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March 30th, 2010 · 103 comments

More proof that — no matter how in the right you are — writing a note about it makes you kind of an airhose, too. Especially if you’re using Comic Sans.

From Elizabeth at CMU in Pittsburgh:

And from Drake at BYU in Provo, Utah:

extra credit: The man behind Comic Sans [wsj.com]

FILED UNDER: college life · Comic Sans Alert · door-slamming · most popular notes of 2010 · rebuttals · Utah

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#1 Fuschia Grown

My self-righteousness doesn’t rip others from the warm and–dare I say it?–good-bits-tingling embrace of sweet beautiful sleep. Team Self-Righteous Anti-Slammer.

Also, Comic Sans is an aberration not to be borne.

Mar 30, 2010 at 3:30 pm rating: 39

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- #1.1 pony girl
  
  I am torn. On the one hand, I HATE door-slammers.
  On the other hand, I LOVE comic-sans.
  
  oh well.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 9:41 pm rating: 15
- #1.2 park rose
  
  I love it too. So I shall join pony girl in her violated state. I hear she’s worth it
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 9:52 pm rating: 6
- #1.3 Joe
  
  I completely agree with the hatred on comic sans, but why does the dissenter model his handwriting after it then?
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 7:35 am rating: 6
- #1.4 maas
  
  While I find it difficult to develop strong feelings about font, I do think Comic Sans is very useful for reminding your readers not to take you too seriously.
  
  One day all other fonts will be crushed into the blood stained soil by the every advancing formations of the imperialistic Times New Roman. Aut Caesar aut nihil!
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 3:50 pm rating: 14
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#2 WestCoast

Honestly, with the extent to which Comic Sans is overused at my work, I’d rather see Papyrus.

But, given an option, I’d rather they both be nuked from orbit.

Mar 30, 2010 at 3:32 pm rating: 11

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- #2.1 Sean Jungian
  
  It’s the only way to be sure!
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 3:46 pm rating: 11
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#3 tallsarah

airhose? I’m having trouble placing this? Clearly it’s not referring to scuba diving…or is it?

Mar 30, 2010 at 3:35 pm rating: 1

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- #3.1 Sean Jungian
  
  probably an air compressor
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 3:47 pm rating: 0
- #3.2 park rose
  
  or a p*o*r*n* shop.
  
  My last comment got eaten, so I think I need to slip some asterisks into the sleaze there.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 9:55 pm rating: 2
- #3.3 Meesh
  
  “Slip some asterisks into the sleaze,” huh? Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 8:14 am rating: 13
- #3.4 ISpy
  
  Wait. “Douchecanoe” is doesn’t get eaten but p*o*r*n does? This is an outrage. Or maybe, that makes some sense…
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 11:52 am rating: 1
- #3.5 Clumber
  
  I find it rather refreshing. TEAM Don’t Eat the Douchecanoe!
  
  Apr 6, 2010 at 12:32 pm rating: 1
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#4 Mo®

Please do not lean on the airhose. The meatwhistle requires a uninterrupted supply to operate the door slammer.

Mar 30, 2010 at 3:45 pm rating: 34

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- #4.1 stuffin'
  
  Can’t you just use your dickbeaters to slam the door?
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 10:02 pm rating: 5
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#5 team no-slam

I live in a very nice condo building. And, it drives me crazy that people think it is ok to let their door slam behind them instead of shutting it nicely. Seriously do you just think you are the only person that lives in the building?

Mar 30, 2010 at 3:48 pm rating: 9

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- #5.1 claw71
  
  Maybe that condo building isn’t as nice as you think.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 3:54 pm rating: 24
- #5.2 Peasant
  
  I’m with team nobody. No, people shouldn’t slam doors, but yes, people who live in apartments, condos, dorms, etc., should expect that people will.
  
  If noise bothers you, move out or make an effort to block out the sound.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:18 pm rating: 7
- #5.3 aloria
  
  All the exterior/hall doors in every apartment and condo building I’ve lived in have those little pneumatic hinges that slow the backswing of the door– ensuring that it shuts, but also making it near impossible to slam. I think they’re actually required in my state for fire code reasons. So, like claw71 said, maybe your condo building isn’t as nice as you think.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:28 pm rating: 9
- #5.4 claw71
  
  You can block out the sound with Foghat.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:28 pm rating: 18
- #5.5 Languagegeek
  
  Foghat FTW!!!
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:33 pm rating: 2
- #5.6 Fuschia Grown
  
