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		<title>By: Zarah</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2010/10/27/best-wishes-godless-heathens/comment-page-1/#comment-375095</link>
		<dc:creator>Zarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 03:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the reception dinner is costing the bride and groom $30 to $50 per plate, unless you give at least that much, you aren’t giving a gift at all…you’re costing them money.&quot;

This is why I&#039;ve never attended any wedding I was invited to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the reception dinner is costing the bride and groom $30 to $50 per plate, unless you give at least that much, you aren’t giving a gift at all…you’re costing them money.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is why I&#8217;ve never attended any wedding I was invited to.</p>
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		<title>By: tossing in the holy hand grenade of dissent</title>
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		<dc:creator>tossing in the holy hand grenade of dissent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 03:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Lauren: the size of the gift was definitely not &#039;wrong&#039; -- a bride and groom should NEVER expect that their guests&#039; gifts will recoup for them the costs of their event.  The happy couple should spend only what they can afford to part with, and their thinking when inviting guests should be that they want to be with loved ones on that special day--NOT that the value of the person&#039;s attending lies in how much their gift cost.  
The converse of this is that those who claim the status of &#039;loved one of bride and/or groom&#039; have to LIVE their claim, i.e., truly BE loving and supportive, which includes NOT denigrating the bride &amp; groom&#039;s core beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Lauren: the size of the gift was definitely not &#8216;wrong&#8217; &#8212; a bride and groom should NEVER expect that their guests&#8217; gifts will recoup for them the costs of their event.  The happy couple should spend only what they can afford to part with, and their thinking when inviting guests should be that they want to be with loved ones on that special day&#8211;NOT that the value of the person&#8217;s attending lies in how much their gift cost.<br />
The converse of this is that those who claim the status of &#8216;loved one of bride and/or groom&#8217; have to LIVE their claim, i.e., truly BE loving and supportive, which includes NOT denigrating the bride &amp; groom&#8217;s core beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Canthz_B</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2010/10/27/best-wishes-godless-heathens/comment-page-1/#comment-374731</link>
		<dc:creator>Canthz_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 22:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren, you have a bit of a point, but here&#039;s a rule of thumb to consider.

If the reception dinner  is costing the bride and groom  $30 to $50 per plate, unless you give at least that much, you aren&#039;t giving a gift at all...you&#039;re costing them money.

These people rolled in four-deep with shallow pockets and had the nerve to be saddened by something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren, you have a bit of a point, but here&#8217;s a rule of thumb to consider.</p>
<p>If the reception dinner  is costing the bride and groom  $30 to $50 per plate, unless you give at least that much, you aren&#8217;t giving a gift at all&#8230;you&#8217;re costing them money.</p>
<p>These people rolled in four-deep with shallow pockets and had the nerve to be saddened by something?</p>
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		<title>By: pony girl</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2010/10/27/best-wishes-godless-heathens/comment-page-1/#comment-374727</link>
		<dc:creator>pony girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that wedding card makes the baby jesus cry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that wedding card makes the baby jesus cry</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, ya&#039;ll. Way to knock the 50 bucks. Yeah, it&#039;s a enough for a dinner at a restaurant... or to pay half my power bill, or for that oil change the car can&#039;t keep going without. 

I totally agree that the note is definitely PA and inappropriate, but some of us are poor! Also, from cousins-in-law (not immediate family), who presumably have two children draining their bank accounts, it&#039;s definitely an appropriate amount to give. 

I think that the key to recognizing how PA the note sounds is the focus on the &#039;P&#039;- Of COURSE they&#039;re happy, just, they would have been happier... which means, basically, &quot;You have displeased us.&quot; Nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, ya&#8217;ll. Way to knock the 50 bucks. Yeah, it&#8217;s a enough for a dinner at a restaurant&#8230; or to pay half my power bill, or for that oil change the car can&#8217;t keep going without. </p>
<p>I totally agree that the note is definitely PA and inappropriate, but some of us are poor! Also, from cousins-in-law (not immediate family), who presumably have two children draining their bank accounts, it&#8217;s definitely an appropriate amount to give. </p>
<p>I think that the key to recognizing how PA the note sounds is the focus on the &#8216;P&#8217;- Of COURSE they&#8217;re happy, just, they would have been happier&#8230; which means, basically, &#8220;You have displeased us.&#8221; Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Canthz_B</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2010/10/27/best-wishes-godless-heathens/comment-page-1/#comment-374632</link>
		<dc:creator>Canthz_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tex, Atheists and Agnostics don&#039;t object to the Bible. They don&#039;t believe in, or question the existence of a great and glorious God.

