See you never again in my life

March 6th, 2011 · 101 comments

Writes Tracie in Sleaford, England: “My daughter Daisy (9) is a super kid…until she’s asked to tidy her room.”

(Then she’s just downright adorable.)

To Mum: I'm going to run away because your [sic] being mean to me. If you want to know where I am I'm at Fillets or the Co-ope or McDonalds. See you never again in my life. Daisy

P.S. “Fillets” is the name of the fish & chip shop in town.

related: (I’m Gonna) Run Away

FILED UNDER: kids · McDonalds · most popular notes of 2011 · U.K. · your/you're


101 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Amy

    This is up there with “You burned my feelings“…Love it!

    Mar 6, 2011 at 11:04 am   rating: 17  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   Lauren--NY

      Adorably hilarious!

      Mar 7, 2011 at 2:25 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #2   DecaturPen

    I’m running away forever, here’s where to find me.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 11:10 am   rating: 84  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   KatieMB bang

      ….and could you bring my jammies? and my iPod?

      Mar 7, 2011 at 10:16 am   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #3   lagne

    You go, Daisy.

    And now I’m gonna sit back and wait for all the “IF I’D WRITTEN A SIMILAR NOTE TO MY PARENTS WHEN *I* WAS A KID…” comments from all the “I have a giant stick in my ass” people. :-)

    Mar 6, 2011 at 11:12 am   rating: 25  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   autumn

      Getting annoyed by comments that don’t even exist? Really?

      Mar 6, 2011 at 12:45 pm   rating: 50  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.2   Meg

      Me, I’m waiting for the “I’m a teacher, and there’s NO way a 9yo wrote this note,” comments.

      It always makes me think those teachers have classes full of kids that can’t write. :D

      Mar 6, 2011 at 1:02 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.3   Kate

      I am a teacher and a 9 year old could easily have written this.

      Mar 6, 2011 at 2:09 pm   rating: 27  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.4   Russian

      I am a teacher and a 9 year old and I could easily have written this.

      Mar 6, 2011 at 3:35 pm   rating: 40  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.5   Smiley4099

      When I was nine, I did write a note like this. I think mine was worse, actually.

      Mar 6, 2011 at 4:43 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.6   Mrs.Beasley bang

      If I’d have written a note like this to my mother when I was nine, any of its inherent charm would have been lost on my father, who’d have shown me the error of my disrespectful ways with the back of his hand.

      Mar 6, 2011 at 8:06 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.7   AuntyBron

      I’m the 7th of 8 kids. If I’d written a note like this my mother would have suggested that I take one or more of my sibs with me.

      Mar 6, 2011 at 11:54 pm   rating: 61  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.8   clumber

      I am not a teacher, not a mother, and am not a 9 year old… However, I did write a letter similar to this around that same age. Taped it firmly on the fridge, gathered whatever a 9 year old gathers to run away with, and left. I hid under trees, around bushes, ducked behind cars whenever anyone drove by. Once a police car drove by and, certain they were looking for me, I dove behind a neighbor’s parked car, all stuntman style. When I decided they had suffered enough, I returned home to find the note where I left it, and my parents still watching television.

      I was the only one who knew I had run away.

      Mar 7, 2011 at 8:05 am   rating: 89  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.9   Canthz_B bang

      LOL, Clumb… when I ran away, I had a firm plan in place. I planned to make vast sums of money bagging groceries at a local market and drying cars at a car wash (you could get a whole buck by doing a Caddy!).
      My mom, knowing what a serious child I was, sent my sister after me…I made it about a block from home before she caught me and talked me down to a smooth landing at home.

      So much for becoming Horatio Alger!

      Mar 7, 2011 at 8:46 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.10   The Elf

      You know, I think every 9 year old has “run away” or a least thought about it. I made it as far as the local library, when I decided it was too damn hot and I needed a break. One favorite book later and I was in a better mood and on my way back home again.

      Mar 7, 2011 at 12:01 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.11   Nunavut Guy

      My parents ran away when I was nine.Still waiting.

      Mar 7, 2011 at 12:12 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.12   AuntyBron

      I never ran away from home – I apparently knew a good thing when I saw it.

      Mar 7, 2011 at 1:10 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.13   Smiley4099

      I wrote a letter to my friend telling her that I was running away to her becuase my horrible parents made me move to Georgia against my will. I then had my parents proof-read for errors.

