silent protest

January 27th, 2009 · 100 comments

tara in vancouver organized a meetup for “progressive, radical and lefty librarians” at a place called subeez cafe. it wasn’t until afterwards — when she took a look at the contact sheet she’d passed around — that she realized at least one attendee was less-than-pleased with her choice of venue.

“they didn’t complain to me directly, they didn’t even write it on the front of the paper,” seethes tara. “were they hoping for a bucket of hummus at a squat?”

silent protest

related: a matter of taste

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100 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Robert

    whats a squat?

    Jan 27, 2009 at 12:35 am   rating: 0  

    • #1.1   VentureSister

      Robert, a squat is when all the hippies get in a circle, take a dump and analyze each others feces to see who eat the most raw, organic vegetables. Believe me, I’ve seen it done. It’s not pretty. Mishee’s mom swore it was her first time, but she seemed pretty adept at distinguishing organic corn from non.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 12:43 am   rating: +46  

       
    • #1.2   leftfoot

      an abandoned property where people live without owning or paying rent.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 12:44 am   rating: +12  

       
    • #1.3   Kate

      If you’re actually interested a squat is an abandoned property that hippie types live in. In some places if they live in it long enough without being evicted they actually end up owning the property. And then they have to kill themselves for being bourgeois

      Jan 27, 2009 at 12:45 am   rating: +53  

       
    • #1.4   unfortunate names

      no, i’m pretty sure it is more along VentureSister’s fecal explanantion

      Jan 27, 2009 at 7:57 pm   rating: +1  

       
    • #1.5   Mishee

      Venture, I don’t know who the fuck you are.

      And neither does my mom.

      It must’ve been your own mom you are talking about.

      Jan 28, 2009 at 10:31 am   rating: +3  

       
     
  • #2   Canthz_B

    “Subeez is neither radical or progressive!”

    No, it’s Kosher, but a librarian who can’t use or/nor correctly surely must be both radical and progressive.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 12:44 am   rating: +56  

    • #2.1   Heather

      THANK YOU. Just what I was about to say. Either/or and neither/nor – pretty basic grammar.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 12:50 am   rating: +7  

       
    • #2.2   Wolverine Girl

      Thanks for the translation, Canthz B. All I could see was “Subeez is mither sordical ar proyrecsivc!”

      Jan 27, 2009 at 12:57 am   rating: +19  

       
    • #2.3   morpho aurora

      but they’re radical and progressive! they can’t be held back by your narrow-minded, conformist views.

      :P

      wolverine – i thought it said mishee

      Jan 27, 2009 at 12:58 am   rating: +4  

       
    • #2.4   snee

      snee, who is a trained (radical and progressive) librarian, unpins her hair from its bun and throws her glasses to the floor.

      if you keep raising your voices, kids, i’ll abuse more than the neither/nor rule. and then we’ll discuss the penalty for that overdue periodical.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 2:11 am   rating: +20  

       
    • #2.5   Saysh

      OOh Snee. I LIKE this side of you.

      I think I have a job for you, if you are interested. I have an opening in my dungeon…

      Jan 27, 2009 at 3:43 am   rating: +2  

       
    • #2.6   Mike

      Is it bad that I know where “Subeez” is located?

      Jan 27, 2009 at 3:46 am   rating: +2  

       
    • #2.7   Canthz_B

      Um,we all know.
      There’s a link up there. ;-)

      Jan 27, 2009 at 8:16 am   rating: +3  

       
    • #2.8   Joe

      But the writer doesn’t accuse the cafe of not being lefty — and rightly so! The menu does indeed include hummus, as well as organic ingredients and more varieties of plant leaves than I knew existed. But I guess that stuff’s all popular now, so the radical, progressive left has to abandon it.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 9:53 am   rating: +8  

       
    • #2.9   Lisa

      Exactly what I came here to say. Who made this chick a librarian?!?

