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My parents pay $51,000 a year for this Ivory Tower, and I’m not going to leave it without a fight.

May 18th, 2010 · 134 comments

Our submitter, P, is a sophomore at a certain university in upstate New York (the one that typically ties with Penn for the Ivy League university most people forget is actually in the Ivy League).

Students are moving out of the dorms this week, P says, so facilities management locked the building’s garbage chute to prevent it from overflowing. “Instead, residents are supposed to take the trash to a dumpster that’s a couple of feet away from the building — we even have an elevator!”

But what if your sense of entitlement is like, too heavy to make it to that elevator? Hello, note war!

I pay $51,000 a year to go to this school. I'm not walking my garbage downstairs when there is a fully functioning garbage chute behind this door. It will be in the hall waiting for you :)

Don't you understand that a facilities management person is going to have to carry all of your trash outside? Do you really think they get the $51,000 'YOU' pay? It doesn't matter how entitled you think you are, no one should have to deal with your mess or pick up after you. I would be so ashamed to call someone like you a friend or acquaintance. Unbelievable.

related: At Oberlin, that $48,000 a year doesn’t include toilet paper.

extra credit: What not to wear in Ithaca [Ivygate]

FILED UNDER: college life · garbage · Ithaca · just an asshole · note wars · smiley

134 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Nicole

    While the act of leaving that second note was in itself PA, I have never read a classier or more reasonable reaction to a dickwad note. Go her!

    May 18, 2010 at 7:40 pm   rating: 93  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   zenvelo

      I guess note writer # 2 just de-friended note writer #1!

      May 18, 2010 at 8:13 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #1.2   Xenobiologista

      I wouldn’t call #2 passive-aggressive. They were honest enough to sign their name.

      May 18, 2010 at 8:35 pm   rating: 40  small thumbs up

    • #1.3   It's not a question of where he grips it!

      @1: I do find the effort that notewriter #2 put into her/his reply admirable, but I have to tip my hat to the hero who–amidst the stinking piles of refuse left by notewriter #1–was able to find the funny. (I admit it: I’m a “that’s what she said!” ho…)

      May 18, 2010 at 10:07 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

    • #1.4   Woman on the Verge bang

      The second note has a good message, but points must be deducted for the writer’s learning disability. Hello? On Earth, we write with the lines on the paper HORIZONTALLY. We use computers with spell check to prevent errors in spelling acquaintance and to add perfectly irrelevant clipart to accentuate our passive aggressive points.

      May 19, 2010 at 7:52 am   rating: 19  small thumbs up

    • #1.5   Max Time bang

      I kinda hate spell check, whodes the computer think it is? Some freaking nerd whose king of OZ???

      May 19, 2010 at 8:44 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #1.6   Mo® bang

      “That’s what she said!”

      May 19, 2010 at 10:57 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

  • #2   Canthz_B bang

    Team locked garbage chute.
    Use your fully functioning (and not all that old) legs you lazy snob.

    May 18, 2010 at 8:15 pm   rating: 52  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   clumber

      Unless lazy slob is a princess in an (ivy) tower, one might suspect that she walks right past said garbage repository on a regular basis anyway.

      Team get the fuck over yourself!

      ummm… as she said….

      May 19, 2010 at 9:06 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #2.2   anglophile bang

      To be a stickler about it, we really don’t know whether the note writer has fully functioning legs or not.

      May 20, 2010 at 8:16 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #2.3   Canthz_B bang

      Well, he/she said “not”, not “can’t”.

      Besides, I didn’t want to look like I was picking on the differently-abled! :-P

      May 20, 2010 at 8:32 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

  • #3   jfruh

    I went to this school of which you speak, about 15 years ago now, and none of our dorms had these fancy “garbage chutes.” We also didn’t pay $51K per annum, though, so I guess it’s money well spent!

    May 18, 2010 at 8:15 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   Bizootie

      One of the dorms here with trash chutes is 100+ years old.

      May 19, 2010 at 3:13 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

  • #4   scooby

    I went to this school as well and also never got to experience these garbage chutes. Garbage chute or no garbage chute, I loved every single moment of it!

    May 18, 2010 at 8:23 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   Canthz_B bang

      I didn’t go to this school, but my comments are funnier than yours. :-P

      May 19, 2010 at 1:47 am   rating: 29  small thumbs up

    • #4.2   infanttyrone

      But w/o their unfunny comments, we wouldn’t have #4.1.
      Roots ain’t always pretty, but the flowers need ‘em.

      May 19, 2010 at 9:54 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #4.3   Melissa B

      I quite like roots.

      May 19, 2010 at 11:34 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #4.4   bariayen

      If we burn the roots.. then the flowers become the standard.. with the ever apparent adaptability of the human race and the seemingly unstoppable will to excel, I do believe this will raise the bar even higher!! Then, the flowers become the “root” of the nut! What flower has nuts though? other than a hermaphrodite!! BACK ON TRACK!!

      Team Burn the Roots!!

