Just in case you haven’t gotten your daily fix of working-mom guilt…

January 28th, 2010 · 218 comments

“During the past few weeks, our  preschool-aged son has been trying to play games that are too violent for his classmates,” Juli says. “We’ve been trying to work on the problem with the teacher, but each morning’s drop-off has become a guilt and angst-filled time for me, in part because I can tell the teacher is trying to be nice but is so obviously annoyed by my child that I can’t control!”

(No need for siding with “team preschool teacher” or “team mom,” here — this kind of relationship is just emotionally fraught no matter how you slice it.)

Eric and his friends had fun playing zookeeper outside today!

And of course, the guilt doesn’t stop there. Jennifer in St. Cloud, Minnesota, found this note in her son’s lunchbox (along with most of a ham sandwich).

The Montessori Method of Passive-Aggression

related: This is all about the childern.

FILED UNDER: guilt trip · kids · Moms & Dads · smiley


218 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Kelly

    Maybe Ivan is just pondering a conversion to Judaism or Islam, but was scared to let mom know because of her devout Catholicism.

    Jan 28, 2010 at 6:22 pm   rating: 82  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   Pishposh

      Or he’s worried that his grandmother would send him a P-A letter concerning his faith.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 11:19 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.2   winterborn

      You mean I should have saved the letter I got from MY grandmother in December?! It was written on the wrinkled program from a performance of Handel’s Messiah… The subject matter? My conversion to Judaism.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 9:15 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.3   anglophile bang

      psst! winterborn! ;)

      Jan 31, 2010 at 9:43 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #2   sheesh

    Hey thanks, miz preschool teacher. Before your sage advice, I had no clue how to explain to my son why stabbing is bad.

    Jan 28, 2010 at 6:24 pm   rating: 65  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   TheOldSchool

      Yeah, it’s a pity the teacher didn’t elaborate further.

      (It would have been even more instructive to include a couple of Weegee’s bloody homicide victim photos for illustrative purposes.)

      “Look, Eric. This is what we call a Chicago smile.”

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:04 pm   rating: 44  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.2   Woman on the Verge bang

      I’ve missed you, TOS.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:16 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.3   mamason bang

      Oh! Now it makes more sense. I thought it said the “stubbing” incident.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 8:37 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.4   CrimsonSky

      I’m with mamason. I read “stubbing” too, and had so many more questions until I read this.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 9:17 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.5   Car RamRod

      Stabbing could mean alot of things in this case. I mean yes, if the kid actually took a pocket knife or a pencil and drew blood from one of his classmates, perhaps he’s a disturbed little individual. Though nowadays with this yuppie tendency to overreact to normal child’s play, I’m inclined to believe he probably picked up a stick and pretended to stab his buddy. I’m so sick and tired of this strange, sheltered vision alot of people have for child-rearing these days. As long as no one’s going to the hospital, kids have to be able to express themselves, even if the play is a bit rough. This calling of the police over fistfights in middle school is ridiculous. If kids can’t vent their anger and frustration towards each other, they bottle it up inside, and one day you end up with another Columbine.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 12:10 pm   rating: 39  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.6   mystic_eye_cda

      Exactly.

      I mean I’m not thrilled that my son wants to play “Star Wars” and going “bang bang” and the other person falls down dead BUT its still better than when if other kids did the same thing anywhere near him he’d panic and cry (and this is a kid that never cries)

      Kids like to act out things they don’t understand they also like to be “controlling”/powerful. My kids really don’t understand the difference between “bang bang you’re dead” and “freeze” -he don’t know the difference between fake sleep and fake death. And God willing it will be many years before I have to explain the difference between sleep and death because trying to teach my 4 year old not to let other people touch his penis and not to play with his penis in public is enough insanity for this mommy.

      If mommy with the “violent” child wants to show this to the “teacher” that may help:
      http://www.mothering.com/parenting/bang-bang-youre-dead

      (PS uhh where does the school get off teaching my kid “just say you don’t like this and you get something else to eat”???? What do they think the kid’s going to starve to death without lunch?)

      Jan 30, 2010 at 7:56 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.7   park rose

      WotV, you know the thing most missed? The thumb fairy. Ah, good times.

      Feb 1, 2010 at 5:38 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.8   Maas

      Thanks to that teacher, I now know that we don’t hurt people because hurting people is hurtful, as is the teacher’s use of i.e. when clearly he or she should have gone with e.g., but what kind of preschool has a “we don’t play games” rule?

      Feb 1, 2010 at 4:18 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #3   Crystal

    I’d be pretty ticked if the were feeding m kid jelly sandwiches without my permission…just sayin’

    Jan 28, 2010 at 6:24 pm   rating: 96  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   Melissa

      Seriously. Hey, thanks for undoing all of my work on raising a non-picky eater and replacing it with a nice “Don’t like your protein? Here’s some sugar!” lesson.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 6:32 pm   rating: 148  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.2   TheOldSchool

      Melissa, I think you’re jumping prematurely to conclusions about the sugar content in the remade sandwich. The staff may have been using contraceptive jelly.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:08 pm   rating: 69  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.3   Pterosaur

      Jelly? WTF? Everybody knows that you throw that nasty ham against the wall and fill the sandwich with Fritos and Pixie Sticks.

      What are they teaching these kids today?

      Jan 28, 2010 at 8:26 pm   rating: 74  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.4   BeardedDave

      If you want to control what your young child eats don’t let someone else raise them.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 11:38 pm   rating: 39  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.5   Girl Friday

      Let the kid play Grand Theft Auto and he could start buying his lunch with money earned from selling the teachers cars he stole during recess – or he could start pimping out the little girls during nap time.

      Better than letting the teacher feed him jelly…I’m just sayin’.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 7:37 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.6   AnonEMouse

      Pterosaur, it’s a statue you throw it against and then fill it with fritos and pixie sticks. :)

      Damn kids. Get off my lawn.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 4:53 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.7   angela

      I would throw a fit over subbing ham with jelly too. If the kid gets hungry enough he’ll eat ham and like it!

      Jan 29, 2010 at 9:57 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.8   Megan

      Naw, that kid is smart. Do you even know how many preservatives they put in deli ham? (or any ham for that matter). It’s pretty disgusting. A few tablespoons of pure sugar would be better for you than that crap : )

      Jan 30, 2010 at 12:17 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #4   secondsout bang

    Wait, what the hell is the stabbing incident? Mom, don’t leave us hanging!!

    Jan 28, 2010 at 6:29 pm   rating: 41  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   Canthz_B bang

      The “hanging” incident is so last week, but I have to wonder if Eric was playing Star Wars, wielding his imaginary light saber, or Zorro when Miss Children Using Their Imaginations Is Bad For Them caught him.

      God only knows how many Cowboys, Indians, Cops and Robbers I snuffed out as a kid. Plus, I think I singlehandedly destroyed the Nazi armed forces one summer.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 11:28 pm   rating: 48  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.2   anglophile bang

      I don’t think kids play Zorro any more, CB. They play Pokemon, I think. I don’t know how much stabbing is involved.

      When I played cops and robbers, it was a rule if you were the robber you had to stop to get a tank of gas in your Big Wheel. That’s when the cop always got you, at the gas station (i.e. the garden hose).

      Jan 29, 2010 at 4:24 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.3   sheesh

      No stabbing in Pokemon, only practice at rooster and dog fighting. Wouldn’t want to get your own hands dirty, you know. Have your pets do the fighting for you.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 11:53 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.4   Juli

      I’m Eric’s mom – I’m sorry to say he’s nuts for Jaws and reenacts ‘scenes’ like crazy. So the stabbing was at the shark, and there is also the scene of him being Quint getting eaten by the shark, or him being Roy Scheider shooting the shark (Smile you son-of-a….) You get the picture. Apparently the 3 year old girls weren’t thrilled. I learned that the rule is if a game isn’t making everyone smile and laugh, they can’t play it. Poor Eric.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 1:37 pm   rating: 38  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.5   anglophile bang

      So, um, you’ve let your pre-school son watch Jaws over and over so that he has favorite scenes?

      And then you wonder why the preschool teachers are telling you the play your son favors is inappropriate?

      And you think a 3 year old girl should understand that your son (possibly older?) is just pretending to be violent and it’s all fun and games?