  Or tinfoil hat.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:33 pm rating: 4
- #5.7 Gandalf
  
  Or a baseball bat.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:49 pm rating: 1
- #5.8 Sirius¤
  
  Or by irresponsibly bearing children.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:50 pm rating: 42
- #5.9 Yes
  
  My door slams loudly, so I always make sure to catch it and let it close slowly, even if I’m carrying grocery bags.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 6:56 pm rating: 3
- #5.10 jadefirefly
  
  The people in my building:
  
  – Yell down the stairwell to each other at all hours, day or night;
  – Often sit out on the fire escape/back stairwell and sing a capella / rap until 11:30 pm;
  – Press every goddamn buzzer on the front door until someone lets them into the building when they’ve forgotten their key;
  
  but they don’t slam doors. And for this I am eternally grateful.
  
  Then again, you actually have to -try- to slam a door in my building. They don’t have fancy hinges, but they don’t have any sort of self-closing spring, either. You’d have to deliberately push that sucker closed. So maybe they just can’t be bothered to expend the energy for door-slamming.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 9:12 pm rating: 4
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#6 Vic

IMO, Tahoma FTW!

Mar 30, 2010 at 3:51 pm rating: 2

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- #6.1 anglophile
  
  I’ll back Georgia in a death match.
  
  I already have Kerry on my side.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:28 pm rating: 6
- #6.2 claw71
  
  I like Trebuchet. It’s great for when I need to sling some copy my editor’s way.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:33 pm rating: 11
- #6.3 park rose
  
  Arial. Understated. Easy to read. No, I am not a cool kid.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 9:57 pm rating: 4
- #6.4 a-Arialist
  
  Man, I loathe Arial. Granted it’s not as bad as comic sans or papyrus, but it is offensively boring. Our company has just switched to Arial for all communications and it’s ugly.
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 2:43 am rating: 8
- #6.5 anglophile
  
  Um, yeah, sorry rose, but Arial is loathsome. We are font-incompatible.
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 5:40 am rating: 4
- #6.6 oi
  
  yeah when I said Martha Stewart I had Arial in mind. Georgia and Tahoma are cool. TNR, meh!
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 7:29 am rating: 1
- #6.7 Joe
  
  Century Gothic will save you 30% on ink costs.
  (Probably because you would rather write things by hand than look at that ugly mess of a font.)
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 7:42 am rating: 1
- #6.8 Canthz_B
  
  Rats! Thanks to ‘Glo and oi Ray Charles will be singing Georgia On My Mind in my head all fracking day!!
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 8:48 am rating: 1
- #6.9 anglophile
  
  Better than Air Supply, which is what’s going through mine courtesy of Jonathan @ 14.1.
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 10:14 am rating: 1
- #6.10 park rose
  
  . . . and I like the submitters, glo *sigh*.
  
  Actually, Arial just doesn’t invite arguments. It’s so innocuous that no-one thinks to comment.
  
  I don’t think Martha Stewart would use it. Any frilly-laced jail bird living a doublelife surely uses something a bit more racy, or, you know, masquerading as frilly, but in actual fact a saint in the kitchen, a whore in the bedroom. Which font would that be?
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 10:56 am rating: 4
- #6.11 Mo®
  
  ♫I ‘m all out of air, you leaned on the airhose
  I know you’d know if you saw me turn blue
  I ‘m all out of air, I am dead because of you
  It is too late to say that you were wrong♬
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 11:11 am rating: 3
- #6.12 CrimsonSky
  
  Verdana, people! It’s one of my all-time favorites. Slightly more stylish than Arial, yet not as over-the-top as Comic Sans.
  
  Times New Roman is one of my least favorites. Somehow, it just seems to try too hard.
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 5:09 pm rating: 5
- #6.13 Clumber
  
  Calibri.
  
  Don’t have a clue what it means or invokes. Expecting to be educated in 4..3..2….
  
  Apr 6, 2010 at 12:34 pm rating: 0
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#7 claw71

Does the “self-righteous” detective understand irony?

Mar 30, 2010 at 3:52 pm rating: 4

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#8 claw71

I wouldn’t be too quick to judge the person who used comic sans in the ‘airhose’ note. It’s BYU, people, you find fun anywhere you can.

Mar 30, 2010 at 4:01 pm rating: 18

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- #8.1 QuarterRoy00
  
  Didn’t Michael Jackson go to college at Bringem’ Young University?
  
