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Let the rest of us eat cake.

January 12th, 2010 · 190 comments

“My roommate in college was allergic to everything,” says Casey in Watsonville, California — and she talked about it ad nauseam. “For her birthday sophomore year, we went to buy her a cake but of course she was allergic to everything good. So in the end, I just got a cake I liked and we bought her some crappy vegan thing that wouldn’t make her break out.”

Sorry you can't eat this! Happy Birthday Kim

(The cake, Casey says, was “delicious.”)

related: “I don’t need a birthday cake,” I said.

extra credit:

FILED UNDER: birthday · cake · mean girls · non-apology apology · roommates

190 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Wade bang

    I’m surprised they didn’t just post snarky Happy Birthday comments on Kim’s Facebook and leave it at that.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 3:54 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   Canthz_B bang

      They couldn’t…she’s allergic to snark.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 11:08 pm   rating: 54  small thumbs up

  • #2   Wade bang

    I didn’t realize someecards had opened a bakery.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 3:56 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

  • #3   Beanster bang

    “sorry you can’t eat this. we are drinking tea.”


    Jan 12, 2010 at 4:02 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   park rose bang

      Umm, maybe they’re not teacups. They look like the inserts to padded bras, pierced. Maybe Kim is really loaded, and the girls are jealous? Maybe Casey wants a nipple piercing, can’t admit it to herself or anyone else, so it comes out subconsciously on the frosting? Maybe she’s got a thing for pierced miniature bra inserts in icing? Or possibly they are upturned suction cups for plunging the toilet once all that sugary goodness (or the laxatives) has done the trick.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 4:37 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #3.2   Woman on the Verge bang

      Have I told you today that I love you, rose?

      Jan 12, 2010 at 4:51 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #3.3   park rose bang

      Shucks, WotV. It’s been a while.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 4:58 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #3.4   park rose bang

      Beans, it was a happy unbirthday. I guess Casey was the Mad Hatter. I don’t know who the door mouse was.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 5:44 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #3.5   a dude

      i think they’re margaritas

      Jan 13, 2010 at 9:29 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

  • #4   Fuschia Grown

    Team Kim on this one. Thanks to the marvels of the modern supermarket, you can have non-vegan cake any damn time you please, Other Roomie. No need to add a big frosted pile of passive-aggressive to the one birthday party a year where Kim can actually eat the cake.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 4:13 pm   rating: 88  small thumbs up

  • #5   Woman on the Verge bang

    What a sincere apology… complete with streamers, tea, and sprinkles. I’m sure Kim was touched by the sentiment. Really.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 4:16 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

  • #6   Umm...

    Gee… Thanks… You shouldn’t have. What else did you get you for my birthtday?

    Jan 12, 2010 at 4:21 pm   rating: 45  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   matt

      give the bitch an epi-pen then force feed the cake down her throat, just a suggestion..

      Jan 14, 2010 at 1:49 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

  • #7   Avi

    Holy crap, Team Kim on this one. Get some better roommates – maybe ones that aren’t complete bitches.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 4:30 pm   rating: 71  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   Canaduck

      No kidding, what a bunch of jerks. And dumb, too–is there anyone around who still thinks vegan cake is actually any different than dairy-based ones?

      Besides, as someone with a lot of food allergies, I can tell you right now that it’s not fun. Maybe Kim is a huge attention whore about it, in which case I can see her friends losing patience with her, but this is still really mean. And it makes me appreciate my friends even more, who understand that I’m not being melodramatic by avoiding foods that make me itchy/vomit/dead.

      Jan 25, 2010 at 11:10 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

  • #8   BeardedDave

    At least one of these miserable roommates was intelligent; that is a Latin textbook on the table.

    Carpe diem!

    Jan 12, 2010 at 4:30 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #8.1   anglophile bang

      More like carpe cakem!

      Jan 12, 2010 at 4:39 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #8.2   park rose bang

      or, have a cardiac seizure after eating all that heart-burny goodness…if the teacups (margaritas, if you will, AQ) don’t get you, the fireworks (or pom-poms) in the corners are sure to.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 4:40 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

  • #9   Michelle

    Haha, it was nice of you to get 2 cakes. Now she can have something that wont kill her, and no one else has to politely say they would rather eat shit than a vegan cake.

    I understand about hearing about someones allergies again, and again, and again, and again…

    Jan 12, 2010 at 4:47 pm   rating: 29  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   Amanda

      While not everything vegan is as good as the “original” vegan cakes are tasty as fuck! Have you ever actually TRIED a vegan cake?

      Jan 12, 2010 at 4:53 pm   rating: 34  small thumbs up

    • #9.2   park rose bang

      Amanda, there’s a way to do this… you decorate ‘fucking’ with ‘delicious’ and you’re up there with fridge pirate.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 5:00 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #9.3   Canthz_B bang

      A contortionist is always welcome.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 11:14 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #9.4   Palomon bang

      Vegans cook up much better in the skillet, not so much as cake.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 12:28 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #9.5   Canthz_B bang

      ♫ Sautéed and simmered,
      The flavor can’t be beat.
      Skillet Vegan,
      The San Francisco treat!! ♫

      Jan 13, 2010 at 1:00 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #9.6   Sassenach

      Perhaps you should consider, Michelle, what it’s like to live with allergies over and over…

      Jan 13, 2010 at 8:43 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

    • #9.7   Michelle

      I have had vegan cake. It was pretty good. I know what most of the population thinks about it, along with anything else labeled vegan. And I do have allergies, why would you know about it? Oh I don’t tell the world about em endlessly. I wish I had an allergy like yours that makes me fart bubbles and sunshine, jeezey chreezy. I’m off to eat some soy, wheat, and tree nuts now. Good day to you sir!

      Jan 13, 2010 at 11:40 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #9.8   BurstingAtTheSeams

      My boyfriend makes the best dairy-free/egg-free cakes ever. (ie: vegan, but, why label it vegan when the idea of not eating animal bi-products scares most Americans silly?)

      But so far the presumption is that Kim wanted a birthday cake in the first place. Maybe she didn’t want one at all.

      Jan 15, 2010 at 2:15 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #9.9   Michelle

      haha, exactly! I once joked how my hummus was vegan friendly, and someone didn’t try it then! Um, ok it’s always been that way. I guess I could put some ham in it or something to please others…yuck.

      Jan 16, 2010 at 7:50 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #9.10   anglophile bang

      Bacon makes everything, including hummus, better.

      Jan 16, 2010 at 8:10 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #9.11   park rose bang

      Some people just like cows*. On their plate. They abhor vegetables. I guess it swings both ways.

      *I know that bacon comes from pigs ;) Just talking from personal experience about a friend of mine.