      Jan 27, 2009 at 12:06 pm   rating: +2  

       
    • #2.10   feygele

      @Canthz_B, Subeez certainly is not kosher.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 3:09 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #2.11   Canthz_B

      Feygele, the beauty of comedy is that is taken best when it is not taken literally. :-)

      Jan 27, 2009 at 8:25 pm   rating: +1  

       
    • #2.12   aaa

      BUT BUT BUT, IT’S THE INTERNET AND I MUST TAKE EVERYTHING ON IT TEHEH SERIOUSLY! OR ELSE! I might die if I don’t, y’know.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 10:56 pm   rating: +1  

       
     
  • #3   nestchick

    I would assume “sub-ease” would be a place for BDSM.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 12:51 am   rating: +3  

    • #3.1   TheOldSchool

      Apparently, that’s exactly what it is:

      http://www.subeez.com/

      Jan 27, 2009 at 1:11 am   rating: 0  

       
    • #3.2   Joe

      That website plays a 5-second loop of music over and over. So formulaic. Definitely not progressive.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 9:47 am   rating: +3  

       
     
  • #4   TheOldSchool

    Holy Shhhhhhhhhit.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 12:59 am   rating: +3  

     
  • #5   HairySwede

    personally, I am disgusted this group was unable to conform to the non-conformists idea of non-conformity as progressive, radical, and lefty librarians

    Jan 27, 2009 at 1:10 am   rating: +22  

     
  • #6   zenvelo

    radical librarians decry alphabetization as the old paradigm. progressive librarians consider fiction as an artificial construct.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 1:12 am   rating: +20  

     
  • #7   TheOldSchool

    I wonder what their sex lives are like?

    Hellcats, probably. Screamers, definitely. It all adds up.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 1:24 am   rating: +4  

    • #7.1   RandyinReno

      Neither hellcats nor screamers. A mediocre tantric experience in all likelihood.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 1:37 am   rating: +5  

       
    • #7.2   TheOldSchool

      A-hem….Randy, I think we should be very careful about tossing out stereotypes like they’re edible condoms at the Rose Bowl Parade.

      Some of us prefer to make up our minds about people until AFTER we’ve fucked them, not BEFORE.

      (Or, given today’s hectic lifestyles, a case could be made for DURING.)

      Jan 27, 2009 at 1:57 am   rating: +8  

       
    • #7.3   RandyinReno

      TOS,

      Agree that we should avoid stereotyping.

      The odds are against having fucked these specific liberal librarians. Based on the sum of experience with other liberal librarians, however, I’ll stick with my statement that it was probably a tantric episode, and not a stellar one at that.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 2:56 am   rating: +3  

       
     
  • #8   TheOldSchool

    What’s the Dewey Decimal Code for “Butt Pirate?”

    I’m due for a action packed swishbuckler.

    Salty cavaliers strutting and mincing about in their silver buckled shoes! Bury me treasure, indeed!

    Jan 27, 2009 at 1:31 am   rating: +13  

    • #8.1   RandyinReno

      Oh no, you are looking for the progressive, liberal, and swishy librarians group.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 1:38 am   rating: +9  

       
    • #8.2   snee

      *ahem*

      306.766

      Jan 27, 2009 at 2:18 am   rating: +17  

       
    • #8.3   Kansas girl

      So how about the Library of Congress classification? Equal opportunity, right?

      Jan 27, 2009 at 12:40 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #8.4   Kansas Librarian

      HQ76

      Jan 27, 2009 at 6:48 pm   rating: +3  

       
    • #8.5   Craniac

      The Dewey Decimal System is so passe, not radical or progressive at all, as all librarians know these days.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 10:39 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #9   TheOldSchool

    If I were ever murdered in a library, I guess it wouldn’t be asking too much to hope that, at the very least, my death could occur in a section where there are some relatively popular books, so that my remains would be discovered in a somewhat timely manner.

    The area with the pictorial breastfeeding books would be best because it’s always crowded with pre-teen boys keen to learn all they can about parenting.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 1:46 am   rating: +3  

    • #9.1   RandyinReno

      Or the periodicals section.

      National Geographic.

      Tell me that you didn’t.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 2:59 am   rating: +2  

       
    • #9.2   aaa

      Okay, so I skimmed through that last paragraph in #9 really quickly the first go round, and now I have a mental image of gawky, pubescent boys breastfeeding (as in being the ones lactating). Yeah…

      Jan 27, 2009 at 7:35 am   rating: +3  

       
     
  • #10   aaa

    Well, Subeez certainly seems like an annoyingly pretentious place and people who claim to be progressive, radical, and lefty are often annoying and pretentious. I’d say it’s a perfect fit.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 3:02 am   rating: +11  

     
  • #11   Jennie

    The real question: What the hell is up with the music on the Subeez site?

