, 2008 at 12:05 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #138.2   Mishee bang

      *shoots self in head*

      Jeezy Creezy! I don’t think I am gonna make it through this weekend! CB are you keeping a waiting list of people in line for the Uniturd?

      Jul 20, 2008 at 12:11 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #138.3   Canthz_B bang

      No. I say we start shooting them in the head!

      Jul 20, 2008 at 12:32 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #138.4   killer-tofu

      I hear it’s roomy… so taking a dump won’t be a problem? Or should I save my big jobs for the urinal? Or was that the shower? Maybe the sink? Do I need to get the key from Casey in Hr?

      This is too confusing! If someone could write me a note, that would be great!

      Jul 20, 2008 at 12:33 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #138.5   Canthz_B bang

      It used to be roomy, but thanks to a proliferation of assholes on the site potential wearers space is at a premium.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 12:39 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #138.6   Troy McClure bang

      I may have a solution: The Unitent.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 1:54 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #138.7   Mishee bang

      I have one word for your solution Troy:

      PASHY!

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:06 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #138.8   park rose bang

      The brilliant intent of your unitent goes applauded, and I think I see the first victim candidate :mrgreen:

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:53 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #139   se

    This whole fecal matter on your toothbrush thing is bogus.
    Who here does not rinse their toothbrush immediately before they use it? Then who swallows when they are brushing? and I would imagine (maybe wrongly) that the natural bacteria in the human mouth, in saliva, would make quick work of invading bacteria that may survive or be left over after mouthwash, toothpaste and rinsing.

    Jul 20, 2008 at 12:26 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #139.1   Canthz_B bang

      Whether mouth bacteria do that or not…why worry about a few more when your mouth is already teeming with microscopic life?
      Only the ignorant are grossed out by any of this.
      But then again, ignorance is purported to be bliss. Who am I to upset their ignorance apple cart?

      Jul 20, 2008 at 12:35 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.2   Canthz_B bang

      They (mouth bacteria) do in fact do that by the way. Just one of the many symbiotic relationships that make human life possible.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 12:50 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.3   Mark bang

      An interesting statistic (and yes, I know what “they” say about statistics, but I really do believe this one and have some expertise in this subject)…

      If you were to homogenize all the cells in your body, that is mix all the cells in your body up into a uniform soup, and picked out a random cell from the soup, there is a 1 in 10 chance that that cell would bear your DNA. In other words, 9 in 10 cells in and on your own body are not your own, but are in fact bacteria.

      So everybody chill. Toilet water is really not all that disgusting. Deal with it, bitches.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 1:35 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.4   Mishee bang

      Mark – You lost me after statistic

      Don’t listen to RB! I am not all covered with bacteria! It wasn’t a cold sore, it was just a dry patch of skin!!!

      Jul 20, 2008 at 1:49 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.5   NoPunIntended bang

      Mark, as a microbiologist… I think I love you. Who do I have to kill to start the line behind you?

      Jul 20, 2008 at 12:24 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.6   Mishee bang

      I wouldn’t suggest trying to be at the head of the line… that wouldn’t be the smartest move for you at this juncture in your life…

      You can wait behind me… like I said before, when I am done with him, you can have your chance – if there is anything left when I am finished!!

      Jul 20, 2008 at 12:43 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.7   Mark bang

      Ladies, ladies! Calm down! You can BOTH get me a beer!

      *assumes NoPunIntended is a lady*

      Jul 20, 2008 at 12:52 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.8   Mishee bang

      Favorite.Episode.EVAR!

      *does NOT share – unless its with RB, cause that’s just “The More the Merrier”*

      Jul 20, 2008 at 12:57 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.9   Canthz_B bang

      Vut am I? Chopped livah? :mrgreen:

      Jul 20, 2008 at 1:42 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.10   Mishee bang

      CB – you are like my big, assertive, sometimes pushy and a little manic brother… just like one of my IRL brothers said one time “I can fuck with her all I want, but someone else says something and they are toast!” (but I do admit, I like you more than most of my brothers!)

      But either way, I do lurve you!! :D

      Jul 20, 2008 at 1:45 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.11   NoPunIntended bang

      No offense Canthz but I heard you’ve been with both RB and Mishee… they’re not really my type, if you catch my drift.

      Mishee you can’t hog all of the available men…can you?

      Mark… I’m definitely not a lady… but still female. ;)

      Jul 20, 2008 at 1:48 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.12   Mishee bang

      NoPun, yes I can… it’s in the bylaws somewhere. CB has never been with me, I am too annoying for his taste…

      Now, he and RB, I believe I heard some mention one time of them wanting to make a mixed race baby, but I was never updated on the situation! :D

      And I don’t have all the available men – RB laid claim on sout and so I backed off (their potty humor compliments each other well!) and I haven’t laid claim on Timo, yet – but it may come time soon! :-P Just claw, and Mark… and Kev, and maybe a few others I forgot about at the moment… but ummm…. you can just wait in line… there are a few people in front of you though! :(

      Jul 20, 2008 at 1:57 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.13   NoPunIntended bang

      Then I must resign myself to wait rather impatiently for Mark…

      However if you should find yourself a little under-the-weather… do not blame me.

      Nasty little bacteria… ha ha ha!