      Too PA?

      Mar 7, 2011 at 8:14 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.14   Kate from Iowa

      I threatened to run away once, then stayed in my room and sulked when one of the neighbors explained why I couldn’t be a Hobbit.

      I was a wierd kid.

      Mar 8, 2011 at 2:23 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.15   Smiley4099

      So why couldn’t you be a Hobbit?

      Mar 8, 2011 at 7:53 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #4   unholyghost2003 bang

    It was so nice of Daisy to include the list of places she will be. Now Mum knows what places to avoid so as to ensure she will never again see Daisy in her life.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 11:12 am   rating: 78  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   Laura Brown

      Hey, at least Mum will know she’s eating.

      Mar 6, 2011 at 1:33 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.2   The Elf

      Yes, I thought it funny that she named three food places where she’d be….. That is a kid with a plan!

      Mar 7, 2011 at 12:02 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #5   angela

    OH, come on, that is ADORABLE!!

    Mar 6, 2011 at 11:33 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #5.1   Mrs.Beasley bang

      I agree, it’s definitely adorable! And yet, where I live, getting a note like this from my 9 y.o. daughter would be a lot more chilling than adorable. No idea what conditions are like in Sleaford, England, but where I live the idea of a little girl heading off alone to pout at a local fast food joint would strike fear in one’s heart.

      Mar 6, 2011 at 3:05 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #5.2   Canthz_B bang

      Yeah. Where I’m from a pouting little girl at a fast food joint would strike fear into my heart…those little so-and-so’s carry weapons and can snap at any moment…the little prepubescent time-bombs!

      Wait! Is this me, or a fictional alter-ego (bobby t) of a fictional character (killjoj) speaking for me?

      I disagree with them. Figure that one out! :lol:

      Check yourself, before you wreck yourself, Mrs. B. :-P

      Mar 6, 2011 at 6:44 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #5.3   Tracie

      i can assure you she didnt reach the door despite it being a nice area :)

      daisys mum
      x

      Mar 9, 2011 at 12:29 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #6   Bunny

    Stay classy, Randy.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 12:09 pm   rating: 42  small thumbs up

     
  • #7   Liz

    Without a doubt the best way to end a letter. I may have to find situations where I can use that.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 12:21 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   Splint Chesthair

      I might make that my email sig.

      Mar 6, 2011 at 12:34 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #8   McManus

    It occurs to me that P.A. notes are probably not the greatest forum to discuss a distressing topic of runaway exploitation.

    however, I’d note that ignoring the concept or sweeping it under the rug or accusing anyone that knows about the situation as a perv seems to be a pretty strong knee-jerk reaction.

    Anyone that knows about minor exploitation through publications of studies, books or classes focused on law doesn’t automatically make them a perv.

    Cops know about this, lawyers, judges, social workers, missing child network volunteers and so on…

    In short, don’t be so quick to judge those that cynically knows that runaways sometimes end up in a dire situation.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 2:34 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #9   Canthz_B bang

    Daisy seems to have it all figured out.

    She knows exactly where to look for work without a complete education.

    ♫ Daisy, Daisy, please take my order do… ♫

    Mar 6, 2011 at 2:47 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #10   bliffit

    Stay randy, classy.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 3:24 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

     
  • #11   Canthz_B bang

    I agree with Mrazda71.
    Why, when I was a pimp in NYC, I’d have killed anyone who tried to beat me to a fresh young runaway from Iowa at the bus station!

    Yo! Daisy! You look hungry, Girl. Come with me and I’ll get you a bite to eat…don’t worry, you can pay me back later…

    Mar 6, 2011 at 4:26 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #12   Canthz_B bang

    Classy Randy, STAY!…good boy.

    Now FETCH!…good boy.

    Now PLAY DEAD…good boy.

    Now PLAY DEAD and STAY!…good boy!!

    Mar 6, 2011 at 4:34 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

     
  • #13   Canthz_B bang

    She’s just a runaway child running wild.
    Please, don’t eat the Daisies you perverts! :-P

    Mar 6, 2011 at 4:47 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #14   Emily

    I love how this 9 year old has the true art of passive aggression down. She lets her mom know she’ll never get to see her again, but also includes where she’ll be just in case her mom wants to come beg for forgiveness.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 4:51 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   The Elf

      I know, it’s brilliant! I forsee a great future in roommate disagreements and parking tiffs. Keep on keepin’ on, Daisy.

