Can you dig it?

February 21st, 2010 · 364 comments

“When I first moved to Chicago,” says Mike, “my grandfather told me about parking in the winter. One would dig out a spot and insert a chair, reserving the spot for your trouble.” One of his neighbors, it seems, didn’t get the benefit of such grandfatherly wisdom.

Dear Transplant, You obviously haven't lived in Chicago long.

Neither, apparently, did Chris…who made the mistake of parking in an empty space outside his friend’s house in Chicago for few hours. When he got home, he found this note affixed to his mirror with glue.

Thanks for being so rude by parking in the space that I shoveled out for my family.

And of course, Chicago isn’t the only city that takes its snow-shoveling etiquette seriously.

Just ask Anna in New Jersey…

This table is not trash, it is mine. I am using it to mark my parking spot that I so diligently shoveled out twice yesterday.

Or Brooke in Indianapolis…

I spent 3.5 hours over 2 days to shovel this parking space out so i could get to work and earn a paycheck. Since parking on the street is my only option at the moment, I would ask that you respect my hard work in shoveling myself out and NOT take my spot to park.  Have your business spend money to plow your spots in front of your business if you would like a clean spot to park.  Regards, A homeowner with a sore back from shoveling so much snow!!!

Or Amy in Washington, D.C…

Dear "Neighbor": I'm sure you thought the Recycling Bin and Trash Bags were just there for decoration. When a person spends hours digging out a parking spot through two separate snowstorms, she has a right to park there upon her return.

Or Larry in Silver Spring, Maryland…

NOT COOL!!  You didn't take 3 hours to shovel this spot OUT!!  This is MY parking spot!!

Or Kristin in Pittsburgh…

PLEASE DON'T PARK HERE (or I will totally lose my shit!!)

Olivia in Albany…

Don't think about parking here   Shovel your own space  Thank you   Have a nice day

Or Chris in Boston…where they’re always keepin’ it classy.

Hey fucking asshole the barrel was there for a reason. I didn't shovel out the spot that you could park your shitbox in it you fucking dickhead.

related: Boston, a place for friends

FILED UNDER: Chicago · etiquette · most popular notes of 2010 · neighbors · parking · snow


364 responses so far ↓

  • #1   molly ringwald

    if you read the note from indianapolis a couple of times, it sounds dirty…

    and at first glance, i thought the note from d.c. said “whew” instead of “when” in an effort to indicate how tired she was after shoveling snow… i almost wish it did.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 4:26 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   ashmeadow

      It’s nice to see that middle school practices stay with you as an adult. Take note everyone. The old “my book is in that chair so I own it” trick has been upgraded for the more mature set.

      But really, if their car was snowed in and they had to use it, they had to shovel it out. It doesn’t entitled them to anything but being able to leave the parking space, right. Am I being too logical?

      Feb 21, 2010 at 4:38 pm   rating: 147  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.2   shesajem

      Yes, you are being too logical – people tend to forget their compassion for others when being overly logical. If I had spend 3 hours shoveling snow for a park at work, which I regularly park in, then I would be pissed off too. It makes the person feel like they have been cheated – AND they then have to shovel another spot just to get a park again… this is why I live in Sydney – no fricken snow here!!!!

      Feb 21, 2010 at 5:43 pm   rating: 140  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.3   kmd

      @ashmeadow

      You obviously have a driveway.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 5:48 pm   rating: 107  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.4   Jugga Jugga

      lolz hell ya it sound dirty! yo nothin wrong with a juggla gettin down and dirty!

      “dont frown on a clown when he down”
      -Violent J, 2003

      Feb 21, 2010 at 7:18 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.5   Canthz_B bang

      shesagem, if you’re willing to shovel out a whole park then I believe you should be entitled to the whole area around the swings and sliding boards.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 10:15 pm   rating: 38  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.6   Peasant

      I’m with Ashmeadow on one.

      By the way, you should check your local laws. Unless you have a permit to have that chair in the street (you don’t) you are probably not permitted to have that chair in the street. Guess who is liable if car meets “chair that wasn’t supposed to be in the street.”

      And parking in one particular spot is never your only option. You can take public transportation. You can bike (even in winter time). You can rent a garage. You can park somewhere easier to park that you don’t have to shovel out. You can rent in an area that is easier to park in.

      Instead of taking the time to write a letter to someone who stole “your” spot, take the time to write a letter to the city. (See how much compensation they will give you for doing their job for them!)

      By the way, what is with the guy who spent 3.5 hours over 2 days to shovel a spot. That makes no sense to me. My dad’s driveway can park 4 cars with room to spare and I can shovel it in less than an hour even if it’s under a foot or more of snow. Standing outside smoking with a shovel in your hand does not count!

      @shesajem: It is not compassionate to allow people their delusions. In the long run that increases suffering. Better they learn how it really works isn’t how they want it to work. Only then will they be able to find peace.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 2:43 am   rating: 99  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.7   AJ

      It’s very clear who here has the luxury of a driveway and who has lived in an apartment in a state that gets lots of snow.

      The chair doesn’t necessarily have to be in the street, the same problem exists in an apartment lot.

      Shoveling out a spot in a parking lot is nothing like shoveling out a driveway. In a driveway, you just toss the snow into your yard on both sides… in a parking lot, you might have to drag the snow to a suitable spot to pile it. Not to mention you are shoveling the hard packed stuff that was pushed onto your car by a plow that came through the lot rather than an untouched driveway.

      Peasant, how exactly do you propose “parking somewhere easier to park that you don’t have to shovel out” when the snow falls from the sky? Shall we just cover our spot with a giant magical snow-free dome?

      Feb 22, 2010 at 5:08 am   rating: 170  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.8   park rose bang

      Unless I want to fall off my bicycle in winter, I cannot bike. It takes a more skilled person than I to navigate the built up snow and the residual ice.

      So saying, I gotta say, the 80 year old obaachans (grandmothers) are somehow adept at it, but even so, in snowy weather, you see far fewer, and you see them hopping off their bike just as often to navigate the areas which are not cleared.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 7:55 am   rating: 27  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.9   Peasant

      @AJ: I’m from Minnesota. Would you consider that a state that gets lots of snow? I’ve lived in apartments most of my life, too.

      You may have to (gasp) walk farther in order to park somewhere easier to park. Or you may have to pay for the privilege. Or you may have to (also gasp) think ahead and not rent from/buy a place that will require you to shovel out a public space if having that space “stolen” is something that bothers you. What, you think you should be able to reserve a public spot because you shovel your car OUT of it? That’s even more ridiculous.

      Directing your energies at the person who “stole” a spot that doesn’t belong to you in any real way is pointless.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 10:58 am   rating: 57  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.10   merkin4

      Some areas (Boston, for one), actually have laws on the books that say if you clear the snow from a street-side parking spot, it is yours for 48 hours, or until sufficient snow has melted so the spot isn’t distinguishable from other spots.

      Clearing snow from a parking spot (or getting a car out of a snowbank) can easily take hours. Start with a deep snowdrift, add snowplows removing snow from 2 to 5 lanes and throwing it to the side of the road. Add road salt, re-freezing, additional snowfall, and it can get deep. I have personally measured and removed 14 feet of snow at the side of the road.

      So, if somebody parked in a spot I’d cleared, I’d be pretty well inclined to let them have it. But, I’d get out the garden hose and try to return it to original condition. Might even shovel some extra snow on there, and pack it down good with a sledgehammer.

      I don’t have any tolerance for people who block me in, either. It’s just a sociopath telling me that her time and walking distance are far, far more important than anything I might be doing.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 12:44 pm   rating: 131  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.11   Hmm...

      Honestly…
      Street parking in the winter in Minnesota has got nothing on street parking in the winter in New York, Boston or Chicago.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 2:20 pm   rating: 45  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.12   Joe Blow

      Right, but the laws like the one in Boston are realtively rare. If they don’t have one, then you’re technically SOL. Maybe a PAN will make you feel better, but the spot won’t legally be yours. I live in DC now, and there has been some heated dicussion about whether trying to save “your” space in light of the snow here, is itself illegal. Street parking belongs to the public at large, absent a law like Boston’s.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 6:28 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.13   Kevin

      Boston has *No Laws* on the books regarding “saving” a parking space. I’ve lived there for 10+ years. As I recall, Mayor Menino is very much against it and even sent garbage trucks through the residential neighborhoods to throw away any garbage in the street the people foolishly believed were holding spots.

      Don’t make things up. There is no law about holding a parking space.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 12:49 pm   rating: 39  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.14   Seriously?!?

      Uh Kevin…While it may not be a “law” it is recognized…

      From Boston.com, 2/11/10
      “…Paybacks like the kind Medina got led Mayor Thomas M. Menino in 2005 to declare war on the claiming of parking spaces, and he ordered city workers to remove all the markers. Furious South Boston residents, led by the late Councilor James M. Kelly, revolted.

      Menino compromised, with a rule that allowed the practice as long as the markers were cleared from the street 48 hours after the end of a snow emergency.”

      Feb 23, 2010 at 1:58 pm   rating: 40  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.15   Juniper

      So, pray tell, what makes an emergency? I would imagine the rare snow days that are declared an emergency occur far less often than people putting chairs in to hold their spot. And still, not a law.

      I lived in Chicago and *gasp* took public transportation on days when I didn’t want to shovel. Yes, I was a street parker. No driveway, no parking garage nearby. I had to walk a few blocks to get the bus, usually with luggage since I work in the airline industry.

      I live in California now. Where lawn chairs and tables are used for sipping wine on a beautiful January evening on my patio. :)

      Point is, you can’t control others behavior. You can only control your own and how you react to it. Save the self righteous heart attack for something important.

      Mar 2, 2010 at 1:29 am   rating: 27  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.16   Rolton

      Seriously? I’m amazed at the douchebaggery in these comments. If I make the effort of shoveling for more than, say, thirty minutes, and plop down a marker, you’d damn well better believe I’ll expect to have that respected.

      And fuck a sharply worded letter. I’ll be making my response with my car key. I might make two or three walks around the car, just to make sure the message is clear.

      Mar 2, 2010 at 9:34 pm   rating: 56  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.17   HonestB

      Thirty minutes? Really? Do you have ridiculously big car or a ridiculously small shovel?

      Mar 5, 2010 at 2:24 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.18   Ryan

      I like how people say they want respect, but they clearly don’t respect others or the law.

      If you use public parking, it’s fucking public. These are the antisocial scum that vandalize cars on the street. They have no thoughts except for “look out for number one”.

      Rolton & merkin4, I’m looking at you. If you want to reserve a spot, pay $150 – 300 / month and do it properly.

      Mar 14, 2010 at 8:29 pm   rating: 53  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #2   r3loaded

    In the UK, if it’s gonna take us more than 5 minutes to shovel away enough snow to get the car out or to make a parking space, then we don’t bother with going to work in the first place – it’s clearly extreme and unusual weather so we stay at home :)

    Feb 21, 2010 at 4:33 pm   rating: 106  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   amanda

      extreme and unusual? it happens at least 3-4 times every single year

      Feb 21, 2010 at 4:43 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.2   Kate

      No it doesn’t.

      Ok, it’s happened a couple of times in the last 18 months (last February, just before Christmas and just after).
      This is the first time I remember not going to work because of snow.

      It makes the news everytime. It it happened that often they wouldn’t bother reporting on it.

      I guess it depends also where in the UK you are.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 5:18 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.3   AJ

      Wow, wish I could do that.
      You should give Wisconsin a try. It takes 12in before ANYTHING closes.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 5:10 am   rating: 29  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.4   Grant

      The prospect of a good 6″ is enough to keep me in bed!

      Feb 22, 2010 at 5:46 am   rating: 29  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.5   Meesh

      That’s what she said.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 8:20 am   rating: 120  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.6   JMonkey78 bang

      My wife did say that, but what does it mean?

      Feb 22, 2010 at 9:00 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #3   Canthz_B bang

    Yup. Being from NY means that you automatically know all social conventions nationwide and are therefore an asshole when you break one.
    It also automatically makes you a Yankees fan, which makes you an even bigger asshole than the asshole who assumes these things about you.

    Sweet!!

    Feb 21, 2010 at 4:35 pm   rating: 77  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   BlackMarketBeagle

      But we ARE better than everyone else…so….

      Feb 22, 2010 at 6:41 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.2   Canthz_B bang

      Shhh…they KNOW that, they just HATE to HEAR it!!. ;-)

      Feb 22, 2010 at 7:19 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.3   JMonkey78 bang

      Social conventions? They got out of a car, adn moved something that was obviously blocking the spot for a reason. Classic New Yorker Dousche baggery if you ask me. Oh and the Yankess, suck.

      Im just mad because, we don’t have a Baseball team in Oklahoma.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 9:03 am   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.4   Canthz_B bang

      I differ and agree.

      An orange cone would have been obvious, a chair is just something that appears to be out of place.

      Yes, the Yankees suck…that’s why I’m a Mets fan. They suck too, but they do it in a more exciting fashion.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 8:40 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.5   JMonkey78 bang

      I couldn’t agree more, or less. I mean really my team is the Texas Rangers and in the game of baseball they are like the Bad News Bears. They get your hopes up, then kick you right in the groin. As far as the chair, well lets just say that I would have personally had new furniture at my place, but hey thats just me.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 9:19 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #4   Dobie

    We do this here in Pittsburgh – and if you get caught moving someone’s chair, boy look out. You’re likely to get a lot more then just a note on your car.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 4:36 pm   rating: 33  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   JoshD

      Yup I live 12 miles outside Pittsburgh in the suburbs. This is (unofficial) law. You don’t mess with someones chair.

      This year after digging out my car and my fathers, the neighbor got in his car and pushed the snow pile between him and my father back onto my fathers car. So when he finished digging out his other truck we took the snow pile behind the truck and threw it into the bed of his truck.

      You don’t mess around when the spots in front of your house.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:36 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.2   JoshD

      Also the better the chair the more damage likely to be done to you if you move it.

      Ratio from bad to worse:
      Step Stool – Lawn Chair – Fancy Beach Chair

      Note on car – Snow Covered – Steaming Dump on hood

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:40 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.3   Mo® bang

      Thanks Josh but I don’t think of it as worse but just sending the message with the proper tone.

