No good deed…

May 12th, 2009 · 300 comments

D in Sunderland, Mass. received a piece of her previous manager’s mail several months after he was fired.

“I felt it was only right to contact him about a membership directory for an organization with which he was heavily involved,” she says. “I was genuinely shocked to receive his reply, especially considering how careful he was to never put anything in print that could possibly damage his reputation as ‘an internationally published poet.’”

Hi [redacted], Your NEIBA Membership directory arrived at the store today. (I got your email from the listing. Would you like to come pick it up, or should I recycle it. John says you are working on a play. I hope it comes out well. Please let me know if it is performed in the area - I would like to see it. Have a great day!

Hi [redacted], Your NEIBA Membership directory arrived at the store today. (I got your email from the listing.) Would you like to come pick it up, or should I recycle it. John says you are working on a play. I hope it comes out well. Please let me know if it is performed in the area – I would like to see it. Have a great day!

no good deed...

Please recycle the directory. A copy of the directory was mailed to me at my home address. Also, please do not contact me again. You are certainly not my friend, my colleague, or even an old acquaintance. Thank you for refraining from making any further contact with me.

related: awkward cake

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300 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Canthz_B bang

    Translation: Fuck you, and the horse you rode in on!

    May 12, 2009 at 9:22 am   rating: 25  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   MissMelony

      quite possibly she is the reason he was fired

      May 12, 2009 at 11:09 am   rating: 22  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.2   TheOldSchool

      MM, you’re right. (I wonder if he got sacked for making an “inappropriate” remark towards the flirtatious young lady who was then standing at his side, but who now has his manager’s position?)

      That’s she’s so curious about the status of his play. The whole town will turn out to see it, and everyone will recognize who’s who.

      May 12, 2009 at 5:04 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.3   Diane

      Actually, I was a contributing factor to him being fired, in that I reported his inability to do his job or treat customers and coworkers with respect to my boss. Of course, the fact that he was bad at his job and rude to customers was totally, completely, 100% my fault.

      May 12, 2009 at 9:24 pm   rating: 62  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.4   mamason bang

      Mishee! CB! You both should be ashamed of yourselves! I think you need to apologize to Diane right now! What if she doesn’t realize that you’re just kidding? And what did Kerry say about being mean to people? Huh? You both need to think about what you’ve done and I mean it.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:04 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.5   Canthz_B bang

      Can’t think about it anymore, mama.
      I don’t want to have to go out and kill again.

      There’s a college campus temptingly close too!!

      May 12, 2009 at 10:09 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.6   Diane

      Rest easy, Cantz. It was only a matter of time before he got fired. Besides, this was in July before the economy took the biggest header in the fall. This guy has a file of complaints over an inch thick, from local staff, corporate staff, customers, faculty, and vendors. He has actually been fired from two previous jobs of a similar nature, and managed to get banned from a nationwide retail chain’s local store for life, just on the basis of his attitude. While I may be a big old smelly cunt when it comes to W, I’m usually not such a relentless bitch.

      Mishee- sorry I’m such a killjoy. At least know that this is a day of healing for me, and you can lambaste me as much as you like. I’ve got thick skin, and it will take approximately 18months for you to piss me off enough for me to attempt to get you fired from your job.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:25 pm   rating: 62  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.7   Canthz_B bang

      Maybe it was just a matter of time…but he was entitled to that time, however long it may have been.
      I know people who have done shitty work at the same job for years on end.

      You don’t fuck with someone’s livelihood.

      BTW, the economy has been in the toilet for nearly two years. Ask anyone who lost their home in late 2007.

      Grow up…fast.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:41 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.8   Mishee™ bang

      Diane, I don’t care how thick your skin is, I can guaranfuckingtee you that I could piss you off about 10 times quicker than you say.

      I have a mother, father, BFFs, and a husband who can attest to this.

      One BFF used to say that I could make Gandhi want to slap the shit outta me.

      Its a gift.

      May 12, 2009 at 11:51 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.9   Diane

      Ah, but would you piss me off to the point that I would want to take legally-acceptable actions to avoid being in the same room with you? Please don’t consider this a challenge, I’m really not here to make enemies, just mock the one I already have. I will take you at your word as to your skill level- some people are talented like that. I’m sure Gandhi is just concerned for the regularity of your bowels. :D

      May 13, 2009 at 12:02 am   rating: 43  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.10   TheOldSchool

      Gandhi was a gastroenterologist!

      May 13, 2009 at 1:35 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.11   Canthz_B bang

      Ghandi was the end product of the enteral system!!
      .
      .
      .
      .

      Ghandi was the shit! (slangingly speaking of course!)

      May 13, 2009 at 3:33 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.12   Clumber bang

      Honestly, even if I was a totally non-involved person who arrived at that org after previous manager had left, I would write a similar note including the part about hoping that his play went well. In my own admittedly social imbecilic viewpoint, that is “small talk” and “showing interest in the other person” which I have heard is how civilized carbon-based entities like to be treated. So no knock whatsoever from me there.

      His response? Well, vindictive but, I suppose, honest with the supposed circumstances. A but little P in the reply. Certainly possible the P was in D’s email, and if so I have no choice but to applaud, as it was well done inasfar as a PA note.

      CB & Mish, if you don’t mind a worthless peon like me addressing you (eyes are averted I swear — AVERTED!) c’mon now – Re-read the 1st letter with an air of “you worthless asshole bastard, lookie – I get a perfectly legitimate excuse to needle you just…once…more. Go fuck yourself, sweetie! Bless your heart!” At least through my (averted!) eyes, it is a WIN PA email.

      JMHO, I’ll scurry back into the hole now…

      May 13, 2009 at 7:41 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #2   you suck at craigslist

    The play is called, “Screw you guys, I’m going home.”

    May 12, 2009 at 9:26 am   rating: 61  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   anglophile bang

      Subtitle: And I’m Taking My Ball With Me

      May 12, 2009 at 10:10 am   rating: 29  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.2   Ti to the O bang

      I heard this in Eric Cartman’s voice.

      May 12, 2009 at 1:45 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.3   slythwolf

      I wonder if that might be because it’s Cartman’s catch phrase.

      May 12, 2009 at 3:03 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.4   N

      I thought it was, “I’m not fat I’m big boned!”

      May 12, 2009 at 7:06 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.5   mamason bang

      Hey! Me too! *big boneded that is*

      May 12, 2009 at 10:06 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.6   Mark bang

      I’ve got your “big bone,” mama!

      May 13, 2009 at 10:48 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.7   mamason bang

      Why, thank you, Mark. :twisted:

      May 13, 2009 at 2:25 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.8   MAMARILLA2 bang

      Big boned is out, glandular problem is in, That’s always been my problem..

      May 16, 2009 at 2:23 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #3   Listy

    I don’t know if anyone is having the same problem, but the second picture isn’t displaying… it’s just a note from flickr about how it’s “currently unavailable.”

    May 12, 2009 at 9:26 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   Canthz_B bang

      Click on it, Listy. :-)

      May 12, 2009 at 9:27 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.2   Mishee™ bang

      click on the note from flickr.

      the pic comes up then.

      May 12, 2009 at 9:27 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.3   TheMiki

      I had to click on it and pull it up in a new window, but then it worked. And it just basically says, “Recycle the directory. I hate you.”

      May 12, 2009 at 9:28 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.4   Listy

      It’s working now! Please don’t contact me in the future.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:46 am   rating: 123  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #4   Mishee™ bang

    Well, someone’s a little butt hurt.

    Geez W – Didn’t your mother tell you that if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all?

    May 12, 2009 at 9:27 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   Canthz_B bang

      It’s probably very nice, Mishee™, the writings of poets are sometimes hard to interpret!

      May 12, 2009 at 9:29 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #5   Mishee™ bang

    So, W doesn’t want to talk to D anymore, but yet John still speaks with him regularly?

    I sense favoritism afoot.

    May 12, 2009 at 9:29 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #6   Mishee™ bang

    A letter to the Editor that was printed in Playboy an “internationally published poet” does not make.

    May 12, 2009 at 9:31 am   rating: 42  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   anglophile bang

      There once was a man from Nantucket….

      May 12, 2009 at 10:23 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.2   T to the O

      I thought he was from Madrass…

      May 12, 2009 at 10:34 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.3   Holiday Djinn

      No, No. He was from Truth or Consquences, NM. Wait, or was it Secaucus?

      Also, that pisses me off Mishee. Now I need to go and redo my entire resume because of your little revalation. :-(

      May 12, 2009 at 2:01 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.4   Diane

      I don’t think he did Playboy, but he’s boasted several poems in Rolling Stone issues from the 70s and 80s.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:28 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.5   TheOldSchool

      Diane, I don’t remember poetry ever being in Rolling Stone, but if his claims are true, you should give the guy his due on that point, at least.

      The “boasted” was a bit over the top. You’ve already made your case.

      You don’t make yourself look better by cheap attempts at making him look worse. You’re better than that.

      May 13, 2009 at 12:08 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.6   Diane

      TOS, he is a good poet- a REALLY good poet. I’m not much of a poetry person, but I enjoy W’s writing (at least when it isn’t hurtful). When used in that format, ‘boasts’ isn’t a put-down; a school can boast an excellent soccer record without it being considered vanity. It is simply something on their record that can increase the value of attending that school. W’s resume would boast the RS poems, his published works, perhaps his upcoming play, etc. That sentence actually wasn’t intended to be a slight, it just came out that way. Sometimes I speak in an old fashioned manner, probably from watching too many BBC adaptations of Jane Austen novels or something.