      Mar 7, 2011 at 12:07 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #15   DS

    Damn it, it’s “you’re”, not “your”. Idiot.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 4:51 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   Nunavut Guy

      She’s NINE……(dumb ass).

      Mar 6, 2011 at 5:28 pm   rating: 31  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.2   Canthz_B bang

      Yeah, but the competitive side of me is chagrined to find the British education system is catching down to the American education system.

      We’ve really got to produce less well-educated children at a greater rate before they catch us.

      Mar 6, 2011 at 5:55 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.3   DS

      Being nine is no excuse. And she needs to sort out that sloppy handwriting.

      Mar 7, 2011 at 9:37 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.4   Nunavut Guy

      Are you a nun teaching at a catholic school?

      Mar 7, 2011 at 12:16 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.5   Maladjusted Mike

      When I was 9 we were expected to spell real good.

      (That was a joke by the way.)

      Mar 7, 2011 at 8:02 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.6   tracie

      shes 9. also 3 yrs abover her avarage. ill pass your comments on. twat.

      Mar 9, 2011 at 2:37 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #16   Nunavut Guy

    Alas,poor Randy,we new him well.Alas so did the kiddie porn flying squad of Sleaford.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 4:59 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #17   Nunavut Guy

    Looks like Daisy was writing this in a pretty stiff westerly wind.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 5:13 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   Mrs.Beasley bang

      Graphologists would say that her downhill slant is a suggestion of depression or discouragement at the time of the writing. I would be more inclined to say that it’s because she’s 9 years old and hasn’t quite gotten her sea legs for written communication.

      Or there’s definitely that stiff westerly wind theory.

      Mar 7, 2011 at 12:20 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #18   se

    @McManus, notice that nobody has branded you as a perv. You are correct, bringing the subject up here as a serious discussion would not be appropriate.
    However, Randy brought the subject up from a decidedly different viewpoint. “we will watch for her underage pornos coming out soon”.
    notice the “we” along with the rest of the statement.
    I agree with CB and Mrazda71.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 6:11 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #19   Canthz_B bang

    Daisy is making poor life-choices and is in danger of becoming a weed in a crack in the sidewalk of life.

    Clean up your room, Daisy…you can do weed, crack and sidewalks when you get older. ;-)

    Mar 6, 2011 at 6:56 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #20   jadefirefly

    You agree with CB?

    I’m gonna make a wild guess here that you didn’t actually read the post.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 7:20 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #21   Canthz_B bang

    Don’t worry, se…I get it. ;-)

    Mar 6, 2011 at 7:36 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #22   Canthz_B bang

    …And so, Josephus Duke, near the end of his sweepstakes-won trip to Great Britain, saw a welcome sight from home…a McDonald’s restaurant. He entered expecting to leave without more than a Quarter-Pounder, fries and an insanely huge beverage, and instead met young Daisy as well.
    They took an immediate liking to one another so, a few altered documents later, he flew her back to The States with him to his home in the American Southlands.
    Daisy Duke is now living comfortably with her “cousins” Beauregard and Lucas and her “Uncle Jessie”.

    Mar 6, 2011 at 7:53 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #22.1   anglophile

      You know, it’s not really all that difficult to fix a car door.

      Mar 7, 2011 at 10:33 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #23   Canthz_B bang

    Leather belt *twitch*…no, i’m fine… really…no memories here…

    Mar 6, 2011 at 11:19 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #24   tinkerbell2

    Seriously.. Randy sees a letter by a kid and his first response is to think of porn? *impounds Randy’s laptop*

    Mar 7, 2011 at 6:52 am   rating: 31  small thumbs up

     
  • #25   Garyy

    OO OO OO, i live in Sleaford, fillets do well nice chips..

    Mar 7, 2011 at 7:24 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #26   Canthz_B bang

    Yeah, Randy was a character actor in “Predator Too”.

    Hi. Have a seat…I’m Chris Hanson…

    Mar 7, 2011 at 8:04 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #27   ariane

    If she doesn’t take some dosh with her when she runs away, they won’t let her stay long at MacD’s or Fillets or anywhere else. You wanna hang there, spend some money, Daisy.