      @82.1“A nice formerly steaming pile of human excrement along with boot prints on the hood is a good message sender.”

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:20 pm

      Feb 23, 2010 at 9:07 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.4   JoshD

      Classy!

      Feb 23, 2010 at 9:18 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.5   Mo® bang

      Stay classy Fargo!

      Feb 23, 2010 at 9:24 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.6   JoshD

      Late addition but this just made the news.

      “Man shoots at police after parking spot fight”

      http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/22651814/detail.html

      Tell me my chair doesn’t mean shit now.

      Feb 24, 2010 at 12:51 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.7   Ryan

      Josh, I think it means you are just an asshole that doesn’t respect his neighbors.

      Don’t you think everyone has to clear out their spots? or, if the spot isn’t cleared, it’s still parkable?

      If people would just stop doing this nonsense, everyone would be a lot happier around each other.

      Mar 14, 2010 at 8:33 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #5   Andi

    Wow…massive snowstorms bring out the best in everyone :) If I’d spent 3 hours shoveling only to have someone park in my spot I’d probably put the shovel through one of their car windows.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 4:40 pm   rating: 72  small thumbs up

     
  • #6   Andi

    I would find some burley friends and move their d@%^ car – into the street but I am just a pissed off New Englander like that!

    Feb 21, 2010 at 4:45 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   Kevin

      Just for the record, I’ve moved every piece of garbage (recycling bins, trashbags, lawn chairs, summer chairs, etc) from South Boston where I lived, a neighborhood known for threatening people. I did this in the middle of the day while other people watched. No one stopped me or dared try anything physical. For all those people on here that threaten violence when their shit is removed, you won’t do anything and you know it.

      I particularly like seeing the garbage leavers get more and more desparate as their shit disappears. First it’s a lawn chair then I throw that away, then a recycling bin, then a milk crate, then a garbage bag then an empty box.

      For the record, I don’t even drive. I just don’t like seeing my neighborhood look like a garbage dump.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 1:04 pm   rating: 48  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.2   Zu

      So you don’t even drive, never do the extremely hard work of shoveling out a parking space and just throw people’s stuff away because you don’t like it? What a sanctimonious holier-than-thou a$$hole you are. I hope karma gets you for your unparalleled douchebaggery.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 1:36 pm   rating: 97  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.3   Ryan

      Kevin, way to go. That’s the attitude to have. Doing work that benefits everyone.

      Zu, again, if you want a parking spot, buy one. Public parking is public no matter what your misconceptions are. If you’re an asshole in this aspect, chances are that you’re just an all-round asshole :)

      Mar 14, 2010 at 8:35 pm   rating: 23  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #7   tiff

    I’m glad I live in San Francisco…where there is snow only far out in the distance on some inconveniently located mountains.

    When it’s time to clear out the rubble from The Big One in order to park, I’ll make sure to leave some passive aggressive notes on people who go near my earthquake’d parking zones.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 4:48 pm   rating: 28  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   Ethnic Avenue

      San Francisco is packed with passive-aggressive notes about parking. It’s annoying.

      Every driveway has a sign about how “you better not park here.”

      Feb 21, 2010 at 4:58 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #8   rhombchick

    Being from australia, I didn’t realise snow shoveling was such a big issue! LOL! I don’t think I ever want to go to the US in winter, or at least not have a car that needs parking….

    Feb 21, 2010 at 4:49 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #8.1   seawolf

      You definitely don’t want to go to any city where it’s snowing. I hate it.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 4:51 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.2   KayOkay

      Rural snow rocks. Urban snow sucks.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:23 pm   rating: 52  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #9   seawolf

    I’m from California and lived in Chicago. It’s first come first served. It’s just ridiculous to think you own a spot on a city street because you had to remove the snow for you to drive away.

    But maybe I’m the kind of asshole who would park in your spot.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 4:50 pm   rating: 66  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   Ryan

      You’re the type of “asshole” that follows the law.

      But, most of the lower cultured people can’t understand the law anyhow. So, it’s sort of hard to blame them.

      Mar 14, 2010 at 8:37 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #10   Gunderson

    Dear Chicago resident. I’m from NY, and I’m nice enough not to take your parking spot. But I did take you up on your offer of leaving me with a free chair. Between you and your 5 neighbors, I got enough chairs for my patio set.

    PS, I hope the Cubs do as well this year as they did during the last 100 years.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 4:50 pm   rating: 137  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   Dana

      Haha!

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:36 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #11   Ethnic Avenue

    Shit like this is why I live in Los Angeles.

    God Bless the Left Coast.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 4:51 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

     
  • #12   Jenny

    Living in Philly, where we got 44″ of snow this week, I have to say that these note-writers are totally justified. It’s one thing to consider it in the abstract, but I’ve never seen this much snow before in my life. I haven’t driven my car in 2 weeks because the work to dig it out was too overwhelming. It still looks like a snow drift with side view mirrors. If I moved someone’s lawn chair to steal their parking spot, I would consider myself lucky if my windshield didn’t get busted in.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 4:55 pm   rating: 60  small thumbs up

    • #12.1   Jenn

      Living in Iowa, where we get massive amounts of snow like that every year, I have to say you still can’t own a public parking spot.

      Yeah, shoveling sucks, but you don’t get to save public spots. Philly people seem to think they’re ever so special because they’ve got a lot of snow. Sorry, but you’ll just have to keep shoveling and keeping a shovel in your trunk LIKE THE REST OF THE NATION.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 5:02 pm   rating: 55  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.2   jason

      44 inches of snow is nothing. It takes less than five minutes for a competent adult human to clear that much snow out of a car-sized area. If you are dumb enough to shovel a parking space out on a city street, you are doing it as an act of charity. Fuck your lawn chair.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 5:15 pm   rating: 61  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.3   matty-wat

      I’m not in favor of saving spots, but I gotta call bullshit on you Jason. It takes a lot longer than five minutes to dig out a spot that has been plowed in with frozen salted slush. As for fucking the lawn chair, it’s not as much fun as it sounds.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 5:52 pm   rating: 118  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.4   anglophile bang

      Yeah, I gotta think jason has never shoveled more than a couple of inches at most.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:03 pm   rating: 54  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.5   ohreally

      If people need to just be prepared and drive around with s snow shovel in their trunk, then they should pull that shovel out and clear their own damn parking spot instead of being a lazy ass who decides that shoveling out a spot is for other people to do for them.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 7:54 pm   rating: 37  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.6   Canthz_B bang

      I think Jason may be thinking 44 inches in length, not depth-by-width-by-height.

      Think in cubic feet, Jason. Lots of work. Five minutes is the time you take looking at it and figuring out where to start.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 9:33 pm   rating: 60  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.7   Boomshine

      @#12.1: Is it really so foreign to those of you in Iowa to think people might possible have courtesy and respect for one another, built up by a tradition that’s gone on for decades?

      There’s a reason cities are DIFFERENT, and everyone doesn’t all live in one place. Different areas = different cultures = different rules of living, which attract different manners of people.

      Plus when the snow is falling consistently for days or weeks on end, why the hell would you want to shovel the same amount of snow 5 days a week for however long God should decide to spit on us?

      You’ve got a 44″ cube built up on your car. You want to shovel that all away, just to come back home, find your spot taken, only to have to drive your car into another snowbank and shovel it away again tomorrow after it’s been snowing all night?

      And I live in Portland, OR, where it barely snows, but we still have snow courtesy. Just because people live in the big city doesn’t mean they have to act like complete assholes.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 3:44 am   rating: 36  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.8   Bossy

      I live in Philly. I’m from CA, I’m here as a student…so yeah, I haven’t seen this much snow either. But I shoveled my car out and I shoveled a new spot once I got back from my errands. If I were to come back and find the spot open I’d consider it lucky. If I didn’t find it, I’d consider it just what I expected…whether there’s snow or not, cars need to park and while I was out another car came home, they clearly needed the spot and that’s fine. Shoveling isn’t fun but it’s what you have to do when there’s snow. Saving a spot is absolutely ridiculous. Besides, the sooner all the spots get shoveled, the easier parking will get every day without the “need” for chairs.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 8:55 am   rating: 32  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.9   Juniper

      “Different areas = different cultures = different rules of living, which attract different manners of people. ”

      So you accept that, but yet support the Chicago local in writing a rude note to someone from a different culture with different rules of living, as if said foreigner should have known the rules? Honey, that ain’t manners…

      Mar 2, 2010 at 1:36 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #13   Liz

    Wow, this is a totally new concept to me. I live in Minneapolis, where we get PLENTY of snow every year, and there is no such thing as “claiming” a spot here. If you want the spot that bad, you take public transportation or a cab and leave your car there. A freaking chair to hold your spot?! I would laugh my ass off if I saw that on the street here. And then run it over and park there.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 5:10 pm   rating: 115  small thumbs up

    • #13.1   TotalBlammBlamm

      Agree. I live in Wisconsin, we get a metric shit ton of snow, and I would laugh myself sick if I saw someone trying to save a space because they shoveled it out. Ridiculous!

      Feb 21, 2010 at 5:27 pm   rating: 47  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.2   sleeps

      Right, because of all the booming urban development in Wisconsin that makes the on-street parking situations anywhere near the same as they are in Chicago, Philly or NYC.

      That being said, I do think it’s nonsensical to have a car if you live in, say, downtown Chicago. If the traffic/parking is that bad, you’re gonna be better off taking the El or a bus. And if you live in the ‘burbs, then you probably have off-street parking.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 5:45 pm   rating: 49  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.3   beanster

      10 points for the measurement of metric shit tonne.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 5:50 pm   rating: 25  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.4   anglophile bang

      Um, we do have cities and shit in Wisconsin, sleeps. We don’t all live on a dairy farm.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:05 pm   rating: 43  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.5   sleeps

      Y’all should put that on the license plate: “Wisconsin: we got cities an’ shit”. :) I know you have cities (ok, I know you at least have one, Milwaukee, which is Algonquin for ‘the good land’); just nowhere near the size of Chicago, NYC or Philly.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:28 pm   rating: 42  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.6   anglophile bang

      Trying to find the native American root word of place names is fraught with danger. The Algonquin tribe lived nowhere near Milwaukee, so it’s extremely doubtful that was the origin of the name, no matter what Wikipedia says.

      But I’m totally on-board with the new Wisconsin motto.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:36 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.7   infant tyrone bang

      What !?
      And give up the best license plate slogan of all time ?
      Wisconsin: Come smell our dairy air.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:38 pm   rating: 43  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.8   sleeps

      Oh, well, I didn’t get my info from Wikipedia. I got it from Mr. Alice Cooper’s fantastic cameo in Wayne’s World. So clearly, it must be correct.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:56 pm   rating: 32  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.9   Canthz_B bang

      I’ve spent over an hour researching this, and you all know how obsessive I can be.

      Ty is correct. “Come Smell Our Dairy Air” just barely beat out “We Really Cut The Cheese” for best license plate slogan for Wisconsin.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 9:52 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.10   wax lion

      Yeah, when I lived in Chicago I thought the chair thing was asinine. They have a highly functional public transit system–either leave your car where it is for a week, or dig it out and let the space go. Or, radical thought, dig out your spot and someone else’s too. If everybody dug out a neighbor’s car as well, the streets would be clear and finding parking would be back to its usual wretched state in the Windy City…

      Feb 22, 2010 at 12:14 am   rating: 22  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.11   SAP-er for life

      I absolutely agree. If I ever saw something like that in downtown St. Paul, in my car or not, I would rip that chair to shreds.

      The chances are also pretty good that I would be laughing like a maniac while doing it. These long winters make me a little crazy sometimes…

      Feb 22, 2010 at 1:01 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.12   AJ

      In most of Wisconsin’s cities, parking on the street when ANY snow is falling is illegal.
      The real problem, I find, is in apartment complexes.

      I don’t like any of the assholes I live near, and I have no interest in shoveling out a spot so they can park in it. If they decide to park in my spot because theirs is full of snow, it’s probably best I not have anything sharp with me when I come home.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 5:20 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.13   GingerE

      In DC, that much snow shut down the metro system. There was no bus or above ground train to use as an alternative and every single local store was out of shovels. After I cleared my spot with a tennis racket, I would have not been amused to find anybody else in it.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 7:27 am   rating: 39  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.14   Canthz_B bang

      Ginger, that’s a pretty good time to stay home, no?

      I mean, where the heck really is there to go when everything is snowed in?

      Just saying.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 8:07 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.15   GingerE

      Terrible time for your prescription to run out.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 8:21 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.16   Canthz_B bang

      There’s a good time?

      BANG—-ZOOM!!!!

      Okay, bye, gotta go make some money now. See ya tonight.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 8:29 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.17   Meesh

      My city is better than your city!!!!!

      Feb 22, 2010 at 8:34 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.18   JMonkey78 bang

      Aglophile wrote, “Um, we do have cities and shit in Wisconsin, sleeps. We don’t all live on a dairy farm.”

      Damn, so they got us poor bastards in Oklahoma beat. Guess we will have to stick with our own slogan, “Where the %$#@ am I.”

      Feb 22, 2010 at 9:11 am   rating: 38  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.19   Garandman

      First of all, Minneapolis doesn’t get a great deal of snow: about the same as Boston, or 4′ on average.

      The difference is that in some cities (like Boston) routes are designated Snow Emergency routes and no parking is allowed during a storm and for a time afterwards. So if you leave the spot you shoveled out for hours, there is no chance of parking anywhere in the neighborhood when you return.

      Public transport isn’t an option if you don’t work in the city.