      May 19, 2010 at 4:33 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #5   Quite Contrary

    Anyone want to take a bet if he/she really paid the $51K for school? That sounds like it might involve actual work. I’m not convinced this person is capable of working.

    PS Maybe Mom or Dad will take out the garbage for you! Just a thought!

    May 18, 2010 at 8:30 pm   rating: 42  small thumbs up

    • #5.1   Auntybron

      Most of the $51K was probably spent on “tutors” who “help” the note writer #1 write the various papers (nudge, nudge, wink, wink, If you know what I mean)

      May 18, 2010 at 10:20 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #5.2   jo's comment

      is it 51K to stay in the dorm & have some ‘facilitator’ clean up after you (or is that facilitate after you?)

      May 19, 2010 at 5:54 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #5.3   infanttyrone

      Mom + Pop ain’t takin’ out no fuckin’ garbage.
      They pay $51k for someone to handle their fuckin’ trash.

      May 19, 2010 at 9:56 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #5.4   Mama24

      I am sure mom and dad didn’t take the trash out, the maid probably did. While we are talking about mom and dad I bet they were too busy at black tie charity dinners to raise the trashy princess and a nanny did it.

      May 19, 2010 at 9:56 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #6   Xenobiologista

    Ugh. I graduated from a small liberal arts college a few years ago. It’s barely in the top 50 if that any more (not checking) but you still found this sense of entitlement among a number of students. One summer when I worked for the grounds maintenance department, this guy was bragging about how one night he got drunk and threw a newspaper vending machine off a bridge. The school made him pay for a replacement, so after that he would claim the new one was “his” vending machine. It’s not, you moron.

    As note #2 points out, the janitors are getting only a tiny sliver of that $51k. So much for the assumption that being educated makes you a better person…or smarter, for that matter. Colleges should have Accounting for their basic math requirement instead of Calculus. The average person isn’t going to use calculus anyway.

    May 18, 2010 at 8:40 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

  • #7   Rebecca

    Why does everyone assume this person isn’t pay his or her own way? I’m not saying the person isn’t a jerk, but I got through college on school loans, which it took nearly 20 years for me personally to pay off. Is that so very rare?

    May 18, 2010 at 8:51 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   G bang

      I got through college on scholarships and loans. I doubt you can GET federal student loans for $51k/yr; I think I had just about maxed it out for my $17k/yr school–with about half of that in scholarships, even. If you need more than that, I think you have to get parental contributions or parents cosigning loans.

      It could be that the princess (prince?) in note 1 up there is getting by on scholarships, but that would suggest s/he knows how to work hard for SOMEthing. Grades, achievements, or other actual effort put in in order to earn the award.

      May 18, 2010 at 9:08 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #7.2   Carly

      I’m in school now and the federal limit is $12,500 per year for students in their 3rd year and beyond. It’s a lot less for dependent students.

      Maybe she is or isn’t paying for it, I would assume mom and dad are paying for it, but jeeze…have a little respect for the little guy (the facilities management) :-)

      May 18, 2010 at 10:02 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #7.3   Mo® bang

      Whether they or mummy and duddy are paying for their Cornell education it doesn’t matter. This Spanky Spankermann needs to take care of their own shit. Surprised they didn’t use the royal “we” in their note of whine.

      May 19, 2010 at 11:04 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #7.4   Scribbles the Monkey bang

      My mumsy and daddums paid for my trash can of a school at USD 1200,-/semester. I worked as a waiter at USD 2,13/hr, so all I could afford were my USD 500,-/semester textbookes.

      I didn’t feel entitled to much except for a dismal future. I resent students who go to expensive schools for their celebrity-style social lives and fulfilling academic achievements.

      May 19, 2010 at 11:31 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #7.5   Mama24

      I am pretty sure 51K is a little more than student loans are going to cover. I am also sure that while going to school this person does not have a job that pays 51K a year to pay the tuition. They won’t even walk their trash to the dumpster, why wouldn’t we assume someone else is footing the bill.

      May 19, 2010 at 10:00 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #8   farcical aquatic ceremony

    oooh! I hope they switch from service line to self-serve in the cafeteria so that he throws an “I pay $51,000 a year for this, I’m not going to FEED MYSELF!!”-tantrum and proceeds to starve to death!

    May 18, 2010 at 8:53 pm   rating: 60  small thumbs up

    • #8.1   Mo® bang

      “What, I have to wipe my own buttocks!!!”

      May 19, 2010 at 11:05 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #8.2   HandyMarigolds

      “Chew my own food?”

      May 19, 2010 at 12:09 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #8.3   tinkerbell2

      Mo, you have to wipe your buttocks? Faecal mist?

      May 20, 2010 at 6:42 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #9   Escape Goat

    51,000-mutha-fuckin’ dollars?
    Where my slaves at?