    Jan 27, 2009 at 3:48 am   rating: +5  

    • #11.1   teeg

      I’m wondering what’s up with the NAME? I had never heard of it (not living in Vancouver) so I assumed it was a submarine joint. Is it pronounced Sub-eez or Soo-beez? I guess I am forced to admit: I neither know or really care.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 6:19 am   rating: +6  

       
    • #11.2   claw71

      I’m wondering what’s up with not clicking the link. Rather than waste a good comment bubble on an idle rambling you could have informed yourself and moved on.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 6:39 am   rating: +2  

       
    • #11.3   amy d

      Anyplace that has “cajun” items on the menu is ok by me.

      Claw, where do they show the correct pronunciation of the cafe’ name on their site?

      Jan 27, 2009 at 9:19 am   rating: +3  

       
    • #11.4   vancouverite

      Soo-beez. They’re not that great.

      The same business also has a restaurant on Commercial Drive called Wazubees (wah-zoo-beez). Its food is better.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 5:18 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #12   claw71

    Generally speaking,” meetups” are neither radical nor progressive. I’ve been to a few and realized that a “meetup” is really just a bohemian word for “a bunch of pseudo intellectuals getting together to try to sound more important the one another”.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 6:45 am   rating: +17  

     
  • #13   anglophile

    Discuss amongst yourselves. I’m all verklempt.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 7:45 am   rating: +8  

    • #13.1   Wade

      Topic: “Subeez is neither radical or progressive.”

      Discuss.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 7:47 am   rating: +10  

       
     
  • #14   Woman on the Verge

    Just what is this splinter cell of radical librarians going to discuss at their meetup? The overthrow of the entire computerized catalog thereby forcing our children to learn how to use the cumbersome and time-consuming card catalog system? Or was it just an excuse to giggle over the funniest Dewey Decimal codes (000 for computers!? – paranormal is in the 13 area? – just why is ceramic technology 666?)

    Jan 27, 2009 at 7:47 am   rating: +20  

    • #14.1   Wade

      And at the table next to them, a group of reactionary and regressive engineers, seeking the reinstatement of the slide rule.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 7:51 am   rating: +22  

       
    • #14.2   Ti O

      September Slide Rulists!~

      ———FTW!!!—————-

      Jan 27, 2009 at 2:44 pm   rating: +5  

       
     
  • #15   C

    Looks like Subeez is two-for-two, then. Good for them.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 8:04 am   rating: +3  

     
  • #16   amy d

    “subeez in neither radical or progressive”

    On the other hand, my hand writing is radically hard to read and progressively getting worse.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 8:29 am   rating: +24  

     
  • #17   anglophile

    She’s got a bit of a point. A place that bills itself as “eclectic, energetic and friendly” might be too pretentious for radical and progressive librarians.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 8:36 am   rating: +5  

     
  • #18   QuarterRoy00

    Your hand-writing is neither legible or interesting…

    Jan 27, 2009 at 8:42 am   rating: +6  

     
  • #19   KD

    I’ve been working at a university for 20+ years and I’ve always thought the job titles at the library should be Disgruntled Library Assistant I, Disgruntled Library Assistant II, etc. At least that would make it official.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 8:58 am   rating: +8  

    • #19.1   Mark

      Hell, they’re all disgruntled. I ain’t running no damn daisy farm. My motto is “Do it my way or watch your butt!”

      Jan 27, 2009 at 11:09 am   rating: +8  

       
    • #19.2   Sirius

      Son, you got a panty on yore head.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 12:45 pm   rating: +7  

       
    • #19.3   aaa

      And here I was thinking I was the only one who remembered Raising Arizona…

      Jan 27, 2009 at 2:12 pm   rating: +2  

       
    • #19.4   Ti O

      We released ourselves on our own recognizance.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 2:47 pm   rating: +7  

       
    • #19.5   aaa

      “Why do you say you feel ‘trapped’ in a man’s body?”

      “Well, sometimes I get the menstrual cramps real hard.”

      Jan 27, 2009 at 3:44 pm   rating: +5  

       
    • #19.6   aaa

      “…and when there was no meat, we ate fowl and when there was no fowl, we ate crawdad and when there was no crawdad to be found, we ate sand.”

      “You ate what?”

      “We ate sand.”

      *pause*

      “You ate SAND?”

      “That’s right.”