    Also I hope she put it somewhere that Mum saw it before closing time.

    Mar 7, 2011 at 8:27 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #27.1   tracie

      she didnt go. she handed it to me in the house and waited for me to dramatically decline her offer.

      Mar 9, 2011 at 2:42 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #28   TCHICA

    Creepy Randy is Creepy. Also, trollish.

    Mar 7, 2011 at 8:48 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #29   Janellionaire

    My kid tried to run away last week. You would think he could’ve at least gone to the trouble of writing an adorable note so I would have something to submit here. Little punkass. (Although he did write “sorry mom” on the crossword puzzle on my nightstand later. Not worthy of posting, but it’s a step in the right direction at least.)

    Mar 7, 2011 at 9:03 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   KatieMB bang

      From what I know about your kid, you left the runaway note!

      :) <3

      Mar 7, 2011 at 10:23 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #30   anglophile

    Gee, I didn’t thumb Randy’s original comment, because it was a little weak, but now I might go back and rectify that.

    Get a grip, people.

    Mar 7, 2011 at 10:30 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #31   Managed Hosting

    Well, you have to give her a little credit: she did notify her Mum where she would be, instead of causing a serious panic and city-wide search. When I was younger, I would have never given mine the same decency, even though running away is not commendable. I really love the way she ended the note; it’s the most passive-aggressive a nine year old can get, don’t ya think?

    Mar 7, 2011 at 2:14 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #32   Russian

    Well, Mr Hamster, it looks like you’re in good company! Many studies suggest the only thing every psychopath has in common is having been beaten as a child and thinks their parents were right to do so.

    There are other websites where you can glorify child abuse if you so wish :)

    Mar 7, 2011 at 2:16 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #33   Divvitar

    This reminds me of something my younger brother did when he was about 10. Problem was, we lived in Greece at the time, and there weren’t many places to hide on base.

    Mar 7, 2011 at 8:30 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #34   Canthz_B bang

    Isn’t there a difference between child abuse and corporal punishment? Is every bit of physical contact “abuse” to you blowhard weenies?
    My mom spanked…she didn’t beat us up.
    I think she was right to do it, and I’m a good little psychopath because of it too!!

    Mar 7, 2011 at 9:59 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #35   unsatisfied

    this is how it all started for charlie sheen…..

    Mar 7, 2011 at 10:01 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #35.1   se

      yeah, and now he’s a multi-millionaire living with a porn star and an even hotter “nanny”. Also, probably one of the most followed celebrities in Hollywood at the moment.

      Mar 8, 2011 at 7:06 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #36   clumber

    Honestly, I really should have gotten a spanking WAAAAY more than I actually did. I might even venture a 3:1 ratio would have been easily appropriate.

    Though I *AM* still on restriction. When I was in 5th grade I was put on restriction “until you are 50″. A couple years ago I asked my dad if that was still in effect. He asked me to remind him what I did to earn it. I hadn’t even finished reminding him when he interrupted with “YOU SURE AS HELL ARE STILL ON RESTRICTION FOR THAT!”

    Most people think I am anti-social, but no… I am just restricted to coming home immediately after schoolwork and no afterschoolwork activities.

    Mar 7, 2011 at 10:37 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #37   shwo! bang

    Great, the troll comment I was responding to has been deleted, so now my note just looks random and inappropriate. Feh.

    Mar 7, 2011 at 11:01 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #38   Canthz_B bang

    I’ll tell you the truth, I’d have laughed my ass off at a “time out” when I was a kid…but one over-the-phone “I’ll see you when I get home.” from my at-work mom would make me think very seriously about the consequences of my actions!

    Funny thing is, you don’t hear these little bad-ass kids today saying “I can’t do that, my mom’d kill me if she found out.” anymore, now do you?
    Another funny thing is that the prison population is far greater than it used to be as a percentage of population. Not saying there’s anything more than a correlation, but someone may want to study for causality, because “spare the rod, spoil the child” is a very old saying I heard is in a very Good Book.

    Mar 7, 2011 at 11:55 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #39   Russian

    I was hoping to spark a massively angry debate and get the comments closed on this one too. There’s still time… I don’t want to be an earnest Ernest, kill the humour and make everyone puke, but everyone accepts that it’s wrong to control an adult’s actions by hurting them, so why is it considered ok to do it to a child?