      Interesting.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 2:09 pm   rating: 53  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.6   NoAdditives

      Next he’ll be in the basement playing “Lambs” with one of those little girls like Cartman on South Park.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 5:06 pm   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.7   Canthz_B bang

      Juli’s comment is rated PG. Parental Guidance is suggested…someone please give this parent some guidance.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 2:34 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.8   mystic_eye_cda

      Oi whatever.

      Juli let your kid watch Jaws if he wants. I’m not exactly thrilled that Lego Star Wars (video game) led to watching the Star Wars movies (which are probably waay more violent than you remember unless you watch them with your kids). But its not going to scar him for life either.

      And I bet Canthz B is one of those parents that watches the news in front of their kids -which has led my local school board to have to send cousellors to classes because kids as young as 3 were showing signs of PTSD because of watching news about Haiti!

      The rule should be:
      1) If you don’t like what/how someone is playing go play somewhere/with someone else
      2) Don’t scare other kids or make them cry. If someone says stop, then stop.

      Telling a child that if they don’t like something then everyone has to stop is way too much power for one child. How much self-entitlement are we teaching kids at age 3?!

      Jan 30, 2010 at 8:04 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.9   anglophile bang

      I’m sorry, but I’m not quite following you, m_e_c.

      You seem to be saying that if your kid wants to watch a movie which is clearly inappropriate for his age, oh well, he gets to watch the movie anyway and there’s nothing you can do about it?

      And then you say a rule should be “Don’t scare other kids or make them cry. If someone says stop, then stop.” And we know directly from Juli that “our preschool-aged son has been trying to play games that are too violent for his classmates”, so clearly he was told (and rightly, as I’m sure Juli realizes) to stop.

      Are you saying that not wanting to be scared is a sign of self-entitlement? In a three year old child?

      Don’t even get me started on somehow your kid magically knows Star Wars is pretend and Haiti is real. Horrible scenes on tv are horrible scenes to a 3 year-old. That’s why it’s inappropriate to let them watch horrible scenes.

      I am dumbfounded.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 8:26 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.10   anglophile bang

      Now, I don’t know how CB raised his kids, but my guess is his family ate dinner together with the tv off around the time of the 6 o’clock news and I bet my life his kids were in bed before the 11 o’clock news.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 8:46 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.11   beanster

      i feel like violent gory movies aren’t the sweet for 3 year olds. however, it’s Jaws, and so i’m having a really hard time suggesting that there is an exception to my “every human being in the world should watch the movie every day” rule. because i really think that rule would help most people out.

      fun story, the link in my name is from the last time i posted without signing in. still relevant!

      sharks win.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 9:39 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.12   Canthz_B bang

      You’d be very close ‘Glo.
      We watched Jeopardy! during dinner, and my children were in bed at 8 below age 6.

      Hell, I didn’t even get them Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat until the youngest was age 9, they were good with Pocahontas, Sonic, and Mickey Mouse video games.Not that they didn’t want the violent games, but the job of a parent is to give them what’s most appropriate, not what makes them most happy.

      However, if you do chose to watch the news with your children, it is your obligation to explain it to them in terms which they can understand, not just put footage in front of them.
      I watched the news of the Vietnam War each night with my mom, and she explained to me what I was seeing.
      I knew where on our globe to find SE Asia and New Jersey, and never had a bad dream about the VC attacking my town.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 9:24 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #5   jetjackson bang

    That little bastard can express his dislike as much as he wants but he will learn to eat what he is given. We have included brass knuckles in his lunch box. We find the choice close “Ham sandwhich or knuckle sandwhich?” works particularly well with Ivan.

    We thought you should get some backbone! :D

    Jan 28, 2010 at 6:42 pm   rating: 63  small thumbs up

     
  • #6   TheOldSchool

    If young Eric is a homicidal psychopath (and we have no reason to believe he’s not) Juli should wise him quick to the fact that stabbing is a sucker’s game.

    There are many ways to settle scores that are just as effective as stabbing, but they can be employed discreetly, thereby avoiding detection.

    If Juli doesn’t do it, somebody in juvey will.

    Jan 28, 2010 at 6:58 pm   rating: 33  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   mamason bang

      It really depends on how emotionally involved young Eric is in a given situation. Sometimes playing sniper just isn’t as satisfying.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 8:42 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.2   Mo® bang

      I agree a nice shiving is soooo relaxing and therapeutic, of course a good ol’ garrote is quite nice too.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 8:45 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.3   NoAdditives

      Don’t you mean, “a nice shanking?” As shank is the verb, shiv is the noun.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 5:01 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.4   AuntyBron

      Rule #1 – Don’t get caught
      Rule #2 – Blend in, don’t get noticed.
      Rule #3 – If (God forbid) you do get caught, if your neighbors can’t describe you as “He was real quiet, kept to hisself alot” you have not done your job as a homicidal maniac.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 12:07 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #7   Woman on the Verge bang

    I love the quotation marks around “stabbing”. It just poses all sorts of questions. Was it an actual stabbing with a preschool shiv (those triangle blocks are pretty sharp)? Or was Eric “stabbing” Susie in that special way? Or is “stabbing” a euphemism for poking the teacher on the shoulder repeatedly as she tries to read aloud?

    Jan 28, 2010 at 7:05 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   TheOldSchool

      wotv,

      Do you recall the Fort Hood shooting that happened a couple of months ago? Remember all the stories about all the warning signs that the shooter gave, but that nobody acted upon?

      I’m not asking these questions because I think that Eric is a pre-k serial killer waiting to happen. I’m just asking because I was wondering about your memory.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:20 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.2   Woman on the Verge bang

      Your concern is so sweet, TOS. I remember all kinds of things. What were we talking about?

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:26 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.3   Palomon bang

      The dagger that never wounds.
      The wound that never heals.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 11:11 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.4   Palomon bang

      TOS- your post is a warning.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 11:49 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.5   Beth

      Did I detect a gigglebrax somewhere in there?

      Jan 29, 2010 at 5:00 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.6   AuntyBron

      TOS, The Fort Hood shooter was not a serial killer, he was a spree killer. Scary that I know the difference.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 12:10 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #8   Paula

    And this is why I homeschool…

    Jan 28, 2010 at 7:10 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #8.1   TheOldSchool

      Because of Passive Aggressive Notes?

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:21 pm   rating: 52  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.2   anglophile bang

      Because you can’t trust your kid not to stab his classmates?

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:30 pm   rating: 68  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.3   Critical Grass bang

      Because of the kids who don’t eat ham?

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:36 pm   rating: 62  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.4   farcical aquatic ceremony

      Because it’s better that your kid hurt pretend friends than pretend to hurt friends?

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:46 pm   rating: 93  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.5   Silence

      Because you believe in a jelly-free world?

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:52 pm   rating: 36  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.6   mamason bang

      Because teachers today can’t spell “incident” and have such poor penmanship?

      Jan 28, 2010 at 8:45 pm   rating: 48  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.7   Critical Grass bang

      Because of the imminent danger of a teacher feeding jelly to your child?

      Jan 28, 2010 at 8:47 pm   rating: 35  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.8   Neeners

      Thank you teacher for feeding my child fruit flavored high fructose corn syrup on white bread….that’s so much better than the ham. Oh by the way, did I mention my son is a diabetic?

      I had to take him to the hospital after he went into a sugar coma later that evening.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 10:45 pm   rating: 41  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.9   Neeners

      Sorry broke the because chain…..god what a loser!

      Jan 28, 2010 at 10:49 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.10   Canthz_B bang

      Because you’re afraid the teacher will steal your kid’s ham sandwich and leave a note blaming the kid just in case of tattling?

      Jan 28, 2010 at 11:42 pm   rating: 23  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.11   aaa bang

      Because the teacher uses incomplete sentences?

      Jan 29, 2010 at 2:55 am   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.12   HappyNat

      Because you want your shelter you child from all interactions with peers until they go to college?

      Jan 29, 2010 at 6:36 am   rating: 32  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.13   anglophile bang

      Because you’re afraid your child will catch The Gay if he eats jelly sandwiches?

      Jan 29, 2010 at 7:36 am   rating: 55  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.14   AuntyBron

      Because your kid likes to pretend he’s Roy Scheider?