      Jan 16, 2010 at 10:47 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #10   AQ

    I think they’re margaritas with a slice of lime and salt on the rim.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 4:50 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #11   Amanda

    Team Kim! Way to be assholes.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 4:52 pm   rating: 43  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   Escape Goat

      Thanks for the cake, Casey. I’ll just go back to my room and cry (and take my Benadryl.)

      Jan 12, 2010 at 5:23 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

  • #12   Lisa S.

    My husband went to a vegan wedding, and while he said the rest of the food was all meh, that the cake was absolutely the best cake he’d ever had. Period.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 5:02 pm   rating: 27  small thumbs up

    • #12.1   park rose bang

      That would be a red velvet cake, wouldn’t it? ;) And not strictly vegan.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 5:04 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #12.2   Canthz_B bang

      Shh, what happens in Vegan…stays in Vegan. ;-)

      Jan 12, 2010 at 11:17 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #12.3   Melissa

      Totally this.

      I had a completely vegan wedding reception and was a bit worried about the cake. I got a small one and baked a bunch of vegan cookie bars and such. The desserts were DEVOURED and even my Uncle, who is a total douche about veganism, complemented the cake. He actually sought me out to tell me how great it was. Go go Chicago Diner!

      Not a soul complained about the food. We served “normal” stuff like pasta, veggies, chips and vegan french onion dip, fruit, etc. Those who kneejerk at the word vegan just strike me as childish. Vegan =/= weird tofu and mushy sprouts.

      Jan 27, 2010 at 3:48 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #13   jetjackson bang

    Cake or death!?

    Jan 12, 2010 at 5:23 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #13.1   aaa bang

      Well, they’re out of cake, so I’ll have the chicken.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 6:28 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #13.2   jetjackson bang

      Mmmm taste like babies. Babies on spikes.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 7:15 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #13.3   park rose bang


      Jan 12, 2010 at 7:37 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #13.4   aaa bang

      I like Crazy Eddie.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 8:50 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #13.5   Meesh


      Jan 13, 2010 at 7:35 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #13.6   tinkerbell2

      “Uh, death, please. No, cake! Cake! Cake, sorry. Sorry…”
      “You said death first, uh-uh, death first.”
      “Well, I meant cake.”
      “Oh, all right. You’re lucky I’m Church of England.”

      Jan 14, 2010 at 7:14 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

  • #14   jetjackson bang

    So how exactly does she ‘break out’? Is she like the Hulk or something…


    Jan 12, 2010 at 5:33 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   oi bang


      Jan 12, 2010 at 9:11 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #14.2   MAMARILLA2 bang

      Don’t make me Hungry, you won’t like me when I’m Hungry….

      Jan 13, 2010 at 8:18 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #15   Critical Grass bang

    The year Kim’s roomates bought her a vegan cake, one she could actually eat, the icing on it read:
    “This cake sucks! Happy Birthday, Kim…”

    Jan 12, 2010 at 5:34 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   oi bang

      it’s true.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 9:05 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #16   Hmmm

    Question: Does the cake become more PA, less PA, or about the same PA, if Kim picks up that frosted beauty and drives it directly into Casey’s face?

    Jan 12, 2010 at 5:42 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

    • #16.1   Escape Goat

      It becomes Justice.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 5:44 pm   rating: 36  small thumbs up

    • #16.2   Cady

      And Awesome.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 10:46 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #17   Melissa

    Um, yeah, no offense, but I can’t eat wheat, rye, barley, or oats (which means no regular OR vegan cake) and it’s quite difficult without people doing this type of sh*t. It’s not easy to accommodate a gluten-free lifestyle but I have found that people who are REAL friends actually read the labels and help me eat safely. The reason she probably talks about it all the time? YOU EAT ALL THE TIME and it affects how you feel, especially if you get something you can’t have. So, Casey? Unless you know what it’s like to be in her shoes? Hold off on the judgment and mean-spirited cakes.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 5:54 pm   rating: 70  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   Sorry

      People with weird food allergies are very annoying…sorry.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 6:25 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

    • #17.2   aaa bang

      People who put “Sorry” after a criticism aren’t sorry. Sorry.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 6:30 pm   rating: 67  small thumbs up

    • #17.3   Ruthie

      No, annoying people are annoying. People with food allergies, weird or not, are people with food allergies. The two are not one and the same.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 7:16 pm   rating: 57  small thumbs up

    • #17.4   BillyDinPVD


      True. But some people with food allergies are annoying as hell.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 8:09 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

    • #17.5   Kiera

      Oh uh, “Sorry”, if that is your real name, I want to apologize on behalf of people with “weird” allergies and intolerances. I’m so sorry we ANNOYED your special self with something we were born with and cannot change. Yes, we discuss it all the time, we’re just so silly about things that can KILL us. Have a great day, princess.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 8:23 pm   rating: 64  small thumbs up

    • #17.6   Renagade676

      What drives me nuts is my mother in law has a gluten allergy, whines about how she has it when she visits, sneaks herself a piece of food with wheat in it even though we go out of our way to buy or make gluten-free food for her, and then complains about how bloated she is and how if she get any more bloated she’ll have to go to the hospital.

      Granted, I have a chocolate allergy, but I only say something when someone offers it to me, or when people get me chocolate and get butthurt when I don’t eat it.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 9:03 pm   rating: 48  small thumbs up

    • #17.7   Pterosaur

      Renagade, you earned a thumb for “butthurt.” I’m officially adding that to my vocabulary.

      P.S. Team Kim!

      Jan 12, 2010 at 9:24 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #17.8   se

      Some people are just annoying as hell. not sorry.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 8:03 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #17.9   Weaselbaby

      Well, I know that my lungs fill up with toxic slime any time I am exposed to peanut shells JUST TO BE ANNOYING. The look on people’s faces when I make those funny gaspy/squeaky noises is just priceless!

      Jan 13, 2010 at 10:16 am   rating: 30  small thumbs up

    • #17.10   anglophile bang

      See, now here we have an example of an individual who is a member of both sets. Maybe we need some Venn diagrams here?

      Jan 13, 2010 at 11:04 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #17.11   Woman on the Verge bang

      Because nothing is quite as passive aggressive as a damned Venn Diagram. I never leave enough room in that middle space.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 11:18 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #17.12   mmm...

      @Renegade676: I know a girl who’s lactose and gluten intolerant, but every time someone orders pizza she eats two slices and then complains for the next 48 hours that she feels SO shitty from eating that pizza. Bitch, don’t eat pizza if you’re allergic to it!

