See, this is why people hate vegans.

July 6th, 2011 · 788 comments

“When I moved in a year ago, my roommate was an ovo-lacto vegetarian, whereas I was (and still am) an omnivore,” explains our submitter in Brooklyn. “She used to not care about my eating habits, but about four months ago she decided to become a full-blown vegan and has been insufferable since then. Yesterday I went food shopping for myself, and when I came back from work today I found this letter on my bedside table.”

(Yeah, the writing is a little hard to read — just wait for the page to load completely, and then click the images below to enlarge.)

I have to be blunt with you.

Why do you buy SO MUCH meat?

related: Carnivore? Keep being awesome!

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788 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Windsor Grace

    I gotta be honest, I’m totally not going to read all of that nonsense. If I saw it in real life, I’d probably laugh and either throw in away or keep walking

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:07 pm   rating: 242  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   Lindsey

      I would’ve eaten it…if it was covered in meat.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:15 pm   rating: 390  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.2   Jordie

      I am so with you guys. It wasn’t addressed to me, but I found myself getting PISSED OFF just reading it! That very INTOLERANT chick would be finding raw chicken in her bed and eggs smeared on her walls.

      I do, however, wonder which girl has her name on the lease. That would make all the difference, wouldn’t it?

      Jul 6, 2011 at 11:03 pm   rating: 461  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.3   Chaz French

      Since this is tagged “Brooklyn” in NYC it doesn’t matter if your name is on a lease or not, if you’ve lived in any apartment for more than 30 days you are a resident. It’s damn near impossible to get rid of someone after that.

      That said, had I been on the receiving end of this, they’d have gotten that note back, used to wrap a very rare bacon cheese burger with an egg and some honey mustard on it.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 1:36 am   rating: 197  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.4   Jack Blackjack

      I will send you your note, and I’m waiting for my burger!

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:31 am   rating: 144  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.5   cTo

      Hmm. Since you cant kick her out of the apartment, and she apparently doesnt want to leave, and she has obviously proved her ability for passive-aggressiveness, my first concern would be that she would start just throwing the roommate’s food away that she doesnt agree with.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:33 pm   rating: 83  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.6   bookworm

      I’d invest in a deadbolt for the refrigerator. Vegan roomie doesn’t want to look at meat products? Now she doesn’t have to!

      Of course, now she has to invest in her own mini-fridge, but that’s a small price to pay for acting like an entitled twunt.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 1:35 pm   rating: 400  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.7   Peg

      Amen!!!!! You said it so very precisely.

      Jul 11, 2011 at 11:40 am   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #2   Luke

    I have never wanted to slap someone more than the writer of this note.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:10 pm   rating: 799  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   Roto13

      I KNOW! I read this note and I seriously want to meet this person so I can punch them in the stomach.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:16 pm   rating: 107  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.2   pony girl

      Me three!
      I almost want this to happen to me, so I can vent the rage.

      and there’s no sense having a reasonable discussion with the note writer (for example, that abusing children is illegal, eating slim jims is not.)
      She is obviously a zealot. There’s no reasoning with them.

      I suggest finding a new place to live, and when all of their things are out of that apartment, dumping a few pounds of raw meat on her bed.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:31 pm   rating: 223  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.3   startup

      Can I talk to you (letter writer) about your personal relationship with Christ?

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:41 pm   rating: 488  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.4   Marty

      I totally agree…and I’m a vegetarian.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:19 pm   rating: 222  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.5   Rattus

      Yep. Slappity slap slap slap.

      My husband is a vegetarian of thirty years, and he buys me meat every week at the farmer’s market. That’s because he is sane. To thank him for the meat supply, I quit smoking and don’t complain when he wants sex at times that are inconvenient to me. Unless it’s during an eviction episode of Big Brother.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 9:23 pm   rating: 663  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.6   Mama Rizzo

      SERIOUSLY! If I were the person on the receiving end of that note, I’d have had bitchslap mode in full effect by the end of the first sentence.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 10:41 pm   rating: 50  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.7   Kathleen

      I will be in line next to you…. eating a Slim Jim.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 11:09 pm   rating: 65  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.8   Daniforest

      Despite being a true omnivore (I’ve eaten dozens of types of meat, including dog in China), I hear the heart of where the vegan is coming from. For her, it IS comparable to human abuse, as she cannot demote these animals to a lesser plane of existence.

      You wouldn’t gently talk to a person beating their dog on the street, or quietly go about your business if you saw it. You’d feel like a pathetic monster if you did. You would snatch the dog from the person and report them to the authorities. Vegans and vegetarians have no such authorities, and are as passionate about this as we would be about a stranger’s dog left out in a hot car.

      Animals are not meat-machines. They are living, breathing, sensing beings. Ask any pet-owner — this is not a philosophy, belief system, or debatable issue. Thus, wasting their meat, and raising them in torturous conditions is wrong and reprehensible. It’s not ok, nor is it a “lifestyle choice.”

      Having said that, nature is nature, and biology biology. I still eat meat. I like it. It helps me function and focus better. I believe my biology depends on their biology. But I try to only eat meat that has been humanely raised and killed, and I try to treat it respectfully.

      I’d be ticked off, too, if I received this letter. I’d think we should definitely live in different places, and I’d think that she was rude, bossy, self-righteous, and intrusive. But I can empathize with her feelings.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 6:18 pm   rating: 320  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.9   elizabeththewellread

      OK, but what about the honey issue? Honey is actually considered a “good karma” food and isn’t supposed to be verboten to even the strictest vegans. I think the writer may be off the deep end.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 6:34 pm   rating: 96  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.10   Anna

      Honey is bad to vegans because they believe the bees are being exploited.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 7:05 pm   rating: 62  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.11   Silence

      But, um, can’t the bees just fly away?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:49 pm   rating: 241  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.12   ButMadNNW

      I had a vegan friend a few years ago who – I kid you not – had it stuck in her head that the bees were somehow trapped in their hives, forced to create honey on Man’s demand.

      My dad used to keep bees. I had to explain to her exactly how honey is made and that her idea of the situation would make honey production IMPOSSIBLE; that the bees have to fly out to the flowers and gather pollen.

      This is the same friend whose doctor insisted she had to become a vegetarian again (at least temporarily), because she’d jumped into being vegan without doing proper research into how to do it healthily and was malnourished!

      *headdesk*

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:56 pm   rating: 154  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.13   Molly

      What about the poor exploited carrots? Yanked out of the soil in the prime of their life.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 8:11 am   rating: 529  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.14   Li

      Not to mention that a ridiculous percentage of the world’s staple crops rely on bee pollination. And not just the natural kind. People actually drive around with bee hives to help farmers pollinate these crops. Are the vegans avoiding these products of vicious bee-exploitation?

      Jul 8, 2011 at 6:02 pm   rating: 208  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.15   Megan

      I was vegan for about a year (plain ole vegetarian now) and can tell you that the honey thing is because bees (supossedly) die during the honey extraction process—when the honey farmer pulls the filled honeycombs out of the box, bees get smashed up.

      Having never really witnessed the honey extraction, I’m not really sure whether a couple smooshed bees or a smashing of most of the colony. But even when I was vegan I had a bit of a problem with the logic, as I know a bee farmer, and while I can’t really find what he does to be anywhere near the level of slaughterhouses in way of unnecessary pain and cruelty.

      So it’s not so much a bee exploitation thing as it is an attempt to fulfill the ideology of veganism, to not eat or use products that are made by harming animals.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 6:57 pm   rating: 40  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.16   Lachwen

      “an attempt to fulfill the ideology of veganism, to not eat or use products that are made by harming animals.”

      Vegans ARE aware that countless rodents, insects, snakes and lizards die in the process of vegetable and grain harvesting, right?

      Jul 10, 2011 at 10:13 pm   rating: 404  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.17   dixiechick

      Although I think LW is wacko for putting honey on the list, if she’s going to go that far, here’s something she missed:

      By complete coincidence, I read an article earlier today by someone who decided to try being vegan for just a month. I vaguely thought, That might be interesting.

      Then I read that not only are you technically not supposed to eat honey… YOU SHOULDN’T DRINK WINE. That stopped me in my tracks.

      The reasoning also gave me pause, however: Apparently most winemakers use egg whites and fish bladders to remove sediment from wine. The author did not explain exactly how they do this… but, ewww! (Not going to stop me from having a glass or two, however.) (Maybe I’ll invite the roomie over to get drunk with me–I know *I’d* need it after discovering that space aliens had kidnapped my formerly sane roommate!)

      Jul 10, 2011 at 10:48 pm   rating: 27  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.18   lagne

      I don’t know if the two processes are at all similar, but egg whites are used to remove sediment from stock when making consomme (completely clear broth). They’re added to stock with other ingredients and act as a filter during simmering, then they’re discarded. Egg whites are good lil’ filters.

      The fish bladder thing, though.. I got nothin.’

      Jul 11, 2011 at 3:00 am   rating: 24  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.19   Cin

      I also wonder about milk. Cows make more than what they truly need, from what I understand and I grew up on a beef not dairy farm. I have been to dairy farms however. I feel it’s like when a person pumps for milk for their child. The more you use the bigger your supply. I’ve also felt how the suction feels and they don’t hurt. No I didn’t put it on my boob but I have used a breast pump for my own child! lol. Also, I highly doubt that the cows would keep coming to the machines so readily if it harmed them. I’ve never seen anyone have to force them to the troughs. I do hate that cattle, after they are sold at the market from my family farm, may have a drastically different and unpleasant life than the large field they grew up in. I still eat meat though. However, while I love my pets I don’t value their lives the same as a human being. I don’t mourn their deaths like I do a beloved relative. I’m sad sure, but not the kind of mourning I see some people have.

      Jul 13, 2011 at 11:59 am   rating: 60  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #3   Melba Toast

    Wow… sounds like someone needs to SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM!!!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:10 pm   rating: 394  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   Robert

      RIP Macho Man.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 11:05 pm   rating: 57  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #4   k8thagr8

    ugly ass carnivore!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:10 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   TickleMyBambo

      CARNIVORES! KEEP BEING AWESOME!

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:08 pm   rating: 250  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.2   lagne

      The only “ugly” I see is that nasty-ass vegan handwriting. Thank God not a single one of the vegans I know is like this.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:14 pm   rating: 108  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.3   TickleMyBambo

      I’m a vegan and I would never impose my beliefs and personal choice of diet onto anyone who clearly isn’t interested. Vegan roommate should have never moved in with someone who has a diet that conflicted with hers. Vegan roommate needs to realize that not everybody understands nor follows the vegan lifestyle and to demand special treatment or for people to conform to a lifestyle choice she made only for herself is outlandish and inconsiderate. She needs to either tolerate her roommates personal choice or get the fuck out.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:27 am   rating: 644  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.4   Wow

      Thanks TMB. This note writer seems to confuse being a Vegan to someone who wears their panties 3 times too small.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:57 am   rating: 126  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #5   Sarah W

    Wow. Just wow.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:11 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

     
  • #6   shwo! bang

    To: Vegan Roommate
    Re: Your latest letter

    tl;dr

    PS: I plan to fry up some bacon in the morning.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:11 pm   rating: 446  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   TickleMyBambo

      Dear Vegan Roommate,

      Let me keep this short and simple for you. If you find my diet to be offensive to you, than I suggest you find another Vegan to live with who understands and supports your beliefs because I sure as hell don’t. Now if you excuse me I have a whole bunch of chicken and beef to cook for your moving out BBQ party.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:06 pm   rating: 312  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.2   shadowz

      Dear roommate,

      If you no longer wish to see animal products in your living space, you know where the door is. I plan on having an indoor BBQ party with ribs this weekend. I hope your intolerance drives you out of the apartment by tomorrow.

      XOXO

      Jul 6, 2011 at 10:17 pm   rating: 68  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.3   Clumber

      I say go for the whole pig roast and insist repeatedly on calling the meat “Wilbur”. “Would you like some of Wilbur’s ribs? Perhaps a pulled-Wilbur sloppy joe? Some pig, that Wilbur!”

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:07 am   rating: 217  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.4   Divvitar

      After I handcuff you to the bed and make you watch as I slaughter the hog before frying the bacon. Who wants chops?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 3:49 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.5   Byatch

      A few weeks ago I cooked a rabbit and looked up a website with tips on how to cut it up. The author repeatedly insisted on referring to the rabbit as “Mr Bunny”, so you’d read something like “grab Mr Bunny by the middle, slice and break off the back legs”…

      Off putting but I have to say, that Mr Bunny was f*cking delicious.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 2:28 am   rating: 136  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.6   CardiAud

      Clumber, my family actually names the steers we purchase at auction. Then, after they’re slaughtered and served up, we can let house guests know EXACTLY WHO they are eating. Great fun. And if it puts them off their appetite, well, more steak for me!

      Jul 8, 2011 at 1:32 pm   rating: 46  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.7   stellans

      We grew up knowing animals on the farm were pretty much always destined for a freezer: either ours, or whoever purchased them. We kids named them anyway, and later when served, were quite complimentary about how good Bumpy or Billy or Lucy tasted. We raised sheep, cattle, and chickens. We had no delusions about where our meals came from, and were properly grateful.

      Ms. Vegan needs to get a grip. And? Equating child abuse with meat consumption was appallingly over the top. Shame on her.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 12:38 pm   rating: 113  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.8   Divvitar

      @ CardiAud: Reminds me of those ridiculous shark ads for PB Snickers. STEVE was DELICIOUS! :P

      Jul 10, 2011 at 11:45 pm   rating: 55  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.9   Clumber

      We had a full on roast pig at an employee recognition party (mandatory or I would have been anywhere else) and I made up an employee badge to hang from its neck on the spit thing… but when I got there (of course i arrived late, i left early too!!) someone had put a paper sack over the pig’s head because people were upset looking at the face of what they were eating. Less honest, imho. Acknowledge the critter at least.

      Jul 11, 2011 at 11:27 am   rating: 53  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #7   Lou

    High horse? Wow, she is militant! Makes me want to go and put some eggs in her bed.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:11 pm   rating: 62  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   Jimmy James

      Vegan roommate should get off of that high horse- I mean, did she even ask the horse if it would mind bearing her weight? Maybe the high horse doesn’t *want* her on its back.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:33 am   rating: 208  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.2   derp thought

      Clearly, she wants her horses to run free, which would make them – like her – unstable(d). :D

      Jul 8, 2011 at 1:35 pm   rating: 135  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #8   Seek

    Guy must be packing a lot of meat.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:11 pm   rating: 50  small thumbs up

    • #8.1   TickleMyBambo

      Seems to me that Vegan Roommate is long overdue for a hot beef injection.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:30 am   rating: 87  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #9   Rob

    This is also a reason why people hate Brooklynites.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:11 pm   rating: 50  small thumbs up

     
  • #10   ace713

    WTF, sounds like a lunatic, how is eating meat anywhere as bad as beating a child.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:12 pm   rating: 117  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   Jelly Bean

      You eat meat…so therefore child abuse must be acceptable to you? I think not…

      Ms. Vegan must not be getting enough protein in her diet, and it has flawed her logic.

      I think if I lived there I’d protest eating vegatables.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:15 pm   rating: 114  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.2   bean

      Not just meat -honey even!

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:24 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.3   Margaret

      I thought you wrote “how is eating meat anywhere as bad as EATING a child.”

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:28 pm   rating: 120  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.4   VerityBrown bang

      “And you who feed on nothing but plants,
      don’t hold your pride so high.
      For plants are living and just might feel,
      and they take so long to die.”
      – Leslie Fish, “Fisher Shark”

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:40 pm   rating: 212  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.5   CdnGinger

      I love how she implies that the omnivore is unattractive — “You will feel better and even look better”.

      I think sums up the omnivore’s argument perfectly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmK0bZl4ILM

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:45 pm   rating: 27  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.6   Nunavut Guy

      I know that beating children is bad……….but how about your meat?

      I just had to…..sorry.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 7:46 pm   rating: 63  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.7   TickleMyBambo

      Oh Nunavut… You silly sausage you!

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:43 am   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #11   heavy d

    I especially enjoyed the closing. Not only is she now a meat-eating child abuse espouser, but frankly she could look better.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:12 pm   rating: 156  small thumbs up

     
  • #12   Erin

    Why doesn’t the intolerant vegan go find herself a new living space? What a fucking retard.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:12 pm   rating: 67  small thumbs up

     
  • #13   tishi

    I had an annoying co-worker who would do this… i took odd joy at eating ribs or the giant turkey leg in front of her when ever the cafeteria served it…

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:13 pm   rating: 79  small thumbs up

    • #13.1   Stirring the Pot

      I sooooooooo did something similar when I was in college, tishi. I had 2 vegans living in the apartment across from me & when I’d be in the midst of cooking a YUMMMMMY steak, I’d prop open the door. And if they came out due to the nummy smell, I’d very neighborly invite them over. >)

      Jul 9, 2011 at 2:12 am   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.2   Megan

      If she or he had been practicing for any length of time you probably just grossed them out.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 7:11 pm   rating: 25  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #14   AMoparGirl

    Eff YOU LADY! Unless she owns the house & even then I don’t think she has a gripe. Would LOVE to see her try to evict him cause he eats REAL food. I’d be cooking up a storm of rare meats just for her to smell. Then get a pet snake so you can feet it mice.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:13 pm   rating: 71  small thumbs up

     
  • #15   Ann D

    I think it’s time to get a new roommate.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:13 pm   rating: 25  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   Rat Liz

      so true, i would hate to be molested by my roommates milk like she is. i hope she isn’t traumatized

      Jul 7, 2011 at 7:27 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #16   elocin277

    I’d have a pig roast in the living room the next day, with whole fishes as garnishes, a side of beef as an appetizer and whole roast chickens for dessert. How’d ya like me now, BITCH? lol

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:14 pm   rating: 47  small thumbs up

    • #16.1   Jo's comment

      or a chicken inside a turkey inside a lamb inside a goat

      Jul 7, 2011 at 5:53 am   rating: 41  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.2   Clumber

      …inside a calf! WHOOOOOO! And wrap that whole sucker in bacon, thick cut.

      crud.. now I’m hungry.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:10 am   rating: 27  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.3   Pensacola Ass Block

      Then put THAT inside a Boeing 747.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 2:50 pm   rating: 25  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.4   pony girl

      and fly it on over to Austin. We can grill it up at my place!

      Jul 11, 2011 at 3:22 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.5   Chris

      I think you mean a calgoalaturken.

      Jul 19, 2011 at 12:59 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #17   lagne

    Holy mother of BEEF. My blood pressure just went through the roof.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:14 pm   rating: 31  small thumbs up

     
  • #18   JJ

    If she has a problem with these animal products, I hope she is forking over the cash for the roommate to move out. Since this was not something agreed upon at the time they moved in together, she cannot be forced to move without proper notice. I guarantee you these ladies live in Park Slope.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:15 pm   rating: 80  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   nicole

      my guess is williamsburg.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:03 pm   rating: 29  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #19   MeatEater

    I would buy half a pig and stuff it in the fridge!
    Where exactly does this chick get off?

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:15 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #19.1   Nunavut Guy

      Probably on a celery stalk.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 7:55 pm   rating: 158  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.2   Celeste

      I would buy a couple of chickens and hide them in her room. Possibly in the heating/cooling vents. Bwahahahaha

      Jul 6, 2011 at 9:50 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.3   bored@work

      @ Nunavut

      Or perhaps a cucumber….

      Jul 7, 2011 at 1:57 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.4   pony girl

      @ Nunavut,

      I will never look at a celery stalk the same again!

      I already have to stifle a giggle when I’m picking out cucumbers, thanks to my ex always calling the ones I buy home-wreckers.

      ;)

      Jul 9, 2011 at 6:58 pm   rating: 31  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #20   Mamie

    TL;DR

    That self-righteous dumbfuck is probably suffering from a severe shortage of B-12, thus the tantrum.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:15 pm   rating: 80  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   Yeah

      So I was reading about Jains and how they have been super-vegan for thousands of years, and I thought “Well where did they get B12 then? Isn’t it necessary for survival? Maybe they know some secret that modern vegans don’t?” Turns out they get it from bugs, insect eggs, poop residue, and other contaminants on the plants they eat.

      Just thought that was interesting.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:49 pm   rating: 87  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.2   Sarah

      Insects are animals. That’s totally cheating.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 7:53 pm   rating: 95  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.3   NotoriousDBA

      There’s also B12 in fermented foods like sauerkraut and pickles. Pickles (like pickled green mango) are big in India.