  Or is it too soon?
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:11 pm rating: 18
- #8.2 Peasant
  
  Depending on the audience, using Comic Sans might be perfectly appropriately. Some people probably don’t understand any language other than text-speak unless it is written in Comic Sans. Certainly that applies to people who cannot avoid leaning on the airhose of their own accord.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:23 pm rating: 4
- #8.3 anglophile
  
  I’m pretty sure there was no post-mortem statute of limitations on MJ jokes, QuarterRoy.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:30 pm rating: 5
- #8.4 claw71
  
  Nope. No problem with the Jacko jokes. However, the play on BYU’s moniker wasn’t executed well. Besides, we all know that BYU is a Mormon school and Mormons like to marry early and often…MJ wasn’t the marrying kind.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:38 pm rating: 1
- #8.5 shwonline
  
  Sure, Comic Sans is appropriate for college…. CLOWN college. (rim shot)
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 5:43 pm rating: 10
- #8.6 Canthz_B
  
  Clown college would explain the air hose.
  Clowns-in-training hate it when their calliope music is interrupted…throws their rhythm off, it does.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 8:09 pm rating: 8
- #8.7 TheOldSchool
  
  Why is it that a quality clown school education is rarely taken seriously?
  
  http://www.clown-school.com/
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 10:08 pm rating: 1
- #8.8 park rose
  
  Just like Arial, they are underrated, if not understated, unfairly so in my opinion. You know what they say; the bigger the clown shoes, the bigger the air-hose, even though it may be on the unwieldy side.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 10:13 pm rating: 6
- #8.9 TheOldSchool
  
  I’m so thankful that both my shoes and my hose are wieldy.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 11:17 pm rating: 3
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#9 Kate

Do airhoses usually speak of themselves in third person?

Mar 30, 2010 at 4:08 pm rating: 2

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- #9.1 TheOldSchool
  
  It depends on whether they’re sucking or blowing.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 10:06 pm rating: 10
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#10 QuarterRoy00

Instead of leaning on the airhose, try putting it in your pants. It’s what all the good Mormans are doing.

Mar 30, 2010 at 4:10 pm rating: 3

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- #10.1 Canthz_B
  
  You should see what the morwomen are up to!
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 8:01 pm rating: 7
- #10.2 Clumber
  
  dammit CB… once AGAIN you almost got me caught. Prickboss thinks I am slaving away on a boring stupid pointless task that I would certainly not be spewing sudden guffaws from.
  
  yer gonna’ get some other stupid thing delegated at me, dammit.
  
  Apr 6, 2010 at 12:37 pm rating: 1
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#11 anglophile

OK, I’ll confess. I once used Papyrus to make a cocktail recipe book as a wedding present to go along with a Pottery Barn martini set. It was the Nineties. I didn’t know what Papyrus would become. It was all so new and exciting. Forgive me.

Mar 30, 2010 at 4:35 pm rating: 23

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- #11.1 claw71
  
  Hey, we’ve all experimented with illicit fonts, glo. No judgment here. At least not when it comes to font abuse.
  
  The Pottery Barn issue is a little more than we can handle, though. TMI, my dear.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:42 pm rating: 23
- #11.2 Sirius¤
  
  I experimented with Billabong in college. At the time, it seemed justified.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:55 pm rating: 18
- #11.3 anglophile
  
  You just don’t understand the pressure I’ve been living under knowing I spent $24.50 on a set of four sterling-silver swizzle sticks with olives on the end. I knew it would disgust you, claw, but I couldn’t keep it hidden any longer.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 4:55 pm rating: 3
- #11.4 TheOldSchool
  
  I think the beauty of disgust is that it’s fleeting.
  
  It’s pain that dilly-dallies.
  
  Glo, you know that with your revelation, you’ve done far more than disgust Claw — you’ve wounded all of us.
  
  Deeply so.
  
  I’m going to you a favor and suggest to my fellow victims that we avoid turning this into a Union Carbide/Bhopal-style scrum of competing lawyers. Instead, I’ll be agitating for everyone to stay calm and focused on the big picture: filing a massive class action lawsuit against you.
  
  (Your own legal expenses will be lessened as a result of not having to fend off multiple suits simultaneously. You can thank me later, but NOT with a gift.)
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 10:41 pm rating: 4
- #11.5 anglophile
  
  Don’t worry, TOS. I’ve since moved on to IKEA. I’m sure that makes you feel better, right?
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 5:43 am rating: 2
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#12 oi

I am truly disgusted by the show of fontism here. Just because CS and papyrus like to have fun and refuse to sit with those snobby fonts who pride themselves for being as uptight and boring as Martha Stuart*, you guys would go as far as nuking them to orbit? Shame on you, you pretentious fucolks
*I have no idea who she is, the name sounds like of a really old lady.