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:11 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.14   Mishee bang

      *coughnopunhasherpescough*

      I saw you at the PAN fridge last week eating someone else’s Cherry Garcia! Don’t try to deny it, I have photos!! :D

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:16 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.15   NoPunIntended bang

      Everyone’s got herpes… but lucky for Mark my cold sore has cleared up.

      (Hey CB is there a code for either herpes or coldsores?)

      Mishee you should be very scared… have you ever heard of Eboli before?
      Probably not, since I’m going to go and concoct some in the lab… but be afraid, very afraid.

      And not to be completely obtuse but how the fuck do you get italicized text… I must be a bloody idiot.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:22 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.16   NoPunIntended bang

      tada!!! PhD to the rescue! Not a bloody idiot anymore.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:29 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.17   Mishee bang

      Dustin Hoffman and Cuba Gooding, Jr. to the rescue!

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:35 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.18   Canthz_B bang

      054.10 = genital herpes
      054.9 = coldsore

      This post = comment #500!! ;-)

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:41 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.19   Mishee bang

      Thank you CB,

      *coughnopunbas054.10cough*

      That sounds so much better! :D

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:44 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.20   NoPunIntended bang

      What would you like as your prize CB?

      I’ll be happy to be of service

      Edit- Don’t listen to Mishee… 054.9 is not the same as genital herpes… besides all I did was steal icecream, I didn’t have sex with it.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:45 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.21   Canthz_B bang

      Well, since according to Mishee’s Dx you don’t have a coldsore… :-P

      Oh, no! An admission on the back edit!
      I know they are different strains of the virus, but still…I’m not comfortable. LOL

      I’ll settle for an ice cream.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:49 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.22   NoPunIntended bang

      Who’s the Dr. here?

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:50 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.23   Mishee bang

      I can be a Doctor, but there is only one prescription I like!

      for you, the best tonic is chronic

      Hee hee.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:53 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.24   NoPunIntended bang

      Don’t you worry Mishee, I’m not trying to steal your spot as queen bitch (No offense, seriously).
      Just trying to get noticed… and get with Mark.

      I’d say it’s been accomplished, well partly… I’m still waiting impatiently for the rest

      All right CB… but you aren’t having any cherries then.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:56 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.25   Canthz_B bang

      Eboli?
      Are you attempting to splice Ebola virus DNA into E. coli bacteria?

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:58 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.26   Mark bang

      The only prescription is more cowbell.

      NPI, you are third in line. Glo, then Mish, then you. Unless we want to do a freaky four-way thing. But then there’s the “cold sore” issue…

      Jul 20, 2008 at 3:01 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.27   NoPunIntended bang

      That is exactly my evil plan for Mishee!
      *only problem remains… where to get the Ebola…*

      Plus it has this really fabulous name… don’t you think?

      Jul 20, 2008 at 3:03 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.28   Mishee bang

      None Taken

      I am such the Queen Bitch that I have tasters! LOL

      Jul 20, 2008 at 3:06 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.29   NoPunIntended bang

      Mark, I think I’ll pass on the freakiness… I’ll leave that to the dirty ones. I’ll wait for you when they are through, after a prescribed waiting period for you to pass through quarantine. Just to be on the safe side you know. ;)

      Jul 20, 2008 at 3:07 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.30   Canthz_B bang

      Not so fast, Mark. There is the matter of the ice cream to consider.

      Eboli is a better name than soft drink-sounding E. cola!

      Jul 20, 2008 at 3:08 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.31   Claire

      Wait! If you will scroll up, albeit several comments ago, I had declared my love for Mark due to his flawless spelling and intelligent, witty banter. Perhaps a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors, Mark?

      I work for a law firm…it is refreshing to meet a man who obiviously knows his way around germs and is not afraid to share this infinite knowledge….

      Jul 21, 2008 at 12:47 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #139.32   Kev Orng

      There are one or two points in this thread that might raise some flags with my wife!

      Jul 21, 2008 at 11:09 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #140   Aeternum

    not that big a deal, then again i’m the kind of chick that doesn’t care if the seat is left up as well.

    Jul 20, 2008 at 2:39 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #141   Shannon

    We keep the lid closed on the toilet in my house but that’s because we have a cat and when we first got him he fell into the toilet on several occasions. But otherwise, I don’t think it’s a big deal. Unless there’s a specific reason for closing it (like an idiotic cat) I don’t think it should be an issue.

    Jul 20, 2008 at 2:45 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #141.1   park rose bang

      Step right up. :D

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:57 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #141.2   Canthz_B bang

      Three cheers for the Unitent!

      How soon can we get that sucker set up? :-)

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:15 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #141.3   Mishee bang

      Actually I have to admit I have an idea for a little tweak on the Unitent© tell me what you think….
      Unitent© 2.0

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:22 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #141.4   Mark bang

      Three cheers! Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!

      Me likey teh unitent.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 2:33 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #141.5   Canthz_B bang

      I plussed you, mishee.
      Even though copyright should be trademark. ® or ™

      Jul 20, 2008 at 5:02 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #141.6   Timo

      The stripes are a perfect touch. Very clownish in a Gacy sort of way.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 5:35 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #141.7   amazon bang

      Please don’t unitent your house for bugs. It is very barbaric. Try 1-800-orangeoil, or some rosemary.

      Jul 20, 2008 at 7:22 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #142   maytagman

    Team Close The Lid!

    Jul 20, 2008 at 3:24 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up </