Why do &quot;you people&quot; always characterize people in such a negative light if they don&#039;t happen to share your belief in invisible super-beings? 
You don&#039;t sound much like a joy to be around. Nowhere near like Christ-like in your attitudes towards people. Try reading that Good Book again, like so many of &quot;us&quot; have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tex, Atheists and Agnostics don&#8217;t object to the Bible. They don&#8217;t believe in, or question the existence of a great and glorious God.</p>
<p>Why do &#8220;you people&#8221; always characterize people in such a negative light if they don&#8217;t happen to share your belief in invisible super-beings?<br />
You don&#8217;t sound much like a joy to be around. Nowhere near like Christ-like in your attitudes towards people. Try reading that Good Book again, like so many of &#8220;us&#8221; have.</p>
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		<title>By: JJG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, can&#039;t wait &#039;til I get these type of cards from my family. That&#039;s what I get for leaving the Mormon &quot;church&quot; though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, can&#8217;t wait &#8217;til I get these type of cards from my family. That&#8217;s what I get for leaving the Mormon &#8220;church&#8221; though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: anglophile</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2010/10/27/best-wishes-godless-heathens/comment-page-1/#comment-374462</link>
		<dc:creator>anglophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The submitter herself, the recipient, has described her marriage as secular.  It might come as news to you, Allyson, but not &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt; in the world needs religious sanction to live their lives how they see fit.  Some people are perfectly happy not getting involved with any kind of religion at all.  Just something to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The submitter herself, the recipient, has described her marriage as secular.  It might come as news to you, Allyson, but not <i>everyone</i> in the world needs religious sanction to live their lives how they see fit.  Some people are perfectly happy not getting involved with any kind of religion at all.  Just something to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Allyson</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2010/10/27/best-wishes-godless-heathens/comment-page-1/#comment-374460</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Allyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 21:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree it&#039;s PA, but I don&#039;t think it implies that the couple isn&#039;t religious. The note refers to &quot;the church&quot; as if it&#039;s a family church they all attend, or used to attend, together. It&#039;s possible the couple chose to marry on the beach or in their backyard instead of in the church, and, since some churches won&#039;t send a priest/minister to officiate a wedding not in a church, the couple would have had to find another minister. Maybe the cousins are upset that the couple was married by a nondenominational minister, or something like that, instead of in the family church. I know my parents would have been. We were married in a church, just not our family church, and that was enough for our families, but they would have been upset if we&#039;d married outside (I don&#039;t think any Catholic priest will officiate an outdoor wedding.)

I didn&#039;t read the note (the first time) to mean that the blessings had a double meaning. Just that they wished the couple had married in the church with the family&#039;s pastor. But, I could be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it&#8217;s PA, but I don&#8217;t think it implies that the couple isn&#8217;t religious. The note refers to &#8220;the church&#8221; as if it&#8217;s a family church they all attend, or used to attend, together. It&#8217;s possible the couple chose to marry on the beach or in their backyard instead of in the church, and, since some churches won&#8217;t send a priest/minister to officiate a wedding not in a church, the couple would have had to find another minister. Maybe the cousins are upset that the couple was married by a nondenominational minister, or something like that, instead of in the family church. I know my parents would have been. We were married in a church, just not our family church, and that was enough for our families, but they would have been upset if we&#8217;d married outside (I don&#8217;t think any Catholic priest will officiate an outdoor wedding.)</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t read the note (the first time) to mean that the blessings had a double meaning. Just that they wished the couple had married in the church with the family&#8217;s pastor. But, I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: anglophile</title>
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		<dc:creator>anglophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 13:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason you think a comment like this is &quot;a little PA&quot; is probably because you would make a comment like that yourself, Tex. 

Seriously, it is grossly inappropriate to tell a supposed loved family member that their marriage made them sad.  In the card whose sole purpose is to congratulate them on their marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason you think a comment like this is &#8220;a little PA&#8221; is probably because you would make a comment like that yourself, Tex. </p>
<p>Seriously, it is grossly inappropriate to tell a supposed loved family member that their marriage made them sad.  In the card whose sole purpose is to congratulate them on their marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2010/10/27/best-wishes-godless-heathens/comment-page-1/#comment-374429</link>
		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to disagree. The senders of this card are very toxic. There is a difference between the family member that has a discussion about your life choices with you and does so on a respectful level, and one who sends blatantly rude and disrespectful cards under the guise of congratulating you. This was in no way respectful, and more than just a little PA. I would take the P out of the equation if I am honest. 

I do agree that there are always family members that are weird or annoying, but again, big difference between creepy Uncle Bob who saves nail clippings in a jar, and holier than thou so and so that sends rude cards. There is no excuse for this kind of lapse in basic etiquette, and when it takes a stab at those life choices in the way that it has, then it&#039;s really not even worth accepting the present. They are not celebrating the wedding. They are criticizing it and tearing it down, and if someone had done something like this to them, they would react in similar or worse manner. Let&#039;s put it this way, if they are sending cards like this, the things they must be saying behind this couple&#039;s back must be incredibly... interesting.