      Jan 27, 2009 at 11:10 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #20   better on paper

    I think this note writer should head on down to the mall, their likely to find a group of really cool teenagers dressed all in black who totally know what it’s like to be radical and progressive. Not like those jocks on the other side of the food court…

    Jan 27, 2009 at 9:16 am   rating: +5  

     
  • #21   amy d

    I hate lefties. They get all pretentious just because they use a different hand than 90% of the population. They get together to whine about “Rightie” keeping them down.

    Righties are people too!

    Jan 27, 2009 at 9:22 am   rating: +20  

    • #21.1   Mark

      But only lefties are in their right mind.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 11:14 am   rating: +11  

       
    • #21.2   Ti O

      All left handed people look the same…. oh ….nevermind. :razz:
      Left handers spray fecal mist and never tip hardworking waitresses whilst kicking edible chinese cats.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 2:49 pm   rating: +8  

       
    • #21.3   Mishee

      Mark is the one who got this one “right”…

      Jan 27, 2009 at 4:15 pm   rating: +4  

       
     
  • #22   GhostWriter

    An attendee didn’t right that line. It was scribbled down by the harried waitress who had to juggle eight different herbal tea orders, each requesting “free refills” and earning her a 5% tip.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 9:38 am   rating: +2  

    • #22.1   chance

      She’s lucky they gave her a tip at all. I think waitstaff should have to work for that tip, I mean, it is a “gratuity” after all. What do you think?

      *shakes with evil laughter*

      Jan 27, 2009 at 11:17 am   rating: +2  

       
    • #22.2   amy d

      I always tip, mainly because I only carry larger bills and I don’t want them to give me any change from their tip stash. You just know that when they go to the bathroom, the fecal mist gets all over those bills.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 11:35 am   rating: +4  

       
    • #22.3   Mishee

      Mythbusters proved that it can get on your toothbrush too.. even if it’s all the way in the kitchen!

      Jan 27, 2009 at 11:47 am   rating: +3  

       
    • #22.4   Ti O

      I am just worried that they used that well worn Washington as a napkin when they sat down to eat that Herro Kitty burrito in the kitchen.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 2:51 pm   rating: +2  

       
     
  • #23   TPS

    This is why I don’t borrow books.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 9:51 am   rating: +2  

     
  • #24   Andy

    Sordical is an interesting worderation!

    Jan 27, 2009 at 11:04 am   rating: +3  

    • #24.1   Mark

      What’s wrong with it? It’s a perfectly cromulent word…

      Jan 27, 2009 at 12:43 pm   rating: +14  

       
    • #24.2   canadian deadhead

      Full marks for getting ‘cromulent’ into the thread. God bless Edna Krabappel!

      Jan 27, 2009 at 1:25 pm   rating: +1  

       
    • #24.3   Vampy

      It was Miss Hoover who used the word ‘cromulent’ when Mrs. Kabappel questioned ‘embiggens’. So it’s God bless Miss Hoover, not Krabappel.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 5:29 pm   rating: 0  

       
    • #24.4   Mark

      May FSM bless them both! I bet Ms Krabappel would love to get touched by His noodly appendage.

      I bent my wookiee. :(

      Jan 27, 2009 at 5:39 pm   rating: +5  

       
    • #24.5   Wolverine Girl

      Mark, you’ve certainly embiggened this thread.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 7:42 pm   rating: +2  

       
     
  • #25   GhostWriter

    Subeez, Drumoz and Hogerz are three cafés. They can be described as: lefty, radical, progressive, rightist, conservative, free-market, laissez faire and/or libertarian.

    Subeez is neither radical nor progressive!

    Hogerz is either laissez faire or libertarian.

    Drumoz is both rightist and conservative.

    The café that is Lefty is also Rightist.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 1:02 pm   rating: +15  

    • #25.1   Olivia

      Someone’d better flow-chart this shit.

      Jan 27, 2009 at 1:16 pm   rating: +5  

       
     
  • #26   Emma

    How disgusting. The meeting might as well have been at Starbucks.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 1:48 pm   rating: +7  

     
  • #27   MARSHA

    SQUATTER IS WAY BEFORE HIPPIES.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 3:00 pm   rating: 0  

    • #27.1   Canthz_B

      Are you still bragging about that trip cross country in a VW van, and how you and your commune buddies plotted to blow up a Lucky Strike factory to end the war in Viet Nam?