      Jul 11, 2011 at 11:35 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.4   Kitty

      Yes, but dementia from B12 deficiency is still a HUGE problem among older vegans/vegetarians here in the US.
      I say you go full “balls to the wall” to drive her out. Put a dead bolt on YOUR door (in case she tries to throw your stuff out) and start bringing home fresh meat to BBQ, ordering “meat lovers pizza”, throwing “bring wine and some swine” pork and vino potlucks with tonnes of friends, and hey, ICE CREAM SOCIALS!! Spike her guns even further, and make each event a fund raiser for your local animal shelter too! Oh, and start using “Burt’s Bees” products around her whenever possible, burning beeswax candles, and let her know you’ve been using their brand of soap to wash the throw pillows in the living room. Have some FUN with this!! The more you socialize and enjoy driving her up a sanctimonious tree, the less power she has and the faster she’ll move the hell out.

      Jul 14, 2011 at 8:40 pm   rating: 43  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.5   oi

      arhm! Jains do drink milk, they don’t eat eggs but they take dairy. They don’t eat any meat, eggs and vegetables that grow under the ground.
      That’s all. No secret. It’s dairy.

      Jul 14, 2011 at 9:34 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #21   dani

    I wonder what her response to the note was!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:16 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

    • #21.1   AliceWithWings

      I know! I want the rest of the story!

      Jul 9, 2011 at 2:32 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #22   Jammin

    Hate the haters!

    I can invent all kinds of passive-aggressive responses for this roomie: 1. print some fake labels, and fill the fridge with vacuum-sealed babies, kittens & puppies (stuffed ones, of course).

    2. find some video filmed inside a slaughterhouse to view on the community TV.

    3. leave a copy of the essay “A Modest Proposal” by Swift on the kitchen table.

    4. Take up tanning leather and animal hides, or taxidermy – in the kitchen.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:16 pm   rating: 68  small thumbs up

    • #22.1   aliceblue

      5. Next time she goes out, leave a honey dipped Slim Jim on her bedside table.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:56 pm   rating: 30  small thumbs up

       
    • #22.2   MagiSupi

      6. Watch Epic Meal Time whenever she’s in the room.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:35 pm   rating: 37  small thumbs up

       
    • #22.3   NerfWarrior

      Write her an equally high-handed note informing her that you have become a fundamental born-again Christian and as such you will be expecting her to cease all sexual activity in the apartment, up to and including watching PG-13 movies and owning fashion mags.
      Halfway through the note, imply that you would have been okay with her keeping her disgusting sexual immorality in the bedroom, but then remind her that you just forbade it from the entire apartment so that’s the law now, too bad.
      Finish it up by adding that it’ll make her look less whorish anyway.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 9:57 am   rating: 347  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #23   Bex

    No problem with the vegan thing but they clearly cannot be roommates any more. Why even write a note? One of them should just move out.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:16 pm   rating: 43  small thumbs up

    • #23.1   The Elf

      That would be both reasonable. Clearly, there’s no place for reason here.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 7:15 am   rating: 34  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #24   Darrow

    I really want to see the backlash to this note. Why do they think they can dictate your diet? Is it her house?

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:17 pm   rating: 61  small thumbs up

    • #24.1   looney

      In addition to the outcome of this situation, I’d also love to know if the note-writer saw her lovely missive on PAN, and then read all of the comments on what a piece of work she is, how many people want to slap her, etc.

      I’d also love to hear whether that made a dent in her zeal, or if it just further convinced her of her superiority to the omnivorous “rabble” that we all are….

      Jul 7, 2011 at 6:18 pm   rating: 27  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.2   CardiAud

      Having known quite a few zealots in my time (I used to be a very conservative Christian before I got education), I can almost 100% guarantee it is only feeding her martyrdom complex.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 1:45 pm   rating: 46  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #25   Tara

    This poor person has to move. You can’t make a lifestyle change and then expect your roommates to conform.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:18 pm   rating: 68  small thumbs up

     
  • #26   Shannon

    I would laugh my ass off then cook and eat as much meat as I could in one setting. I’d let the roommate know that her bs smugness is why people hate vegetarians. I may also try to sneak animal products in her food, just for the fun of it.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:18 pm   rating: 40  small thumbs up

    • #26.1   Sneeze

      That would be any of the food from Epic Mealtime. I bet vegan roommate would shit her pants if she ever saw an episode.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 8:01 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #26.2   Scuba Girl

      I am an unrepentant carnivore. That being said, I have no problems with vegetarians. Vegans, OTOH, are tiresome and annoying. They insist everyone around them be like them.

      They are, however, fucking delicious.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:19 am   rating: 80  small thumbs up

       
    • #26.3   The Elf

      In all fairness, vegans are like anyone else with a restricted diet. Some of them want to tell you ALL about What You Are Doing Wrong and What They Can’t Eat and How You Should Accomodate Them, and some just eat their carrots and quinoa and go on with their life.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 7:17 am   rating: 105  small thumbs up

       
    • #26.4   witchiepoo

      I love vegans – but I couldn’t eat a whole one…

      Jul 7, 2011 at 7:04 pm   rating: 67  small thumbs up

       
    • #26.5   Tiferet

      @The Elf ~ I have celiac disease, and the problem with a lot of restricted diets is that if you have to share a kitchen with people who eat whatever it is you’re allergic to, you can become really sick from cross contamination. If someone’s using a lot of wheat flour so that it makes a big cloud in the air, I have to stay away. If someone takes a knife, sticks it in the mayo, spreads the mayo on their bread, and sticks the knife back into the mayo, the tiny crumbs of bread that just got into the mayo mean I can never eat that mayo again unless I want a day-long migraine, gastrointestinal issues for several days and mood swings. I can’t share mayo, peanut butter or anything like that with people who eat breads made from wheat, and if they “forget” which jar is theirs I’m fucked, particularly if they don’t tell me and I don’t SEE any crumbs. So I don’t really care if other people eat gluten, but I can’t live with people who do because they’ll poison me. “You can just scrape it off! Just don’t eat those bits!” and so on, and I only WISH that were true.

      That said, I have no sympathy whatsoever for Vegan Roommate, because she’s being a jerk and all that, and nobody’s making her eat meat or drink milk. I just don’t ever want to live with gluten eaters again because I cannot trust them not to poison me.

      Jul 12, 2011 at 12:54 pm   rating: 44  small thumbs up

       
    • #26.6   The Elf

      My statement above was a generality. For you, since your disease is so severe, it’s more like the difference between going on and on and on and on about your restricted diet vs. establishing rules about cross-contamination right from the very beginning and only bringing it up when the rules are broken.

      As you say, it’s probably a lot easier just to not live with gluten eaters. If only vegan roommate considered that option!

      Jul 12, 2011 at 1:35 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

       
    • #26.7   Rox

      Celiac disease isn’t a choice though, so you’re justified in not wanting to share a kitchen with others who don’t suffer with the condition. She CHOSE to be a vegan, not out of necessity, but likely trying to impress someone. And she also chose to live with a meat eater, so she has no right to throw around ultimatums.

      Jul 18, 2011 at 4:15 am   rating: 42  small thumbs up

       
    • #26.8   PinkCigarette

      FYI: A recent study concluded that consumption of less than 10 mg of gluten per day is unlikely to cause histological abnormalities (fancy way of saying allergic reaction) which would cause the “day-long migraine, gastrointestinal issues for several days and mood swings” Tiferet says will happen to her if she eats a few crumbs of wheat bread – taking it a little far aren’t we Tiferet?

      Jul 27, 2011 at 8:40 pm   rating: 29  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #27   Amber

    #4 especially sounded eerily like one of those pamphlets the religious proselytizers hand out. “I know you will continue to be a filthy Satan-worshipper outside of our gracious home, but I beg of you to save your soul and take the path of God!”

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:18 pm   rating: 54  small thumbs up

     
  • #28   Trish

    I would love to know what the submitter said to their roomie after this.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:19 pm   rating: 42  small thumbs up

     
  • #29   Bob

    I guess I’ll never understand vegans. No milk? The cows NEED you to milk them! Otherwise they get all grumpy and in pain, right? If I had to live with this person I would be nice enough to compromise on abandoning meat, but the rest of it..honey? Come on! However, I do agree with the condemnation of Slim Jims, canned sardines, and Spam. I mean, is Spam even food? (Or Slim Jims, for that matter…)

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:19 pm   rating: 28  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   Danny

      SlimJims are mostly “mechanically separated chicken”. And salt water.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:25 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.2   lagne

      I might be mistaken, but I think cows used for the dairy industry are kept in a constant state of post-birth so they continue lactating. Normally, cows produce enough milk for their calves until the calves wean, then their milk dries up, just like humans.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:30 pm   rating: 119  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.3   Sue

      I really hope you are kidding, Bob. NEED us to milk them?

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:32 pm   rating: 44  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.4   Ratastic

      Cows don’t need you to milk them if you don’t separate them from their calves. Nursing offspring being the entire purpose of lactation, you see. And vegans object to the entirety of animal husbandry, not just eating the produce thereof. Keeping a cow is as large a sin as drinking milk.

      Also, note writer is a tool.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:36 pm   rating: 82  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.5   Holler

      Just like female humans NEED to be milked, right?

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:53 pm   rating: 55  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.6   drewbie

      cows only need to be milked by humans when they are forced to get pregnant and then have their offspring torn away from them.

      If they don’t get pregnant, they won’t produce milk. If they do get pregnant, and still have the offspring, then, lo and behold, the offspring drinks the milk

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:01 pm   rating: 36  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.7   Erin

      Well. They only need you to milk them because their calves aren’t drinking it. They don’t just magically have milk without having been pregnant. :P

      Just sayin’.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:13 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.8   Erin

      And honey is something bees eat … so by taking it from them, you’re thievin’ from bees!

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:18 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.9   Tanaquil

      Modern dairy animals have been selectively bred over thousands of years to produce extra milk. The amount they produce is influenced by how much is taken, so you may be able to reduce the amount they give, but it will still most likely be more than a single calf can consume. Cows aren’t “kept in a constant state of post-birth”… they’re bred every year, and they dry up after about 10 months.

      Vegans believe that domesticated animals shouldn’t exist in the first place, so arguing that domestic cows “need” us to milk them is beside the point.

      And yes, some female humans do NEED to be milked. Some individuals may experience continual discomfort and even mastitis if they stop when their babies have had enough. Also, just like other mammals, most women will give more if they nurse more. Hence wet nurses, milk banks, etc.

      Letter writer is a smug douche, of course.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:19 pm   rating: 126  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.10   erinmkc

      Sardines are really good for you. They are full of omega-3 oil which is good for your heart and brain.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:40 pm   rating: 25  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.11   Risha

      Not all vegans eschew honey, by the way. There’s an argument that says that as long as the bees are just living their lives doing their thing, and are not harmed by the harvesting process, it doesn’t count as domesticating animals for food .

      Jul 6, 2011 at 7:53 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.12   quat

      None of you who think humans don’t need to be milked has ever breastfed, obviously!!! LOL! OH, HELL YES WE DO.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 8:14 pm   rating: 52  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.13   Meg

      Bees would die if their combs weren’t cleaned out…cows, goats, sheep would die with out being milked/sheared, chickens lay eggs that aren’t always fertilized, etc. I can see you not wanting to eat meat, but milk, cheese, eggs, wool, really? I find that crazy. Not using those things is more harmful to the animals.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 7:20 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.14   *snerk*

      As for the animal husbandry thing: My husband once worked with a young woman who was a vegetarian. After a while, she realized it wasn’t the “killing for food” thing she objected to, but the conditions of factory farms, and the like. So now she eats meat, but only from animals that died “happy,” mostly game killed by the hunters in her family.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:36 am   rating: 69  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.15   orange dog

      If the meat *product* list is accurate, then perhaps omnivore roommate has engaged in a little passive aggressive shopping….

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:42 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.16   Anonymous

      Cows only HAVE to be milked when we’ve taken their calves away from them. Otherwise the calves would drink the milk until they’re weaned, and then the cows wouldn’t produce any more milk… until the next calf.

      Just FYI (for I am also a carnivore)

      Jul 8, 2011 at 1:13 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.17   tarab

      Not exactly, orange dog, maybe her time is valuable and she likes to buy a lot of food at once so that she doesn’t have to go shopping again so soon.

      We have these things called freezers, they freeze your meat so you can keep them for a long time.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 12:21 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.18   Turkey Vulture

      To Erin: Actually, honey is bee puke. True story. It’s bee puke.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 4:40 pm   rating: 23  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.19   Natalie

      It’s bee puke that the bees eat!

      Jul 9, 2011 at 7:28 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.20   Megan

      Isn’t it bee puke that bee babies eat?

      Jul 10, 2011 at 7:18 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.21   GirlyTomboy

      OK – just to get it straight.
      Bees feed on nectar; they essentially vomit honey (being that mouth/anus are one in the same). “Baby bees”, aka. larvae, are fed a diet of royal jelly, not honey.

      Jul 11, 2011 at 11:32 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.22   R

      You would “abandon” your own diet to satisfy a holier-than-thou, snobby, pampered “princess? Way to burn one flag just to raise another.

      Jul 18, 2011 at 4:24 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #30   Kaitlyn

    I would write her a nice reply letting her know she had to move out immediately as I no longer wished to compromise her “morals”.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:20 pm   rating: 71  small thumbs up

    • #30.1   Emaline

      In animal blood. Write the note in animal blood.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:53 pm   rating: 452  small thumbs up

       
    • #30.2   Clumber

      Error : Already voted… BUT I WANT TO THUMB Emaline 1000 times!

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:15 am   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
    • #30.3   TKD

      On vellum. Write the note in animal blood on vellum!

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:37 am   rating: 51  small thumbs up

       
    • #30.4   emcd

      The umbicus would be a bovine tibia and the whole thing tied together with a strand of dried sheep’s instestine. Delivered by Sam the Butcher.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:50 am   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #30.5   Smokiechick

      Don’t forget to write it with a quill, plucked from a bird and seal it with melted beeswax before tying it up :)

      Jul 13, 2011 at 10:03 am   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #31   shat

    So did you beat her with a leg of lamb or what? I really need to hear the outcome of this…

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:20 pm   rating: 40  small thumbs up

    • #31.1   stellans

      yes! beat her with a leg of lamb, then roast it for dinner that night! Evidence gone!

      Jul 9, 2011 at 1:38 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #32   McFiesty

    I hope the meat eater brought home some McD’s and ate it in front of the vegan! oh yeah when did bees become animals?

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:21 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #32.1   David D

      What are bees if not animals? Fungus???

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:33 pm   rating: 80  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.2   Ash

      Oh wow. Are you kidding? Of course they’re animals! Are they a plant? No. Are they a fungus? No. Are they a protist or prokaryote? No and no.
      They are an animal, and guess who else is…you! The human animal.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:37 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.3   RJ

      Maybe you are confusing animals and mammals. I’m not against veganism but the no-honey thing always struck me as “too far.” I mean, they’re bugs….we step on bugs. Are vegans allowed to step on bugs? I guess they just don’t want bugs to be factory-farmed.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:02 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.4   lagne

      The honey industry is pretty widespread, though, and if you consider how many bees are potentially killed in order to harvest honey, it becomes a valid concern for vegans.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:06 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.5   pony girl

      actually, even when bees aren’t harmed in any way, fundamentalist vegans are opposed to honey because the animals made it for themselves, not for us.
      slave bees.
      these are the same people who are against humans having kitties and doggies, because animals shouldn’t be kept as pets because, i can’t really say why, but they don’t like that either.
      slave dogs.
      something like that.

      There are a lot of fundamentalist vegans here in Austin. They are irritating, and usually, stinky.
      I have lots of friends who are vegans, but they aren’t fundamentalist whacko vegans. and they bathe.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:37 pm   rating: 86  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.6   Apiary

      The thing is, vegans wouldn’t have all their delicious veggies and grains if it weren’t for bees. Talk to almost any beekeeper who is more than a hobbyist and you’ll find their main business is pollinating crops. An excess of honey is just a side benefit.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 7:51 pm   rating: 71  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.7   Risha

      I posted this above, before I saw this honey-specific thread, but not all vegans eschew honey. There’s an argument that says that as long as the bees are just living their lives doing their thing, and are not harmed too much by the harvesting process, it doesn’t count as domesticating animals for food. At least not unreasonably so.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 8:00 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.8   Nunavut Guy

      P.G;easy on the lavesy ingthey.C.B is back from vacation.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 8:08 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.9   pony girl

      @nunavut,

      That’s what the fundamentalist whacko vegans think, not me.
      Their words.

      That’s what they equate it with.

      Like I said, they’re whacko.

      ps – CB, you were on vacation? Hope you had a blast.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 9:05 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.10   Nunavut Guy

      Sigh……

      Jul 7, 2011 at 6:28 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.11   Clumber

      PG – I have such a crush on you…
      Nunvavut – she got you, no worries! She was using the same tactic as LW – eating meat : abusing children | domesticated animals : slavery

      I love running over.. err.. I mean into the PETA/ALF/HSUS militants who try to accuse me of holding our dogs in slavery.. watch their lives just one day and tell me who is the slave to whom?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:20 am   rating: 34  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.12   Lynda

      Since when does McD’s serve meat?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:22 am   rating: 68  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.13   Citrico

      So a dog or cat makes one feed them, water them, clean up their crap, play with them and pay attention to them, and they’re in slavery? If I attempt to work from home my cat tends to leap on the desk and basically demand I pay attention to her.

      Pretty sure dogs and cats aren’t the slaves here.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:09 pm   rating: 56  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.14   pony girl

      @Clumber,
      *blush*

      True. My pets eat better than I do, have more expensive grooming products and get to visit their doctors regularly.
      I walk around with bags of their poo, clearly, I am not in charge.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 3:56 pm   rating: 40  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.15   Byatch

      You know what, vegans? Bees, like ants, basically already live in a state of total, natural slavery *to the hive*. We’re not imposing anything on them that they don’t already do completely naturally.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 2:49 am   rating: 24  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.16   McFiesty

      Bees aren’t animals, they’re flying insects…sheesh. I’d also like to point out that vegans are polluting the earth, since they cannot/will not consume animals or wear leather goods and all the crazy ways to use anything that doesn’t decompose, they use all man made materials! Made in other countries, so they’re unpatriotic as well…. Vegans shouldn’t use electricity or running water either. I bet those lousy vegan drive cars…that use gas…that came from decomposed dinosaurs… ;-)

      Jul 8, 2011 at 8:47 am   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.17   The Elf

      Flying insects *are* animals.

      There are days when I weep for the future of humanity.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 9:39 am   rating: 53  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.18   McFiesty

      Oh please don’t weep for humanity! Great bees are animals. Flying insect animals. If you need to weep, please weep for the awful educational system that exist in the entire country! Or the many other tradgedies that are out ther. There are only a handful of institutions that actually educate. I was just being facetious, as many are on this site! I was attemping some inappropriate humor about a controlling, under nourished vegan that has gone off their rocker giving so many other vegans a bad name.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 10:14 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.19   Li

      As an entomologist, I have to thank the Elf for reading my mind. Kingdom Animalia is not quite so narrow as some people tend to assume. XD

      Jul 8, 2011 at 6:10 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.20   jay

      Once I met a biology major who insisted to me that fish weren’t animals. I was too dumbstruck to argue. They’re sure as fuck not plants or minerals!!

      Jul 9, 2011 at 1:31 am   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.21   bookworm

      McFeisty, why stick with the lowest quality slop you can get when you can spend the day slow cooking a nice top round roast. At least get some meat that still looks like it was meat at some point.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 1:42 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #32.22   McFiesty

      I wasn’t even talking about cooking…I was kidding about bees not being animals! (i know they are) Good grief, where are all the people with senses of humor on this site gone to? I’m not veggi/vegan! I like this site for it’s atrocious humor and willfully ignorant written notes! I don’t think the animal kingdom is narrow either…

      Jul 18, 2011 at 4:10 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #33   Kathy

    Jeebus. This is beyond PA and grounds for a super big pummeling with a chicken leg.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:21 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

    • #33.1   Divvitar

      Maybe an entire chicken, but a cow’s fibula would work better.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 3:59 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #34   CJ

    Wow. Just, wow. The only way this is semi-allowable is if the roommate owns the place and is renting to her. Either way, I’d suggest finding herself another living situation.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:21 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

    • #34.1   Languagegeek

      Not even then.

      YOUR diet decision is YOURS and affects YOU, not me. I’ll make my own choices, thanks.

      Do what you want, but leave me out of it, ya self-righteous pain in the ass. And pass me my burger.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:43 am   rating: 31  small thumbs up

       
    • #34.2   Who passed out the Haterade?

      The only way this is semi-allowable…

      Only in a perfect reality where moving doesn’t cost quite a bit of money and time. Not to mention that since this is NYC, tack on a “broker’s fee” of two or three months from the agency that got you the place. (Yes, really. I lived in Queens for a few years, and those guys have a marvelous racket going. It’s close to impossible to find a place without an agency.)

