this is why the “seething and waiting” strategy will never get through to a messy roommate. (they are oblivious to your blind rage!)
to wit: laura lives in a four-person suite at boston college, where she says one of her suitemates, christin, is “a notorious neat freak.” what that meant was that christin and her roommate, amanda, cleaned the shared bathroom a lot. “kelsey and i never did, because they never let the bathroom reach a point where it was actually dirty.” they also never figured it was an issue, seeing as, uh, nobody ever mentioned that it was an issue. (“the number of times they have mentioned the state of the bathroom? ZERO.”) so laura and her roomie were a bit surprised, one day in february, to find this screed on the floor of their room.
related: letter from a narcotic
375 responses so far ↓
#1
TheOldSchool
How soon before the shit hits the shower floor?
Apr 8, 2009 at 8:35 pm rating: +24
#2
Canthz_B
At least she doesn’t expect them to clean the ceiling.
I love it when people with nasty personal habits get a PA note from someone who’s cleaner, and they tell the world how angry their nastiness has made someone.
I’d call it airing one’s dirty laundry, but I doubt Laura does much laundry.
Apr 8, 2009 at 8:41 pm rating: +43
#3
Canthz_B
Must have been like waiting for this economy to hit bottom.
Just when you think it can’t get any worse…SPLAT!!…toothpaste in the sink, make-up on the sink, and a roomie who thinks “…they never let the bathroom reach a point where it was actually dirty.”
What does this bitch need? Mud?
Apr 8, 2009 at 8:47 pm rating: +48
#4
Grossed Out
If Laura’s idea of a ‘notorious neat freak’ is someone who cleans a bathroom every two weeks, then I’d hate to see Laura’s idea of dirty.
Eww.
Apr 8, 2009 at 8:49 pm rating: +130
#5
Heather
The best response to this is to never clean the bathroom, at all. What’s she gonna do, more verbal diarrhea all over an innocent piece of paper?
(Also, this is why I broke down and hired a *weekly* maid…)
Apr 8, 2009 at 8:49 pm rating: +14
#6
Sheila
Why does she assume that being married means that the wife does the cleaning? Is it 1952 again?
Apr 8, 2009 at 8:54 pm rating: +84
#7
plausibletheories
What, no mention of Laura’s rocket pubes? Sorry, this is not anal-retentive enough for my standards.
Apr 8, 2009 at 8:57 pm rating: +24
#8
Beanster
* Imagines a world as a mini-person living in a hair brush. Loves this world *
Apr 8, 2009 at 8:57 pm rating: +31
#9
jfruh
That last bit about “great practice” is obviously incorrect. When Laura can finally find her own place, she will be happily living in her own filth, as will whatever slob-husband she manages to woo into her hair-clogged shower.
Apr 8, 2009 at 8:59 pm rating: +13
#10
lightspeed
What kind of showers does she take if she looks forward to them all day?
Maybe that’s the real problem, the messiness is ruining her special alone time….
Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 pm rating: +40
#11
lightspeed
I love how some roommates think that just because no one ever has said anything to them it’s totally cool to never ever do any cleaning in a shared area. No really, people LOVE to clean the bathroom, they love it so much they rush to do it before you get a chance. They really want the toilet scrubbing all to themselves, I’m sure.
Apr 8, 2009 at 9:14 pm rating: +28
#12
Laura (not the one who sent in this note)
I lived in a dorm with 4 girls and our communal bath got cleaned… once every couple months? I swept every couple weeks and that was all that it really needed. Unless you’re total pigs, it’s not like bathrooms get THAT dirty.
So basically, I’m on Laura’s side here. And not just because she has the same name as me.
Apr 8, 2009 at 9:14 pm rating: +19
#13
Grimfool_Reluctant
Amanda Please! (Sorry for the Nickolodean shoutout.)
Laura needs to get her head screwed on before the fecal mist really hits the fan. First, cleaning the bathroom every two weeks is not neat-freak behavior.
But even more so — as a happily-married husband who NEVER “cleans” the bathroom . . . there’s a big difference between putting on the rubber gloves and opening the bleach, and simply bending the fuck over to pick your own hair out of the shower drain! Even I know that! Same thing with toothpaste in the sink (I won’t touch it, but I will keep running water on it until it dissolves), and I can only assume it’s the same thing with wiping up your spilled cosmetics.