      May 13, 2009 at 12:50 am   rating: 25  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.7   TheOldSchool

      Diane,

      That’s kind of you to acknowledge W’s poetry prowess.

      Whenever John Waters meets anyone who claims to be an artist, the director just smiles and says, “Well, I’ll be the judge of that.”

      (It doesn’t work as well if someone introduces himself as a plumber or a locker room attendant.)

      May 13, 2009 at 1:09 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.8   park rose

      What was Divine’s opening remark?

      You think you’re a man, but you’re only a boy?

      I wonder what the verdict was. Might have tied in to 24.12.

      May 13, 2009 at 1:17 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.9   TheOldSchool

      Rose, Harris Glenn Milstead was not a felcher. (As far as I know. Then again, it’s not the kind of thing one brings up at dinner parties.)

      May 13, 2009 at 1:46 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.10   Diane

      Perhaps it should be? I’m sure it would spice up some of those cocktail parties we were talking about earlier. Or should that be cock/tail?

      May 13, 2009 at 1:51 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.11   TheOldSchool

      The saying: “The straw that broke the camel’s back,” could be used as a somewhat clumsy segue into a felching anecdote at a dinner party, but the anecdote had better be as meaty as the guests are open to drinking in the ambience of topics normally unexplored while masticating the flesh of dead animals.

      (Etymologists: here’s a bone for you to chew or expound upon: the similarities of “masticate” and “masturbate.”)

      May 13, 2009 at 2:06 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.12   park rose

      sounds like cudswallop to me. ;)

      circumcision, circumnavigate, circumlocution…

      not quite the same, but plenty to play with, and to get schoolboys in a tangle of linguistic embarrassment at the same time.

      May 13, 2009 at 2:59 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #7   Woman on the Verge bang

    I speak poet. Here is the translation:

    Asshat,
    Shove the directory up your ass. I have my own personal copy nyah nyah nyah. You are dead to me. I hope you choke.
    Love,
    Bestest Poet Ever

    May 12, 2009 at 9:36 am   rating: 68  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   Eric bang

      Oh stewardess, I speak Jive.

      Dat liti’cha don’ mean no rap, slick. I gots m’ own slice o’ dat lyrical scrib m’ own dayum self. Sheeeeet!
      And u sho’ as hell ain’t m’ homey so col’ got ta be, yo! Chump don won no help, chump don git no help. Jivin’ ass dude ain’ got no brains anyhow.

      May 12, 2009 at 8:12 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.2   Diane

      Yes, yes that’s pretty much the best translation so far. The note was addressed to me.

      May 12, 2009 at 9:20 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #8   The Riel One

    Ouch! This is one of those awkward situations and yeh the ending had a bite to it.

    Sounds to me like “W” is still hurting from the firing.

    May 12, 2009 at 9:37 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #8.1   Mishee™ bang

      Ya think?

      He’s probably still looking for work. I mean, he replied within 20 minutes.

      And you know 10 of them he spent making sure the line “You are certainly not my friend, colleague, or even an old acquaintance” sound just right

      Its all about cadence.

      May 12, 2009 at 9:43 am   rating: 53  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.2   The Riel One

      Ooooh. Nice catch on the timeline. I wonder if it took him 10 minutes to write that response or if it was 5 minutes anger and 5 minutes writing. Will we ever know….

      May 12, 2009 at 9:50 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.3   Sirius bang

      *This only took 90 seconds (of course, I’m a supreme ass-hat)*

      No, you shall not be seeing my play,
      You got me canned, so just stay away.
      Stick that compendium
      Up your rear-endium,
      P.S Have a Great Fucking Day!

      May 12, 2009 at 11:51 am   rating: 126  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.4   T to the O

      Hooray!

      May 12, 2009 at 12:26 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.5   Holiday Djinn

      Good, but I will still probably just pick it up when it comes out in paperback.

      May 12, 2009 at 2:08 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.6   MeToo

      This is perfect – I think today is National Limerick Day or something. (Seriously! But don’t ask how I know that.)

      FTW.

      May 12, 2009 at 5:01 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.7   Mishee™ bang

      I had to google it.

      Today IS Nationall Limerick Day.

      Creepy.

      May 12, 2009 at 6:27 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.8   MeToo

      See? I don’t lie! Come on Mishee…let’s hear a limerick!

      May 12, 2009 at 10:51 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #9   The Devil's Daughter-In-Law

    Obviously, the only logical thing to do is to circulate this email, including full name and address of the poet, on the internet, and possibly create an entire blog devoted to hatred of said poet.

    May 12, 2009 at 10:00 am   rating: 35  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   Beth

      I agree. Internationally published asshats should get all the publicity (read: humiliation) they deserve.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:06 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.2   Lexi

      OMG, The Devil’s Daughter-In-Law! Your blog is funny as hell.

      May 12, 2009 at 12:59 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.3   Diane

      Trust me, it has crossed my mind. I’m going to send the email he sent my colleague last week as well, hopefully she will post it as an update to this one.

      May 12, 2009 at 9:23 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #10   Kimberly

    I can’t believe she told him to have a great day. What a bitch.

    May 12, 2009 at 10:04 am   rating: 34  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   TheOldSchool

      Kimberly,

      I agree with you. W instantly saw through D’s thin veil of mousey, yet false, congeniality.

      He then responded appropriately.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:42 am   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.2   T to the O

      Seriously!!! I mean where does she get off with “please let me know if it is performed in the area I would like to see it.”
      Serious bitch on heels! sheesh. This aggression will not stand man!

      May 12, 2009 at 10:44 am   rating: 25  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.3   Mark bang

      Yeah, it’s almost like she peed on his rug or something!

      May 12, 2009 at 10:51 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.4   TheMiki

      That rug really tied the room together…

      May 12, 2009 at 12:05 pm   rating: 28  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.5   I suck

      It’s so hot watching chicks pee!

      May 12, 2009 at 1:57 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.6   Resident Grammarian esq bang

      Yeah she is a bitch. What the hell? Going out of her way to annoy the guy long after she drove him away, saying look at me “I recycle” I’m awesome! I don’t think he worded his response strongly enough. She then mocks his internationally published poet status, what have you done in your life bitch? I really want to see your play… my ass!

      May 12, 2009 at 2:23 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.7   mamason bang

      I don’t understand what’s so hot about chickpeas. I mean, they’re tasty in a salad and you can make some yum… what? Yeah. Chickpeas. :-? He said what? 8-O never mind

      May 12, 2009 at 9:09 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.8   Diane

      I know. I’m such a horrible person. Truthfully, I thought it was a nice statement instead of the translation “Come get your fucking mail, you bastard.” The “have a great day!” is part of my signature, so unless I take the effort to manually change it, it shows up. And let’s face it, I’m lazy, which is OBVIOUSLY why I didn’t personally deliver his mail to him myself.

      May 12, 2009 at 9:27 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.9   mamason bang

      I’m so glad that you didn’t deliver it personally. I can’t even imagine how awkward that would have been. I wonder if he would have flounced away after slamming the door in your face? I’m thinking, yes. He seems like a total flouncer.

      *not that there’s anyting wrong with that*

      May 12, 2009 at 9:47 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.10   Diane

      Not sure if he would flounce, but he would turn a lovely shade of beet red, chew his gum furiously, and righteously nod his head while giving me the evil eye. I wish I had recorded it so I could post it on YouTube. It’s a great facial expression.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:32 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.11   marky not mark

      I have the mental image of the boss from Parks and Recreations played by Nick Offerman giving you the evil eye when you described that!
      Post a youtube link if you ever get that on camera.

      May 17, 2009 at 12:16 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #11   G

    Wait, that’s *out* of character for someone who considers himself a poet?

    I thought moody, grouchy, and irritable came with the territory.

    May 12, 2009 at 10:14 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   Mishee™ bang

      I don’t know what you are talking about G… From what I hear, Emily Dickinson was a joy to be around!

      May 12, 2009 at 10:50 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #11.2   Woman on the Verge bang

      Not to mention Sylvia Plath.

      May 12, 2009 at 3:23 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #11.3   Ti to the O bang

      Amen those bitches really knew how to party!

      May 12, 2009 at 3:48 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #12   much to my chagrin bang

    At least she doesn’t still have to see this guy on a daily basis. One time a boss of mine was fired (or forced to “quit”) for incompetence at a residential facility where I used to work. He responded by outing our executive director as an alcoholic in an 8 page rambling e-mail he sent to all the staff. He was still allowed to live there for a couple of months until he got a new place, but it was incredibly awkward to act as though nothing happened after his “fuck off” e-mail.

    May 12, 2009 at 10:20 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #12.1   Mishee™ bang

      And where, praytell, is this 8 page rambling e-mail and why haven’t we seen it on PAN?

      May 12, 2009 at 10:50 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.2   Bill

      It doesn’t sound like it was particularly passive.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:58 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.3   Mishee™ bang

      It’s okay Bill – kerry has a tag for “more aggressive than passive”

      May 12, 2009 at 11:02 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.4   cheeky

      I initially read that the guy was fired for incontinence at a residential facility and immediately cheered up and thought “hey, so it isn’t just me!”.

      Then I re-read.

      Way to spoil my happiness, jerk.

      May 13, 2009 at 5:20 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.5   Snippy

      Aw, piss off!

