Lord of the Laundry Room

June 21st, 2011 · 298 comments

I’m probably more than a little biased when it comes to determining whether or not Alan in Seattle — the writer of the note below and self-appointed Lord of the Laundry Room — is, in fact, an ass.

For one, even though I know the scent of fresh laundry is actually thanks to evil chemical compounds and not “mountain breeze” or “spring rain,” I still kinda love it. Of course, I don’t live in an apartment directly above a laundry room. Instead, I live in an apartment surrounded by chain smokers. And while I hardly enjoy the smell of cigarettes, I’ve managed to deal without threatening to confiscate my neighbors’ Marlboros and replace them with bottles of bubble solution. (I also keep my windows shut.)

What say you, troublemakers? Is Alan wrong? Or is he just an asshole?

Hello all...I am again asking for everyone to discontinue using any scented products in the laundry room. I live right above and the laundry room and the synthetic cheap

related: You’re not wrong, Walter

FILED UNDER: ellipses-crazed · laundry · neighbors · odor · Seattle

298 responses so far ↓

  • #1   47of74 bang

    Maybe I am an ass???? Computer says yes!

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   JetJackson

      Assume this is from Family Fued… because they used to say on the Aussie version at least. “Survey says… “

      Jun 21, 2011 at 11:01 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.2   imashelcha

      Nope, it’s from Little Britain.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 2:07 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.3   TickleMyBambo

      I think that “Asscanoe” is a word that fits Alan perfectly.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:45 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.4   Kathleen

      If you have to ask if you’re being an ass, rest assured; you’re being an ass. Ass.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 9:26 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.5   dissipatedfog bang

      For some reason this one is more annoying to me than most. I was thinking about it today and would LOVE it if the submitter printed these comments and put them up next to his note. No maybe about it, he’s an ass.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 2:18 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.6   Maryann

      No, no, you’ve got it all wrong! Alan is not an ass, he is the One we’ve sought for so long!

      Finally! Oh, finally! How I’ve waited! How I’ve longed! The One! His name is Alan and he lives in an apartment over a laundry room! All hail the Great and Powerful ALAN, our lord and master!

      He is the one person out of six billion around whom the world revolves.

      And, surely, the world must revolve around a man who moves into an apartment above a laundry room even though he is sensitive to artificial fragrances and goes to bed early, and who utterly fails to anticipate that living above a laundry room might result in smell and noise, and yet who has the power to command all his neighbors to accommodate his personal preferences.

      Jul 18, 2011 at 9:55 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #2   Erin

    Request a different apartment already! Jesus.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:25 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   angie

      Totally. if it’s bothering you that much, move into another apartment in the complex when one opens up.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 1:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.2   Kate from Iowa

      Particularly if your complaint extends to use of the damned machines themselves. Hey guess what, jerk? Some people work late. Other people may have used the machines earlier in the day, making it necessary for one or more of your neighbors to…*gasp* use the machines later! Someone could have been sick in the night. What gives you the right to stop their machine (wasting even more of thier money, since you threw thier detergent and fabric softener away?)

      People like this need thier own damned house.

      Jun 24, 2011 at 2:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.3   Olivia

      I don’t think Alan needs his own house…. I think he needs his own island. Seriously some people just need to learn what community living is, clearly to this fellow it’s following every particular need he has and not learning to compromise with others….

      Jun 24, 2011 at 5:30 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.4   Rhoddy

      Hm, ‘request another flat already’ did get me thinking… what if he owns the place? If this is a mixed tenure block, or a block of homeowners, it is possible that their capital leases or strata agreements say that the laundry room is out of bounds after hours (or even that people shouldn’t cause noise after hours). That theory discounted he remains a massive knob, but the thought crossed my mind.

      Jun 26, 2011 at 10:18 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.5   (another) Jessica

      DAMMIT! I moved out of my super cheap apartment right by the interstate; now I realize I should have just written a note to all of the truckers requesting that they either slow down to 35 after ten pm or accept my retaliation of littering the highway with rusty nails.


      Jun 29, 2011 at 10:27 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.6   Maryann


      You’re suggesting that the one person who’d have the pick of all the apartments would choose to live over the laundry room?

      Uh uh. A landlord who’d have Alan’s problems would choose an apartment as far from the laundry room as possible and foist the crappy cubicle off on someone else.

      Jul 18, 2011 at 10:01 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #3   angela

    Alan’s lucky he’s NOT my neighbor.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:26 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #4   Lindsey

    This would only make the child in me put 1 sock and 1 box of heavily scented (and cheap!) fabric softener in each dryer at 10:30PM. Better yet, maybe a box of fabric softener sheets and a can of tennis balls! Alan, you ARE an ass!!

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:27 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   tishi

      throw in a handful of pennies for me, will ya?!

      Jun 21, 2011 at 8:51 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.2   ML

      AND be tempted to superglue the door shut after doing the above. And to be honest, he is such an ass that I would be tempted to make him my regular project until he moved to a building with laundry not directly under his apartment.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 9:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.3   sunshine

      Me too! I would use nothing but Suavitel!

      Jun 21, 2011 at 9:31 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.4   FeRD bang

      Ack! That stuff is chemical warfare! Kinda cruel, even for an ass like Alan.

      I don’t know if it’s necessary that we take this straight to DEFCON 1. At least fire warning load across his bow, first.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 10:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.5   AuntyBron

      Rub the sock and tennis balls in poo just so he can get a “natural scent”…

      Jun 21, 2011 at 11:47 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.6   AuntyBron

      @FeRD- The jackass isn’t sure if he is a jackass. A warning shot would be meaningless. Go for the kill, baby.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 11:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.7   OhJessie

      Yep – he’s an asshole – shutting down machines, throwing out people’s property?? What gives him any right?

      Load up the stinky products, run it at 10:30 AND throw in tennis balls and pennies. I would.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 2:42 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.8   Rattus

      Okay, he may be an ass, but I find myself reluctantly joining Team Alan. That stuff that most people do their laundry with is toxic and smells vile and I wouldn’t want to live with it either. I would probably go to management, though, and try to have them do something about it. Or move. One really can’t stop people from ruining the environment, large or small scale, just because one objects.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 7:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.9   Belinda

      I’m for sure with Team Alan on this one. I have asthma and severe allergies and the scents they put in laundry supplies literally make it hard for me to breathe.
      I’m surprised more people don’t get that. I wonder if their noses are broken when I smell the things they buy voluntarily. . .

      Jun 22, 2011 at 11:17 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.10   FeRD bang

      @AuntyBron: Yes, you’re undoubtedly quite right about the pointlessness of the metered approach, when it comes to maybe-I-am-an-ass-Alan.

      But, still… have you ever smelled Suavitel? Some things just should never be considered, even in wartime. That’s why we have the Hague Conventions and the Geneva Protocol! (Which, if they don’t mention Suavitel by name, must certainly contain general prohibitions against such substances.)

      Jun 22, 2011 at 12:17 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.11   lagne

      I’m “for” everyone with allergies; it must be frustrating and uncomfortable. I have seasonal allergies, and when they flare up, it interferes with my whole life.

      But you do realize, right, that being “Team Alan” means you’re not just “for” people with allergies/sensitivities, but “for” stealing other peoples’ laundry supplies and interfering with their lives by sabotaging their laundry? placing responsibility on other people to change their reasonable habits to accommodate your allergies, instead of accommodating your OWN allergies by not choosing an apartment that shares a wall/floor with a laundry room?

      I’m “for” Alan’s sensitivities; I’m so not “for” Alan expecting the world to revolve around his sensitivities.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 2:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.12   wax lion

      Yeah, come on. If you’re that bothered by artificial scents, then why take the apartment over a laundry room? And turning off the laundry machines after 10:30?? What about all of us who work odd hours and can’t do our laundry early–or can’t get an open machine until the late evening?

      My last apartment, I lived over the boiler room. Not only was the apartment painfully hot all winter, but the pipes clanked at all hours. Did I tell everyone in the building they should shut off their heat after 10:30 so I could sleep? Alan’s an ass.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 9:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.13   clever name

      I got to agree with him, I don’t get people that want to smell like a cheap chemical dump and give everyone else a headache. Also, when you put that much fabric softer on your clothes they feel gummy and make your skin look like a greased pig. And it’s bad for your skin, so….Keep smelling “clean” I guess!

      Jun 23, 2011 at 10:12 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.14   bookworm

      I am on Team Alan Knew About His Allergies Before He Moved in Directly Above a Laundry Room, and if Alan doesn’t like it, he can move right back out. It is NOT the rest of the world’s responsibility to cater to his whims just because he has allergies, it is HIS responsibility, seeing as how HE is the only one suffering from this (so far).

      Jun 23, 2011 at 11:55 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #5   Sliverbane

    Perhaps a ventilation duct is broken and needs to be fixed? Oops, wait its much easier to tell everyone in my building to not use products they bought on their clothes….my bad.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #6   Abby

    What an asshole. He has no right to demand or throw away other people laundry detergent. Maybe he should ask his apartment manager if he can move to a different apartment when the next one is vacated. If he can’t handle scented laundry products he should not be living in an apartment with shared laundry.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:30 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   olin the gray

      Your suggestions are entirely too reasonable to be considered by someone such as this guy. I share his extreme dislike of laundry smells (especially dryer sheets) but he has lost his perspective.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 10:58 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.2   The Elf

      If dryer sheets motivate him to PAN, what would patchouli incense do?

      Jun 22, 2011 at 6:09 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.3   Quite Contrary

      Neighbor friendly products! The latest in detergent marketing.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 5:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.4   Pablo

      But, but…if he changed apartments then he would have to walk further to do his laundry!!

      Dude needs a house.

      Jun 26, 2011 at 2:52 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #7   Tracy

    Alan please move …. Oh and yes , you are an ass…. I will make sure I buy the most smelliest soaps and start my laundry at 9:55 pm ! Sincerely ….. Am I being an ass? Lol

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #8   Jake

    Um, yeah, it sure seems like moving would be in order.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.1   lagne

      Yep.. either Alan, or all his neighbors to get away from his assy ass.

      This is definitely a management issue (if it HAS to be), not a “rearrange your laundry habits to accommodate the fact that laundry smells happen to get into my apartment” issue. For most people, I’d think it’d be an “oh well, I get laundry smells in my apartment.. what’s on TV?” issue. At least, it would be for me. But I love clean laundry smells.

      If he turned off my washer/dryer? Bitch, please.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 8:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.2   TickleMyBambo

      I used to live in a complex where my downstairs neighbors NEVER showered nor did their laundry. And my goodness, they never even cleaned their apartment and it smelled horrible! Like someones septic tank flooded and body odor wrapped in bacon. I couldn’t open my door and windows, shit I couldn’t go down the stairs and past their door without almost dying of asphyxiation cause the smell was that pungent. My manager did nothing no matter how much I complained, and my neighbors told me to fuck off after I went down there to voice to them my displeasure with their nasty smell (that was also how I know they don’t keep it clean). I learned quickly that my complaints will fall on deaf ears and decided that instead of fighting it, I was better off finding the next best place and moving out ASAP. I am currently living in an apartment with no nasty odor, a good manager and neighbors, and I am much happier now than I was there.

      Alan needs to get off his royal jewel covered laundry basket and realize there are bigger and more important things to complain about than the smell of laundry detergent. Seriously, shut the fuck up Alan cause the smell of cheap laundry detergent is NOTHING compared to having to endure the god awful smells that I was exposed to. Once you move out, I call dibs to your old apartment!

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:06 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.3   thisandthat

      Points to you both for “Bitch, please,” and “body odor wrapped in bacon.” Team Suavitel.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 10:51 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.4   Citrico

      lagne: Some people do have allergies or whatnot related to these laundry items, so for them (and myself) it wouldn’t be as simple as oh well. I can’t even walk down the detergent aisle in a grocery store without getting a massive headache – which is why, even as a single guy, I buy MASSIVE jugs of scent-free detergent to avoid going down that aisle too frequently. Once, my clothes were accidentally washed in scented detergent, and I had to re-wash them three times before they were wearable. So yeah, for you it might not be a big deal, but if you are sensitive to the shit perfumes they coat this crap with, it’s a huge deal.

      That said, I’d be bothering management for a dryer vent repair rather than harassing people, but don’t pretend it isn’t a big issue for some of us. A giant shit smells way better than the smell of scented laundry detergent for us, and there would be nothing worse than living somewhere that smelled of an noxious chemical concoction some people call “clean laundry”.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 11:55 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.5   lagne

      I’m not at all saying it’s not a big issue for some people; notice I said “MOST people” would consider it a small/non-issue, which is true. You and I agree on the fact that this is an issue to be resolved by management, not by assing up your neighbors. ;-)

      Jun 22, 2011 at 2:27 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.6   zomboid

      @citrico: and some people have allergies to animals, they would get similarly little sympathy if they rented an apartment above a pet shop….

      Jun 22, 2011 at 2:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.7   clever name

      He did not rent an apartment over a launderette though, so how does that apply? He is not allergic to laundry, just people that use the ultra scented stuff. My friend explained it was a cultural thing….I guess, maybe he should move where there are a lot of Asians? Food in those areas is always much better anyways….