Jeez, Laura, what kind of pig are you? Do the frat guys all chase after you just one night a year?
Apr 8, 2009 at 9:24 pm rating: +15
#14
sarah
coming from a self proclaimed neat freak..cleaning once every two weeks is not neatfreak. Its called cleaning for the sake of being sanitary. I share a house with three other girls i know how much hair can accumulate in a house. And we have two washrooms, i can only imagine one washroom between four. Laura needs to get off her ass and clean
Apr 8, 2009 at 9:34 pm rating: +11
#15
subito
if I were Laura it would never be cleaned….I wouldn’t mind doing the cleaning but after being given a note like that…screw ‘em
Apr 8, 2009 at 9:56 pm rating: +4
#16
TheOldSchool
Totty potty cat fight!
Let the scratchin’ begin.
When is PAN going get hip to video? This kind of shit is pay-per-view gold. (Kerry: call me.)
Apr 8, 2009 at 9:56 pm rating: +1
#17
Julie F
“Or with your husband”?
What the fuck is that about. Maybe she thinks that once you’re married, you’re going to have to keep the bathroom clean, or your husband will write you pissy little notes about it.
Apr 8, 2009 at 9:57 pm rating: +16
#18
Wade
“…but there are other poopie in this sink with you”??!??
Ohhh! “people” “suite”
Must rage always lead to poor penmanship?
Apr 8, 2009 at 10:09 pm rating: +6
#19
Kristen
i live in a dorm with girls who leave stuff everywhere (PAINT in the showers, open boxes of sugar sitting out, makeup everywhere, cereal bowls in the bathroom that i assume they were going to ‘wash later’)
so this note…. sounds totally reasonable to me.
Apr 8, 2009 at 10:13 pm rating: +4
#20
Canthz_B
I blame Title IX.
Hey! They could make Home Economics a varsity sport. Then girls (and some special boys) from across the land would be motivated to get good at cookin’ ‘n cleanin’ n’ sewin’ n’ such in hopes of someday landing a job in the pros (the Home and Garden Channel)!
Apr 8, 2009 at 10:35 pm rating: +2
#21
Sarah
I think if this roommate had mentioned it at least once before, then she’d have the right to get pissed off. I’ve lived with a complete moron who had to be nagged *every time it was her goddamn turn* to just take out the trash, and also had to be forced to clean her own vomit up…so uh, sounds like if Laura was a reasonable human being, this note would be a nasty move form an evil bitch. But if Laura possesses a single digit IQ like my former roommate (and her sister, who happens to be named Laura), then I’m surprised her roommate hasn’t snapped and made some serious murder.
Apr 8, 2009 at 10:38 pm rating: +2
#22
shel
I don’t think this is all Laura’s fault… what about this 4th roomate? She is mentioned in the letter as a non-cleaner, but the letter is not directed at her…. Are all 3 of the other roomates bald? How is all of the hair Laura’s? Unless her hair is a completely different color (meaning dark brown/black vs all blondes etc) or if everybody else has super short hair, how do they know it’s all hers?? The same thing could go for the make up or the toothpaste… A more thorough investigation is necessary to form a solid opinion…
I guess I kinda want to be on Laura’s side, since I’ve experienced the neat freak roomate who couldn’t abide an unwashed cereal bowl for more than 12 hours… if only PAN.com existed 6 years ago… the pictures I could have taken…
I like ellipses…
Apr 8, 2009 at 10:45 pm rating: +6
#23
aaa
Here’s my prediction:
Laura and Kelsey really are disgusting pigs, and Christin and Amanda truly do have the societally-accepted standard of cleanliness, but Christin’s and Amanda’s parents never taught them to actually tell people when they have a problem with them. Like their parents (either divorced or they just hate each other), they expect people to psychically divine their thoughts and get really pissed when others don’t cooperate with their ideas of how the world should work. Thus, Laura and Kelsey have no clue that their piggishness isn’t appreciated by their other roommates, and thus are baffled when the note appears.
50% chance that Laura or Kelsey gets on here to clarify something we were supposed to divine from the invisible context in the note.
30% chance that Christin or Amanda gets on here to defend themselves.
15% chance of an all-out Pigs vs. Neat-freaks bitch-fest.