      Jan 30, 2010 at 12:12 am   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.15   mystic_eye_cda

      HappyNat

      “Because you want your shelter you child from all interactions with peers until they go to college?”

      How many times when you were growing up did a teacher tell you “You aren’t here to socialize”

      Homeschooled kids aren’t sheltered. Sheltered kids are sheltered. Homewchooled kids are usually involved in more sports, play dates, and other group activities than other kids.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 8:12 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.16   Wade bang

      because the world needs more homewchooled kids?

      Jan 30, 2010 at 8:55 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.17   Renagade676

      My son is homeschooled. He has play dates and we play at the park next door when the weather is nice.

      I home school not because I don’t like public school, but because my son and I have such sensitive immune systems that we catch everything. I believe that schools should have a no tolerance policy with sick children.

      Honestly, parents, if they’re sick, they aren’t going to learn anything today. All you’re doing is sharing the bacteria/virus with everyone else’s kids.

      How many so-called “childhood illnesses” would disappear if we all did this?

      Jan 30, 2010 at 10:15 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.18   Wade bang

      It is my understanding that people who homeschool their children are lousy tippers. I heard it on the internet so it must be true.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 10:26 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.19   anglophile bang

      Newsflash, Renagade676 (hope you’re getting someone else to teach spelling): The only way to build up your immune system is to expose yourself to germs.

      Also hope you’re going to get someone else to teach biology.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 10:33 pm   rating: 46  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.20   infant tyrone bang

      OK, at the risk of appearing inattentive and/or a poor speller, what did Renegade 676 misspell ? I read the posts twice and didn’t notice anything.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 11:35 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.21   anglophile bang

      You automatically corrected it in your post, ty. ;)

      Jan 31, 2010 at 6:41 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.22   infant tyrone bang

      Ooops, oh, so way silly me.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6ixaXBWtyc

      Jan 31, 2010 at 8:51 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.23   Sorry

      Homeschooled kids usually end up being socially awkward. Their ‘schooling’ often leaves much to be desired too. But keep patting yourself on the back for raising yet another weirdo. Yay.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 12:42 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.24   Canthz_B bang

      “Homewchooled kids are usually involved in more sports, play dates, and other group activities than other kids.”

      Um, NO! They’re involved in more ORGANIZED sports, play dates, and other group activities than other kids.

      Other kids don’t have “play dates”, they have recess, gym class, lunch period, school bus or walking to school and home in groups with their peers to socialize and play, during which time they find their social niches, their strengths and their weaknesses in non-structured social settings…like life.
      You don’t learn how to deal with a bully at home. You cannot learn how to be a leader at home.

      That having been clearly laid out as some of the shortcomings of home-schooling, I’ll say again that my daughters were home-schooled after grades 5 & 4.

      Odds are your over-protected little germ factory was infecting the other children, not the other way round.
      A good way of avoiding “childhood illnesses” is to stop thinking vaccinations and immunizations, or cow’s milk will give your kid Autism.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 9:48 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.25   mamason bang

      I homeschool and you can believe that my little one is learning how to deal with a bully. :-|

      Feb 1, 2010 at 2:56 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #9   secondsout bang

    Feed the little bastard dog food for long enough and he’ll come to appreciate those ham sandwiches, won’t he?

    Jan 28, 2010 at 7:26 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   infant tyrone bang

      Zappa’s “The Purina Permutations Be-Deviled Me”, with special guests
      Ian and Ruth Underwood hamming it up with El Conductor Grande.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 6:27 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #10   Woman on the Verge bang

    Do you think “ham” should be in quotation marks? Who knows what’s in that sandwich.

    Jan 28, 2010 at 7:27 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   Amy

      Maybe he is just trying to save his colon from future cancer by avoiding nitrates. Also, ham is disgusting, so I don’t blame him. Who wants to eat pressed meat shavings packed with chemicals?

      Jan 29, 2010 at 8:43 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.2   Mo® bang

      Yeah what kind of “ham” was that? Has anyone seen grandma? She has been missing for a few weeks…

      Jan 29, 2010 at 8:48 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.3   mamason bang

      mmmm… grandma ham!

      Jan 29, 2010 at 12:18 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.4   Gandalf

      Meat’s meat, and a man’s gotta eat.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 12:52 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #11   David

    The stabbing incident? Is this related to the noodle incident?

    Jan 28, 2010 at 7:30 pm   rating: 34  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   secondsout bang

      Calvin and Hobbes reference, FTW!!

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:58 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #12   Mike

    Ugh, how many times have I told you I do will not tolerate that godawful cooked ham!

    Prosciutto, Westphalian, Iberian, any cured ham will do!

    And while you’re at it, some decent mustard would be nice. Gulden’s would be an improvement over this insipid sour yellow water on my bread.

    Jan 28, 2010 at 7:34 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

    • #12.1   anglophile bang

      I think it’s more likely that Ivan (really, mom and dad, Ivan?) is watching his sodium intake. A nice poached chicken slice or two would be much more healthy.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:40 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.2   TheOldSchool

      I agree, Glo. Ivan? That’s terrible.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 7:53 pm   rating: 43  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.3   anglophile bang

      If you want, I can set ‘em up for you all night long, TOS. ;)

      Jan 28, 2010 at 8:41 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.4   Wade bang

      Gregory would be a more appropriate name.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 5:55 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #13   TheOldSchool

    What is with Eric?

    Today, he had fun playing “zoo keeper.”

    Tomorrow, he’ll delight in playing “gestapo!”

    Jan 28, 2010 at 7:35 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

    • #13.1   Neeners

      Exactly, evidently you get a “big blue star” for playing zookeeper.

      Teaching children that wild animals should be kept in cages so that nasty snot nosed kids can poke fingers in their cages and scream at them all day is a good activity. Tomorrow is three ring circus day!!! Exploitation and animal torture is fun for kids to exemplify! So much better than ‘stabbings’..

      Jan 28, 2010 at 10:55 pm   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.2   Woman on the Verge bang

      Good thing the teacher didn’t realize that Ivan the Zookeeper was euthanizing the animals.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 7:57 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #14   Critical Grass bang

    Dear Eric’s teacher,

    I really don’t know where Eric picked up this kind of behavior, just the other day while we were watching Saw II on TV I explained to him why it’s not okay to hurt people, he seemed to understand at the time, and after that when his father got home they played a little GTA and he went to bed. So you can see why I thought everything was okay. I tried everything… Maybe next time I’ll try the bitch slap technique my father still uses on me and my siblings, it’s very effective.

    Have a nice day. =)

    Jan 28, 2010 at 7:44 pm   rating: 39  small thumbs up

     
  • #15   Silence

    Huh. I always thought the whole point of being a parent was to make your kid eat things which they don’t like. And seriously, ham? Ham’s tasty! That kid’s a dingus.

    Jan 28, 2010 at 7:56 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   oi bang

      Was that the WHOLE point?
      I am out of words!

      Jan 28, 2010 at 8:02 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.2   Critical Grass bang

      I thought the whole point of having kids was to fulfill your unfulfiled dreams and expectations through them.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 8:10 pm   rating: 55  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.3   oi bang

      I thought that whole point was to change their dirty diapers.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 8:15 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.4   Critical Grass bang

      I thought the whole point was to buy expensive clothes and toys and still not be appreciated for anything you do.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 8:22 pm   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.5   mamason bang

      I thought the whole point was to raise well adjusted, healthy, productive members of society. I’ve been working way too hard.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 8:50 pm   rating: 43  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.6   Critical Grass bang

      Naaaah…

      That’s definitely not it, mama. You’re way off…

      Jan 28, 2010 at 8:55 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.7   Neeners

      I always thought the whole point of having kids was for the tax deduction or to take care of our old asses when we are decrepit.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 10:41 pm   rating: 32  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.8   Critical Grass bang

      I thought the point of having kids was to stop your mother from asking every month “so, when am I gonna get a granchild?”.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 11:14 pm   rating: 36  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.9   Geek Goddess

      I thought the whole point of having kids was so that there was somebody to do the chores.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 2:02 am   rating: 28  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.10   aaa bang

      I thought the whole point was to boost your ego by playing god and creating living humans.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 2:58 am   rating: 28  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.11   Canthz_B bang

      I always thought the whole point was to prove that you really aren’t a virgin anymore…really not!!