    May 18, 2010 at 9:11 pm   rating: 28  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   bean

      right?! I mean if you got 51k for college, surely you got $50 to hire someone to take it to the curb for you …and clean your room …and wipe your ass; cuz you’re obviously too good to use the legs you were given for anything other than to strut your stuff in the gym you pay $85 for a month + personal trainer.

      May 18, 2010 at 9:15 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #9.2   HandyMarigolds

      No kidding! I mean, if you can afford a tuition tab like that, why are you slumming it up in the residence halls in the first place?

      May 19, 2010 at 10:53 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #9.3   Dee

      Hell, university is expensive in the US!!

      I paid around $1500 a year for my education, and I went to the best university in my country.

      May 19, 2010 at 3:39 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #10   Patrick1980SC

    Let’s address the real issue here. I can forgive childish entitlement but not the misspelling of acquaintance. Team Anal Copy Editor.

    May 18, 2010 at 9:46 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   JK

      I know!!! She was doing so well until acquaintance though…

      May 19, 2010 at 9:25 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #10.2   Maas

      “Acquaintance” really should have been left out. I, too, was following up to that point, but I can’t empathize with shame felt at simply being aware of the existence of this person.

      May 19, 2010 at 6:02 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

  • #11   Ali

    I’m just glad that there are sane people there to call out this douche. I really doubt that she gives a damn (otherwise, she wouldn’t have been bitch enough to write the note in the first place). But, in my special, perfect world she is now dying of embarrassment.

    May 18, 2010 at 10:10 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

  • #12   Jen

    If note writer #1 did anything other than have rich parents in order to earn the $51 000 required per year to go to this school, I will fly to New York and EAT their garbage.

    May 18, 2010 at 10:17 pm   rating: 29  small thumbs up

  • #13   loren

    no one gives a shit what school you assholes went to.

    May 18, 2010 at 10:29 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

  • #14   Engineer

    Why don’t they just connect the garbage chute to the dumpster? Seems like a better-designed garbage chute would solve everyone’s problems.

    May 18, 2010 at 10:36 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   Scribbles the Monkey bang

      My friend, that is why you are an engineer.

      May 19, 2010 at 11:39 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #14.2   Bizootie

      The chute does go to the dumpster. The problem is at move out the kids toss EVERYTHING in there and fill it up, so they lock the chute and bring in additional dumpsters.

      May 19, 2010 at 3:16 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

  • #15   B

    My husband is working maintenance at a college right now and it’s amazing how lazy and immature most of the students are. I mean, he and I are the same age as the seniors there and we know better than to clean out our trash can in the bathtub and leave 3 inches of debris and graywater in there. And the girls who leave their bloody used freaking tampons on the side of the tub when they get out?? WHAT ARE THEY THINKING?! He gets at least two of those every week. GROSS.

    May 18, 2010 at 10:40 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   HandyMarigolds

      Oh, ew! Ew! EW!

      I worked on the campus of a public (!) state university for five years, and people STILL played the “I pay too much to have to (insert example of demonstrating personal responsibility)” card. Um, (A) your parents are paying and (B) ooh, six grand a year. You poor aristocrat, you.

      May 19, 2010 at 10:59 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

  • #16   Reaganomics

    We need another Vietnam, thin out their ranks a bit. Apologies to Bart Simpson (and actual Vietnam vets).

    May 18, 2010 at 11:03 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

  • #17   becky

    Shit, for $51K/year, you’d think they’d teach you how to spell “acquaintance” – I mean, there are two letters wrong in there.

    May 18, 2010 at 11:10 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   Canthz_B bang

      Probably a Freshman. They don’t get to spelling until Junior year these days…be patient.

      May 19, 2010 at 1:41 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #17.2   P

      The housing in question is a non-freshman dorm. Only sophomores, juniors, and seniors live there.

      Jun 3, 2010 at 12:55 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #17.3   Canthz_B bang

      1) Buy a dictionary. Use it to look up “joke”.


      2) Ask yourself why upperclassmen at this expensive university cannot spell.

      Jun 3, 2010 at 1:18 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #18   kira

    People under the age of 70 still use cursive?

    May 18, 2010 at 11:41 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   HandyMarigolds

      I was thinking the same thing. How awesome would it be if Rebuttal Writer was one of those geriatric nontraditional students?

      May 19, 2010 at 12:11 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

  • #19   miss ithaca

    I attend this school! I promise, most people there are not this bratty. Not all buildings have garbage chutes, either… mine does not. This person is lucky enough to be living in one of the newer buildings.

    May 18, 2010 at 11:49 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #19.1   Canthz_B bang

      Luck has nothing to do with it…they pay cash money to get into the newer buildings and are being groomed to run this world…you Pell Grant kids are lucky to have an electrical system that can handle a hot-plate and an iron at the same time in your cinder-block warrens.