94% chance that the situation is far more mundane than we would like it to be. :/
Apr 8, 2009 at 11:01 pm rating: +20
#24
Victor
Foul, dude. Four women sharing a bathroom and it only gets cleaned every TWO WEEKS?! That’s so fucking nasty. With that many people that make that much mess sharing one bathroom, it should be cleaned once or twice EVERY WEEK. I don’t blame Laura’s suitemate at all; if you’re so foul that you don’t notice dirt and grime after that long, you have other issues inside your head that need sorting first. What the hell is Laura looking at instead, I wonder.
Apr 8, 2009 at 11:13 pm rating: +3
#25
Canthz_B
To be fair, all things are relative.
Maybe Laura was raised in a real hell-hole, and a little dried toothpaste in the basin, and hair extensions in the shower drain, are what she’s always imagined life at the Ritz-Carlton to be like.
Apr 8, 2009 at 11:26 pm rating: +5
#26
mamason
I just want to know how you can get into college without the ability to write legibly, in straight lines. I mean it’s not just crooked. It’s like rolling up and down crooked. Seriously! Was Amanda on a see-saw when she wrote this?
Apr 8, 2009 at 11:27 pm rating: +8
#27
Mica
If you’re leaving massive amounts of hair and makeup all over the bathroom for your roommates, maybe you SHOULD just clean it up for once! Nothing is more annoying than a vapid bitch who can’t clean up her own mess.
Apr 8, 2009 at 11:40 pm rating: +3
#28
you suck at craigslist
When I lived in the dorms the guys down the hall used to save their pee, soak toilet paper rolls in it, and throw them at one another (or us) in the hallway.
I would have LOVED for there to just be some hair in the drain every so often.
Apr 8, 2009 at 11:40 pm rating: +6
#29
Kate
On the fence with this one.
I share a six person apartment, so things get dirty from time to time. I’m used to messy house, so I never notice until things start to get bad. One of the first things I did when I moved in was to tell my roommates that if they wanted me to help clean, all they needed to do was ask; if they didn’t I’d never realize there was an issue.
So yeah, I think the roommate could have saved herself a good deal of cleaning if she’d just bothered to say, “Hey, do you guys mind cleaning the bathroom?” or if they’d worked out a cleaning schedule, or done something to indicate there was problem.
On the other hand, unless the roommate is exaggerating, it sounds like Laura’s causing more than her fair share of the mess. Hair all over, make-up spills, toothpaste in the sink, etc. I understand that things just naturally tend to get dirty after a while, but she could do a better job of picking up after herself.
Apr 8, 2009 at 11:51 pm rating: +5
#30
Shazbot
Some people can never be bothered by the state of a bathroom, blithely stepping on discarded tissues and toilet paper tubes for months.
Some people freak out once they notice that someone let the mouthwash drip on an otherwise spotless sink.
Unfortunately, people in the latter group are going to be screwed if they try to change people in the former group this way. Neat freaks, you will inevitably be more miserable than the slobs when you avoid cleaning up after them. Ask them to clean up after themselves, but in the end it’s a matter of what YOU can put up with–their tolerance for messes is obviously higher than yours, and weeks of thinking “Dear god this bathroom is disgusting” while they wander around drooling toothpaste on every available surface is not worth it, because eventually you’ll break down and clean it for your own peace of mind.
If you MUST be PA about it, drive them crazy by photographing their messes and leaving those pictures on their beds or someplace else where they can’t miss them. Don’t expect them to suddenly start caring about messes.
Apr 9, 2009 at 12:20 am rating: +6
#31
Sika
When I lived in the dorms a custodian came in every day and cleaned. It took her a couple minutes. Still, there were girls who wore shower shoes and refused to touch the walls. My roommate used seat covers when she used the toilet.
We left shit everywhere…dishes, brushes, towels, etc. If someone left something or didn’t take their hair off the wall we’d just holler “Hey bitch, come get your shit so I can have a place to put my curling iron!” or if it was hair all you had to do was yell “MARISSA!” and one of the two Marissa’s who both had long black hair would rush in giggling and apologizing while trying to make up for it by saying that the hair was in fact clean(which it was).
If there wasn’t a custodian…I imagine the bathroom might never have been cleaned. None of the six of us wanted to touch each other’s filth. We would just have tiptoed around and applied our make-up in our rooms. Or in my case, not cared at all and enjoyed having the bathroom mirror to myself.