      The sad thing, though? All of that money and time thrown down the drain will almost certainly be worth it. The task of trying to make a self-appointed martyr back down (or not make your life hell) is borderline Sisyphean, and well worth paying a few thousand dollars to avoid.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 9:49 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #35   illuminaut

    equating eating meat with child abuse? nice touch

    I also enjoyed the last part: just in case you want to become a total nutcase like me, it’s not too late to hop on the militant vegan train.

    I’ve seen this transformation before; it must be something they teach in those vegan self-help courses.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:22 pm   rating: 33  small thumbs up

    • #35.1   Brian

      All that twisting and patting of themselves on the back probably causes a loss of oxygen to the brain.

      Really though, take cows as an example. What do they think would happen to every cow in the world if everyone suddenly woke up a vegan?

      Do they think farmers would just keep feeding them out of the goodness of their hearts? Do they picture big buffalo like herds of free range cattle roaming the prairies?

      Actually they probably do. hehe

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:10 pm   rating: 38  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.2   Clumber

      and all the happy animals living in concert with one-another, perhaps singing folk songs around a spirit circle.

      Live and let live, or become the object of my mocking. I don’t give a flying freed frog fuck what you eat, until the moment you judge me for what I eat. Then you are open season for me to wrap your asinine hypocritical and untenable beliefs around your neck until you turn a shade of purple. Peace out!

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:24 am   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.3   Languagegeek

      Did anyone see Scott Pilgrim vs. the World?

      Vegan Academy. Being vegan gives you special powers. Until the Vegan Police revoke your powers for violations of the Vegan Code.

      “Gelato isn’t vegan?”
      “It’s milk and eggs, bitch.”

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:45 am   rating: 41  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.4   NerfWarrior

      Short answer: Being vegan just makes you better than most people.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 10:14 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #36   Danny

    I don’t see any consequences listed. The roommate won’t be killed, since killing animals is wrong – so who cares what the fanatic wants? :)

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:22 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

     
  • #37   Emily

    what the hell? who does this lady think she is?! as someone already said, unless she owns this apartment, she has no right to tell anyone what they’re allowed to eat in their own home. Or banish them to eat in their bedroom. What a psycho. I say move out as soon as you can and warn everyone you know to STAY AWAY!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:22 pm   rating: 20  small thumbs up

     
  • #38   Erica

    This is why we omnivores HATE self-righteous vegans and veggies. Its FINE that you make that choice, but unless you’re PAYING THE FULL RENT then you can’t dictate what your roommate can and can’t do. I hope this person kicked the veganite out of their apartment or stopped paying rent. If you don’t like what someone does, then instead of trying to dictate their life, go live ALONE!!! ughughugh, i hate roomie situations. Never again!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:23 pm   rating: 46  small thumbs up

    • #38.1   Yeah

      I’m a wannabe vegetarian, but I hate this self-righteous bullshit, too. If I decide to become a real vegetarian I’ll be doing it for personal reasons, not to shove down other people’s throats.

      Eating plants kills animals, too.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:52 pm   rating: 38  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.2   Lynda

      Even if you are paying the full rent, you still can’t dictate what your roomies eat…that only works when they are your kids

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:25 am   rating: 27  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.3   kaledrina

      yeah, rent aside you could only dictate what food came into the house if you bought all the groceries and even then, if the roomies wanted to buy meat on their own dime, there’s no stopping them.
      you can only, in any circumstance, dictate how you run YOUR life. you cannot force others to run theirs in a certain way. If roommates who bring meat into the house are a problem for you, YOU get to move. you do not get to force others to move. ESPECIALLY since the note writer says “you’re well aware I’ve been getting more and more serious about my veganism” so it’s a new moral stand they decided to take not a preexisting one. your roommates cannot be expected to conform to your cause-of-the-week.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 1:06 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.4   bookworm

      There are NO POSSIBLE CONDITIONS in which I would allow someone else to dictate my diet. Well, prison, but besides that.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 1:44 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.5   Seanette

      No joke, bookworm! I have diabetic family members, but that doesn’t change what I eat. I just make sure they have stuff they can eat.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 12:29 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #39   oi

    Whoa vegan Nazi! Is it in Berkeley?
    ok read the back story. WOW ! Brooklyn beat Berkeley!
    I am a lacto- vegetarian and I would not go anywhere near to this person let alone living with her. Probably would start eating meat, just out of spite.
    Do they ever consider this? Their naziness about it might make people do exact opposite.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:23 pm   rating: 38  small thumbs up

    • #39.1   VerityBrown bang

      Sadly, the vast majority of vegans/vegetarians that I’ve met act this way. It’s refreshing to occasionally hear from one who doesn’t.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:46 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.2   Yeah

      “For every animal you don’t eat, I’m going to eat three.” :D

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:53 pm   rating: 65  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.3   rowan1980

      IAWTC. I’m a lacto-ovo vegetarian who often prefers vegan cuisine. It’s, unfortunately, the loud, self-righteous vegans who give everyone else a bad name. (For the record, I do buy my wife bacon. Let’s face it–many would argue that it’s the candy of meats. **grins**)

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:36 pm   rating: 41  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.4   Vtownrollergirl

      Guess what? The “vast majority” of veggies/vegans aren’t ANY way. Just the vast majority of veggies/vegans/gluten free/organic/slow food/biodynamic farmers who choose to talk to other people about their diets.

      LOTS of people practice these choices and DON’T talk to anyone about it. You just don’t know about it.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:05 pm   rating: 55  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.5   Citrico

      More accurate: The vast majority of vegetarians/vegans who bring it up apropos of nothing act like this. The vast majority of vegetarians/vegans don’t actually bring it up unless they’re selecting a meal or in some other situation where it’s relevant.

      The loud and obnoxious minority ruins it for the quiet majority.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:15 pm   rating: 40  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.6   Who passed out the Haterade?

      Vtownrollergirl and Citrico: <3

      Nicely put. I'm a weird sort of non-vegetarian, refusing only to eat pork. But the only time it comes up is if food choice / restaurant is the topic. And even then, I keep it to saying that I don't eat pork unless someone asks.

      (At which point, I'll say that it's not because of religious beliefs, but just because I'd rather not. If further asked, I'll say it's because pigs are too darn close to humans in emotional range and intelligence. I'd feel the same way about eating an ape or a dolphin, their neighbors on the intelligence scale.)

      Martyrs on both sides are a huge turn-off to everyone else, and they feed into each other. The more shrill the vegemartyrs get, the more assholish the carnimartyrs get, and vice versa. Unfortunately, normal people like submitter sometimes get caught in the crossfire. It'd be nice if all the martyrs would just move to an island somewhere and starve each other to death instead.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 11:22 am   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.7   RavenMcCoy

      @Haterade:

      YES. YES. THIS.

      I come from a family of relaxed Jews who don’t keep pork in the house, because their parents didn’t because their parents didn’t. We don’t keep kosher, we just… don’t really bother with pork. Except for the occasional sausage or some ribs when we’re out.

      Except me, and no one can understand why a Jew would refuse to eat pork unless she kept kosher. Because they are ALMOST PEOPLE. A dog has the intelligence of a human toddler without the vocal capacity to prove it, and a pig is beyond that. I just can’t do it. Too close, too weird. The animals I eat need to be dumb, selfish and dirty. I prefer chickens.

      Of course I was a vegetarian for a long time and there are other animals I won’t eat (veal and lamb are too sad; lobsters are boiled alive — how horrendous) but pork is the big one. I’m SO glad I’m not the only one!

      Jul 12, 2011 at 1:47 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #39.8   Who passed out the Haterade?

      @Raven: Thank you for letting me know I’m not the only one either. (^_^)

      Cows and chickens, yeah… I’d feel worse about eating plants. After all, it’s not certain that plants have no native intelligence. ;-)

      (From what I hear from people who have raised them, cows and chickens “stubbornly defy any attempt to anthropomorphize them”… because they’re just too passive and/or dumb.)

      Jul 13, 2011 at 8:12 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #40   Fred Furz

    Thanks so much for caring!

    Bring back cannibalism – eat a vegan

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:24 pm   rating: 45  small thumbs up

    • #40.1   bobo

      I thought cannibalism was the ultimate expression of veganism.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:34 pm   rating: 25  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #41   Fatfur

    Oh wow, I would want to slap them and tell them to stfu. Whats wrong with that person. How can you be so crazy. But really what’s her meat got to do with what she chooses not to sticks in her mouth.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:24 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #42   sdedit

    The meat eater should tell the vegan she’s just converted to Orthodox Judaism, and will now take offense if the roomie uses her phone, computer, TV, cooking appliances, or light switches in the apartment on the Sabbath.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:25 pm   rating: 232  small thumbs up

    • #42.1   Ana

      or better yet become a Mennonite so that she can’t use a lot of common electronics all of the time in the apartment.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:58 pm   rating: 37  small thumbs up

       
    • #42.2   Jimmy James

      “I’m going to need you to drive me to work, since I can’t operate my car anymore because of my religious beliefs, English.”

      For added comedy, imagine that non-vegan roommate’s job is as a computer programmer, and that she is now wearing a large flase beard that she claims she grew overnight.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:46 am   rating: 38  small thumbs up

       
    • #42.3   Byatch

      Become Amish and insist that she does, too!

      Jul 8, 2011 at 2:55 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #43   Country Angel

    Unfriggin’ believable! The writer of this toxic missive should be sodomized with a Slim Jim.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:26 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

     
  • #44   Molly Mouse

    I don’t eat beef or pork, and that’s my personal choice. I could care less what the person next to me is eating, and I would never try to force someone to eat the way I do.

    On a side note, people are crazy.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:26 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

     
  • #45   Cara

    Can we PLEASE get a follow up? Did the note writer leave the apt? Did the awesome omnivore fry up lots of tasty animal? What the heck happened next?!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:26 pm   rating: 70  small thumbs up

    • #45.1   Britt

      This! I must know!

      Jul 6, 2011 at 9:11 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #45.2   AuntyBron

      I vote for Meat-eater roomie to cosh Veggi-Nazi and hide her in the compost dump.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:04 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #46   TheTGM

    I actually read that mess. Man, listen I would’ve simply told her to get the fuck over it.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:29 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #46.1   cackalacka

      I would have done so while gnawing on a lamb-chop bone for extra pinache.

      This note makes me want to eat some Lexington-style pork. Might have to fire up the smoker this weekend.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:45 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #47   Erika

    Maybe said vegan needs to find another place to live if they’re that disturbed by honey. Get a friggin’ life.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:30 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #47.1   Clumber

      May I recommend another planet? Clearly this one is not big enough for LW and her self-entitlement.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:30 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #48   beekeeper

    I’d like to slap this person too – what a pompous self-righteous arse!

    And what the hell is wrong with honey anyway? If it weren’t for beekeepers, bees would probably lack the protection they have now against pesticides/herbicides, etc

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:30 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #48.1   Mama Wrench

      Aren’t bees endangered? Isn’t it in bee keepers’ best interest to preserve the species that Mother Nature is apparently trying to kill off?

      Score: Bee Keepers 1, Vegans 0

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:29 pm   rating: 36  small thumbs up

       
    • #48.2   bored@work

      If we lose the bees, we lose the Haagen-Daaz!!!!

      Jul 7, 2011 at 3:08 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #49   tsel

    Dear Submitter,

    Kick roommate the fuck out. I’ll find a job and come live there instead. I promise to cook with bacon.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:31 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #49.1   quat

      mmmmm… bacon.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 8:20 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #50   Rita

    What utter nonsense. Some of the unhealthiest looking people I’ve met are vegans. I know twin girls in their late 20′s and both are vegans. They’re so skinny their bones stick out, their hair is thin, skin is bad, and anemic looking with dark circles around the eyes. They seem moody most of the time probably because they’re hungry and not getting enough nutrition. I think your room mate needs to find her own place and make herself a nice ham and cheese sandwich.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:32 pm   rating: 34  small thumbs up

    • #50.1   Yeah

      Vegans are more prone to heart disease than vegetarians. It’s science.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:54 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #50.2   Isa

      Sounds like anorexia. Some anorexics use vegetarianism/veganism as an excuse to refuse food, etc.

      It’s certainly possible to eat a healthy vegan diet. Plenty of omnivores are extremely unhealthy too. Personally, since I stopped eating most animal products and focused more on eating healthy foods instead of junk, I have actually gained weight (I was underweight before, so this is a good thing for me) and I’m much healthier in general. Not cause of the veganism, just because I made the conscious choice to eat a healthier and more balanced diet (which of course is possible when eating meat too, this is just what works for me).

      Point being, it’s not fair to assume that veganism is the reason for their poor health, any more than it is fair to say that eating meat is the reason someone’s overweight. It’s not that simple.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:03 pm   rating: 80  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #51   Diana

    As a vegetarian, I’m appalled at her attitude. I hate the thought of meat in my house, but I wouldn’t become a shrieking Joan Crawford bitch about it. I’m embarrassed by this; we have a hard enough time as it is….

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:32 pm   rating: 62  small thumbs up

    • #51.1   VerityBrown bang

      The reason you have a hard time is because of just how MANY vegans/vegetarians act this way. Either this fanatical personality type is particularly susceptible to the philosophical appeal of not eating meat, or else the lack of certain micro-nutrients affects their brain chemicals, causing bizarre mood changes that turn many non-meat-eaters into militant extremists with no sense of social propriety.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:59 pm   rating: 36  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.2   pearls

      As a non-insane vegetarian, can I just point out how often meat eaters are total assholes about my dietary choices? I never mention it unless I’m specifically asked, I never ask for special food allowances, and I never try to talk someone out of eating meat. And yet people constantly need lecture me on what I’m missing out on, and this is what animals are made for, and say “mmm juicy steak” multiple times during a meal. So maybe MANY of the vegetarians you’ve met act this way, but so do MANY meat eaters. Maybe MANY people in general are just dicks about food.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 2:36 am   rating: 112  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.3   Karen

      I’ve been a vegan for over twenty years. No one has ever commented on my diet or made ‘mmm meat’ remarks.

      Perhaps you are being more forceful in your views than you realize.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 5:33 am   rating: 40  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.4   The Elf

      I think it is safe to say that some people, vegetarian or omnivorous, are just dicks.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 7:24 am   rating: 69  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.5   step21

      @pearls Maybe just get new friends co-workers? ;)

      Jul 7, 2011 at 7:51 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.6   emcd

      @ Karen – “more forceful than you think”? People like to make fun of people different from themselves, sometimes just for fun and sometimes because people are just dicks. During a vegetarian tenure of 15 yrs, I had plenty of comments and meat products aimed in my direction.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:23 am   rating: 31  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.7   bozzy

      “I had plenty of … meat products aimed in my direction.”

      tee hee

      Jul 7, 2011 at 4:28 pm   rating: 41  small thumbs up

       
    • #51.8   emcd

      I went out on that pier, threw my line in and waited – thank you, bozzy, wherever you are …

      Jul 8, 2011 at 7:39 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #52   illuminaut

    to be fair, it’s probably not the note writer’s fault that she’s turned into a maniac. the diet must cause an hormonal imbalance of some sorts. get help.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:33 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

     
  • #53   jellydonut

    I had whale steak yesterday. Yeah, I ate Moby Dick and he was fucking tasty.

    Note recipient, please share this knowledge with your shrill bitch of a vegan room-mate. Also pix of facial expression. ^_^

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:33 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #53.1   Piggeldy

      On the other hand, several species of whales are endangered. Unlike pigs and cows and chickens, I suppose.

      I don’t doubt it’s tasty. Just like smoke dogfish and canned Dolphin… ahm… Tuna I mean.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 3:43 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #53.2   The Elf

      Was Moby’s dick a little salty?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 7:25 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #53.3   bored@work

      What a dork….

      Jul 7, 2011 at 3:13 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #54   Not shitty vegan

    I hate militant vegans. And I’m vegan myself.

    Where do people get off thinking they can tell other people what to do? I’ve had more productive conversations of actual interest exactly because I don’t beat people over the head with my practices.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:36 pm   rating: 65  small thumbs up

    • #54.1   Louise

      I’m a vegan and I hate these types of people. They give the rest of us a bad name. And it is true that you can have good conversations if you aren’t a bitch about your morals to everyone who eats meat: I have had many conversations that have led to people asking me about my beliefs and have made them consider veganism in a different light, and not a single one of those conversations was started by me.

      As far as not wanting meat in the house – I’m engaged to an omnivore. He doesn’t cook, so it’s easy for me to keep our house mostly vegan, but we have had cookouts where people have cooked meat. It’s not just my home, so part of our refrigerator is specifically for storing meat and I have plates and silverware that are non-vegan (I don’t agree with eating steak, but I know it’s a pain in the ass to eat it with plastic silverware on paper plates) so that I can keep my things vegan. It is completely possible to coexist with a non-vegan. If meat bothers you, it’s possible to create boundaries that make everyone happy.

      Personally, I consider my beliefs about animals to be like religion for other people, and I treat it like I expect others to treat their religion: something that is very important to me but shouldn’t be forced on other people.

      Also, this bitch needs to shut the fuck up and pull the stick out of her ass.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:08 pm   rating: 105  small thumbs up

       
    • #54.2   AuntyBron

      I dnot think Veggi-Nazi is interested in fair or everyone being happy. I think she is hell-bent on getting her way.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:09 am   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #55   Mindy

    I love how the note writer changes the rules AFTER his/her roommate has already lived there for a while and then calls the roommate inconsiderate because all of a sudden he/she is not supposed to use the fridge that they pay for to store whatever food they eat. I’d move out with no notice. Good luck with that food nazi finding another roommate.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:36 pm   rating: 41  small thumbs up

    • #55.1   Karen

      And this is why having a roommate sucks. Never again!

      Jul 14, 2011 at 12:04 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #56   Joshi

    There’s a simple way out of this, simply put: one extremist viewpoint deserves another. I suggest not allowing her to leave the house unless she’s wearing a full face mask, as per your new “beliefs”.

    I mean, “you’ve got to draw the line somewhere” right?

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:36 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

     
  • #57   jill

    Holy cow (pun totally intended)!

    I once had a roommate that told me I had to fluff and reposition the couch cushions after I got up off the couch, and that really pissed me off. If I got a letter like this, not only would I wave as much meat as possible in front of her face as I ate it, I would make a copy and show every single friend of mine so they’d know to do the same. What a whore!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:37 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #57.1   AuntyBron

      JIll! I’m shocked at you! How dare you call Veggi-Nazi a whore?! It gives hookers a bad name.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:10 am   rating: 24  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #58   Psycho

    The roommate should take up sausage making or bacon curing as a hobby.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:41 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

     
  • #59   Matt DW

    My gf’s ex is seeking a court order that she keep their 4 and 6 year-old children vegan when they are with her!

    I want to be down with veganism, but it’s a pain in the ass and it’s practitioners all seem to behave like this.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:42 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

    • #59.1   fibrowitch

      I think your gf should check with the kids doctors but I think 4 and 6 are to young to be vegan.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:44 pm   rating: 30  small thumbs up

       
    • #59.2   Risha

      I’m an omnivore myself, but my dad was a vegetarian my entire life. It always weirds me out how many people think that you have to do some sort of elaborate nutrient calculation to be healthy as a vegetarian or vegan, or that only otherwise healthy adults can survive that way. Or even ask what can they can possibly eat other than salad. In my experience, you eat… food. It’s not rocket science. Anyone who eats even vaguely normally won’t really need to think about it (i.e., not anorexic, not eating cereal for every meal, not any other kind of disordered eating that would also make a carnivore sick). Maybe some need to pay attention to how much protein they eat, if they don’t like nuts or something.

      And yes, it’s perfectly healthy for a four year old to eat a vegan diet. Or a two year old. Or even a 99 year old with cancer. I’m pretty sure most toddlers live on spaghetti and Cheerios and peanut butter sandwiches anyway.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 8:24 pm   rating: 38  small thumbs up

       
    • #59.3   Catt of the Garage

      I agree re: veggie diets are as healthy or unhealthy as any other diets, but vegan diets are very hard to make safe for kids under 5 or so. At that age they should be getting most of their calories from fat (not carbs like an adult), and that plus the huge need for calcium means cutting out dairy is not a great idea. I’m not saying it’s impossible – there are lots of lacto-intolerant kids who are kept healthy by special diets – but it’s hard. I would find it hard to justify it; but then I’m not vegan. But anyone who wants to put a young child onto a special diet needs to study HARD as to their nutritional needs, as they are very different from adults’.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:14 am   rating: 36  small thumbs up

       
    • #59.4   Army of Words

      I remember reading about a vegan couple who were being charged with child neglect (it might have been a different charge, it was a while ago) because their young child died from malnutrition because they insisted on only giving him vegan food. I remember milk was the big issue.