      May 19, 2010 at 1:35 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

    • #19.2   Atlantic Beach

      The cinder-block warrens toughen you up, as does no a/c, not having a car or pooling money together to share a pizza and 6-pack. If you can’t tolerate a spartan lifestyle in your 20′s, how do you cope when things get rough later, or appreciate things like an actual living wage and getting anything you want at the grocery store?
      I try to impart this wisdom to my stepbrother (a sophomore), but he would rather live in the $1200/mo. new apt. building with maid service and a pool than try the $200/mo. 1-room share-a-bathroom shithole I enjoyed years ago at the same university. Pussy. Those were good times…

      May 19, 2010 at 1:00 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

  • #20   dixiechick

    Hell, my favorite college professor used to go dumpster-diving every year after the kids left–she’s not just robbing the facilities people! Take your nice trash OUT, sweetie!

    May 18, 2010 at 11:53 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   Xenobiologista

      Also a favourite sport of us international students stuck on campus all summer because it’s too expensive to fly home. Aside from the free clothes and furniture, if you’re good at finding textbooks you can cash those in.

      May 19, 2010 at 10:03 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

  • #21   dixiechick

    I am also finding a fondness in myself for #2′s cursive on college-ruled notebook paper vs #1′s printed-with-smileys-on-colored-paper note. (Sunshine colored, anyone?) Old-fashioned liberal-arts values! Team College-Ruled!

    May 19, 2010 at 12:02 am   rating: 18  small thumbs up

    • #21.1   El Jefe

      I’m inclined to agree, but written as perpendicular to the actual lines? Approval status pending.

      It would have more clearly ruled if she had written it after a 90-degree spin.

      May 19, 2010 at 12:27 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #21.2   seacurs

      But look at the way she can still write in a straight line while writing against the blue lines rather than with them. That’s talent.

      May 19, 2010 at 3:27 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

  • #22   C

    It’s amazing the way some people think they can treat others, especially what goes on in the minds of certain really priveleged kids. I overheard a chick in my college’s cafeteria the other day talking about how she changes her flights from coach class to business class every time her father books her travel. Then when he gets the bill he goes “did you change this again?!” and she says (innocent/sarcastic inflection) “oh, they DID that?” and then walks away.

    I wanted to turn around and say, “wow, if you were my kid, you’d be backhanded into a coma by now.”

    May 19, 2010 at 12:04 am   rating: 31  small thumbs up

    • #22.1   Z

      There was a girl I went to school with that complained about her “old” Mercedes. She would scratch it with her keys, so it would look more wore out. And loudly state how she hopes she gets in a wreck so daddy has to get her a new car. I loudly announced one time I hope she did as well, so maybe daddy could buy her a new spine…Bitch.

      May 19, 2010 at 12:20 am   rating: 29  small thumbs up

    • #22.2   Mo® bang

      Viva la Revolution! Death to the elitist scum!

      May 19, 2010 at 11:11 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #22.3   Scribbles the Monkey bang

      Unfortunately, in this life, people with attitudes like that tend to get ahead. People treat you like you tell them to treat you, so if you’re a polite, timid person, you are telling people that you’re open to being trod upon, but if you’re a super dickhead/bitch, people get the message that you are not to be messed with.

      May 19, 2010 at 11:52 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #23   Nack

    I like the “I pay” part. More like , MY PARENTS PAY part. Shows why they think it’s not their job to take out their own garbage…or Mumsy and Dadsy neglected to inform them that they should take more pride in what they would pay that kind of money for…

    May 19, 2010 at 12:26 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

  • #24   Canthz_B bang

    I don’t think this guy really meant what he said.
    He just wasn’t himself that morning…the person that does his drinking for him went way overboard the night before, and poor Little Lord Fauntleroy had a hangover.

    May 19, 2010 at 1:18 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #24.1   Scribbles the Monkey bang

      You can say what you want about Cornell students, but I will not have you disgrace Little Lord Fauntleroy.

      May 19, 2010 at 11:53 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

  • #25   Kelly

    Heh. At the university where I work, that student would receive a charge on their final bill for the extra work Facilities had to do. I hope that OTHER New York university does the same. ;-)

    May 19, 2010 at 5:34 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

  • #26   ashmeadow

    I believe this same university also has a very high rate of suicide. I know there’s a joke to be made here, but I pay a lot for my internet so someone else can do it for me.

    May 19, 2010 at 5:48 am   rating: 22  small thumbs up

    • #26.1   Blogmella bang

      What kind of suicide? Do they throw themselves down the garbage chute?

      May 19, 2010 at 6:36 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #26.2   Canthz_B bang

      During move-out week they commit suicide by tumbling down the stairs much like lemmings over a cliff.
      Clearing the carnage is a huge chore, as most carry their trash with them because the garbage chutes are locked.

      May 19, 2010 at 8:05 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #26.3   Pterosaur

      Starving to death in your dorm room because your nanny failed to spoon-feed you last week is not technically suicide.

      But it does the job all the same.

      May 19, 2010 at 11:35 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

  • #27   Splint Chesthair

    Why the note in the first place? It would be easy enough to just toss the trash in the hallway and forget about it. Why call attention to it? I’m team “Better to beg forgiveness” all the way.