I tried to explain this to a co-worker of mine that lived with her niece who never did her chores. If you don’t mention it, she’s not in trouble yet, so she’ll just hope you never notice. That’s with pre-agreed upon chores people. She asked how often I clean my bathroom (I have a husband by the way) and I said when I have company. I made sure to tell her though, that the college student’s I know who rent apartments, clean them only when they move out. Or if they have already done enough damage to have lost their deposit. Not at all. EVER!
In summary
1. Every two weeks is not being a neat freak, but I would venture to say that most college roomies rarely clean their bathroom that often. If they clean it at all.
2. People cannot read your mind. If clean to you needs to happen more often than clean to me…then I’m going to leave you in charge of making sure you’re in your own comfort zone.
3. Ordering me to clean the bathroom because you think it’s dirty…even though I don’t, is the worst way to ever get me to clean it.
4. This note would have been more effective if written with colored markers.
Apr 9, 2009 at 12:52 am rating: +16
#32
meh
I don’t understand why people get so judgemental about the people writing these notes or the people who got them.
Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe the two “slob” roommates do a lot of other household chores that the “neat freaks” avoid, and so the slobs thought that it was a fair trade that the neat freaks cleaned the bathroom every time?
Maybe the slobs take out the trash every time. Maybe they cook for everyone, or do most of the grocery shopping, or drive their roommates places, or do household repairs.
There are plenty of easily imagined reasons why the slob roommates might believe that it’s okay not to pitch in on this one chore that the other two always do without saying a word about it.
Also: bathroom cleanliness depends a lot on how nice the bathroom is to start with. A shoddily constructed bathroom gets grimy and moldy fast, but a nicely designed bathroom can stay clean a long time just from the water that gets swirled around during normal use. You are CLEANING yourself at a sink or in a shower, which means water and soap are cascading over every surface, helping to keep it clean too. If the shower surfaces aren’t cheap, they might only need scrubbing every couple of weeks. When I moved from my old, crappier apartment to my current one, I was pleasantly surprised at what a difference the upgrade in bathroom fixtures made to how often things needed to be cleaned.
Certainly a nice bathroom shared by four could stay clean for a couple of weeks, especially considering that the women sharing it are students who probably spend a lot of time at classes, libraries, jobs, boy/girlfriends’ or friends’ places– ie, not at the suite constantly using that bathroom.
I know everyone loves to pass judgement, but come on, think about the possibilities for five seconds.
Apr 9, 2009 at 1:24 am rating: +4
#33
Grimfool_Reluctant
Meh said, “I don’t understand why people get so judgemental about the people writing these notes or the people who got them.”
Meh . . . you do get the whole purpose/attraction of this site, don’t you? Or were you perhaps looking for the “Passive Notes” page?
BTW Mamason — if CB got all legalese up in there, it’s his responsibility to clean it out again. Be considerate of others, CB!
Apr 9, 2009 at 2:13 am rating: +5
#34
aaa
Damn, gigglebrax error…
Apr 9, 2009 at 2:18 am rating: +3
#35
lightspeedchick
They clean the bathroom every two weeks and there are four girls using it? Maybe not flipflopworthy, but ew.
Team Amanda.
Apr 9, 2009 at 6:52 am rating: 0
#36
pt_gal
ahahahah
I have to officially say that I now enjoy more of the comments than the notes of this site.
It was touch and go for a while but you did it! You made PAN more about your rants than the situations.
Thanks for all the laughs.
Congrats!
Apr 9, 2009 at 7:39 am rating: +4
#37
Sazbot
You’re in college but you have to be told to clean up after yourself and that if the bathroom is never dirty someone must be cleaning it?
Give me a break! This is the shame shit my housemates have tried to pull on me and it’s weak.
Team Cleaning ladies.
Apr 9, 2009 at 8:05 am rating: +3
#38
claw71
I’m pretty sure Laura won’t be chasing down a husband anytime soon. And why should she? As long as there or passive-aggressive neatniks like Amanda driving their men crazy, dirty sluts like Laura are always going to be in business.
Apr 9, 2009 at 8:53 am rating: +3
#39
tsel
I live in a house with eight other women who have been told they need to clean up after themselves and still don’t. Honestly, my notes have moved past passive-aggressive straight to aggressive.
But I have to point out that my mother taught me that a bathroom should be cleaned as many times a week as there are people using it. Amanda may be a poorly-communicating, anti-feminist pain but she is clearly NOT a neat freak.