      Jan 14, 2010 at 10:49 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #17.13   BurstingAtTheSeams

      My mom and my boss at work are both completely intolerant to gluten. I love trying new recipes and bringing them things =)

      Jan 15, 2010 at 2:19 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #17.14   aaahdidums

      We were all born with something we can’t change but we don’t all dribble on about it endlessly – it’s called life and it will kill you one day. Grow up.

      Jan 17, 2010 at 5:34 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #17.15   JB

      It’s your friends job to help you read labels and manage your allergy? Gimme a break – after living with it for some length of time, you should know what you can and cannot eat. Man up.

      Sounds like you want mommy and daddy…not a friend.

      I have no food allergies…but I do know that I don’t tolerate ingesting bleach for example. So, I try to steer clear of drinking bleach. Not that hard.

      Jan 21, 2010 at 11:39 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #18   oi bang

    WTF? Casey goes on like having allergy is Kim’s damn fault!
    I thoguht friends try to cheer people up on their birthday. no?
    Is she proud of her sadism? Actually took picture and submitted it. Brafuckingvo!

    Jan 12, 2010 at 6:06 pm   rating: 57  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   park rose bang

      Some people think Iced Vo-Vos are fucking delicious.

      Hmm, if the tea cup/padded bra inserts were made of Iced Vo-Vo’s, then they might be Bra-fucking-vos, if fucking collocates with delicious (in some people’s mind).

      It’s a long bra-strap to draw, but I’m twanging it.

      Jan 12, 2010 at 6:28 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #18.2   oi bang

      oh I just saw this comment, it ‘s fucking
      wait for it!

      Jan 12, 2010 at 8:53 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

  • #19   hungrygrrl

    I’ve lived with vegan roommates who didn’t talk about it all the time, but I still knew they were vegan and was happy to make them vegan birthday cakes. They can be fucking’ delicious, though they get stale pretty quick.

    Using a cake to remind a whiney roommate that you’ve heard her whining is fair. In college, at least.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 6:29 pm   rating: 25  small thumbs up

  • #20   aaa bang

    $20 Kim’s annoying and Casey’s an immature crapspackler. It’s more amusing that way.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 6:33 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   tinkerjenn bang

      My first post here…and all because I almost shot peanut M&Ms out of my nose when I read “crapspackler”

      Jan 13, 2010 at 8:03 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #20.2   Miss Shackson if You're Nasty

      You almost crapspackled a little, too.

      Jan 16, 2010 at 10:55 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #21   Handy Man, Crafty Woman

    AWESOME cake!

    Jan 12, 2010 at 7:37 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #22   BillyDinPVD

    WAIT – is this the same Kim as the one on the “Fuck You” cake?!

    Jan 12, 2010 at 8:12 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

  • #23   Kiera

    Wow, pretty shitty thing to do. I can’t have regular cake, either. I know how I’d feel if someone did that to me. By the way, people who have allergies or intolerances to certain food do talk about it all the time. Why yes, we can be so goddamn annoying about something that can kill us! Hahahaha! Why don’t you go see if you can find a class on how to stop being a shitty friend.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 8:15 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

    • #23.1   blahblahblah

      She got two birthday cakes. One she could eat without dying, one which had a joke on it. She took the joke the wrong way. And they all lived happily ever after…

      Jan 14, 2010 at 3:50 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #24   Hierophantria

    There’s a difference between allergies and choices. Yes, vegans who rant and rave are a pain but damn… poor Kim. That was just plain cruel. And ya know what? There are some really great gluten-free cakes out there that even mean monsters like you would like. She probably talked a lot about it out of fear you’d give her something that’d send her to the emergency room. And from what we’re seeing here I see her concern.

    Jan 12, 2010 at 9:24 pm   rating: 50  small thumbs up

    • #24.1   Palomon bang

      I used to work in restaurants. I’m pretty sure I served some vegetarians who simply studied the menu and ordered what had no meat. Or had only fish or chicken, which, in some circles, still counts as vegetarian.
      I know for certain I served people who had to let me know they don’t eat meat.
      Then there’s the guy who asks if the pesto has pine nuts in it. Can he have pesto without pine nuts because he’s deathly allergic.
      I’m allergic to bullets, thus I don’t use pistols as pez dispensers.
      Hiero, m’dear, most of us don’t begrudge poor bastids with real allergies, but constant whiners with borderline eating disorders like vegetarianism are insufferable and a fairly gentle ribbing on a cake from people who after all remembered this girl’s birthday is totally fine.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 1:09 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #24.2   Canaduck

      @ Palomon:

      If choosing not to eat certain foods on the basis that they’re cruel or gross or unhealthy is a “borderline eating disorder”, than I suppose you eat everything–dog, cat, monkey, and human?

      Why does it threaten you so much when someone orders a meal without meat in it? Does it remind you of something you’d rather not think about?

      Jan 25, 2010 at 11:15 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #24.3   Melissa

      “I know for certain I served people who had to let me know they don’t eat meat.”

      Ummm… maybe because a lot of restaurants put chicken/beef broth, fish sauce, etc. into seeming vegetarian dishes? I know I always ask about hidden stuff like that when I dine out. The waiters always seem quite happy to help. And we tip well to show we appreciated their assistance with our food.

      Yeah, we vegans sure are jerks! Asking polite questions about the food we’re going to eat. The nerve!

      Jan 27, 2010 at 3:58 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

  • #25   Canthz_B bang

    “Sorry, you can’t eat this.” is the main reason I changed pick-up lines.

    “Girl, I’d like to sop you up with a biscuit!” just wasn’t doing it.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 1:35 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #25.1   Meesh

      How about “You’re not allergic to chocolate, are you?”

      Jan 13, 2010 at 7:41 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #25.2   Canthz_B bang

      Good question. It’s not easy to convince a woman that her hives are just goose-pimples!

      Not that I haven’t tried! :-P

      Jan 14, 2010 at 12:32 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #26   Havingfitz

    I’m on Team Kim. I have a lot of food allergies and have been accused of making them up. I can’t eat shellfish; my brother once gave me real crab and told me it was artificial. When I started choking and swelling up, he then believed me. It is very hard and frustrating. Casey, had you pulled this shit with me you’d be eating your “delicious” cake in reverse.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 6:55 am   rating: 38  small thumbs up

    • #26.1   N/A

      I had a friend with a ton of allergies and her mother thought she was kidding and just whining until one day she came round for dinner. Mommy dearest served a sauce made with lime juice for dinner and sent her daughter in to anaphylactic shock. If someone says they have an allergy and a severe one at that why would you risk giving them the food even if you think they’re faking?