      Jan 29, 2010 at 6:04 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.12   AhSookieSookieNow!

      I thought the whole point was to divert attention from your crack addiction and create a foolproof way of extorting money from family members who, otherwise, wouldn’t give you another dime to blow on drugs. No?

      Jan 29, 2010 at 8:24 am   rating: 25  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.13   Kore

      I thought the whole point was having free labor at your disposal all the time.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 2:28 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.14   AuntyBron

      I thought the entire point of having kids was because the contraception didn’t work.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 12:16 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.15   Evie bang

      Critical Grass: “I thought the whole point of having kids was to fulfill your unfulfiled dreams and expectations through them.”

      Did you mean your maelstrom of unfulfiled dreams of normalcy and expectations? ;P

      p.s. if the WHOLE point of having children is to feed them food they don’t like, I cannot WAIT to be a mother!!

      Feb 3, 2010 at 9:42 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.16   TiaHillary

      Nah, the POINT is you get MORE TOYS! Luckily I have a boy & girl so I got Hot Wheels and Barbies.
      Now they’re older, I have someone to drive to the store for me (son) and bake me cakes (daughter- soon to graduate in: Baking & Pastry Arts at Oregon Culinary Institute AND she likes to clean-she ain’t ever moving out!)
      I teach as well – more young minds to MOLD to my every whim!! bwhahahaha

      Mar 1, 2010 at 7:55 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #16   farcical aquatic ceremony

    Re 1st note: What’s the deal with the sparkly star, happy-happy-joy-joy above the line, and the “your kid’s a sadist, you’ll soon look back at the stabbing incident fondly”-message below it? Mebbe lil’ Eric Krueger done did her brain in!

    Jan 28, 2010 at 8:01 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #17   Agent Cooper

    I don’t understand why Teacher no.2 underlined “has”. DOES NOT COMPUTE LADY!

    Jan 28, 2010 at 8:14 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #18   TheOldSchool

    teacher:”jelly & other things….”

    mom: “Other things?”

    teacher: “Oh, you know…. Smegma, Casu Marzu, Boiled Moose Noses.”

    Jan 28, 2010 at 9:20 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   aaa bang

      Maggot cheese FTW.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 3:01 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #19   Neeners

    Mom,

    These ‘teachers’ at the preschool, what kind of training do they have? Are they skilled in Early Childhood practices? or just hacks who need to earn a buck by watching kids? Sounds like the advice they give is pretty lame. Developmentally appropriate practice or “here’s a jelly sandwich go play zookeeper with Susie and quit making trouble?”

    As the mother of a former ‘biter’ just remember there is hope…..

    Jan 28, 2010 at 10:59 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #20   Palomon bang

    I don’t care what the instructions are:

    Team Eric’s Mom!

    Jesus H. Christ on rubber crutches, did anyone here play war as a kid? Cops n robbers? Cowboys and Native Americans? Star Wars?
    WTF is wrong with grown-ups these days?

    No, wait, I take it back-

    Team Eric!
    You’re an underdog, kid, but I’m rooting for you.

    Jan 28, 2010 at 11:22 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   NerfWarrior

      Man, my brothers and their friends used to buy sheets of aluminum, cut swords out of it, and then hold pitched battles against each other. I’m pretty sure there was the occasional mild stabbing every now and then, and somehow, NONE of them have turned out to be serial killers yet! Incredible!

      I mean, seriously. Give a girl a doll, and she’ll dress it up and baby it. Give a boy the same doll, and he’ll think of inventive ways to dismember it. That’s just the way kids are.

      Jan 28, 2010 at 11:42 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.2   Palomon bang

      Thank you!
      How ’bout a thumb, my safe to throw indoors friend?

      Jan 28, 2010 at 11:47 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.3   Canthz_B bang

      I did (well, not Star Wars), and said so above six minutes after you posted this way down here! :oops:

      Jan 28, 2010 at 11:59 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.4   Mo® bang

      Who didn’t blow up their army men with firecrackers and vaporize the damn krauts with barbecue lighter fluid flame throwers? Who didn’t torch at least on of their sisters barbies in a cannibal feast reenactment of the Gilligan’s Island headhunters episode?

      Jan 29, 2010 at 8:56 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.5   mamason bang

      We used to douse tennis balls with gasoline and light ‘em up to play catch. We did wear heavy leather gardening gloves to protect our hands so, we were keeping it safe.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 12:24 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.6   infant tyrone bang

      If Cirque du Flambe had ever caught on, you’d'a been rich.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 6:32 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.7   AuntyBron

      My brothers set a haystack on fire with flaming arrows while playing Cowboys and Indians. And all 5 of my brothers went to the ER at one time or another with bloody gashes on their skulls.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 12:20 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.8   mystic_eye_cda

      Oi.

      I killed every barbie I had by dismemberment, scalping, and stabbing. And as I have birthed two babies I think its safe to say I’m a girl.

      My son loves his baby doll and is always worried that its happy, is dressed, sitting properly, has a bed.

      Stop with the stereotypes.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 8:17 pm   rating: 27  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.9   Renagade676

      I used to piss off my sister by taking her water baby doll and adding red koolaid to it’s insides and dropping it from the 2nd story window in front of people and scream, “My BABY!”.

      ….Yeah, the neighbors complained, but my dad secretly thought it was hilarious.

      I also watched films like Rocky Horror Picture Show, Night Of The Living Dead, Hamburger Hill, and Nightmare on Elm Street, along with watching wrestling every week with my dad since I was in diapers. They were the best memories of my life, especially since I didn’t see my dad that much as a child with him on ship all the time.

      And I grew up to be a peace loving pascifist and a mommy of a very well behaved boy who’s growing up watching the same things I did.

      Honestly, it’s not what your kids watch. It’s how you introduce them to it. My dad sat down and talked to me about everything.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 9:53 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.10   moody

      Sorry I’m late to the party, just thought I’d throw in my $.02. Your kids can play war, cowboys, the stabbing game, or whatever the hell they want but they’re going to have to do it at home. I’ve got 23 kids to keep safe, so you’ll excuse me if I try to encourage the safe shit. Oh, I’m also supposed to teach them crap, too. I’m just saying, if one of my 5-6 year olds takes a sword to the eye it’s gonna be my ass on the line! So, sit down and grab a book, you darn kids!

      Jan 31, 2010 at 2:12 pm   rating: 27  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.11   anglophile bang

      Don’t be silly, moody. The little darlings can do whatever they want at school as long as mommy and daddy don’t mind. And if someone else’s mommy and daddy mind, oh well, they’re just being too sensitive, right?

      We wouldn’t want our precious darlings to learn to follow rules and respect our teachers.

      :roll:

      Jan 31, 2010 at 2:28 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.12   Canthz_B bang

      moody, have you taught them “The Paddle Game” yet?
      Oh, that’s right. God forbid someone’s little angel get his buns warmed.
      All you can do is give them a time-out to think of what evil shit they’re going to do next.

      You should at least be able to swing the yardstick above their heads to make an awe-inspiring WHOOOSH!!

      Jan 31, 2010 at 10:01 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.13   Tia_Hillary bang

      My son found that a naked Barbie makes a handy gun – it had built in “handles” (picture legs pointing out …)

      Mar 1, 2010 at 8:06 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #21   Ethnic Avenue

    Nothing like nested parentheses to add layers of aggression to your passiveness.

    Jan 28, 2010 at 11:26 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #22   Canthz_B bang

    I don’t know where Juli and Eric live.

    I do know that their local zoo is not accredited by the Association of Zoos and Aquariums.

    Jan 28, 2010 at 11:55 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #23   Canthz_B bang

    Teachers who wish their passive-aggressive child-rearing advice to be taken seriously should never use “4″ in place of “for”.

    Jan 29, 2010 at 12:26 am   rating: 23  small thumbs up

     
  • #24   CaroleM

    LOL. Love the second one.

    Jan 29, 2010 at 12:31 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #25   Adam

    Yea! Fuck ham!!!

    Also, stabbing? Serial killer in the making. Watch out mom.