    Anyway CB, in my head a belt is definitely child abuse. But I know corporal punishment is a lot more common your side of the Atlantic, so it’s probably a cultural thing too.

    Mar 8, 2011 at 10:23 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #40   GhostWriter bang

    Most spankers were spanked as youths, just as most child abusers were abused as youths. “If it was good enough for me,” is a terrible reason to continue a destructive social practice.

    …and “spare the rod, spoil the child” is just one example of some of Bad Advice offered by the Good Book.

    Mar 8, 2011 at 11:06 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #41   Wench

    ‘most child abusers were abused as youths’ – sorry but that’s actually a myth (I work in mental health with these people so I know what I’m talking about); paedophiles use this as an excuse to rationalise and justify their actions but research has shown that a high percentage of them lie about having been abused (this has been proved with the use of polygram tests, looking into their backgrounds, etc). I agree with the rest of your post, though.

    Mar 8, 2011 at 6:56 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #42   Canthz_B bang

    I’m sorry, but where did I say I spanked? Between my two daughters and two step-sons I gave exactly one spanking…and she never stuck anything in an electrical socket again.
    I don’t see a belt as abuse (I didn’t use a belt BTW) if the belt is properly used. The problem isn’t with the use of force, it’s with the level of force used.
    Firm disciplinarians don’t spank when they are angry and they don’t use spanking as their only punishment tool, bullies spank while angry and are all too often angry.

    There’s a difference and having your child convinced that you’ll put a hurtin’ on him goes a long way when you give him The Look.

    I see kids in public cursing their parents out. You think time-outs are working on that kid? No, he needs a spanking! Running around like wild animals while Mom pleads for them to “Please come back! Don’t embarrass Mommy in the store!” You think time-outs are working? No, those kids need a good spanking so their ears will work right!

    People would very often remark on how well-behaved my children were. I’d thank them, while thinking to myself “Why is that such a remarkable thing? Aren’t yours?”

    Mar 8, 2011 at 8:10 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #43   tracie

    Thats my girl!

    Mar 9, 2011 at 2:29 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #44   tracie

    How proud i am that my daughters light hearted note has sparked such debate. (ehem) for the record she has never been smacked in her life, is a grade a student and plays sports for her county as well as being an awesome person.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 2:32 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #45   tracie

    yeah thanks for that, ill pass your comments onto her. *2mins later* nope she doesnt agree. read my blog and you’ll understand that im prob one of the better mums of the world.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 2:35 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #46   tracie

    yup. thats a nice image for me to be going on with.

    daisy’s mum.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 2:47 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #47   The Elf

    And one of the more modest mums too!

    Mar 9, 2011 at 8:19 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #48   Canthz_B bang

    Good. Because smacking is abusive.

    Mine are college grads, and doing quite nicely thank you.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 8:56 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #49   oi

    You’d think that submitters of PAN of all people would know the character of the website, eh? I mean act of submitting note here indicates at least two things: She visits the site and she had some kind of sense of humor.
    Blindingly clear jokes are also lost on her. :!: :neutral: :!:

    Mar 9, 2011 at 10:53 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #50   Russian

    Ah here Wench. I definitely don’t think it’s ok for an abuser to justify their abuse on the basis that it happened to them. But are you absolutely sure the people you worked with lied about having been abused? Maybe there just wasn’t evidence, or somebody else was lying. I don’t work in the field but have read a fair bit suggesting that childhood abuse (not always sexual) is the most common precursor to becoming an abuser.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 11:00 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #51   unholyghost2003 bang

    Shhhh oi! Just read her blog! You don’t want to piss off one of the better mothers in the world

    Mar 9, 2011 at 11:04 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #52   Russian

    And…. yes Tracie is English…. Smacking is what the Brits and the Irish call spanking, because spanking in those two lonely islands is an *ahem* adults only activity!! Yes I snort to myself whenever anyone mentions spanking kids. and quietly call the authorities.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 11:39 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #53   GhostWriter bang

    Interesting read: “The Extent and Consequences of Child Maltreatment” You may notice on page 50 that a person’s history of abuse as a child is a category used by Washington state in their child abuse risk assessment model.