      Jan 13, 2010 at 2:48 pm   rating: 23  small thumbs up

    • #26.2   Palomon bang

      Fitz, N/A- Lying to someone about the contents of food is wrong, indeed. Still, nobody’s making this girl eat the poisoned cake, they’re making it quite clear she ought not to. Good pals! Good times!

      Jan 14, 2010 at 1:13 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #27   Keira

    Geez, that’s even a supermarket cake. Anything’s better than that. Great way to celebrate her birthday, ugh.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 7:06 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

  • #28   FoxtrotAlph

    This is hilarious. I had an aquaintence like that, it was all he talked about. And he was full of shit. Two strikes.

    It’s not like she didn’t buy her another cake.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 7:11 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #28.1   park rose bang

      Seems a pretty elaborate way to drive a point home. True, though, the submitter is the one who is out of pocket and who has to eat pirates’ ear-lobes.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 7:25 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #28.2   FoxtrotAlph

      Pirates earlobes……….. *snort*

      If this was the only cake they bought, and they ate it in front of her that would be shitty. But this is afunny way of labeling the cake so the allergy girl won’t eat it.
      Maybe the cake buyer just wanted options for the party. I still don’t understand the problem.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 7:01 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #29   Imber

    Vegan sweets are not to be mocked. If they aren’t as good as ‘normal’ sweets it’s because they weren’t made right. Eggs aren’t needed for cookies or cake; I will concede pie is more difficult.
    However, Gluten-free baking is another thing entirely. The poster doesn’t detail Kim’s allergies, but if they included Gluten AND eggs, then I can understand the roomies frustration. Gluten-free is much harder to make from scratch, the mixes are more expensive, and overall they never taste as good as wheaty cakes.
    Also, what’s up with the comment about red velvet not being strictly vegan? As long as the dye you use is not red dye #4 (#40 is fine!) then no reason it wouldn’t be. I just made a red velvet groomscake, and no one noticed anything different about it.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 7:33 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   park rose bang

      It had something to do with the last sentence of the post before it.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 7:49 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #29.2   MrsA

      I was told eggs are needed to help a cake “bind” or it will crumble. Never tried leaving them out, though, so I can’t back this up.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 4:12 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #29.3   BurstingAtTheSeams

      Eggs bind the cake, but other things can be used in place of the egg, such as egg replacer (potato starch is the main ingredient in that, I think).

      Completely leaving out the egg and not trying to put a binding agent in would be a mistake, though.

      My boyfriend makes the best cake I’ve ever had, and it’s both dairy and egg free. It is super good.

      Jan 15, 2010 at 2:28 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #30   adam

    It’s nice that they got the birthday girl something, as well as something they all can enjoy. B-days are about groups of friends celebrating an individual. Everyone has to be taken into consideration.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 7:37 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #30.1   park rose bang

      adam, you are the dragèes on the chocolate (or lemon) cream cheese icing ♥ I vote that we take the deadpan award away from aaa and give it to you.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 7:47 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #30.2   aaa bang


      Jan 13, 2010 at 11:09 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #30.3   adam

      I’m 99% sure that is a compliment. Thanks, i’m glad I add nice decoration to PAN.

      As far as the award, which I think I missed the thread where he was awarded such award and when it was explained, I would never take something like that away from you aaa. You seem to have earned it!

      I think I do deserve some other type of award though. Perhaps a nice plaque .

      Jan 13, 2010 at 1:34 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #31   one badass vegan motherfucker

    People who are bashing vegan cake – have you ever HAD vegan cake? There is no difference to your chicken period laden cakes. I don’t know what kind of cakes you’ve had in the past, but, um, eggs aren’t a necessary component for making a cake taste good. That would be the sugar and other delicious fucking yumminess, all of which would be on a vegan cake.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 8:31 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

    • #31.1   park rose bang

      I know, all this pounding, it’s just so kneadless. And by the way, vegans certainly have a way with words, don’t you think? Their diet must lead to irritable vowel syndrome.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 8:40 am   rating: 32  small thumbs up

    • #31.2   one badass vegan motherfucker

      What the hell are you talking about? If your morals and character were being called into question every fucking day, yeah, you’d be pretty outwardly vocal when people are being assholes. People don’t constantly talk shit about people who don’t eat animal products for religious reasons, because that’s wrong, so why the fuck is it okay to constantly talk shit about people who don’t eat animal products for moral reasons?

      Jan 13, 2010 at 8:52 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #31.3   Woman on the Verge bang

      Actually, badass, here we do talk shit about people who don’t eat certain items for any reason at all. I’m just sayin’.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 9:01 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #31.4   anglophile bang

      *goes off to make herself some bacon and eggs*

      Jan 13, 2010 at 9:09 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #31.5   badass

      Woman on the Verge: Well, as long as everyone is getting equal disrespect! I’m cool with that, haha.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 9:19 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #31.6   oi bang

      oh damn! I am in the wrong thread but I was just following the cool kids.
      *deep breathing*
      what now?
      oh yeah!
      *microwaves the fish! * :D

      Jan 13, 2010 at 9:32 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #31.7   park rose bang

      Hey, badass, I wasn’t interested in your morals, just your dough. You know, whether you were on the up and up, or whether your star was never going to rise. By the way, is this fondness for chips a consonant feature in your life, or just an occasional lapse?

      Jan 13, 2010 at 5:30 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #31.8   anglophile bang

      Careful who you’re messing with there, park rose. I hear there’s some badass vegan motherfuckers around. I mean, you don’t want to get on the wrong side of anyone who wouldn’t hesitate to call eggs “chicken periods”, would you?

      Jan 13, 2010 at 5:53 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #31.9   Palomon bang

      Chicken periods?
      I prefer to think of them as Chicken! The musical

      I also prefer to think of them in omelettes, with mushroom and swiss. Mmmm.

      Team Omnivore!

      Jan 14, 2010 at 1:20 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #31.10   kiwisoup

      I’m pretty sure eggs, milk and butter are a key component in cake…considering it’s most of the ingredients…

      Jan 14, 2010 at 1:49 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #31.11   chefgrrl


      I’ve eaten (and baked) lots of great vegan cakes. Try these cupcakes and then tell me that cake needs eggs!

      Jan 14, 2010 at 3:33 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #31.12   park rose bang

      Agreed. Even my mother’s old Country Women’s Association cookbook used to have a recipe for an eggless chocolate cake. It’s not a new concept. The book dated from the fifties or earlier. We often used to make this cake as kids, when George wasn’t visiting the house. I think it had milk, though, but I know it is not necessary in all cakes.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 4:08 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #31.13   FoxtrotAlph

      Someone needs a hug and validation.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 7:03 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #31.14   Lise

      Vegan cakes can have milk – rice milk, soy milk, oat milk, hemp milk, almond milk, etc.