      May 13, 2009 at 2:57 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #13   jb

    what a classy guy

    May 12, 2009 at 10:21 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #14   MeToo

    I would respond, just to piss him off more!

    Maybe send him a picture of the directory sitting in the recycling bin, and a note that says, “Just wanted you to rest assured that we properly disposed of the directory, as per your wishes. Will send confirmation of recycling pickup on Wednesday. (I’m sure you remember that Wednesdays are pickup days.)”

    May 12, 2009 at 10:28 am   rating: 86  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   KatieMB

      I think a picture of his former colleagues having coffee in his old office would be a delightful thing to send him.

      With the caption, “Can’t wait to see your play!”

      May 12, 2009 at 3:38 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #15   much to my chagrin bang

    Actually, I was afraid he would go all “Office Space” on us and set the building on fire. I wonder if The Poet has some kind of stapler or something he’s overly attached to?

    May 12, 2009 at 10:31 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   Diane

      Just his ego. But I understand- it’s a VERY LARGE ego, and he’s put a lot of time and effort into cultivating it.

      May 12, 2009 at 9:32 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #16   Bernd das Brot bang

    D was “genuinely shocked,” huh? She’s the one who inadvertently got him fired. D was just being D, always being “proactive” and doing what she considers to be “only right.” Like telling everyone about the wonderful play W was working on every day at the office together with his new, extremely good looking assistant…

    May 12, 2009 at 10:38 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #16.1   anglophile bang

      Yeah, I’m smelling a definite backstory to this one. I don’t think D is being totally forthcoming with us.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:54 am   rating: 21  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.2   TheOldSchool

      There isn’t a single word in d’s e-mail that isn’t either pernicious or condescendingly spiteful.

      I wouldn’t be surprised to see a character much like her in W’s play.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:54 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.3   TheOldSchool

      Judging from D’s snarky comments accompanying her submission, I think this is one little vixen who isn’t quite as cunning as she thinks she is.

      (Maybe she has a look of doe-eyed innocence that plays more to her advantage in person.)

      May 12, 2009 at 11:08 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.4   N/A

      I don’t know. If I were sending an email like that I’d probably feel the need to put something friendly on the end. It is someone she used to see on a daily basis most likely so just sending a one sentence email would feel rude. I’m going to guess that his play totally sucks and he’d rather cut off the non-friend, non-acquaintance than admit that nobody wants to put his stupid play on.

      May 12, 2009 at 11:35 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.5   KatieMB

      I hate seeing that things have come to this for D and W. Afterall, they weren’t even acquaintances….

      May 12, 2009 at 3:41 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.6   mamason bang

      “I’m smelling a definite backstory8-O

      While I do maintain a strict “no flatulence” policy within my marriage, I do not adhere as strictly to it while PANing. I just didn’t think you’d know. My bad.

      May 12, 2009 at 7:15 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.7   Diane

      Here’s your backstory, PAN-folks: a year and a half of putting up with W’s shitty attitude and doing his work for him finally caught up to my tolerance level. Yes, I am a very PA person myself, and while I try to hold it in check with coworkers, this man really and truly pissed me off. He berated me, belittled me, constantly criticized my work (which he would then turn in as his own, without making changes), and he was rude and offensive to students, which count for 90% of our customer base since I work on a college campus. Some days, I would push his buttons just to see how far I could get, and how red I could make him turn (think cooked lobster). He gave me a bad review, stating that while I was excellent at my job and with customers, I didn’t treat him with the proper respect (understandable) and spoke too often about things like Viking helmets and zombies. He actually put the following comment in my annual review. “While I appreciate D’s enthusiasm for subjects dear to her, sometimes she talks too much about Zombies, and shows a lack of respect for me as her manager and an internationally published poet by suggesting I wear a Viking helmet.”

      I fervently wished, for many months, that he would be run over by a bus, except I would feel bad for the bus driver, who would be held accountable, and the bus patrons, who would be late to work. Personally, I think having this posted on PAN and commented on is the best revenge I could have. It’s on the internet, you conceited fuck, and IT WILL NEVER DISAPPEAR. Did I try to get him fired? You bet, and everyone knows it. Did he deserve it? Hell, yes.

      May 12, 2009 at 9:43 pm   rating: 38  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.8   Canthz_B bang

      You entitled little brat.

      The only good thing about this is that I have lived long enough to know with certainty that what goes around, comes around.

      The nerve of him! Trying to teach you some workplace etiquette!!

      May 12, 2009 at 9:57 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.9   mamason bang

      Hell. If I was working with a total douche and incompetent, I would have no problem crushing him! Even in this terrible economy. I’m thinking, you want to stay employed, you’d better do your job, do it well and with a smile!

      May 12, 2009 at 10:15 pm   rating: 34  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.10   Canthz_B bang

      I’m not so sure the guy was either. He seemed to be doing quite well in his career until Diane came along.
      These kids get an entry-level job and want to be treated like CEOs.

      She wasn’t working with him, he was her superior and she couldn’t handle being subordinate.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:28 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.11   Diane

      Sorry, Canthz, I have to disagree here. I transferred to this location after having worked for this company since 2002. I have had no problems with other managers or coworkers in that 7 year period. I was brought in partly because of my knowledge and skill with the department and processes involved, and because of good recommendations of previous managers. W had already been on job probation and was under the watchful HR eye for well over a year before I came into the picture. Being browbeaten daily isn’t my idea of good workplace etiquette, and the reason I was discussing zombies so often is that we have a customer set who is greatly into that sort of thing, and the more often I talked to them, the more they came back and were willing to shop. Yes, I do enjoy a good zombie movie. I suggested that W would look fantastic in a Viking helmet for Silly Hat Day during spirit week.

      Yes, some of what you say is spot-on. I did not act subordinate to him, but it’s hard to be submissive when you are told “I don’t want you to think” and treated like shit on a daily basis. W wanted to work with meek automatons who worshipped the ground he walked on given his status as a poet, which, while impressive, has no bearing on his ability to be a good businessman.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:43 pm   rating: 33  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.12   Canthz_B bang

      Watched him for a whole year and didn’t find grounds for termination until you came along (with your six whole years of experience with the company) and didn’t like his management style, and, as you’ve stated here I believe, pushed his buttons to see how far you could get?

      Yeah, he’s an ogre all right.

      *can see clearly why previous mangers were happy to write recommendation letters to get rid of her.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:50 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.13   Diane

      They watched him for a whole year trying to get enough people to speak out against him to fire him. He had previously been fired from two similar jobs, and several other employees wrote statements about how poorly he treated his staff. The other staff member was a very quiet young man who just suffered W’s abuse silently. W was with the company 4 years, and for approximately 3 of those years, HR was trying to gather enough documented infractions in a certain time frame to meet requirements to fire him. Most people were afraid to speak out against him because he was a manager and might do their reviews. I stood up against it. I really don’t see why that is so wrong.

      I think I purposefully pushed his buttons two or three times, usually in very stressful weeks when I was treated worse than normal, or when he harassed my quiet coworker.

      He would do things like make snide comments to crush our self-esteem, and whenever I dressed up for work (college campuses are very casual dress code- usually slacks and a nice blouse were dressy enough) he would find the dirtiest jobs he could, like vacuuming under the shelving units, which required me to lay on the floor with the extension brush to reach underneath, or cleaning out the store rooms or carrying greasy and oily containers. Any time we had corporate management visiting, he sent me to work downstairs out of sight,and took credit for my displays, paperwork, advertising, faculty contacts, etc. Yes, it was his department and he was partly responsible for those things, but he could have made himself look just as good by saying he had taught me how to do those tasks instead of saying he did them himself.

      May 12, 2009 at 11:17 pm   rating: 35  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.14   TheOldSchool

      Diane,

      I’ll admit it, I had you all wrong. W does sound like a total dickhead, and you are clearly not a sorority girl seeking revenge just because a poet told you to piss off.

      Your explanation of the situation is so well-articulated, I now feel kinda embarrassed about belittling (the caricature I had of) you all day.

      Has anyone sent W the link to PAN?

      May 12, 2009 at 11:53 pm   rating: 23  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.15   Diane

      I doubt anyone has forwarded him. He would consider it too immature to read, and I’m not certain that anyone he is on close terms with anyone reads it (excluding myself, of course). Thanks for your honesty with regards to your feelings- having reread this, I can certainly see how I would come off as some sparkly bottle blonde who was angry that the mean manager actually expected her to work instead of flirting with the cute boys. xoxoEKT forever!xoxo

      May 13, 2009 at 12:15 am   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.16   Canthz_B bang

      I wonder further why you know what someone else’s confidential personnel file says.

      But that’s just me, and because those files are supposed to be kept in confidence to keep people like you from targeting people who may be struggling to keep their jobs whom you just don’t happen to like.

      If you really want to run to your manager and tell him something, run and tell him that someone in HR is discussing confidential personnel file information.
      Even tell him/her that you yourself have done so, on the internet.

      I don’t feel bad at all, because we’ve only gotten to hear her side of it…with no way to verify a damned thing she says.
      Reminds me of the girl in the car on the dark, foggy night hitting the cat thread.
      Every post gets more and more involved and the guy gets worse and worse as she posts.

      Something I rarely do…I call BS!!

      May 13, 2009 at 12:23 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.17   Diane

      Several other employees told me they sent emails to the boss regarding W’s treatment of staff, that’s how I know. Some of them even forwarded the emails to me. I didn’t read the personnel file on W, but I did see it because it was left on the desk when he was fired. I returned it to HR. I do have letters that some of my then-coworkers (who are now my employees) wrote, because they are in those employees files, and I have access to them because I am now their manager. They are files that include things like awards, disciplinary actions, etc.