    Jan 29, 2010 at 1:45 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #25.1   Critical Grass bang

      I think everyone should watch out. Unless his M.O. is to kill only pre-schoolers.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 2:19 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #25.2   Canthz_B bang

      CG, Eric’s whole generation needs to be on their guard.
      Eric will someday be known as “The Peer Group Killer”.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 6:09 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #25.3   Beth

      Or possibly the Zoo Keeper Stabber.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 5:10 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #26   Stephanie

    As a nanny and former preschool teacher, I’m going to go with Team Eric’s Mom and Team Ivan’s Teacher.

    Just sayin’.

    Jan 29, 2010 at 2:07 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #27   snatchbeast bang

    Hate to say it, but I’m on Team Teacher/Childcare Worker here. I’ve been that daycare provider/counselor before that has to provide different food for the kids because the parent’s just.don’t.get.it. I’m not going to let your kid starve if they flat out refuse to eat for days on end, sry.

    Now, I work with the bad kids whose parents never.got.it. They eat jail food. They’re used to eating crap.

    Jan 29, 2010 at 2:25 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #27.1   aaa bang

      Twenty bucks Ivan never told mom that he doesn’t like ham.

      (It’s funnier that way.)

      Jan 29, 2010 at 3:03 am   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.2   April

      I was a daycare teacher too and you are wrong. All pediatricians say that kids will learn to eat what you serve them or go without and eventually they picky eating will go byebye. I feed my toddlers one meal and if they don’t eat it, they go hungry. Never been a problem. They know that next meal they might like what I serve so they choose not to eat them. Their choice. No kid will starve themselves.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 6:10 am   rating: 35  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.3   Canthz_B bang

      snatchbeast, ever heard the term “enabler”?

      Children push boundaries. The job of adults is to teach boundaries and provide nutritious foods to our children, not make sure they are happy. By your logic a child can opt out of eating anything except what they want to eat. When I was little, I had no problem with chopped spinach, but could not stand leaf spinach. When my mom made leaf spinach I wouldn’t eat it, so I had to sit at the table until I’d done so. Cold leaf spinach is even worse than hot leaf spinach. I learned to eat that crap. My mom didn’t change her shopping habits to suit my tastes. She made sure I ate my spinach. Today, I can eat leaf spinach. I have learned that mom was right. They taste the same.

      Welcome to Chocolateicecreamworld children, just hold out a little longer, and you too can avoid eating what’s good for you.

      Not to say that every food your child doesn’t like should be force fed, we all have differing tastes, but the feeling that you need to make sure the child has something…anything…in their belly at “lunchtime” is misguided.

      April is right, though I don’t know why anyone would need a pediatrician’s opinion to validate common sense.
      Hungry is not the same as starving. If the kid wants to opt out of a meal, let him. He’ll eat the next one and be just fine.

      Teaching children that food is something, perhaps the only thing, they have control over leads to eating disorders.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 7:27 am   rating: 48  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.4   Woman on the Verge bang

      Kids rarely like what you serve them the first time. If I only stuck with the things they never refused, their diets would consist of pop tarts, peanut butter, McNuggets, and fries.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 8:02 am   rating: 25  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.5   The Elf

      That’s what my neices and nephews eat. They “refuse” to eat everything else. But that’s okay, because that’s all their father eats too, and he tells them in advance that the food is gross.

      This is why we don’t have dinner with them anymore…..

      Jan 29, 2010 at 8:32 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.6   Pterosaur

      As a former picky eater, I tossed many lunches and spent many evenings sulking over cold, congealing cauliflower. I learned to either eat what is served or go hungry, and sometimes I preferred the hunger. I turned out fine and healthy. No eating disorders, no diabetes.

      I imagine if everyone had fed me cookies and jelly sandwiches when I didn’t like my veggies, they’d be removing walls to get my 500-pound ass out of my house today.

      I suspect that Jelly Teacher could lose a few pounds herself.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 9:28 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.7   ClearlyDemented

      I feel I need to defend snatchbeast here. I was forced to eat food when I was little and it didn’t make me like foods I didn’t like, it made me dread new foods, because I knew if I didn’t like them, I’d be forced to eat them anyway. I’m all for making kids try new things, but what’s the sense in wasting the time and money to send a kid to school with a lunch they’re not going to eat? I mean, a meal at home everyone’s eating together, they don’t like it, too bad, but preparing something for the kid to take to school that he’s not going to eat just to prove you’re the alpha dog is just ridiculous.

      And yes, ham is healthier than jelly, but there are other healthy alternatives. I mean, has anyone ever tried to give the kid a piece of turkey or low-fat cheese?

      I’m no licensed therapist, CanthzB, but are you seriously saying that having a choice of food causes eating disorders? I understand it is an issue of control, but COME ON.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 12:27 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.8   oi bang

      I dunno. I am a picky eater too. (don’t kill me) but now i am grown up and cook for myself so I could be as picky as I want. I don’t have a eating disorder. I have kinda separated my tongue and stomach needs so I can eat even if I don’t like the taste but it would be bare minimum to stop my stomach from growling.
      I was never forced to eat what I did not want. not at least during my forming years. ( sometimes I do go mad at myself because I have to cook.)
      also I would be hesitant to let other people’s kid go hungry unless I have explicit permission.
      bingo!! I don’t see any point in this comment either!

      Jan 29, 2010 at 1:24 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.9   anglophile bang

      If the choice is eat the ham sandwich or go hungry, chances are Ivan the terrible is going to eat the ham sandwich. There doesn’t need to be a power struggle or any forcing to eat. Just eat it or don’t.

      But the choice is eat the ham sandwich or con the child care worker into making him a jelly sandwich. I think Ivan is a smart little kid. He’ll probably end up running a pyramid scheme or something some day.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 2:15 pm   rating: 28  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.10   NoAdditives

      My husband and I are very lucky to have a child who loves food. All food. If we’re eating it, she wants it. She’s never afraid to try new things, and it’s great. Although we’ve discovered two things she doesn’t like: plain mushrooms and strawberry flavored Hello Kitty crackers. So we don’t force them on her, but we do offer them periodically because we’re certain there will come a day when she likes them.

      But if there ever comes a time when she absolutely hates and refuses to eat a particular food, we’re not going to feed it to her, especially in a lunch she takes to school. Not because we want to cater to her whims but because kids go through many phases as they grow up where they don’t like certain foods. If a child refuses to eat ham, give that child another lunch meat. There is absolutely no reason to force it. Either the tastes will change and they’ll like ham at some point in the future, or they won’t. But forcing it is probably going to mean that child will always hate that food.

      Kids have very little power and they know it. They exercise what little power they have whenever they possibly can. If that means they refuse foods and don’t eat, that’s what they’ll do. No, they won’t let themselves starve, they’ll just find a way to get other foods either by trading with friends or by sneaking things from cupboards at home. Allowing children to have some input into what they get to eat eases tensions and allows children to feel like they have some control over what happens in their lives, making them more likely to try new foods and to eat what’s put in front of them.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 5:25 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.11   mamason bang

      Strawberry flavored Hello Kitty crackers? Really? I want to comment but everything I come up with seems so harsh and judgmental because I think it’s ludicrous that such a thing is even produced, certifiable to purchase said item and absolutely criminal to even contemplate feeding one to a small child… so I’ll just keep my peace and not say a word.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 6:26 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.12   mamason bang

      I was called a picky eater when I was little little. I was forced to eat whatever my parents put on my plate and I learned very early to control my gag reflex because if I barfed in my plate… well, let’s just say dear ol’dad would just get a spoon for me and wait for me to carry on.

      I’ve come to the very radical conclusion that children are actual human beings and that they may even have real feelings and opinions and even their own likes and dislikes. If my kids don’t like something, I don’t find it too much trouble to come up with healthy alternatives.

      As for my parent’s technique… well, on the bright side, I can swallow just about anything.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 6:48 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.13   Canthz_B bang

      CD, Many young families don’t have the luxury of placing lots of options on the table. They can’t afford to prepare multiple meal options to accommodate the whims of a child. It’s an eat what I serve or don’t eat, zero sum game.
      I never said serving a variety of foods causes eating disorders.
      I said that if you tell your child to eat his oatmeal, and you know he likes oatmeal, and he says he’s not going to eat it because he wants bacon and eggs, you’re better off saying eat your oatmeal again than making bacon and eggs.