      Jun 23, 2011 at 10:16 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.8   bookworm

      But Lagne: if this WERE an issue for you, why would you move into an apartment DIRECTLY ABOVE a laundry room? Seems to me as if Alan picked that location BECAUSE he wanted to be able to kick up a big fuss about it.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 11:59 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.9   lagne

      Exactly, Bookworm.. Either way, Alan’s a big ol’ ass. If he’s gonna try to pick a fight with someone, it’s marginally more logical for him to ask management to fix the issue. One could at least argue that management taking steps to fix the issue increases the rentability of that particular apartment, since the world is full of asses and God forbid another Alan move in, y’know? ;-)

      Jun 23, 2011 at 3:07 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.10   TickleMyBambo

      While I truly sympathize people who truly do have allergies to fragrances and detergents, my problem here is..Where does it say that Alan has allergies? Cause some people see, to have this idea that because he can’t stand the smell of cheap detergent that he is somehow automatically allergic to it. If he did have an allergy, don’t you think he would have mentioned it in his note? “Hey living above the laundry room is KILLING me because I’m ALLERGIC to cheap detergent!” but he didn’t so that makes me, and a many others, come to the conclusion that Alan is acting like a stuck up, whiny, ass for the sake of being an ass as well as getting his kicks at being a control freak. Anyone with allergies should have enough common sense to get away from the things and environments that would naturally trigger an allergic reaction. Alan is not allergic nor does he have any common sense. And that, my friends, is what makes Alan an ass!

      Jun 24, 2011 at 12:08 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.11   Suzanne

      Exactly! People are assuming he’s allergic when it reads more than he just hates the smell and wants to bitch about it. Given the tone of the letter, if he were allergic, he’d most likely let EVERYONE know.

      Jul 2, 2011 at 4:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #9   jenny

    he’s an ass.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #10   Precious&Reckless

    Sorry, he’s an ass. I for one love the smell of Gain laundry detergent. Sorry you don’t like it, I don’t like when my neighbors dog sh-ts on the tree in front of my apartment, leaves it there to bake in the sun, and allow the fumes to waft into my living room. But I deal with it as should you. You’re not allergic, the smell is not causing you to vomit or convulse or become short of breath so deal with it, Princess. Or, ask to switch apartments so you’re not above the laundry room. Get over it.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:37 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   Garry

      I like the smell of Gain too, but All makes me angry. Maybe his neighbors were using foul detergent. He could ask them to switch to Island Fresh Gain like I did.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 9:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.2   TickleMyBambo

      I have a feeling that because of his bias against any detergent that has a scent, Alan’s clothes smell like dish soap and sweaty armpit odor. No wonder why he’s pissy, nobody wants to go near him cause of his funky smelling clothes that lack that “air fresh” coming straight out of the drier scent. Then again, his diva like attitude is enough of a deterrent to warrant people not to like nor go near him.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.3   The Elf

      I can’t use scented laundry products because of a skin allergy, and I really miss them! I never went overboard, either, just a little Bounce in the dryer. If they ever make detergent/dryer sheets with natural scents, I’ll be all over that. Even if it costs a lot more. My clothes don’t stink – detergent gets them clean – but they just don’t have that “fresh laundry” smell.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 6:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.4   SuperFoose

      Yeah, I wouldn’t give up my Gain for anything. I even have Gain scented air fresheners (just as amazing as they sound, by the way).

      Jun 22, 2011 at 10:55 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.5   Citrico

      Gain gives me a pounding headache. Can’t even be in the same aisle in the grocery store. I hate how people assume their rank laundry smells wonderful to everyone.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.6   The Elf

      I don’t think people assume that their laundry smells wonderful to everyone. It just smells wonderful to them. And they are the ones wearing the clothes/sleeping in the sheets.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 12:21 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.7   lagne

      Citroco, relax. Nobody said “MY LAUNDRY SMELLS FUCKING DELICIOUS, AND IF YOU DISAGREE, YOU’RE A MORON WITH NO NOSE, OR JUST A STUPID NOSE!” Maybe you shouldn’t take things so personally.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 2:31 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.8   Cate

      Yeah, but your neighbors not picking up their dog’s crap is something you can complain about reasonably. A lot of cities will give you a fine for that crap. No pun intended. You could look up your municipality’s laws. I always pick up after my dog, because it’s jerks that don’t that get responsible owners banned from parks and beaches. >:( Makes me mad just thinking about it. If you don’t like cleaning dog poop, don’t own a dog, jeez!
      Anyways, Alan is being unreasonable. If he has bad allergies, he could tell people that and hope that they will be sympathetic, but instead he’s taken a hostile approach which will not work well with a lot of people and they’ll use their detergents to be spiteful. Like others have said, he should talk to management about moving instead of expecting the entire apartment complex to bend to his will. He sounds like an uptight Seattleite.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.9   edie b.

      Hey, The Elf — if you live by a Trader Joe’s, they have great dryer bags that are filled with nothing but lavender. It’s all natural and smells great (to me, at least). After you use each bag a few times you can sprinkle it on the carpet before vacuuming.

      I agree with Alan that most synthetic laundry/soap smells are overwhelming, but why did he choose an apartment directly over a laundry room? It’s like he wanted to be a martyr.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 8:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.10   The Elf

      Thanks for the tip!

      Jun 23, 2011 at 8:22 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.11   mystic_eye_cda

      The Elf:

      Also they make wool balls that prevent static (and are reusable) and you can sprinkle essential oils on them. As an added bonus they’re supposed to make your clothes dry faster. (Or apparently you can just make your own, but you can get them from places like etsy, crafty stores. )

      Jun 27, 2011 at 4:59 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.12   Maryann

      I absolutely detest the scent of lavender. Just sayin’. It’s one of the most popular scents there are, so no one scent is going to please everyone.

      If you’re going to live over a laundry room, you’d better be ready for anything.

      Jul 18, 2011 at 10:11 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #11   Swaggyp

    Yep. Hey asshole buy a house and you won’t have this issue.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:37 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #12   Dawn

    Definitely an ass. He doesn’t own the launry room.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #13   j

    wtf? he is out of his mind

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #14   katie_2256

    Pretty sure you can’t just throw away someone’s possessions, or shut off the dryer just ‘cos it’s bugging you. Definitely understand where he’s coming from, but I hate people who think they have the right to do jerky stuff back.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   bookworm

      Doing jerky stuff back implies that the neighbors were somehow acting jerky by doing their laundry in their shared laundry room in the first place. Alan is the only jerk here.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 12:01 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

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    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #16   dissipatedfog

    He’s an ass. If he’s the building manager, then he’s an ass who has a little bit of power that’s gone to his head. Actually he better be the manager if he thinks he can shut the laundry room at any time he wants. If you live in an apartment building you WILL be inconvenienced about something at some point and that’s life, so suck it up.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #16.1   lagne

      When I read this comment, I needed to scroll up a bit, and all I could see was “If he’s the building manager, then he’s an ass who has a little -”

      and I really thought the next word was gonna be “dick.”

      and I think it’s probably true.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 9:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #16.2   dissipatedfog

      I meant dick.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 2:11 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #17   jen

    dude, you need to move to a different apartment.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #18   betsy

    he’s an ass. he probably smells like ass as well.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   AuntyBron

      Well, of course, dear. It’s been established that he doesn’t like artificial smells. One presumes that includes things like soap and deodorant.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 11:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #19   mennorose

    I’m gonna go with “he’s an ass” unless he actually has chemical allergies that make him sick. (There are many people for whom that’s the case.) But if he has allergies, he should tell people that rather than just complain about the smell. And maybe not live above the laundry room to start with….

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:48 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.1   tishi

      if he has chemical allergies, then he is STILL AN ASS, cause he should have known better than to move in ABOVE A LAUNDRY…

      Jun 21, 2011 at 8:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.2   EmKitteh

      I agree with tishi. I actually am allergic to perfumes. They give me terrible migraines. So I don’t use perfumed things. Does it bother me when other people use perfumes? Of course it does! But I have no delusions that other people’s use of perfumes is within my circle of influence.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 10:02 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.3   Sean Jungian

      While I do think this guy is an ass, I also find myself having a tiny bit of sympathy for his cause. I don’t think it justifies the p/a demands for everyone to use unscented laundry products – in fact, that demand makes me laugh. But it’s true that all those competing scent chemicals can be overwhelming and make you feel like you’re breathing in poison gas.

      Most shared-laundry apartments I’ve lived in have had a “no laundry after 10 pm” policy. In one Seattle building I lived in, we even had to sign up for laundry time during the week!

      Still, dude – move already. We all make adjustments in order to have the benefits of living in a society. That does not include making an entire apartment population follow your laundry rules.

      Although I bet if he were to provide scent-free products in the laundry, everyone would use them.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 7:38 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #20   anon

    I would love to live in that apartment.. constantly smelling nice clean laundry smells. Like alot of the people I’d be pretty tempted to spend a few bucks on the cheapest most fragrant stuff and start up the laundry at 10:30 :p

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   tishi

      i love laundry/dryer smells… and suavitel is too strong for me…
      hell, i leave the window open so the dryer vent downstairs can waft into the living rm…

      Jun 21, 2011 at 8:57 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #21   Mrs.Beasley bang

    Wait… what??!!

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #22   Divvitar

    This ass needs to buy a house.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #23   tishi

    he is an ass… and that is like moving in by train tracks, then being pissed that ppl have the nerve to take the train!

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #23.1   Danny

      Please stop taking the train, or I will rent a gas-powered concrete saw and cut the rail out at 10 PM. I’ll reimburse you for the cost of your ticket so you can put it toward another one at a time which is more inconvenient for you than for me.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 9:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #23.2   The Elf

      We had a problem with a group of homeowners who complained about a nearby rifle and skeet range. The range had been there for twenty years, back when the area was undeveloped. Someone decided to build houses nearby, people moved into them, then they complained about the sound of gunfire and managed to get the range shut down. Amazing! Don’t like the sound of gunfire, don’t move next to a rifle range! Don’t like airplanes overhead? Don’t move to a house in a flight path! Don’t like the smell of laundry detergents? Don’t live above the laundry room! I don’t like to hear lots of traffic, so I chose a house off the main drag. Simple logic.

      It would be different if the move predated the laundry room, but I seriously doubt that is the case.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 9:26 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #24   MissKitty


    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #25   AMoparGirl

    I’d say put nothing but a whole box of dryer sheets in after 10. That’d be a quiet load.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:52 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #26   braedyn

    Welcome to apartment living, alan.
    (Who obviously doesn’t think highly enough of himself to capitalise his own name.)

    Jun 21, 2011 at 8:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #27   Chicon

    He’s an ass. Full stop. I am allergic to the fragrance additive that’s in everything, so scented detergent/fabric softener is high on the list of things I avoid. I wouldn’t dream of asking everyone in my small complex to adjust their personal behaviors because of my problem. I would, however, consider not accepting an apartment over the laundry in the first place. Or explaining to management when signing the lease that I would need to move to the next open apartment as soon as one became available. This guy is ridiculous.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:00 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #27.1   Who passed out the Haterade?

      Amen on all of the above, though it’s not an allergy per se – it’s just that most perfumes and detergent perfumes give me a migraine.

      However. With all due respect, the people who are talking about how they would go far out of their way to make his life more miserable, 1) are missing the point – he does pretty good at that task all by himself, and 2) are being even bigger assholes than he is. You think he’s being PA, and therefore your response will be to get far more PA with a motive of “because it makes me happy to make him miserable” versus a motive of “because everyone should do what I want”? Do you honestly think that makes you a better person than him?

      If I could stand the scent of detergent perfumes and wanted to use them, I would simply take my laptop with me and work while I do my laundry, at a reasonable hour. I’d pretty much dare his PA ass to frickin’ touch it. And if he does, I’d be more than happy to introduce him to the Seattle PD, who take a dim view on theft and destruction of property.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 5:03 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #28   Hannah

    He’s so wrong. Laundry is not an offensive smell. Alan should seek psychological help.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:03 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #28.1   Who passed out the Haterade?

      Laundry is not an offensive smell. In fact, it smells quite nice to have perfume-free fresh clothing.

      Perfume, on the other hand, is offensive to many of us – because not everyone’s olfactory senses work the same way. What you perceive as a mild pleasant smell, we perceive as you being drenched in an odor so strong that it can give us migraines from sensory overload. Try working with ammonia in an enclosed space , and you’ll understand why we object.

      If your detergent is actually getting your clothes clean, why do they need to permeate your clothes with perfume? Try using scentless detergents for a while, and you’ll realize which ones really do get your clothes clean… and which ones just layer perfume onto funk.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 5:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #28.2   Agi

      Yeah, you’re right. Because everyone knows humans have a natural instinct that tells them ‘WATCH OUT! THIS ABSOLUTE STRANGER HAS PROBLEMS WITH SCENTS!’ Sorry if some of us don’t automatically know what your health problems are.
      Besides, If you have to work with/live by/deal frequently with someone who DOES wear alot of perfumes then how ’bout you tell them nicely about your problems and they may actually change something. Oh I’m sorry, they should already be catering to you; remember the whole instinct thing?

      Jun 28, 2011 at 2:40 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #28.3   Nicole

      i’ve tried using scentless detergents and realized which ones clean my clothes of stains, dirt, and odor, and yet leave a wet rag smell, even after running through the dryer immediately.

      you know, i put lavender oil at my pressure points after a shower not because i didn’t wash well enough, but because i ENJOY THE SMELL ON ME. i’m not layering perfume on body funk, i’m scenting myself the way i LIKE myself. i also use unscented deodorant, not antiperspirant, because i do enjoy the smell of my own body. i just also enjoy the smell of lavender. honestly, i don’t much care if others do…they can douse themselves in whatever shtanky crap they please. i’ll just hold my breath as i pass them. this of course does not apply to my husband. we like each others’ scents, natural and artificial…which is good, since we live with each other.

      P.S. i am so not Team Alan, but Suavitel is simply AWFUL. my friends use it, and they bring the smell into my house when they visit. it clears after a few, but once i did slyly yet politely comment on the smell of their clothes to get what brand they used…so i would never mistakenly purchase it. gak.