      You can call whatever you like, Cantz, because you are entitled to your opinion, but I swear that what I am writing I have experienced to be true. Yes, you only have my side of the story, but since I am honoring W’s request to not contact him further, I won’t pass along the link to him. You’ll just have to continue assuming I’m lying out my ass, and nothing I can say will change that, as it seems your mind is already made up.

      May 13, 2009 at 1:00 am   rating: 33  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.18   Canthz_B bang

      Yeah, HR files are routinely left lying about for every Tom, Dick and Harry to see.
      They don’t keep those bad boys in the HR Dept.

      You are so full of it I have to take a crap now.

      I’m sure everyone there is aware that you have access to their personal information without the integrity to keep it private. I doubt that, as you seem to be a company gossip of the Nth degree.
      Why, for instance, would anyone tell you of their actions?
      Why would they forward them to you? Were you in a position to act on their complaints?
      Were they sent to HR before the fact? In which case you can’t use them as justifications for your actions.
      Were they sent to you after the fact? In which case you engaged in childish gloating over getting someone fired.
      And you think you’re management material? Hardly.

      I don’t know whose dick you sucked to be in the position you are in, but I congratulate you on your skills.

      May 13, 2009 at 2:34 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.19   Banana

      Goddamn. Did someone named Diane rape your dog, steal your ice cream, and get you fired when you were a kid?

      Nice little misogynistic barb at the end there.

      May 13, 2009 at 4:17 am   rating: 57  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.20   Canthz_B bang

      Thanks for the compliment!

      Still don’t see where I impugned the integrity of all Dianes though.

      Good job of addressing what I had to say…you know, the meat.
      No need to actually take a moment to think though. Wouldn’t want to stress you too much.

      Nice to meet you, Banana. :-)

      May 13, 2009 at 4:33 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.21   Canthz_B bang

      Fact of the matter is, she had a potential mentor and burned her bridges because he made her pay her dues.
      Quite often, when someone in a position of power chooses to single us out, it’s because they see potential.
      You gravitate towards those people…you don’t throw them under the bus just because you don’t see the big picture.

      Lecture over.

      May 13, 2009 at 4:51 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.22   anglophile bang

      Thanks for the backstory, Diane.

      I have an evil boss too, but I won’t ever be able to get her fired. At least I can live vicariously through your story! :)

      May 13, 2009 at 7:20 am   rating: 21  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.23   Banana

      Oh, please, you had your mind made up about her from the start. People don’t get fired over the complaints of a single one of their subordinates, short of sexual harassment claims and the like. More often than not, it’s the whining subordinate that gets the boot if they get on enough people’s nerves. It’s a very, very difficult thing to get someone fired from a managerial position of the kind she’s describing, because firing someone without sufficient reason is cause for all kinds of legal action against the company, organization, whatever.

      On the other hand, if you truly are one of the great grand omniscient beings of the internet, and could see in those few lines the true and noble heart and ironfisted but well-intentioned management techniques of the poor, martyred D, you have my apologies.

      May 13, 2009 at 7:52 am   rating: 45  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.24   Banana

      God damn it. Poor, martyred W. Yes. I’m not sticking around for 15 minutes to edit.

      May 13, 2009 at 7:56 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.25   Bunnee

      I, too, have an evil boss who seems to look for ways to make my work life miserable. I can totally understand, and I am waiting for the day he retires with bated breath!

      May 13, 2009 at 9:30 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.26   Snippy

      CB, you’re intelligent and often funny, but damn — did you wake up with a bug up your ass?

      The “meat” of your nasty comments is a load of extremely negative criticism, insults, and accusations based largely on assumptions and your own inference of “the rest of the story that she isn’t telling us.” Plus, you don’t seem to subscribe to the widely cherished hopes that incompetent and insensitive people who deserve to get fired will get fired.

      In short: teh issues…. you haz dem

      May 13, 2009 at 3:08 pm   rating: 37  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.27   Canthz_B bang

      Thanks, Snippy. I value your opinion, because of our close personal relationship and all, but I don’t think that, hearing one side of the story, anyone has a right to take much of a stand here.
      We wouldn’t have had much to say if we all took the same side, right? ♥

      May 13, 2009 at 3:22 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.28   Snippy

      Good response. :)

      May 13, 2009 at 3:29 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.29   Canthz_B bang

      Thanks. :mrgreen:

      May 13, 2009 at 3:54 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.30   Clumber bang

      Wait…wait..wait….wait…wait… “Spirit Week” ?!! “Silly Hat Day” ?!?!? W!T!F!???

      fuck you all. I thought that shit went away after you leave fucking high school….

      ^begins tying a noose from spare cat5 cables around desk…. I will hang from the gdamnned ceiling before I get shoved into another fucking pep rally….

      May 13, 2009 at 7:56 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.31   Mishee™ bang

      yeah, when Diane mentioned that, was I the only one who had a vision of the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant on crazy hat day, with Tom Jones piped in over the loudspeaker, in the episode where Mr. Burns hired Marge?

      And hilarity ensued…

      *ambles off in search of a life*

      May 13, 2009 at 8:08 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.32   Diane

      College campus.

      May 13, 2009 at 8:31 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.33   Clumber bang

      Been on 3 different college campuses (campusi? campusek? campuss…. nah, i’ll leave that one for the clever folk.) in my time on earth and as dogs as my witness, I have never, ever been aware of any such Spirit Week, Silly Hat Day, Team Colors Day, Backwards Day, or Sober Day at any of them. 1 I lived on campus, 2nd I was off-campus, 3rd also off-campus but in a student-filled apartment complex.

      I just turned to my spouse (2 colleges so far) and asked her and her reply was (i doth quote) “In COLLEGE? You mean High school? No? College? FUCK NO. Who the FUCK goes to a college that does that shit…” and the rest was the same sort of whining about High School that I already posted.

      May 13, 2009 at 9:35 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.34   Clumber bang

      And CB? Less than 12 hours ago I saw confidential personnel files left in the open, not in HR.

      I am in IT. It happens. It sucks, but it happens. It is even barfingly common for the HR folks to leave letters of termination, reports of investigations of grievance, anything you can really imagine being in an HR electronic record – for them to leave that document open on their PC even after we remind them and re-remind them that to fix X issue we need to log into their computer remotely, and as them, so please give me a time frame so I can get that done for you and FOR GAWDS SAKE PLEASE close any documents you have open before that time frame.
      I bet better than 80% of the time we remote in to an HR staff PC during the time frame they requested, and find the screen to be an open confidential personnel document. Yes we report it, and no nothing changes.

      May 14, 2009 at 12:35 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #17   Erin

    “Wait, that’s *out* of character for someone who considers himself a poet?

    I thought moody, grouchy, and irritable came with the territory.”

    Some poets are nice people and some are ass-hats, but the jerky poets think they are artistically justified in their ass-hattery.

    May 12, 2009 at 10:43 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   Sirius bang

      No, actually they’re all ass-hats, every one. The ones who think they’re nice are the biggest ass-hats. And the ones who are directory-receiving charter members of the National Establishment for Internationally Boring Ass-hats — well, they should know better; it’s right there in the name!

      May 12, 2009 at 11:42 am   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #17.2   TheOldSchool

      I googled NEIBA.

      It is the New England Independent Booksellers Association.

      This explains a lot. In the world of booksellers (and in academia), the fights are always vicious because the stakes are so inconsequential.

      May 12, 2009 at 12:36 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

       
    • #17.3   mamason bang

      TOS, you googled NAMBLA. Don’t lie. ;-)

      May 12, 2009 at 10:17 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #18   T to the O

    “My Name is Poet Angus McWordenstien. I wear turtlenecks and capes, black of course. I am prone to spewing scathing vitrolic abuse on hapless bystanders and substance abuse. I will die friendless and destitute because no one could understand the depth of my brilliance!”
    Please recycle my Angsty Pillow Biters Assn. directory I had one forwarded to my home address.

    Fuck you,
    Angus McWordenstien

    May 12, 2009 at 10:51 am   rating: 29  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   anglophile bang

      How dare you suggest that all Pillow Biters are Internationally Published Poets, Timo? I am offended, deeply offended.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:55 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.2   T to the O

      Oh I see what you did there…clever. You are a cute clever bunny. :lol:

      May 12, 2009 at 11:15 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.3   Bunnee

      I thought that was me?!?!

      May 12, 2009 at 12:00 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.4   T to the O

      Aw but of course it is you too. You’re a cute clever smoochy bunnee. See the difference? It is subtle but it is there. :wink:

      May 12, 2009 at 12:30 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.5   anglophile bang

      Yep, the difference is that I’m not smoochy. :|

      May 12, 2009 at 12:42 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.6   Ti to the O bang

      Yes, yes, fine, you are all smoochy okay! Sheesh. I just can’t avoid digging holes for myself. :razz:

      May 12, 2009 at 12:46 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.7   anglophile bang

      So what you’re saying is that everyone’s special? We all know what that means. Nobody is. :(

      May 12, 2009 at 12:49 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.8   Tastelessandless

      re: 18.5 – Drat.

      May 12, 2009 at 12:49 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.9   Ti to the O bang

      We’re all wieners here… um I mean winners!

      May 12, 2009 at 12:51 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.10   Mark bang

      Death to Smoochy!