      In Boston, the rule is that you can mark a space for 48 hours after the storm ends. In practice, it tends to be 3-4 days, unless the emergency is lifted.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 9:23 am   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.20   Lulu

      I have seen this chair phenomenon in places that tend to get a lot of snow but not often. I have found that cities that always have a lot of snow don’t allow parking on the street in the winter as it interferes with plowing.
      When I lived in Ottawa (Ontario) if you left something (car or chair) on the street after a snowstorm it would get towed or removed before they plowed the street (either case would yield a fine). But when I lived in Toronto, since they tended to not plow side-streets very often I would see a lot of parking spot blockades. Ironically Toronto has a requirement that you shovel the sidewalk in front of your house and if you don’t you get a fine.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 10:13 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.21   anon

      Come to Buffalo NY. I left my car parked and walked after a snowstorm and got a parking ticket for my efforts. Apparently you can’t park in the same spot for more than 24 hours, even if there are no signs. What a shit hole.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 10:57 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.22   Mo®

      The Milwaukee area was originally inhabited by the Menominee, Fox, Mascouten, Sauk, Potawatomi, Ojibwe (all Algic/Algonquian peoples) and Ho-Chunk (Winnebago) (a Siouan people) Native American tribes. French missionaries and traders first passed through the area in the late 17th and 18th centuries. The word “Milwaukee” comes from an Algonquian word Millioke which means “Good/Beautiful/Pleasant Land”, Potawatomi language minwaking, or Ojibwe language ominowakiing, “Gathering place [by the water]“. Early explorers called the Milwaukee River and surrounding lands various names: Melleorki, Milwacky, Mahn-a-waukie, Milwarck, and Milwaucki. For many years, printed records gave the name as “Milwaukie”.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 1:16 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.23   oi bang

      @ liz:
      I would laugh my ass off if I saw that on the street here. And then run it over and park there
      I am pretty sure when chair leaver would be keying your car he would be laughing like a manic too.
      not that I condone claiming public spaces but sometimes consequences can be dire specially in crime capital Chicago
      I don’t think it’s any better now.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 4:23 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.24   Jen

      I live in the Minneapolis area too, Liz and I wholeheartedly agree with you. The whole ‘claiming a spot with a chair’ thing seems juvenile and ineffective. If people did that here, where we DO get a bunch of snow, no matter what some other commenter said, I would gladly deposit said chair on top of the nearest pile of snow and park my car there.

      Luckily, I have a garage to park my cars in and work somewhere with adequate parking.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 9:24 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #14   Tim Kolb

    I usually have to drive around at least 15 min to find a spot within 2 blocks of my apartment. I’m taking it shovelled or not.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 5:13 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

     
  • #15   muley

    I’m glad I live in Scottsdale. No snow, ever.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 5:18 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #16   Monique

    Yeah, sorry folks. Here in Canada, where we get that much snow for EIGHT MONTHS OF THE YEAR, you learn to keep a shovel in your car. In fact, we even help our neighbours shovel! Come on, the climate is changing, there is more and more snow where there wasn’t any before, you just have to adjust.

    PS: Except in Toronto… where they are the centre of the universe and call out the military to help them dig out of a snow storm. You’re not as bad as Toronto, are you? ;)

    Feb 21, 2010 at 5:23 pm   rating: 44  small thumbs up

    • #16.1   :D

      Canadians are so nice.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:25 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.2   Mike

      Apparently, except for Vancouver, which got way too much snow last year. This year, not so much.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 12:52 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.3   JMonkey78 bang

      All that snow id caused by Global Warmification. LOL.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 9:12 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.4   Languagegeek

      I am a delicate Southern flower. I have never lived in a snowy climate. Ever. And there’s a reason for that. Where I grew up, a mere two inches of snow was enough to shut down school and work for three days. (OK, mainly because it melts then freezes, thus becoming icy and a complete hazard. No one can drive on ice. I don’t care where you’re from.)

      I don’t handle snow well. It’s more of a “You can find me by the fire, under a down blanket, and sipping hot chocolate. Tell me when it melts.” thing with me. And they are predicting snow tomorrow here. In Austin, TX! And it was 75 degrees yesterday! (New mantra: “I love the crazy weather caused by the precession of the earth. Al Gore is a nimrod.”)

      And if I could get cute, well-built men in uniform to shovel all the snow away, I totally would.

      Team Toronto wussies FTW!

      Feb 22, 2010 at 1:06 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.5   heh

      Team cute, cute, well-built men in uniform to shovel all the snow away. That would get me away from the fire (or next to the window, at least).

      Feb 23, 2010 at 4:25 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.6   really?

      Canada has a military? Who knew!

      Feb 24, 2010 at 12:58 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #17   Jeff

    I am also from New York and, yes, I do think I am better than everyone. Because, you see, being from a *real* city, I don’t have a car and therefore don’t have to put up with this shit. The day after a storm, the sidewalk has been cleared and I can easily walk to two blocks to the subway!

    Feb 21, 2010 at 5:24 pm   rating: 29  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   Alison Perrie

      Amen! I’m selling my car and moving to NYC. After 30″ of snow in DC, I can’t wait to get rid of this thing and brave the sidewalks. Screw the territorial parking lot drama!

      Feb 21, 2010 at 8:38 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #17.2   BlackMarketBeagle

      Watch out for the ice rinks at every corner though. Bring your skates.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 6:47 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #18   Wade bang

    And New York style pizza sucks too.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 5:25 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   anglophile bang

      Hell, yeah it does, compared to Chicago stuffed pizza. Pizza should NOT be foldable!

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:08 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.2   Canthz_B bang

      Hey, NY…take your Metro Cards and shove ‘em up your IRT!!

      Feb 21, 2010 at 9:56 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.3   BlackMarketBeagle

      Pizza SHOULD be foldable. You shouldn’t need a friggin fork and knife to eat it. It’s meant to be eaten on the run to your next mugging

      Feb 22, 2010 at 6:49 am   rating: 53  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.4   Canthz_B bang

      You don’t get mugged if you pepperoni away fast enough.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 7:36 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.5   Clumber

      … I think just maybe that BMB was the muggER not the muggEE in the statement.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 10:45 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.6   BlackMarketBeagle

      It really depends….on how much I have in my pocket!

      Feb 22, 2010 at 11:45 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.7   Wade bang

      Youse also don’t get mugged if you’re holding a knife in your hand.

      Pizza ain’t supposed to be origami!

      Feb 22, 2010 at 8:07 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.8   Jenn

      Them’s fighting words. Chicago pizza is okay, but I LIKE my greasy floppy pizza!

      Feb 22, 2010 at 8:43 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.9   Canthz_B bang

      Let them eat cake…or thick crust pizza.
      Good pizza should leave small lacerations in your mouth. It should crack slightly on the bottom when folded, otherwise you’re just eating a sauced and cheesed round of bread.

      Best pizza ever? NYC, Lower East Side, Manhattan. It was just off Orchard Street. What a devine crunch!! :-)

      Feb 22, 2010 at 11:21 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.10   Francis

      There’s a reason Chicagoans are fatter than New Yorkers.. Well , two.

      1) Their pizza
      2) driving everywhere instead of being willing to walk

      Seriously, that Chicago transit system is awesome! No excuse for driving in crap weather!

      Mar 2, 2010 at 1:42 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #19   Marissa

    I’m with the note-writers generally; it takes hours to clear out a spot after 3-4 feet of snow, given that you’re not doing a half-assed job.

    That being said, it’s illegal in D.C. to “save your spot,” so sorry, my District neighbors. If a cop catches you with a folding chair in that spot you cherish, you’re getting a ticket. So you might not want to write that note.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 5:41 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

    • #19.1   Sara Elisabeth

      I’m also in DC so I just kinda laughed when I saw that. I know it’s frustrating not to have anywhere to put your car when you get back, but the law typically supersedes what sucks. Just saying.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:01 pm   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.2   Hmm

      What do they do, pin the ticket to the chair?

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:26 pm   rating: 37  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.3   BrookeDiz

      Sara Elisabeth,

      Bless your heart.

      “but the law typically supersedes what sucks. Just saying.”

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:27 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.4   park rose bang

      You mean, BrookeDiz, just ask Divine Brown for proof of that?

      Feb 21, 2010 at 7:29 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.5   HonestB

      Why would you do more than a half assed job? It’s a parking spot. It’s not the sidewalk. You need to be able to get a car in and out of it. That’s really the only standard you’re working for.

      Mar 5, 2010 at 2:38 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #20   Marie

    I think it’s bullshit that people think they are entitled to a public spot..You don’t own the street!!! I live in Philly and if you’re afraid of someone taking your spot, just take the goddamn bus or the train. There were still LOTS of buses running throughout the storm, and the city trains never stopped running. The worst is in South Philly where on a perfectly fine day, people will put out chairs to claim their ‘spot’ because they feel entitled to reserve the street that they do NOT even own!! Go suck a duck you losers..take public transit if it’s such an issue!!!

    Feb 21, 2010 at 5:43 pm   rating: 31  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   sleeps

      “Go suck a duck”. Priceless. I have not heard this gem since, I’m going to say, the early ’90s. How exactly does one suck a duck, Marie? (sorry, that was just a Donnie Darko reference; you don’t actually need to explain it to me)

      Feb 21, 2010 at 5:51 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.2   park rose bang

      Damn. I wanted to get into rubber boots. Or I’d rather you did, sleeps. Perhaps. And by rubber boots, I mean wellies. Or just one, really, depending on your stamina.*

      *Hopes that sleeps is a guy for the purposes of this comment.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:53 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.3   sleeps

      Unfortunately, I am not, but am more than willing to portray one for the purposes of your comment, park rose.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 7:01 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.4   Canthz_B bang

      Howard could tell you a great deal about how to satisfy the average duck. :-P

      Feb 22, 2010 at 11:31 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #21   David

    The Boston people here are at least justified, there is a law of some sorts (or mayoral doctrine) that allows you to put crap in your spot for 48 hours after a snow emergency is declared to claim it after you dig it out. And like someone else said, the people who only got notes are pretty lucky, slashing tires or broken windows is the usual retaliation. (I say this as someone who doesnt own a car)

    Feb 21, 2010 at 5:44 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

    • #21.1   Elana

      My first thought on the Boston one was he was lucky to get only a note and not his windows broken and tires slashed.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:50 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #21.2   Southie Johnny

      As a former plow driver, mid state New York, it was a sort of game we had to see how many chairs we could fling into yards. Property Damage was our stock in trade back then. Oh early eighties how I miss you!

      Feb 22, 2010 at 1:24 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
    • #21.3   anglophile bang

      UTICA!!!!

      Feb 22, 2010 at 1:38 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #21.4   Southie Johnny

      I thought I recognized your knitted hat! :razz:

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:15 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #22   gracefultortoise

    Hmmm… as a native Chicagoan, I recall times when we’d spend many hours digging cars out and try to hold spots but knew that sometimes it was an exercise in futility. The only surefire way to hold your spot is to leave your vehicle there and hop on the bus or the el. Also, it’s been illegal to try to “hold” a space using furniture for quite some time and you can get fined for attempting to do so. If you try to hold a space with a folding chair, the person removing it may very well be saving you from a hefty fine. It’s the midwest. It’s winter. It snows. Sometimes a lot. The world doesn’t stop so we gotta suck it up and deal with it.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 5:45 pm   rating: 31  small thumbs up

     
  • #23   matty-wat

    If I throw the word aforementioned into my note will it sound more official?

    Feb 21, 2010 at 6:00 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #23.1   infant tyrone bang

      Yes.
      And if, unlike the note writer in Pittsburgh, you use “aforementioned” to refer to something that, you know, you mentioned before, then you’ll have the added authority of being grammatically comprehensible.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:34 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.2   park rose bang

      I prefer to be grammatically reprehensible.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:41 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.3   anglophile bang

      I prefer to be grammatically prehensile.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:45 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.4   matty-wat

      As aforementioned, I prefer to be grammophonically quintessential.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 10:50 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.5   Canthz_B bang

      I prefer to be grammatically irresponsible.

      I be that way sometimes also too.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 11:24 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.6   Mo®

      Since my Grandma is dead she is;
      Grammy irretrievable.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:17 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #24   anglophile bang

    The table may not have been trash when it was put out to the curb, but it will be once I shove it out of the way with my bumper.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 6:19 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

    • #24.1   sleeps

      You know no decent table stands around on the street corner all night. (cough)slut!(cough)

      Feb 21, 2010 at 7:04 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.2   park rose bang

      Sure, the ones on the street corner are pretty good at doing it standing up. You know when your mother told you, ‘Will you please lay the table’… well, she didn’t know the path she was setting you on.

      The ones which have been bumped out of the way often don’t have a leg left to stand on. But you know acrotomophilia is on the rise, and after the bumping you can then do the grind, if you’re into that kind of thing.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 7:17 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.3   sleeps

      I don’t see nothin’ wrong with a little bump n’ grind. But I DO see something wrong with acrotomophilia, after googling wtf that is. Although I guess that was the point of that one Bloodhound Gang song called ‘You Ain’t Got No Legs (But I Love You Anyway)’

      Feb 21, 2010 at 7:38 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.4   park rose bang

      I know, who wants splinters up the vay-jay? Oh, wait, the bump and grind was not a problem…

      Just let this be a lesson to you boys and girls, tables and chairs, if you go out and get legless, someone is still bound to love you a little more than they love anyone else…

      And come on, sleeps, aren’t you being a bit judgmental. Where’s the ‘arm in it?

      Feb 21, 2010 at 7:46 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.5   sleeps

      Well, something just doesn’t seem right about it, but I don’t know what exactly. I’m stumped.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 7:52 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.6   park rose bang

      Aye, aye, that’s the nub of it.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 8:01 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.7   matty-wat

      That table WAS fucking delicious!

      Feb 21, 2010 at 10:51 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.8   JMonkey78 bang

      Lets be honest, if you leave a table out in New York, Boston, or Chicago, then it better be trash, because if it is of use, it will probably not be there when you return. Your parking lot reserver will be my new dinner table. Leaving a table outside in a metropolitan city is like a paper box that says “Free Take One”.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 2:48 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.9   Hex

      We don’t have much snow here in London, but if for some bizarre reason we did, it’d be the same here. I’ve left furniture out in my yard that I wanted to dispose of and found it gone within an hour or even less. Reserve a spot with something? Forget it mate.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 8:40 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #25   KayOkay from Toronto

    Where are the enterprising tweens and teenagers who want to make a buck by shovelling? Is that not popular in American cities?