      And butter is easily substituted with dairy free margarine.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 10:45 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #31.15   B.V.M.

      Why wouldn’t I call them chicken periods? That’s exactly what they are.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 10:48 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #31.16   Sean Jungian

      Ha! Badass V M you’re an idiot.

      It’s funny because it’s true!

      Jan 14, 2010 at 7:01 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #31.17   park rose bang

      Of course you can call them chicken periods, b.v.m. But you’re a badass motherfucker, remember?

      “Chicken period,” just doesn’t cut it. It falls between the fairly scientific, menstrual cycle, and the more coarse ‘on the rag’. Don’t get me wrong, but we’re all about protecting your cred around here.

      ‘Chicken period’ sounds like a child trying out a new phrase. A little too earnest. You know, like when your parents said, ‘It’s not your hoo-hah, it’s your vagina. It’s not a dick, it’s a penis’, and you were the kid that the others steered clear of at school. Though the teachers liked you.

      Now, I know you’re probably just getting the hang of trying out new expressions and all, and making sure that people take you fucking seriously, so wouldn’t it be more convincing to say something like

      “There’s no fucking difference between vegan cakes and your fucking cakes except a vegan cake is made from ingredients that come from the good of the fucking delicious earth, and your cakes can’t be made without your mofo chook discharging an egg 24-fucking-7, fucking or no fucking?”

      Well, I know they don’t lay every hour, but every day, is apt. Btw, nice unintended pun with period laden cake…

      I don’t know if it makes your argument stronger, or if it gets your point across (which is?) but you know, you’ve got to set the tone. Otherwise people might mess with you.

      Jan 15, 2010 at 1:07 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #31.18   BurstingAtTheSeams

      “delicious fucking yumminess”…

      thank godness you don’t eat “fucking delicious yumminess” … or else you might be laden with a unitard as well.

      PS No disrespect meant, as I myself have been vegetarian for over a decade, and dairy and egg free for almost half a year. I’m just not bad-ass and angry about it. I’m very happy about it, rather. And since the word vegan is scary, I try to avoid using it…

      Jan 15, 2010 at 2:33 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #31.19   park rose bang

      Bats, as I have said in other threads, I am flexitarian, leaning more towards vegetarian than canivorian… though I might be leaning toward carnivalian, considering my flexitarianess. This of course, puts me in the first level of Hell along with all the other flag chasers (any way the wind blows).

      Most of the thread, I think, had generally been on Kim’s side, anyway, until the Badass vegans squashed everyone with their combat boots.

      Jan 15, 2010 at 5:22 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #31.20   Thermoregulator

      BVM, I love that and shall now refer to myself as such.

      And vegan is only a scary word/concept to the uninformed. Compassion and good health should never be scary!!!

      BTW why is there so much vegan-bashing on PAN????

      Jan 19, 2010 at 2:42 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #31.21   anglophile bang

      We are equal-opportunity bashers. Those who whine about being bashed get bashed harder.

      Jan 19, 2010 at 5:25 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #31.22   Canthz_B bang

      Flour Power?

      Man, the thinking creature, thinks too much sometimes.
      It’s just food, not a moral issue.
      Ever seen a Vegan lion?
      “Vegan” is neither a scary word, nor concept. It’s just stupid.
      Especially if one would inform oneself of the fact that plants are also life forms. Does not having faces make them fair game? Can you eat a potato that looks for all the world like Richard Nixon?
      Eat a rock. Those are full of minerals.
      Carnivorous animals crave meat by nature. Vegans suppress their natural instincts.
      Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

      Man cannot live by bread alone.

      Jan 19, 2010 at 7:07 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #31.23   park rose bang

      31.20, everyone gets put through the thresher…wait, that’s the coeliacs… and really, the thread was pretty pro-Kim until the badass Vulcans decided it wasn’t. Oh, and the angry ones are so earnestly badass. I want you to take my morals fucking seriously, or I’ll fucking murder you… wait… I guess they’d be cool with that, as long as they didn’t have to eat the kill.

      Jan 19, 2010 at 7:36 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #31.24   Tanizaki

      lol @ derision of “Vulcans”

      I have never understood the problem people had with Spock. Pick up a newspaper and tell me if you think rationality is a problem we have sweeping this globe. It would be nice if people would get a little out of touch with their emotions for a while.

      Jan 19, 2010 at 8:13 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #31.25   Thermoregulator

      Veganism is an old concept and is for a lot of people akin to or part of their religion. So if you want to say vegan food tastes like crap (OK, some of it does), that’s fine. Making fun at yourself or others is hilarious. Getting up on your soap-box and calling the idea stupid (31.22!!) or irrational which happens a lot on PAN and other sites is narrow-minded and rude!

      Jan 19, 2010 at 9:46 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #31.26   oi bang

      if you look closely problem isn’t vegan-ism or carnivorism, problem is self righteous or holier than thou mentality.
      It’s dietary choice and most important word would be here “CHOICE”

      Jan 19, 2010 at 10:01 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

  • #32   Edwina the Defrocked Nun

    This isn’t a passive-aggressive message, it’s a giggly message. No way could this be constructed as mean, especially when Casey & co. thoughtfully got Kim her own, edible cake.

    Try to keep the stuff here truly passive-aggressive – or just plain aggressive – or I’m gonna have to dig into my pile of stuff and send you something.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 8:44 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #32.1   park rose bang

      “My roommate in college was allergic to everything,” says Casey in Watsonville, California — and she talked about it ad nauseam. “For her birthday sophomore year, we went to buy her a cake but of course she was allergic to everything good. So in the end, I just got a cake I liked and we bought her some crappy vegan thing that wouldn’t make her break out.”

      They sound like a real barrel of laughs. But dig into the pile, Edwina…

      Jan 13, 2010 at 8:52 am   rating: 30  small thumbs up

    • #32.2   Critical Grass bang

      I don’t think that’s mean at all b/c friends usually beat you senseless and steal all your money on your b-day, right?! What? Is that just me?

      Jan 13, 2010 at 11:33 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #32.3   Edwina the Defrocked Nun

      eh, Park Rose… I thought we were talking about the message in the picture (on the cake) and not the submitter’s text.

      It gets kind of self-referential when the submitter is also the submission. Maybe that should be prohibited.

      Props to Casey for typing ad nauseam, though, and not the more common ad nauseum. But then, there’s a Latin book in the picture, so perhaps it’s not too surprising.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 1:46 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #32.4   anglophile bang

      Maybe you could start your own blog, Edwina. That way you would have complete control over the content. Just a thought.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 7:13 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #32.5   BurstingAtTheSeams

      I think the owner of this blog typed ad nauseam, not Casey.