      May 12, 2009 at 12:51 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.11   Bunnee

      Timo is precious when he’s flustered….. ;)

      May 12, 2009 at 1:11 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.12   Ti to the O bang

      * fluster fluster fluster * :grin:

      May 12, 2009 at 1:32 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.13   amy d bang

      Glo, I have come to accept that Timo belongs to all the ladies of PAN. He’s adept at flirting and a master wooer.

      May 12, 2009 at 1:39 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.14   Mishee™ bang

      I don’t know what y’all are talking about.

      Timo is mine.

      I don’t share.

      :|

      May 12, 2009 at 1:53 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.15   I suck

      You guys should try real life, you may actually get a response thats not text.

      May 12, 2009 at 2:05 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.16   Mishee™ bang

      *crickets*

      May 12, 2009 at 2:20 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.17   Resident Grammarian esq bang

      you do suck

      May 12, 2009 at 2:44 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.18   much to my chagrin bang

      I think I Suck saw how many times the word “asshat” was used on this site and thought it was about him.

      May 12, 2009 at 3:48 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.19   mamason bang

      I swallow.

      May 12, 2009 at 7:17 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.20   I suck

      Ha ha, much to my chagrin, +1 for “I think I suck.”

      May 13, 2009 at 9:09 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #19   unholyghost2003 bang

    But but but “an old acquaintance” is EXACTLY what she is.

    May 12, 2009 at 11:17 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #19.1   anglophile bang

      Oh, uhg2k3, don’t be so persnickety. Not everyone has a firm grasp of language and the subtle meanings and connotations of words. I mean, you’d have to be some kind of writer or something.

      May 12, 2009 at 11:27 am   rating: 42  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.2   Boobfoo the clown

      I am a clown with a terminal illness and I may not know language but I know the meaning of acquaintance. I am going to all of my old acquaintances and apologizing for any slights. I don’t want to have dead clown guilt.

      May 12, 2009 at 12:34 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.3   Ti to the O bang

      So I guess it would be better to have the acquaintance of a live guilty clown rather than a dead one.
      Cherish your clowns people!

      May 12, 2009 at 1:51 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.4   Tastelessandless

      I’ll have u know I love my dead gay clown!

      May 12, 2009 at 2:00 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.5   mamason bang

      *not that there’s anything wrong with that*

      May 12, 2009 at 2:32 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.6   ryanmalloy

      “No clowns were funny. That was the whole purpose of a clown.”

      May 12, 2009 at 3:42 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.7   not me!

      I wonder how u’d react if ur clown had a limp wrist with a pulse?

      May 12, 2009 at 6:43 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #20   ScottR

    I think he should have ended it with…
    “you are dead to me!”

    May 12, 2009 at 11:31 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

     
  • #21   QuarterRoy00 bang

    I think the submission of W’s email address to a large number of mass email lists is in order. The more perverted the better.

    May 12, 2009 at 12:23 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #21.1   Diane

      *sigh* I thought about that, too. Signing him up for spam sounds like lots of fun, but also illegal. I think having people mock him in public forums is just as good, and won’t land me in prison. I have considered creating a wikipedia entry, though.

      May 12, 2009 at 9:47 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #21.2   mamason bang

      You can do that? You mean I could start a wikipedia page about my husband’s ex-wife? 8-O
      ok… I gotta go.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:21 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #21.3   Diane

      That’s the marvel of Wikipedia- you can start a page about anything. I’m not sure you can do one for your husband’s ex-wife, but I can certainly do one for W since he’s an internationally published poet and locally produced playwright.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:46 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #22   MeToo

    “But please let Bob in Accounting know that he can (and should) call me anytime.”

    May 12, 2009 at 12:23 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

     
  • #23   Dave Rattigan

    Heh. I think it’s the first email that belongs here, not the second.

    With a sentence like “considering how careful he was to never put anything in print that could possibly damage his reputation as an internationally published poet,” D clearly resented him somewhat already.

    Why would someone who’s been fired want a company directory? And what would possess them to want to pick it up at the place they got fired from?

    “Have a nice day!” is the icing on the cake.

    I smell ulterior motives for D’s email, and more than a whiff of revenge in posting it on here, thereby risking his reputation as an “international poet”.

    May 12, 2009 at 12:24 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #23.1   Snippy

      It was a directory for an organization to which the internationally published asshat belongs.

      If you buy anything requiring assembly, let someone else put it together for you. You’re not good with details.

      May 12, 2009 at 12:46 pm   rating: 36  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.2   Dave Rattigan

      Thanks, D. Don’t have a good day – have a great one!

      [Edit: The wording of D's explanation was quite ambiguous, and suggested to me that the "organization with which he was heavily involved," was the organization that employed him.]

      May 12, 2009 at 12:53 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.3   Diane

      Absolutely correct. I did think it was the right thing to do. It wasn’t a work directory, but a private membership he had paid for and had mail delivered to him at the office, as it applied to his job. And I make no pretense that it wasn’t PA of me at all- it totally was.

      May 12, 2009 at 9:50 pm   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.4   Dave Rattigan

      Heh. Cool.

      May 13, 2009 at 4:22 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #24   Meesh

    So this guy is an internationally published poet AND a member of the New England Independent Booksellers Association? What an insufferable prick he must be at cocktail parties.

    May 12, 2009 at 12:24 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

    • #24.1   anglophile bang

      Do people still have cocktail parties? I imagine people who give and attend actual cocktail parties would be much more likely to be insufferable pricks than your average cross-section of society.

      Maybe I just need to get out more.

      May 12, 2009 at 12:41 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.2   TheOldSchool

      Meesh, I’d bet that D would be a chattering flirt at a party, but I wouldn’t expose my back to her.

      May 12, 2009 at 12:57 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.3   Sirius bang

      Anglophile, you do need to get out more. Drop by Friday seven-ish; a little earlier if you want hors d’oeuvres (those radish-salmon puffs go so fast!). Muffy and I will be delighted to see you.

      May 12, 2009 at 1:05 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.4   Bunnee

      People (read: bosses) at my work still attend cocktail parties. Therefore, Glo’s assessment is extremely correct.

      May 12, 2009 at 1:09 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.5   Ti to the O bang

      I am having a party Glo…
      Smell this cloth…
      :razz:
      I used to love the cocktail parties they would show on Bewitched when I was a kid. I thought that looked awesome. Swilling scotch talking claptrap and balderdash!
      Good times, good times!

      May 12, 2009 at 1:56 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.6   unholyghost2003 bang

      people still have cocktail parties … “Cocktail party” is just grown-up speak for “We are going to get FUUUUUCCCKKKED UUUUUPPPP!” remember, the term “cocktail party” is being made because very little food is served … mostly just booze.

      May 12, 2009 at 2:13 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.7   Bunnee

      I think normal grown ups just call them “parties”. Insufferable pricks call them “cocktail parties”, as Glo said. There’s a fine line between drinking and drinking with assholes….

      May 12, 2009 at 2:47 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.8   anglophile bang

      Oh, ok, thanks for clearing that up, uhg.

      I do, in fact, need to get out more.

      May 12, 2009 at 2:49 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.9   mamason bang

      How in the world do you drink with an asshole?

      I’ll assume you’d need a straw…

      May 12, 2009 at 3:03 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.10   Bunnee

      Verrrry carefully… (and with panache!) :lol:

      May 12, 2009 at 3:11 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.11   Ti to the O bang

      I knew a girl that could sing from her diaphram! Pretty amazing actually, it could be muffled though depending on what she was wearing…

      May 12, 2009 at 3:23 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.12   TheOldSchool

      Mama, it’s called “felching.” I can’t understand why anyone would to do it, but I’m not passing judgment.

      Still, there hasn’t been a single moment of my life when I’ve thought: “Gee, I know what would be fun: sucking semen and fecal matter from someone’s anus through a straw.”

      May 12, 2009 at 3:38 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.13   anglophile bang

      urp :|

      May 12, 2009 at 4:21 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.14   mamason bang

      OMG! So totally not what I was thinking. I was trying to make a simple and stupid joke about someone actually using their butt to drink something and then you *points at TOS with an accusing finger* had to bring up this “felching”. I’m not even going to google it to see if it’s true. I’ve just decided that in my world, felching is just a sick joke and no such practice could possible exist. I need to lie down now. I’m not feeling particularly well.

      May 12, 2009 at 7:26 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.15   TheOldSchool

      Just lay face down. (It’s better for your complexion.)

      I’ll just be sitting on the chair, finishing off this rootbeer flavored Big Gulp. I’m not going anywhere. Aren’t you hot in those panties?

      May 12, 2009 at 9:04 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.16   TheOldSchool

      What am I doing?

      I thought I might have spilled some of my Big Gulp on your butt?

      Why do you ask?

      May 12, 2009 at 9:06 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.17   MeToo

      Nah, don’t Google it – we’ll just wait for I Suck to come along and educate us. He seems like a felcher.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:57 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.18   mamason bang

      Yes, TOS! ON my butt! NOT IN IT! :-o

      What do you mean that’s not a straw? 8-O

      Why’s it all bendy like that? :-?

      May 12, 2009 at 11:03 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.19   TheOldSchool

      The grappling hooks must have settled!

      (I knew swallowing those magnets was a mistake.)

      May 13, 2009 at 12:28 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.20   TheOldSchool

      My mom and her fucking lemon magnet pie!