    Not that there wouldn’t still be spot stealing, but fewer adults would be doing those big 3-hour workouts.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 6:27 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #25.1   anglophile bang

      They’re too busy playing Snow Shoveling on the Wii.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 6:29 pm   rating: 57  small thumbs up

       
    • #25.2   Via

      they’re also not willing to do any actual work for money.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #25.3   park rose bang

      Bless their philanthropic hearts.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 7:33 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #26   park rose bang

    Guess maybe the eightfold* PANs are a way to the eightfold path? Maybe the eightfold path is serviced by an efficient and safe public transport option? I know this isn’t an option everywhere.

    *I know we’re going to get an origami PAN on here one day.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 6:37 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #26.1   matty-wat

      Very good PR. You are on your way to enlightenment.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 11:07 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #26.2   park rose bang

      You know how it goes, matty-wat:

      Before enlightenment, a lawn chair is a lawn chair.
      During enlightenment, a lawn chair is no longer a lawn chair.
      After enlightenment, a lawn chair is a lawn chair again.

      Also, it’s cousin:

      Before enlightenment, carry shovel, dig out car.
      After enlightenment, carry shovel, dig out grave (for park-stealing bastards).

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:54 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #26.3   matty-wat

      For the cousin we can add:
      During enlightenment, become one with all parking spaces.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 9:00 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #27   eslinger bang

    Re: #20.1 – sleeps
    I’m all ears! ;)

    Gotta say, I’m so proud of Indianapolis for keeping it classy and polite! Hoosiers represent!

    And for the record, I have a driveway of sorts, but have been in the street parking situation, and never once “claimed it” as my own, no matter the weather. Get real.

    Team Finders, Keepers; Losers, Weepers!

    Feb 21, 2010 at 6:52 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #28   Paul Tomblin

    Somebody parked in my spot after I’d spent several hours shovelling it out. I poured several gallons of water on his car, and packed tons of snow over it. Unfortunately it wasn’t cold enough so he was eventually able to get his car out.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 6:59 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

     
  • #29   AMoparGirl

    I am SO glad I have a driveway!

    Feb 21, 2010 at 7:02 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   Hmmm

      For those of you unfamiliar with the term “Mopar”, it has now come to mean any vehicle from the Chrysler Corporation. It’s origin derives from the 1960′s MOtor PARts division which sold high performance engine parts for Dodge, Plymouth, and Chrysler.

      Guys, listen up – any girl smart enough to know what a Mopar is, is worth marrying!

      Feb 23, 2010 at 11:21 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #30   Stephanie

    I live in a mid-western city, and all of this spot-saving is bullshit. If I parked in your spot, that means that I, too, had to shovel a spot in order to get my own car out and move it. In a city, it’s usually hard enough to find a parking space without people insisting that a space sit empty all day while they’re at work.

    Unless you’re in the fourth grade, “quack quack spot back” just doesn’t cut it. Grow up. Everybody who lives here where it snows has to shovel. We all have to carry shovels in our trunks. We all think it sucks. If it prevents you from conducting yourself as an adult, then move where it doesn’t snow.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 7:08 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

     
  • #31   Wordtinker doesnt smith bang

    Mark your territory. Dogs do.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 7:09 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #32   Rebecca

    I am so glad that we choose to pay for parking where we live. I don’t have to deal with people who have to shovel themselves out. Best money we spend!

    Feb 21, 2010 at 7:13 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #32.1   Uhhuh

      You’re gross. Sounding.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 1:54 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.2   Canthz_B bang

      Really good doctors stopped using shovels for that decades ago! 8-O

      Feb 22, 2010 at 11:38 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #33   Policywank

    These people are lucky they found notes on their cars. I’ve lived in two places where parking in the spot that someone else shoveled would get your tires slit, your window broken, or both if the vandal felt like they could get away with both.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 7:27 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #33.1   snatchbeast

      But then doesn’t that mean that the car will be there even longer? Slashed tires are difficult to drive in, and if my seat is wet from snow falling into my car I would noo care to move it.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:54 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #34   Alexus

    It’s a public street. Get over it a-holes. Most of these comments just beg me to get a crappy car that barely runs, park it in your spot and set up cameras to catch you doing any damage to the car. You know … for evidence. For the whole willful and malicious destruction of property thing. Then all of sudden you will have bigger problems to worry about. And yes, I have applied this tactic to other situations. With great success.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 7:33 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

     
  • #35   Manda!

    Wow. I am glad I live in California where I get no snow what so ever… I don’t feel bad for never seeing snow after reading these gems!

    Feb 21, 2010 at 7:41 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #36   SET

    If it takes you 3 hours to shovel out a parking spot, you’re doing it wrong.

    Also I think it’s super unfair to assume that everyone knows these “rules”. I live in a part of Canada that gets tons of snow, and I’ve never heard of anything so ridiculous.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 7:52 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

     
  • #37   Eric

    This “owning” of a PUBLIC parking spot is ridiculous. If you don’t want someone else to park there, don’t shovel the snow. If you shoveled it to “reserve” it you’re just as ridiculous. Of course, I live in CA and it never snows where I live. If you tried putting out a chair with a note saying “this is my spot” you’d be likely to get YOUR @ss kicked. First come, first serve. No matter if you shovel the snow, sweep the leaves, or camp there. Get over it, Northeasters.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 8:02 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #37.1   sleeps

      You don’t shovel it ‘to reserve it’; you shovel it to unearth your car from the 5 feet of snow, ice, salt, sand and dirty slush that covers it when the snow plow goes by. This can truthfully take hours, outside in the freezing cold, while trying not to get hit by passing cars and PRAYING that the plow doesn’t come back by and cover you again. I can’t blame people for trying to reserve ‘their’ spot again; I’d probably try to claim dibs, but then not be surprised/too pissed off if someone else called ‘no takebacks’.

      Feb 21, 2010 at 8:14 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #38   CourtH

    I agree with the city of Boston.

    It’s the responsibility of city government to plow roads so that people can drive and park, but if it falls on the citizen to shovel out a spot they should be able to hold that spot until the city is able to do its job.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 8:27 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

     
  • #39   Dave Anthony

    I’m willing to overlook the hoarders for a few days after a big snow storm, but it pisses me off when they think they still have a right to the spot TWO WEEKS LATER after all the streets have been cleared. My neighborhood in Herndon, VA still has chairs holding spots. I’m tempted to go throw them all in the dumpster.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 8:32 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

     
  • #40   pm

    Some people don’t realize that parking spots are sometimes reserved in the summer too. Some homes are so close together there are no driveways and many of the older homes have become apartments, and more people now have cars. I live where I have a huge driveway and the city plows the street where people sometimes park. But, if I cleaned away the huge hard icy pile left by the snowplow I’d expect some consideration too. What goes around comes around you know, and sometimes it gets helped around.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 9:14 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #41   JK

    Wow! I’m glad I live in sunny California where there is no snow!

    Feb 21, 2010 at 9:15 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #41.1   Uhhuh

      Really? Tell me all about it..

      Feb 22, 2010 at 1:57 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #42   PhillyGuy

    I’m a lot less entertaining than most people on this thread! Overall I agree with Dave Anthony: a day or two after a massive disruptive snowstorm, when people only go out for quick runs to get beer and other essentials, holding your spot can be overlooked. I mean, nobody is really out trying to take it – they’re all inside staying warm and skipping work.

    But when does it stop? Do the renters next to me who have 3 cars really get to claim 3 spots on the street? Most of the year I clean their sidewalks, plant trees on the block, and call the cops when their drunken late night parties start waking up sleeping babies and old ladies.

    My vote is: you don’t own the spot unless your name is on the deed. If you don’t want to risk losing it, well…don’t leave the spot.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 9:32 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #43   ...

    Seriously. Try that chair shit in the middle of summer and see where it gets you. Just because there’s snow on the ground doesn’t mean anything.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 9:53 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #43.1   llamagirl

      actually, I grew up next to a high school football stadium that had no parking lot. When there was a game people would always park in front of my parents house and my dad would have to park on the other side of town when he got home from work. My mom finally started putting a chair in front of the house so he’d have a place to park and no one ever took it. It’s a respect thing. We may not own the road, but we do have the right to park in front of our own houses.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 11:17 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #43.2   sarahbee

      But the point is, you DON’T! You don’t have the RIGHT to park in front of your house. It’s a public street and you do not own it. 75% of the time, my neighbors (who don’t have parking in front of their own house) are parked in front of mine. It’s frustrating, but it’s also something that you just have to deal with.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 4:54 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #43.3   Vintage_K bang

      llamagirl, you know, I’m here trying to defend my own ass on why I claim a parking spot in 14 inch snow conditions for 1-2 days and here you are with this absurdity, I mean come on. I give up…

      Feb 22, 2010 at 5:03 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #44   Sheena

    Who takes 3 hours to clear a spot? I’ve lived in places that have plenty of snow (Alberta, Nova scotia…), it’s a 20 minute job max. It use to take less than an hour to shovel out my whole apartment building…. :/
    I’d don’t see any claim to a spot on a public street. If you want a reserved spot then pay the bit extra for a place that gives that to you (give up something else to pay for it if it’s important to you). The only exception to that is maybe when it’s cold and you need to be close enough to your house to plug in your car (but then everyone just makes sure to park in front of their own house so it works out fine).

    Feb 21, 2010 at 9:54 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #44.1   Rachel

      “but then everyone just makes sure to park in front of their own house so it works out fine”

      That’s a nice idea in theory, but what happens when there’s only space for one car in front of each house, and more than one car per house? In most parts of the residential areas of my city, that’s the case – and that’s hoping that there isn’t a fire hydrant claiming that spot first. (Of course, my city also has winter parking bans, but what about all those cities that aren’t prepared for snow, eh?)

      Feb 22, 2010 at 7:46 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #45   Canthz_B bang

    It doesn’t snow here in the sunny Phoenix, AZ area. But back on my old residential street in NJ, if you shoveled out the spot in front of your house, the neighbors generally respected that that was your spot.

    If someone who lived on the street took your spot, you were entitled to their first born child, or their car, whichever had fewer dents.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 10:07 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

     
  • #46   Grizzly

    Ah memories. I recall shovelling out a spot for my car, then walking up the street to get mine and by the time I came back a neighbour’s visitor from across the street had taken mine.

    I asked her to move it and she refused rather rudely.

    So I spent the next hour calmly shovelling snow back on to her car.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 10:09 pm   rating: 64  small thumbs up

    • #46.1   bethie

      That makes my heart happy.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 9:17 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #46.2   farcical snow ceremony

      mine too
      <3

      Feb 22, 2010 at 11:31 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #46.3   HotDog Head

      This has nothing to do with snow, but reminds me of a story.

      I went to a college (CSU Northridge) with a HUGE population of commuting students. Parking was always a bitch, especially on the first day of classes when everyone would show up.

      On this particular first day of classes I got there 2 HOURS before my first class and still got to class late (after parking at a Chili’s and later getting towed…).

      Anyway.

      I watched a woman in the (completely full) parking garage patiently wait for a car to pull out of a spot, but when she started to pull in, another car came out of nowhere and stole the spot. Naturally, the woman got out to have words with the person, who just kept walking. If she had taken a golf club that that person’s windshield (or head), even though there were dozens of people watching, no one would’ve seen a thing.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 4:01 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #47   Canthz_B bang

    Isn’t porking shitboxes illegal within the city limits of Boston?

    I know they do that kind of thing up in Lynn, but Boston?

    Feb 21, 2010 at 10:22 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #48   Lisa

    Aww gee, here in Buffalo we have something called snow plows.

    I’d actually love to see a lawn chair mine-sies game in the hood. It would be awesome.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 10:31 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #48.1   Canthz_B bang

      You mean the plows that come down the street and plow you back in just when you’re almost finished digging out so you can move your car before the plow arrives?

      Yeah, they’re special winter treats. :-)

      Feb 21, 2010 at 10:50 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #48.2   anon

      Buffalo. The place last year where it snowed for 5 days straight and not a single plow came down my street for over 7 days. That’s the Buffalo you’re talking about, right?

      This year they seem to have found the street, but we’ve hardly had any snow. Now they’re just giving out tickets if you stay in a spot more than 24 hours.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 11:04 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #49   TippingCows

    I know when I lived in Medford (and a couple of other Boston suburbs), during snow emergencies you could only park on a certain side of the street (odd or even numbers). I don’t know if they still do that but it is a bitch. I didn’t mind walking five minutes to my car every morning, actually. But if you’re that concerned and it’s that competitive, just call into work. Keep the car in the spot and play video games all day or something. It’s not worth getting that upset over it.

    Feb 21, 2010 at 11:00 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #50   Little Miss Trouble

    A guy in my building (in Chicago) uses this excuse to keep a parking spot in front of our building reserved at all times. He doesn’t even shovel the space out; he just puts chairs there and keeps them there until April.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 12:13 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #51   Josie

    I’m so glad that I don’t have to deal with this… we Vancouverites just helicopter snow in when we need it, and enjoy the fine warm weather when we don’t!!

    Feb 22, 2010 at 12:45 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #52   Heldt

    Here in Germany we
    a) use in addition to the barrels/chairs a rope or even barrier tape to mark our spots.
    still, we
    b) usually don’t care about shoveling anything free and just park on the snow.

    If you had more snow than we had here you are _really_ in trouble…

    However, if you don’t tell people not to park on the spot (e.g. by taping a message on the barrel) some people that don’t know about this unwritten law and park there. Or, at least I would…

    Feb 22, 2010 at 2:59 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #53   KIND GENTLE GUY

    Thank non-existent god I live in England, not having to deal with arrogant, selfish and petty individuals. (like you C***s pointlessly moaning) This message is for anyone who feels this applies to them.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 4:09 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #53.1   park rose bang

      Well, I don’t know, gentle nice guy. Your fellow Brit, Grant, brought up 6″. I didn’t think my moaning was pointless.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 8:09 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #54   kevin

    being from florida i have no idea about this… but just makes me more afraid to ever move up north for fear of screwing up some cultural tradition involving lawn furniture.
    at the same time if i was driving along and saw chairs over and over again i’d probably assume it meant i couldn’t park there…

    Feb 22, 2010 at 6:04 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #54.1   Canthz_B bang

      That’s what you’d assume?