Apr 9, 2009 at 8:59 am rating: +1
#40
TruCelt
>> “Well, if you’re not going to cook and clean and take care of me, Why did I get married?” oh. bad bad bad.<<
OMG! Did you leave him spleenless in a bathtub full of ice?
Apr 9, 2009 at 10:04 am rating: +3
#41
N/A
If the person who thinks it’s acceptable to only clean the bathroom once every two weeks is complaining then that bathroom must be totally gross. How can someone think that leaving the bathroom for 2 weeks isn’t letting it get dirty? Does she want to be on ‘how clean is your house?’
Apr 9, 2009 at 10:06 am rating: +1
#42
MinD
Someone would’ve quickly heard a piece of my mind if that note was left for me.
Apr 9, 2009 at 11:07 am rating: +1
#43
Pho
Team Amanda. Four chicks, one bathroom, one cleaning every two weeks? Fucking gross. Something could have been verbally said earlier, but really, if Laura hadn’t cleaned the bathroom once, who the hell did she think was wiping up her hair and nasty toothpaste chunks from the sink?
Apr 9, 2009 at 11:55 am rating: +1
#44
bored
Can’t read those ants crawling writing. I wonder what would I do if I get that kind of note. There is no way I am gonna read that. I think I have to confront her and defeat the purpose of PA. ha ha.
Apr 9, 2009 at 12:06 pm rating: +2
#45
claw71
Fuck Amanda. She’s way out of line. Laura is clearly an inconsiderate slob, but Amanda’s the one who penned an epic missive to communicate a very simple point: Hey Bitch, clean the loo for a change!
But who am I to give a fellow scribe the business for running on too long?
My real problem with Amanda is that she is clearly upset with Laura but for some reason dragged Christin and Kelsey into this. If Christin shares Amanda’s sentiments, why didn’t Christin sign off on the missive? And if Kelsey is an insufferable little pig, why not address the note to her as well?
Fight your own battles Amanda.
Of course, Laura, before you get a big head because claw71 took up your side, look in the mirror! You are a self-centered little tart who might want to wipe the bathroom surfaces down after you’re done. Just because you’re an only child whose parents popped for a couple of pre-matriculation plastic surgeries to ensure you’d be the prettiest girl in college after you attempted suicide because you lost out on that prom queen title to Peggy Mauric doesn’t mean your mousy roomies are there to wait on you.
As far as I’m concerned Laura and Amanda both need to grow the fuck up and handle these problems like adults. Amanda should pee on Laura’s toothbrush and Laura should have an affair with Amanda’s dad.
Apr 9, 2009 at 12:16 pm rating: +7
#46
Ali
On one hand, if I got this note, I would be pretty pissed off and reluctant to ever clean the bathroom. If Amanda and Christin (sidenote: I have never seen that name spelled that way, only Kristin/Kristen) are tired of being the only ones cleaning the bathroom, then they can (gasp!) actually talk face-to-face with the offenders.
I was lucky enough to live in my college apartment with just one other girl, and we had separate bathrooms. Mine was attached to my room, and hers was in the hall just outside her room. Whenever we had guests, I told them in private that they could use my bathroom whenever they wanted, because even though it was less convenient to get to, my roommate’s bathroom was effing DISGUSTING. The sink was filled with her hair, stuck to the basin by a rather thick layer of her old, dried toothpaste. The shower was greyish black from the amount of grime that she had let accumulate in it. The wall around her shower head was literally rotting away from mold damage. I think there must have been a leak in the pipe behind the wall that caused the damage, but our apartment was BRAND NEW. No one had ever lived in it before. She could have easily reported the damage when it first started to occur so the complex could have done something about it before it got so disgusting.
This girl is nice, she is one of my best friends, but she is a complete slob. She bought sandwich buns with sesame seeds on them, and toasted them everyday. I would find hundreds of those damn seeds on the kitchen counters every day, and it caused us to get ants. She just didn’t notice things like that. She would also keep a huge amount of her food in her room, and when she finished a box of cereal, she would leave it in her closet, which caused us to get fruit flies. I was the only one to ever run a vacuum cleaner or mop the floors or run the dishwasher the entire two years we lived there. However, I never said anything to her about it. And I didn’t stew over it either. The one thing that she did every week without fail was take out the trash. I hated taking out the trash and I admittedly let the kitchen trash overflow all the time in the hope that she would take it out. I figured it was an even trade. So I will agree with the poster earlier who said that maybe Laura and her other roommate do things in their suite that the others don’t like to do. And maybe not.
