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		<title>By: Russian</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2011/03/06/see-you-never-again-in-my-life/comment-page-2/#comment-383628</link>
		<dc:creator>Russian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to cut back in, because I realise I&#039;ve been misunderstood and I didn&#039;t mean it to come out like this. My statement was that there&#039;s a strong body of evidence indicating that psychopaths were almost always abused as children. I intended in no way to imply that childhood abuse must lead to psychopathology. Far more often, it appears to lead to chronic illness (the grown-up abused child refuses to blame their parents for hurting them, and instead takes it out on others or most commonly themselves). My logic was, abusers were abused. Not, and never, abused become abusers. 

Wench, I didn&#039;t mean exclusively paedophiles, or even at all. I was referring primarily to physical abuse, also emotional and yes sexual. I think on reflection that your paedophiles were being disingenous, because the kind of &#039;abuser-created-by-abuse&#039; personality I&#039;m referring to would NEVER try to excuse themselves on the grounds of past abuse. They would be trying desperately to justify their abusers&#039; actions and would not believe that they had been mistreated. Still I believe that there may have been less concrete abuse in their past, particularly emotional for which the evidence is less obvious. Again, sexual abuse wasn&#039;t what I was thinking of in the beginning. But see http://www.alice-miller.com/index_en.php for a more intelligent explanation of my logic. 

And yes... I killed the funny. Sorry guys, it&#039;s just a topic that resonates pretty deeply with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to cut back in, because I realise I&#8217;ve been misunderstood and I didn&#8217;t mean it to come out like this. My statement was that there&#8217;s a strong body of evidence indicating that psychopaths were almost always abused as children. I intended in no way to imply that childhood abuse must lead to psychopathology. Far more often, it appears to lead to chronic illness (the grown-up abused child refuses to blame their parents for hurting them, and instead takes it out on others or most commonly themselves). My logic was, abusers were abused. Not, and never, abused become abusers. </p>
<p>Wench, I didn&#8217;t mean exclusively paedophiles, or even at all. I was referring primarily to physical abuse, also emotional and yes sexual. I think on reflection that your paedophiles were being disingenous, because the kind of &#8216;abuser-created-by-abuse&#8217; personality I&#8217;m referring to would NEVER try to excuse themselves on the grounds of past abuse. They would be trying desperately to justify their abusers&#8217; actions and would not believe that they had been mistreated. Still I believe that there may have been less concrete abuse in their past, particularly emotional for which the evidence is less obvious. Again, sexual abuse wasn&#8217;t what I was thinking of in the beginning. But see <a href="http://www.alice-miller.com/index_en.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.alice-miller.com/index_en.php</a> for a more intelligent explanation of my logic. </p>
<p>And yes&#8230; I killed the funny. Sorry guys, it&#8217;s just a topic that resonates pretty deeply with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Wench</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ russian as I said; this issue of paedophiles lying about past abuse has been researched by top clinicians and I remember at the time the results suprised a lot of clinicans.  Sometimes people do evil things just because they can.  If it&#039;s the case that people who were abused as children will become paedophiles then where are these gangs of women roaming the countryside?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ russian as I said; this issue of paedophiles lying about past abuse has been researched by top clinicians and I remember at the time the results suprised a lot of clinicans.  Sometimes people do evil things just because they can.  If it&#8217;s the case that people who were abused as children will become paedophiles then where are these gangs of women roaming the countryside?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2011/03/06/see-you-never-again-in-my-life/comment-page-2/#comment-383560</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brother once ran away from home for a whole Sunday afternoon.  I went with him because I was bored.  He must have been about 10 and I was about 6 I think.  We went to the park, then when we started getting hungry we went home for dinner.  Mum hadn&#039;t noticed we were gone.  It is pretty disconcerting to run away from home and to find that no one noticed, so ever since that day I have sworn that if I ever run away from home I will leave a note so that people know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother once ran away from home for a whole Sunday afternoon.  I went with him because I was bored.  He must have been about 10 and I was about 6 I think.  We went to the park, then when we started getting hungry we went home for dinner.  Mum hadn&#8217;t noticed we were gone.  It is pretty disconcerting to run away from home and to find that no one noticed, so ever since that day I have sworn that if I ever run away from home I will leave a note so that people know.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2011/03/06/see-you-never-again-in-my-life/comment-page-2/#comment-383559</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracie&#039;s lack of capitalisation in her sentences vexes me.  It&#039;s a rum state of affairs when your 9-year-old child is more literate than you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracie&#8217;s lack of capitalisation in her sentences vexes me.  It&#8217;s a rum state of affairs when your 9-year-old child is more literate than you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2011/03/06/see-you-never-again-in-my-life/comment-page-2/#comment-383558</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also; hats for men went out of fashion.  There&#039;s definitely a statistical relationship there.  I don&#039;t know what caused the other; if people stopped wearing hats and that caused them to not feel like smacking their kids, which in turn caused the decline in Western civilisation.  Or maybe not smacking kids meant that people didn&#039;t feel so much like wearing hats.