      Anyway, the note writer is a piece of work and sounds like they might be a sociopath.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 9:24 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #59.5   bookworm

      Young growing brains need fat and protein in amounts greater than adults. It may be possible to keep a young child healthy on a vegan diet, but you’ll be supplementing a lot of things. Isn’t it healthier at that point to just keep the kid on the real deal?

      Jul 9, 2011 at 1:50 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #60   Sof

    I’d order take-out for dinner. Sit down together, all nice and polite. Then the delivery guy shows up. Drop the box on the table, open, and BAM – a bucketload of sushi. Eat it by hand, making deliciousness-induced moans, right across the table from the vegan-douche. Offer to share. If the horror of the proposal is enough for a shock-induced CVA, problem solved.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:42 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

     
  • #61   Bevlar

    I LOVE the fact that the veggies that your vegan friend eats will be fertilised with animal shit… what about fabric softener? animal products in there! Does she have any leather anywhere? Bet she does!!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:43 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

    • #61.1   Kat

      I am a vegetarian with animal justice issues and I use fabric softener with no animal by-products and no leather, it really isn’t that hard. I actually have bigger issues with vegans and vegetarians who are so strict with their diets but still use leather products and products tested on animals. Not using animal-tested products is so much more difficult than following a vegan diet. Somehow it is okay for animals to be tortured for their entire lives so that people can wear mascara, but eating honey isn’t okay because it is too taxing on the bees is not. It makes no sense and just increases my intolerance with judgmental vegans.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 7:45 am   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #62   Ginger

    I used to live with a bunch of angry vegans in college. We lived in cooperative living and had to cook for each other. We got a lot of complaints if we didn’t cook a vegan option, but then our vegan option was sneered at and never eaten when we did cook it. It really pissed me off.

    In the last year I’ve stopped using animal products when I cook at home, which was a personal health choice. However, if I go out with friends or over to someone’s house and they serve meat/animal products, I say thank you and eat it. Big deal. Note writer needs to get over herself.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:44 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

     
  • #63   mike

    I am a vegetarian and I LOATHE vegans. I think these self righteous idiots should be shot in the throat and left to bleed out where they fall. Seriously.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:44 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

     
  • #64   Lila_Reign

    I hope the self-righteous vegan knows that no one can be 100% vegan; the human body needs vitamin B-12 to function properly, and it cannot be found in nature in a plant (or fungus). It can only be found in animals- mainly cows, sheep, poultry and pigs. That multivitamin she should be taking everyday to maintain her B-12 levels probably gets the B-12 from beef.

    On a horribly vindictive and slightly cruel note- if I was the omnivore roomie, I’d offer the vegan McDonald’s french fries- they’re fried in 98% vegetable oil, 2% beef tallow.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:47 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #64.1   Yeah

      B12 is produced by bacteria, not animals.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 4:58 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

       
    • #64.2   Freegan

      There are many sources for B-12 and most come from bacteria which you can gain by eating non pasteurized food (often fermented food). There is a substance that I and many vegan/ vegetarians I know eat called nutritional yeast and it is both a seasoning (good for a chicken free soup base) and provides complex B vitamins. There is also miso, tempah, and vegan kimchee…

      I am by no means a slender vegan, and I have quite a few vegan friends who are not ultra thin. Having a nutritionally balanced diet is possible no matter what ethics one puts behind it.

      On another note, I have met more than my share of militant omnivores. Who just because I said I was vegan teased me about putting things I didn’t want to eat into my food, did the meat is murder tasty tasty murder schtick, or simply went out of their way to emphasize mastication when they were eating meat. Omnivores are the majority and they can be just as oppressive about defending their eating style. I once had a roommate flip out when I asked him to cover the raw duck (that he put on the top shelf of the fridge and it dripped all over my food) because of said dripping and the fact that it was head on and still had eyes in…that was yuck. Do I write aggressive notes about not eating meat to roommates, no…Will I seriously consider not sharing my house with a meat eater ever again, yes…mostly because of the same kind of things that folks were advocating doing to her in this thread…waving meat around, making meat talk to me, storing meat on a inappropriate shelf in the fridge (thus creating a hazard), and sneaking meat into my food (something that actually made me ill before that person did the hah hah disclosure). I don’t leave you aggressive notes. You don’t be aggressive about your meat preference. FAIR

      Jul 6, 2011 at 10:19 pm   rating: 64  small thumbs up

       
    • #64.3   Lasha Tumbai

      I agree with you Freegan. I am not a vegan or vegetarian, but I have seen people on both sides of the issue be utterly obnoxious about it. A friend of mine in high school did not eat meat because it made her physically ill. People would make snide comments and wave meat at her, because they assumed she was trying to be holier-than-thou for simply politely refusing meat if it was offered to her. I myself went through a period where I did not eat beef, and my father would get angry with me and yell at me to eat the steak he made for me. He knew when he made it that I had no interest in eating it.

      I eat meat of all kinds now, but I am still very careful in how it’s stored and how it’s cooked. I can’t even imagine how angry I would be if my roommate let raw meat drip on the other food in the fridge.

      Everyone should be allowed to judge for themselves what they put in their own body without having to tolerate ridiculous comments.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 12:08 am   rating: 25  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #65   KDW

    Dear Crazy-Vegan Roommate,
    I am really getting more serious about my omnivore way of eating. I find it really disturbing that you shun my diet and refuse to eat the meat, eggs, dairy, and honey that I go out of my way to purchase and bring into our home. I really can’t believe you would treat me and my morals this way. Please stop storing your tofu, seitan, and fake cheese in our refrigerator. That stuff creeps me out. Eat a burger! You’ll feel (and look) much better.
    Thanks!
    Your Omnivorous Roomie who has the right to eat whatever the heck I want!!!!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:51 pm   rating: 84  small thumbs up

     
  • #66   LM

    I love how they compare eating meat to child abuse.
    If I were the submitter I would ask that douche to move out.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:53 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #66.1   Byatch

      In “Supersize Me”, Morgan Spurlock’s insane, vegan girlfriend likens ham to heroin….

      Jul 9, 2011 at 12:37 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #66.2   bookworm

      The “last meal” she cooked for him looked disgusting as well.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 1:54 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #67   Shannon

    My solution (if I were in this situation): Tell the roommate you’re going vegan too, and were really inspired by her efforts to change you. Then follow these steps:

    Step 1: Buy a bunch of vegan food (it’s costly, but it’ll be worth it).
    Step 2: Cook a meal for your roommate to share with you. But, while cooking, toss in a bunch of random meat products, milk, whatever. Stuff she won’t notice, or will think is tofu or something.
    Step 3: Watch in delight as she eats what you’ve prepared.
    Step 4: Inform her of what you’ve done.
    Step 5: Probably gonna wanna move out at this point, lest ye wish to face the wrath of an angry, malnourished roommate.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:53 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #67.1   Slim Jim

      as a vegetarian who has received just such a PA serving of meat, I have to say, I hope you only apply this trick to psycho vegheads who try to force their diet on others. I don’t care what you eat, but you damn well better not toss anything into my food.

      But George Costanza beat you to it, when a kosher Jew pissed him off and he deliberately, sneakily served her lobster.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:22 pm   rating: 36  small thumbs up

       
    • #67.2   Nunavut Guy

      This person is a capital douche bag;but putting stuff into someone’s food out-douches aforementioned douche.

      Is douche-bag hyphenated?

      Jul 6, 2011 at 8:51 pm   rating: 48  small thumbs up

       
    • #67.3   bookworm

      Slim Jim: I remember that, that was so funny. Especially the part where it turned out she was also allergic to shellfish. Food allergies are so funny.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 1:55 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #68   lw

    Submitter should buy a whole hog head and leave that in the fridge.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:54 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #68.1   quat

      It goes nicely with the horse head on the pillow.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 8:25 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #69   R2P2

    What do you even say to that?! I would tell the recipient to keep doing what she’s doing, but I would worry that crazy roommate would throw out any meat-product, thus costing the recipient tons of money. All the other passive-aggressive ideas are hilarious, but let’s face it: such an unhinged militant is never going to see her own hypocrisy. Submitter just needs to get out of there and fast. I’m actually curious about a follow-up. Submitter, please tell us you are still alive and haven’t been arrested for understandably assaulting this idiot.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:56 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

     
  • #70   T'laryth Phalyn

    Oh holy shyt. The submitters roomie has lost her little mind. I’m a beekeeper (and an omnivore) and once or twice a year I’ll have some began twats screaming at me at a farmer’s market about how horrible I am. I keep bacon with me in a cooler just for those times. I take out a piece and start munching, commenting on how delicious it is. If they continue I offer them a piece. :D I made a vegan cry this way.

    I have no problem with folks doing what they think is right for themselves (even if I do think they’re horribly misguided) but leave me and my diet out of it. Otherwise I may just have to toss you on a BBQ to make a point.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 4:57 pm   rating: 139  small thumbs up

    • #70.1   Roto13

      I’mg giving you a thumbs up for making a vegan cry.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:31 pm   rating: 40  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #71   Tori

    My kids and I went to a playgroup christmas party last year. One of the other mothers kicked up a big stink the week before that jelly products – jellybeans, snake lollies etc – were not to be served (one mother was making a jellybean cake for the occasion).
    The reason? – she was vegan and so her poor 3 year old was not allowed to eat animal products, which apparently includes gelatin. And shame on us other mothers for torturing her poor little one with food right in front of her that she would not be allowed to eat as it would taint her precious little body. And of course we would be discriminating against her child by making her feel different from the other kids because she couldn’t eat everything on the table.
    I had no words. And still don’t.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:00 pm   rating: 40  small thumbs up

    • #71.1   lagne

      As a chef/pastry chef, I make all of my family memebers’ birthday cakes. One of the little girls at my 5-year-old’s recent birthday party has major allergies and can’t eat conventional cake. Her mother was ON it, though, with lots of snacks and cakey-cake things for the little girl to munch… which is the appropriate way to handle such a situation.

      (and I’d already been informed about the little girl’s physical issues, so I brought gluten/dairy/egg-free cupcakes for her.. because, although she had plenty of snacks, the idea of a three-year-old not being able to partake with the rest of her friends on a special occasion is just.. sigh.)

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:12 pm   rating: 84  small thumbs up

       
    • #71.2   Kain

      the kid is going to grow up malnourished and wont be able to go outside to enjoy life because she cant run. Her mother is going to be the death of her physically and or mentally.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:45 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #71.3   illuminaut

      @Kain: Most vegans I know are extremely well informed about the impact of their diet, especially if they’re making their kids go along with it. It’s usually everybody else who is ignorant, and I’m sure if I was a vegan parent I’d probably punch the face of the next person to tell me I’m mistreating my kids.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:08 pm   rating: 37  small thumbs up

       
    • #71.4   lagne

      sorry, should’ve said “my five-year-old NEPHEW’S” party. I don’t have kids. But if I did, I imagine I’d agree wholeheartedly with illuminaut.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:16 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #71.5   Sean Jungian

      Yeah, I can’t get behind the “raising kids vegan is tantamount to child abuse” argument. I’m an omnivore (again, after 10 years lacto-ovo vegetarian and 3 years vegan [non-militant strain]) but my best friend raised her child vegan (also non-militant strain) and the child is a healthy, happy vegan 22 year old. Granted, that’s anecdotal evidence, but still, get off it already.

      Definitely the mom insisting no one else eat jelly candy just because she decided her child can’t, is a bitch.

      I can’t even describe the writer of the pa note, oh man.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:45 pm   rating: 29  small thumbs up

       
    • #71.6   Britt

      My boss is a vegetarian, but bought and cooked meat for her kids while they were growing up. Greatest mum ever, I think, not forcing her personal choices on her kids.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 9:19 pm   rating: 25  small thumbs up

       
    • #71.7   bookworm

      You’d think that people would want their kids to feel encouraged to get a wide variety of foods in their diet. There are so many kids living off of chicken fingers and mac and cheese. Taking a kid who might otherwise be interested in trying a bunch of foods and denying them the ability to try in favor of your own personal morals just seems counterproductive.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 2:00 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #71.8   Masanagi

      Any jellybeans I’ve come across contain no gelatin and are vegan, btw. Poor kid.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 10:47 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #72   Mama Wrench

    “I’ve just made a deeply personal decision and I demand that you respect it by behaving in every way as though you’ve made the same decision, or else you’re being intolerant.”

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:00 pm   rating: 79  small thumbs up

     
  • #73   meeper

    I’m not sure which are worse – militant vegans or preachy born again Christians.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:05 pm   rating: 32  small thumbs up

    • #73.1   Kain

      preachy born again militant vegan Christians ….

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:41 pm   rating: 46  small thumbs up

       
    • #73.2   Ana

      Can we watch them fight to the death, or at least get gravely injured in an MMA style fight? (one group against the other)

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:13 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #73.3   quat

      The Christians would paint themselves with the blood of the lamb and win it. Easy. Plus, they eat meat, so they are bigger and stronger.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 8:29 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

       
    • #73.4   Suryz

      What about those pushy, super religion-hating atheists?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 6:52 am   rating: 35  small thumbs up

       
    • #73.5   Languagegeek

      Zealotry in any form is ugly.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:59 am   rating: 51  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #74   Jessica

    Wow. This person sounds like they should join Peta. I live in a state with a high number of vegans (I have several vegan friends)–and only one vegan I’ve come across personally has pissed me off (really, vegans should not work as prep cooks in non-vegan restaurants). This person, though, needs a swift kick to the balls, and the recipient of the letter needs a new roommate that isn’t so pushy.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:08 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

    • #74.1   Sean Jungian

      Please, please, that teaser “vegans should not work as prep cooks in non-vegan restaurants” is just too good to keep to yourself! Elaborate, please!

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:49 pm   rating: 35  small thumbs up

       
    • #74.2   AuntyBron

      Yeah! That was quite a throwaway line, Jess! Details, please.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:22 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #74.3   Megan

      As a member of PETA, I can say for sure: we don’t want this one.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 7:45 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #74.4   Sarah

      My fiance worked at a non-vegetarian restaurant when he was vegan. He was vegan for environmental reasons though and never cares what other people eat so this wasn’t really an issue.

      Jul 12, 2011 at 8:03 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #75   IKilled007

    Is it still considered vegan if the roommate force-feeds this paper with ink on it to the bitch?

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:09 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #76   Sunny

    oh my, there is so many things wrong in this letter that i cannot even start… i wouldn’t blame all vegan… just this one!!! i wanna slap her in the face!!! with a steak!!! xD

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:09 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #77   Coco

    Hey roomie,
    Gone big game hunting – be back soon. Please make sure I have a big space in the kitchen when I get back – I’ll be skinning, quartering and butchering the animals for consumption later (BBQ!). I know it’s a time consuming and grueling task. It is a lot of work but, fresh meat is so worth while and delicious. You should put down that soy mush shaped like a burger and try it. It could make you feel better, look better and change your ugly judgemental holier then thou arrogant vile spewing you’ve been prone to.

    xoxo

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:11 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

     
  • #78   Slim Jim

    I’ve been a vegetarian for years, even went vegan for awhile, but if a roommate hit me with this I would immediately go buy a side of beef and a chest freezer.

    I mean, if we’re thinking of renting a place together and you want to insist on this, fine, I’ll find someone else. but you don’t change the rules in the middle of a lease.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:15 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

     
  • #79   deprogrammed

    Kill the vegan tramp and grill her apparently USDA Prime corn and grain fed meat. Barring that, kick her snot-nosed self-righteousness to any curb that won’t make her bounce.

    I guess tolerance is unilateral.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:16 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #80   applewench

    Dear Submitter:
    Please, for me, do two things…
    1)Befriend a baby deer. Bring said baby deer home as a pet, and let anal vegan roommate become attached. Keep baby deer at the apartment for a month or two, and keep feeding baby deer lots of good food. Take baby deer to farm one day while roommate is out, and drop her off to run and play and live in peace forever.
    On your way home, drop by the exotic meats section of your local grocery store, and pick up several packages of venison. Repackage venison meat in butcher paper, write “Bambi” on the outside and place in the freezer. (Or cook “Bambi” up…yum!)
    2) Adopt a low carb lifestyle.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:18 pm   rating: 27  small thumbs up

     
  • #81   Susie Bright

    I don’t think this letter has anything to do with meat or meat eating. It has “sexual neuroses” written between every word, with a healthy helping of “barely suppressed rage.” I would be moving out there so fast you’d barely see my dust.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:23 pm   rating: 28  small thumbs up

     
  • #82   johnny2hats

    It seems to me like there are far far more omnivores bitching about self-righteous militant vegans/vegetarians than there are actual self-righteous militant vegans/vegetarians in the world. I was a vegetarian for about 15 years and I never encountered one who was even fractionally as much of a prick about it as this note writer. And yet I met quite a few wankers who tried to convince me to eat a hamburger or a bacon sandwich or what have you. funny that.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:26 pm   rating: 48  small thumbs up

    • #82.1   lagne

      Many of my friends are vegan, but I don’t claim to know a LOT of vegans, if that makes sense. The vegans I know are wonderful. They’re committed to their lifestyle, and don’t really even bring it up unless 1) it’s relevent to a conversation, or 2) someone asks.

      If I knew a vegan, vegetarian, or omnivore like this notewriter, we would NOT be friends.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:44 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #82.2   illuminaut

      It’s probably rare you have such an encounter with an all-out rabid militant unless they happen to be your roommate and things have been stewing for a while. Smug, passive-aggressive vegans, however, are omnipresent, and annoy me about as much as smug, passive-aggressive religious people.

      Agreed tho, omnivores making fun of vegetarians/vegans however can go fuck themselves as well. I’m sure they’ve heard all the meat-related jokes before; no need to be a douche.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 5:49 pm   rating: 39  small thumbs up

       
    • #82.3   Slurreydude

      I worked in a company that was about 20% vegan, some of them raw foodist vegan, and most of them were perfectly nice reasonable people, but about a quarter of them were peta card carrying millitant vegans who would willingly force the metropolis i live in the eat only food grown within a hundred kilometers… (considering we have mountain on one side and sea on the other this was) vegetables only… meat was forbidden

      Jul 6, 2011 at 10:13 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #82.4   Languagegeek

      I have a friend who was born to hippie parents before being hippie was cool and has therefore _never _ eaten meat or had an alcoholic beverage (until she was 51, then there were margaritas) or been vaccinated for anything. Ever. However, she encourages meat eaters to eat meat because she likes leather shoes and handbags. She doesn’t eat meat because she now lacks the enzymes to process it, but she’s cool, non-judgy, and not a whiner about “[she] can’t eat this, that, or the other.”

      OTOH, I have a vegan co-worker who is a PITA. It’s a look-at-me! exercise with her every time. “Oh, I can’t eat that.” And I correct her every time, “Not can’t. Won’t.” I agree that she can’t eat meat (that enzyme thing again), but all the other stuff is a choice. She’s not quite militant with it, but DAMN! she is annoying. Office potlucks are…frustrating. “What kind of oil did you use to fry the potatoes? Were the beans made with lard? I need a special order from the pizza place.” And on and on and on. Sometimes I roll my eyes so much I get a headache.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:20 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #82.5   aquascum

      Interesting, I had never heard of the ‘enzyme thing’ before. Do you have any proof of that?

      Jul 12, 2011 at 1:34 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #83   gina

    This is rage-inducing and extremely hypocritical. Why did she go vegan? To impress the skinny guy at the avant garde coffee shop with the pierre moustache who wears ski-hats even though it’s summer?

    I just finished making delicious tacos, and now I’m planning on defrosting a rib-eye steak to cook before work tomorrow. Meat is awesome.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:30 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #83.1   Seanette

      Too hot where I live to cook, but I think I hear the makings of a roast beef with cheese sandwich calling out to me……

      Jul 6, 2011 at 7:47 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #84   KT

    I certainly hope the letter writer doesn’t perform oral sex on her boyfriend (which she probably doesn’t, as she’s obviously a royal bitch and a pain in the ass). If she does, then she is breaking her own vows of food chastity by eating meat.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:31 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

     
  • #85   Meghan

    We need a follow up on this. Seriously.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:31 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #86   Alell

    I’m a vegan. (13 years now.) My husband and my seven children are vegans.