Even if Laura and Kelsey cleaned the bathroom, I suspect that the “neat freaks” wouldn’t think that it was good enough. One time my roommate and I had friends coming to visit and our apartment hadn’t been thoroughly cleaned in awhile. I had been cleaning all day and my roommate came downstairs and asked if she could help with anything. I asked her if she could help dust. When I noticed her work afterward, I saw that she didn’t bother picking anything up to dust under it, she just dusted around whatever was there. So I had to go back and redo her work anyway.
These “neat freaks” have a choice to make. They can allow the slobs to do the cleaning and live in a dirtier environment because of it, or they can suck it up and realize that some people just don’t notice the mess and do the cleaning to their own satisfaction.
Apr 9, 2009 at 12:52 pm rating: +4
#47
GhostWriter
How well does Amanda expect her plan to work?
She basically placed the responsibility for a clean bathroom, into the hands of the one person whose hygiene repulses her.
It’s like appointing Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State.
Apr 9, 2009 at 1:06 pm rating: +5
#48
Reba
I have to say that Laura is in the wrong on this one. Every two weeks, with four girls worth of hair, makeup, and toothpaste? That’s considered OCD behavior? Jeez!! Clean up your own messes once in a while!
Apr 9, 2009 at 1:06 pm rating: 0
#49
Jen
In the grown-up world, one tells one’s roommate, “Hey, I cleaned the bathroom the last two weeks. You do it this week. Kay? Thx. Bye.”
Seriously.
Team Laura.
Apr 9, 2009 at 1:07 pm rating: +5
#50
Samantha
I actually totally think the note writer is right. Sure, they should have had a sit down and discussed it, but come on, who actually does that in the dorms. Grown ups clean after themselves, and when they don’t, the people who put up with them let them know how not ok their behavior is.
Apr 9, 2009 at 7:00 pm rating: 0
#51
souldesqueeze
I’m with Laura on this one. If my roommates consistently cleaned the bathroom without complaint, I would continue to live in squalor out of spite.
Apr 9, 2009 at 8:30 pm rating: 0
#52
RP
I’m not on anybody’s team. The note writer sounds like they have a valid complaint but they decided to be a jerk about it instead of just saying something.
Apr 10, 2009 at 9:26 am rating: 0
#53
noah
“If I take your Klondike bar and you don’t say anything about it, does that mean your Klondike bars all belong to me from now on?” Sort of. If we’re roommates, and you buy Klondike Bars for the freezer, and I eat some, and you never tell me you have a problem with that, then, yes, I should be able to assume that it’s okay for me to eat them. So it is with the bathroom. If I think it’s clean enough, but you want to clean more often, but you never ask for my help, then I’m free not to help. I might be a bit of a free-rider, but I don’t feel bad for somebody who doesn’t ask for what they want. I’m a reasonable roommate, and Laura might be too. Ask and ye shall receive. Team Laura!
Apr 10, 2009 at 1:49 pm rating: +3
#54
noah
One caveat — the answer to this issues depends a bit on just how disgusting the bathroom really was. At some point of nastiness, Laura is unreasonable. Given the tone of the letter, however, I suspect that roommate is a neatfreak.
Apr 10, 2009 at 1:51 pm rating: 0
#55
number15
as a person who enjoys practicing general poor hygeine, to amanda i say this: screw you. cleanliness is not a virtue and ranks nowhere near godliness. cleaning once every two weeks is way too often. i’m on board with team laura
Apr 10, 2009 at 3:13 pm rating: 0
#56
Rebecca
Someone cleaning the bathroom every two weeks is hardly a “neat freak,” heh. While this note is crazy/extremely PA, I can empathize with the two cleaney roommates. Currently I live with someone who feels that there is no necessity for her to ever pick up a broom or mop or clean the bathtub, toilet anything. Whenever the subject comes up, she brings up the fact that she works full time. I work full time too and somehow I find time to do at least something. I say nothing because I’d prefer to have a roomie than be looking for one, and I know she wouldn’t do anything anyway. The thing that gets me is that she claimed to be really clean before she moved in. Fucking children. And she’s not even a child she’s fucking 28.