    Of course, I’m also the kind of guy who enjoys figuring security deposits as “sunk costs” and getting my moneys worth. I’m not talking damage, just stuff like, I really don’t want to move those old couches, or clean the oven, or deal with whatever died in the attic.

    May 19, 2010 at 6:23 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #27.1   Sam S

      I agree. I’ve been burned too many times on security deposits. As long as my rental isn’t a smoking hole in the ground, and that I’ve been on time, every time with my rent payments over a span of years – I should get my fucking money back.

      May 19, 2010 at 7:38 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #27.2   Canthz_B bang

      Sam, if you were burned on security deposits, how much do you estimate you burned the landlords on clean-up and repair costs?

      Even whores don’t return fucking money, so it is wise to not fuck your landlord! ;-)

      May 19, 2010 at 8:51 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #27.3   Sam S

      It’s an interesting coincidence, but I’m referring to being burned when I rented off-campus. Anybody who went to school knows how townies are out to milk students for every penny they have. Since I was young and dumb, the landlord thought they could keep my deposit even though there was NO damage to the unit. Freak’n townies.

      May 19, 2010 at 10:29 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #27.4   mamason bang

      Do you even know how douchey you sound right now. Townies? Really? What ’90s movie are you living in? Wait, I know. It’s Mystic Pizza, right?

      May 19, 2010 at 11:44 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #27.5   Splint Chesthair

      I’d like to clarify that I’m not talking about damaging a rented apartment or house on purpose, just that I always considered it worth $500 or so not to have to clean up the apartment or deal with all the mix-n-match furniture that I collected off curbs over the years that I no longer want or that have developed unusual odors.

      May 19, 2010 at 12:48 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #27.6   LittleSprout bang

      Hunh. Before I became a townie, we called the locals townies… and my husband was a local, and everyone referred to the locals as townies… I thought this was just a “thing.” No?

      Additionally, when I was in college (for all 6 years), I moved every year, and when I lived in apartments, we cleaned our apartments until they shined like diamonds… It was RARE if we got our whole deposit back. Like whomever said it above, you just sort of accept that you’re never going to see that again. We never screwed anyone over, but we also never expected to see that money again.

      May 19, 2010 at 10:13 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

  • #28   A

    sounds like some of the a-hole students i used to be around when i worked at a college. the kid that wrote the first note is going to face a very cruel reality upon graduation. mommy and daddy can’t fix everything.

    i’m glad the person in note #2 called them out.

    May 19, 2010 at 7:24 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

  • #29   Sam S

    People, get a grip.

    No, maintenence people aren’t here to be students’ personal “slaves”. But that doesn’t mean that students (the CUSTOMERS) don’t have a right to complain.

    In every job I’ve ever had – there are “rush” times. This only means you have to work a little harder and smarter. I think it is idiotic that they shut down the chutes because they can’t meet the demand. Why can’t they just double their efforts to keep the chutes clear, especially when they are FULLY AWARE that it is going to happen when the students move out?

    Students can be real spoiled and a pain in the ass – but to be fair, many times a school forgets that they are PAYING CUSTOMERS and that the students are doing THEM a favor by going to the school, not the other way around.

    And for the record, I’ve been out of college for almost 20 years now.

    May 19, 2010 at 7:44 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   jaywalke

      Wrong answer. Customers don’t have to apply to get into the store. “Student as consumer” is a load of crap.

      May 19, 2010 at 8:12 am   rating: 34  small thumbs up

    • #29.2   behindbj

      Ordinarily, I’m the “Well, what else is a garbage chute for?” type of person.

      But I totally understand the facilities people on this one. I don’t think they are worried that the container at the bottom of the garbage chute will be full. They are worried that the lazy, stupid little pieces of work will stuff things down it that have no business going down it – and will clog the garbage chute.

      Garbage chutes are meant for general, daily-type garbage. Pillows, comforters, furniture, lamps, mattresses and any amount of the large detritus left behind at the end of a college year will be stuffed down the chute by kids too lazy or too stupid to know the difference between regular garbage and bulk garbage.

      And, Sam S., in case you didn’t know it – the customer is not always right.

      May 19, 2010 at 8:13 am   rating: 35  small thumbs up

    • #29.3   Canthz_B bang

      If students are customers, why don’t they all get perfect grades? The customer is always right…right?

      You can’t buy an education…though you can pay to receive a good one, which our Sam apparently has not.
      Students pay for the privilege of attending university, part of which requires they follow university rules as they are provided with an opportunity to receive an education.

      The university staff, be they professors or maintenance persons, do not work for the students. They work for the university. The students don’t set wages, nor do they write paychecks to the staff, therefore, the staff should not be treated as “the help”.
      Students cannot sue professors if they don’t get an education. Students pay for a chance to succeed, not for a guarantee of success, as the academic success of the student is the responsibility of the student, not that of the staff.
      Just as the path to maturity is the students’ responsibility…not that of the maintenance staff.

      Customers pay to visit hotels, which typically supply maid service.