      May 13, 2009 at 12:29 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.21   Clumber bang

      ..where the hell did Bunnee put that brain bleach…. must remove everything in short-term memory in the “straw” category…

      May 13, 2009 at 8:01 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #25   Laua

    Whatever D’s involvement really was, two words for the poet: More fiber.

    May 12, 2009 at 12:29 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #26   Phalange

    At least he’s a member of NEIBA and not NAMBLA…

    May 12, 2009 at 1:11 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #26.1   much to my chagrin bang

      Either way, he’s not someone I would want to live near or work with.

      May 12, 2009 at 1:38 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #27   TheOldSchool

    The vacuity of D’s mind is exposed in her comment: “i was genuinely shocked to receive his reply, especially considering how careful he was to never put anything in print that could possibly damage his reputation as ‘an internationally published poet.’”

    D, I think the poet chose his words carefully in his reply to you.

    What’s more, I’m certain that telling a faux-innocent, duplicitous ingenue, like you, to piss off could never harm a person’s reputation.

    Maybe your act played well at your sorority, but in the grown-up world the fact that you’re acting is all-too transparent.

    May 12, 2009 at 1:39 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

    • #27.1   E

      Wow, you’ve got some issues there, TheOldSchool. How else would you have had her contact her old colleague? Should she have ignored his mail and thrown it away? What’s wrong, did your wife leave you?

      May 12, 2009 at 2:54 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.2   mamason bang

      Mishee, can you explain to E what we do here?

      May 12, 2009 at 3:10 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.3   TheOldSchool

      E,

      If you can’t see duplicity when it stares you in the face, I’d suggest you get yourself a minder.

      Like my dad said: “There are no $1,000 hookers; only $1,000 johns.”

      May 12, 2009 at 3:24 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.4   RP

      She was supposed to leave a note duct taped to the windshield of his car, written in text-speak with a large black marker, and contained plenty of unnecessary apostrophes and quotation marks.

      Oh, and clip-art.

      May 12, 2009 at 3:58 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.5   Mishee™ bang

      RP – don’t forget the pink penii.

      No PAN is complete without that.

      May 12, 2009 at 4:26 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.6   Drunkenatheist

      Right, E & RP, because it’s not like her former boss’s HR records would have his home address on them. I’ve never worked at a place where it would be a problem to just drop something in the mail to a former employee.

      I’m Team “D must be leaving out some pertinent info.”

      May 12, 2009 at 6:09 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.7   Diane

      Actually, I don’t have access to the HR records, so this was my only way of contacting him. I waited a week to do it, and thought long and hard about it (that’s what she said- sorry, I’ve been watching reruns of The Office). I decided that it was the right thing to do, and I wanted to be polite and professional. I am not shocked that he felt that way. I am shocked that he would put it in writing. I figured it nothing else he would just ignore it. Trust me, I’m going to email my innocent coworker’s (I have records of the complaints lodged against W in my email, and there was nothing from this coworker, although plenty of messages from others) letter next and you can see how completely inappropriate that second response was. It makes his letter to me look like a mild spring breeze lightly scented with lavender perfume and accompanied by a box of my favorite chocolates in comparison.

      May 12, 2009 at 9:58 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.8   TheOldSchool

      Diane,

      I won’t keep you suspense for a moment longer. My favorite chocolates are Mrs. See’s Dark Nuts and Chews. ($19.10 online.)

      May 13, 2009 at 12:35 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.9   Diane

      I’ll send a box right over.

      May 13, 2009 at 1:03 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #28   m

    ah, email.

    May 12, 2009 at 2:01 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #28.1   ryanmalloy

      yes, the post war is over

      May 12, 2009 at 3:48 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #29   mamason bang

    I wonder if they’re still “friends” on facebook?

    May 12, 2009 at 2:38 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   TheOldSchool

      Mama, maybe we should form a private club that is devoted solely to pondering such questions.

      May 12, 2009 at 3:27 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.2   Woman on the Verge bang

      Don’t fall for it, Mama. He just wants to get you alone…

      May 12, 2009 at 3:32 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.3   TheOldSchool

      wotv,

      I thought we went over this. Shhhhhhh. Besides, that’s not ALL I want. Just “phase one” of a very elaborate plan.

      (In fact, it may be overly complicated. Maybe we can make do without the rented scuba gear and the howler monkeys.)

      May 12, 2009 at 4:10 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.4   Woman on the Verge bang

      TOS,
      So sorry. I forgot about the plan. I am partial to the scuba gear… Oh, sorry, your plans are with Mama. Never mind.

      May 12, 2009 at 4:23 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.5   Diane

      He hasn’t figured out how to use Facebook, and would probably decide that it’s too sophomoric for a poet of his maturity and reputation. This is a man who can’t figure out how to send attachments in email. Facebook is too involved. (Nope, not on FB- I just checked.)

      May 12, 2009 at 10:00 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.6   mamason bang

      Can’t even send attachments… hahaha… what a douche! :lol:

      So… how would you go about explaining it to him… I mean, just supposing you were going to explain it to him in the simplest but most detailed terms possible? Hmmm? Oh, I always take notes… proceed. :-|

      May 12, 2009 at 10:27 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.7   TheOldSchool

      Yeah, Diane…. Tell mamason. Go step by step so that even a jackass poet like W might be able to comprehend it.

      (Also you might want to explain to the stupid dummy how to use Facebook. Idiot poet!)

      May 13, 2009 at 12:39 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.8   mamason bang

      I’m gonna kick your ass, TOS. :lol:

      May 13, 2009 at 1:36 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.9   Diane

      If W was on Facebook, I’d send him flair.

      May 13, 2009 at 1:42 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.10   Diane

      If he still worked there, I’d probably end up doing his facebook page for him- he made me do all of his email attachments, I’m sure FB would qualify as something to pawn off on someone else, too.

      May 13, 2009 at 1:57 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.11   mamason bang

      I ♥ flair!

      May 13, 2009 at 2:35 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #30   ClearlyDemented

    I can just see W pacing his mother’s basement with his footy pajamas and sleep cap on, his first day back from the ‘behavioral center’.

    May 12, 2009 at 2:47 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #30.1   Bunnee

      I pictured him with a sword, practicing his samurai moves, jamming out on his kick-ass speakers….

      May 12, 2009 at 2:55 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #30.2   Ti to the O bang

      Welcome to the Hotel California…

      May 12, 2009 at 3:25 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #30.3   Mark bang

      I’ve had a rough night, and I hate the fucking Eagles, man…

      May 12, 2009 at 3:40 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #30.4   much to my chagrin bang

      Jackie Treehorn treats objects like women, man.

      May 12, 2009 at 3:52 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #30.5   Ti to the O bang

      Leads, yeah, sure. I’ll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they’ve got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts!

      May 12, 2009 at 4:40 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #31   Deanna

    I don’t think there’s anything “passive” about that e-mail…. lol. I guess we know who he blames for his firing!

    May 12, 2009 at 3:52 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #32   Susannie

    I don’t know… Something makes me think this isn’t the first email W has received from D. “Please do not contact me AGAIN” and “Refrain from making any FURTHER contact with me” seems to indicate numerous emails. But I could be wrong. Perhaps W is just a snippy writer.

    And also. I might have been too much on this site, but I think the first email has some passive-aggressivness to it. If D had some doubts about his reputation as “an internationally published poet” wouldn’t her suggestion to see a non-exsistant play be a wonderfulle subtle insult?

    Have a great day! (See! You think I’m p-a now :D)

    May 12, 2009 at 4:10 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #32.1   Mishee™ bang

      Hey now…

      I end almost every single one of my work related emails with “Have a great [insert: day, afternoon, weekend, week]!!”

      But then again, I have to browbeat people for receipts they don’t wanna give me, so in reality I am just trying to take some of the sting out of my threat to shut off their Purchasing Card if I don’t get my documentation…

      May 12, 2009 at 4:29 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.2   TheOldSchool

      S, you’ve sussed it out. For girls like d, the thrust of the knife is merely foreplay. The real pleasure comes from the twisting.

      What a fascinatingly decadent young minx she must be.

      I’m guessing she can shoot laser beams from her eyes. Her secret garden? Jaws of life.

      May 12, 2009 at 4:53 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.3   Diane

      It was my first contact with him. It occurred in March, he was fired at the end of July. Yes, it was PA of me. No, I don’t really want to see his play, but I felt like a one-line email about his mail would be rude and abrupt, so I wanted to at least be polite. He truly is a published poet (and a good one, at that) and he really is writing a play (to be performed this summer in the area by a local theater group). I can, in fact, shoot laser beams from my eyes AND my breasts (a girl must always have a back-up plan!) but my secret garden is SO secret, no one has ever left alive. Although you’re wrong about one thing- I find the truest pleasure comes after the knife is removed and the slow-acting poison sets in.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:07 pm   rating: 37  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.4   LawrenceofArabia

      There are many times I am curious as all get out and want more information about the PA notes on this site and who posted it and why.

      This isnt one of them.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:27 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.5   mamason bang

      I’m liking Diane more and more… :twisted:

      May 12, 2009 at 10:30 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.6   Diane

      Mama- Is it possibly because I’m an aggressive and sometimes manipulative bitch?

      Sorry that I’m giving you TMI, Larry. You have to understand that this is very cathartic for me.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:51 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.7   mamason bang

      Whatever you are, I like the way you think. :lol:

      *plus the laser boobies are teh awesome*

      May 12, 2009 at 11:00 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.8   Diane

      I’ve always wanted to ask a plastic surgeon if it is possible to insert something like that. I mean, if you get an enhancement you can make sure there’s plenty of room for equipment like laser beams or grappling hooks. You might a well take advantage of the extra space for storage.