    And I can’t stand vegans. For this reason! They’re so damn self-righteous.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:33 pm   rating: 25  small thumbs up

     
  • #87   Kain

    Veggies come from the ground. The Ground is fertilizes by animal waste and carcass…so unless you are manning your own garden. Where do you draw the line. What kind of cloths are you wearing? Wool? Oh Damn…your wearing some poor sheep! Shoes? Unless you wear Hemp. Even those plastic shoes….oil. Animal. Did she write in pen or pencil? Pens are made with plastic…which happens to also be a break down of an oil product. Perfectly fine to live your life the way you want it. But its wrong to force others to live your life. Time to get a new roommate.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:37 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #87.1   Suzi

      Well, to be fair to the non-insane vegans, the issue is stuff that comes from animals without harming them (like poop, or wool) is different to things that cause harm or death (eggs, steak, leather). Stuff like milk is seen to be, in a round-about way, ‘harming’ the offspring who should be feeding from the cow, or honey, which is the winter food-store of the bees, and while this interference might not end in death (cows made to produce milk after weaning the calves and/or calves weaned early and put onto synthetic substitutes, bees kept in winter houses where they’re fed by the keepers,e tc.), it is seen as essentially imprisoning the animal and denying it the right to breed, feed, and live as it should be.

      All very well and good, but I won’t be tossing my bacon sarnie ’cause of it! :)

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:02 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #87.2   lagne

      I don’t say this to be flippant, but I’ve often wondered whether militant/fundie vegans consider the fact that all kinds of insects and small animals are unavoidably killed or “tampered with” in order to create even animal-free foodstuffs. All kinds of insects, bunnies, mice, gophers, and other animals are killed in order to plow a field. Unless items are grown hydroponically, I really don’t see how “cruelty” is 100% unavoidable.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 6:07 pm   rating: 30  small thumbs up

       
    • #87.3   Scott

      The vegans sure don’t have a problem smoking all that pot which was grown with fertilizer, animal crap, dead insects and animals and who knows what else.

      I guess, to vegans, inhaling animals is quite different than ingesting them.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 7:08 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #87.4   Crystal

      lagne, to answer your question, being vegan is about causing the least amount of harm you can. It is impossible to cause no harm, as you are right, there is death that happens in the harvesting of vegetables, but it’s about trying to suck less instead of being perfect. It’s about controlling what you can, not really about purity. Hope that clears it up! :)

      That being said, this girl is an idiot and makes all vegans look super bad, crazy and militant.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:58 am   rating: 23  small thumbs up

       
    • #87.5   Languagegeek

      @Suzy

      Not to my co-worker. She won’t wear leather, wool, or silk, an instead wraps herself in (primarily) polyester and nylon in the Texas heat (evidence of insanity). I figure that’s some justice. She talks about animal testing and animal rescue and is frankly, an animal hoarder. A zillion dogs (over 10) and at least 5 cats. Plus she feeds strays and actively works to lure other people’s pets away because “they’re not taking care of them [the animals].” She does not like humans, but is anything and all for animals. Dealing with her is absolutely maddening.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:26 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #87.6   Canthz_B bang

      Vegans, you are living organisms. The fuel you need to consume to live happen to be living organisms.
      There’s no escaping that fact.
      You can stop at not eating “anything with a face”, but if you do so you’re deeming other life forms as inferior just because they have no face.
      Honey? really? That’s a by-product of bee existence, not bee eating.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:42 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #87.7   Byatch

      @ Suzy

      Here’s the rub. Vegans acknowledge we need animal fertilisers to grow veg, but ignore the fact that the only reason we have access to animal fertiliser is due to animal husbandry. Which is generally for meat, eggs, or milk.

      @ Canthz

      I love that “nothing with a face” crap. Had a vegetarian staying with me who said she wouldn’t eat anything “with a face”, so I offered shellfish… only to be told that they apparently do have “a face” even though we “can’t see it”.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 12:55 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #87.8   Canthz_B bang

      Can they eat a potato that looks like Richard Nixon? I hope so, because all potatoes do!

      Jul 9, 2011 at 4:01 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
    • #87.9   krisb

      @Byatch: This old song has been stuck in my head since I started reading this thread and is fairly relevant to your comment.

      No chowder for you, cause clams have feelings too.
      Actually they don’t have central nervousness.
      No Manhattan style, clams have the right to smile.
      Come to think about it they don’t have a face.

      They have no face, no place for ears.
      There’s no clam eyes to cry clam tears
      No spinal cord, they must get bored
      Might as well just put them out of misery.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 4:52 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #88   Connie

    Wow!! So her roommate cannot have ANY type of meat in the house not even in her ROOM??? This must not be her roommate at ALL!! This must be a free loader that isn’t paying any bills and is just eating, sleeping, and pooping. That’s the ONLY way this vegan roommate can dictate what SHE will allow in HER apartment. I hope this roommate woke her vegan ass up to what’s reality and what is fantasy. You cannot dictate what YOU want if YOU aren’t paying all of the bills. That’s HER kitchen as well, that’s HER living quarters as well not just yours!! I would have a MEAT-ONLY party, and have meat in the appetizers, the salad, the main meal, and the desert, and have meat in gift bags as well. Yea let’s see you tell me what YOU won’t be having in YOUR house smh

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:47 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #89   kermit

    This note is just beginning for a response in kind, something like the following (on a white board or in email form, but definitely not paper):

    Dear Vegan,

    I have to say, I thought you were a lot smarter and considerate than you have proven yourself to be. You are very well aware that I have been getting more serious about the plight of trees and the chemicals in the environment.

    You know I feel uncomfortable around paper, but here I find two whole pages, written in ink! Do you have any idea how much ball point ink pollutes the environment or how many trees have to be cut down every day because people are too inconsiderate to use environmentally friendly means of communication?

    Why didn’t you use the environmentally friendly white board that specifically bought for this purpose? Also, why do you persist on using toilet paper instead of the bidet I had installed? I guess you’re the kind of vegan that hates the environment.

    Yes, I know we live in a world where we’re supposed to be “tolerant”. However, I believe we have to stick up for our beliefs and draw the line somewhere.

    1) I can no longer tolerate seeing you waste so much paper and ink anywhere in the apartment, do you understand?

    2) I am truly disturbed by your lack of respect for my feelings and morals. You could at the very least confine your wasteful use of paper to your own room, away from me so that I don’t see how much paper you’re wasting writing your study notes for class.

    3) Why do you buy so much paper and ink? You never use it all and you throw it in the garbage after your classes are done anyway. This is a waste.

    4) Please think about changing your habits. I realize that you will continue to use paper and ink outside our apartment, but let that small grain of doubt lead you to a better path. Millions of trees don’t have to die early deaths and waterways don’t have to be polluted with ink if you just start using a netbook or an iPad.

    With love and gratitude – the one person in this house who cares about the environment.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:51 pm   rating: 89  small thumbs up

    • #89.1   Clumber

      Perfect, Kermit, freaking perfect.
      ♥♥♥♥♥ in lieu of being able to thumb ya’ multiple times.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:09 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #90   Suzi

    Hey, Vegan Nutcase is being reasonable: she says the submitter can eat as much meat as she wants to outside the apartment! and since this is to convenience her, clearly she’ll be paying for her to eat breakfast, lunch, dinner, and the odd snack, at restaurants each and every day. Sounds dead generous to me!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:57 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

     
  • #91   Chicon

    I live for this kind of crap. Seriously. Here’s what you do.

    Build a little cabin out of Slim Jims. You know, kind of like a Lincoln Log cabin. Within the meat abode, you place a note explaining why exclusive plant consumption is offensive to you. Deforestation and a lack of green space, perhaps? Or you could find a kooky cult that worships plant and say you’ve converted. Whatever suits your fancy.

    At the end of the note, beg her to find a non-plant source of Vitamin A. Explain that her eyesight is failing. After all, she doesn’t look any better than she did before.

    Other options include finding some weird cut of meat, preferably a head, at your local butcher shop and putting it in her bead. Or creating a drumstick mobile and assembling a meat art installation in the common area.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 5:59 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #91.1   Languagegeek

      “You’re eating the plants that keep us alive!!! Deforestation! Killing the rainforests! Oh, waily waily!”

      Or in the words of Ron White, “Why are you a vegetarian?’ I asked him. And it wasn’t even because meat is bad for you. He said that raising cattle was bad for the planet — with cow flatulence in the ozone and the clearing of land for the raising of cattle. ‘What are you doing to help the environment?’ ‘I’m eating the cows.”

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:57 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #91.2   Megan

      Not that this is your point, but did you know that feeding livestock uses up significantly more plants and space and former forest than directly feeding people? Cows are hefty, after all.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 7:55 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #91.3   Divvitar

      Start by shouting at her: “I am the Lorax, I speak for the Trees!”

      Jul 11, 2011 at 12:33 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #92   Dawn

    Oh this is so ridiculous! I’m an omnivore and have lived in roommate situations with several vegetarian/vegan roommates just fine without anyone demanding that the other not bring home any sort of food that they ate. Its out of control to thing that your personal food choices MUST be the food choices of those around you as well. Also I know two couples, one the wife is vegan and the husband is an omnivore. She’ll cook meat for her husband and they are raising their two sons omnivore with lots of vegetarian/vegan recipies alternated in so that they can make up their minds when they get older. The other couple, the wife is a strict vegan and her husband is a vegetarian who eats dairy, fish and occasionally chicken. She eats what she eats, he eats what he eats and they are raising their daughter the same as the other couple I know so that she can make her own choice because both of the wives realize that veganism is a PERSONAL CHOICE that is yours to make and not to be forced on others just because you live with them.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:03 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #92.1   Rattus

      *ahem* The husband is NOT a vegetarian who sometimes eats fish and chicken. Vegetarians NEVER eat fish, chicken or any flesh based foodstuffs. People who eat fish and chicken along with your various fruit, vegetables and grains are ominivores.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 2:49 pm   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
    • #92.2   Kayte

      That’d be a variety of pescatarian, not vegetarian, I think…

      Jul 8, 2011 at 2:02 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #93   CrazyVeganHater

    Ugh. I used to work with one. She insisted that ALL company functions be Vegan-only. Which is funny, because another woman in the office was also Vegan, and management ALWAYS provided not just a vegetarian option, but a full-on Vegan option. But no. That wasn’t good enough. So most of us stopped contributing money toward catering for office events and started bringing our own food instead, which was expressly non-Vegan.

    Your beliefs are your beliefs, and that’s fine, UNTIL you start lecturing me on mine. I would have left an equally tart note explaining that I am wholly disgusted by the mere smell of vegetables (which I am, but I would not normally say that to someone) and would also request that in addition to no dairy, honey, or animal products being kept in the house that all plant-based products also be kept out of the house as well, you know, in fairness to BOTH parties.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:03 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

     
  • #94   Flora

    Thanks a lot, rude-ass vegan, for making my mostly-vegan life just a little harder.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:07 pm   rating: 33  small thumbs up

     
  • #95   Jasmine

    I think Epic Meal Time would need to become a reality in our household. I pay rent. You will not dictate to me what my diet looks like, you lunatic.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:14 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #96   Tanith

    Where’s the consideration for the meat-eater??? It goes both ways!!! The vegan should respect that the roommate eats meat!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:15 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #97   DS

    I’m pretty sure I’d buy a cheap roast or two, cut all the meat into hundreds of small chunks and hide them all over the house the day before I left.

    Leave a fake forwarding address and take her calls only to laugh at her outrage.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:19 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #98   I, anonymous

    That vegan was fucking delicious.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:21 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

     
  • #99   Moe

    Infer from the intro that the vegan owns the house and the omnivore moved in.
    This letter is essentially an eviction. The omnivore can simply move out without notice and sue for return of unused rent and deposits.
    She’d easily win. Even with a vegetarian judge.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:27 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

     
  • #100   snazzygina

    Wow. This really proves that vegans *ARE* a pain in the ASS!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:30 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #101   magilmer

    So, I was vegan for 5 years, vegetarian for two years prior to that. I was admittedly self-righteous, but never did I attack someone for their dietary choices unless mine were attacked first. When I finally gave in and ate bacon for the first time in seven years, I realized how misguided I had been. This roommate has a hell of a lot more wrong with her than her self-imposed dietary restrictions.

    Again, SELF-IMPOSED, as in not insisting everyone else anywhere near you should also deprive themselves.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:40 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #102   noey1210

    Miss Note Writer here needs to eat a bacon burger covered in cheese, some fries, drink a milkshake and STFU.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:47 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #103   Ugh

    Wow not much to say that hasn’t been covered. I know some great vegans and this shit would really piss them off. My favorite PA part is that note writer has been dropping hints for weeks. I can only imagine those hints. Damn run far, run fast, don’t look back.
    P.S. Honey is fucking delicious

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:49 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #103.1   Grant

      She’s like, the Taliban of veganism. She’ll be blowing up the fridge next as it’s a former temple to animal sacrifice.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 4:11 am   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #104   Fred Butters

    “The sight of honey makes me want to cry because of the animals – I mean insects, whatever!”

    But every time I cry, I instantly fall asleep from lack of energy.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:51 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #105   Scott

    This is why nobody likes vegans – all that smug, holier-than-thou, “I know what’s best for you, not you!” attitude. Was this person paying rent? If so, the lunatic needs to mind their own business. Bossy vegans needs to get a life – they should just stick together so they can drive each other nuts playing that “I hold the key to life” crap. Vegans must be a bunch of welfare queens to have that kinda time on their hands. I wouldn’t befriend a vegan because I guarantee I’d deck you on the first day. If we want to hear a bunch of naggy BS, most of us already have a mom.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:51 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #106   homer

    I became a vegetarian in 1983. I have never commented on other people’s choice of foods. I don’t care what other people eat.

    In contrast, you would not believe the nasty things people have said to me because I don’t eat meat. For whatever reason, other men sometimes feel the need to chastise me and tell me how unhealthy and unmasculine it is to be a vegetarian.

    My father was particularly angry and would demand that I eat bologna or hot dogs (I refused). Of course he dropped dead at age 65 from a heart attack caused by eating a diet of crappy foods, but that is another story.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:53 pm   rating: 42  small thumbs up

    • #106.1   Scott

      Same here – I don’t care what YOU’RE ordering and don’t need a lecture over what I ordered.

      At this time of year I become like a vegetarian because hot food of any sort becomes repulsive and would rather settle for cold raw veg. And then I alternate later in the year.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 7:22 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #106.2   Canthz_B bang

      Homer, cardiovascular disease is just as likely to be linked to hereditary factors as to dietary habits.
      It’s entirely possible that you too will have cardiovascular difficulties no matter what you eat, God forbid.
      Hell, you could die of an e. coli infection from eating veggies some farm worker shit on. Is that a better demise than clogged arteries?
      Frankly, I’d rather die because I ate too much meat than because I ate shit, but that’s just me.

      Personally, I think that since tomorrows aren’t promised to any of us, we should all enjoy our todays as we see fit.

      You only go around this ride we call Life once, and there are no do-overs if you find your ride is shorter than you thought or hoped it would be.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 3:52 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #107   Emland

    Time to load up the fridge with organ meats!

    I would be looking for a new place myself. Living with a crazy like that will only get worse.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 6:56 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #108   Uninspired Required Name

    Wow, screw that chick, get a new roommate ASAP. You’re both paying to live there, b*tch can deal with the groceries that you choose to pay for yourself. It’s not like you’re preparing meals for the both of you out of this. Seriously demented chicka.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 7:05 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #109   Ashley

    I am a vegan (for moral, ecological, and health reasons), and I am open to answering questions that people often ask – but I do NOT proselytize. As an atheist who grew up in the bible belt, I find unsolicited preaching repulsive and would never do it to others.

    I will say that I receive equally hateful treatment from christians and meat-eaters, despite minding my own business about religion and food.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 7:10 pm   rating: 46  small thumbs up

    • #109.1   Scott

      Same background, Ashley. And I’m also an Atheist but don’t promote it for the fact I don’t want anyone pushing their religion on me. But I will be happy to insult one of them who’s getting in my business – especially if they’re a drunk, lardass, slut or one of these other “deadly sins” they’re ignoring in their own lives. Nothing’s more hilarious than somebody with obvious problems trying to make everyone else feel like they’re the one with the problem.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 8:09 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #109.2   *snerk*

      So mentioning to you that Jesus is the lamb of god, the atoning sacrifice for all our sins, and how we should all be washed in the blood of the lamb would *not* be a persuasive conversion tactic for you, Ashley?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:02 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #109.3   bored@work

      As Ashley said, she is a Vegan, so “lamb” and “blood” would not be the best routes to utililize. Perhaps if you tried to convince her that Jesus was a “vegetable” or even a “fruit”. But then, that wouldn’t be necessarily useful because we all know God hates fruits. I see it on signs in Key West all the time.

      @Scott – Next time you bump into one of those drunk sluts, send her my way;Unless, of course, she is a lardass.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 2:43 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #110   RigaToni

    Note Writer: Rub bacon on everything. Everything. EVERY light switch, the fridge door handle, the underside of every couch cushion.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 7:12 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #110.1   Scott

      Even better, make posters of Jeffrey Dahmer surrounded by all types of meat. Which would be ironically funny because PETA/Vegan types HAVE used Dahmer in the past for their loony bus-stop posters and things. And as psycho as they are, zero consideration for his victims and their families. Just to show how stupid they are (as “smart” and “intelligent” as they like to act): Dahmer only “ate” a small cooked bit of ONE victim’s arm muscle, not ALL of them as they suggest. They’re all so hopped up on antidepressants and stuff that they can’t even get their facts straight.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 7:31 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #110.2   Canthz_B bang

      Still, I have a problem with the late Mr. Dahmer’s preference for dark meat.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 3:43 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #111   Dalamara

    If I recieved this note, I would immediately start up on the Atkins diet.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 7:24 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #111.1   gnomestress bang

      There’s apparently a vegan version of atkins. I’m pretty sure it’s just anorexia though.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:47 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #112   Crystal

    urrrghhh. As a vegan, I’m totally embarassed by ridiculous fanatics like this who make all vegans look bad. Forking idiot, you don’t like someone eating meat around you, then YOU find a new place to live.

    Seriously, not all vegans are crazy, I promise.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 7:45 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

     
  • #113   Katy

    Okay… WHAT?!

    #1 – They’re ROOMMATES. Her beliefs are HER OWN, and she CAN’T force them upon anyone else. She has absolutely no right to tell her roommate to eat meat outside of the house and “not allow” meats inside the house anymore, or even suggesting her to hide in her room.

    #2 – Equating “tolerance of child abuse” with having meat in the house? How does that even compare?

    Oh, wait. I get it. I’m sure there are a few omnivores who would show that exact tolerance when the meat-eating roommate kicks that vegan’s ass… And then throws her out on the curb.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 7:50 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #113.1   Scott

      That’s what I was wondering – that’s a totally different ballgame. But again, that passive aggressive crap – trying to make YOU feel like a child abuser/enabler just because of your choice of food. “Christian” types are the same way: “Don’t (smoke/have homosex/etc.)! You’re destroying your temple!!”. And then they go get drunk.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 7:57 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #114   Kelly

    Yeah, for serious. I’m a vegan and most vegans are not militant cray-crays who accost their friends. Time for a new roommate!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 7:52 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #115   Coco

    MEAT IS MURDER…tasty tasty murder!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 7:56 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #115.1   ButMadNNW

      I prefer:

      Meat is murder. Quick, eat the evidence!

      Jul 8, 2011 at 12:54 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #116   Fanuto

    I’d suggest slitting the throat of a goat and then skinning it, in your living room.

    That would put things into perspective for her. And you could go with the “ok i admit the goat killing was a bit too much, I won’t do that again, if you let me eat my pork chops in peace…”

    Jul 6, 2011 at 8:00 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #116.1   Divvitar

      Gyros, anyone?

      Jul 11, 2011 at 12:43 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #117   GG

    I am dying to know what the submitter said in reply. I am almost sure if this person directly confronted the writer of this note, the writer would back down and shit her pants. People like this can’t handle crap like that, and I, for one, would like to see her squirm. Oh, and I hope she sees this post and is embarrassed.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 8:03 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #118   Doug

    The BAWWWWWWWWWWWWW is strong with this one.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 8:26 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #119   havingfitz

    Someone’s waking up next to a side of beef…

    Jul 6, 2011 at 8:36 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #120   Willliam

    The tragic irony, of course, is that veganism is child abuse that has resulted in the deaths of several babies around the world.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 8:36 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

     
  • #121   ME

    I partake not in the meat, nor the breastmilk, nor the ovum, of any creature, with a face.

    Short answer, vegans are just better than everyone else.

    bingo.

    ahahaha…great movie

    anyways, this woman is ridiculous. People like her make us vegans look insane.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 8:56 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #121.1   Egirl

      Does that include potatoes? They have eyes.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 9:49 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
    • #121.2   emcd

      Heads of lettuce?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:54 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #121.3   Canthz_B bang

      Ears of corn?

      Baby carrots?