      May 19, 2010 at 8:30 am   rating: 37  small thumbs up

    • #29.4   Sam S

      So you are mocking my education because of an opinion I have?

      Apparently you slept through critical analysis. You don’t seem to know the difference between ignorance and having an informed opinion (though you may disagree with it).

      Methinks you were a professors’ pet. Good for you.

      May 19, 2010 at 10:15 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #29.5   Splint Chesthair

      People with poorly supported opinions deserve to have their education mocked. You are not entitled to receive respect for your opinion.

      May 19, 2010 at 11:16 am   rating: 30  small thumbs up

    • #29.6   mamason bang

      Sam, you’ve given us the perfect example of the difference between ignorance and having an informed opinion. I also don’t believe anyone mocked your education. I believe it’s you that we’re mocking because you seem to be a pompous ass with a bit of the dick added for good measure. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

      May 19, 2010 at 11:51 am   rating: 18  small thumbs up

    • #29.7   infant tyrone bang

      First they came for the dicks, and I didn’t speak up…
      well, hey, mine’s working fine and still under warranty…

      May 19, 2010 at 4:12 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #29.8   Woman on the Verge bang

      Ty, there are just too many jokes I could make about them coming for your dick. It’s too easy.

      May 19, 2010 at 4:43 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #29.9   Mama24

      Or, they can walk to the dumpster. It’s not that hard.

      May 19, 2010 at 10:08 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #29.10   Canthz_B bang

      Sam, I’m not mocking your education because of an opinion you have.

      I’m mocking your opinion because of the education you say you have.

      By not seeing that, you prove my point quite well.

      Apparently, you took a nap or nine during critical analysis too. ;-)

      As far as your opinion being informed…not so much so.
      Your security deposit has nothing to do with your rent payments. It has to do with the condition of the apartment when you leave it as opposed to the condition it was in when you rented it. The two are in no way linked.

      I can only go by New Jersey law on the security deposit issue, because that’s the only one I have experience with, but the landlord is required to deposit that sum into a bank account in the tenant’s name, and cannot apply it towards delinquent rents.
      The security deposit is for the expressed purpose of securing the ability of the landlord to finance required repairs to the domicile at the end of the lease term which exceed “normal wear”.

      In short, you break it, you’ve bought it.
      If the cost of repairs above and beyond normal wear exceed your security deposit, you’ll get nothing back.
      Nor should you.

      May 20, 2010 at 1:56 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #29.11   Zar

      I’ve had students like Sam. They’re the douches who threaten to sue when they don’t pass class, and claim to pay my salary (note: my college is a community college, funded largely by the state and federal governments).

      It feels so good to give them Fs.

      May 26, 2010 at 11:18 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

  • #30   Reaganomics

    Hi Sam S, or notewriter #1 as you were known previously. Ya big baby. Mommy and daddy coming to visit soon to carry that awful garbage out for you? Maybe burp you and wipe your bum too? That’s good, you go on being a privileged little puke, the rest of us find it quite entertaining.

    May 19, 2010 at 8:23 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #30.1   Sam S

      You need to go back to school and learn how to read. I’ve been out of school for almost 20 years.

      And for the record, I WORKED for the college I attended – as well as other jobs during break. No one was wiping my ass. And no one is wiping my ass now.

      You folks seem to have a big problem with someone having a different opinion than you. I think that says a lot more about you than me.

      May 19, 2010 at 10:20 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #30.2   mamason bang

      Where’s the problem in our stating our differing opinions? I think it’s admirable that you worked your way through college but IMO you have come off as a snobby, stuck-up jerky jerk face. I hope I’m wrong. I really do like to believe the best about people. Maybe you could post something funny or at least not condescending and boorish.

      May 19, 2010 at 11:57 am   rating: 24  small thumbs up

    • #30.3   Scribbles the Monkey bang

      The students have the right to complain, but instead of throwing a tantrum and leaving trash all over the place, they should address the dorm coordinator with suggestions for improvement.

      May 19, 2010 at 12:07 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #30.4   Canthz_B bang

      Bah, Sam…you didn’t WORK FOR THE COLLEGE YOU ATTENDED…you bartered work for education under the supervision of an employee of the college.

      We used to call that “work/study” over twenty years ago, and it was part of the financial aid package offered to qualified (read financially challenged) students.

      God, you are full of yourself these days. Have you learned nothing in the over twenty years since attending college?

      May 20, 2010 at 2:26 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #30.5   tinkerbell2

      The phrase ‘jerky jerk face’ has made my day. Mamason, I think I love you. Sam, not so much.

      May 20, 2010 at 6:53 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #30.6   Zar

      It’s interesting to note that Sam S states he has been out of college for twenty years, but he never states that he graduated.

      May 26, 2010 at 11:20 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #31   Shannon

    Clearly she lives in a tall building, hence the garbage chutes. Do you know how hard it is to walk down flights of stairs in Manolo’s? Nevermind carrying bags of garbage. Even the thought of it exhausts me, have some sympathy for the poor girl.