      And, I clearly said that force feeding food you know your child doesn’t like is wrong.
      My mom made me eat leaf spinach because I’d eat chopped spinach. She never made me eat kale, because I never liked kale.
      Parenting really isn’t rocket science. Trying to be your child’s friend is. Being afraid your child won’t like you is.

      You did read my comment, right?

      Oh, and he’d probably start eating his ham sandwiches if he didn’t know he could trade up to a jelly sandwich by just pouting a little.
      Of course, Ivan eats ham sandwiches at home. Ham, being more expensive than say, bologna (which is like manna to children), does anyone really think this woman sends her son to pre-school with it if it’s something he doesn’t eat?
      Get real. He just likes peanut butter and jelly better, and lots of the other kids have pb&j, so he cons the teacher into making him a jelly sandwich.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 12:21 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.14   mystic_eye_cda

      If I weren’t really hungry I probably wouldn’t eat a ham sandwich. Its not that I don’t like ham sandwiches, I do, but its not something I go “nuts” for.

      However if I’m not hungry and you stuck a plate of black forest cake, lobster, raw oysters, or cherries in front of me I *WOULD* eat even if I weren’t hungry. Because those are foods I love enough to be stupid and eat more than I should.

      Just because he doesn’t eat all of his ham sandwich doesn’t mean he doesn’t like it. At 3 years 1/4 to 1/3 of a slice of bread is a serving. About 1 oz of meat is a serving. A half a sandwich and a half a piece of fruit or a 1/4 of veggies is plenty. Also some three year olds prefer to eat only two meals a day -usually its breakfast and lunch, but that’s not to say some kids don’t want lunch.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 8:24 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.15   girl troll doll

      As a nurse, I have to say that a child who is eating at home will not starve just because they refuse to eat lunch at school. Substituting what you want them to eat for what the parent has provided is undermining the authority of the parent.
      As a former teacher, I really don’t see the problem with imaginative play as long as no one is getting hurt. I always sat down with the kid and made sure he understood that pretending was ok but really doing whatever the action was at the time was bad. Now the kid that was honestly stabbing his classmates with the fork at lunch did get a phone call home.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 7:49 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #27.16   Rebelcat

      I’ve got a picky eater, and I’ve got a kid who will eat almost anything.

      *Of course* I’d never force the kid who eats anything to eat something he doesn’t like – he’s easy to feed! Heck, these days he even enjoys cooking meals for the family.

      But my picky eater? You bet I make her try new things and I also make her take a spoonful of the stuff she doesn’t like, and choke it down. Because if I had let her just eat what she wants, she’d still be eating nothing but white rice and french fries.

      And sure we’ve had our battles, her and me, but every now and then I’ll hear her say, “You know what? I kind of like green beans. A little. What I’m saying is, I’ll eat them.”

      Each kid is an individual. You can’t raise them all the same.

      Feb 1, 2010 at 9:31 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #28   MAMARILLA2 bang

    Let me tell you whippersnappers something..we used to have a game we played called cowboys and indians…we would point toy guns, arrows and knifes at each other and try to kill each other…Then we got to go in to the gym with the hard wood floors and the PE teacher would line us all up with hard rubber balls and tell us to hit each other with them…they called this “dodgeball”..some how we still live.

    Jan 29, 2010 at 2:43 am   rating: 21  small thumbs up

     
  • #29   aaa bang

    Stabbing is an inappropriate play behavior because it instills behaviors that will put the child at a disadvantage later in life. Stabbing a person leaves behind far too much evidence and is likely to splatter you with the victim’s blood, tying you to the crime scene. It’s better to teach children to not leave behind evidence early on than trying to change ingrained inappropriate behaviors further down the road.

    Jan 29, 2010 at 3:07 am   rating: 37  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   Woman on the Verge bang

      You know, I think Ivan was using the icicle shiv technique. The evidence melted and the spatter was mistaken for strawberry jelly.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 8:03 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #30   anglophile bang

    I’ve decided to refuse to eat my granola and yogurt for breakfast until I go out and buy myself a jelly doughnut. Yum.

    (sorry Adam, but jelly-filled ones are the best)

    Jan 29, 2010 at 7:41 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #31   splint chesthair

    Ugh, I get these all the time. Bobby was really tired and cranky today. Maybe he needs to go to bed earlier? I feel like yelling HE GOES TO BED AT THE SAME TIME EVERY NIGHT! WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO!?!?!

    Jan 29, 2010 at 7:43 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #31.1   Woman on the Verge bang

      You’d probably get a happy face note with the word “chloroform” on it.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 8:04 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #31.2   Mo® bang

      Nyquil shots!

      Jan 29, 2010 at 9:01 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #31.3   Bunnee

      Benadryl works like a charm, too!

      Jan 29, 2010 at 12:05 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #31.4   infant tyrone bang

      Jello Nyquil shots ?

      Nyquil popsicles ?

      Someone’s going to market Red Vines laced with Nyquil and retire rich.

      I’d say more but I have a patent attorney meeting
      to review my recipe for DXM Oreos.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 12:07 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #31.5   sheesh

      gotta love those self-righteous glorified babysitters.

      When my daughter was 3 (she is now 16) she would put her arms up and ask to be held. When she was upset and wanted a hug she would say “hold you?” in the sweetest little voice.

      It wasn’t perfect english, she was 3 for f’s sake. Around the same time I had to put her into day care, and she briefly attended a couple of different chain “preschools” before I got her into a really good one.

      The “teacher” at one of these pre”schools” freaked out and thought my daughter was saying “hurt you” when she was asking for a hug. And she actually thought my little 3-year-old girl was threatening her. Holy crap some people are stupid. Needless to say, we didn’t stick around after that.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 2:15 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #31.6   anglophile bang

      Um, maybe put him to bed earlier?

      Jan 29, 2010 at 2:19 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #31.7   Beth

      Or maybe make sure he is not eating jelly sandwiches on white bread every day.

      Jan 29, 2010 at 5:14 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #31.8   Sue Do Nim

      Isn’t three awfully old to be saying “hold you?”
      And pronouncing it “hurt you?”
      Just saying…

      Jan 29, 2010 at 6:18 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #31.9   mystic_eye_cda

      I’m pretty sure the “rule” is that if at age three a stranger can understand 50% of what your child says they don’t need speech therapy. If its less then they do.

      (That’s of course excluding pretend words they use on TV or books. It doesn’t matter how clear a child talks you are going to have to explain “oh that’s from X book” to grandma)

      Jan 30, 2010 at 8:29 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #32   Bunnee

    As the mother of a “spirited” 5 year old little boy, I can tell you that Eric will be just fine. My son got in trouble at school for “stabbing” someone, too. He picked up a woodchip from the ground and pretended to “stab” a friend. He also got in trouble for giving someone a wedgie, for yelling out, “Jesus Christ!” in the hallway (I don’t know where he got that ;) ) and for calling classmates various names. One day care “teacher” reported to me that he “actually used the word penis“. Gasp! (I wanted to ask her what should he call it–a cock?) Yet he remains one of the sweetest, most loving, well-adjusted little kids that I know.

    Lesson: Boys will be boys and they usually grow up to be just fine– no matter how much “advice” the daycare “teachers” try to give you.

    Of course, I have learned how to sleep with one eye open. :lol:

    Jan 29, 2010 at 12:27 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #32.1   Mark bang

      Without batting an eye a man will refer to his dick or his rod or his Johnson.

      Feb 2, 2010 at 2:08 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #33   Elisabeth

    I feel for the working Moms. It’s a hard job being a Mom, or so mine tells me, let alone working too. But, I also have pity for the teachers. Most people have their one or two children to manage–teachers have 30 or 40. My personal version of hell. Also, I REALLY want to know what the ‘stabbing’ incident was too!!

    Jan 29, 2010 at 1:41 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #34   Juli

    Thanks for all your comments – I feel much better, now I just need your addresses so I can send Eric over.