      Jun 28, 2011 at 10:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #29   BunnyD

    What an arrogant, whiny, pussified twerp. He needs a slap. He thinks he can throw out a ten dollar jug of Gain and not have someone retaliate? I am looking forward to his upcoming screed regarding unsolicited pizzas, magazines and flaming bags of poop.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:05 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   AuntyBron

      “… I simply cannot understand what I did that caused my neighbors to collaborate and persecute me.”

      Thank you

      Jun 21, 2011 at 11:58 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #29.2   Dustycelt bang

      yes many pizzas full of “fragrant” toppings!!!!

      Jun 22, 2011 at 9:58 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #30   Emma

    I also live in an apartment surrounded by chain smokers…and I am horribly allergic to cigarette smoke. But the whole complex smokes, practically, so I live with it by putting air purifiers everywhere and making sure my windows and doors are sealed properly. Get over it, Alan! ;)

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #31   Danny

    That last sentence is not a question. Dumb + ass.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:07 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #32   George P

    Definitely an ass.

    If someone was doing laundry at three in the morning and the noise was loud enough to keep him awake, then, yes, he’d have a valid complaint. The smell of laundry detergent, when he lives above the laundry room? Sorry. Live with it or move.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #32.1   nicki

      well if the laundry is open at 3AM I have a right to use it. He needs to talk to his landlord. And oh yeah, he’s an ass!

      Jun 21, 2011 at 9:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #33   Seanette

    And just when does he think second-shift workers among his neighbors would be able to do their laundry? It’s not at all uncommon for me to need to run a load at 11pm or later to accommodate something DH needs urgently (and he gets home at 10:30pm!), since I have to be at work at 8am, so can’t run it in the morning.

    I also have the “neighbors who smoke outside and smoke gets in” problem. I use fans to blow it back out or close my window. I also have to deal with noise from upstairs and next door. This is called “apartment building life”.

    Princess needs to suck it up and either grow a pair and learn to cope with reality or move. Wonder how many neighbors screamed to management about this note? (I certainly would!)

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #33.1   lilmrsmchenry

      Your comment about 2nd shift workers mirrors my thoughts on the subject. It is the apartment complexes laundry room not his personal living area.
      Unless there are specific rules about laundry room hours, this is the equivalent of saying that when coming into the parking lot you must but the car in neutral and push it in and you can not park your car after dark because the sounds and headlights bother him.
      (Holy run on sentence batman!)

      Jun 22, 2011 at 7:30 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #34   Aylsa

    I understand the not running the laundry after a certain time, most apartment buildings have a rule like that (for the same reason you’ll get yelled at if you have your music too high), but he definitely shouldn’t demand that people stop using the laundry detergent that THEY prefer (or can afford, as it would be in my case). Either way, don’t people usually leave their laundry soap in their own apartments? I know I did.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #34.1   EmKitteh

      Yeah, I can’t imagine leaving a bottle of detergent in a communal laundry and expecting it not to be stolen.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 10:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #34.2   Seanette

      I have an unusually civilized and friendly bunch of neighbors, and I only leave stuff in the laundry room when I have a load running (such as my laundry basket, placed on the machine I’m using, which allows someone else a place to put my stuff if I forget to move that load and they need the machine). In fact, I tend to be irritated by neighbors who treat common space as an extension of their apartment’s storage. Wouldn’t do anything to their property, of course. I just grump a bit to myself and move on with my day.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 10:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #35   anon

    Majority rules. The entire apartment building shouldn’t have to accommodate one person’s scent preference. If he doesn’t like the smell, he should GTFO. Go buy a house, get a washboard and a laundry line, and live in your own fragrance-free paradise.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:25 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #36   haley

    I’m not going to say he’s an ass. Sure the turning off the machine after 10pm is pretty self indulgent but the basic complaint regarding the smell is pretty understandable (think of all of those smells combines, ick). I don’t use scented things, so maybe I have a camaraderie with the guy. I would think he would be MUCH better served by contacting the landlord and requesting better ventilation in the laundry facilities.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #36.1   Ella

      In my mind, what makes him an ass more than anything is the fact that he says he will turn off people’s laundry machines and throw out their detergent if they don’t follow his rules.

      I can see someone having a problem with people using the laundry late at night. I can see someone having a problem with the smells. I can even see someone posting a rude note about it. That alone might land you on this website, but whether it makes you an asshole is debatable. However, someone who would steal other people’s property just because the smell gets into the apartment HE CHOSE, likely knowing that it was right above the laundry room, is absolutely, indisputably, unequivocally an asshole.

      (FYI, this was not a rant against you… just my thoughts in general)

      Jun 21, 2011 at 10:03 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #36.2   The Elf

      Exactly. He might have had a lot more sympathizers if he just left it at a noise/smell complaint – a common enough problem in any apartment complex.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 10:41 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #36.3   bookworm

      I say he IS an ass because he KNEW about his laundry woes and made the decision to live directly ABOVE a laundry room anyway. ASS!

      Jun 23, 2011 at 12:07 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #36.4   Mama Wrench

      What about people in the building who might work nights? Or people in the military who might work weird hours? I know when my baby was little, I was working 12-hour nights and swings and guess what, babies make a LOT of laundry and it can’t always get done between 9AM and 9PM!

      Jun 24, 2011 at 6:02 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #37   thelma

    Chances are, he’s paying a bit less to live above the laundry room than the others are to not, so he really has no right to complain. If he didn’t figure out it was going to be a problem when he first looked at the apartment, then he should wait out his lease and move. Looks like the building manager needs to sit him down for a little chat.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:37 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #38   scott

    I also can’t stand all those fragrances. Buy “Unscented.” Hard to believe that it’s unanimous here that he’s an ass, cause I’m on his side all the way.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #38.1   lagne

      Really? You don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask an entire community to change their reasonable habits just to accommodate your preference?

      Jun 21, 2011 at 9:48 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #38.2   jadefirefly

      In what special little world is it acceptable to threaten to steal (yes, it’s still stealing even if all you do is throw it away) other people’s possessions and money (turning off the machine I put money in? That’s lost money) to accommodate your precious little nose?

      It’s one thing to ASK. He is not asking. He is demanding, he is threatening, and he is making HIS problem someone else’s. He should have chosen not to live over a laundry room. He should have chosen to make alternate ventilation arrangements. He should have chosen to speak with his building manager.

      He has no right to make demands of the entire building by threatening to steal their shit and waste their money because HE doesn’t like a smell.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 10:08 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #38.3   TickleMyBambo

      He is not the building manager, nor is he the maintenance man. He has no right or power to shut off the machines so that threat I’d laugh at cause I know he couldn’t do it. And even if he asked to have the machines turned off, the answer would most definitely be no.

      “You have two months” Unless he was holding someone hostage and demanding a ransom, I would just sum it up as some delusional control freak throwing a fit because everyone else isn’t using the detergent of his preference. Alan needs to either suck it up or find somewhere else to live.

      Also if it were me, if I caught Alan taking MY laundry detergent that I BOUGHT with my own money that I use on my own clothes and throwing it away.. Oh believe me, he would be reimbursing me when he feels my boot go up his ass and my toes tickle his nostrils. I do not tolerate people who would be petty enough to steal and throw away someones personal belongings.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:28 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #38.4   Nunavut Guy

      Really,how could anyone on the planet not agree with your opinions?We all stand corrected and in awe of you.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 12:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #38.5   Nunavut Guy

      38.4 didn’t show up where I thought it would.Now it’s just an out of context post.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 12:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #38.6   guinevere81 bang

      I’m thinking that his “power” to turn off the machines consists of just unplugging them.

      That’s probably what I would do if I was a total asshole.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 12:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #39   Dooble. D Dooble

    I’d support Alan; that’d be really fu*king annoying to have sickly sweet laundry conditioner smell in your apartment all day long.

    He’s asked a couple of times and is prepared to give people a couple of months to change….I think that’s a legit way to do things.

    Commenters here are always gonna be against him – we don’t come to passiveaggresivenotes.com to see nice logical balanced messages – we come here to laugh at people so it’s not suprising to me that most people here think eh is being an ass. I bet that if we all had to spend a day in his place with that smell around, we’d be sick of it too.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #39.1   lagne

      I’d get sick of it.

      Then I’d move.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 10:13 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #39.2   bookworm

      I’d get sick of it, but I’d also realize that the fact my life is permeated in those scents is MOSTLY my fault, for choosing to move in directly above a laundry room, and at some point I would cut my losses and MOVE, instead of pulling the “allergy” card and making a total ass of myself.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 12:10 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #40   Maaaanda

    Oh lord.. this reminds me of the neighbors that I had.. the wife always used that stuff that smelled like oven-fresh cookies AND lavender (or something like that). I hated it! The smells mixed and were so sickly sweet! And I didn’t even live above the laundry room.. I was across the courtyard! I didn’t complain because she was the one that had to wear/smell the atrocities. I just learned her schedule (Thursday I think) and reminded myself to never go outside during that!

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #40.1   Rattus

      I truly and honestly wish that scented crap was rendered illegal, much like perfumes and odorous unguents have been banned from many workspaces. It is shocking how many people don’t realize how much the cacophony of effluvia they layer themselves with (detergent, shampoo, moisturizer, berry flavoured lip-balm, sun block, body spray) makes them stink like a toxic waste dump. And then their homes. Oy, their homes. Febreze *gag*, Glade *wretch*, every bit of better living through chemistry sprayable home improvement making its noisome presence known like an sensory sledehammer. I long for a scent-free world.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 10:01 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #40.2   The Elf

      I didn’t realize how much scent I used (shampoo, soap, detergent, lotion, never perfume) until I was forced to go without due to allergies. It’s difficult to find completely fragrance free products! They’re generally more expensive, too. Shampoo/conditioner proved to be the hardest to find; apparantly everyone likes to have nice smelling hair. Completely fragrance free products often have their own smell which the artifical scents cover up. They are not nuetral-smelling, and can sometimes be faintly unpleasant. Eventually I was able to start using scented products again, but only those scented with essential oils. But having gone so long without, I find too many at once to be overwhelming. I usually end up picking one or two simarly-scented items to use and keeping the majority fragrance free. I don’t want to go completely without because I *enjoy* wearing a scent.

      Some scents are also derived from the necessary ingredients in the product and are unavoidable. When I had my allergic reactions, I relied on a cream to quell the itchiness from the hives while the antihistamines and steroids worked their magic. That had a heavy minty scent from the menthol, which was necessary to numb the skin. I know some people didn’t like it (husband, for one) but hey, it’s either that or scratch my skin off. Can’t be helped.

      The problem is not scent, per se. Your scent-free world would be very much NOT be scent-free. The problem is when people don’t know how to stop. A whiff of strawberries, cool. A whiff of strawberries and a stench of musk plus a lingering “mountain fresh” air, not cool. I wouldn’t go so far as to call for laws, or even for workplace bans (though certainly private companies have the right), but just a little social pressure on those who truly go overboard. Dab the perfume, hon, don’t roll in it.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 11:04 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #40.3   Who passed out the Haterade?

      Thank you for these posts. Despite being Team I Dare You To Touch My Laundry Or To Say This To My Face, I’m kinda dumbfounded at the number of people who insinuate that because he’s hypersensitive to odor, that proves he smells bad.

      He’s not advocating not smelling clean. Smelling clean is good. What he’s advocating is not smelling like perfume. Perfume doesn’t make you clean, and it doesn’t work nearly as well as you think to hide it when you’re not.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 5:27 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #41   Garry

    I have a feeling Alan is responsible for the smell getting worse since he asked multiple times. He should talk to the landlord about moving instead of just discarding products, lol…

    Jun 21, 2011 at 9:57 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #42   DS

    He’s an a$$hat.

    I want my clothes to smell like a hooker’s panty drawer and there’s nothing he can do about it… switch off my laundry or take my detergent/softener and I will pump a 55 gallon drum of it into your apartment…promise.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 10:03 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #42.1   it's naptime

      Hookers wear panties?

      Jun 22, 2011 at 4:02 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #43   Gabe

    Seriously, I can’t help it. I’m violently allergic to artificial scents, and I would pour an entire bottle of scented detergent down his front door. What an ass.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 10:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #44   oi

    Dear Alan,
    Are you fucking kidding me? You fat, c0ckscka!

    Sorry. Sopranos lingers longer than you’d think.

    For the record you are an ass, dumb one at that!

    Jun 21, 2011 at 10:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #45   Assy McAsserton

    The Asses have it!

    Jun 21, 2011 at 10:07 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #46   Nicole

    Aye aye. I’d just love for him to have to read our comments.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 10:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #46.1   FeRD bang

      I move the submitter print the entire thread out and post it under his note! It’s the perfect way to give a totally anonymous (as well as unbiased and irrefutable!) critique of his stupidity.

      Jun 21, 2011 at 10:51 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #46.2   lagne

      Oh, totally seconded. And then post a followup. Please, Submitter, please? :-)

      Jun 21, 2011 at 11:09 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #47   Jess

    would anyone else be tempted to put a load on at midnight with nothing in the machine but cheap men’s deodorant as washing liquid and a tennis ball?

    Jun 21, 2011 at 10:22 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #47.1   LJ

      One word: Axe.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 9:11 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #48   Ashlee

    I used to lived under these people with two little kids who stayed up really late and it sounded like they had the home version of Dance Dance Revolution and they liked playing it at 2am. But I didn’t leave them ass-hat-ish notes saying I was going to drug their children or throw them in the dumpster. Alan is an ass.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 10:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #48.1   AnonyReader

      Same here. I got a noise machine so I could sleep, and when I watched a movie I enjoyed my own surround sound. It’s part of apartment living. I suppose Alan expects someone who works two day jobs to take vacation so that she could do her laundry within his time frame. What a dick.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 7:38 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #48.2   Rattus

      If you’re going to drug people’s children or throw them in a dumpster, you would have to be mightly foolish to leave a note to that effect.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 8:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #48.3   The Elf

      Tempting, though…..