Mar 30, 2010 at 5:19 pm rating: 25

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- #12.1 Sirius¤
  
  Sigh — oi, I love u sometimes!!!!!
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 5:36 pm rating: 4
- #12.2 oi
  
  i luvs u 2 Sirius!
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 5:49 pm rating: 0
- #12.3 Jonathan
  
  If I wanted rambunctious children telling me lame knock-knock jokes between tormenting the cat and/or asking where the potty is, I could totally hook that up with no typefaces involved except Times New Roman and maybe Impact for the lolcats.
  
  Or if I wanted some white dude to speak pidgin English in a pseudo-Asian accent, I could totally hook that up too with Times New Roman only.
  
  That I totally DON’T hook any of that up should be taken as a sign that I’m better than people who use either accused typeface. Yo Claw, little help with these fucktrophies?
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 5:52 pm rating: 2
- #12.4 oi
  
  hmm the way you have started this seeming debate, I will just go ahead and say what is going to be it’s inevitable end.
  fuck you bitch!
  
  and for the heck of it, I will post this link.
  may not be respectable source like wikipedia but…
  
  http://www.thedesigncubicle.com/2008/12/why-exactly-designers-hate-comic-sans/
  
  Admit some of you guys hate comic sans because of peer pressure. some might genuinely hate it but others hate comic sans just like they flaunt their apple products. zombies are not cool man.
  mind you I am not advocating comic sans in professional or serious writing, just surprised by this irrational and universal hate.
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 7:38 am rating: 4
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#13 shwonline

Do not air out lederhosen.

Mar 30, 2010 at 5:40 pm rating: 6

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#14 Drake

I have no idea what the air hose supplies, but it runs along the wall in the Fine Arts building near the workshops where they build the sets for the drama departments, just to clarify.

Mar 30, 2010 at 5:48 pm rating: 2

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- #14.1 Jonathan
  
  I think it supplies nothing at all, out of which the stagehands make love.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 5:53 pm rating: 15
- #14.2 Mark
  
  It’s clearly used to inflate the vinyl sex dolls used and abused during cast parties. Hey, you can’t drink alcohol or caffeine, but perverted vinyl-fueled escapades are A-OK!
  
  (actually probably for pneumatic tools – nailguns and such)
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 5:53 pm rating: 7
- #14.3 Drake
  
  That’s totally possible (the nailguns and tools part—not the sex doll part), but it’s a really thin hose, only a bit thicker around than most pens—not nearly as robust as the ones that I’ve seen on air compressors.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 6:16 pm rating: 1
- #14.4 claw71
  
  Maybe it’s a cannula and when people lean on the narrow tube, some old guy in the back room fades out of consciousness.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 7:31 pm rating: 15
- #14.5 park rose
  
  Mark, it is the drama department. I think it would be more likely used to inflate the falsies.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 10:30 pm rating: 2
- #14.6 Meesh
  
  Jonathan, even the nights are better since the drama fags stopped leaning on the airhose.
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 8:34 am rating: 3
- #14.7 infanttyrone
  
  Well, rose ‘n’ Claw…it’s a tough time for the old guys in the back room…
  someone steps on the airhose, ya pass out…
  nobody steps on the airhose, falsies go blimp-wise, ya pass out…
  at least we can choose our reality as time expires…
  falsies, please !
  
  Apr 1, 2010 at 12:39 am rating: 0
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#15 claw71

Comic sans has taken such a beating over the past seven years that it’s destined to become popular with the cool kids in the next couple of years.

Mar 30, 2010 at 7:28 pm rating: 7

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- #15.1 anglophile
  
  Soon it will be the font of choice for trucker hats and “old” t-shirts.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 8:26 pm rating: 3
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#16 Kalara

I have a feeling someone is a PVP fan…

http://www.pvponline.com/2009/05/11/the-font-snob/

Mar 30, 2010 at 7:43 pm rating: 0

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- #16.1 xyzzy
  
  Could be… I think the anti-Comic Sans person must be a member of this club, though:
  http://bancomicsans.com/
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 11:54 pm rating: 0
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#17 ronx

It’s all about Wingdings! He is everyfont, struggling to communicate with imperfect tools in an imperfect world.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1823766

Mar 30, 2010 at 8:36 pm rating: 7

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#18 Silly Goose

Airhose … lean on me, when you’re not strong, and I’ll be your friend. I’ll help you carry on.