      I do hope that Casey is going to become an obese person, since “everything good” is probably not actually very good for her.

      Jan 15, 2010 at 2:38 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #33   Pterosaur

    I suspect that Kim will celebrate Casey’s birthday by baking her an Ex-Lax chocolate cake. “I can’t eat this one either. Happy B-Day Casey!”

    Who’s whining about horrific digestive symptoms now, bitch?

    Jan 13, 2010 at 9:05 am   rating: 35  small thumbs up

  • #34   Sara

    I hate those people that are allergic to everything…or if they eat one flake of a peanut, they’re in the hospital. If that were me, I would just eat what I wanted and die a happy woman. Seriously, life is not worth living if you can only eat 5 foods.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 10:55 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #34.1   oi bang

      yep that’s were the famous last words of my diabetic sugercrazed grand father before he was hospitalized for paralysis(and other scary heart/digestion conditions I can’t remember )and suffered in silent pain because he could not speak. He wanted to die but mercy killing is not legal yet.
      thinking, he did not say happy woman though.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 11:12 am   rating: 23  small thumbs up

    • #34.2   Such a pretty face bang

      Same decision my dad made. No feeding tube for him (even if he couldn’t swallow)! He went to the great beyond a happy man choking on his mashed potatoes. At least, I think that was a smile on his face. (A grimace *is* close to a smile, right?)

      I know … it’s so annoying that my children have to wipe their hands before entering their classroom so their classmate doesn’t have a deadly reaction to the peanut butter sandwich they ate for lunch. Children shouldn’t have to put up with such restrictions!

      Jan 13, 2010 at 2:41 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #34.3   tinkerbell2

      Sara – they hate you too.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 7:22 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #34.4   BurstingAtTheSeams

      Yeah, that’s how my parents felt about my little sister.

      They felt that she should still be able to enjoy peanut butter, even though it would kill her. I’m sure she would have told us how happy she was, if she could have expressed her thoughts.

      Had she lived beyond 18 months, she probably wouldn’t have known anything like the happiness she felt as she stopped breathing in her high chair as my parents lovingly offered her a spoon of peanut butter.

      The funeral was a joyful event filled with platitudes on how great it was that she experienced the smell of peanut butter before her death. Imagine if she’d have to wait until her 30s for such a heart-stopping experience!

      Jan 15, 2010 at 2:45 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #34.5   Sean Jungian

      Good riddance, one less whiny weakling to dilute the gene pool.

      Jan 18, 2010 at 10:39 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #34.6   Canaduck

      Okay, so you’d hit age 3 or so and then you’d eat a peanut–because you eat what you want. That’s an enjoyable life to be sure, and what a “happy woman” you’d be as you die before you’re old enough to go to preschool. You’re a genius.

      Jan 25, 2010 at 11:21 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

  • #35   Kay

    As a person who IS allergic to everything, WELCOME TO MY WHOLE LIFE!!! It’ s always “awww, that’s really sweet that you made that for me but I can’t eat it because I will die…” I feel bad for people

    Jan 13, 2010 at 11:31 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #35.1   Critical Grass bang

      So you don’t even make the effort? You just say sorry and walk away? How rude of you…

      Jan 13, 2010 at 11:49 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #35.2   Lise

      Why should Kay have to go through their whole life apologizing? She has no control over whether she has allergies or not, and shouldn’t have to apologize for it.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 2:22 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

  • #36   Jo

    My fiance is allergic to shellfish. I recognize that it’s annoying to be the food police but someone’s gotta do it when you or someone you love has a food allergy. I don’t like having to ask at every family get-together if there’s shellfish, nor do I feel any better about it every time we go out to eat. I’m not blind to the fact that the allergy mantra gets old fast but his allergies don’t magically go away because I’d like to have a crab rangoon once in a while. So guess what? It doesn’t just suck for bitchy roommates who don’t understand. It sucks for family, too. So quit making people with allergies out to be the bad guy. It’s not like this is a barrel of fun for us.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 1:36 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

    • #36.1   GhostWriter bang

      Your fiance isn’t a bad guy; he just hacks shellfish.

      Jan 13, 2010 at 2:01 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #37   Tina

    Wow! Casey. You are one huge bitch!
    Try living with allergies! Its not fun!

    Jan 13, 2010 at 2:00 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

  • #38   Lise

    yeah, people really choose to have allergies just to annoy people. Get a grip, Casey.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 2:21 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

    • #38.1   Palomon bang

      Oh, c’mon, seriously. Huge difference between someone with a legit allergy and someone whose whole identity is their allergies to food. Huge diff. Allergic to shellfish? Don’t eat shellfish. Yes, that’s a crummy deal, but don’t become a human allergen and blather on about it.

      As others have pointed out in other threads- Casey got her a cake within her tolerances. The note on the other cake could be taken as good natured when you account for the fact that they remembered the girl’s birthday.
      Again: Team Omnivore, evolution’s answer.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 1:29 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

  • #39   Such a pretty face bang

    Casey reminds me of my son’s second grade classmates. They delighted in showing him pictures of bees or teasing that there was one near him because they knew he was allergic to bee stings.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 2:47 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

  • #40   Sean Jungian

    Yeah, I know you allergy-suffering attention whores. God forbid I should go one instant of my life without thinking about HOW YOU COULD FUCKING DIE ANY MINUTE. How is that my problem? Nobody is forcing you to eat anything, and if they are, those are some weird-ass “friends”. Boo fucking hoo, kids with cancer don’t whine as much as you guys.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 5:28 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

  • #41   Dagny

    I cannot believe…really?…this hasn’t been said….

    I think the people need to know whether the cake was merely “delicious” or if it was “fucking delicious”.

    The people NEED to know.

    Jan 13, 2010 at 10:21 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

  • #42   Tanizaki

    Food allergies are God’s way of saying, “You should be dead.”

    Jan 14, 2010 at 12:27 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #42.1   park rose bang

      Oh, I thought His way of saying, “You should be dead”, came in the form of war, pestilence, plague, four horsemen … what else am I missing?

      Jan 14, 2010 at 1:33 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #42.2   Canthz_B bang

      I dunno, rose. You don’t see many animals with food allergies roaming the Serengeti.
      Part of His Plan is that the weak shall feed the strong.

      If you believe in that sort of thing. ;-)

      Jan 14, 2010 at 2:31 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #42.3   Tanizaki

      Rose, maybe one of the horsemans’ names is Can’t Eat Pine Nuts (just like in Dances with Wolves!). However, while I am not a Bible-thumper, I am at least literate enough to know that John of Patmos was writing allegorically about events happening in his time, not some bizarre “end times” prophesy. But hey, I am glad you enjoy those Left Behind books. I hope someone grabs your wheel in case of the Rapture!