/rant
oops didn’t mean this to be a reply to someone’s comment :/
Apr 10, 2009 at 3:16 pm rating: 0
#57
lisa
i’m with laura. if it’s not dirty enough to bother me, i’m not gonna clean it. if it is dirty enough to bother me, i’m not gonna whine for someone else to clean it. a note like this would guarantee me never cleaning anything in the apt again.
Apr 10, 2009 at 7:31 pm rating: +1
#58
Kavya
I would seriously kill a bitch if she left me a note like that.
I wish my roommate would come at me like my mom–telling me that scrubbing items will be my new best friend. Who the hell died and made you Queen of the apartment? You can eat shit.
Apr 10, 2009 at 11:51 pm rating: +1
#59
brooke
yes! finally a TRUE passive aggressive note!
Apr 11, 2009 at 2:30 am rating: 0
#60
elle
This note was pretty funny (especially the part about the shower she looked forward to ALL DAY was RUINED! Just RUINED, I tell you!), but cleaning every 2 weeks isn’t ridiculous or anything. I only share my bathroom with one other person and we clean every week, because hair stuck in the drain or all over the floor is just gross.
Apr 11, 2009 at 10:46 am rating: 0
#61
Michele in CA
Ok, so cleaning a bathroom every other week that 4 people use is cleaning it a lot? Ummm…no, it isn’t. Laura and the other non-cleaning roomie are just filthy. How can someone leave toothpaste in the sink and hair all over and think the bathroom is clean enough for others to use? Amanda waited too long to blow a gasket. I would have posted a clean up routine on the bathroom door the first day I was there!
Apr 12, 2009 at 9:00 pm rating: 0
#62
Kat
I live in a apartment style dorm at a school and we are 4bed 2 bath and me and my bathroom mate never clean the bathroom and it is still SUPER clean. Seriously we never have hair in the drain and the toilet is still white and clean. We must be uber clean or something I dunno. That being said – I’m still kinda with note writter – Ive been that girl and it suckkksss. However, the girl is a bitch – she could have been a tad nicer – I mean even when I blow up I’m not THAT rude!
Apr 12, 2009 at 11:20 pm rating: +2
#63
Becky
A bathroom shared by FOUR girls, getting cleaned every other week? I totally believe that it felt like getting dropped into someone’s hairbrush.
And yes that goes without saying that Laura should have been helping to clean all along.
Team Amanda.
Apr 13, 2009 at 10:52 am rating: 0
#64
vikkitikkitavi
“kelsey and i never did [clean], because they never let the bathroom reach a point where it was actually dirty.”
I think that is the most passive-aggressive thing I’ve ever heard.
Apr 13, 2009 at 12:06 pm rating: 0
#65
Xena
This is what everyone in art university is like. NEVER GO TO ART UNIVERSITY.
Apr 14, 2009 at 7:24 am rating: +1
#66
kaye
ha, girls are so good at generating a seething fury and then bottling it up until there’s finally a confrontation something stupid. If she’s being truthful, going 2 weeks without cleaning is gross, but I suspect that from the prissy tone she’s exaggerating.
My solution for the slightly messy person is to get yourself a roommate with OCD. I had one for years, and she told me straight up that she needed to clean because she was just so compelled to do it the way she liked to do it. So I just did other things for her, like cooked. Being happy roommates is not about being exactly alike, it’s about balancing each other, but that can’t happen if no one discusses the issues.
Apr 24, 2009 at 3:47 am rating: +1
#67
rannick
I was one of these “neat freaks” with my bathroom until i went on this unclean fight to see if my roommate would clean up the bathroom eventually… That was in january. It is now the end of the semester, and i can say that it has only been cleaned once (by me) (also, how does one miss crap splattered on the toilet after a shit?). Anyways, if these nutbags had the fortitude to stick it out, they’d probably reach my state, which is “don’t think about it.” It’s what slobs do… Sure, my bathroom smells like sweat for about a minute after i turn the shower on and yes, most people’s immune systems can’t handle a use of our toilet. You’d probably get sick. But it’s not bothering the other dude. It’s your bacteria, anyways…
Apr 26, 2009 at 5:55 am rating: 0
#68
brian
If cleaning the bathroom every two weeks is considered being an “extreme neat freak”…well, I think your standards are a bit skewed.