Mar 30, 2010 at 8:47 pm rating: 4

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#19 wurdnurd

Is this real life? Am I gonna stay like this? *slurping drool*

Safety Tip: Never put an air hose in your rectum – you don’t know where it’s been!

Mar 30, 2010 at 9:05 pm rating: 1

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#20 Denny DelVecchio

I just want to get on the record saying I’m generally fine with people leaning on my airhose.

Yours in Love,
Denny DelVecchio

Mar 30, 2010 at 9:30 pm rating: 2

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- #20.1 oi
  
  you suck and I am sure so does your blog.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 9:33 pm rating: 5
- #20.2 TheOldSchool
  
  You say “suck” like it’s a bad thing.
  
  Mar 30, 2010 at 10:44 pm rating: 4
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#21 Silence

At least it wasn’t Curlz. Small victories, people, small victories.

Mar 31, 2010 at 1:24 am rating: 3

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- #21.1 anglophile
  
  Or Jokerman.
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 5:44 am rating: 1
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#22 spokesy

I worked computer support at a high school for a while. I got soooo tired of seeing all the teachers posting shit in Comic Sans that every time I went to work on a computer, I would go into the system files and delete it. Problem gradually solved.

Mar 31, 2010 at 1:27 am rating: 13

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- #22.1 Party in my pants
  
  So that WAS YOU!! Teachers love Comic Sans because it is very much like the Zaner Bloser Handwriting we taught. I love Comic Sans and I don’t need a support group.
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 6:32 am rating: 2
- #22.2 park rose
  
  Students find it easy to read. Important if you’re teaching another language and want to emphasise particular points. Other fonts can be emphasised too, of course, but CS if quick, fast and easy. Teachers are busy.
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 11:02 am rating: 2
- #22.3 creamy
  
  sign this:
  http://www.creativewhirlwind.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/promise_poster.jpg
  
  Mar 31, 2010 at 7:10 pm rating: 0
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#23 GhostWriter

I’m wondering what “S R I O” stands for.
Is it really “Senior Resident Involvement Officer”? “…OFFICER“?? What authority does this “officer” possess? The door wasn’t even slammed loudly, to boot. He just hates kids staying out late at night, while he sits alone on his dormroom floor watching Baywatch DVDs (one of the many failed friend-maker suggestions offered by older brother Gary, a ‘90s alumnus).
If the Double-E’s on the floor have any ambition, they’ll secretly wire up some surround sound speakers (stuffed into his room’s registers) and entertain him with a super-loud door slam mpeg. At 4AM. High enough decibels will vibrate those annoying notes right off the wall.

Mar 31, 2010 at 9:47 am rating: 2

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#24 soandso

I once met a girl who had a tattoo that was written in papyrus font. As in permanently inked on her body. As in forever. She was proudly showing it off to everyone whilst I stared in abject horror. It looked like she shoved her foot in a ink-jet.

Mar 31, 2010 at 11:38 am rating: 5

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#25 Youji

I don’t really understand the hatred for Comic Sans. Yes, it does sometimes get used inappropriately (I would NEVER EVER write a paper in it), but that doesn’t mean people can’t use it for their personal messages or that a message is any less legit just because it’s in a font you personally dislike. I kinda feel like it’s just “cool” among computer geeks to hate Comic Sans and that baffles me.

Mar 31, 2010 at 12:35 pm rating: 5

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#26 Breaking up the party

The signs posted about the doors aren’t even in Comic Sans.

Apr 1, 2010 at 11:51 am rating: 1

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#27 Complex Flavor Profile

I’m partial to Cambria. Times New Roman makes my brain itch, and I can’t reach it.

Apr 1, 2010 at 8:39 pm rating: 2

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#28 jason

Leaving a note is not, in and of itself, self-righteous. Team Shut the Fuck Up.

Apr 2, 2010 at 1:16 pm rating: 0

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#29 Little Lovables

better than papyrus, hilarious!!

Apr 2, 2010 at 11:52 pm rating: 0

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#30 Sally

I HATE COMIC SANS. Every time I see it I cringe and a little piece of me dies.
But I’ll admit I’ve used Papyrus as the header on my resume..

Apr 6, 2010 at 9:57 pm rating: 1

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