      Jun 22, 2011 at 9:33 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #49   FeRD bang

    This note’s been near-universally flamed to death by now, but I’m still stuck on how he thinks it “does not seem too much to ask”! SRSLY?!?! (…But, of course, I know he is serious, because he assumes that he has to repeat the request only because, “some resist or forget and maybe I did not ask some newer members.”)

    Along with the previous note, these are clearly people who have arrived at a completely different model of the social contract than I learned. I was under the impression we should all attempt to impose on others as little as possible.

    People like Alan and bathroom-bitchy seem to think that rule only applies to other people, and not themselves.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 10:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #49.1   scott

      “We should all attempt to impose on others as little as possible?” So when you’ve got 50 or 60 people imposing their various and sundry perfume fragrances on one poor bastard, you think that’s fair? You seem to think the Golden Rule applies to Alan and no-one else. And for everyone who is hollering that he should move, if he has a common year-apartment-lease, that may not be an option.

      Jun 25, 2011 at 10:22 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #49.2   junksty

      suck a cock, asking EVERYONE is a dickhead move, just stfu u fucking retard

      Jun 27, 2011 at 1:52 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #50   Rachel

    I used to live in an apartment directly above the laundry room. I NEVER got any laundry smells in my apartment and I was NEVER disturbed by any noise. I worked midnights at the time, so I did my laundry in the middle of the night on my nights off and I never got any complaints about creating noise. Maybe that building was built better than Alan’s is, but really. And anyway, who leaves their detergent in the community laundry room? This guy is batshit insane!

    Jun 21, 2011 at 11:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #50.1   jadefirefly

      In my last apartment in Chicago, there was a community laundry room and everyone left their detergent and other stuff on the shelf there. It seemed to be what everyone did. There were only about 6 apartments, though, so it wasn’t too much stuff in the way or being annoying.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #51   RavenMcCoy

    Who died and made Alan laundry king? I’ve seen a TON of notes on here about people crowning themselves with completely bullshit power (throwing away co-worker’s mugs, that sort of thing) and it drives me INSANE. You are a fellow tenant (or in the case of the mugs, a peer) and you have zero power to do the things you’re threatening to do. You’re not a manager, custodian, landlord, or mommy. What you’re talking about is theft.

    I agree that Alan is probably paying less to live in a less-desirable unit, so he can suck it up. I lived in the basement of my dorm two rooms from two laundry rooms, and I never found the melange of smells offensive. It really, altogether, just smells like “laundry” and I thought it was pleasant.

    If he threw away my supplies, I would demand reimbursement and buy the same damn thing, or smellier, repeat. If he stopped my laundry, I would eventually tattle to the building manager and make it his problem — if Alan won’t listen to me, he’ll sure as Hell listen to his landlord when he is instructed to stop being a petulant five year-old and learn to live among other reasonable adults.

    “I will give everyone two months…” ARE YOU SERIOUS, ALAN. You do not have the power for such demands. ASS.

    Jun 21, 2011 at 11:57 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #52   AuntyBron

    Dear alan,
    If you wonder if you’re being an ass you’re the biggest ass looking for a reason to be an ass.

    Thank you
    Your Mountain Fresh Neighbor

    Jun 22, 2011 at 12:02 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #53   Lauri

    Ah, exactly the kind of thing that makes me glad I own my own home. Other people’s noise, etc. used to drive me crazy so I did us all a favor and got my own piece of quiet, odor-free heaven where I can use my surround sound without fear.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 12:04 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #54   jenthehen

    OK, that letter would drive me to paper his door, hallway floor and walls with stinktastic dryer sheets. Then, I’d have to stalk Alan so I could watch when he did his laundry so I could put stinky stuff in it. I’d have to find his car and put some dryer sheets in the vents. Yeah, this guy is an asshole and sometimes you gotta fight asshole with asshole.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 12:12 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #55   Earl Hamsher

    I think everybody in the complex should complain about this guy turning off machines and stealing soaps even before he does it.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 12:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #55.1   TickleMyBambo

      Better yet, start stealing his detergent and locking the machines when it comes time for Alan to do his laundry.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 2:30 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #55.2   The Elf

      All good ideas! I might have been a *little* sympathetic to smelling laundry stuff if it wasn’t for the stealing and shutting down laundry parts.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 6:16 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #56   bmn

    What an absolute cockbite. It would be so so so hard not to slip dryer sheets under his door, or mail some to him so that his mailbox smells like mountain spring pine rainfall, too.

    And the one time someone took my laundry out of the machine it was in (and dumped it on the floor!) and left a note on there saying “what kind of asshole does laundry at 11pm?” was the time I got a free month of rent from my landlord, along with being reimbursed for both loads (the first money, wasted, and the second amount, to re-wash my clothes).

    It’s a 24-hour laundry room, asshole. That means I can do my laundry whenever I damn well please. Don’t like it? Don’t live next to/above the fucking laundry room.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 1:26 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #56.1   jadefirefly

      I’d go online and find every free sample of scented products I could, and mail ‘em all to alan. Everything from dryer sheets to lotion to shampoo to personal lubricants.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #57   Buck

    Sounds like somebody needs to find a little eviction notice on their door.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 2:00 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #58   naomi

    he’s an ass who should ask for a suite away from the laundry room.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 2:23 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #59   Grant

    He could do a bulk deal with Ecover or one of the other companies.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 4:39 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #60   clivechristy

    I am rarely spurred into commenting on the notes here, because mostly they are pissy and juvenile or smarmy and patronizing….but this one, well this one takes the cake. I live in a condo building, and part of that is accepting certain things. I don’t always like the food that everyone cooks or a variety of other things, but it’s none of my business and I accept it as part of the give and take of living with others…part of the social contract. This guy, is astonishing because not only is his message patronizing but it’s also bullying and threatening, like he is in charge of the laundry room because he lives above it. He has also left himself open to a future of pain and suffering because anytime laundry is stopped or liquid gone missing, he will be getting the blame. Antisocial dickweeds like this, think that somehow they have more rights because of proximity, but they forget that they are part of the same social contract we are all signed on to. He is an ass and a bully as well as presumptuous asshat.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 6:01 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #61   poffles

    The detergent smells must get tiresome after x amount of months/years of smelling them, but that doesn’t give him the right to dictate what other people do especially since they’re not actually doing anything wrong.

    I’m sure it’s more likely he’d get kicked out of his apartment rather than making it the smell-free haven that he’s so hoping for. If I were a residential manager I’d be furious about one of my tennants threatening other paying residents, stealing their belongings and touching electricals that I’m guessing he doesn’t really have permission to do. When I had the displeasure of using a shared washing machine (just the one machine, not even a proper laundry room) I was pretty much disgusted by other people’s discard for simple hygiene but what can you do? They’re paying to use it too.

    If I were his neighbour I’d complain about him until something was done either way, and carry on doing my laundry the same.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 6:59 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #62   AnonyReader

    Oh, he’s an ass, and an entitled one at that. It doesn’t seem to cross his mind that there are people who have a reason for using scented laundry products. My 11-year-old son is starting to smell like a man, and you can be darn sure I want that smell out of his clothes when I wash them – Alan be damned.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 7:34 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #63   Ashley

    Hmmm, as someone who is allergic to the scented stuff (and gets terrible headaches from the smell of it), I can’t help but applaud the Lord of the Laundry Room, ass or not!

    Jun 22, 2011 at 7:46 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #63.1   jadefirefly

      I really get the feeling that you neither read any of the other comments, nor caught on to the part where he’s a bully who threatens criminal activity towards both his fellow tenants and his landlord in order to get his way.

      I’m still waiting for someone to explain how they support that part.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #64   Nope

    Seems reasonable to me. Personally I have a few inconsiderate neighbors in my building. One of them likes to have their TV/computer/or whatever at ear-blasting volume all hours of the day (you can hear it as soon as you walk in the building). Another (who lives next door to them) smokes God knows what that is quite possibly one step away from smoking pure feces as it smells horribly awful and seeps into my apartment on a fairly regular basis. I have to spray down my entire apartment with air freshener when they smoke as it is that bad. They also insist on playing ear-blasting reggae music all hours of the day. The other one who lives on the other side of me has taken up the bass guitar apparently and seems to think that the whole building wants to hear him as he has it hooked up to an amp for hours at a time. Amps are for concerts, not for practicing in your paper-thin-walls apartment, jerk.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 8:15 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #64.1   Reply to Nope

      DON’T NEED TO HEAR YOUR LIFE STORY IDIOT! Go start your own blog — otherwise, keep it on topic.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 8:41 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #64.2   Nope

      **** you douche. It’s called a comparison. Don’t you have anything better to do than be a dickhead?

      Jun 22, 2011 at 1:29 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #64.3   jadefirefly

      You and alan should be neighbors.

      You can bitch when he steals your laundry detergent and wastes your laundry money, and he can bitch that you use air fresheners next door to him. Because it’s his air, dammit, and you have no right to scent it without his permission.

      And no, you don’t get a choice. He’s the one telling you what to do. You didn’t really think it was an equitable relationship, did you?

      This isn’t about scent, or noise. It’s about someone who thinks he’s got the right to boss other tenants around, threaten them, and steal their shit to satisfy his own need for control.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #65   Gabel

    He’s an ass hole. You live in an apartment.. Get a grip on reality. If you dont like it move, but thats part of livinfg in one.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 9:16 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #66   havingfitz

    I once shared an apartment wall with a woman who played the song “Sweet Dreams” over and over again all day, every day. While after a while I did have visions of hunting down The Eurythmics and stuffing them into a blender, I chose the less-aggressive option and moved. Alan has absolutely no right to dictate how or when people do their laundry: buy or rent a house if you can’t accept the fact that living in an apartment means living with things you don’t like or can’t control.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 9:28 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #66.1   RavenMcCoy

      That’s rough, dude, but I feel like the Eurythmics chick was the opposite end of the annoying neighbor spectrum… 1 being “using completely normal laundry products with normal laundry habits” and 10 being “playing Annie Lennox dance pop 18 hours a day at full blast.”

      I definitely think Alan should move, but in the situation where one neighbor is going above and beyond to make your life Hell (even inadvertently), you’re well within your rights to say something. (Maybe not passive-aggressively, or in a note… maybe politely to their face.)

      If you did and she was still being completely awful, I agree moving is the best recourse. Better to just excuse yourself from the situation entirely than to have hundreds of people on the internet calling you an ass.

      Jun 25, 2011 at 7:47 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #67   Dustycelt bang

    maybe?!?!? MAYBE?!?!?!? Dude, it’s makes you a raging assclown!!! Maybe Alan should consider asking to move to a different apartment in the building. I’m sooo sorry that most detergents/softners/dryer sheets don’t live up to his “refined” sense of smell but he can just suck it! *walks away grumbling* the nerve of some people…..

    Jun 22, 2011 at 9:42 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #68   Kim

    The way he says “I’ve asked numerous times for all to comply . . but some resist” is really disturbing. This guy is a complete ass and is probably mentally imbalanced as well. If I lived there I would send a copy of that note to the apartment management. This guy is way out of line saying he is going to shut machines off and throw people’s detergent away and management needs to address that with him. He also needs to realize that using scented laundry products is the NORM. Most people like them and use them. Using unscented products is the EXCEPTION. He is the EXCEPTION and everyone should not have to accomodate his preference, as it is in the minority.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 9:47 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #68.1   Belinda

      That is, if you’re in the minority, you have no rights. Only the majority does. Get with the program!



      Jun 22, 2011 at 11:33 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #68.2   Chesire Cat

      Sometimes the unscented hypoallergenic kind costs more too so it is really unacceptable to expect someone to spend more money to please you. I know the All free and Clear I use is a little more pricey than say regular Tide. Now if he provided free unscented detergent for everyone and asked nicely if they could please use it and explain why, then he would in the right and they would be the asses.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:03 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #69   Canthz_B bang


    “We have come to regulate your use of scented laundry products. Resistance is futile.”

    Jun 22, 2011 at 10:04 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #69.1   The Elf

      “I will continue, in this apartment complex, to speak for the Borg. While they continue, without further diversion, to the landlord’s office, where they will force your unconditional surrender.”

      — Alacutus of Borg

      Jun 22, 2011 at 11:10 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #70   Lynda

    what an ass hat. I say superglue his doors and window shut while he is home and then wash massive loads of scented laundry…Or better yet, wait until he is washing a load and he leaves, then add some scented stuff to it (skunk mayhaps?) and finish the load.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 10:33 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #70.1   Rattus

      Yeah, let’s. Someone who would do that totally isn’t an asshat.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 11:16 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #70.2   AuntyBron

      Doe urine is easier to come by.

      Not that I would know about such things. Just saying.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 12:15 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #71   Lori

    The only thing I agree on is the time. I used to have a neighbor who did her laundry at 3:00 am! She also couldn’t balance a load to save her life. There should be some respect between neighbors. The whole smell issue is HIS problem. Shut your window, buy an AC. Shut the hell up.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 11:16 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #71.1   Clumber

      A. alan is an Ass.
      B. to Lori – some folks (me not being one) prefer to do their laundry at extremely non-peak energy usage times either to save $ (probably not true in an apt situation) or to be “green” (whatever)… and such. Including that might be the only time they have a chance to get it done.
      C. alan is an Ass.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #72   Sammi

    Ass. Ass. Mega ass.
    If it’s such a problem for precious little Alan then why doesn’t he go out and buy new detergent for everyone?