Apr 27, 2009 at 12:06 pm rating: 0
#69
El
I was bobbong along on the ‘well if only they’d asked to share the cleaning sooner’ tide – right up until the worlds “practice” and “husband”.
Stepford-in-training much?
May 1, 2009 at 2:29 pm rating: 0
#70
Ali
I share an apartment with one other girl and we clean our bathroom once a week and neither of us are neat freaks at all. Our shower is looking pretty grotty after a week so I have no idea how 4 girls would go 2 weeks without cleaning the bathroom. That’d be friggin disgusting.
May 13, 2009 at 5:36 am rating: 0
#71 can you hear me now, biotch?
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Jul 22, 2009 at 12:02 am rating: 0
#72
Xenobiologista
I spent my senior year of college with 3 girls I didn’t know well because I figured I should have at least ONE year in my American education rooming with Americans. Big mistake.
My roommate was a huge neat freak. Of the other two suitemates, one was average-to-slightly messy like me, and her roommate, on the other hand, was the kind of person who strews all her stuff on the floor. I wish the two of us average people had roomed together and left the neat freak and the dust bunny to drive each other nuts.
Jul 23, 2009 at 12:23 am rating: 0
#73
karaboo
Maybe Laura is afraid to confront Amanda. Unitl last week I lived with an “Laura”. She was a dirty pig and never cleaned the bathroom or her cat’s litterbox. Doesn’t everyone enjoy the smell of cat urine on a hot summer day? These Laura type roommates say ” Why didn’t you say something? We could have worked it out.” Maybe we learned our lesson last time we were even tempted to disagree with you and you ripped us a new one via a facebook post or yelled at us telling us how stupid we were. I call it manipulation- Laura likely makes little comments everytime she sees Amanda cleaning the bathroom “Oh haha you are on a cleaning frenzy once again.” or my favorite “I’d help you but I just don’t have the head space to clean.” but if Amanda were to ask Laura to help she would likely get angery for even suggesting she clean up.
Sep 2, 2009 at 3:14 pm rating: 0
#74 sounds like you two deserve each other
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Sep 21, 2009 at 9:21 am rating: 0
#75 sounds like you two deserve each other
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Sep 21, 2009 at 9:21 am rating: 0
#76 sounds like you two deserve each other
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Sep 21, 2009 at 9:21 am rating: 0
#77 sounds like you two deserve each other
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Sep 21, 2009 at 9:21 am rating: 0
#78
rocketgrl
“Neat freak”??! For cleaning every TWO WEEKS?? In a bathroom shared by 4 women?! Yeeeeaaaahhhh…that bitch.
Talk about a will of stone. No wonder the poor girl snapped! Yeah, it sucks when you’re so inconsiderate that you think that the bathroom just MAGICALLY cleans itself up after you no matter how much of a slob you are… What a ridiculous sn$#%^-face, posting this on here. You’re the disgusting POS that couldn’t figure out on your own that SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO CLEAN YOUR BATHROOM (instead of just relying on roommates or family members to do it!) I-di-ot!
You wanna’ know what a ‘neat freak’ is, Laura? My best friend’s mom cleans the bathroom EVERY DAY, and only 2 people live in her house. THAT’S being a neat freak! 2 weeks in a housefull of 4 women is someone who doesn’t much give a s#*$.
Sep 27, 2009 at 12:36 am rating: 0
#79
rocketgrl
karaboo, I had the exact same roommates and I totally agree! The first had her cat box in the public bathroom we shared and literally NEVER cleaned it–she was the only one with the cat, and the only time it ever got cleaned was when I was so sick of gagging that I did it myself. Both her and the OTHER passive-aggressive roommate I had after her would bitch and bitch to their (i.e. OUR shared) friends everytime I so much as mentioned “helping out” with the cleaning! I tried bringing it up gently with smiles, I tried notes, I tried suggesting cleaning schedules to no avail. Face it–slobs bitch no matter HOW you put it or ask them for help. That’s just how the world works.
Laura, face it–you’re a slob AND an inconsiderate bitch. If this “Amanda” girl bothers you so much with her “obsessive neat freakishness”, GET NEW ROOMMATES. Slobby, inconsiderate ones like you. I’d love to see THAT house after a month…
Sep 27, 2009 at 12:48 am rating: 0
#80
TrofDieroit
Thank you for great post!
Sep 27, 2009 at 6:29 am rating: 0
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