    May 19, 2010 at 8:51 am   rating: 20  small thumbs up

    • #31.1   Canthz_B bang

      You understand what an elevator is for, right?
      It’s that funny looking closet that sometimes opens when you push the button, but sometimes makes you wait?

      Why can’t they fix the damned closet so it opens as soon as you press the button every time you press it? :lol:

      May 19, 2010 at 8:59 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #31.2   Shannon

      Wouldn’t it be nice if sarcasm translated through comments?!

      May 19, 2010 at 9:17 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #31.3   Canthz_B bang

      Apparently, it does! :-P

      must have missed my emoticon there. i was just running with it.
      you’ve been here before, right? know how this works, do ya?

      May 19, 2010 at 9:18 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #31.4   Shannon

      Haha, ya I know how this works.

      May 19, 2010 at 9:29 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #32   Veloxiraptor bang

    Team lazy.

    Getting into a dorm elevator is enough of a battle at this time of year WITHOUT the additional trash-dumping traffic.

    May 19, 2010 at 9:10 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

  • #33   Edwina the Defrocked Nun

    sigh – although I don’t think she leaves notes about it, my 5th-year college-age kid (with no degree in sight) has the same sort of entitled behavior. And we are not rich nor did we raise her to act that way. It worries me greatly. Though I realize something is wrong, and I may have contributed to it in some way, I have no idea what to do now. The other kid doesn’t have the same issues. (That’s what she said.)

    May 19, 2010 at 9:15 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #33.1   infanttyrone

      Sounds like one’a yer offspring has growed into somethin’ like a cow with the aftosa so maybe herd thinnin’…

      Cut yer losses?

      May 19, 2010 at 10:09 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #33.2   Splint Chesthair

      My daughter always had that same attitude. I’m working the “if you don’t own it, you don’t get a say in the rules governing its use” mantra. Hopefully, she gets to an age where asking permission to take the car somewhere or to have friends over gets old and that will motivate her to get out into the real world where failing to obey the “if you don’t own it…” mantra is way more harsh.

      May 19, 2010 at 10:09 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #33.3   infant tyrone bang

      Don’t take me literal, now, y’heah?
      Just tryin’ out a Burroughs riff up yonder.

      To mangle an Aquinas-ism, just rejoice in
      the fact that your other thief was saved.

      May 19, 2010 at 11:33 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #34   Canthz_B bang

    Is this where we use the phrase “self-important little twit”?

    May 19, 2010 at 9:19 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

  • #35   Yebs

    No way – Brown is the school that no one ever remembers is an Ivy. You might as well go to NYU at that point.

    May 19, 2010 at 9:55 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #35.1   Edwina the Defrocked Nun

      The only Ivy schools are Yale, Harvard, and Princeton. Any more.

      May 19, 2010 at 10:47 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #35.2   Mo® bang

      The eight institutions are Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University, Dartmouth College, Harvard University, Princeton University, the University of Pennsylvania, and Yale University.

      Dartmouth… U Penn… WTF!!! :razz:

      May 19, 2010 at 11:18 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #35.3   Bruno

      Brown’s admission rate: 9.3%

      Cornell’s admission rate: 18.4%

      That is all.

      May 19, 2010 at 11:48 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #35.4   Splint Chesthair

      But does that tell us anything useful? Maybe no one wants to go to Brown?

      May 19, 2010 at 12:55 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #35.5   Mo® bang

      What can Brown do for you?

      May 19, 2010 at 4:27 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #35.6   Canthz_B bang

      Get you laid at RISD!!

      May 20, 2010 at 1:24 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

  • #36   Melissa B

    woah 51 thou?!

    …. i work hard all year to pay my 4000 $ school bills…

    May 19, 2010 at 11:30 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #37   Knowit

    Just so you know that school has a very good aid program so if any student cannot pay the school kicks in most of the aid instead of going to the government or private loans.

    That said I would expect that a student that is getting aid wouldn’t say crap like that. Sounds like a spoiled brat to me.

    May 19, 2010 at 2:57 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #37.1   Xenobiologista

      Agree, I don’t think most student who REALLY need financial aid would have such an inflated sense of their own importance. Especially because many people who are on aid also have to work “peon” jobs to fill in the gaps. I went to college on a full tuition scholarship and worked custodial, food service, and grounds (at different times) to pay for room and board. It gives you a pretty good appreciation of how much shit the staff put up with from other students.

      May 19, 2010 at 10:23 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

  • #38   Bizootie

    What do you expect from West Campus.

    May 19, 2010 at 3:19 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

  • #39   WittlessForThePersecution

    I’m with team “I would be so ashamed to call someone like you a friend or aquaintance,aquaintence ,acqaint…….. ” oh fuck it I’m with team just clean your shit up already.

    May 19, 2010 at 6:43 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

  • #40   Walker, "Tex" (a stranger)

    Apparently $51k isn’t enough to buy you a room in an ivy-covered dorm. It seems you also have to trade in your integrity, common sense and any sort of consideration for anyone else.