    Also, Alan, throwing away people’s property will either get you

    a. a broken nose or;
    b. a visit from the po-po

    You’re not cute and your threats of stealing and destroying peoples’ belongings should be enough for your neighbors to have you kicked out by the building management.

    Go shit in a hat.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 11:41 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #72.1   Chesire Cat

      If I lived in that building I would make it clear to the landlord that if he threw out anything of mine or turned off the washer/dryer that I want him dealt with. In general people should not do laundry late at night but sometimes you have to like if your kid just threw up on the bedsheets and comfortor. If you don’t wash vomit right away the smell will be unbearable.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:00 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #72.2   mosessupposes

      New Dr. Seuss;
      “Shat in a Hat”

      Jun 22, 2011 at 7:19 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #73   Evie

    I for one love my scented detergent. The smell of lavender or vanilla makes me feel happy. I honestly couldn’t give two sh*ts what a total stranger thinks about it; they’re my things, and I will derive as much enjoyment out of them as I can.

    Alan – move, or buy an air purifier, or suck it up. Even if you have allergies, that is not my problem. I am not required to make myself uncomfortable or unhappy on your behalf. Especially when you are a raging douchewangler.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 12:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #73.1   Rattus

      I couldn’t give two shits what people around me think about my appearance, but fortunately I was raised to have enough empathy to give some consideration to how aspects of my behaviour might have some effect on those about me. So I don’t wear stink. And rest assured, you DO stink. I know, I know, you don’t care.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 1:19 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #73.2   lagne

      So people who use scented products are inconsiderate and were obviously raised wrong. And they DO stink!

      I love how discussions progress on PAN. :-) heh.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 2:47 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #73.3   AuntyBron

      Mommy always said I was a little stinker.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 12:18 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #73.4   bookworm

      At least we stink like vanilla and lavander and not b.o. like Rattus here suggest we all do.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 12:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #74   OldPandaDayz

    This guy is a total ass. I also happen to live near the vent for our building’s laundry facilities and the occasional scent of “spring rain” is the least of the problems I have when leaving my windows open. I prefer it to the general scent of exhaust fumes from the nearby intersection, or the smell of garbage which also gets dragged out by the building management through the basement door underneath my window. That’s all in addition to the usual sounds of urban living including the 10 or so police cruisers that fly down the road from the nearby police station every day. Get over it Alan!

    Jun 22, 2011 at 12:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #75   Yvonne

    Mmmmmmmmm….Natures Garden’s Island Fresh Gain :)

    Jun 22, 2011 at 12:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #76   Kim

    he should have written a polite note, not DEMANDING that anyone change and THREATENING to throw out their stuff but REQUESTING the use of non-scented detergents due to his allergies, etc. And then buy a couple of bottles of unscented detergent to leave in the laundry room for everyone to use which would be replenished as needed. That might actually work to an extent, and buying the special detergent for everyone to use to accomodate his preference would be a nice gesture of goodwill.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 1:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #77   Trish

    I hope whoever took this photo took the note to building management.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 1:47 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #78   allergic2alan

    I’m among the people who are highly allergic to synthetic scents like in most laundry detergents, too, but I have to agree with the “Alan’s an Ass” crowd. It’s not my right to tell others how to live just because I have a problem, it’s my job to figure out how to live with it. If I went anywhere NEAR as far as Alan, it would be a polite note explaining my allergy & my location & (again, politely) asking if people would consider using less stinky soaps.

    If they didn’t want to comply, I’d ask to move as soon as another apartment were available. Other people do not exist to serve my needs or Alan’s. He doesn’t need to be a flaming douchebag about it.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 1:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #78.1   Belinda

      Moving has been compared to divorce and death of a loved one in terms of the stress it puts on people. And what if you’re in a rent-controlled 4-plex where nobody moves for years because if they do, their rent will double, triple or quadruple? Saying “why doesn’t he just ask for another apartment,” like it’s as easy as picking up a different brand of detergent strikes me as naive. Moving is not always a simple possibility!

      Jun 22, 2011 at 2:23 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #78.2   lagne

      If the laundry issue requires so much of his energy, and if he expects his neighbors to devote as much energy to accommodating him, the problem is obviously big enough to justify a move.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 2:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #78.3   bookworm

      But Belinda: if moving is such a stressful ordeal, why would one make the decision to move into an apartment that they know will only cause them problems later on down the line? Alan HAD to have known about his laundry quirks BEFORE he moved in. Why do that to yourself?

      Jun 23, 2011 at 12:18 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #79   olive

    That’s pretty rude. He should request to be moved to a new apartment.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 2:08 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #80   billybob

    If this guy unplugged my washer at least I would know what apartment he is in so i can kick his ass.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 2:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #81   Anon

    Ass might be a little strong, but he’s definitely delusional if he thinks he’s going to get people to give up their laundry detergent. Also, the reason they put those evil chemical compounds in there is that they work. People who use the lame-ass unscented and enviro friendly crap smell like B.O.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 2:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #81.1   Chesire Cat

      I use All free and clear. It does not really smell super strongly since it has no added scents or stuff in it. We have sensitive skin so we need that. We don’t smell either though. Same with Dreft.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 2:56 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #81.2   The Elf

      Arm & Hammer Free, the one with the big “Dermatologist Tested”. Yes, it is pricier. Damn near everything fragrance and dye free is. It works as well in getting your clothes clean as the Arm & Hammer scented detergent I used to use and smells fairly nuetral.

      I’m not on Alan’s side, but to think that added scent adds anything but scent is absolutely wrong.

      I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the stinky people you’ve assumed use “enviro-friendly crap” are probably some varient of a 21st century hippy, not someone with skin sensitivities! There’s a whole ‘nother issue there.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 3:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #81.3   Rattus

      *ahem* We use the lame-ass unscented and enviro friendly crap and we don’t smell like B.O. That’s because we also bathe regularly and wash our clothes weekly. And I’m not delusional – I can always tell when I smell bad. That would be the occasional Sunday that I go shower-free because I am just too freakin’ lazy to do even that much.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 4:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #82   Chesire Cat

    Ass. Don’t live right above the laundry room if you are that sensitive to noise or smells.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 2:55 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #83   Anon

    Wouldn’t spend a day in his place because I don’t hang out with ASSES (except real ones, of course – the kind that bray)

    Jun 22, 2011 at 2:56 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #84   Late Night Laundry

    Alan’s lucky he doesn’t live in my building. I work odd hours; hours which force me to do ALL my laundry after 11 PM. I feel no shame whatsoever about this, and if an “Alan” ever walks into my laundry room intent on sabotaging my laundry, they can expect to have a bottle of fragrance-laden detergent upended over their head.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 3:02 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #85   Clumber

    I really <3 the fabreeze-scented laundry soap.. i'd dive buck-nekkid into a pile of fresh laundry from that or some with regular scented Bounce. Homer Simpson donut-themed quote of your choice goes here
    But… sighhhhh… but my dearly loved one is fabulously topically allergic to pretty much any sort of scented laundry product at all. So we don’t use any. So I guess what I am saying is.. umm.. alan, you Ass, may I rent a few hours in your apartment during the heavy laundry-use times please?

    Jun 22, 2011 at 3:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #86   Army of Words

    Until today I had no idea that so many people hate the smell of scented detergents and such, so much that they would consider someone who does their laundry with them to stink. Do you people use scented deodorant? Shampoos? Does every artificial smell affect you in this way? How about perfume? I ask because I’m curious, not trying to be snarky.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 3:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.1   EmKitteh

      Well I can only answer for myself but no, I don’t use scented deodorant, shampoo, soap, toilet paper, etc. and I most definitely don’t use perfume. If I’m sitting near someone wearing perfume, I will move away if I can. But I don’t just hate the smell, I have allergies.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 5:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.2   Belinda

      I use certain scented products, but I have to be very careful because of allergies and asthma. But one of the highest on my list of hated smells is scented laundry detergent.
      Seriously. Is your nose broke?! That stuff smells like a toxic waste version of whatever they claim it’s supposed to smell like. . . !

      Jun 22, 2011 at 6:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.3   lagne

      I personally am really sensitive to smells, but rarely allergic beyond just getting a little sneezy. I use scented shampoo/conditioner, but everything else I use is unscented – deoderant, lotion, makeup, paper products. Oh, and laundry detergent. :-) I agree, Belinda, it’s hard to bottle the smell of “mountain rain” or “tropical forest” or whatever; the scents are never true to their names. But I enjoy a few of them.

      I usually find that, unless someone’s wearing a bunch of perfume or scented lotion, I don’t notice whether they smell “scented,” but I can’t STAND to be in a room with someone wearing perfume. Then again, I’m a chef, and any kind of scented anything is frowned on in the kitchen because it gets in the way of the food.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 6:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.4   Rattus

      I don’t have allergy issues, but I don’t use scented products because they smell dreadful on other people, no matter how lovely they think their own chemical miasma is. I’m also environmentally conscious and have been for decades – no trend follower here – and I prefer to use natural, non-animal tested products. Off-topic from the odour issue, I find it ironic that the people who seem to care the least about the environment are those who have kids. Huh!

      I will confess to using a spritz of Shalimar once in a very long while. I think the last time I wore it was nearly two years ago, out for dinner in Ottawa.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 6:58 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.5   The Elf

      I generally don’t use scented products at all. No scented lotion and no scented anti-perspirant especially because that has maximum skin contact and will send me into hives like nothing else. Now that I’ve recovered a bit, I do indulge in a scented soap (essential oils, not manufactured chemicals), but that is pretty much it. Yes, perfume affects me the same way, which is why I prefer pure essential oils the rare times I want a perfume.

      What really gets me is that some products say “dermatologist tested” or “hypoallergenic” and they still have a fragrance! I really have to read the labels.

      Rattus speaks of an environmental aspect to it, and he (she?) is correct. I like greener and cruelty free products, but I have a hard enough time finding things I like that don’t cause a reaction to be picky.

      I actually find it pretty cool that there are so many of us out there! Read up, manufacturers and retailers! There’s a market you’re missing. I’d love to see more selection on the shelves.

      FWIW, the smell doesn’t bother me. It’s the contact with the skin, which causes me to break out in hives.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 8:52 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.6   Canthz_B bang

      Oh my, what’s happening to the gene pool?

      My wife bought me some cologne last Christmas that I cannot wear even sparingly (as a responsible person does) when I go to work because someone or a few people’s systems are negatively affected.

      What ever happened to women being attracted to men who smell nice?

      Really, don’t they still make plastic bubbles? Telecommuting seems like a good option, though the world is full of scents like flowers and such so there’s no escape, so why bitch about it? No one has for thousands of years…even the Magi offered Myrrh to Baby Jesus. Did anyone object to the gift because of their allergies? Does anyone even know what selfish means anymore? Here’s a clue:
      “I have allergies, so the rest of the world must change for my comfort.”
      I reject that. Take your meds and let the rest of us enjoy the scents which give us pleasure and make us feel good. Who are you to take that away from us because of your physiological deficiencies? Why do we have to pay an aesthetic price because of you?

      Some of the same people who complain about perfumes and colognes are wont to bring some of the most foul-smelling food to work.
      I sometimes wonder if their sneezes are more important than my upset stomach.
      I’ll offer them a tissue, if they’ll clean-up my vomit.

      The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one…so suck it up! I’m wearing my expensive and lovingly presented cologne tomorrow!!

      Jun 23, 2011 at 1:20 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.7   lagne

      ooh, see, that’s a good point; I freakin luuuurve me a good-smellin’ man. Maybe because there are bazillions more womens’ perfumes on the market than mens’ colognes (therefore more opportunities to end up with a crappy, stinky one), but I’m way more prone to hating a woman’s perfume than a man’s cologne. Go figure.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 2:05 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.8   Canthz_B bang

      It’s how we’re built, when built properly.
      I had a girlfriend once who’d bought a perfume aptly named “Pheromone”.
      The stuff drove me wild, while she hardly noticed she was wearing it.

      She was pretty happy she’d bought it though!! ;-)

      Jun 23, 2011 at 2:23 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.9   Chesire Cat

      I am not smell sensitive but I have very sensitive skin. Tide will make my skin fall off. So I have to have Ivory soap or All free and clear for washing my hands and clothes. I can have scented deoderant and shampoo etc.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 7:25 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.10   Rattus

      Scent allergies generally don’t amount to “the sniffles”. They frequently cause rashes and migraines. Carcinogenc smoke is now banned from the workplace so I don’t see any reason why migraine causing scents shouldn’t be as well. And the reason why so many people now suffer from these allergies, as well as a number of food allergies, is because of additives to our food and cleaning products. Peanut allergies have increased because peanuts are used as a cheap filler in processed foods. Soy and corn allergies are on the rise for the same reason. The addition of perfumes and dyes to anything that would have been perfectly acceptable colour and scent free is causing the rise of allergies in that area. But, ya know, people have to have things that look and smell “pretty”. Personally, not having kids, I kind of don’t give a rats ass about the mess we’re making of things, but I do feel bad for the animals who have nothing to do with all this nonsense.

      And with respect to one’s thinking that they smell nice, for every person that is enjoying one’s odour, there are two people who wish one would get the hell away from them but are too polite to say so.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 7:27 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.11   Chesire Cat

      I used to go to a church with mostly old ladies. They had lost their sense of smell over the years. So when they put on their perfume for church they will apply it till they could smell it. The problem being those of us with our sniffers still working could smell them coming a mile away. I like perfume and can handle most smells but that got a little much.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 7:27 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.12   Sean Jungian

      Count me as another who is not fragrance-allergic, but avoids it anyway. If I have a choice, and all other things being equal, (price, efficacy) I will usually purchase the fragrance-free version of a product.