      I’d be looking around for a drive-in theater screen if I saw chairs on the street one after another, a rodeo if I saw barrels.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 7:54 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #54.2   molly ringwald

      i would be looking for a mardi gras parade because where i’m from, that’s the only time it’s socially acceptable to mark your spot with a lawn chair.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 12:26 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #55   at2002

    Its not that people who park in spots other people shoveled don’t *know* snow-parking-space etiquette, they don’t care about it.
    I moved to a small town with street parking-no public transportation here. No one had to tell me that I shouldn’t park in a spot someone else shoveled. But, I still thought it was douchy when I saw someone leave a note on a spot-violator’s car.

    Now, to start acting old-what’s wrong with kids these days? My neighbor has a 19yr old and twin 13yr old boys-he and his wife shoveled, then paid some of the enterprising day laborers to finish. Isn’t that why we have kids-legal slave labor?

    Feb 22, 2010 at 6:38 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #56   Kelly

    I have shoveled god only knows how much snow this year, and after this last snowstorm i finally managed to dig out a spot for my car right out in front of my house, when my neighbor rented a plow truck and DUMPED ALL OF THE SNOW FROM HIS DRIVEWAY INTO THE SPOT I HAD SO *DILIGENTLY* SHOVED BY HAND.

    These people are lucky no one smashed said placeholders through their windshields =P

    Feb 22, 2010 at 6:54 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

     
  • #57   [c]

    these notes display one of many reasons i love living in the south!

    Feb 22, 2010 at 7:15 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #58   Canthz_B bang

    Did they have an exhumation order from the court to “unbury” that aforementioned car?

    Feb 22, 2010 at 7:48 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #59   hungrygrrl

    My problem with ‘saving spots’- this means that all you can do is go to work and come back home. You can’t visit friends because you might be taking someone’s spot! You can’t have people over, because they might be taking someone’s spot! The horrors. It’s not the snow that makes me hate going into town (metro Boston up in here!) in the winter, its the fact that there is no where for a visitor to park.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 8:12 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #59.1   Rachel

      I feel you! Our driveway parks six cars – one for each apartment, but the way it’s arranged, if anyone else parks in the driveway, you’re blocking in at least four cars, and there’s no parking on the streets in the winter. It’s the only time of the year when I’m actually kind of glad some of my friends don’t have cars – it might mean I have to go pick them up and drop them off, but at least I don’t have to worry about them getting a ticket because I asked them over, or an angry neighbor (or four) pounding on my door because they can’t get out of the drive!

      Feb 22, 2010 at 7:53 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #60   K

    Oh Boston. Road rage, parking rage, yankees rage… never change.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 8:23 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #61   Dan

    City folks are so fickel…

    Feb 22, 2010 at 8:24 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #62   threeseven

    Pshawwww, try to “save” yourself a spot in the parking hell that is NYC.

    You shoveled this spot? Good, thanks for clearing it for me.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 8:49 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #63   Bunnee

    Down here in the South, our parking woes don’t involve snow. They involve baking, scorching sun. You know, molten-hot steering wheels that are too hot to touch, car seats that scorch the backs of your legs, etc…Prime parking spaces usually involve shade of some sort, like under a tree. If I saw a lawn chair reserving a spot in the shade, I would just wait a few minutes. It will spontaneously combust at some point, and Voila! A parking spot in the shade!

    Feb 22, 2010 at 8:56 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #63.1   Augustian

      Amen to that. Or leaving candy in your car only to have it melt into a goopy stain. The only problem with shade spots is the moving sun. In some ways, the sun is less fightable than the snow :(

      Feb 23, 2010 at 2:03 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #64   Ridiculous

    If you want a reserved spot, pay for one. Period.

    If there is a bad storm, everyone who needs to move their car on the street needs to shovel it out. If you don’t need to move your car, you can leave it there covered in snow. Therefore, there is a finite number of spots which are shoveled out. If someone parks in “your” spot, they must have shoveled out another spot someplace else. The thought of leaving spots open all day long just because someone thinks they own the street is absurd.

    I live in a busy neighborhood in Queens, NY, and I shoveled out my car, left, and returned about 12 hours later. Guess what, “my” spot was taken, but I found another one a few streets over. Big deal, I had to drive around an extra 15 minutes and walk a few blocks. I sure as heck didn’t throw a temper tantrum like a 4 year old about it.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 8:58 am   rating: 23  small thumbs up

    • #64.1   threeseven

      I live in queens too. Forest Hills to be exact. Parking there on a sunny day is more or less a bloodsport, you try “saving” yourself a spot.
      This past snowstorm,I had to shovel my car out that had been plowed in an extra 2 feet by the plow. It took me about 30 minutes. I guarantee it was taken no less than 5 minutes after I vacated the spot, and know what else? When I got home, I parked in a spot someone else had cleared.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 9:38 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #64.2   BlackMarketBeagle

      Dudes, Queens girl here! Forest Hills too. Down on the other side of the tracks, you know, near Corona.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 11:51 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #65   Southpaw

    As nice as it is that they shovelled out the snow, that doesn’t magically make the spot theirs once they leave. It doesn’t matter how much time they spent on shovelling, it’s still public domain for parking and gluing a note to their car/smashing their windows/or otherwise damaging their car is still illegal and if you’re turned in for it will still land you a few thousand dollars poorer.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 9:09 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #66   bridget

    seriously? you shovel out so that you can LEAVE and get to another destination, not so you have a space to park in when you return… i have never left a shoveled out parking space and expected it to be there when i got back. i guess Virginia is just more reasonable than our neighboring states.

    if you don’t like dealing with city parking, buy a house with a driveway or return to the country.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 9:37 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #67   anon-anon

    Well, this just about never happens in New York.

    If you pull out of a spot, its GONE. Tough luck.

    If you leave something in that spot to save it, its going to get (a) run over or (b) stolen.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 9:38 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

     
  • #68   reyna

    If I spent 3 hours shoveling out one parking spot, I’d consider myself mentally retarded and stay home. Stop with the friggin hyperbole already.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 9:50 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #69   ANgela

    Can I blame this on being an American thing? In Canada either the snow plough will dig you out, or you just drive back and forth until you have ‘ploughed’ your own way out of the snow bank.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 9:58 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #69.1   farcical snow ceremony

      This isn’t actually meant to be humorous, just (possibly) explanatory~in places like D.C., where we normally get, oh, two inches of snow at a time, folks are much more likely to have purchased vehicles that just can’t handle any kind of real snowstorm…

      Feb 22, 2010 at 11:39 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #69.2   HonestB

      As a Canadian, let me tell you: it isn’t the vehicle, it’s the tires. Snow tires are not optional if you live someplace with real winter.

      Mar 5, 2010 at 2:53 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #70   Jazz

    How very bizarre. Here in Montreal you shovel yourself out and leave, too bad. I’ve never heard of anything like this…

    Feb 22, 2010 at 10:03 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #71   Wednesday

    @ Jugga Jugga: Whoop Whoop !!! Much Clown Love !!

    Feb 22, 2010 at 10:09 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #72   Dutiful Daughter

    We just put Gramma out on the curb with a LOT of hot strong coffee and her cane–she enjoys yelling “Git off’a my space!” at all those young whippersnappers. And it keeps her busy and out of the my hair ;).

    Feb 22, 2010 at 11:06 am   rating: 23  small thumbs up

     
  • #73   llamagirl

    Oh this is nothing. In Pittsburgh if you move someone’s Parking Chair and steal their spot you run the risk of your car getting vandalized or worse, re-buried… http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/22514683/detail.html

    Feb 22, 2010 at 11:06 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #74   Candy

    Surveyed my office after I read this. We live in Chicago. Every person who thinks saving the spot is ok voted for Obama. Only one guy thought it was stupid and you shouldn’t. He voted for the other guy.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 11:52 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #74.1   anglophile bang

      Interesting sociological study, Candy, but I feel your sample (office workers from Chicago) might not give a true picture of the topic. I’d like to see results from other PAN commenters around the country.

      FTR, I don’t think saving your spot is ok, and I voted for Obama.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 12:01 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #74.2   threeseven

      I think “saving” spots is ridiculous, and I am a bleeding heart liberal.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 1:07 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #74.3   HotDog Head

      I, too, voted for Obama, and think saving a (public) spot is stupid.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:47 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #74.4   matty-wat

      I’m from Chicago, anti-parking-spot-saving and an Obama fan. Perhaps the fact that Obama has strong Chicago ties and a great majority of Chicagoans, including da Mare, think it’s ok to save a spot skewed the results. What is your real agenda Candy?

      Feb 22, 2010 at 8:29 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #74.5   Pterosaur

      I voted for Obama, and I just “accidentally” slid your space-saving chair out into the street so the plow will crush it.

      Sure is slippery today. Whoops.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 10:28 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #74.6   Juniper

      I voted for Obama, and I just paid that homeless guy down the street 20 bucks to go steal the chair out of the spot so when I drove by 5 minutes later, there was no chair and all the looky lous watching out their windows could vouch that the spot was unmarked when I showed up. I take care of the homeless.

      Mar 2, 2010 at 1:58 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #74.7   Canthz_B bang

      Obama had something to do with snow parking in Chi-town this winter?
      BOY, THAT BROTHA IS POWERFUL!!!
      Most Presidents can barely deal with things within the Beltway!!

      Or maybe you’re just an idiot. The world wonders.

      I voted for Obama, but I had to because of a genetic calling…like sea turtles returning to their birth beach to lay eggs…had nothing to do with the issues.

      And here I thought Conservatives were the ones who were into keeping things as they were in the past. Now I know that their parking spaces are Progressive.
      I’ll re-think my politics based upon this new, enlightened information…or maybe not.

      Thanks, Candy, for giving me snack food for thought. :???:

      Mar 2, 2010 at 2:08 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #74.8   Canthz_B bang

      Here’s a tip for you, Candy, any person born of an American citizen is an American citizen at birth, (to be eligible for the post of President, one must be an American at birth)…no matter where they happen to be born.
      That means that if you are on vacation in Kenya , and you are an American citizen and give birth abroad, your child is an American citizen automatically.

      Put this particular baby to bed…and learn a little about citizenship.
      I really can’t see how this has gotten such long legs, except the fact that too many of us don’t know our own history and laws.

      Sad really.

      What? You think that if you’re on vacation in Yugoslavia and happen to give birth while there, your child is not an American and cannot grow up to be President? That she needs to apply for citizenship? Take a US history test to get a passport to come home with you???

      Birth certificate that!!!!

      Mar 2, 2010 at 3:49 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #74.9   Canthz_B bang

      The really fucked up thing is that you don’t even need to know citizenship law or the Constitution…just be able to see common sense played out in real life circumstances as the Founding Fathers were able to see it.
      Travel was time-consuming, really time-consuming, over two hundred years ago, The FFs knew that their pregnant wives just may give birth abroad, so they covered that shit in writing.

      God! Get a grip “Birthers”! You are wrong!

      Obama’s mother was an American citizen. She could have given birth to him on Mars, and he would still be an American citizen by birth…that’s the law. Deal with it.

      Mar 2, 2010 at 4:17 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #75   DavidSKi

    I live in Little Italy, baltimore, md where the chair thing is local neighborhood law. Ive seen flat tires (air let out, not slashed) because of some asshole moving a chair and parking in someone’s spot.

    Me? Someone parks in my spot, I will rebury them and let them see how fun it is. What even more fun if the car i just reburied belongs from an out of towner, in town for a nice dinner.

    Guaranteed no shovel. Enjoy!

    Feb 22, 2010 at 12:25 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #75.1   threeseven

      The street is public property. It’s not your own personal parking space, regardless of whether you dug a spot out.

      By your reasoning, if I sweep the sidewalk in front of my building, nobody but me can walk on it.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 1:08 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #76   Vintage_K bang

    I live in an “urban” area, in NJ. A couple of weeks ago, when that snowstorm finally hit us, we received 14 inches of snow. I digged out my car in approximately an hour and a half (with a smoke break included). The following morning on my way to work everyone in my neighborhood had trashcans/chairs situated in their spots where they dug out the night before. Sooooooooo, I grabbed a chair and claimed my spot. There is limited parking in my area and I wasn’t going to let another lazy asshole park there for at least the next 2 days (tops!). I do drive around with a shovel in my trunk just in case of emergencies (thankyouverymuch). Receiving tickets for placing chairs and what have you, don’t necessarily happen in my town, as snow plowers don’t really do their jobs anyway. With all that said, if you received a lovely note like one of the above, you effin’ deserved it! So spare me the drama, nobody gives a damn. Ooh and yes…bite me!

    Tootles! ;)

    Feb 22, 2010 at 12:32 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

     
  • #77   Brian

    I think I’ll just let all you assholes argue over this stupid shit and ride on past on my bike, or walk past on my way to the train station to pick up my I-Go reservation.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 1:20 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #77.1   anglophile bang

      Oh hey look everybody! We have a Superior Being in our midst!

      I only hope Brian has further words of wisdom for us. I for one must be an asshole because I can’t ride a bike the 17 miles I drive to work in 0°F temperature at 5 am. I’m sure it’s my fault too that there’s no public transportation between my home and my work.

      God, I’m such an asshole.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 1:26 pm   rating: 33  small thumbs up

       
    • #77.2   JMonkey78 bang

      You an asshole? Surely not. Brian on the other hand, well maybe the pompous variety. Hope thats a ten speed you got, cause when I get my truck out your gonna need all ten speeds to get that thing outta my way as I fishtail down the road.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 9:27 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #78   Liosis

    You are all silly. You are simply reacting to the passive-aggression in the notes. Yes, passive-aggression is bad. That does not mean that the act of taking advantage of someone’s hard work isn’t wrong. If I found a chair in the dumpster and fixed it and painted it and tied a little ribbon on it it should be obvious that it is mine. That is the same as stealing someones parking spot. It requires the same work and commitment, in fact it requires more work!

    Feb 22, 2010 at 1:27 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #78.1   anglophile bang

      (a)Yes, we are all simply reacting to the passive-aggression in the notes. You see, that is what we do here.