      Dying from a food allergy is the worst thing I’ve ever heard of. A true alpha male would die while leading a charge up a hill or porking his hot mistress – having your obituary say you were killed by a delicious fried clam is embarassing beyond belief.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 7:39 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #42.4   park rose bang

      That was a lot more fun to read.

      Jan 15, 2010 at 1:13 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #42.5   BurstingAtTheSeams

      @ tanizaki…

      So the earthquake in Haiti must be God’s way of saying… what, exactly?

      Jan 15, 2010 at 2:50 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #42.6   Tanizaki

      I have heard of plate tectonics, so I don’t think it’s God’s way of saying anything. I am sorry that the public school system failed you so badly.

      I can assure you this, though: no Haitian in a relief line is going to ask the volunteer, “hey, is there gluten in that?”

      Jan 15, 2010 at 3:05 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #42.7   park rose bang

      It doesn’t mean that people do not have allergies, though and do not die of them or have discomfort from them, but we do not hear of them, as, as you have pointed out, there is too much other shit going down, it is not recorded, whatever. I have known some of the least precious people, 60+ year old male friends of my father, who became aware of allergies or intolerances as they got older. They just bring their own gravy to restaurants. But they are down to earth and their quality of life for them (which of course, because they are not living in a zone of poverty, war, blatant destruction – whether man-made or otherwise – was pretty good anyway) has improved. I do not wish death or discomfort upon them or anyone (or most people really – there are a few dolls around riddled with pins that resemble my exes and some politicians). That is all.

      Jan 15, 2010 at 5:32 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #43   kiwisoup

    I have no problem with people with food allergies, but if there’s no food around, I really don’t want to hear about it on an on and on. I have friends who have food allergies that almost never talk about it. Then there’s those people who you don’t even believe because they have every food allergy in the book (I work in food service and deal with it very frequently). As long as you’re not annoying about it and you don’t try to force people to eat your disgusting “alternatives” or get mad at people who eat the things you can’t, or throw a huge fit over “cross-contamination” every time you go out with them then I have no issue with you.

    Jan 14, 2010 at 1:26 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

  • #44   Pers

    I feel for people with food allergies and I’m supportive of the need to keep safe…but it’s the folks with allergies that make it their whole identity. I’ve known a few people with severe or strange food allergies and they always talk about their allergies, how it affects them, how they fear them, how others should do more to accommodate them, blah blah blah. I understand asking a waiter or cook what’s in a dish, but going on ad nauseum, even changing the topic of conversation to steer towards talking about their food allergies. It’s too much. I think some of these folks use their allergy as a way to be the centre of attention a little.

    I went to a party once where a very allergic person would be in attendance. The hostess was VERY mindful of her many allergies and made sure there were a number of safe dishes available for her to munch on. Did she simply enjoy the ‘safe’ food? No. Did she express any appreciation? Nah. Did she find another way to bitch and complain? Yup. She started ranting that ALL of the food should have been ‘safe’ for her, she felt left out of the ‘other food’, that it wasn’t ‘fair’, blah blah. Annoying.

    I’m all for staying safe from potentially dangerous foods, but being discrete and classy about it. Putting your challenges down others’ throats or making them feel badly for eating X when you can’t is not cool. Cheers!

    Jan 14, 2010 at 8:44 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

    • #44.1   BlueAthena

      “I think some of these folks use their allergy as a way to be the centre of attention a little. ”

      I’m glad I’m not the only person who knows someone like this. I wouldn’t ever want someone with allergies to feel bad, but it is hard when you’re dealing with someone who somehow manages to shift every conversation to food allergies. It’s like “Wait, we were talking about computers, so why are we talking about gluten again?” or “Yes, I know you’re lactose intolerant, but we’re trying to decide on a movie to watch.”

      Jan 14, 2010 at 11:37 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #44.2   Pers

      Thanks BlueAthena – I felt a little guilty even just writing that part. I found with this friend and others I’ve known with challenging food allergies would feel the need to steer the conversation to their allergy obstacles.

      I let the friendship fade away – maybe if I would have been more assertive, I could have told them what I thought/felt and the friendship could be rescued, but after hearing about gluten, shellfish, peanuts, etc… over and over during every outing, I decided to let the friendship rest in peace. The person I have in mind would also get very defensive about allergies and everything else, so a confrontation would have just been trouble.

      I understand wanting to alert people to allergy risks, but becoming obsessive, and expecting others to become equally as obsessed with your allergy is not fair to others.

      Just my Canadian two cents ;)

      Jan 14, 2010 at 12:04 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #45   katje

    Team Kim. Casey got her “some crappy vegan thing”? Why couldn’t she have sprung for one of the many awesomely delicious vegan things that are available? If she didn’t have access to a vegan bakery, there are tons of excellent recipes. Vegan Cupcakes Take Over the World is a good place to start.

    Jan 14, 2010 at 10:31 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #45.1   Tanizaki

      I think Casey was saying that “vegan” anything is crappy. She’s not wrong.

      I don’t understand how vegans can ever own or sell a house. No one in my state (Florida) would think to buy a house without a termite bond, and most lenders require it.

      Jan 14, 2010 at 11:16 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #45.2   katje

      So you’ve made a thorough investigation of all vegan foods and deemed them “crappy”?

      Jan 14, 2010 at 12:02 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

  • #46   ArchedEyebrow

    Goodness, people. I must say all this commentary back and forth hashing out food allergies vs. food preferences, annoying vs. whining, life vs. death is just exhausting.

    *takes a satisfying sip of a perfectly chilled martini*

    Ahhh . . . there, much better. Now then, a perfect example of how a situation such as this can be handled:

    Daughter 1: (low voice to waiter) May I have a dessert with no nuts. I’m allergic to them.

    Daughter 2: (from across table to Daughter 1, smiling) I’ll order one without nuts, too, so you don’t feel different.

    Daughter 3: (to waiter) I’ll take all their extra nuts, please.

    Father: (alarmed) Nuts? I thought none of the boyfriends came with us to dinner!

    Mother: (soothingly) No, darling, all the boyfriends were at dinner last night. And we didn’t have any nuts in the dessert.

    Gramps: (glaring and rapping cane on floor) Tarnation! Who said I was nuts?

    There you have it. My beautiful family in a *ahem* nutshell . . . love, friendship, tolerance and (just a slight bit) insanity.


    Jan 14, 2010 at 12:58 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

  • #47   HonestB

    If you want to use her birthday as an excuse to buy yourself a present you want, maybe get yourself a cookbook, or some sort of handbook to being less of a jerk.