      I’m not even particularly sensitive to smells, really; my sense of smell is generally very poor. I think for me a lot of the avoidance is psychological – the few times I HAVE smelled someone’s cologne or shampoo it has been so overwhelming as to bring tears to my eyes. Its more the idea of a cloud of chemical gases that puts me off than the actual smell.

      *BUT* I would not even think of asking, let alone demanding, that someone else give it up – particularly laundry detergents. The only person I would ask to refrain from wearing scent is a lover. I hate the smell of cologne on someone in close contact and far prefer the smell of the person’s own body in those situations – one person’s B.O. is another person’s pheremone.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 7:55 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.13   The Elf

      CB, a lot of us aren’t insisting that you change. With me, you’d have to get it on my skin to cause a reaction, and I just don’t see us snuggling skin to skin anytime soon. So no worries. Even if we were close, it’s my problem to manage, not yours. Same with a food allergy. The onus is on me not to ingest it, not on Lagne to avoid cooking with it. Scent allergy isn’t really that much different – the onus is on the allergic person to find ways to cope. Having an allergy does not mean automatically that the person needs to make everyone else conform.

      Alan seems to think it does, but we’ve already established that Alan is an ass.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 8:34 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.14   Canthz_B bang

      BS, Rattus. Over-exposure doesn’t cause allergies, immune systems cause allergies.
      My histamines know how to behave properly. If some people’s histamine response overreacts to a stimulus that’s their problem, not mine.

      I’ve been eating peanuts several times a week for nearly half a century and I’ve not developed a peanut allergy.
      There’s the case of the child whose severe peanut allergy has caused a school to ask all of the child’s classmates’ parents to be careful not to send anything with peanut in it to school with their children because their kid could die. Well excuse me, but if your kid is that defective don’t send him/her to school. You don’t have a right ask the world to change for your kid.

      Been breathing in pollens and mold spores daily since birth and have no allergies associated with them. Just like most people.
      The atmosphere is mostly nitrogen, but we’re not allergic to it because of over-exposure.

      Just take the meds and stop blaming society for your genetic shortcomings. Instead, thank society for the meds (many of which were tested on animals BTW…the good, the bad and the ugly truth. Hate the cosmetics, but love the drugs.)

      Why do we have scented products? Because they give most of us a sense of pleasure…we like them and they’re harmless to the vast majority of us.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 9:50 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.15   Rattus

      Obtuse. That’s the only word that comes to mind.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 10:37 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.16   lagne

      My mother wears Pheromone.. it’s gorgeous, but definitely one that’s easy to overdo before you realize it (might have something to do with my aversion to scent). ;-)

      I agree with whoever said that scents should be banned in the workplace, though. Many people do go overboard, and if your fragrance enters the room before you do, it calls a lot of attention to your personal grooming habits in a professional setting; I think it’s somewhat unprofessional, akin to wearing over-the-top makeup or tight clothing, but worse, since I can look away from clown makeup, but strong smells are pervasive. Kinda the same principle that dictates we shouldn’t listen to loud music on our work computers because it distracts other people. It’s unfortunate that people who apply fragrance conservatively get lumped in with those who drown the whole world in their smell.

      It’s reasonable to ban fragrances in a setting where people are in close quarters; it would be reasonable for me, if I shared an apartment with Alan, to use only fragrance-free products, if it were necessary for his health. It’s not reasonable to move voluntarily into an apartment next to the laundry and then demand everyone change their habits to suit you.

      I gotta disagree, Rattius, that for every one person enjoying scents, there are two who are averse. If that were the case, unscented products would make up the vast majority of what’s on store shelves, but the reverse is true.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 11:42 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.17   Chesire Cat

      Not all people with food allergies demand such things as peanut free schools. All I would demand for my son was a peanut free lunch table or little area for him so he is not sitting right next to someone eating peanuts and for students to wash their hands after eating so no peanut butter on their hands gets spread around where my son can touch it. I don’t care if they have peanuts to eat. That is fine. Just wash your hands afterward and keep it away from my son’s eating area. I also will ask to leave some safe treats with the teacher so he has something safe to eat during class parties.

      I don’t demand everyone stop eating peanuts. We work around it. Not all people are nuts about it (pun intended). My husband has a shellfish allergy too he developed as an adult. He ate shellfish here and there growing up and yet he still developed it.

      I ate peanuts when I was pregnant and nursing yet my son still developed an allergy. Genetics play a part and so does environment and other factors.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 1:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.18   Canthz_B bang

      Rattus, just because someone disagrees with you does not make them obtuse. I thoroughly considered your argument with an open mind and found it scientifically wanting. I happen to have what I see as a more valid explanation for allergies than mere overexposure to food additives, cleaning products and the like.
      You can ask an Immunologist about it if you’d like, but WebMD is easier, and would probably be quite informative for you, I just happen to work in a health care related field and know a little bit about such things because of my training without having to make assumptions. ;-)

      CC, you nut (just a pun), eating peanuts while pregnant will not cause your child to have a peanut allergy to be sure.
      Your son’s immune system overproduces IgE, and that’s because he’s genetically predisposed to do so, not due to environmental factors. That’s why you see an Immunologist for allergies, not an Environmentalist like Rattus! :-P
      Hell, if overexposure to peanuts caused lethal peanut allergies, a huge number of the population of Georgia (US) would have peanut allergies and the crop would be banned by that State’s health authorities.

      Your husband’s repeated exposure to shellfish increased his risk of hypersensitivity to the substance, but his overproduction of IgE caused the allergy because he was genetically predisposed to that overproduction. Lots of people eat shellfish for entire lifetimes and never become allergic.
      Not to be mean or anything, but you and your husband passed on “bad” genes to your child.
      We all do that on some level…we called that “Sexual Reproduction” in middle school science class.

      Admitting to having genetic deficiencies is hard for some people, but we all have a few.
      No reason to fear them or make excuses for them…it’s just biology, and no human body works exactly as we’d like it to work on all levels.
      There are defective genes in all of us, most cause no problems…some can make you more susceptible to breast cancer, some more susceptible to allergies.

      Doesn’t make you any less genetically defective to deny that you are…we all are to some degree more or less. You cannot blame the environment for allergies when not everyone living in that environment becomes allergic to a thing. You have to ask why some do and some don’t.

      Answer: the other kids can eat peanuts and peanuts could kill yours because yours is genetically defective…just like the rest of us.
      But who am I telling…right?

      Jun 25, 2011 at 12:11 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.19   Canthz_B bang


      And just for fun I just gotta ask, how would you feel about a HOA making a rule that there be a peanut-free area in the community clubhouse to accommodate your child’s needs?
      How dare you “demand for” your son anything anywhere when you say people have the right to not be ruled by rules? You don’t have the right to ask for anyone to do anything for you if you’re unwilling to give anything for anyone else.
      Is “hypocrite” a word that refers to one who’d refuse to move into a community which has even reasonable rules, but would have others practice particularly meticulous hygiene just because her kid has an allergy?
      They shouldn’t have to provide a special area for your little genetic defect, he should find a safe place to eat. What? You want to crowd all of the other kids just so your kid and the one other defective product of conception in the school can have a table to themselves?

      Pass the Jiffy. I wanna spread it all over this place.

      What about HOAs which designate handicapped parking spaces? Are those OK? You, CC, don’t like rules unless they work in your favor, then you’re all for them.

      Jun 25, 2011 at 2:04 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.20   chesire cat

      Umm your argument sucks dude. I don’t live in a HOA so no way they could make any rules for or against me because it doesn’t exist. So you are arguing fantasy.

      Now schools, they are not HOA. They are government and the government is required by law to accomodate all special needs and disabilities. Food allergies are now considered a disability. So if I wanted to raise a big fuss and demand the whole school go peanut free I could I guess. I won’t because its not necessary. There is not even a reason to crowd anyone. Just sit someone without peanuts in their lunch next to him on the end, like his twin brother. I will provide him wipes in his lunchbox to wipe off the table and seat before he sits down to make sure its not covered with peanuts. Having kids wash their hands after they eat is something they should be doing anyway! It is not overly hygienic. Have you ever SEEN kids eat? They get food all over their hands and faces! So the school would probably be a lot cleaner and the kids would get sick less when everyone starts washing hands after they eat. They will probably thank me for that one.

      The other alternative if having the kids wash their hands is just too hard is go completely peanut free, but that is not necessary and that will put hardships on other families and I would rather not ask or have that done. Hand washing and letting him sit on the end of the table and letting him keep some safe treats in the classroom is more than enough to keep him safe.

      You are right its a genetic defect. Everyone has them including you. Our family has bad environmental and food allergies. We also have high intellect and math abilities. Fair enough trade off I guess.

      Jun 25, 2011 at 5:55 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.21   scott

      So Canthz B, why not dump that perfume into the water table while you’re at it? Cause what you’re obtusely not addressing is that we all have to share the same air whether we want to or not. Which also applies to noise pollution, and even light pollution (the reason we can hardly see the stars at night). I’m in favor of treading softly and doing our best to leave the air and water unmolested.

      Jun 25, 2011 at 10:46 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.22   Canthz_B bang

      No, CC, not arguing fantasy but presenting you with a hypothetical and reminding you of your strong support of community rules (handicapped parking) when they happen to work in your favor.
      I don’t know how your school-aged children eat, but neither I, my contemporaries nor my children ate like pigs. Maybe you should teach some etiquette and basic table manners to yours.
      Somehow, when I was a child we didn’t need assigned seating at lunchtime. No one designated seating arrangements for us based upon allergies. We sat with our friends.
      Personally, I think only a fool would demand that their hyperallergic child be exposed to the unpredictable environments associated with the public schools, no matter what the law requires. We all know how often requirements are not met, don’t we? And trusting a child to be responsible enough to pay due diligence would be similarly foolish…children being only children.

      After saying “All I would demand for my son was a peanut free lunch table or little area for him so he is not sitting right next to someone eating peanuts and for students to wash their hands after eating so no peanut butter on their hands gets spread around where my son can touch it.”, you change to just let him sit on the end next to his twin brother. First of all, maybe his twin brother would rather sit with his friends at lunchtime. Secondly, maybe your kids won’t have the same lunch period. Either way, you are asking for rules which are for the benefit of yourself and your child only, which you accuse some HOAs of doing for themselves…making rules that suit them but not necessarily everyone, especially you. That makes you a hypocrite.
      There’s no trade-off, CC. I too have high intellect and a very high math IQ, so do my siblings and children. We didn’t get them at the expense of having to have allergies as we have none. Nice try though. You really think you’re smarter because you have allergies? LOL
      What’s so hard about admitting that none of us is perfect, some are less perfect than others and there’s really no need to try to find mitigating circumstances? To be sure, one need not have allergies to have a high IQ, right? I’m sure there are many here with high IQs and no allergies. So how was that a trade-off? Where was anything traded?

      Scott, you are correct. We all have to share the same air (you know, the air which contains truck and bus exhaust, but still think a little perfume will destroy your lungs?), and no one has the right to impose restrictions beyond the law upon what can be in our shared air. Last time I checked, perfume isn’t covered by the Clean Air Act.

      As far as dumping things into the water tables, even your unscented products find their way into those.

      These just words from one genetically defective human being to the rest of them: Face facts, it’s not so hard and it’s nothing personal. ;-)

      Jun 26, 2011 at 11:27 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.23   Chesire Cat

      SO then what is your solution? He never becomes educated and lives off of disability for his food allergy the rest of his life since the schools do not want to make it safe for him to attend? And don’t just say homeschool because that is not an appropriate solution. Not every family has a parent at home that is capable of homeschooling. As a matter of fact in our state unless you have a BS you cannot legally homeschool a child of high school age. Plus homeschooling costs money. So if the family of the food allergic child cannot afford homeschool books then what?

      I am speaking in general here not just of our situation. Since you seem to think any food allergic child should not be in school. Then what exactly is your solution? Should the government pay a parent to stay home and educate the child themselves and provide books, lab materials, computers, etc for free? Or send in tutors? I guess you don’t mind your taxes going sky high then? Because like it or not food allergies are protected class and disability now so the government has to work with them. I think they should be able to go to school with everyone else and just some small measures be made to make them safe. You argue that is not okay. Then what is your solution oh wise one?!

      My kids eat just like every other 4 year old I know. With getting it all over them. I worked at a daycare. I know how kids eat and peanut butter can and will get on your hands or the table.

      I do make my child somewhat responsible for his allergy for his age level. He knows he can’t eat peanuts. He knows he has to only eat what mommy gives him since it could have peanuts. He knows that the table needs to be wiped down and at school age be able to do it himself. He will eventually be taught to pick out food for himself and carry an epipen and learn to inject himself when he is older. Kids have to be taught to handle it themselves. My 4 year old does great with his allergy. He has never eaten food he should not have and never had an accidental ingestion reaction. He’s really smart about it.

      Jun 27, 2011 at 5:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.24   Nunavut Gut

      He could always intern ay the Planter’s factory.

      Jun 27, 2011 at 7:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.25   Canthz_B bang

      CC, my solutions are on a case by case basis, while you seem to think all children’s food allergies are as severe as your child’s is.
      You yet again demonstrate your black and white view of the world.
      In some cases providing a tutor would be appropriate. In others the child can simply be linked to the classroom via the internet and a webcam, mic and speakers and participate fully in class without being physically present. Not very expensive or disruptive of the lives of the other students at all, and the school system avoids a potential liability law suit should someone screw-up and bring a peanut product to school that your child reacts to. Kinda makes better sense, huh? Saves the taxpayers a whole lot more to keep your kid out than to pay you for a mistake.
      It’s the 21st century after all, and teleconferencing is quite common.
      There really aren’t so many kids who’d die if exposed to an allergen that it would burst our collective tax burden.