    Jan 29, 2010 at 1:44 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #34.1   mystic_eye_cda

      Eric is welcome at my house anytime, as long as he eats ham =))

      Jan 30, 2010 at 8:31 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #35   Juli

    Oops my first reply didn’t make it….The stabbing is at a shark – he is a big fan of Jaws and reenacts scenes very accurately with his brother (and at school) He also likes to play Quint getting eaten and Brody shooting ‘smile you son-of-a…’ I’m told this doesn’t go over so well with the 3 yr old girls. the preschool rule is that if a game doesn’t make everyone smile they can’t play it (ew)

    Jan 29, 2010 at 2:14 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #35.1   mamason bang

      Jaws for 3 year olds? Really?

      Jan 29, 2010 at 6:32 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.2   snatchbeast bang

      x 2 mamason

      Jan 29, 2010 at 9:14 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.3   Canthz_B bang

      Disney movies too much for him, eh?

      Jan 30, 2010 at 12:34 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #36   Kara

    Well all I can say is it’s a good thing the PETA people haven’t found out that the children are being encouraged to play zookeeper.

    Jan 29, 2010 at 2:17 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #36.1   snatchbeast bang

      or forced to eat ham sandwiches (and as a vegetarian, jelly > ham any day)

      Jan 29, 2010 at 9:15 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #37   Sara

    Pre-Schooler pretending to stab? What a lovely little goober he must be. Take the hint mom that he might not be ready for pre-school.

    Jan 29, 2010 at 4:44 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #38   Jill Terwilliger

    Some of you have been watching too much Law & Order.

    My kid pretended he was firing a bow and arrow once. I cut off all his fingers just to keep him from any chance at robbing the rich. Any good mother would have done the same.

    Jan 29, 2010 at 6:39 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

     
  • #39   ISpy

    As kindergarten teacher, there is so much I can say about this one. Consider that there’s a kid in my class right now, who has progressed from swordplay in September to pulling hair to threatening to blow up and kill a classmate. Today he peed on the wall outside the classroom as the kids were coming in from recess. He’s 5 and a work in progress. I just call the parents every time, which is almost every day. It’s part of the job. The preschool teacher knows this, but couldn’t resist being PA. Team Juli.

    Jan 29, 2010 at 7:45 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #39.1   Canthz_B bang

      Really? You get a kid in class with no home-training and go Team Mom?

      Infuckincredible!

      Jan 30, 2010 at 12:38 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.2   mystic_eye_cda

      Pretending to hurt someone isn’t really related to actually hurting people.

      Though most kids will either pretend to hurt people or actually hurt people at various times… right up through hazing at university.

      Jan 30, 2010 at 8:34 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.3   anglophile bang

      :|

      Jan 30, 2010 at 8:39 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.4   ISpy

      So, CB, mom has some work to do, no doubt, but the teacher missed the chance to actually communicate with Juli, and instead went PA on her ass.

      So I guess you are right…I’m Team Escape Goat.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 2:28 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #40   Anne Nonymous

    I wish someone would write my mom a note and tell her I hate meatloaf and that is not my favorite! She’s been thinking it is for ten years but I don’t have the heart to tell her otherwise

    Jan 29, 2010 at 8:19 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #41   Edwina the Defrocked Nun

    When my son at under 1 yr old bit a kid in his day care, the teacher instead of admitting they didn’t supervise closely enough, had the parents lie in wait for me when I came to pick up my kid, and they proceeded to grill me about my child’s “problem behavior.” (Just a guess, he was teething?) I pointed out I couldn’t control my kid’s behavior when I wasn’t even present.

    How’s that for PA behavior on the part of the staff? Let the parents duke it out in the parking lot! Fortunately, I’m an old hand at seeing PA shit for what it is.

    Jan 30, 2010 at 7:57 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #41.1   mystic_eye_cda

      *gasp* a one year old biting!

      (PS when I was in daycare they managed to get a real problem biter -one that bit people many times a day to stop biting… instead he started sucking and would leave hickeys. That was even more fun to explain. I have two kids and I can’t watch them every minute God knows daycares can’t)

      Jan 30, 2010 at 8:36 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #42   TippingCows

    If I were Ivan’s mom, I’d be drafting a lovely little note to his teacher. I am sure Ivan wouldn’t be getting ham sandwiches if he didn’t like them. We all know kids like things one day and don’t the next, depending on their mood. Seriously. Kids won’t starve themselves, and if they are that stupid maybe they aren’t long for this world.
    Just for shits and giggles, I’d send my son in with a slice of chocolate cake, a can of soda, and pop rocks to put in the soda. I wonder if anyone would have anything to say about THAT kind of lunch.

    Jan 30, 2010 at 9:31 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #43   Renagade676

    The rule of my house is, you have to try something twice before you can say you don’t like it.

    My son doesn’t always clear his plate, but when he gets down from the table, he always has at least half of everything eaten, and he has no problem trying new foods.

    The only food he doesn’t like is olives, and he’ll eat those if I put them on his fingers for him.

    Jan 30, 2010 at 9:59 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #44   Whoa!

    Whooooa!

    I feel like a crazy person. Am I the only one who is siding with the teacher on this one? Who lets their 3 year old watch Jaws?! WTF… What else do you let him watch? The Godfather and American Psycho?

    Jan 31, 2010 at 2:36 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #44.1   VM

      Not sure why you’re leaping from what is essentially a monster movie, however gory, to gangsters and psychopaths…maybe I’m the crazy person, but I’m more comfortable with the kid’s reenacting stopping a killer shark than indulging in any of the cowboy-indian/cop-robber/war scenarios that are the traditional bang-bang-you’re-dead games.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 11:50 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #45   Juli

    By the way, the 3 year old girl is in LOVE with Eric because he is also a cutie-pie romantic that loves to play dolls with her. But thanks Anglophile for all your advice, man we needed it.

    Jan 31, 2010 at 2:10 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #45.1   TippingCows

      *raises hand* My dad in all of his rookie parental splendor let me watch all sorts of movies when I was 3,4 years old. Jaws was one of them. My mother took me to see Poltergeist (scared the bejezus outta me). The list goes on and on. I assure you I am not scarred. Neither is anyone else I know that watched what we now consider “inappropriate” movies as a pre-schooler. This newfangled namby pamby parenting thing doesn’t seem to be doing much for us, does it?

      Jan 31, 2010 at 2:20 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #45.2   anglophile bang

      I didn’t give you any advice at all, Juli. You can let your kid watch whatever you want to let your kid watch. But don’t expect me to be all, “yeah, can you believe the nerve of that childcare worker, for telling me my son is behaving inappropriately”, because I’m not going to sympathize too much with you.

      Also, now I’m a little disturbed by the description of your pre-schooler being “romantic”, but I’m sure he’s a nice little kid.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 2:24 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #45.3   Canthz_B bang

      There’s nothing “newfangled” about age appropriate choices in what movies you let your children watch.
      If you watched Jaws at 3 or 4 years old, the movie ratings system was in place well before you were born.
      The namby-pamby has to do with not being willing to knock the living shit out of your kid for re-enacting scenes from the movie on kids whose parents knew better than to let their children see teen to adult oriented movies.
      The “inappropriate” has a lot to do with the fact that when I go to an R-Rated movie, I don’t want to hear your fucking kids whining and crying throughout.

      GET A BABYSITTER OR WAIT FOR THE DVD ALREADY!!!

      Jan 31, 2010 at 10:20 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #45.4   Canthz_B bang

      Sounds like Juli’s setting the groundwork for a “She was asking for it” defense to the upcoming fondling accusations.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 10:24 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #46   Wade bang

    (No need for siding with “team preschool teacher” or “team mom,” here — this kind of relationship is just emotionally fraught no matter how you slice it.)

    Nice try, kerry.

    But the notes sure are PA!

    Jan 31, 2010 at 2:54 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #46.1   anglophile bang

      I’m on Team If You Trust Your Child Care Worker With Your Kid, Don’t You Trust Them To Kind Of Know What They’re Talking About?

      Also Team Kid Won’t Starve If He Misses One Lunch.

      They’re maybe a little contradictory, yeah.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 3:47 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #46.2   Canthz_B bang

      I’m on team Mrs Sims and Mrs. Perkins.