    Another interesting read: “Long-Term Consequences of Childhood Physical Abuse” Note page 75, which states, “In regard to familial violence, it is estimated that approximately 30% (±5%) of physically abused or neglected individuals abuse their own children (Kaufman & Zigler, 1987; Widom, 1989).

    There is much more research that could be cited, but I am willing to revise my claim from “Most abusers…” to “Many abusers…” if we can also agree to dispell the notion that the familial cycle of child abuse is “actually a myth.”

    Mar 9, 2011 at 12:27 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #54   Tracie

    yup.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 12:32 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #55   Tracie

    wow. just wow.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 12:35 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #56   Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

    I got the joke, Randy. Even if others didn’t.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 12:46 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #57   Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

    You have something very wrong with you.

    Let me break it down for you;

    Runaway girls often end up being exploited by the adult film industry.
    Women in the adult film industry were often abused as children.
    Daisy feels she is being mistreated by being asked to tidy her room.
    Randy is satirising Daisy’s unreasonable feelings of victomhood by comparing Daisy’s perceived mistreatement with the genuine mistreatment suffered by many other children.

    Randy was a little indelicate. You, however, have some part of your brain wired wrong if seeing a joke on an internet comment feed awakens a desire to kill. Please seek help, before one day you accidentally catch sight of a comic book in a supermarket and go on a rampage or something.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 12:51 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #58   Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

    Tracie is definitely just touting for blog views. Also, she’s a bit dim and doesn’t understand humour.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 12:54 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #59   Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

    Kids used to get smacked all the time, and we had an empire then. Then we stopped smacking our kids. Makes you think.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 12:57 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #60   unholyghost2003 bang

    You know, I said the exact same thing

    Mar 9, 2011 at 12:58 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #61   Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

    Also; hats for men went out of fashion. There’s definitely a statistical relationship there. I don’t know what caused the other; if people stopped wearing hats and that caused them to not feel like smacking their kids, which in turn caused the decline in Western civilisation. Or maybe not smacking kids meant that people didn’t feel so much like wearing hats.

    But there’s definitely a link there somewhere.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 12:58 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #62   Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

    Tracie’s lack of capitalisation in her sentences vexes me. It’s a rum state of affairs when your 9-year-old child is more literate than you.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 1:00 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #63   Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

    My brother once ran away from home for a whole Sunday afternoon. I went with him because I was bored. He must have been about 10 and I was about 6 I think. We went to the park, then when we started getting hungry we went home for dinner. Mum hadn’t noticed we were gone. It is pretty disconcerting to run away from home and to find that no one noticed, so ever since that day I have sworn that if I ever run away from home I will leave a note so that people know.

    Mar 9, 2011 at 1:03 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #64   Wench

    @ russian as I said; this issue of paedophiles lying about past abuse has been researched by top clinicians and I remember at the time the results suprised a lot of clinicans. Sometimes people do evil things just because they can. If it’s the case that people who were abused as children will become paedophiles then where are these gangs of women roaming the countryside?

    Mar 9, 2011 at 9:32 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #65   Russian

    I’m going to cut back in, because I realise I’ve been misunderstood and I didn’t mean it to come out like this. My statement was that there’s a strong body of evidence indicating that psychopaths were almost always abused as children. I intended in no way to imply that childhood abuse must lead to psychopathology. Far more often, it appears to lead to chronic illness (the grown-up abused child refuses to blame their parents for hurting them, and instead takes it out on others or most commonly themselves). My logic was, abusers were abused. Not, and never, abused become abusers.

    Wench, I didn’t mean exclusively paedophiles, or even at all. I was referring primarily to physical abuse, also emotional and yes sexual. I think on reflection that your paedophiles were being disingenous, because the kind of ‘abuser-created-by-abuse’ personality I’m referring to would NEVER try to excuse themselves on the grounds of past abuse. They would be trying desperately to justify their abusers’ actions and would not believe that they had been mistreated. Still I believe that there may have been less concrete abuse in their past, particularly emotional for which the evidence is less obvious. Again, sexual abuse wasn’t what I was thinking of in the beginning. But see http://www.alice-miller.com/index_en.php for a more intelligent explanation of my logic.

    And yes… I killed the funny. Sorry guys, it’s just a topic that resonates pretty deeply with me.

    Mar 10, 2011 at 8:53 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     

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