      I can come up with lots more solutions to fit differing circumstances (euthanasia comes to mind, where’s the kid gonna work when he grows up? Or should every workplace now ban peanuts so your child can be employed? Euthanasia, disability check, or do you think he’ll likely telecommute if not self-employed?), but this oh wise one thinks he’s made his point that acceptable accommodations can be made for your child without adversely affecting the healthy by depriving them of what they’d normally enjoy (peanut products) were it not for the presence of your death-defying child.

      I’d have thought that you above all else here would know that sometimes we have to accept that we cannot do everything all of the others do because of our particular health concerns. That we have to live in a society not necessarily designed to accommodate our every need because a large majority has other needs.
      But I guess not.
      We’re willing to give up a few parking spaces for you, so you think we should make our children give up foods they like because of your child as well?
      Well, depriving our children of Snickers bars, Reece’s peanut butter cups, etc. isn’t the same as giving you a parking space.
      My children were home-schooled, but we were by no means rich. We did what we had to do and made the necessary sacrifices to get that done. My girls are both college grads now.
      Perhaps you may need to sacrifice a little for your child as well. No one said being a parent was supposed to be easy, and it’s not the government’s job to make it any much more easier for you if you happen to have to make some hard choices along the way such as telling your kid, “Hey, Little Fella, you’re too sickly to go to school with the other kids.”
      But no, you’d rather teach your child that all of the other children should not have PB&J sandwiches because he’s more important than them having a sandwich they enjoy. That the world should revolve around his needs.
      Thing is, the other kids like PB&J sandwiches, and you have no right to dictate what everyone else’s child may enjoy at lunchtime should they choose to provide that lunch item for them.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 5:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #86.26   Chesire Cat

      Way to miss the point again. Where did I say I wanted a peanut ban? The other kids can have their peanut butter sandwiches all they want. They just need to wash their hands afterwards and not sit directly next to my son. Way to totally miss what I said there. I DO NOT want a peanut ban. I think that is more harmful for most allergic kids because it does not teach kids to be careful. If he is washing his hands and wiping off the table and seat that is making him more aware of his allergy which will be better in the long run for when he has to go out in the big world on his own. It is good that he might have to ask a friend if he can read the label before he tries the snack his friend offers. These are good lessons. I have never called for peanut bans. Just a couple lesser and simple precautions.

      You do know that if the government wants to keep allergic kids out of public schools they have to provide the computers, microphones, headsets, internet service with tax dollars to the kids at home right? The parents would not be legally responsible to provide any of that. So that is still going to raise taxes a whole bunch and it really is not necessary for most food allergic kids. Only a very very very rare amount of kids are allergic to a point that just smelling peanuts could cause a reaction. My son is not that bad. He only reacts badly if it is on his skin or he eats it. Even if it gets on his skin he just gets a rash that while unpleasant is not going to kill him.

      I have never tried to dictate what other people’s kids eat and I resent you say that about me since I am the EXACT opposite of that!!!! I have had moms tell me they didn’t want to let their kids eat their pb sandwich around my son and I told them they could no problem. Just wipe their sons’s hands off afterwards and not sit right next to him. They were surprised how cool I was about it!

      There are plenty of places to work where he would have no contact with peanuts. Just not in food establishments like restaurants or factories but for anything else it would cause no problem. Just do like he does now. Bring his own food in. Wash off counters and tables before eating. Adults are better about washing their hands and being neat eaters than kids so no problem there. It would cause no problem to work in an office.

      Jul 13, 2011 at 5:22 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #87   Amy

    I’m pregnant and smells bothered me for a while. I got some of the unscented detergent and around that time I noticed that clothes were not getting clean at all. I thought maybe because it was spring, and kids are playing outside more, until I made the connection…that stuff sucks! You might as well just wash with plain water. So YES, Alan, you are asking too much. I’m not going to let my clothes get stained because you are a sensitive, entitled ass. Apartment living can be hard, deal.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 3:56 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #87.1   Belinda

      I, with my line of “Free” laundry products, do not smell and am cleaner than most of my neighbors.
      I hypothesize people who need those chemical toxic waste scents to “clean” their clothes (read “cover up their vile smell”) are the smelly ones?
      How many does do you wear your underwear for it to require a scented detergent to clean? I wear mine for one day and it has no smell and is perfectly clean being washed in cold water with “Free” detergent and dryer sheets. I think it’s you.
      So basically, Alan is the clean one and all the smelly detergent lovers must be covered with some kind of smelly bacteria that doesn’t live on my body. . .
      This issue doesn’t bring out the PA in me—just the A.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 6:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #87.2   lagne

      Rather than jump your case, Amy (geez), I’ll partially agree – some brands of “free” detergent are higher-quality othan others. I’ve tried several, and All Free & Clear is definitely my favorite. I love the idea of the organic/green ones, but unfortunately they just hadn’t gotten, or kept, my clothes as clean as I like.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 6:58 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #87.3   jadefirefly

      @Belinda – You’ll never convince a normal, adult human being that your underwear has NO ODOR WHATSOEVER after being worn all day.

      Any credibility you might have had, aside from the fact that you seem to think that anyone who doesn’t agree with you is functionally retarded, is officially lost.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 12:28 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #87.4   Chesire Cat

      She was saying her underwear does not smell after washing it after wearing it for one day. Mine doesn’t either after I washed it with all free and clear. All free and clear does not always do so well with getting stains out unfortunately so we have a lot of stained clothing, but it gets smells out. My skin will flake off and start to fall off and get red if I use that super strong industrial detergents. Same with antibacterial soaps. We have to use the regular gentle hand soap and Ivory. We don’t use fabric softener or dryer sheets. We just wash the clothes with All free and clear and then dry them. They get clean but not all the tough stains come out. Sometimes I have to wash stuff multiple times with Shout Advance to get out stains or they just never come out. I am not sure even Tide extra would get some of the stains though. With kids you just get stained clothing since they can be so messy.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 7:16 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #87.5   Chesire Cat

      Wanted to add we certainly do not smell. We bathe daily and wear deoderant.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 7:20 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #87.6   bookworm

      This thread is like a bad advertisement for detergent.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 12:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #87.7   Amy

      Belinda, I didn’t say Free and Clear detergent failed to cover my whatever you said (skanky?) smell. Seems you might have a bit of a complex. When I said smells bothered me, that was to explain why I deviated from my normal scented detergent to try the Free and Clear stuff (you know, because THE DETERGENT doesn’t have a smell?).

      Since you asked, I am currently going through two pairs of underwear a day. As I mentioned earlier, I am pregnant and that can cause discharge, which can smell bad. I’m sure you understand. I just get that not-so-fresh feeling. ;) My normal rate of changing underwear is once a day.

      All I said was it didn’t get the clothes clean and didn’t imply that anyone who used Free and Clear stuff smelled. If I just had to do laundry for myself, with a relatively clean lifestyle, perhaps the Free stuff would be fine. But I have a family with kids who play outside and now that it is summer they are playing outside a whole lot more than they were when I did the Free and Clear experiment. Even though they come home dirtier now than they did then, there are a lot less stains left after the wash using regular detergent.

      I noticed the same thing when I used Dreft for baby clothes, and that has a baby powder smell. So no, it’s not just limited to free and clear detergents but free and clear detergents don’t work for my needs.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 2:56 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #88   Kate

    1) Get bent Alan
    2) The laundry room was there before you were.
    3) I’ll wash my laundry with whatever products I choose.
    4) Get bent

    Oh, and did I say to get bent?

    Jun 22, 2011 at 4:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #89   Kimberly

    Eh, i think they’re not entirely out of line. The people in my complex who live next to the laundry room (which has a bunch of acoustic tiling to lessen the noise) complained so much, that you have to be OUT of the laundry room by 9pm, and if the neighbors complain, you get one warning, then evicted. I hate when the people who use the washer before me leave remnants of bleach around the edges or their scented dryer sheets around, as I’m highly allergic to that crap. But it’s hard to find one bedroom places with their own washer/dryer around here.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 4:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #89.1   Seanette

      Time to move someplace where ALL tenants have rights to use of facilities they’re paying for access to, not just one apartment of entitled crybabies. Maybe once management gets sick of losing tenants (read: money) because of this, they’ll capture a clue.

      Jun 22, 2011 at 5:55 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

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    Jun 22, 2011 at 5:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #91   Nunavut Guy

    My oh my…..just like the office dwellers with a million issues,you folks sure are a sickly lot.I think a giant dose of peanut butter in the water supply followed by a crop spraying of Fabreeze should thin out most of you.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 7:00 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #91.1   Chesire Cat

      I find that offensive. Just because this dude has allergies and is an asshole does not mean everyone with allergies are automatically assholes.

      Our family is fairly sickly with allergies including a child with a peanut allergy. We don’t make it other people’s problems though. We handle it by ourselves. I bring him food when we go places that might not have peanut free food. We don’t demand everyone else to go peanut free. We take our allergy and asthma medicine and deal when it comes to others cats or allergens we encounter.

      So before you paint all allergy sufferers as assholes you might want to pull that stick out of your ass and realize that not every allergy sufferer makes a huge deal out of it.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 7:10 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #91.2   Rattus

      And my issue with the stuff is not allergy related – I just think it stinks. So my whining about it is pretty much on a level with your whining about allergy sufferers in that we are not affected in a physical way but still choose to complain.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 7:15 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #91.3   The Elf

      Technically, Alan didn’t say he has an allergy. We just assumed that. He says he hates the smell of it.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 8:39 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #91.4   Nunavut Guy

      I’m a big fan of natural selection.

      Jun 25, 2011 at 7:31 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #91.5   Nunavut Guy

      Oh,and I could care less about what you find offensive.

      Jun 25, 2011 at 7:55 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #91.6   The Elf

      Thankfully for those of us with scent allergies and fragrance sensitivities, it does not inhibit survival. Darwin can suck it on that one.

      Jun 25, 2011 at 8:30 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #91.7   Nunavut Guy

      I wish I could remember the comedian who said this.

      “If your kid is so allergic to peanuts that he can’t touch a doorknob that was opened by another child who touched peanuts three days ago then I have some advice for you…………Don’t get too attached to him.

      Jun 25, 2011 at 10:14 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #91.8   Chesire cat

      hardy har har. My son isn’t that allergic. Not even close. At most he would get a skin rash or hives if he touched some peanut stuff. Happened once when I was stupid and left some peanut butter on a spoon out and he touched it. He had a rash. Big whoop but not something you want happening every day. Nobody likes rashes. The real danger is actual ingestion which is easily prevented.

      So I guess that means if you get married and your wife gives birth to a retarded or even food allergic child or a child with anything wrong with it whatsoever, you are going to drown it in the bathtub????

      Jun 29, 2011 at 10:08 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #91.9   Chesire Cat

      haha still no reply to my ever pertinent question then? I win. You either admit you would murder someone with a disability or handicap or you admit you are wrong. Win win for me.

      Jul 1, 2011 at 9:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #92   Jenn

    At least he saves a bundle on air fresheners :)

    No but srsly, homeboy needs to move. If he gets a legit doctor note and shows it to the office, they’d probably let him transfer for free.

    But he sounds like he’d find something to complain about no matter where he lives. And if some dude threw away my soap I’d probably shank him. If he wants me to go buy the “non cheap laundry soap” he better buy it for me, ’cause that isn’t coming out of my college student budget.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 8:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #93   suz

    About the scent thing, he’s an ass. One can only assume he knew the laundry room was there when he agreed to rent the place, and if he was especially sensitive to scents, he shouldn’t have moved there.

    The time request is more reasonable, I think, though it would definitely be better (and more effective) for him to go to management about that.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 10:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #94   easily distracted

    Something tells me that when Alan tosses everyone’s stuff he’ll make up excuses to not reimburse them like he promised.
    After reminding everyone that he warned them, he’ll insist they prove it was their stuff he threw out, then argue the detergents were used so he doesn’t owe them full price.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 10:52 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #95   fibrowitch

    Hey Al –
    Have a got a woman for you! She lives on the opposite side of the building from the laundry room. She lives in the back of the building, on the other side of the building as the smoking area. Yet on a regular basis when the mood hits her she will go unplug the laundry machines, or call management and complain that she can smell the smoke on the other side of the building. We live on a beach, she has complained about the smell of the ocean! I tried to point out to her one day that the ocean was here FIRST.

    Jun 22, 2011 at 11:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #96   Greg

    Sheldon is real!!

    Jun 23, 2011 at 2:16 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #97   Madrias

    I’d be tempted to go into the laundry room, toss a ratty old towel in the washer, and dump not one, but 5 bottles of absolutely cheap laundry detergent in there. I’d also sit down there and make sure he couldn’t get in there to unplug or turn off my stink-wash. After it washes, I’d then dry it with no less than 3 boxes of dryer sheets. Of course, I’d have to pass it through the dryer a few more times to get all the soap dried out of it, then fold it nicely, pin it to his door, and write on it, “For the ass who thinks he owns the laundry room, I’d kindly recommend you to move to some other apartment. I will continue these towel washes until either you move or provide all the cleaning products for your totalitarian hostile takeover of the laundry room. After all, free stuff is good, and sharing your obviously non-vile cleaning compounds must make everyone’s clothes better. There’ll be another perfume bomb in 3 days. Thanks, the resident next door.”