      Finger sandwiches?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:58 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #121.4   *snerk*

      Girl Scout cookies?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:05 am   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
    • #121.5   Canthz_B bang

      ♥ *snerk*

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:16 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #121.6   *snerk*

      [blush]

      Jul 7, 2011 at 1:37 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #121.7   Masanagi

      It’s a Scott Pilgrim quote, y’all.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 11:02 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #122   Biddy

    I think we should fire up the grill and cook the writer of the note and eat them!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 9:04 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #122.1   AuntyBron

      You’ll just be hungry again in an hour.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 12:01 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #123   Pay The Piper

    So I have to know — did the submitter of the note continue to live with the vegetarian?

    Jul 6, 2011 at 9:14 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #124   Britt

    This. Is. Amazing. And exactly the kind of note my brother’s wife would leave, unfortunately.

    My boss is a vegetarian, but still buys and cooks meat for her kids. I thought veganism had a lot to do with HARMONY?

    Jul 6, 2011 at 9:14 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #125   Kay

    Dear Leonard,

    Section 11, subsection K of our Roommate Agreement clearly states that you have 48 hours to conform to any dietary changes I make as they occur, and likewise adopt all related morals dictating said changes. Now hop to it!

    Sheldon

    Jul 6, 2011 at 9:25 pm   rating: 57  small thumbs up

    • #125.1   egon

      Best comment…….ever!

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:48 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #126   devyn

    This girl is going about promoting veganism in the worst way possible! As a vegan myself, I know that these types of accusatory notes are no way to get people to change their habits. What a crazy roommate! Show your roommate the benefits of being a vegan, don’t chastise her!

    Jul 6, 2011 at 9:32 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #126.1   SilentPsycho

      Or instead of ‘showing her the benefits’ and ‘get people to change their habits’, why not just accept them no matter what they eat? Accept that it’s their choice, their body, their life.

      My brother’s girlfriend is vegetarian, and my family and I have never had a problem with that. We invite her to our BBQs, she invites us to hers. We always makes sure to buy Quorn and other veggie meals for her, while she always makes sure to buy meat for us. Both sides make sure to keep the different types apart, both while in storage and while cooking, and after that grueling five minutes or so that we actually think about this sort of stuff, we get on with the main aspects of the events – having fun, chatting with each other, and drinking lots of alcohol!

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:10 am   rating: 31  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #127   Ho-Ju

    All normal people love meat. If I went to a barbeque and there was no meat, I would say ‘Yo Goober! Where’s the meat?’. I’m trying to impress people here. You don’t win friends with salad.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 9:36 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

    • #127.1   ME

      you don’t win friends with salad! you don’t win friends with salad!

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:21 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #127.2   Catt of the Garage

      I chuffing well impressed myself today with my honey-fried mushrooms in onion gravy. And I’m not even a vegetarian!

      Jul 7, 2011 at 3:59 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #127.3   lagne

      Honey-fried mushrooms? Oh please please please share a recipe/method?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 6:36 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #128   Ashley

    Damn it! I’m a vegetarian and couldn’t give crap what other people eat. I hate people like this because they give the rest of us a bad name! My husband is a dye in the wool carnivore as is the rest of the family. When I went veggie, I made it very clear that it was my personal choice and I did not expect anyone to change their diet because of me.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 9:37 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #129   Ella Jay

    the last time that humankind was supposed to only eat vegetables was when we couldn’t catch anything faster. and then for a long, long time we caught and ate less fast and/or less smart animals. a long, long time.

    being a vegan is like saying ‘i am a cave person. with a small club.’

    Jul 6, 2011 at 9:37 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #129.1   oi

      What? are you trying to compete with note writer here? Let me tell you, you were very good but not good enough, Try harder.

      Jul 6, 2011 at 11:05 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #129.2   AuntyBron

      “Vegetarian” is old Indian word. It means “Bad Hunter”.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:41 am   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #130   Elizabeth

    Wow, seriously giving vegans an awful name. I’d never judge someone for their eating habits. If she has that big of an issue with it, MOVE OUT. What a sanctimonious, self-righteous buttface.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 9:43 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #131   nic

    I am a vegetarian currently and have been vegan in the past but had to stop as it was bad for my health, so this is coming from that point of view. Okay, your room mate is a total asshat. The thing is that people should put whatever the fuck they feel like into their bodies IT IS THEIR BODY, you know? She can get her nutrition how she wants to and you can get your nutrition the way you want to, no big fucking deal. The problem is that a lot of vegans feel the need to convert people. They’re like super hardcore Christians that way. They want you to see the light (shining out of their own ass, of course) so that you too can be a vegan. This is utter bullshit. You don’t want to be a fucking vegan and you want to eat the diet you chose for yourself, and she also doesn’t have to eat any goddamn slim jims. (You know, I am preaching to the choir here.) If I were you, I would tell her all of this.
    But I felt the need to say that not ALL vegans think the sun shines out of their ass. Some of ‘em just want to be vegan for whatever reason (health, ethics, religion) and they are fine chilling out being vegan without disrupting any one else’s chilling out being an omnivore. And they don’t think that they are better than anyone. So I think it’s important to acknowledge that these vegans do exist (although they are not as common as I’d like them to be) and I also feel it is important to acknowledge that you should give a self-righteous vegan a swift kick right off that self-proclaimed pedestal of theirs.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 9:47 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

    • #131.1   Scott

      Every group of people has their annoying few that makes the rest look bad.

      Like recently, the snooty holier-than-thou gay people from “Cali” who thinks they represent all gay people across the country (I call them “San Fran Sissies” and “Hollyweirdo’s”) wouldn’t shut the fuck up about Tracy Morgan. As if he owes THEM an apology! LOL The only person he owes one to is his son for making that threat. They done the same thing with a black male actor from one of those medical TV shows a few years ago.

      It goes to show what little balls they have because the GLBT community receives threats from “christians” every day and they have nothing to say about them. Those guys have the potential to be dangerous and that’s too much of a challenge for them. You don’t want them to break a nail paid for by Human Rights Campaign donations, do you?

      And I certainly don’t want freaks like those guys representing me. The men look like women, the women look like men. And as hard as they all try to look cute and “trendy”, they’re the ugliest the international gay community has to offer.

      And many of them are vegans, big surprise! LOL

      Jul 6, 2011 at 10:34 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.2   Catt of the Garage

      I’d like to be the first to say that I have no idea what you are talking about.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 4:04 pm   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.3   Canthz_B bang

      I think Scott is railing against extremist zealots taking over movements, or at least media attention of movements, when they happen to be the vocal few and not the true face of the given community at large.
      Kinda like the Tea Party has basically co-opted the Libertarian Party by jerking so far to the right making themselves a laughingstock to people with brains in their heads and any knowledge of civics, history and government.

      Seemed pretty clear, even if some personal shit got in the way.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 3:31 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.4   Divvitar

      Heh, CB, the Tea Party (or Douchebaggers, as I like to call them) haven’t just hijacked the Libertarian party–they WERE the Libertarian Party–until nonsense became politically chic in the GOP. One of the Koch brothers was the V.P. candidate with Lynden LaRouche back in the ’90′s.

      Jul 11, 2011 at 12:53 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #131.5   Canthz_B bang

      Very true. I should have said they hijacked the lilly-livered GOP which now can’t even find the guts to find its own conservatives conservative enough for much of their rank and file.

      Kinda gives me a smile inside, seeing as how just 20 years ago the big question was “Is the Democratic Party dead?”

      Jul 11, 2011 at 4:05 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #132   DLW

    OMG. I’m vegetarian and I want to slap the shit out of this note writer. What a douche. Sounds like the vegan needs to live alone.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 9:49 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #133   Crazymissdaisy

    What a twat

    Jul 6, 2011 at 9:57 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #134   lis

    The best part of this note of the first paragraph. She uses 300 words to basically say: “My passive aggressiveness is totally NOT working, so I’ve got no other option than to just go PSYCHO!”

    Jul 6, 2011 at 10:02 pm   rating: 38  small thumbs up

     
  • #135   Buck

    I’d make a note using strips of bacon that read: “Get your crazy ass out of the house, bitch!”

    Jul 6, 2011 at 10:07 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #136   mita

    based on my short-lived adventures with a raw food/vegan diet, i can only conclude that this lunatic isn’t getting enough calories and the constant starvation is causing her to have psychotic tendencies. i don’t know how people can live day to day on these diets, but i sure do get why they’re such angry little people. of course, if your only exercise consists of perusing the racks at your neighborhood urban outfitters for ironic t-shirts and floppy knit hats, i guess you’re okay eating 120 calories a meal…. but as someone trying to log 35 miles a week on the pavement and train for a triathlon, there was just no way to pack in all the calories i needed each day. besides, who wants to eat kale and sprouted whole grain bread and veganaise and cheeze when you can have a big bloody steak and a baked potato loaded with cheesy, sour creamy goodness?

    Jul 6, 2011 at 10:35 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

     
  • #137   Anna

    I’m a vegan myself, but hate vegans like this one, they give us a bad name. Some of the comments in this post are really ridiculous though. “She needs to eat a bacon cheeseburger and STFU!”. Really?

    Jul 6, 2011 at 10:52 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

    • #137.1   Clumber

      Anna – it is a normal “like with like” response. “She’s going to demand *I* change… well screw her, she can change!” Most comments in that ilk, including my own, are a reflection back of the LW’s douchebaggery. The psycho militant tone of LW rather begs for the equal reaction back, you don’t agree? What the reactionary carnivores are suggesting is no different than what LW is.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:31 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #137.2   Catt of the Garage

      You can’t fight fire with fire.

      Just because it’s a cliche doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 4:06 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #137.3   Clumber

      Well actually, I was a forest fire fighter with the feds and you absolutely CAN fight fire with fire. We did it all the time. Burn the flammables up under control before the wildfire gets there.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 12:34 am   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #137.4   pony girl

      @Clumber,

      Now I have a crush!

      ;)

      Jul 9, 2011 at 12:57 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #138   Chris of Seattle

    It’s not cannibalism if we eat vegans, right?

    Jul 6, 2011 at 11:04 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #139   anonymous

    i would love to see her reaction to the labor day tradition we have of grilling 90 pounds of ribs

    Jul 6, 2011 at 11:11 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #140   andi*pandi

    I thought the first page was bad enough, but then, page 2? Criminy.

    Claim that fridge in the name of carnivore, she can keep her greens in a dorm fridge in her room.

    Or just get the heck out of crazytown.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 11:11 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #141   Neil

    Obviously someone has to move out, you can’t live with someone so fundamentally opposed to everything you are. Whoever’s name is on the lease has to tell the other person to go; end of story.

    But I need to add that this is pretty atypical behaviour from a vegetarian. I’ve known a couple of dozen serious vegetarians over the years, including a handful of really serious vegans… and not one of them would be capable of writing a letter like that. Usually, people who are enlightened enough to make serious commitments to something like veganism are also enlightened enough to understand how offensive it can be to crusade against the diets of people you live with. I’ve seen vegans get upset because some idiot has deliberately tricked them into eating some sort of animal product, but I’ve never seen one be so militant about the mere *presence* of meat in a house that they share.

    I think most vegans would join the queue to punch this person in the face; she makes all vegans look bad and needs some corrective therapy. And to live alone.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 11:20 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #142   Paige

    As a nearly-vegan vegetarian myself (how do you tell if there’s a vegetarian in the room? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you), I think note-writer is indeed insufferable, and totally in the wrong. Submitter has the right to buy and eat whatever she wants to in her own home, for which (I assume) she pays an equal share of the rent. Vegan can GTFO if it bothers her. Classic “If you don’t like it, leave” situation.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 11:30 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

     
  • #143   FLZ

    I need to send you a hog carcass. What’s your address? ;)

    Jul 6, 2011 at 11:31 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #144   Sarah Kay

    What do vegans say about the fact that some animals eat other animals? Some animals steal the produce of other animals. It’s part of nature.

    This letter made me puke.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 11:32 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #145   Ishie

    I lived in Brooklyn for two years. Much love. It is virtually impossible to evict someone even if they have the lease, ownership, or whatever. Once you can prove you’ve lived there, you’re golden. If there’s no “anti meat” clause in the lease, tell her to suck it, and you’ll leave when the cops force you out.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 11:36 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

     
  • #146   Diana

    I’d laugh, throw it away and buy more meat. And make a barbecue party. And I’d invite the neighbor that abuses his child.

    Jul 6, 2011 at 11:50 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #147   ET

    Wow. Just wow. I’m an omnivore currently living with two veggies and we’re moving in with a pescatarian next month. We haven’t had any altercations about our varied diet choices…I keep my animal products out of her food and other than the once or twice that I tried it, she doesn’t try to get me to eat her soy crap. Unless you’re as obviously intolerant as this bitch is, it’s really not that difficult to live with a veggie or vegan, or vice versa.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 12:04 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #147.1   *snerk*

      At least you know your roommates won’t steal your food, right?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:09 am   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #148   Kate

    If I were the OP I would hide eggs in her room and let ‘em rot.

    Without the vegans knowledge of course >:)

    Jul 7, 2011 at 12:09 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #149   friendly vegan

    I am a vegan. We are not all like this.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 12:13 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #149.1   VerityBrown bang

      Probably so, but enough are to have given vegetarians/vegans a really bad rep. Maybe if their fellow vegetarians would actually SPEAK UP when they see one being a douchebag in r/l, the omnivores present in the situation might get a more accurate impression. But hey, it’s hard to stand up against someone with your own philosophies, right? No matter what impression it creates.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:09 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #150   Eat my meat

    If I was the roommate of this food Nazi, I’d go buy some meat, season and tenderize then hang it all over the apartment to dry out. Tell her, “I’m making beef jerky, get used to it. ” “It’s my new second job.” that would teach her. Then I’d throw it out, I hate beef jerky.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 12:19 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #151   imashelcha

    Two words: horse’s head.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 12:34 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #152   Hippietown Dweller

    Google passive aggressive vegan grocery cashier. Click on the first hit. Enjoy.

    But the one here — the real one — is scarier. Add my vote to those who want a follow up on this one.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 12:36 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #153   gallifreyseven

    Oh wow. Just…wow.

    Eating meat to child abuse in a couple of sentences? Why not go ahead and invoke Hitler while you’re at it?

    Here we have our prime suspect in any future sociopathic murders in Brooklyn.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 12:54 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #154   lozerette bang

    Dear roomie:
    No products from animals anywhere in the apartment, huh? (Your words, not mine.) Per your new rules, I will get rid of my meat right after you get rid of anything made from plastic or other petroleum-based products. Most of your synthetic “non-animal” replacements contain these substances in some form, so good luck with that.

    First things first, stop brushing your teeth with dead dinosaurs, you sicko.

    Short list of some other things you will almost certainly have to throw out:
    The Pen You Used to Write Your Note
    Any Other Pens
    The Carpet
    Any Hardwood Flooring that is Varnished or Waxed
    Linoleum
    Any Non-Plant Fabric (Clothing, Furniture, etc.)
    The Plastic Containers for Storing Your Vegan Food
    Refrigerator
    Microwave
    Any Electronics
    Hair Dryer
    Hair Brush
    Plastic Razors
    Deodorant (If in a plastic container.)
    …I think you get the drift.

    The alternative is that you just pull the (wooden, right?) stick out of your ass and we learn to get along like civilized people. Your call.

    Sincerely,
    The Sane One

    Jul 7, 2011 at 1:14 am   rating: 24  small thumbs up

    • #154.1   snatchbeast

      Actually, you can find most of these items in a cruelty-free vegan form. They’re a bit more expensive, but it’s entirely doable.

      Many plastics are made from corn now, most health and beauty products don’t actually need animal byproducts (toothpaste, deodorant, hairbrush, razors), and many shoes/sneakers are also now made with non-animal adhesive.

      Not saying the vegan roommate is in any way right… Just saying =)

      Jul 7, 2011 at 1:28 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #154.2   lozerette bang

      They’re in an apartment, so I’m betting at least the appliances and flooring were provided by the complex, and are therefore the cheaper, dead-dinosaur kind.

      Also, *most* people don’t really think about petroleum-based products as animal products. I’d be willing to bet crazy-roomie never really thought about it and/or considers them ok due to humans not killing off the dinosaurs (as far as we know). I know it’s possible to be total 100% vegan. It’s just not probable that crazy-roomie is, given her apparent inability to think outside of her box.

      I would like to state that I have absolutely no problem with vegetarians/vegans. In my opinion. crazy-roomie opened herself up for evil-ness with her sudden “no animal products at all EVER, even for anyone else!” attitude.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 2:07 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #154.3   vee

      Most corn crops are fertilized with nitrogen fertilizers derived from petroleum.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 2:00 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #154.4   Victoria

      @lozerette! GENIUS!!! Took me 3 times to read that cuz I kept laughing at everything you wrote!

      Jul 10, 2011 at 10:07 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #155   snatchbeast

    It’d be different if she moved in with these stipulations in advance, but screw her for her judgmental and nasty attitude.

    As a vegan, I hate vegans like this.

    I can get behind separate shelves in the refrigerator, separate plates and silverware, etc for vegan vs omni items, but outright banning one roommates food source is just uncool.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 1:24 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #155.1   Denise

      I find there are more vegans like yourself than this lunatic. Unfortunately it’s the lunatics that make the lasting impression.
      As many people have said, for some people veganisim is more about some moral purity…or religion like way of life. While it’s only some…it’s a very vocal group. It’s why other people have such a disinterest in it.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:49 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #156   Fannyaddams

    As a vegan living with 3 omnivores I can only say WTF???
    Possibly the only sensible solution is to replace her wardrobe with a lady gaga-esque meat closet(!)

    Jul 7, 2011 at 1:27 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #157   CS

    Where is the update??? I read all 32457107 comments because I must know.

    Incidentally, I was ovo-lacto vegetarian for 6 years. My boyfriend through most of that ate meat. *Most* of the meals I cooked us were vegetarian, but I occasionally cooked him meat, and he could always cook meat if he wanted to. At restaurants? Eat your meat rare, babe! It’s all good!

    Then we would make out and have hot inter-dietary-choice sex. It was great.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 1:37 am   rating: 20  small thumbs up

     
  • #158   CS

    Oh, and, apparently the President of PETA has diabetes. Diabetes is treated with insulin. Insulin treatment for diabetes was developed via animal testing. Just in case anyone wanted to mock PETA more.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 1:39 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #158.1   Val

      Synthetic non-animal based insulin has been around for 30 years. Do some research.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 5:56 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #158.2   Nunavut Guy

      C.S said “developed”.Do some reading.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 6:42 am   rating: 24  small thumbs up

       
    • #158.3   CS

      Thanks, Nunavut! Reading comprehension is sexy! Almost as sexy as a rare shank of lamb! Rawr!

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:43 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #159   jadefirefly

    One of my previous roommates was vegetarian. Amazingly, her food co-existed in the same refrigerator as the fish and chicken my other roomie bought at the chinese market, and the eggs and sausage I bought for myself.

    At no point did her head explode, her health suffer, or a complaint even come out of her mouth. She understood that we weren’t expected to live by her dietary choices. To that end she even kept her own cooking pans, so she wouldn’t use a frypan that someone else used for meat.

    Unless vegan-bitch is paying the rent AND buying ALL the food, she has no claim to dictate what roomie has in the apartment she pays for.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 1:42 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #159.1   quat

      How could this be, Jadefirefly? Surely sitting NEXT to chicken in the SAME refrigerator caused her tofu to become nauseating and just totally untouchable. Or did she actually have a functioning brain? LOL. (I am a lapsed veggie myself, and can’t believe this bullshit.)

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:05 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #160   Emily

    I can’t believe she used the line, “I’m truly disturbed by your lack of respect for my feelings.” What about the person to whom she wrote the note? She certainly has to respect for the addressee’s feelings!

    I would have slapped her silly.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 2:09 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

     
  • #161   Juniper

    I’m going to need an update on this one please. I really need to know that sometime has kicked this person in the teeth, metaphorically or literally.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 3:03 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #162   Ben

    Letter recipient clearly needs to invite Epic Meal Time round to film a special episode in their kitchen…

    Jul 7, 2011 at 3:28 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #163   jetjackson

    Time to wear the lady gaga meat dress home!!

    Jul 7, 2011 at 3:41 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #164   Grant

    (1) Write a reply, simply “Move the f*** out then” and
    (2) Bacon. Lots and lots of frying bacon.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 4:04 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #165   Grant

    Also, I take it she doesn’t swallow.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 4:05 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #165.1   Cat

      Really? Why go there?

      Jul 8, 2011 at 2:50 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #166   Marcel

    This is no matter being vegan or not. This is a personal problem. Your flatmate is obviously using the whole vegan idea for distancing herself from other people. This happens all the time. It doesn’t matter if it’s religion, nature, the way you eat or even personal hygiene. Often they do it because they want to reach some moral high ground because they are feeling left alone and not understood at all by the world. Look at any kind of scene a little closer and you will see what I mean.