      (b) Where I come from, the street is the street. It’s first-come-first-served and if you don’t want to risk losing your spot you don’t move your car. Anyone attempting to reserve a spot looks like a fool and a jerk. Where I come from. I accept there may be other cultures where this is acceptable behavior, but I don’t want to live there.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 1:33 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #78.2   Vintage_K bang

      Ummm, excuse me glo’, I’m not a fool or a jerk. More like fabulous and a bitch. :lol: I know I know (you said where you come from), just teasing. And yes, you wouldn’t like living here. Shit, sometimes I don’t!

      Feb 22, 2010 at 2:00 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #78.3   JMonkey78 bang

      I may actually be a fool and a jerk, but I refuse to reserve my parking place, though I did write my name on my stapler. I had to take it from someone this morning whom thought they were going to defile it by stapling their papers with it. Damn these people and their lack of boundaries. Its mine, all mine I tell you.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 9:30 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #79   S

    This all makes me laugh. I’ve never seen this happen in Minneapolis, and we’ve been battling horrible parking all winter.

    Even now when new parking restrictions have been placed so we can only park on one side of the street, nobody is pulling this.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 1:33 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #80   Matt

    I’m sorry, but the great rules of “finders keepers, losers weepers” dictate that you’re sol once you leave that spot open for 4-8 hours.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 1:39 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #81   Jen

    I live in Chicago (and i actually mean the CITY not some stupid suburb!), and i think “saving” a spot is stupid. The street (even if its infront of your house) is not YOUR property and neither is the sidewalk in front of your house! if there is a crack in the side walk…you cant fix it on your own, you need to call the city to come out and fix it. I’ve lived here my entire life…never had the luxury of a driveway or garage, and despite all that…i have NEVER EVER saved a parking spot with some thing…NEVER! And i say Shame on you! to the people who have and continue too…I hope everyones chairs, strollers, toilets, bed frames, cones and any other random object you put out to “save” your spot, gets stolen or moves it and takes your spot. There are more important things to worry about than a parking spot.

    If you live somewhere w/ snow…you know what to expect. get over it and stop being a baby. If its that bad…MOVE your stupid lazy ass somewhere else!

    Feb 22, 2010 at 1:39 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #81.1   Vintage_K bang

      No Jen, I say SHAME on YOU! There are more important things to worry about than a parking spot, definitely. I’m 5’0 and weigh 14…(well actually that’s not important), and refuse to shovel every parking spot in my neighborhood for anybody else that doesn’t feel like it. I’m not being a baby or a stupid lazy ass but where I come from *insert slang* “don’t nobody give a fuck about anyone else but themselves”. So yes, if I shovel more than 10 inches of snow off my car and its surrouding, I’m claiming it just like everyone else in my neighborhood claim theirs. I won’t go as far as keying cars or writing PAN notes (since I don’t have the balls to do it) but I will be fuming (inside of course). And the next time (and yes I will continue to claim my shit), I will use a toilet so thanks for the tip.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 2:16 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #81.2   matty-wat

      Well said Jen but FYI, property owners are indeed responsible for the upkeep/repair of the sidewalk in front of their homes. When the city makes the repair, you get a bill even though it is not your property. In the interest of full disclosure I used to live in the city but now reside in a “stupid suburb”.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 8:09 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #81.3   JMonkey78 bang

      VK question, since you won’t give us the weight how about the measurements. LOL. Oh and if you need some help moving that toilet out there just let me know, sounds like some good clean fun. I got to warn you though I am gonna build a snow man taking a dump on it while you are at work.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 9:34 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #82   Snow Parker

    Yes, the parking spot saving in Boston is fierce. This year, I finally got mad enough at someone stealing my spot that I wrote “You Jerk” on a door–with my keys.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 1:56 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #82.1   Mo®

      A nice formerly steaming pile of human excrement along with boot prints on the hood is a good message sender.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:20 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #82.2   Vintage_K bang

      (((TIMO)))

      Thanks for the ludicrous outburst of laughter I just sang in my almost mute/silenced office. And yeah, I can be down with that! :lol:

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:27 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #82.3   Bossy

      Yeah, they parked in a public spot…you keyed a car…and THEY’RE the jerk? C’mon.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 8:49 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #82.4   JMonkey78 bang

      Actually I hope that is not your “real” picture. I mean you just admitted to vandalizing a car.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 9:35 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #82.5   Mo® bang

      Yes, I am an evil monkey.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 10:13 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #83   Emily

    Whats with all the “if you think the spot saving is dumb then you must have a driveway?” Ive lived in Chicago for the past 3 years. I have a car and I park it on the street. Now Ive never taken anyones spot that had chairs, cones, trashcans or whatever else- but not because I think its wrong but because I dont want my car keyed. I think its pretty rude (and illegal in Chicago) to mark off your own spot. So guess what, when I come home at 7:30 at night and the only spot left on my street is your spot thats blocked off I think youre the asshole.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 1:57 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #83.1   JMonkey78 bang

      Duelly noted, while I am indoors warming my feet by the fire, while you on the other hand are outside searching for a parking spot.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 9:36 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #84   Tom

    I didn’t leave a note. I just buried the free rider with the snow that I shoveled. I feel it is fair that everyone get the opportunity to shovel snow.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 2:09 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #85   Janey

    Haven’t these people heard of “Move your feet, lose your seat”? Same basic rule applies here.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 2:18 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #85.1   Vintage_K bang

      Is the seat covered in 14 inches of snow? ;)

      Feb 22, 2010 at 2:32 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #86   Tracy

    As an overly hostile note writer in Baltimore during this past blizzard, I highly regret the things I put on paper.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 2:38 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #87   Al

    When I lived in Chicago a couple times someone knocked on my door, asking me if I (or my roommates) had moved her bucket. I think she knocked on every door on the block, screaming and cursing all the way. For the record, we were innocent — I had an uncovered spot in the alley behind the building (it was a bitch to get out of in heavy snow, but at least in the alley people didn’t write gang signs in the snow on the back window).

    Feb 22, 2010 at 2:54 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #88   JMonkey78 bang

    I live in Oklahoma and we got 18 inches of snow, doesn’t sound right to me either, earlier this year. I cleaned my car off, got the doors unstuck and moved it out of the driveway, so I could clean the driveway off. I got through and it was late, so I went to bed. When I came out my neighbor had parked in my driveway, because his was covered in snow. Apparently he works nights and his sleep and energy is more valuable than mine. My wife would not let me tow him, or he would have really been wondering where his car was.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 2:56 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #88.1   anglophile bang

      OMG.

      Had he been my neighbor, the cops would have been waking him up.

      What. the. hell.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:47 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #88.2   JMonkey78 bang

      I actually just peed on his door handles.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 9:38 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #88.3   Mo® bang

      of his house!

      Feb 23, 2010 at 10:14 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #89   JMonkey78 bang

    Did anyone else notice that Chris drove all the way home before noticing the note glued to his mirror. That to me is more alarming than the note. He drove some distance and never once checked all his mirrors. Being that this one should have been on the same side as the road, he pulled out and never even checked for oncoming traffic.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 3:11 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #89.1   Vintage_K bang

      Oooh the monkey is hilarious! :lol:

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:14 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #90   noah

    wow, when i lived in madison, wisconsin, nobody ever said anything about a stupid rule like that, and I wouldn’t have followed it if they had.

    You shovel out a space, and then that space is yours forever? Ridiculous. I park where there’s room. If you want the space you shovel out, shovel it out right before you park.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 3:14 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #90.1   Vintage_K bang

      Who said “forever”? Talk about ridiculous.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:17 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #90.2   noah

      sorry, “forver” was a bad choice of words. “indefinitely” would have been more accurate.

      In any event, you do not get to reserve a public parking space. This is illegal in every city I’ve ever lived in, including two cold-weather cities. It’s nice that people have this convention, I suppose, but I see no reason why I should have to follow it.

      My mom lives in a warm weather city, and neighbors often take up the stops in front of her house. If you can do what these angry note-leavers do, why can’t my mom block off the spots in front of her house. Both situations are about sacrificing the convenience of others for your own benefit.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:29 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #90.3   HotDog Head

      So what’s the timing on this? Do you get to leave a chair in that spot all day while you’re at work? Or is it a, “I double parked down the block, but I’ll be back in five minutes” thing?

      If it’s the former, fuck you, you can’t do that. It’s a public space, and even common courtesy says you can’t hang on to a space YOU DON’T PAY FOR for 8+ hours a day.

      If it’s the latter, then those note-writers are in the right.

      FWIW, I’m from NYC. If people left out chairs like that they’d be laughed out of town, and then someone would take your chair.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:39 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #90.4   Vintage_K bang

      Noah, my love…

      As I stated before, people in my neighborhood claim spots so I guess, (the follower that I am), I do the same. This is of course, in the event of 10 inches of snow or more. We do not reserve parking any other time during the year, season or weather situations. And pretty much 2 day maximum. I really don’t know how illegal it is in my town since I’ve never received a ticket for the past 14 years. The law enforcement apparently have bigger and better things to do like eating donuts, keeping tabs on the druglords and pimps that form in our corners and high-speed chasing stolen cars to care about garbage sitting on curbs during snow storms.

      And if everyone jumped off the bridge, I probably would too BUT I will NEVER jump on the Yankees bandwagon…NO SIREEEE. :lol:

      Feb 22, 2010 at 3:54 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #90.5   Vintage_K bang

      HotDog, “fuck me” really? no darling, fuck you! :mrgreen:

      I live in an area where is mostly building/aparments and houses. Obviously is different if you lived in an area where there was offices and stores, then I can see where claiming spots would be a problem. Sheesh, whatever…I’m going back to my gin & tonic. :P

      Feb 22, 2010 at 4:08 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #90.6   HotDog Head

      Sorry to be so harsh, Vintage, but it’s true: it’s public property, and even if you leave a beautiful, complete wicker furniture set in a parking spot, it ain’t yours and I can take it. If you want guaranteed parking, pay for it.

      Now, me personally, I probably wouldn’t take your spot, because I’d be worried that you’d be “right back” and want your spot.

      What gets me is I don’t understand how it’s fair to claim a spot–again, that you don’t pay for–if you vacate it for hours on end.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 4:39 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #90.7   Vintage_K bang

      I would NEVER leave a beautiful, complete wicker furniture set in a parking spot HotDog, I may be crazy but not idiotic! :lol:

      Unfortunately, I already pay for parking at work ($185 a month) and I’m sure as hell am not going to pay for parking at home. I got bills to pay homey! If everybody on my block does it, then, I’ll be damn, I’m doing it too. *read other post regarding bridge*. I know it is not right but ooh well…

      Feb 22, 2010 at 4:53 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #91   Noodle

    I think it might be more of a thing where snow isn’t usually that intense. I’m from an area where snow lasts maybe two days and, while it’s there, I don’t usually have to go anywhere. Good thing, too, because my car doesn’t drive at all on ice or snow. In order to dig my car out, the area around it and behind/in front of it has to be completely snow and ice free, which sucks because I have back problems and can’t shovel for long.

    Luckily, though, I haven’t had to go much anywhere during snowmaggedon, so I wasn’t too upset when someone parked in my old pristine spot. I just gathered up a couple people and rolled it on to an icy one (all the spots have a 3-inch sheet of ice on them now… worse than snow, IMO, and they won’t plow it) and it’s going to sit there until the ice melts or I absolutely have to get out again. That said, I definitely can understand why some people get so mad, especially in areas that usually don’t get this much snow where there’s zlich public transport and very little plowing. I don’t think it’s worth vandalism, though.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 3:20 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #92   snatchbeast

    When I lived in Boston and it was bitchtastic snow weather I’d pretend it was trash day and pick up the items that people would leave in the street. Why’s there a table in the street? It must be trash day! I furnished my first apartment this way and am forever grateful. If you fear losing your spot so much, take public transportation.

    The street is the street. It’s public property.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 3:44 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #92.1   Bcteagirl

      That is *awesome* :)

      Feb 22, 2010 at 4:17 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #93   Ti

    Dear Everyone East of the Mississippi River (excepting Wisconsin):

    There are these things called snow-plows. They are big machines that push the snow out of the road for you. It’s like magic! Start a petition, get them on your next state ballot, and vote for them. This will solve all your problems.

    Signed,
    The state of Colorado

    P.S. Eighteen inches, D.C.? Don’t make me laugh.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 4:31 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #93.1   HotDog Head

      Snow plows push the snow out of the road ONTO cars. Hence a good chunk of the problem.

      Thanks for playing, though.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 4:44 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #93.2   TippingCows

      Er, snow plows don’t help street parking much. Actually, I am inclined to think they hinder it. In fact, they do. I can’t remember how many times I’ve cursed out plows because they’ve made me have to shovel out my car not once, but twice.
      Bastards.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 12:50 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #94   amii

    The glued one is just an invitation for retribution. I can take cussing when I make a stoopid, but for the glued one, I’d have to leave a glued note that said, “okey dokey!”

    Feb 22, 2010 at 4:42 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #95   eslinger bang

    Someone mentioned several posts up something about neighbors parking in their driveway, and others have mentioned that no one “owns” a space on a public street. That being said…

    My mom had me block the front entrance to our driveway with my car because our coke-head neighbor/slum-lord kept parking there, even though it was technically our driveway (yes, my mom actually had a surveyor check to be sure). He could have had his coke-head girlfriend move her car from behind his via the back entrance of the driveway into the alley, but no, he decided to instead move my car using his car as a “plow” of sorts. What happened? I got a parking ticket for $3.00. It’s illegal for you to block YOUR OWN DRIVEWAY. >.<

    The only space that we had any claim to on our street was the handicapped space that the city put directly in front of our house for my handicapped grandmother to park in. That didn't stop the local pimps, crackwhores, and other ne'er-do-wells living around us from parking there, though. And this was all year around, not just in winter. The only bright spot was in calling the cops and having the vehicles towed for parking there illegally. Passive aggressive FTW! :)

    Feb 22, 2010 at 5:22 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #95.1   oi bang

      Even though there are so many things in this comment that can be shocking, I was shocked that you got a parking ticket for $3!!!!! really? where do you live? or was that $30.That’s what I got for parking at expired meter for 10 minutes.