    Jun 23, 2011 at 3:24 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #97.1   Suzi

      I wouldn’t go that far, but I would be tempted to find all the empty soap boxes I could, put maybe one load’s worth of smelly powder in it, and then every evening, put on a wash using said smelly powder, and leave the almost-empty box down there. After a few nights of reimbursing me the cost of one box of soap powder in exchange for tossing my single-serving smelly boxes, either he’ll get sick of it, or I’ll get too rich to care what my laundry smells like.

      Jun 23, 2011 at 3:31 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #98   CJ

    No, he is most definitely, an ass.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 8:46 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #99   sab

    yes, he may be a ass BUT some of that cheap laundry stuff smells nasty! my downstairs neighbor uses the cheapest floral dryer sheets and everytime i walk out side and smell it i want to puke!

    Jun 23, 2011 at 9:05 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #100   Languagegeek

    Y’all 9:55-10:30 laundry starters have got to get it right — Washing tennis balls and pennies starts at 11:25 p.m. (early enough to wake someone up and be annoying, but late enough that the annoyed will have to lie in bed and debate for a few minutes whether it’s worth getting up to turn off).

    And the games only begin once you are in possession to the key to the laundry room door. If there is no lock, someone needs to spring for one. Leave the laundry room unlocked during the day (up to 10:00 p.m.). Then give keys to everyone in the building EXCEPT him.

    Mwah ha. Mwah hahahahaha. MWAH ha ha ha HA!

    These are not the types of challenge you want to issue to me.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 9:48 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #100.1   Seanette

      I really like the way your mind works. :)

      Jun 23, 2011 at 10:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #101   Kimberly

    Whenever I walk down my street someone’s house always smells like laundry. It smells up the entire area. Unlike Alan, I love it and almost want to ask them what products they use so I can buy them.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 10:15 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #102   Charlie

    This reminds me of people who move next to an airport or sports complex and then complain about the noise. If Alan is senssitive to aromas, he should have done his due diligence on the apartment’s location before moving in.

    I have no sympathy for his plight.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 10:32 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #103   MargetheSarge

    I seriously don’t even understand how so many people can be so wussified. What makes you all so sickly and allergic to everything? We used to call sickly, allergic types “strained through a blanket.” People like that were supposed to be weeded out of the population already!

    Jun 23, 2011 at 11:43 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #104   bookworm

    Here’s an easy solution for Alan that will make everybody happy! Why not move away from his apartment directly above a laundry room if he is so allergic to normal laundry room scents? Why move in above a laundry room in the first place?

    Alan is not just an ass, he is an idiot.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 11:52 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #105   KS

    There’s no way around it, Alan is, unequivocally, an ass.
    Why would anyone who loathes the scents that fill most laundry rooms (and waft into apartments that are above said laundry rooms), move into an apartment above the damn laundry room?!! Common sense should have alerted dear Alan to the fact that this particular apartment probably wouldn’t be the ideal one for him. Noooo, instead Alan feels he has the right to dictate to people how they can do their laundry. What laundry products they’re allowed, etc. Entitlement at it’s finest. Perhaps Alan should relocate?

    Jun 23, 2011 at 12:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #106   Miss Kitty Fantastico

    I don’t think he’s necessarily an ass, but I’d say he’s more “wrong” than “right” in this situation. He’s being way too demanding of everyone else that lives in the apartment building.

    People can’t be expected to always do their laundry around his schedule. Maybe they work nights and sleep during the day. Maybe they get home late and need clothes for the next day. Maybe their cat horked on the bed and they need to wash their sheets ASAP.

    As for smelly detergent… I love the smell of fresh laundry. I hate using the scent free stuff, it takes away the tiny bit of fun I get out of laundry.

    It does feel like Alan is trying to be a nice guy about it, but the requests are just selfish and unreasonable. If he had such serious allergies, he never should have accepted the apartment.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 12:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #107   Jason

    Alan would probably try to kill me. I would do the opposite to spite him and make him come down to the laundry room. I’m 6ft7 and 330 lbs and if Alan had anything to say when he got to the laundry room he would most likely forget what it was.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 1:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #108   Lili

    I didn’t read the other comments, but hopefully this is unanimous: he’s an ass.

    I hate the smell of synthetic scents probably as much as Alan. That’s why, if I lived in his apartment, you know what I’d do?

    I’d get an air filter or find another apartment.

    I don’t care if he’s allergic. Get another apartment!

    I don’t care if your kid is allergic. Get another apartment!

    Jun 23, 2011 at 1:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #109   mcsarah

    You can’t shut if off because it’s bugging you, but every ‘shared laundry’ apartment building I have ever lived in had posted hours that you could use it. Usually ending at 9:30 or 10.

    I am sorry for those that work late and need to wash clothes, but just as I am happy to tell this ass hat that he should think about moving if he can’t handle the smells of the restaurant/Chinese family/laundry room/hippy or whatever else might happen to be smelly below him, I am also happy to tell people who NEED to do laundry at 2am to move somewhere with private laundry. Shared living involves having some consideration for others, and that includes following the posted rules if they bother the tenants nearby.

    I can guess that I would be VERY irritated if I lived above the laundry room and people did laundry at all hours of the night.

    But regardless Alan is an ass and I happen to agree that overwhelming smells in general (hi to you ‘too much cologne wearing guy!) can be gross, although I do like Gain myself.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 5:30 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #110   Eileen

    Hey Alan, if breathing in the scent of laundry is such a problem for you, why not just stop breathing? Do the world a favor. Unless you own this building, you do not have the right to control what other people do with their laundry. F*** off and die.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 7:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #111   Chris of Seattle

    As a person who wears clothes and has used almost every single laundromat in the Greater Seattle area, I must rule that Alan in Seattle is – in fact – an ass.

    Scented soaps aren’t that obnoxious – even if you do live above said laundromat. Hell, I live in an attic apartment located in a home that was built in 1912. Needless to say, the floorboards are in need of being sealed – and you know what? I don’t threaten to confiscate Ziplock baggies when my pothead neighbor lights up.

    Sometimes we just need to suck it up and deal. Alan – just be happy that it’s ‘Mountain Mist’ & ‘Ocean Breeze’, and not ‘Back Alley Dumpster’ or ‘Urinating Crack Addict’. Also – if I ever use your laundromat and I find my soap missing, I’m coming to find you – and I’m not coming for a chat.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 8:10 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #112   Lauraei

    He’s really just an ass. I used to live above a laundry room, and the smell doesn’t permeate that badly. Regardless, he doesn’t have the right to tell others what products people can or cannot use. The point about turning off the washer or dryer bugs me too; some people work funky shifts or work for jobs where they get orders at the last minute that they have to leave town the next day and have to do laundry (my husband was put in that predicament many times, which lead to washing clothes at midnight). I certainly understand asking people to keep the noise level down, but these requests are out of line.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 9:21 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #113   Antonia

    The only way Alan is NOT an ass is if he moved to that apartment before they put the laundry room there. If he moved in knowing perfectly well what he was getting into, then he needs to either deal with it or move.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 10:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #114   BeQui

    Why doesn’t he just buy a bunch of scent free detergent and ask people *nicely* to use that instead? It’d probably be cheaper than paying for replacements of everyone’s detergent, and I’d happily use the free unscented stuff to save a few bucks.

    Do they make unscented dryer sheets? I’m not a fan of the smell, but some of my stuff is just super static-y when it comes out if I don’t use them.

    Jun 23, 2011 at 11:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #114.1   The Elf

      Yes, they do make unscented dryer sheets. Try Bounce Free.

      Jun 24, 2011 at 12:21 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #115   Brittany

    I live above the laundry room in my apartment and have never heard or smelled anything from it? If I did I would deal with it or move…It is unreasonable to expect everyone to use non-scented laundry products just for one stranger.

    Jun 24, 2011 at 12:52 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #116   Yuli

    Given the contents of his letter, I think it is safe to assume that the laundry facility is open 24-7. This means that, regardless of Alan’s or anyone else’s laundry preferences, his neighbors are doing nothing wrong. Even if he does have allergies (which doesn’t appear to be the case), the noise/smell issue is definitely his problem, and by extension, management’s problem. If the management won’t do anything, then he needs to move.

    So Alan, yes, demanding that everyone in your building change their laundry habits just to suit your whims and then threatening to interfere with those who don’t comply with your completely unreasonable demands does indeed make you an ass. In fact, I think your neighbors would be well within their rights to report YOU to the management. Shutting down people’s washers or dryers while they are in the middle of a cycle? You are the only one doing anything wrong here.

    Jun 24, 2011 at 12:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #117   Yuli

    I should add that if the laundry facility DOES have posted hours, then yes, I think his after-hours complaint is totally legit. Since he didn’t mention official hours in his letter, I am inclined to think that the “after 10pm” thing is just another royal decree. I myself have never lived in a complex where communal laundry facilities weren’t open 24 hours.

    Jun 24, 2011 at 12:19 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #118   alicia

    ok, alan, i am moving to your apartment, with my large load of tennis shoes, and i am goignt o make the washer(s) extermely unbalanced and load them up with all the different soap products i can find. and im going to run them at 11 sharp. and sit there while they do it so that you cant turn them off.

    how do you like them apples?

    Jun 27, 2011 at 1:43 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #119   wonderman

    Alan probably speeds around in parking lots too.

    Jun 27, 2011 at 3:59 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #120   Scarlytte

    Oh hey, sounds like midnight would be the perfect time to wash all the TA-50 for a TA-50 layout the following day after being in the field the week prior.

    All that clanking, tumbling, and you have to use the strongest smelling detergent you can find or else it’ll smell like burnt rubber and corpse even after washing.

    Yeah, I like that idea. Let him try to get all PA with military equipment.

    Jun 27, 2011 at 9:47 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #121   Bcteagirl


    Thank you for the written confession of crimes you are planning to commit. I have very carefully taken down your note (And I am assume fingerprint specimens?) as potential evidence.

    I will be showing the super your threats and keeping the note in case the authorities need to be involved.

    If anyone in this building finds their laundry detergent/fresheners missing or their laundry tampered with please contact the super (insert number here) immediately. We will then pass on the note to the authorities so that you can begin formally pressing charges.

    Apartment Dwellers Against Bullying

    Jun 28, 2011 at 11:51 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #122   Rebs

    ASS. Really? People are fucking morons.

    Jul 5, 2011 at 11:02 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #123   Scott

    What a big baby! So everyone has to switch their laundry products just to make this one crybaby happy? Everyone in the building should get together and find a way to throw this person out.

    Sounds kinda like that pussy cousin of Kyle named Kyle on South Park. Always complaining and whining about everything, allergic to everything, can’t digest this and that kind of food. Hypochondriacs. These types are better off dead! LOL

    Jul 6, 2011 at 7:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #124   kristin

    Way to rent the apartment above the laundry room and assume that at that point forward you are the king of laundry room conduct & usage.

    Maybe next time you should consider the location of your unit prior to signing a lease… ASS.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 9:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #125   Jay

    Dear Alan,
    If you have such a problem with the delightful scent of Gain detergents and softeners, please GET OVER YOURSELF!! If you throw away my detergent, I will throw something of yours away, then “reimburse you so you can get something more neighbor friendly.” Also, if I have been at work ALL DARN DAY, and WORKED OVERTIME, and don’t get home before ten, I’m going to do my laundry, because I don’t particularly want to be fired for being at work naked.

    Jul 11, 2011 at 10:12 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #126   zelmia

    In fairness, it’s quite possible that when Alan took the apartment above the laundry room he simply didn’t know that the smell and the noise would be such an issue. After all, we can’t know what to expect in terms of noise – and certainly in terms of smells – until we actually live somewhere for a bit.
    But having said that, even if this guy owns the building, it is completely unreasonable to expect everyone else to adjust their lives for him. He has to know this, hence the “Maybe I’m an ass___”.

    Jul 16, 2011 at 3:40 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #127   liz

    Wow, what a dick. It’s usually not too hard to switch apartments in the same building. If he hates that placement so much, well, 1: he shouldn’t have taken the place, obviously. But regardless, now that he has and it’s a problem: Fucking DEAL with it, dude, or GTFO. Living with others is smelly. And noisy. And hell yeah people do my laundry late at night when no one else does; you expect everyone to revolve their lives around you? Grow up, seriously.

    Jul 17, 2011 at 3:17 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #128   jennyrose76

    I feel like no matter how he feels about scented laundry detergent, and no matter what the reason, he is an indeed an ass. Unless he owns the building, this note and its ultimatums to the other tenants is heavy-handed and cuntish. If you have a problem with your fellow tenants, and you have “asked numerous times for them all to comply” with no results, then go to management.

    Grow up. You aren’t a special snowflake, and everyone doesn’t need to bow to your demands-I’m going to go out on a limb and say that he likely wasn’t polite or friendly when making the previous requests either. He doesn’t seem to understand that his needs, on mere merit of being HIS, don’t automatically trump the needs/wants of everyone else. Alan chose to live above a laundry room-if he is THAT sensitive to smells, be it because of allergies or just personal preference, then this was a pretty stupid move.

    And just because you don’t like something does NOT give you the right to take other people’s things from a communal area. There are lots of things in my building that aren’t up to my own personal preferences-do I steal them or make unreasonable demands to my fellow tenants? Nope. I chalk it up to apartment living, which is what Alan needs to do. Either that or he needs to find a quiet cabin in the woods, where the smells of the world won’t impede his awesomeness and superiority.

    I have nothing but sympathy for people with awful allergies-but I have no sympathy for Alan, or anyone else who thinks the world revolves around them. What a dick.

    Jul 21, 2011 at 9:15 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up


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