      May 12, 2009 at 11:49 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.9   Mishee™ bang

      Unless you are a fricken shark who has fricken laser beams strapped to the top of your fricken head, then I am not impressed…

      May 12, 2009 at 11:54 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.10   TheOldSchool

      Mishee, don’t pretend you haven’t wished you had grappling hook storage capacity in your tits.

      May 13, 2009 at 12:18 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.11   Diane

      Do you think I can get one of those sharks for my birthday? It’s all I want this year…

      May 13, 2009 at 12:20 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.12   TheOldSchool

      Diane,

      Never mind Larry. I’m still catching up. I have NEI.

      May 13, 2009 at 12:21 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #33   Zhopka

    People, people… An essential moment has been overlooked… Mr Bitter added a CC (carbon copy) to his email response. That’s where the answer is hidden. Who was cc’ed? And why? Poor ol’ D is probably just a pawn in an old, old war…

    May 12, 2009 at 4:15 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #33.1   Woman on the Verge bang

      He cc’d himself. All the cool self-important snobs do it.

      May 12, 2009 at 4:32 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.2   Zhopka

      (why all this new extra time to edit comments? it’s making me nervous… it’s also making me wonder what’s John’s role in all of this… that’s because I’m just sitting here watching the counter, so I can see it hit zero before I go back to work. does that sound weird?)

      May 12, 2009 at 4:32 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.3   Woman on the Verge bang

      Yes, Zhopka, yes it does.

      May 12, 2009 at 4:35 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.4   TheOldSchool

      Z, good catch on the cc, but I still think D was the one responsible for W’s firing, and that the reason she sent the e-mail to him was for the purposes of rattling his cage and rubbing salt in his wounds.

      I wonder if the poster “e” is really “d.”

      I’ve been working for the past five minutes on a poem about “d.”

      Does anyone here know of any words that rhyme with “cupcakes,” “pouty,” and “tonsils”?

      May 12, 2009 at 4:39 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.5   Sarah

      I’m not sure where you get that it’s D’s fault. W just sounds like a douchebag, and you must know how hard it is to compose polite emails to douchebags (unless you have never needed to email a coworker, classmate, or professor). Blargh, amirite?

      May 12, 2009 at 6:18 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.6   mamason bang

      Uptakes… gouty… Hansel’s

      *can’t wait to see what he does with these*

      May 12, 2009 at 8:26 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.7   TheOldSchool

      Mama, I’m having trouble with this poem. I can’t figure out why it’s so damn hard. Maybe you can come over and over over here and help me figure out where to put what.

      May 12, 2009 at 8:46 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.8   Tastelessandless

      It was nice of you to invite her to come over and over. After she helps you, it probably won’t be so hard any more.

      May 12, 2009 at 9:11 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.9   Brooser

      omg, I so totally thought of “gouty” too. =O Don’t forget “fondles”. It vaguely rhymes with tonsils.

      For cupcakes… I dunno. I got nothin’. =\

      May 12, 2009 at 9:47 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.10   Diane

      …. I never even noticed. I will have to check. My guess is it was sent to his girlfriend/publicist, or possibly my boss (whom he also hates). I’ll check and get back to you on this.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:14 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.11   LawrenceofArabia

      If D were a pawn, she wouldnt have publicly posted his note. D probably isn’t responsible for his firing either. She is a real “Me too! Everyone like me, and I will hate what you hate.” kinda gal.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:23 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.12   Diane

      I am partly responsible for the firing, at least in the sense that I reported on him to the boss. But I certainly didn’t make him bad at his job.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:54 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.13   MeToo

      I’ve been dying to know about the CC – come ON, Diane…tell us, tell us!

      For the record, I don’t think you’re entirely cunty.

      I think you should all show up at his play dressed as Rocky Horror Show characters. For shiggles.

      May 12, 2009 at 11:00 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.14   Diane

      That’s awesome. I’m friends with the local RHPS troupe, so I could certainly get the gear, and extra characters. We could do the Time Warp (again!)

      May 12, 2009 at 11:51 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.15   TheOldSchool

      This is strange. I think W hacked into the PAN control center and deleted all of my earlier posts defending Diane and outlining what a prick W must be. That cunning poet hacker prick!

      May 13, 2009 at 12:26 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.16   Diane

      Shit, I completely forgot that at his last birthday party, the office banded together to get him a +5 Mad Hacking Skillz Helmet of L337 Power…

      May 13, 2009 at 1:09 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.17   TheOldSchool

      Diane,

      Was there ever a moment when you felt you could imagine yourself having crazy sex with W?

      Or, at the very least, could you ever imagine yourself not recoiling at the thought of one of his clammy hands touching anything you might later have to touch?

      Admit it. You were in love with him, weren’t you. He’s Mr. Darcy to your Elizabeth Bennet.

      And this little PAN escapade is your way of surreptiously generating buzz for his upcoming play.

      Do I win?

      May 13, 2009 at 1:22 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.18   TheOldSchool

      Diane: re: 33.10,

      I don’t know which of these concepts is the more jaw-dropping:

      A poet has a publicist!

      W has a girlfriend!

      Sunderland has its own RHPS troupe!

      May 13, 2009 at 1:31 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.19   Diane

      The RHPS troupe is the Come Again Players if you want to look them up. They are based in the Five-College area, not specifically Sunderland.

      Well, I’ve been meaning to try felching for a while now, and I might as well go for a big asshole. I think that might make it easier to get the straw in.

      May 13, 2009 at 1:37 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.20   Diane

      Oh yes, I mustn’t forget that he liked to give fist bumps. So I did have to touch him occasionally, but isn’t that what hand sanitizer is for?

      May 13, 2009 at 1:39 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #33.21   mamason bang

      No, Diane. The hand sanitizer is for the baby.

      May 13, 2009 at 2:19 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #34   bigyaz

    Aggressive, yes. But passive? I think he told her quite directly exactly what he thinks of her.

    My guess is she’s pretty clueless if she had never picked up on that before.

    May 12, 2009 at 6:00 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #34.1   Diane

      Oh, I’ve always known exactly what he thought of me, I’m just surprised he wrote it down for the world to see once I post it online.

      May 12, 2009 at 10:16 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #34.2   LawrenceofArabia

      Exacty, bigyaz. I thought the same thing. His response was actually polite and clear.

      What needs translating is HER email, which actually read, “Hi! I just found an excuse to contact you, and wanted to make myself sound like your friend so you will give me any interesting gossip now that your are gone. I will, of course, report it to everyone behind your back. If I were actually your friend, you would have given me your email address long ago and we would have interacted long before now. Please let me feel better about myself by responding with an affirmation that 1) your life sucks, and 2) you think I am a really good person.”

      May 12, 2009 at 10:19 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #34.3   Clumber bang

      LoA…yeah….yep…uh-huh…. Yeah, that’s exactly how I read it, too!

      I find D’s note to be one of the better PA notes, and am secretly glad that she spent some time on it. Folks who can dash off sharp and subtle enough writings quickly intimidate the hell out of me.

      Hence why I tend to pee myself when I read PAN comments…

      May 13, 2009 at 8:11 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #35   longtimelurkersuddenposter

    What’s up with all these blandly named, one initial only, or full name given, first time poster, long time lurker entries? Maybe W’s playing us all for a fool, and his play is actually a post -graduate project on action and reaction on the Net. How to Create a Ruckus, or Kerfuffle -The Play. Maybe D’s rallied the HR forces to rush to her honor. Either way, something’s rotten in the state of D & W.

    May 12, 2009 at 7:38 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #35.1   TheOldSchool

      Shades of John Shade.

      You may be on (to) something.

      May 12, 2009 at 8:48 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.2   W

      Curses! They’re on to me! I must add this to my play!

      *runs away, twiddling mustache*

      May 12, 2009 at 9:50 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.3   Clumber bang

      eeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww!

      (in yer’n household, ‘twiddling’ must have a far different meaning than in mine…) 8^X

      May 14, 2009 at 12:54 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #36   Eric bang

    “Can I have fifty pounds to mend the shed?
    I’m right on my uppers.
    I can pay you back
    When this postal order comes from Australia.
    Honestly.
    Hope the bladder trouble’s getting better.
    Love, Ewan.”

    May 12, 2009 at 8:39 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #36.1   TheOldSchool

      Eric. Hi. You alright? Good. Hey listen, can you show me the bottle that the pills were in? Do you recall how many you took?

      No! Don’t lay down! Mishee’s married. Yes, she is nice. I don’t know how happily. You can ask her when you come down. Let’s just keep walking and talking…on the ground.

      Oh look! The doctors are here! Have you ever been in an aid car? The lights are trippy. No, I don’t see the trails. People are nice. There you go. I’ll tell her. I know you’re serious. OK.

      May 12, 2009 at 8:58 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #36.2   Eric bang

      I see obscure Red Dwarf references go over much better than obscure Monty Python ones here.

      May 13, 2009 at 6:43 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #36.3   unholyghost2003 bang

      awww we love all obscure British humour here ;)

      May 13, 2009 at 6:48 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #36.4   T to the O

      Smeg off! What I wouldn’t do for a nice plate of chicken vindaloo. :razz:

      May 13, 2009 at 7:53 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #37   ian in hamburg

    Why is this passive-aggressive? It clearly points out to the person receiving it not to contact him. There is no innuendo, snide remark, nothing.