    Team school of hard knocks.

    May 19, 2010 at 8:51 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #41   Cordelia

    About the $51K – the student could be there on a combo of merit scholarships, work aid, and student loans – all of which have nothing to do with parent contribution. We have no way of knowing. BUT that still doesn’t excuse the thoughtlessness of leaving your trash for the maintenance staff to clean up because you want to pout like a little princess. At Harvard they have something called Dorm Crew where students are employed at minimum wage to clean the bathrooms, etc. in their dorms. Maybe the note writer should try a week of that and see what it’s like for the maintenance employees!

    May 19, 2010 at 9:56 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #41.1   DanielMac

      I’m with anyone who’s said something similar to the following: I would think that someone who’s managed to amass $51,000 on their own through scholarship, work aid and student loans has a level of maturity and a work ethic that would preclude writing a note like this. I can’t believe someone who would have worked as hard as that would require would write a note in which they refuse to take a bag of garbage downstairs. Unless they never leave the dorm I presume they go downstairs from time to time anyway.
      Besides, I’d argue that if this person did really work to put together for $51,000 for school, and STILL wrote a note like this? Even more of a douche than a rich kid who was raised that way.

      May 20, 2010 at 1:10 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #42   Kayla

    Man, I love how the Cornell alums are coming out of the woodwork to mention having gone there. It makes Andy Bernard on The Office about 1,000 times more believable.

    May 24, 2010 at 6:46 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #42.1   Winston Chang

      I went to Cornell. It’s nothing to be proud of.

      May 25, 2010 at 4:17 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

  • #43   Hi I'm a Shprikovakolfarmahjitok

    Ok, I’m a university student and frankly my experience makes me side with the poster of the first note.

    I don’t know if all universities are like this or if mine is a special case, but my university does not give me entirely what I pay for (and from what I’ve heard, they are all the same).

    Just a few examples I’ve encountered:
    - My university has no guidelines regarding what to do in the event of problems that occur regularly or are sure to occur.
    For instance, I once couldn’t do an exam because of a mistake on the teacher’s part. The university immediately admitted it was entirely the teacher’s fault, yet they could not offer me fair solutions to ensure that I would get the mark I deserved.
    When I asked if they had written guidelines or rules about what to do in such situations, they told me they had nothing. Although I could not do the exam because of the teacher’s mistake, this is the same type of situation as a teacher losing a student’s exam/assignment before grading it, which I am sure is an event that happens every year in every university. Yet, no guidelines about this.

    - Teachers post all marks online except for the marks on final exams. For these, we must send them e-mails once our final grades(i.e. course averages) are out and wait for replies.
    Why aren’t the marks of final exams posed? I’m guessing it’s just laziness. I think knowing my marks is good feedback that tells me how well I did and if I should study more efficiently in the future. Basically, it’s important for academic success. I can’t even begin top understand why such information isn’t given away to students immediately (i.e. without them having to request it).

    There are other problems like these that I consider to be quite unprofessional from a university. I won’t list them all,
    I just wanted to give a few examples to show what kind of problems I’m talking about (i.e. problems about academic performance and success, not “petty” problems such as “they have a tennis court but they won’t open a swimming pool!”)

    So again this could be just my university, but I heard they’re all the same. Students I talk to fell universities try to suck as much money out of them. That is easy for them to do considering the lack of competition on the education market (at this level of education); students don’t have the choice to go to a better uni, they can only choose between sucking it up or cleaning toilets ll their life.

    So with that in mind, I would not be very patient with my university. If I was in the same situation as the guy who posted the first note, I would also be telling the university “I’m paying lots of money to live in a building with a chute. So if it doesn’t work, find an other solution!”.

    That’s life: you can’t use people and then expect them to make you favors.

    As for the second note: I disagree with it. Facility employees do not have to pick up the garbage for students if this is not part of their job contract. If it is, then they are paid to do it. It’s that simple.

    The way I see it, things should work that way:
    - Students should not bring the garbage outside, they should expect the university to hire someone to pick it up until the chute is working again.
    - Employees whose job it is NOT to pick up this trash should refuse to do this task if asked.
    - The trash will accumulate in the hall. Wait a few days, and if the university still won’t do anything about it despite the complaints, then a threat to call the sanitary inspection service should convince them.

    And I’m pretty sure it is legally the responsibility of the owner of the facility to find an alternative to the chute. You see, students have signed a contract that says they pay to live in a building which features a chute.

    Oh and by the way, an elevator won’t help. If the whole dorm takes their trash outside that week, it will be crowded and students may need to wait quite a bit every time they take out the trash.

    Not to mention that if this occurs every year, the university should be prepared for it.

    And if anyone intends to say “it’s only unavailable for one week”, my reply will be “then they need to hire someone only for one week!”.

    Definitely a case of a university trying to save a few bucks on the back of students.

    Jun 8, 2010 at 2:40 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

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