But there&#039;s definitely a link there somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also; hats for men went out of fashion.  There&#8217;s definitely a statistical relationship there.  I don&#8217;t know what caused the other; if people stopped wearing hats and that caused them to not feel like smacking their kids, which in turn caused the decline in Western civilisation.  Or maybe not smacking kids meant that people didn&#8217;t feel so much like wearing hats.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s definitely a link there somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: unholyghost2003</title>
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		<dc:creator>unholyghost2003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I said the &lt;i&gt;exact same thing &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I said the <i>exact same thing </i></p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2011/03/06/see-you-never-again-in-my-life/comment-page-2/#comment-383555</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids used to get smacked all the time, and we had an empire then.  Then we stopped smacking our kids.  Makes you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids used to get smacked all the time, and we had an empire then.  Then we stopped smacking our kids.  Makes you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2011/03/06/see-you-never-again-in-my-life/comment-page-2/#comment-383554</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracie is definitely just touting for blog views.  Also, she&#039;s a bit dim and doesn&#039;t understand humour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracie is definitely just touting for blog views.  Also, she&#8217;s a bit dim and doesn&#8217;t understand humour.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2011/03/06/see-you-never-again-in-my-life/comment-page-2/#comment-383552</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have something very wrong with you. 

Let me break it down for you;

Runaway girls often end up being exploited by the adult film industry.
Women in the adult film industry were often abused as children.
Daisy feels she is being mistreated by being asked to tidy her room.
Randy is satirising Daisy&#039;s unreasonable feelings of victomhood by comparing Daisy&#039;s perceived mistreatement with the genuine mistreatment suffered by many other children.

Randy was a little indelicate.  You, however, have some part of your brain wired wrong if seeing a joke on an internet comment feed awakens a desire to kill.  Please seek help, before one day you accidentally catch sight of a comic book in a supermarket and go on a rampage or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have something very wrong with you. </p>
<p>Let me break it down for you;</p>
<p>Runaway girls often end up being exploited by the adult film industry.<br />
Women in the adult film industry were often abused as children.<br />
Daisy feels she is being mistreated by being asked to tidy her room.<br />
Randy is satirising Daisy&#8217;s unreasonable feelings of victomhood by comparing Daisy&#8217;s perceived mistreatement with the genuine mistreatment suffered by many other children.</p>
<p>Randy was a little indelicate.  You, however, have some part of your brain wired wrong if seeing a joke on an internet comment feed awakens a desire to kill.  Please seek help, before one day you accidentally catch sight of a comic book in a supermarket and go on a rampage or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2011/03/06/see-you-never-again-in-my-life/comment-page-2/#comment-383551</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the joke, Randy.  Even if others didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the joke, Randy.  Even if others didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracie</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2011/03/06/see-you-never-again-in-my-life/comment-page-2/#comment-383549</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. just wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. just wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracie</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2011/03/06/see-you-never-again-in-my-life/comment-page-2/#comment-383548</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yup.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can assure you she didnt reach the door despite it being a nice area :)

daisys mum
x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can assure you she didnt reach the door despite it being a nice area <img src='http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>daisys mum<br />
x</p>
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		<title>By: GhostWriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>GhostWriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting read: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.princeton.edu/futureofchildren/publications/docs/08_01_02.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;The Extent and Consequences of Child Maltreatment&quot;&lt;/a&gt;  You may notice on page 50 that a person&#039;s history of abuse as a child is a category used by Washington state in their child abuse risk assessment model.

Another interesting read: &lt;a href=&quot;http://66.199.228.237/boundary/Childhood_trauma_and_PTSD/long_term_consequences_of_childhood_abuse.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Long-Term Consequences of Childhood Physical Abuse&quot;&lt;/a&gt; Note page 75, which states, &quot;In regard to familial violence, it is estimated that approximately 30% (±5%) of physically abused or neglected individuals abuse their own children (Kaufman &amp; Zigler, 1987; Widom, 1989).

There is much more research that could be cited, but I am willing to revise my claim from &quot;&lt;i&gt;Most&lt;/i&gt; abusers...&quot; to &quot;&lt;i&gt;Many&lt;/i&gt; abusers...&quot; if we can also agree to dispell the notion that the familial cycle of child abuse is &quot;&lt;i&gt;actually a myth&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting read: <a href="http://www.princeton.edu/futureofchildren/publications/docs/08_01_02.pdf" rel="nofollow">&#8220;The Extent and Consequences of Child Maltreatment&#8221;</a>  You may notice on page 50 that a person&#8217;s history of abuse as a child is a category used by Washington state in their child abuse risk assessment model.</p>
<p>Another interesting read: <a href="http://66.199.228.237/boundary/Childhood_trauma_and_PTSD/long_term_consequences_of_childhood_abuse.pdf" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Long-Term Consequences of Childhood Physical Abuse&#8221;</a> Note page 75, which states, &#8220;In regard to familial violence, it is estimated that approximately 30% (±5%) of physically abused or neglected individuals abuse their own children (Kaufman &amp; Zigler, 1987; Widom, 1989).</p>
<p>There is much more research that could be cited, but I am willing to revise my claim from &#8220;<i>Most</i> abusers&#8230;&#8221; to &#8220;<i>Many</i> abusers&#8230;&#8221; if we can also agree to dispell the notion that the familial cycle of child abuse is &#8220;<i>actually a myth</i>.&#8221;</p>
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