    Also, if D played a role in his getting fired as she says she did, why should she be shocked at his response?

    May 13, 2009 at 1:54 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #37.1   Wade bang

      You’re looking at the wrong note, Ian. (D)iane is the passive-aggressive one.

      She was so proud of her work that she sent it here.

      Then spent the better part of the day boasting/gloating/defending her note… that she wrote… and submitted.

      May 13, 2009 at 7:30 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.2   Daisychain

      Go team W!

      Maybe we could all be pa and go out there and write pan’s and get reactions and send them into this site. Wouldn’t that be great. Wouldn’t that be going with the real spirit of discovering an amusing pa off the cuff and posting it in for all random strangers to ponder over? and analyse and imaginatively build up backstories. Wouldn’t that be cathartic?

      May 13, 2009 at 7:54 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.3   Susannie

      After reading Diane’s responses in this thread I’d rather work with W’s overt aggressivness than her cattyness. It’s not passive agressive to gloat and brag about getting someone fired. That’s just mean..

      This thread reminds me of the babysitter thread. I don’t really care for people who take shitty arguments to the internet without the other person knowing about it.

      May 13, 2009 at 7:59 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.4   Banana

      Where’s all this gloating people are talking about?

      May 13, 2009 at 8:03 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.5   Phalange

      Susannie – if you’re not a fan of delighting in the pain and misery of others, I suggest you quit the Internet immediately.

      May 13, 2009 at 8:39 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.6   Daisychain

      Banana. Go up to post 16 and read through the thread, you will witness “D” giving a full one sided story which includes private and confidential details direct from the HR file. Illegal no?

      May 14, 2009 at 7:40 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #37.7   Canthz_B bang

      In addition, Diane lied to Kerry to get her note posted.
      She said she “felt it was only right to contact him” and “was genuinely shocked” to get told off…then came in here and told us she sent the email to piss the guy off and that the guy regularly berated her.
      Does she think it was right to deliberately piss off the guy she got fired?
      Why would she be shocked to be told off yet again by him?

      May 14, 2009 at 8:39 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #38   Canthz_B bang

    Great, the spam filter won’t let me edit my misspellings. Thanks, WP! :lol:

    May 13, 2009 at 3:12 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #39   Matt

    I’m really confused right now… I take it Diane is the aforementioned ‘D’ from Sunderland.

    Is there a gang of people who comment on here who know each other IRL or something?

    May 13, 2009 at 7:41 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #39.1   Snippy

      …and the boy wins a cee-gar!

      May 13, 2009 at 3:15 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #40   Diane

    Shit, now you guys are making me feel bad. I give- W is a saint, and I’m a bitch. I never saw that coming….

    May 13, 2009 at 8:26 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #40.1   Woman on the Verge bang

      Diane,
      Responses here are sarcastic and tongue-in-cheek for the most part. Nobody can know what the situation was really like. Responding just gives posters the chance to push your buttons. People have sensitivities to different things. Don’t take it personally… and consider backing away from the computer. In the long run, you’ll feel better.

      May 13, 2009 at 8:38 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #40.2   Susannie

      You said in a previous post that your email was indeed passive aggressive on purpose. What on earth were you expecting back? I polite answer that ignored your oh-so-transperant loathing..?

      Everyone knows that the only way to address painfully pan is to be painfully polite without leaving room for any ambiguity ;)

      May 13, 2009 at 8:53 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #40.3   Diane

      Verge- that was a sarcastic answer on my part. I actually don’t feel the inital email I sent to W was PA, but I do feel posting it on here qualifies. Posting on the thread is not passive, but active, or maybe non-passively PA? Something- it makes my head spin, sort of like the “I went back in time and became my own grandfather” plotlines in bad sci-fi. I woke up this morning and thought “Shit, I really did write all that.” I was being terribly bitchy, and while I did write what I perceived to be the truth, I’m usually not that nasty about it. So I owe you all an apology (or you owe me for entertainment value, I’m not sure.) But I will definitely not be posting without thinking in the future. There’s only room in my mouth for one foot at a time.

      May 13, 2009 at 2:12 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #40.4   KatieMB

      You’re fine, Diane. It’s not as if you’re the only person who’s ever spoken their mind around here! And yes, we all can be bitchy at times.

      May 13, 2009 at 2:29 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #40.5   RP

      At times?

      May 14, 2009 at 5:01 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #41   Sirius bang

    I come here for my daily dose of laughter, and to practice my ass-hat skills, but every once in a while, I come away with a life lesson. Today’s lesson: I don’t think I will ever fuck with Diane.

    May 13, 2009 at 10:42 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #41.1   Clumber bang

      …yet you should also be afraid to tell her NO if she assigns you such fucking.

      Personally I think fear is a great basis for most relationships.

      May 13, 2009 at 8:13 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #42   Zhopka

    Whoa. I didn’t see this coming. You guys (who understood the situation right away) are brilliant, while I am naive at best. Diane turns out to sport a level of c*ntiness beyond imagination. Diane, if you actually admit reporting the man to a boss, and if you generally hate him as much as you seem to hate him (based on all your little pricky comments all over the place), why on EARTH would you contact him about a stupid catalogue, wish him a great day, and, worst of all, fake interest in his play? That’s an 11 on my 10-point scale of bitchiness. I don’t buy your little “but I didn’t make him a bad worker” excuse. When you report someone and they lose a job, objectivity doesn’t matter one bit – just stay out of their face forever. Given the situation, I am frankly amazed the man responded anything at all. Somehow I hope all your little games come back at you one day. Objectivity excluded.

    May 13, 2009 at 11:57 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

     
  • #43   Nix

    Diane,

    Please note that I am not writing this in the spirit of snark – merely I recognize something of my younger self in your comments.

    I hate to break it to you, but unless you win the lottery or become suddenly, independently wealthy in your youth, you are going to be in the workforce with the rest of us until you are an old woman. Both scenarios are only if you are extremely lucky, as evidenced with the current state of the global economy.

    You are going to deal with a LOT of bad bosses during this time. Some may even make this guy look like Captain Congeniality. If you are one of the fortunate (or unfortunate, some would argue) self-employed, you are still going to have contact with difficult people, be they clients or employees. Not many people are paid to be hermits with no contact with the outside world. In short, you are always going to have to answer to someone else. It’s a sad fact, but true.

    Your measure of success during your long years in corporate servitude will not be found only in the amount of money you make and the promotions you secure for yourself, but in your ability to work well with difficult people and your ability to exercise democracy in the face of aggression and rudeness. You won’t be able to get everyone you disagree with fired – and I’m not saying you want to do that, but I get the feeling you are just starting out in your career, so just a word to the wise. Better to learn now. Start practicing that diplomacy while you are young, and you will make yourself indispensable to employers in the future!

    I am not saying this guy didn’t deserve to be fired or not. I wasn’t there, but his email was certainly entertaining enough. But I can see from the defensiveness of your responses that you haven’t let this go by a long shot. It casts you in a light of entitlement and vindictiveness – and those are not characteristics that employers are going to be searching for.

    Contacting a person that has been fired (for whatever reason) due to something you indirectly or directly did is not exercising good judgment – it’s akin to rubbing salt in a wound.

    In short, you may have won the battle, but you’re just beginning the war! Welcome to the rat race.

    FWIW,
    Nix

    May 13, 2009 at 5:59 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #43.1   Diane

      Thanks for the advice. I have dealt easily enough with rude bosses and with bosses who are bad at their jobs, but to work with both on the grand scale was just too much. I was only one person out of the entire office who contributed to his firing, but I understand what you are saying- from W’s side, that wouldn’t matter. Contact from anyone he thought involved would be antagonistic.

      What’s FWIW?

      May 21, 2009 at 11:06 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #43.2   Nix

      Diane – FWIW = For What It’s Worth

      Jun 3, 2009 at 12:32 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #44   aaa

    Is “internationally published poet” code for “I post my stuff on the internet and I got my parents to look at it”?

    May 13, 2009 at 6:30 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #45   Jame

    Guy sounds like a complete a-hole. TEAM DIANE!

    May 14, 2009 at 7:36 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #46   Jow

    MATE! How do his poems go? I really want to know.

    May 14, 2009 at 11:02 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #47   Obi Wan

    I know it’s kinda late in the game to point this out, but wouldn’t it have made more sense just to forward it through the mail?

    May 14, 2009 at 6:04 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #48   Olivia

    Steps 1, 2, 3 would be too easy…how about another South Park moment?

    “I’m not your friend, buddy!”
    “I’m not your buddy, pal!”
    “I’m not your pal, friend!”

    May 15, 2009 at 11:16 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #49   Sara Pickell

    I know this may be very, very late.
    However, I think it may be wrong to see this as his reaction to the content of her e-mail. Rather, it would be more along the lines of getting an e-mail in your personal inbox from someone whom you not only never gave your e-mail to, but whom you personally hate. My primary concern would be making certain that they never, ever, sent me another e-mail again regardless of the contents they sent in that particular e-mail.
    When seen from that view, the response actually makes quite a lot of sense.

    May 27, 2009 at 8:52 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #50   bcteagirl

    Are we never going to find out who was CC’d? Sigh…

    May 30, 2009 at 3:21 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #51   Dork um Dirk

    Ok, just want to confirm that this person is easily googlable through information in this thread, and that his poetry is fake-Zen old-school Wapanese shite.

    /burn all records/

    /admit to nothing/

    Jun 30, 2009 at 11:03 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     

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