    Jan 14, 2010 at 4:07 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

  • #48   Megan

    That’s a seriously horrible cake. I don’t care how fucking annoying someone is, you are automatically a terrible person if you get someone something like that for their birthday. (and yes, I do have food allergies. But no, I’m not annoying about it)

    Jan 14, 2010 at 9:00 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #48.1   Sean Jungian

      Well, you’ve already annoyed me…..

      So that myth is busted!

      Jan 14, 2010 at 10:55 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

  • #49   Quietmarc

    I have no allergies at all and it’s AWESOME (-everything- is fucking delicious!!!), but I’m Team Kim. If it was a potluck or generic gathering, it’d be fine, but basically they decided their pleasure was more important than Kim’s on her birthday.

    She should eat the cake and make them wait in the emergency room until she’s better.

    Jan 15, 2010 at 5:51 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

  • #50   Mike

    No food allergies here, but I still have to side with Kim. Having food allergies is quite different from being a vegan – there are a lot fewer choices and almost no after-school clubs. Also, we haven’t heard Kim’s side of the story, maybe Casey is just as annoying. It wouldn’t come as a complete shock, seeing as how for her roommate’s birthday she opted to buy a cake SHE liked and got Kim “some crappy vegan thing that wouldn’t make her break out.” Wow, way to have high standards, because that’s what every girl wants for her birthday, something “crappy.”
    Casey seems to be quite proud of herself too, judging by the fact that she sent in a picture of the cake as if to show how generous yet witty she is. If this girl is bragging about the fact that she bought herself a cake on someone else’s birthday, I get the feeling Casey isn’t the only roommate with something to complain about.

    Jan 15, 2010 at 7:56 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

  • #51   Realist

    What ever happened to survival of the fittest? How can we breed the master race if we keep letting all the weak folks get by with this allergy crap? And what makes it worse is that these people apparently can’t take a joke.

    Jan 18, 2010 at 11:47 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #52   Frau Schlau

    You are magnificent!!! Just remember: Hitler was a vegetarian. Maybe you saved democracy :-))) LOL

    Jan 18, 2010 at 4:34 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #52.1   park rose bang

      Good point, Frau. He of course favoured eugenics, a viewpoint pointed out/ implied (invoking and expanding upon Godwin) by Tanizaki and Realist and others in the thread.

      Maybe, as an alternative, we should look towards those great meat-lovers such as Catherine the Great and Pasiphaë for guidance.

      Jan 18, 2010 at 6:27 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #52.2   Tanizaki

      Straw man. I never endorsed eugenics, implicitly or explicitly. I simply pointed out the fact of natural selection. Humans are not special – it applies to us just as much as to bacteria or penguins.

      Jan 19, 2010 at 8:15 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #52.3   park rose bang

      Tanizaki, at 42 you did not mention natural selection, you mentioned God. You explicitly said that Food allergies are God’s way of saying, “You should be dead.”. To my mind, natural selection and belief in a god is not the same thing. I associate natural selection with Darwin, and even if he was a Christian, I think it is dangerous to mix religion and science and to say that they are the one and same. I fully believe in evolution, but you did not mention it.

      Additionally, circumstance will affect us as much as diet, or can, such as the case of the Peppered Moth, and it might be that in the future some people who eat a certain way because they have had to seek out food alternatives will actually survive if other more regularly used food alternatives dry up, develop blight or disease, are patented so that no-one can use them and so on.

      Additionally, even though people with allergies should die according to your logic (due to God), you do not think that the earthquake in Haiti was an act of god because you had heard of tectonic plates. Was the word allergy foreign to you before you joined this thread? Unfortunate things happen, it is true. I think it is unwise to blame them on a God. I think it is not necessarily wise to justify them due to science at all times, either.

      Jan 21, 2010 at 12:31 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #53   tinkerjenn bang

    Vegans confuse me.

    Our teeth are set up to tear meat.

    Scientists have also discovered that plants “scream” when they are damaged. What’s left to eat? The logic seems flawed to me.


    Jan 19, 2010 at 8:39 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

  • #54   .

    Eat a vegan cake and then criticize it.

    Jan 19, 2010 at 10:29 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #54.1   park rose bang

      What, you think that none of us here have ever eaten/cooked a vegan cake or meal? That they really are that rare and hard to come by? None of us have gone to a vegan/vegetarian restaurant? None of us are vegan/vegetarian?

      Jan 20, 2010 at 4:37 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #55   Anorkian

    Wow, Jesus Christ. Team Kim!

    My bestie has a severe allergy to not just dairy, but eggs as well. Although the eggs thing is usually fine, zie constantly has to harp on how zie can’t have dairy; it’s so fucking severe that zie has gone into seizures from it before when people have slipped zem dairy because they didn’t believe zie had an allergy.

    This doesn’t happen with eggs. Zie is not forced constantly into saying, “I have an allergy to eggs,” but zie IS forced into doing that with dairy. Why? BECAUSE ALL YOU TWITS EAT DAIRY IN EVERY GODDAMN THING, THAT’S WHY. And even more, people will start unconsciously upping their dairy intake once they know, simply because of some screwed up cognitive dissonance thing, like: no, it’s fine to eat dairy, i swarez it it must be fine thats what they told me and animals are here for my pleasure scream.

    On top of that, zie has to come off as annoying because people will assume it’s lactose intolerance instead of an actual life-or-death allergy and refuse to admit there’s whey or casein in the food.

    If you don’t want someone with an allergy to continuously bitch about it, maybe you should take a second and think that they might not trust you.

    P.S. Getting a separate cake makes you a shitty friend, too. If vegan cakes are crappy, then there’s two options: 1) the person who made them is crappy at baking, 2) you are so convinced it won’t taste good that it doesn’t.

    Jan 21, 2010 at 8:58 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #55.1   kiwisoup

      You’ve just demonstrated everything that’s wrong with naggy people with allergies…somehow pulling it off without even having them yourself. You blame people who have no problem eating dairy, totally overreact with your exclamation points and caps and name-calling. PS-what’s with the zie and zem? wtf

      Jan 22, 2010 at 3:43 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

  • #56   orinoco womble

    Of course we all know that Kim’s birthday is all about her friends, not her at all! Right? I mean, why celebrate the person’s life in a way that honours them, when you can insist that there be food and entertainment tailored to your wonderful wants and needs? Why be friends at all? Oh, yeah–she is the one with the birthday (ie excuse for you to party for an hour or so.)

    Tell you what, “friends”–why don’t y’all just go out for whatever and leave Kim in peace. It’s probably the best gift you could give her.

    Jan 23, 2010 at 7:26 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

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