      Feb 22, 2010 at 5:36 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.2   anglophile bang

      I was shocked that eslinger thinks that somehow the police know which car she drives and where she lives.

      Of course you got a ticket. You were parked illegally. You think the cops stop and look up who owns every car they ticket? :roll:

      Feb 23, 2010 at 4:38 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.3   eslinger bang

      The police did know where I lived–they were there to investigate the situation of the coke-head shoving my car into the street with his car. It wasn’t the matter of me blocking the driveway that they gave a shit about, it was the flipped out neighbor. Re-read it, you might understand. The parking ticket was for lulz because the neighbor was pissed off that they weren’t going to do anything to me.

      Now do you get it, anglophile?

      Feb 23, 2010 at 6:29 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.4   anglophile bang

      I have to admit I barely scanned your story in the first place.

      I have difficulty sympathizing with people who think they don’t have to obey rules. I’m quite sure your city ordinance does not state: “Cars must be parked at least 4 feet from a driveway except if the driveway is yours and you have a crackhead neighbor you want to antagonize and you think it would be really cute to passive-aggressively park him in. That’ll show him, won’t it, and our police force will be happy to come to your residence once he flips out and causes damage to your car, ha ha ha.” :roll:

      Feb 23, 2010 at 6:37 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.5   eslinger bang

      It wasn’t a matter of thinking I was above the law, so to speak. My mom had told me (I was 16 at the time) to park in front of our driveway when I came home from school so that he and his girlfriend would get the hint to quit parking in our driveway (asking nicely for months had done nothing). The part of the story I didn’t include was that he came pounding on my door, threatening to kill me if I didn’t move my “f***ing car.” He was in a rage like few I’ve seen before. I called my mom at work, scared as hell because he was screaming at me and kicking my car. That led to the cops coming to investigate. Honestly, I didn’t think he’d flip out like that, because they had an exit. It’s not like they were trapped in the driveway just because I blocked the front portion.

      Oddly, at the time, I didn’t realize how PA my mom was, nor that it was a truly PA thing to have me do. If I’d known how things would have ended, I wouldn’t have done it.

      I just thought the $3.00 parking ticket compared to him having charges brought against him for threatening bodily harm to a minor was pretty… idk… amusing?

      Wasn’t trying to rile anyone up.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 6:51 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.6   Canthz_B bang

      I once had my car towed away by the city because it wasn’t properly parked…right in front of my house.
      I had to push it there because of a blown gasket, so it wasn’t really all that perfectly parked, but they towed it calling it an abandoned vehicle. You’d think they’d use the same means they do when they pull you over to check on the registration connected to the fucking plates (“Who the fuck abandons a vehicle right in front of their house, Your Honor?! No, I don’t have contempt for this court. How much again? Pay the clerk, okay.”) but that would make too much sense…and not enough dollars.

      Cut to the present.
      I’ve gotten two notices on my car informing me that my tags have expired. NO DUH! I paid my registration online last August and these incompetent bastards never sent me new tags. You’d think they could check if the registration is valid before they bother to fill out a form that says “If you’ve paid, disregard this notice.” wouldn’t you?
      We pay these nimrods a salary?!

      Where were we again?

      Feb 23, 2010 at 7:36 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.7   eslinger bang

      I’m waiting to get a ticket for my 2-wheel trailer hitch having expired tags for the same reason, CB. Paid online at the same time I renewed my regular plates, got the new stickers for those, but not the hitch. Gotta love incompetence! ;)

      Feb 23, 2010 at 11:39 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #95.8   Sera

      The jerk local cops had to walk into my driveway (long LOOONG driveway, garage is basically behind the house) and look behind my car to see my plates were expired by 3 days, and left a ticket on my front door. When I asked about it, as it was on my property , near the back of my lot, they said it “lowered the value of my neighborhood.” Ok, from my front window I can see a rusted out early 90′s Mustang, a truck that probably hasn’t legally passed smog in 30 someodd years, and a slew of other beat up buckets.

      My car that was 3 days past? A 4 year old Mercedes in pristine condition that I just hadn’t gotten around to registering this year since I was traveling for work. (Note: I am not super rich, the car was a hand me down when a family member wanted a new hybrid.. he is super rich :) ) Apparently, anyone buying a house was going to see a 3 day expired tag and start a bid war lowering a house value down by 50k or so….

      Mar 2, 2010 at 2:12 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #96   JJ Funk

    One reason why I live in Tampa.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 5:43 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #97   senor coconut

    What is this “snow?”

    Living in the tropics rules.

    You may all laugh at me when another hurricane comes right at me.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 6:11 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #97.1   Cheri

      I would take a hurricane over all this any day!!! (remembers several years ago when we got 5 across the state, and we spent a total of 6 weeks w/o power. I hate the cold!!) I live on the Space Coast.

      Feb 25, 2010 at 3:17 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #98   2fs

    The Boston law does NOT say a space you shoveled out is yours for 48 hours. It says that if you mark the space, your marker needs to be removed after 48 hours: not the same thing at all. http://www.cityofboston.gov/snow/parking/

    Feb 22, 2010 at 8:57 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #99   Katie

    What magical land is this where you get to reserve parking spot for yourself merely through the act of clearing them out? Unless you pay for them either by renting or owning the spots… I can’t see the logic.

    Feb 22, 2010 at 10:58 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #99.1   cat

      We locals call it Boston.

      Feb 28, 2010 at 8:40 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #100   Buffy

    Team Parkers. You can’t own a parking space on the street. If you have having to shovel snow so much and not having your own spot, move or make a driveway or garage to park your car in. I don’t move somewhere that does not have adequate parking for my family in the first place. It is very entitled to think you can reserve a spot indefinitely on the street which is open to everyone. I think parking chairs are stupid and while I might respect them just because I don’t want to get into a fight with people, I don’t think it is right. At the very least they could leave a note letting you know when they plan to be back on their parking chair so you will know if parking there for a short while might be okay. These assholes go out of town or to work for eight hours a day and expect no one to touch their spot that whole time. That is absurd.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 5:58 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #101   Bossy

    I live in Philadelphia and parking is definitely a commodity. However, I’ve shoveled my car out of snow and when I come back and find the spot still open, I consider it luck. I’m not entitled to a spot on the street…it is NOT my driveway even if it’s perfectly in front of my building. When I need to park again, I dig out a spot. That’s just how it is, the street belongs to no one. However, I wouldn’t park in a spot with a “chair”. Not because I think they deserve their spot for digging so much (they dug to get the car out, not to have a spot, c’mon) but because those people are crazy and I don’t want to risk coming back to a keyed car or a broken window or anything of the sort. Although I don’t want to enable them, I’d rather have my car be intact.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 8:38 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #101.1   splint chesthair

      But wouldn’t it be nice to know that if when you came back you had your parking spot and it wasn’t luck but respect from your neighbors which left it there for you? When I lived in an apartment, it was nice to know that my neighbors respected this fact and no one had to worry about digging out another spot in the parking lot.

      I will concede that you can guess I don’t live in Philly but a smaller and much more rural area. It’s possible this attitude isn’t possible in bigger cities.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 8:51 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #102   splint chesthair

    I live in a small town that follows the “chairs mark my space” rule. I have a driveway now so it’s not my issue but I never really thought much of it. I always just figured if someone dug out the space, others would be respectful enough to not take it. I never saw it as people asserting rights, just reminding people to be respectful.

    I will say that when I was a kid, I’d make a king’s ransom shoveling out parked-in cars. I also carried a spray bottle of red food coloring to mark the spaces with the last names of the person that paid me. Worked like a charm.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 8:48 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #103   Michael

    You know what sucks? Street parking. Whether you have to shovel or not. You’re going to get dinged. You’re going to have to dig yourself out, and sometimes in. People are going to take your spot, and you can’t do anything about it, except maybe go postal and make yourself a bigger problem than street parking. It’s just one of those sucky parts of life.

    Now, if municipalities actually gave a damn, they might consider building more realistic solutions to the *parking* problem, rather than spending all that money on highway widening and reconstruction.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 9:49 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #104   TM

    Not sure what the majority is, but I don’t subscribe to the “i shoveled it, I own it” mentality. I actually complained to our management company about it.
    I actually knocked over a “reserved” sign with my car last week. It felt so good.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 10:56 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #105   Joe

    I understand being mad when you shovel out a space and someone else takes it. But Amy from DC said she has the “right” to park there upon her return. I’m not sure that’s actually written in the law books of DC. Others in the comments have said they have a right to park in front of their houses. Well, it is a public street which means the public may park there if there is space available. There is no law saying you are the only one allowed to park in front of your own house. It’s nice to be able to do so, and would be nice if others respected this. But there’s really nothing you can do about it. If Ineeded a space and moved a chair to park so I could get home, I would set up my video camera to watch my car in case someone wants to get revenge and damage my car. See what the judge says about who is right and who is wrong.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 10:59 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #105.1   anglophile bang

      I would love to hear Judge Judy try that case. :P

      Feb 23, 2010 at 12:31 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #106   Liz

    Admittedly, I am a recent Atlanta transplant to the DC area, so for me, Snowmageddon 2k10 was shocking.

    For everyone that is hating on us for not “dealing with it” properly… the actual DC area is TINY. Like, 6 miles across. With the number of buildings (businesses, homes, schools, even bus stops, etc) there are only so many places to put the snow. More realistically, nowhere. That’s why this “measly” 3 feet of snow has presented such issues.

    ANYWAY, in my short time here I have already developed a solid opinion about this specific issue:

    1) If you shovel yourself out, go you! But… what on earth makes you think that spot is going to be there when you get back? Clearly if someone else (specifically a neighbor) is out driving on the road, and parks in your spot when they came back, there’s a mystery spot somewhere else along your street. Just like any other day, find A spot to park in, not YOUR spot.

    2) If you reserve your spot with a household item of any sort, you are an asshat looking to lose some furniture. Plain and simple. I know people that specifically look for furniture on the side of the road at times like these, and replace it with a note that says “Buy it back on CraigsList.”

    3) If you write a PAN on someone’s car citing the placement of your chair, you are an infant. If the chair is gone, who’s to say that someone ELSE didn’t move/steal your chair/table/etc earlier in the day? Who’s to say that the person who parked in your spot isn’t on crutches? Who’s to say that person didn’t run out of gas and have to push their car out of the street, into an open spot? Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet can be fighting some sort of battle. Also, if you think of things this way, you will feel BETTER about yourself, not frustrated at the snowtuation.

    At least, that’s how I look at it.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 12:10 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #106.1   cat

      You obviously don’t know shit about snow. Come to Boston, we’ll teach you.

      Feb 28, 2010 at 8:39 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #107   Ryan

    Oh man, the best thing to do in these situations is take the free chair, and then park somewhere else. You get some hilarious misanthrope flipping out on the next person to drive by the now empty spot and park there. And said misanthrope is down a chair (or whatever other stupidity they can think of to claim fivesies, or whatever the crap you fools call it).

    Feb 23, 2010 at 12:35 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #107.1   joe

      Love it.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 1:39 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #108   splint chesthair

    The best solution is to bury a spike strip in the snow in the spot you shoveled. Just some hard rubber with nails driven threw and and then covered with snow. One flat is terrible, two is a disaster.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 12:42 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #109   abby

    being from phila and living near a hospital where parking is a problem in all weather conditions, these note writers are totally justified. we had record snow fall here, and after spending HOURS digging out a spot in five feet of snow (the nearly 50″ that snowed, plus the dirty ice the plows (IF your road was plowed) pushed on top means that spot is mine. im not digging out the entire street just bc my neighbor is “too cold to dig out a spot” for himself or bc someone wants to visit aunt nancy in the hospital across the street when there is a parking garage for hospital visitors. and if you park in someones spot that is marked with a chair in my area? expect something – slashed tires, broken windshield, etc.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 1:18 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #109.1   snatchbeast

      and expect a kick in the twat and a bill for new tires when I find who slashed my tires

      Feb 23, 2010 at 1:51 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #110   omgwtfbbq

    so it’s definitely illegal in DC to put your random shit (old chairs, other furniture, trash bins) on the street to “reserve” spaces. It becomes an issue when you need to visit an area you don’t live in, and even though everyone has their cars at work with then for the next 8 HOURS their trash cans are neatly lined up along the entire block. But I will DEFINITELY not park in one of those spots for fear of having my windshield broken. I will however, steal their furniture and set their trash cans on fire.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 4:06 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #111   bibberly

    Yet another great reason to live in Florida. My family gives me crap about living here, but you don’t see me digging out my car to go to work. (And on the off chance that we do get snow way down here, you’d better believe that everything will be shut down and I won’t have to go anywhere anyhow.)

    Feb 23, 2010 at 4:11 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #112   Ti

    Snow plows push the snow out of the road ONTO cars. Hence a good chunk of the problem. Thanks for playing, though.

    Well, you’re obviously doing something wrong, because we in Colorado get 3-10 times as much snow as the East coast, and we don’t have these absurd parking squabbles.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 4:21 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #112.1   Liechter

      Ti, no you don’t–there is not enough humidity in the air in Colorado to get nearly as much snow in one event as we can get here in the East Coast.
      In Colorado it may snow more frequently, but the snow flakes are much smaller and it doesn’t accumulate as quickly as it can here.

      Feb 23, 2010 at 5:41 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #113   Cali girl

    Oh good Lord. If you choose to live in a place where it friggin snows, then don’t be a baby about it. It snowed. Boohoo. You knew it would around this time of year. Don’t act surprised. Find another parking, and walk.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 9:06 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #114   abs

    I ask where would you need to go with all that snow? We knew snow was coming so we planned ahead and went grocery shopping so we didnt have to worry about digging out our cars. In st paul finders keepers.

    Feb 23, 2010 at 10:28 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #114.1   Le Fabe

      maybe go to work?

      Feb 24, 2010 at 11:31 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #115   sassfactory

    LOLOL – of course Boston produces the most belligerent note of all.