      Life was simple, you ate the canned soup and the sandwich your mom sent with you.
      Took your afternoon nap (didn’t have to sleep, but you’d better be quiet as a rat pissing on cotton) for an hour.
      And you played whatever the hell you wanted to play until your mom came…as long as you didn’t interrupt their soap operas.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 10:31 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #47   Jenny

    Juli, I feel your pain. My kids are allowed to watch movies that other parents didn’t think were “appropriate” (like The Princess Bride), but not allowed to watch some stuff that was “for kids” (like Power Rangers).

    When my son was 4, he got in trouble for kicking a classmate. Turns out the classmate had instigated a game of Power Rangers (a show my son had never seen) and had done his fair share of hitting/kicking, too. However, the classmate’s parent showed up mid-game, saw my son kicking, and threw a fit about my bully of a child. The daycare teacher was, of course, embarrassed and not only blamed my child but allowed the parent to chew him out as well. We had a long discussion about appropriate supervision of preschoolers, as well as the fact that part of what I was paying for was protection of my child from hostile adults.

    The reason working parents pay big bucks for childcare is because their children are not old enough to make good choices about behavior when left alone. Childcare providers shouldn’t be surprised when they have to offer correction or deal with conflict.

    Jan 31, 2010 at 5:08 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #47.1   anglophile bang

      The reason working parents pay big bucks for childcare is because their children are not old enough to make good choices about behavior when left alone. Childcare providers shouldn’t be surprised when they have to offer correction or deal with conflict.

      In the same vein, parents should not be surprised when the childcare worker, who spends a large chunk of time with their child, communicates problems with the child’s behavior.

      Also, this is off-topic, but something that makes me angry: although parents may think they are paying big bucks for childcare, the average pay for a childcare worker is between $8 and $10 an hour. Not exactly premium salaries, there, for people in whom you are entrusting your child’s safety and well-being.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 5:28 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #47.2   Jenny

      One would assume, crazy though it sounds, that the childcare worker would deal with the problem. Someone who is supposed to have knowledge/experience with dealing with children surely recognizes that immediate intervention — right after the behavior occurs — is far more effective with small children than someone else handling the problem with lots of words hours later. Why on earth would you waste time talking to a 3-4 year old about something that happened the day before? They’re not really clear on yesterday vs. two weeks ago at that age.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 5:38 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #47.3   anglophile bang

      Yes, exactly, one would assume that the childcare worker will deal with the problem, and from what I took away from the small amount of information we were given, the worker did indeed stop the inappropriate play.

      I would also assume that the childcare worker would communicate with the parent about the incident, and, if the inappropriate behavior continued, to work with the parent to make sure the child learns what is allowable and what is not. And part of that would be a united front on just what behaviors are appropriate both at the center and at home.

      If the parents are aware of the rules of behavior, and are willing to entrust the childcare worker to “deal with the problem”, then they also should be willing to put in the same work at home. After all, it is in the best interest of the child to learn how to interact well with others, and frankly, if your kid’s a continuing problem at the school, they’re going to get booted. Then where will you be?

      Jan 31, 2010 at 6:03 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #48   Jenny

    “Also, this is off-topic, but something that makes me angry: although parents may think they are paying big bucks for childcare, the average pay for a childcare worker is between $8 and $10 an hour. Not exactly premium salaries, there, for people in whom you are entrusting your child’s safety and well-being.”

    Excuse me? I paid $1200 a month per kid for care for my children when they were preschoolers. The state required a ratio of one teacher to 4 kids. That’s $4800 per month, or $30 an hour, going to the daycare provider. Wages, as a customer, are not my problem.

    And anyway, what are you suggesting, exactly? That nobody put their child in daycare?

    Jan 31, 2010 at 5:43 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #48.1   anglophile bang

      Not at all. I’m just saying it makes me angry that the people who parents trust to care for their children–ostensibly the most precious and important thing in their lives– make, on average, about a dollar more an hour than the people they trust to get their McDonald’s drive-thru order right.

      You have to like kids a lot to be happy with that kind of job, and be good at it. And I think it must be terribly demoralizing to have parents fight them instead of work with them. And that’s on top of the demoralizing pay.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 6:06 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #48.2   Jenny

      Agreed. However, this is not the fault of the parents, but of a childcare industry that is not subsidized through tax funding. Parents who work at McDonalds need childcare, too. You can’t give it if you don’t have it.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 6:11 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #48.3   anglophile bang

      Not blaming the parents, at least not entirely. The industry is not well-organized, and unfortunately, the people who most need childcare are often the people who can afford it least. I am angry at the situation altogether.

      And I do think in some families, it makes better fiscal sense NOT to put your child in daycare, but that’s obviously different from family to family.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 6:22 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #48.4   Canthz_B bang

      Never put my girls in day care. My first wife was stay-at-home, well except for one semester after we broke up and the ex- needed to support herself just before they started public school.
      Of course, I was lucky enough to have lots of available over-time at work, to make that (just barely) possible.
      We didn’t have a lot of the “stuff” we could have had with two incomes, but we gave our children that essential base to build a life upon.
      You have to make sacrifices when you have children, you just can’t live like you don’t have them…they are your responsibility, be responsible.

      Glo, you are absolutely correct. It would NOT have made fiscal sense for my wife to work, only to have nearly everything she made in take-home pay go to a childcare center. Her time was better spent at home raising our children.

      Jan 31, 2010 at 10:44 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #48.5   April

      I worked at a fancy daycare for doctors and nurses and hospital staff. We had a lot of great parents, but we also had some real pieces of work there too. We didn’t get paid crap but we dealt with a lot of crap literally. The worst was when doctors would bring their kids in sick as a dog for us to care for so they could go to work.They knew their kids were sick and just didn’t care. So then the employees and all the other kids would get sick too and the cycle just repeated over and over.

      We had one nurse make a worker cry because she accidentally got some of the bleach water solution we by law have to use on the changing tables on the little girl’s pants and it made a spot. The bitch made the daycare worker pay her back for not just what she paid for the pants but for the full price of the pants since she bought the pants on sale. The worker paid her. I sure as heck wouldn’t have paid her a penny. Don’t send your kids to daycare in nice clothes idiot!

      I always feel that if you are super particular about how your kids are cared for then stay home and take care of them your damn self! Don’t give the workers a bunch of crap and put off your mommy guilt on us when we were trying to do a really good job and play with your kids all day and show them love when you were not there to do so. End rant.

      Feb 5, 2010 at 6:44 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #49   Hannah

    When I was in pre-school, one of our teachers happened to be the mother of two of the attending children. We were climbing up a slide during recess (or whatever it was back then) and her little boy was taking too long and I, being an unknowing little 5-6 year old, said, “Hurry up! What’re you, crazy?” Well, he thought I must have called him something horrible and told on me to his mother, who promptly called my mom and proceeded to raise an unnecessary stink about it. My mom apparently told her to calm the eff down.

    Feb 1, 2010 at 12:14 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #50   Canthz_B bang

    Dear Ivan’s teacher,

    You can lead a horse to water, but you don’t give him your tea if he doesn’t drink.

    Ivan’s Mom

    Feb 1, 2010 at 1:01 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #51   Meg

    I teach preschool and I’d have hell to pay if I sent any notes home like that! I have let parents know their kid doesn’t like whatever it is they keep sending for lunch, but if they don’t eat, I guess they will be hungry.

    Feb 1, 2010 at 6:33 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #52   bob

    FYL

    Feb 2, 2010 at 4:11 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #53   CourtneyH

    Just because Eric probably won’t grow up to be a serial killer doesn’t make his behavior okay.

    When I was in kindergarten a classmate stabbed me in the hand with a pencil. We both survived (me with a scar) , and he isn’t a criminal, but his behavior was definitely not acceptable

    True, his play could be completely acceptable (i.e. he isn’t bothering any of his playmates), but how likely is it that his teacher would write home about that kind of play? And by his mother’s own admission his play is too violent, and it’s been going on for a few weeks. So it seems to me that violence isn’t the only issue. Respecting authority is also an issue.

    So yeah, just because he’ll probably grow up to be well adjusted doesn’t make his *current* behavior any less bothersome.

    Feb 3, 2010 at 3:06 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #54   phellippe

    “…trying to play games that are too violent for his classmates…” More like you little piece of shite is beating the crap out of other people’s kids. What if eric was on the receiving end, Juli? How would you feel about it?
    Cut the crap and do something about it.

    Feb 7, 2010 at 7:47 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
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