    I’d just tell her that you’re respecting her way to live and eat (if you really do that that is) and that she should respect yours. That the letter was a passive aggressive and utterly unneccessary form of letting you know how she feels. If you two are not compatible at all and/or cannot reach some sort of agreement, so be it. There are times when the best course of action is to part with people.

    It’s “live and let live”. There is no final, conclusive truth and every person has to find it’s own way – how to live, how to feel, how to be.

    Again, this is not about veganism. You could exchange the “veganism” with “christianism” and the food with the discussion about creationism vs. evolution and you’ll get the same result. People who are taking things to their extreme and claim to have found the “true truth” for whatever reason are toxic to a liberal society. And they piss people off on a grand scale.

    There is absolutely no sane way to discuss rationally about feelings. However, you can show compassion and empathy for the motives of these people and try to find a way that works for both. If that does not work, you need to leave (resp. she needs to).

    Jul 7, 2011 at 5:11 am   rating: 32  small thumbs up

    • #166.1   Someone

      I thought this was a very wise thing to say. I agree, I have dealt with people like this and usually those that go to this extreme are trying to distance themselves from people in many ways, not just one. Chances are this person has shown other signs of this. They are searching for superiority, it’s a sign of low self-esteem to do this, especially if they vacillate from cause to cause trying to one-up others. Being vegan for four months is one example.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 7:08 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #166.2   Amanda

      I was thinking something along the same lines. The problem isn’t her veganism, but some mental health issue. She is a fanatic. She could just as easily have chosen Christianity or environmentalism as her cause and written a nasty note about the roommate’s “sinful ways” or “wastefulness.” In any case, the submitter will probably be better off just removing herself from the situation rather than trying to reason with this person.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:30 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #167   laurajane

    it’s terrifying how much this reminds me of my ex-housemate. not the vegan thing, just the entitlement issues.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 5:14 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #168   Annette

    I love how she tells her roommate to respect her believes and be considerate while in their home but at the same time just plainly forbids her to eat meat there.

    Yes, my dear. I’m all for freemdom of speech. As long as you only say what I want to hear, that is.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 5:31 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

     
  • #169   H

    Less kf the veggie bashing please im vegetarian & share with2meat eaters. We keep some pans separate & it’s not an issue.
    The note writer seems really stressed & unhappy with the vegan martyrdom (seen it happen do many times) if she can’t talk about her needs/wants openly or compromise its Probably better she lives with vegans, especially if she us so badly affected.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 6:12 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #169.1   The Elf

      Please tell me that the lack of meat in your diet is unrelated to the lack of capitalization, spacing, and punctuation in your post. I really want to believe that.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:43 am   rating: 23  small thumbs up

       
    • #169.2   Kaisha

      Well, I’m a veggie too – have been since birth. I don’t think it has horrendously affected my spelling…

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:41 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #170   Jen

    To all the people who suggested putting meat/eggs or milk in the note writers food, I hope you were joking.

    While it might be pleasing on a PA level, in the end you could seriously put someone’s health in danger.

    No doubt this letter was so far out of line it skipped several state lines, but some people are vegans/vegetarians due to severe allergies and intolerences and “spiking” their food to get back at them would be just as irresponsible and possibly deadly as feeding someone with a nut allergy nuts.

    There’s no excuse for bad behaviour like this, but accidentally killing someone for “laughs” isn’t funny.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 6:47 am   rating: 21  small thumbs up

    • #170.1   gnomestress bang

      While I’m all for being careful about food allergies (my aunt died when I was very young because she ate food cross contaminated with fish and my entire family has serious food allergies) if you read the background on the note writer, it’s mentioned that she was previously lacto ovo – so odds are she’s not allergic to eggs and milk.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:40 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #171   Andy

    She should kill her vegan roommate now. Dated one for about 6 weeks – ended in a screaming match in the Village when he couldn’t pick a $&#^#^ restaurant that met his approval for the 6 millionth time. Never. Again.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 7:16 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #171.1   Rattus

      That is the main reason why my husband and I don’t eat out much. As far as he’s concerned, it must sell beer and it must have a semi-decent vegetarian menu. As far as I’m concerned, all it must have is the lack of the odour of the city dump, but still, can we find a restaurant? Oh no, they rarely meet his exacting standards. That’s why you’ll often find me sitting on the fucking kerb snarfing down the contents of a tube of Pringles while he peruses every bit of paper posted in the window of every restaurant in a three block radius.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:45 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #172   ObviousCommenter

    I just can’t get over the fact that (at the bottom of the first page) the writer compares eating meat to child abuse!

    Jul 7, 2011 at 8:13 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #173   AC

    I’m stunned. Like religious people she feels the need to push her lifestyle and beliefs on other people. If she doesnt like the fact that the other roomie eats meat products she can move the hell out.

    Humans are a omnivore species, stop crying over the fact that we eat meat products like we are supposed to you idiot

    Jul 7, 2011 at 8:19 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

     
  • #174   Mikey

    Live & let live I say.

    But remember this. Civilisation will one day come to an end. I’ve read ‘The Road’. I know how it works.

    And we’ll be eating the vegans first. They’re more wholesome.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 8:22 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #174.1   gnomestress bang

      You’re going to want to supplement those vegans with the occasional omnivore – the vegans will probably be vitamin deficient.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:35 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #174.2   Rattus

      Plus their meat is leaner and less gamy tasting. Mmmm, now I got me a hankerin’ for a nice terrine of vegan tartare with a side of mango relish, some lightly steamed asparagus and a dollop of rice pilaf.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:38 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #175   Cliff Poncier

    I went to Catholic school from 2nd through 5th grade and since I had a big family my mother would let us make our own lunches. During Lent I would be the only kid in class eating a ham & cheese sandwich on Fridays. Even at 9 years old I didn’t give two sh1ts.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 8:40 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

     
  • #176   This or That

    Dear Roommate,
    I have a bone to pick with you. I got your note and you are such a chicken not to talk to me face to face. It just seems so fishy that you would choose to confront me on paper rather than in person. I have a real beef with you over that. You’re such a pig. Honey, if you really have such a problem with my eating habits, you’re going to have to find a way to deal with it like an adult without clamming up and retreating into your shell.
    Love,
    Roommate

    Jul 7, 2011 at 8:46 am   rating: 66  small thumbs up

    • #176.1   Canthz_B bang

      Um, I don’t think bone-picking together will work this time. LOL

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:12 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #177   Kick

    Decent courses of action to take:
    a. Kick the bitch in the head
    b. Kick the bitch out of the house (if it’s not hers)
    c. Move from the house (if it’s hers)
    d. Leave meat to rot in the fridge
    e. Any valid combination of the above (b and c don’t mix)

    Jul 7, 2011 at 8:52 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #178   Ellen

    As a vegan… I particularly want to slap the author if this note. I have a can of condensed milk in my kitchen from “before” that I have not been able to either consume or waste. That is all.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 9:40 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #178.1   knittykat

      why don’t you donate that can to a food pantry?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:04 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #178.2   Catt of the Garage

      I’ll take it off your hands! Mmmm, condensed miiilk…

      Don’t you have any sweet-toothed non-vegan friends you could give it away to? They could make bannoffee pie.

      Mmmm, bannoffee pieeee…

      Jul 7, 2011 at 4:26 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #179   Yolanda

    I’ve had to deal with these horrible preachers far too often. They think that because they’re championing the cause of helpless voiceless animals that it justifies all manner of abusive control behaviour. I don’t eat dead mammals. I do find the eating of them extremely offensive. I won’t tolerate the cooking of mammal meat in my kitchen. Hubby can bbq steak, reheat canned chili or frozen meat dinners, or eat snack food like pepperoni (yech) but that’s it! I always made it clear to roommates that much and did not change the rules mid-stream either. If they didn’t like it, we didn’t live together. It’s MY choice, and just as I won’t let someone else tell me what to eat, I dont’ tell you.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 9:49 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #179.1   Rattus

      If my vegetarian husband attempted to enforce such rules with me, I’m afraid that I might have to give up my tolerance for things that I can’t stand the smell of and forbid the preparation of the following substances in my kitchen: toast (that’s right – I can’t stand the smell of toast), coffee, parsnips, omelets (or any egg dishes really), brussel sprouts and anything fried.

      I would also have to insist that he shut down his home brewery because I can’t stand the smell of fermenting…whatever the hell is going on down there, and as a non-beer drinker, I find drunkenness offensive and won’t tolerate it in my home.

      /scarcasm (apparently some readers don’t recognize the presence of sarcasm with a qualifier of some sort).

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:02 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #179.2   Languagegeek

      Sarcasm needs its own font. At work, I have designated “Chiller” as my sarcasm font. And I used it today to express how pleased I was to receive an exciting new assignment dealing with an irate consumer.

      Fingers crossed!

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:16 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #179.3   VerityBrown bang

      Wow, the irony of Yolanda’s cluelessness is just…wow.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:21 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #180   Canthz_B bang

    #2 is far too long. Should have stopped at “I’m truly disturbed.”

    Jul 7, 2011 at 9:57 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

     
  • #181   Bob

    What a piece of meat… I mean work… I mean meat. Mmm, meat.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:01 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #182   Linda

    W.O.W 8-0

    Ok……sounds like she wants to go “tit-for-tat”…..so here it is “roomie”…..You won’t eat meat….just veggies, and some “vegan” diet…..interesting……I hate to inform you, but you ARE, in fact, eating animals by proxy……what do you think helps in the fertalization of our lands????? Animal poop…..dead animal carcasses…..are you picturing that dead bird, laying in the patch of carrots, rotting into the root system, as you’re munching on your “healthy” snack??????? What about the worms underground???? Or hedgehog…whatever…..you get my point…….unless you starve yourself……you will NEVER be trully vegetarian….or vegan, for that matter, because EVERYTHING that comes from this earth, food and otherwise, has some part of animal within it…..it’s the circle of life….and who is she to judge anyone for what the good Lord has saw fit to provide us with nourishment???? I wonder if she would think if everyone turned “vegan”, or whatever….animal overpopulation???? They wander into her garden…..eating her “stash”……I bet if that happened enough, she’d be having steak for dinner!!!!! Self-rightious hypocrite………

    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:01 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #183   Canthz_B bang

    Well, thank God someone saw fit to eat meat 1.5 million years ago or we wouldn’t be here with our large brains to have this debate!

    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:10 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

     
  • #184   Tara

    I will bet $100 that this crazy vegan was wearing leather shoes as she wrote this note.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:18 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #185   emcd

    Meat didn’t like her anyway, so there.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:30 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #186   meeper

    I think we’re all missing the true meaning of the letter here. Reading between the lines tells me that what she’s really saying isn’t that she wants the roommate to be courteous about having meat, etc. in the house, but that she is being tempted by all the non-vegan food in the household and would even stoop to sneaking into the roommate’s room to lick honey off of the bedpost if she knew it was there.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:34 am   rating: 26  small thumbs up

     
  • #187   fayegasm

    People treat me like I’m like the note-writer when I ask them not to eat beef or pork while I’m present at home. I only ask because I was raised not to eat either, and the smell makes me feel sick, and if accidentally ingested, I’m in bed clutching my stomach all day.

    Otherwise, I couldn’t care less about other people’s diets. I don’t care if you eat a panda. I don’t care if you go to buffets and load 3 plates full of bacon.

    I think I’m a pretty reasonable pollo-pesco-ovo-lacto vegetarian. (Thank you random chart from middle school Home Ec.)

    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:35 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #187.1   CS

      so… you’re a “vegetarian” that eats chicken and fish? Um… yeah, so you realize that makes you NOT a vegetarian right? (The whole “eating animal flesh” thing is pretty much a no-no in the vegetarian world.) If you just ate fish, you’d be a pescatarian, (sp?), for example, but eating ANIMALS makes you automatically NOT vegetarian.

      Semantics, I know, but I’ve always thought it ridiculous to claim “vegetarianism” when…. you eat the delicious, delicious flesh of the dead.

      Also, if you don’t like living with people who eat pork or bacon, you should probably make the effort to live with like-minded people, or alone.

      In my apartment, that I share, I’ll cook what I want. (I wouldn’t slip you bacon, though. That shit is too delicious to waste.)

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:52 am   rating: 31  small thumbs up

       
    • #187.2   The Elf

      “Vegetarian” is a catch-all more than an actual definition. Some people cut out only red meat, some people go full on raw food vegan.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:57 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #187.3   The Elf

      And FWIW, if they also live there then you are smokin’ crack if you think it is reasonable to ask them not to eat beef or pork while you are around. That’s a little different from asking them to smoke on the porch! Best to get different roommates, ones that are more in line with your own dietary preferences. However, if it is your place and they are guests, then by all means put down the foot.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:00 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #187.4   Rattus

      To reinforce what others are telling you, if you eat anything that once had a face, you are not, repeat not, a vegetarian. I don’t know how many fucking idiots have tried to feed my genuinely vegetarian husband fish over the years and it is getting really fucking tiresome explaining just what a vegetarian is.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:10 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #187.5   gnomestress bang

      Sorry but you kind of sound like a douche.
      I dislike the smell of most indian food. That doesn’t give me the right to keep my coworkers from reheating a samosa in the microwave. I’m an adult and I +gasp!+ deal with it.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 12:30 pm   rating: 37  small thumbs up

       
    • #187.6   VerityBrown bang

      Hmmm, fayegasm, maybe people treat you like the notewriter because you’re trying to control their food options? If the very smell of beef and pork makes you ill, perhaps it would be better to find a living situation where those items aren’t even in the house instead of making demands about what your roomies can and can’t eat. You need to take some responsibility for your own situation (in some way that doesn’t include forcing other people to cater to your needs).

      No, you are not a reasonable anything-vegetarian. Sounds like you’re not even a vegetarian, just someone who doesn’t cope well with beef or pork. But the point is that it’s not reasonable to expect others to change their eating behavior to suit your comfort.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:36 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #188   gozar

    Make sure she sees this:
    http://tinyurl.com/3edet7y

    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:44 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #189   thelma

    I’m vegan, but people like this are why I don’t have any other vegan friends. It’s not like they brought home kitten meat, for god’s sake. People are free to eat what they like, so don’t Mommy them.

    It’s people like this that also make me not tell people I’m vegan, because you get the big eyeroll and people stop talking to you.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:54 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

     
  • #190   Jeneener

    I think a big part of the problem is that ethical vegans/vegetarians (and I’m one of ‘em) seem to confuse “can’t” with “won’t”. It’s not that you can’t eat a burger, you just don’t want to. You’re not going to die if you eat a burger, it’s a personal choice.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 11:03 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

     
  • #191   Jay

    The perfect response: I am not going to change my eating habits to suit your wants. You compared apples to oranges with the eating meat and beating children comparison, and I’ll keep buying meat if I want to.

    Vegetarians READ ON!

    @thelma
    I totally agree, and I am not slamming any form of vegetarianism nor trying to offend vegetarians, I’m slamming the “mommying” that this person is trying to do.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 11:06 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #191.1   Jay

      I would like to apologize for the hateful words written in my last comment.
      Sorry everybody.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 11:12 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #192   oi

    As much as I hate this note writer I think I can see how vegans would have hard time in eating whatever they want to eat. I think for me it’s easy, being from India, they automatically assume my vegetarian diet is because of my religion. It’s not true but at least I don’t have to come up with an explanation for my choice of food for myself!
    But the people who were born here they do not have that luxury. One of my friend here is vegetarian and her family is typical american. She has told me numerous time how hard it is to be a vegetarian, her family is ok, it’s the strangers. I was very surprised and told her that my experience was totally different. Except for one or two idiots, nobody has tried to pity/laugh on me for being vegetarian and even those idiots have not told me anything to my face. For her every gathering is like torture, there is always someone who either tries to convert her back or pity her or shame or demands an explanation (because of their own guilt of eating meat I guess) as if it’s their business! I did not believe her completely, thought may be she is exaggerating a little. Reading comments here now I don’t think that she is exaggerating at all.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 11:17 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #192.1   pony girl

      I haven’t read through all of the comments, but most of them seem to be upset at the notewriter’s audacity to tell someone else what to eat.

      Personally, I am always amazed at many comments that I hear people say to others and myself. (Wow, you’re not very hungry. Wow, you must be hungry. Is that all you’re eating? Wow, that’s a big steak. Wow, that’s a lot of sour cream. You’re only eating a salad? )

      People need to mind their own dang business.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 4:20 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #192.2   VerityBrown bang

      I’m sure there are omnivores out there who are douchebags to vegetarians just because they feel like being nasty. But I suspect that in many cases, the vegetarian who is experiencing negative pressure from omnivores has previously expressed their vegetarianism in such an arrogant, I’m-superior way that they’ve made themselves a legitimate target.

      You can’t talk about your eating habits in such a way that implies (even silently and subtly) that the eating habits of others are WRONG and expect that not to provoke a reaction. Telling others that you’re a vegetarian and WHY is almost always a provocation (think about how you feel when someone starts talking about religious or political beliefs you don’t agree with; eating is even more primal). Shrugging and saying, “Meat just doesn’t agree with me” makes it sound it’s YOUR problem, not a problem with the people around you.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 12:04 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #192.3   oi

      May be you are right in most cases, as I said my experience was different than hers. Still I don’t think she is that kind of person though. We met at some party and I never knew she was vegetarian. I think it was fourth or fifth time we were out for dinner I came to know she was vegetarian.

      On unrelated note, I do think religion, sexual orientation and diets are deeply personal matters and those are nobody’s business but the person’s own. Most of my friends are carnivore and they accommodate me all the time. I don’t think they do it because I am born with halo. They do it because I accommodate them too. I don’t see people in groups as vegetarian or carnivore or Hindu or Christian or gay or straight or male or female, I think you get the idea. I see people as people.
      oh and simple saying of being vegetarian provokes somebody then I would think they have unconscious guilt about eating meat. of ocurse it depends on time and tone but people should not be expected to lie as if their personal choice is something wrong to be said out loud. If we are talking about dietary preference than I am not going to lie that I am vegetarian because meat does not agree with me. I am vegetarian. That’s is perfect and complete answer. See, that’s what my friend means, the expectation of explanation that does not offend carnivore.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 12:59 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #192.4   oi

      You got me thinking VerityBrown, I think this whole mess of vegan/vegetarian vs meat eaters would go away if people (both groups) see vegetarianism as just the personal preference instead of some greater good. At least I see it that way and I never came across this debate in real life.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 2:49 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #192.5   pony girl

      oi, I agree with most of what you are saying. and our experiences our obviously our own. Those people who hassle your friend with no provocation, are obviously tools, but I’m not so sure that it’s guilt. That strikes me as the same sort of attitude that mothers use when they speak about women without kids, saying that the childfree/less women are just jealous when they complain that they have to pick up the slack at work for the working mothers who get off early or come in late a lot because of their kids.
      Someone on here(too many posts, not going to look) said something that irked me, and it may explain why some meat-eaters get defensive with vegans/vegetarians.
      It was the assumption that being a vegan/vegetarian is enlightened.

      Now don’t get me wrong, people can do what they like. But if someone is going to tell me that they are enlightened, (and thus, I am not) for not eating meat, I am going to
      A.) think that person is a tool and
      B.) possibly tell them so.

      I don’t feel guilty about eating meat. I do, however, take issue with people who are holier than thou.

      It doesn’t sound as if you or your friend do this or act that way, though. Bummer that people can’t just let people be.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 5:58 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #192.6   pony girl

      oi,

      Yes, I have encountered similar situations. I was raised to eat what was served to me at someone else’s house. I try to, but sometimes, I just can’t. (veal, mussels and a few other things.)

      I decline as politely as possible, and sometimes people just want to make a big deal out of it. Depending on the situation I’ve claimed allergies, or issues from childhood.

      When I have people over, I offer, they say no. I say okay.
      I don’t know why people have to be so intrusive, I’ve never understood it.
      I don’t need to know why they don’t want it.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 6:04 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #192.7   oi

      I see what are you saying PG. I am not saying every single meat eaters have guilty conscious just the one who expect an explanation for being a vegetarian in terms of either religion or allergies. If you are curious why I am vegetarian I would be happy to tell you. Just I don’t like this intruding on others’ business business. Looks we are agreeing here.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 7:47 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #192.8   pony girl

      Yup. We are agreeing.

      It’s sort of like when people are asked to justify their decision to not have children, and yet, nobody ever asks parents to justify their decision to have children.

      Sort of.