      Jan 28, 2009 at 12:49 am   rating: +1  

       
     
  • #28   racerx22

    This whole thread makes me wonder what the definition of “is” really is .

    Jan 27, 2009 at 3:13 pm   rating: +2  

     
  • #29   Julie

    I have to believe this is the ultimate exercise in passive aggression. The librarian in question KNEW where the meeting was happening. “SUBEEZ!” she snorted, “That is not radical OR progressive!” She then hatched a plan to attend this meeting with the express purpose of writing this note. After the meeting she went home and took a bubble bath, then regaled her miserable husband with her tale. “You won’t BELIEVE the note I wrote today!” she will begin. And his brain will shut off because he has already heard this story from her dozens of times.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 3:33 pm   rating: +9  

     
  • #30   Rocky

    After looking at the menu at Subeez, I discovered that they don’t call it Canadian bacon in Canada.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 3:58 pm   rating: +2  

     
  • #31   Themiki

    Isn’t Subeez that infomercial product from the mid-nineties that allows you to cut your hair with your vaccuum cleaner? I would consider that concept both radical and progressive.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 4:57 pm   rating: +2  

    • #31.1   stephanickety

      No, that would be the ever popular Flowbee…

      Jan 27, 2009 at 6:12 pm   rating: +2  

       
     
  • #32   Olivia

    I wonder if that radical dissenter is also the kind of librarian who would use whips and chains if I were to return my books late.

    I also wonder how hard it would be to get a Vancouver library card in order to find out.

    Jan 27, 2009 at 6:14 pm   rating: +1  

     
  • #33   Anon

    I live in Vancouver, and I’m happy to confirm that yes, what most people in Vancouver want is a bucket of hummus at a squat. =/

    Jan 27, 2009 at 6:58 pm   rating: +5  

    • #33.1   Geek Goddess

      That is certainly what the art students from Granville Island want. Don’t know about the hippies in Kitsilano, though

      Jan 27, 2009 at 7:42 pm   rating: +3  

       
     
  • #34   Peter

    The correct phrase is “neither radical NOR progressive.” A librarian wrote this?

    Jan 27, 2009 at 10:05 pm   rating: +1  

    • #34.1   Canthz_B

      Look up, Peter ↑ ;-)

      Jan 27, 2009 at 11:32 pm   rating: 0  

       
     
  • #35   Bunny

    awww..I <3 Subeez

    Jan 27, 2009 at 11:25 pm   rating: 0  

     
  • #36   Bunnee

    I do? (damn those gigglebrax fails!)

    Jan 28, 2009 at 2:01 pm   rating: 0  

     
  • #37   Crooky

    Ahahahaha. I used to hang out at Subeez in the mid-90s. They haven’t washed the floors or cleaned the toilet since then. I agree with the note.

    Jan 28, 2009 at 6:00 pm   rating: 0  

     
  • #38   mrs spanish

    hmmm….

    subete a mi moto!

    that just reminded of my old friend jlo. Julio Lopez.

    Seriously though, I am actually a certified librarian (not “libarian” dammit), but I can say that my people are generally socially awkward. Which is generally why we chose this profession to begin with.

    We are also mostly liberal. (I can attest to the fact that no work got done on inaguration day. Esp. myself because I consider Obama the closest I will ever get to a Latino President.) We were all busy crying and being hopeful and all except for the few jesus/fox news/born-again people.

    And yes, we would be douchbaggy and complain ’bout a place not being “radical” or whatsoever.

    Just go to library bar nyc and order something sexy. 649.65 baby.

    Seriously though, we are incredibly mistreated and underpaid, so we deserve the right to a little douchebaggy-ness.

    Jan 29, 2009 at 3:33 am   rating: +1  

     
  • #39   katy daus

    Vancouver is the birthplace of passive aggression.

    Jan 31, 2009 at 11:59 am   rating: 0  

     
  • #40   Kristi

    Am I the only local who actually LIKES Subeez? I mean, the food isn’t bad, although slightly overpriced, but the atmosphere is cool, they have some pretty decent art, the service is good and the bathrooms are funky (in a good way).

    I used to hang out there with friends after class a few years ago. Even had my birthday party there…they gave us free drinks.

    Feb 1, 2009 at 11:33 pm   rating: 0  

     
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