Not having people like this in one&#039;s life makes for increased life joy. So yes, we are probably a joy to be around because we don&#039;t surround ourselves with negativity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to disagree. The senders of this card are very toxic. There is a difference between the family member that has a discussion about your life choices with you and does so on a respectful level, and one who sends blatantly rude and disrespectful cards under the guise of congratulating you. This was in no way respectful, and more than just a little PA. I would take the P out of the equation if I am honest. </p>
<p>I do agree that there are always family members that are weird or annoying, but again, big difference between creepy Uncle Bob who saves nail clippings in a jar, and holier than thou so and so that sends rude cards. There is no excuse for this kind of lapse in basic etiquette, and when it takes a stab at those life choices in the way that it has, then it&#8217;s really not even worth accepting the present. They are not celebrating the wedding. They are criticizing it and tearing it down, and if someone had done something like this to them, they would react in similar or worse manner. Let&#8217;s put it this way, if they are sending cards like this, the things they must be saying behind this couple&#8217;s back must be incredibly&#8230; interesting.</p>
<p>Not having people like this in one&#8217;s life makes for increased life joy. So yes, we are probably a joy to be around because we don&#8217;t surround ourselves with negativity.</p>
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		<title>By: Texshan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 01:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Families are weird and annoying and you just have to be willing to ignore it or laugh it off, unless you want to become known as the humorless &quot;holier&quot;-than-thou person everyone dreads having to spend time with at holidays and other family get-togethers. Do I have relatives who have pissed me off? You bet. But they are family and, unless they are truly toxic, I need to turn the other cheek (to borrow a line from the book so many of you object to). The main point I was making was that these family members were being a little PA, but at least they celebrated the bride and groom&#039;s wedding. I&#039;ve had plenty of family members question my life choices (remaining single, not having kids, leaving the church I was raised in, etc.), but you take the bad with the good. You people sound like a real joy to be around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Families are weird and annoying and you just have to be willing to ignore it or laugh it off, unless you want to become known as the humorless &#8220;holier&#8221;-than-thou person everyone dreads having to spend time with at holidays and other family get-togethers. Do I have relatives who have pissed me off? You bet. But they are family and, unless they are truly toxic, I need to turn the other cheek (to borrow a line from the book so many of you object to). The main point I was making was that these family members were being a little PA, but at least they celebrated the bride and groom&#8217;s wedding. I&#8217;ve had plenty of family members question my life choices (remaining single, not having kids, leaving the church I was raised in, etc.), but you take the bad with the good. You people sound like a real joy to be around.</p>
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		<title>By: Evilbeagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evilbeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 12:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m assuming you are religious in some form or another, Texshan. How about this? If an atheist relative or friend were to send you a card for your wedding that stated how saddened they were by your church wedding/religious belief, and basically expressed the sentiment this card did, I&#039;ve little doubt you would be insulted. 

Most people would not send a card like this if they had even an ounce of respect for the person receiving the card. As an atheist, I wouldn&#039;t dream of saying something along this line to a religious person, and if I am invited to a church wedding and care about the people getting married enough to go, I suck it up and go to the church. It is not my place to criticize their choices any more than it is the religious person to criticize mine.

This card was in horribly bad taste. I would return the card and the gift had I received it as Antigirl would have. Self righteous people like this have no place in a normal person&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m assuming you are religious in some form or another, Texshan. How about this? If an atheist relative or friend were to send you a card for your wedding that stated how saddened they were by your church wedding/religious belief, and basically expressed the sentiment this card did, I&#8217;ve little doubt you would be insulted. </p>
<p>Most people would not send a card like this if they had even an ounce of respect for the person receiving the card. As an atheist, I wouldn&#8217;t dream of saying something along this line to a religious person, and if I am invited to a church wedding and care about the people getting married enough to go, I suck it up and go to the church. It is not my place to criticize their choices any more than it is the religious person to criticize mine.</p>
<p>This card was in horribly bad taste. I would return the card and the gift had I received it as Antigirl would have. Self righteous people like this have no place in a normal person&#8217;s life.</p>
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		<title>By: Antigirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 23:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think it was nice of them to &quot;take the time&quot; to send a card and money, and that gives them the right to criticize the way the couple chose to get married? Really?? &quot;Here&#039;s $50 and a f- you, enjoy!&quot; I&#039;d rather they keep their money, their card, and their condescending opinion to themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think it was nice of them to &#8220;take the time&#8221; to send a card and money, and that gives them the right to criticize the way the couple chose to get married? Really?? &#8220;Here&#8217;s $50 and a f- you, enjoy!&#8221; I&#8217;d rather they keep their money, their card, and their condescending opinion to themselves.</p>
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