    Feb 24, 2010 at 12:43 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #116   dee

    If you shovel out a spot, it does NOT mean it is yours. You do not own that spot.. it is for the public.

    It is ridiculous people write notes. New Yorkers will obviously move chairs, garbage cans, etc because we know that shoveling out a spot and saving it.. is just selfish. It does not mean that we are better than you.

    Shoveling out a spot is not that big of a deal people.. stop complaining.

    PS. Yankees do not suck… they won the world series.

    Feb 24, 2010 at 7:48 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #117   Sue

    Wow. I think everyone complaining about snow parking must be incredibly blessed. Obviously, if this is the largest current issue in your life, you all must have so very much to be grateful for. Have your blessings become so overlooked that the inconvenience of snow would allow you to become so angry? Make a gratitude list. Realize how blessed you are. Chill.

    Feb 24, 2010 at 6:11 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #117.1   park rose bang

      I was chilled, and then some more. Man, it was hell holding the pen, but I managed. The person who took my spot/ thought they could save a spot, well, I iced them, so they’re chilling too! The note was just for others. Thanks for the advice, Sue, always a good idea to put your problems on ice until you can dig a deeper hole for yourself :)

      Feb 24, 2010 at 6:31 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #117.2   anglophile bang

      Do you live in San Diego, Sue?

      Feb 24, 2010 at 6:50 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #117.3   Sue

      Park rose: I seriously have no clue as to what you are trying to convey.
      Anglphile: no I live in DC. I just have larger issues in my life to concentrate on than parking. And, unless my child or myself is dying of cancer, and I have a roof over my head, and at least a peanut butter sandwhich to eat, then I am pretty blessed and don’t get stressed over minor inconveniences of life. Life is too short, be happy, smile, and do the next right thing. It’s all good after that.

      Feb 25, 2010 at 11:28 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #117.4   Vintage_K bang

      Sue: happy happy joy joy! seriously though, stfu. :)

      Feb 25, 2010 at 11:44 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #117.5   anglophile bang

      How do you know I’m not dying of cancer? Maybe lashing out against the snow and parking issue is the only way to vocalize some other, much huger anxiety. Maybe I just lost my job. Maybe I just got told I can’t ever have children. Maybe I just lost my family in a fire.

      Telling a bunch of people you know nothing about to be happy and count their blessings is a bad, bad idea.

      Feb 25, 2010 at 12:25 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #117.6   Sue

      Vintage K. Live in anger, it’s your choice.

      Anglophile, No matter what your life circumstances, everyone has something for which to be grateful. You too have NO idea what my life is like, or what I am currently dealing with. I choose to live in joy. I choose to live in peace. I don’t sweat over stolen parking spaces. I find it interesting that it would anger anyone that I am not angry. Suggesting to anyone to count their blessings is never a bad idea. Today I’m breathing. That is a blessing.

      Feb 25, 2010 at 7:38 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #117.7   anglophile bang

      Um, no, I don’t have any idea what your life is like.

      That’s why I’m not going around telling you to stop moaning about parking.

      I’m not angry that you’re not angry. I’m not really angry at all. Perhaps a little irritated. Because you are assuming your way of living life is the best, and the underlying arrogance that none of the rest of us have ever thought to “count our blessings” or “choose to live in joy”. You read these comments and you decided what was wrong with the commenters and you thought you’d enlighten us. That’s what’s irritating me.

      Guess what, Sue? This is a humor blog. We are making jokes. Maybe you should try it some time.

      Feb 26, 2010 at 7:50 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #117.8   park rose bang

      I think ‘glo has some very good points, Sue.
      Additionally, I find it hard to believe that on a humour blog you don’t get any connections between chill (which you urged us to do) and ice, and the various wordplay that ice and chill can have. I mean, not everyone gets my comments, that is fine, often they’re not that funny (though I do try!) but this time, I didn’t think connecting the dots was rocket science, particularly after reading all the comments, which you must have done to be able to form a balanced opinion and to get the general feel of the blog. But maybe the very literal are the fall-out from or the result of co-lateral damage? You sure can’t snow them, anyway.

      Feb 26, 2010 at 8:04 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #117.9   Sue

      Anglophile, sometimes enlightenment comes with irritation.
      Park rose, oh I got the word play, however the word play made the conveyance of your ideas very muddled.

      Feb 26, 2010 at 10:29 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #117.10   anglophile bang

      You know what, Sue? You are absolutely right! As God is my witness, I will never complain, cavil, moan, groan, whinge, whine, gripe, grouse, grumble, bitch, bewail, or lament again.

      I have seen the light.

      I might still snark some, though.

      Feb 27, 2010 at 7:23 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #118   Le Fabe

    OK, so I’m a few days late to the party, but I wanted to share too. I live in Capitol Hill and I actually had to work on every single day of the 3 snow storms we had this winter. I also don’t work on the Hill, so I had to drive to stupid Silver Spring. Everyone else around here works for the government and had days off. So naturally, no one digs out their cars for days, some neighbors didn’t dig them out at all and just left them there for 2 weeks until it all melted this week. Anyway, I dug my car out, which was parked in front of my house and I went to work. I come home from work at 2:30am and of course, some twat’s in “my” space. I’m annoyed but understand that it’s a public spot. I drive around for 30 minutes and find a spot that I have to spend 30 minutes digging out so I can park. Next day, same shit. This time though, I spot a “reserved” spot at 2:30am. So I gleefully toss the fucking chair into the snow bank and park my car. Thanks, stranger. In the morning, some dickhead is parked in such a way as to block me in (because of course the person didn’t bother to completely dig it out, just enough so they could pull out). Since they were technically in an illegal spot, I called 311 and got their stupid fucking car towed. It took less than 30 minutes. No P-A notes exchanged, just a couple of hostile acts…

    Feb 24, 2010 at 11:28 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #119   lou

    I’m sorry but this is a bad tradition. If you dig out the space and go to work, this spot is supposed to just sit vacant for nine hours while probably a dozen people are supposed to just find a non reserved spot. If you continue this tradition at the very least the person taking the spot should display there cell number so they can borrow the spot and if you return give it to you, given to reason time of night. How do you claim ownership to to a communal spot that you vacate for nine hours. If your so pissed shovel them in, then turn the hose and freeze their car in a spot. If being anti social is your thing.

    Feb 25, 2010 at 10:13 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #120   Vintage_K bang

    This thread is like a broken record.

    Feb 25, 2010 at 11:42 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #121   Billco

    Canadian here. We have no rules about shoveling, and with 3 hours we could shovel the whole street block. We get at least a foot of snow each month, I don’t see what the big deal is.

    Feb 25, 2010 at 1:56 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #122   Gwennie

    We lived in a very parking-scarce, non-permit neighborhood in Chicago for three years and had to park on the street. I have driven in circles for three hours trying to leave my car somewhere within a half-mile of my apartment.

    And yet, I never tried to reserve a parking spot following that stupid “tradition.” Not even the weekend we got over 20 inches. Stay in it, or kiss it goodbye. (or rent a damn spot). The street does not belong to you, it is public, shared property.

    Feb 25, 2010 at 5:09 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #123   David

    @merkin4
    Boston does not have a law giving the digger “dibs” on a spot for 48 hours. The law says this: “Any ‘spacesavers’ left in on-street parking spaces that have been shoveled out must be removed 48 hours after a snow emergency has ended.”
    Thinking that you temporarily own public space is ridiculous and nonsensical. I have to dig out my car when we have heavy snow, and I have no expectation of getting that spot back. Thankfully, everyone else in my neighborhood in Brooklyn feels the same way.

    Feb 26, 2010 at 9:33 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #124   thi_avatar

    If you are parked on a PUBLIC street, owned by the state or city, the only way you have a ‘right’ to a parking spot is if your car is currently in it. As soon as you move your vehicle you loose 100% of any ‘rights’ or ‘ownership’ to that spot. If you leave anything behind in on that PUBLIC street, you’re telling everyone else ‘this is something I don’t want anymore’.

    Feb 26, 2010 at 12:37 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #125   Jay

    I own a house in a suburb of DC. Every house on my street has enough room for three cars to park in front of it. On the side streets of every block there are enough places to easily park 10 cars (if you’re having a party). In short, there’s never a reason to park in front of any house that’s not your own or the person you’re visiting…ever. The mound of snow I created when I shoveled a space for my car was 14′ high, 12′ wide, and almost 15′ long. It took 4 hours to do it. Neighborhood children were sledding off it. If you take my spot it’s either because you are too lazy to shovel out your own spot or the person you’re visiting obviously doesn’t value you. Justify your douche baggery anyway you want but we all know what you are.

    For those of you that can shovel any amount of snow in 5 minutes…do you know how much snow weighs? If you’re claiming that you can move 10+ tons of snow in 5 minutes you’re just demonstrating that you’re not only an asshat but you’re a stupid asshat.

    Feb 26, 2010 at 1:34 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #126   Swanky

    hmm… Great Stuff!! Great notes. But I don’t blame them, I must say. I was just doing research on this subject and came across a blog, http://www.snowparking.com… where you can send in photos of the junk people put out on the streets. It’s amusing.

    Feb 26, 2010 at 11:08 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #127   cat

    Team Boston!

    Feb 28, 2010 at 8:35 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #128   Emily

    After listening to everyone talk about their cities and whether there is a right to claim a spot, I think that we need to consider a few things here. First of all I live in the suburbs and went to school in the city, my husband lived in a city for a number of years without a driveway and we also live in Massachusetts, so I feel like I have some authority on this issue.
    Shoveling is back breaking work. Snow is heavy, and when its packed in it is an endless pile that never stops. When you work hard at something for a long time no matter what it is then you have a right to claim some ownership over it. I think what most people here a griping about is when you clear a space in front of your hosue. You should be able to park near where you live.
    People in Minnesota need to remember that not everyone lives there and that there are different snow totals and yearly expectations differ place to place. There isnt public transportation everywhere.
    If you spend time clearing out a spot then you should have a righ to it. To spend time working that hard and then to have it stolen is unacceptable. Its common courtesy to not steal someone else’s work not matter the type of work.
    And the note from Boston had such a classy tone because, frankly, small city streets terrible plow jobs, and no place to put snow can get people aggravated.

    Feb 28, 2010 at 11:23 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #129   funkychick17

    I love the city, but when it snows I am so glad I live in the suburbs with a driveway and garage! When I did live in the city, I didn’t own a car. I took the bus. Once when it had snowed 18″ and someone on my mom’s street shoveled out his space and then went out, my brother parked there late at night. The shoveler knocked on my mom’s door at 2 in the morning to ask the owner of the car (my brother) to move it out of the spot that he had shoveled. I don’t know how many other doors he had knocked on at 2 am before he got the right one! I can agree somewhat with the people who shovel the spots, but at the same time it is a public street without reserved spaces and this is the price you pay to live in the city with no private parking.

    Mar 1, 2010 at 8:54 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #129.1   Claire

      I live on the other side of the world with no snow, but I do agree with you. I don’t have a car, either, which may explain it.

      Mar 9, 2010 at 7:00 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #130   undrline

    huh. never knew that. Moved to DC from CA, and lived there for five years, owning a car for two. It snowed every winter I was there. I never thought about people having to shovel out spots. Every parking spot was taken in the neighborhood (didn’t matter which neighborhood), and people dug their car out to leave. All those hollowed-out spots were there when we’d get back. I guess it’s because it never snowed enough in the meantime to have to be re-shoveled. If I had to come across a note trying to explain the issue to me – being clueless otherwise – I think I’d prefer the table one.

    Mar 1, 2010 at 6:35 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #131   Travis

    Heh. I live in Georgia. If it snows, I stay home and play Xbox.

    Mar 2, 2010 at 4:27 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #132   Toya

    After reading those notes, I’m so happy to live in Florida where the only time fights break out over parking spaces are during the week leading up to Christmas. If I did live in a place that snowed and reserving parking spots during the winter were the norm, I’d become agoraphobic from December to March.

    Mar 2, 2010 at 8:39 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #133   LS

    I had no idea shoveling was a big issue. I actually thought that the cities took care of things like that with salt or something. Living in the South, we just stay in with hot chocolate when it snows. Everything is shut down and we get a day or two off. It’s pretty awesome.

    Mar 7, 2010 at 2:38 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #134   Claire

    this is the only time passive aggressive notes are okay….I once spent 4 hours shoveling my car out of my spot (I live in a townhouse development) got home from work at 2 in the morning, my space was filled by another car, and there were no other spaces that had been shoveled. I was exhausted, parked illegally near an empty curb,planning to move early in the morning and had to pay 80 dollars for a parking ticket, all because some asshole didn’t feel like shoveling snow. fuck that.

    Mar 9, 2010 at 1:22 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #135   Steve K

    I’ve lived in Chicago my whole life, and still am amazed by the number of a**holes who think because they spent 15 minutes (or 4 hours, but if your spending 4hours digging out a 8ft by 6ft spot you’ve got other problems) digging out a spot, are now entitled to that spot on a public street for the next 3 months. I understand it blows, and I also get annoyed that a spot I dug out is gone. But it’s not F*cking “yours”. It’s a god damned public street, maybe your entitled for that evening, or even the next, but these dipsh*t’s that think they can just keep a broom on the street all winter are out of their mind’s. You know what’s even more annoying than “your” spot being taken, is driving down a public street and there not being a single spot available, because 20 people think they are entitled to a public street’s spot, 24hrs a day 7 days a week.

    Mar 10, 2010 at 2:21 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #136   matt

    someone’s car was lit on fire last year for taking a spot in chicago, so i guess consider yourselves lucky you only got a note?

    Mar 11, 2010 at 11:48 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #137   jim

    I grew up in Boston and it was always like this. I never left a chair or trash bin because I always thought it was a fucking stupid thing to save a spot! fuck that shit, you can’t save a fucking spot all day while you’re at work because mother nature decided to dump snow on your sorry ass.

    Mar 12, 2010 at 4:44 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #138   kc

    *shrug.*

    You poke it, you own it.

    Mar 14, 2010 at 8:49 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #139   Dan

    living in San Diego FTW!!

    Mar 15, 2010 at 7:01 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
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