      Next time I see someone ask a vegetarian to justify their eating habits, I will ask that person to justify theirs.
      ;)

      Jul 9, 2011 at 1:01 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #192.9   oi

      :)

      Jul 10, 2011 at 12:17 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #193   bookworm

    I would have prepared a steak and allowed the blood to drip on the note. Which I would leave in the exact same spot, of course.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 11:55 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #194   gnomestress bang

    I was lacto-ovo for a few years when I was younger. After I developed a serious B-vitamin deficiency, I got back on the meat train (heh heh, meat train)

    That said, even when I was vegetarian I despised PETA and its crazy militant brainwashed vegan clones. Notewriter is all to common in that community. PETA specifically targets the young and gullible and fill their heads with lies and dogma. Meanwhile, they kill 90% of the animals in their shelters. Sheer douchebaggery, at its worst.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 12:25 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #194.1   Catt of the Garage

      I’m amazed by how big an issue Vitamin B12 is with vegetarians over there! In the UK they just eat Marmite.

      Mmmm. Marmite.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 4:40 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #194.2   lownote

      Mmmm, marmite. Right, now I need some marmite on toast :)

      Jul 7, 2011 at 4:48 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #195   A

    Wow! As a vegan, I am offended by this letter! Veganism is choice that people have to make for themselves, not be bullied into it via a passive aggressive note. FAIL!

    Jul 7, 2011 at 12:53 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #196   Saar

    Lol! I am vegan, but have never done or said anything like this. :)
    People choose what they choose…
    If you want to eat meat, that’s your choice. Haha.
    Gotta say it’s very bold though.
    Gutsy chick. :)

    Jul 7, 2011 at 12:57 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #196.1   Hello There

      Anyone can write a note. I feel those who do are the least bold of all. If anything, the vegan should have approached the submitter in a civil fashion if at all to express how she felt. This might even have resulted in a friendly compromise.

      The whole thing is a FAIL and I really want to know the submitter’s response.

      WE NEED A FOLLOW UP – PLEASE!!!

      Jul 8, 2011 at 2:25 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #197   *snerk*

    Has anyone else found that all these comments about steaks, roast pig, and cheeseburgers are making you really hungry?

    I seriously went out for a roast beef sandwich for lunch today, and I never get roast beef. And boy, am I looking forward to the Italian sausage on the dinner menu tonight.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 1:39 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

     
  • #198   Frizzy

    Looks like someone needs a Fridge Locker

    Jul 7, 2011 at 2:01 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #199   So Meaty

    Wow, stupid vegan! Stop putting your beliefs on someone else! You may not eat meat, but you know what….The other has a choice on weither they want to eat meat or not.

    MEAT IS MURDER….TASTY, TASTY MURDER!

    Jul 7, 2011 at 2:09 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #200   bored@work

    I think note-writer is totally on point here. Just because you don’t agree with her beliefs doesn’t mean that she is wrong. She has a right to stand up for what she believes in and even fight for it if necessary. Someone has to make a stand or nothing will change. If you don’t have a right to exercise your beliefs in your own home, then we are lost.

    Okay, okay – jes’ kidding. So how many of you started to get wound-up while reading?

    Note-writer totally needs therapy with a side of bacon.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 2:21 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

     
  • #201   Lain

    Just in case anyone is interested in facts beyond our erroneous, enslaving and exploiting “beliefs” (passive-aggressive or not)… humans are anatomically and physiologically herbivore/frugivore and our meat and dairy (MAD) consumption is killing our beautiful planet and ALL her sentient beings: http://veganstreams.com/our-beliefs-meat-dairy-mad-eaters-facts-plant-based-diet/

    Jul 7, 2011 at 2:32 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #201.1   Wayne

      Because a vegan propaganda site is THE place for a fair and balanced opinion on the carnivore vs vegan issue, amirite?

      Jul 7, 2011 at 2:44 pm   rating: 44  small thumbs up

       
    • #201.2   lownote

      Erm, you have noticed the human dentition right? Incisors and canine teeth are not there for eating fruit and veg! It really bugs me when people erroneously state that we are not intended to eat meat, and point to our teeth to support this view. We are omnivores and our teeth are set up to support this, that is all our teeth prove. What we chose to use them to eat is however, entirely up to an individual. /end rant
      Sorry about that folks, have been having a few run ins with my nephew over the years about this one ;)

      Jul 7, 2011 at 4:44 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
    • #201.3   bookworm

      Our beliefs? Not our facts? Shoo fly.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 4:56 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #201.4   The Elf

      You’ve got a point about the environment, but you’re completely ignoring human evolution if you think we are naturally vegetarians. The dentition is a dead giveaway. The evidence collected from stone-age hunter/gatherer sites conclusively points towards an omnivorous diet. For instance, the Iceman’s stomach contained both meat and grain. Somehow I doubt his civilization was into factory farming.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 7:26 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #201.5   Ishie

      While large game is likely a newer (and delicious) development, eating grubs, insects, and small reptiles/mammals is normal for large apes with nonspecific dentition.

      Good fellow example would be the chimpanzee, which is largely frugivorous but every now and then will rip a baboon’s infant in half and share it among the others. They’re also quite adept at termite fishing.

      Though I’m sure other chimpanzees leave passive aggressive fecal smears around to protest that behavior.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 8:11 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #201.6   Divvitar

      Yeah, I’m sure this site is as fair and balanced as Fox News Network.

      Jul 11, 2011 at 1:14 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #201.7   RavenMcCoy

      Forget the teeth; herbivores tend to have eyes on the sides of their head rather than both eyes facing forward. Eyes on the sides: to look out for predators while eating crunchy bits of grass. Eyes in front: All the better to see you with, my dear. And then NOM NOM NOM.

      Seriously, we evolved as omnivores. If we were built to be herbivores, we wouldn’t sustain MASSIVE nerve damage from a B12 deficiency, which is not found in any meaningful way in plant-based foods. And I listen to doctors and nutritionists in regards to my diet, not vegan propagandists, thxk.

      Jul 12, 2011 at 10:43 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #202   anonymous001

    aaaaagh! this note is actually making me angry as I’m sitting here reading it. What a moron – she’s a total hypocrite & gives other nice non-shoving-their-beliefs-down-your-throat-vegans a bad name… please PLEASE roast her up a big fat shepard’s pie with this note baked in & force feed it to her. Seriously – if she’s got such serious issues that she can’t tolerate someone else’s groceries then she should have been more selective when advertising for a roommate.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 2:35 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #203   S

    “Congratulations, you have just converted me to Bacotarianism!”

    Jul 7, 2011 at 2:39 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #204   Meggers

    I find that the most effective reply to passive aggressive (mostly aggressive) morally preachy notes like this is simply a 2 line Q & A:

    Q: You know who agreed with you?
    A: Hitler

    Then they’ll argue the veracity of the statement, and you get to watch. So fun.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 2:56 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #205   Ella

    A good 40% of young people that are vegan are vegan because they think it makes them hip and edgy. My generation is disgusting. Remember when vegans actually had a message everyday people could respect, and PETA didn’t resort to using nudity to sell people on choosing carrots over chicken wings?

    Jul 7, 2011 at 3:01 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

    • #205.1   Ed Decatur

      And 86% of statistics are made up on the spot.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 11:56 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #206   Adriana

    I have known a lot of fat vegetarians and vegans. I’ll just say that. It’s not inherently a healthier lifestyle, especially if you’re eating potato chips and lots of sweet foods all the time.

    I’m on a low-carbohydrate diet that contains quite a bit of meat. I’ve lost a serious amount of weight and my lipids have improved. A diet rich in meat doesn’t have to be unhealthy, but if you’re breading and frying it, then it’s going to be.

    I just hate when vegans try to claim the dietary upper hand. I eat bun-less burgers three times a week with cheddar cheese and I’ve never been healthier.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 3:08 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

     
  • #207   Jackie

    She’s lucky her roomate isn’t a horror film fan. Us horror film fans, are well aware of the use of rejected parts of animals in horror films. We would know how to go to a butcher, ask for that stuff, and then place it all over their room. See how they would like that, muwahahaha! If you really wanted to be mean, let the meat rot awhile then watch as they puke from the stench.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 3:27 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #208   porky

    i’d like to meat her!!

    Jul 7, 2011 at 3:36 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #209   Rhi

    I was eating a chicken sandwich while reading this and began to enjoy it THAT MUCH more.
    Thank you for that.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 3:40 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #210   Lili

    To me this is like the laundry note.

    You don’t like to look at dead animals? Move out. You changed, she didn’t.

    That said I doubt the note-writer will in fact move out. Good luck to the submitter in finding a new place.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 3:58 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #211   Adrian

    As a vegetarian, I cringe at things like this. It makes me sad that the worst retaliation I could give is eating some cheese in front of them.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 3:58 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

     
  • #212   Sarah Ashley

    I would have immediately gone into the kitchen and started frying bacon.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 4:01 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #213   Yup I said it

    Sounds like this girl needs to get some…meat

    Jul 7, 2011 at 4:28 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #214   Scible

    The whole bee argument is stupid — it’s a symbiotic relationship, people! We provide them with a clean, safe place to live; they provide us with some of their honey. (They can relocate if they want — it’s not like they are chained to the hive.)

    If anything, MORE people should keep bees in order to bolster the struggling bee population.

    Vegans…can’t live with ‘em, and they probably taste terrible.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 5:10 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #214.1   Scott

      Like broccoli and used diapers.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:16 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #214.2   ButMadNNW

      I knew a vegan once who believed exactly that – that my dad’s bees were chained and trapped. Oy.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 1:37 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #215   Chesire Cat

    Wow so many comments. I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian and have been since I was 14. When I first became one I would hassle people about eating meat a bit but I was 14. I got over it. Now I don’t care at all what others eat. I might get grossed out if someone ate something like veal or if I saw one of those roasted whole pigs around me but I would not say anything to them about it. I just try to excuse myself in such situations.

    We are not all buttholes. I actually have cooked meat for my husband and kids. I did an okay job with chicken for not actually eating it. Its so hard to cook meat without eating it too.

    This notewriter is full of it. If you don’t want to see meat, then live with other vegans or on your own. I am the only vegetarian I know right now. So what?!

    Also the few full vegans I knew were crazy and assy about it. I am sure some aren’t, but the ones I have known were. The regular vegetarians though are pretty chill.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 5:48 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #216   Mindy

    My vegan friends must simply be exceptional people. Never once have they commented about what I eat. Never once have they complained about the food I serve (I know they are vegan, I always serve vegan dishes, as well). Heck, one of them routinely goes with me to a steak house where he gets a large spinach salad with olive oil and vinegar and a bowl of steamed veggies and rice. And I know several pescatarians and vegetarians, too. The only thing that has ever been said was to my gluten free,celiac son, and it was “it must suck not to be able to eat this bread!” and he shrugged and said “that’s ok, I get to eat bacon!” Everyone laughed and that was the end of it.

    Letter writer is an ass – and I suspect she is an ass about other things in her life, as well. Find a new place to live, term your lease, and get out. No one needs to put up with that.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 6:06 pm   rating: 25  small thumbs up

     
  • #217   anonymouse

    I am shocked, shocked, to learn eating honey is considered animal abuse.

    One wonders the roommates opinion on the death penalty.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 6:43 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #217.1   Scott

      Oh that one’s easy:

      To them, veggies are people. Humans = NOT people.

      California Raisins = REAL performers! LOL

      Jul 7, 2011 at 8:04 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #217.2   CS

      Honey is made from SLAVE BEES!

      Don’t you know anything? Jeez.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 9:56 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #217.3   Penny

      I was the submitter of this and I can tell you my roommate’s views on that issue!

      She is FOR the death penalty. She says people who are given the DP are almost always murderers who deserve to be killed.

      More interestingly, she’s also pro-choice. I know another vegetarian who is also pro-choice, however it doesn’t really conflict with her beliefs because she’s a vegetarian for environmental reasons.

      I don’t see how my roommate justifies it because she’s said multiple times that she values ALL life equally (which explains why she’s so concerned about bees), but she still has no problem with abortion. Even funnier is the fact that I’ve actually heard her say that abortion isn’t as serious as murder because the child isn’t as smart as a “full human”. I’m not sure how she can have that opinion while simultaneously believing that killing something as dumb as a chicken is on the same level as killing a human being.

      Jul 10, 2011 at 9:51 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #218   Charlie Bluefish

    I am a happy omnivore.

    Wondering if crazy Vegan chick knows how many products contain ingredients made from animals. I’m sure she would just implode.

    soap
    fabric conditioner
    jelly sweets, marshmellows
    plastic bags (plastic is mixed with animal fat)
    car tires (rubber mixed with animal fat)
    tennis racket strings
    harp strings
    fine bone china
    fireworks
    hair shampoo and conditioner
    toothpaste
    liquid hand soap
    moisturizer
    sugar (bones are used in the refining process)
    glue (such as used for book binding)
    some buttons
    some condoms
    wallpaper paste
    linoleum
    medication
    fertilisers such as blood, fish n’ bone
    and probably lots more

    On average 98% of an animal is used, virtually nothing is wasted.

    You can’t get away from it in out modern world – animals are incredibly useful. They are hidden in everyday use.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0120dx3

    Unless she goes to live in a cave and eat carrots, she’s screwed.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 6:48 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #218.1   Ben

      It’s not an issue of avoiding every single animal/animal product in the world. As you said, they’re everywhere and that’s impossible. Animal use isn’t going away completely and no vegan except the vocal, douche-y 1% expects that. Like people here are constantly joking “Oh, no, I stepped on an ant!” etc. That’s going to happen and it’s unavoidable. It’s more an issue of having a diet that you’re morally and dietarily comfortable with. If you freaked out every time you stepped on a bug or touched wallpaper, you’d be an idiot (like the note-writer). But someone can eat a diet they’re comfortable with and still be healthy and happy. It’s about changing what you can until you can live with what you can’t.

      Again, letter-writer is a bad person. I’m not a hippy. Just think both sides of this argument have been guilty of hyperbole thus far.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:31 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #219   Geek Goddess bang

    At least meat is dead when you eat it. Would somebody please think of the vegetables??!?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmK0bZl4ILM

    Jul 7, 2011 at 7:26 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #220   Guin

    I love how so many omnivores in these comments are just as zealous and preachy as the note-writer but don’t even realize it because they’re all so busy patting each other on the back.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 7:37 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

    • #220.1   VerityBrown bang

      I think it’s more a matter of “back at you,” not independent and unprovoked preachiness. Sounds like you’re in more than a little sympathy with the douchebag notewriter.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 12:14 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #220.2   Chesire Cat

      I have to say that I have been harassed for my not eating meat more than I have harassed others for eating meat so that kinda says something I guess. I have people argue and argue at me when I really didn’t care to participate about how being a vegetarian is wrong. I have people try to trick me into eating meat. I have had people lie about meat being in something. Just general assy comments made toward me. So I have to say that both sides can be asses.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 11:54 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #220.3   Divvitar

      Hey, what’s wrong with a little good-natured RIBBING among friends? :P

      Jul 11, 2011 at 1:23 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #221   Trekkmom

    The only thing I can agree with is her statement that she is “disturbed”, that she most certainly is. What a loon. If I were her roommate I’d be looking for a new place asap.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 8:02 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #222   Korla Pundit

    Does vegan know how many microbes she massacred by pressing down so hard on that piece of paper (poor tree!) with a pen? How many mites she suffocated by sitting her fat ass down to write this missive? How much dust mite poo she inhaled (exploiting helpless dust mite labor!) while she growled out the words as she wrote them? Look, even now, she’s stepping on some Air Men!

    Jul 7, 2011 at 9:18 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #223   Selphie

    haha this entry would have more than 400 comments.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:20 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #223.1   VerityBrown bang

      Eating is primal, literally. Attacking a person’s food choices is worse than attacking their religion or their politics.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 12:16 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #224   Ben

    This note gives us a bad name. I’m a vegan because that’s how I want to eat. I’m not comfortable with the condition of the living space, food, drugs, etc of the animals bred for these purposes. That’s my own feeling. Eat whatever you want. If you know where your food comes from and you have no problem with it, then eat whatever you want. It’s the clichéd, vocal 1% of vegan douchebags that give them a bad name.

    I’ve never been at a party and complained about the lack of stuff I can eat. It was my decision to have this diet, so I’ll eat my plate of green beans. I don’t get mad at people eating meat. The only time I even bring up my diet is when someone says the diet is unhealthy or doesn’t provide protein (cue me listing 10-20 protein rich foods I eat all the time), or when someone says that it’s crazy not to eat x, y, or z (cue me describing the extensive research I did before coming to my decision, purposely leaving out gory details in favor of less bombastic facts). That conversation comes up once or twice a year.

    I don’t care what you eat as long as you don’t assume I’m crazy and you’re sane because of what you eat.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:26 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

    • #224.1   Ben

      Oh, and vegans that don’t eat honey are a small and laughable percentage of vegans.

      Jul 7, 2011 at 10:33 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #225   Alyssa

    I follow a mostly vegan diet and share my recipes and food with others to encourage people to give it a try, but this letter from this newly vegan chick has me seeing red. Assholes like her just set veganism back 2,000 light years and help to uphold negative stereotypes. She should be ashamed.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 10:45 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #226   DL

    The Omnivore should cook up a Turducken. Her vegan roommate wouldn’t stay in an apartment where a turkey stuffed with duck (who is stuffed with chicken) had been served. End of story.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 11:08 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #227   Jay

    Yeah, what a jerk. I was vegan for a few years and was NEVER like that. Most of them are pricks. I think it’s lack of B vitamins and Omega’s that rots their brain and turns them into huge a-holes.

    Seriously though, lacking those nutrients can cause/trigger mood disorders.

    Jul 7, 2011 at 11:46 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #228   Becca

    I EAT VEGANS FOR BREAKFAST

    Jul 8, 2011 at 12:13 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #229   Lucie

    Dear Vegan roommate,

    You’re NOT MY MOM. I’ll eat what I want thank you very much. kthanxbai

    Jul 8, 2011 at 2:13 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #230   Mrs.Beasley bang

    Jesus H. Christ on a cracker, what mad narrative is this?? Praise the Lord and pass the Xanax!

    Jul 8, 2011 at 4:01 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #231   bl00per

    You want me to be a vegan, you’d better explain to me why there are so many carnivorous and omnivorous species other than humans. And as for the living conditions of animals bred for food, I know they can be appalling. I’m careful about where I get my meat from for this reason. Wanting the animals to live a good life is all well and good, but I’m only going to go as far as ensuring they’re comfortable until they meet the delicious, meaty death that most of them would inevitably face against predators in the wild anyway. Nature provides, I consume. In the most thoughtful way possible, of course >=)

    Jul 8, 2011 at 6:56 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #231.1   coldcut

      To be fair, humans can choose their actions. If we wanted to live off animal urges alone, nobody would live in a civilized society. And meat isn’t provided by nature. It is muscles and tendons which are provided to give locomotion to animals. It is animals which evolved to eat that, and there is more then enough room to ask whether or not we require that in our diet.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 11:52 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #231.2   dp

      If god didn’t want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?

      Jul 8, 2011 at 5:23 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #231.3   Anon

      Agree w/ coldcut – animals are driven to eat meat because they’re biologically programmed to do so. They don’t have the mental capacity to rationally choose to be non-carnivores. Humans have moral/ethical thought systems and can rationally reflect about whether or not it’s right and just to take the life of another sentient being because one enjoys the taste of its body.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 2:44 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #231.4   The Elf

      It’s not just reasoning capability, it’s technology. Modern living makes it easier to be a vegetarian or vegan because, with a little thought, one can get everything one needs without resorting to animal flesh or animal products.

      So, yeah, the omnivorous non-human animal, like a bear, will eat whatever they can when the opportunity arises. The naturally omnivorous human animal has the option of choosing.

      As for me, I’ve considered vegetarianism (the egg & milk version, for reasons of taste and health not ethics), but I don’t want to give up the few meats I do enjoy. So I make the choice to mostly avoid meat but to indulge when I want to indulge. Why not?

      Jul 9, 2011 at 9:05 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #232   Dr Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

    It’s the whole “I won’t allow these kinds of foods in our house” thing that gets me. If she’s (this can only be a woman) that uncomfortable, she should move out and go and live with her own kind where she can be happy.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 7:26 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #232.1   emcd

      We could designate a land area where such vegans can go and raise foodstuffs free from the impingment of meat juices and other “contaminants”. LW could have a one way ticket to free range veganism – yay!

      Jul 8, 2011 at 7:58 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #233   Jimi

    This note did nothing but make me angry. Seriously, who are you to tell me what i can eat. F*!# off, and go eat your plants.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 8:16 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #234   Boiing

    I’d put a beehive in the chick’s room, tell her how sweet her note was and ask her if she’d like a blood sausage for supper.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 9:49 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #235   speachless

    I don’t even know where to start! This chick is C-R-A-Z-Y! What gives her the right to dictate what her roommate, who pays half the bills, brings into the house or puts in his body? Time for a new living arrangement before she superglues his mouth closed in the middle of the night as a protest against his obviously heathen meat eating ways.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 9:57 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #236   OrangeXenon54

    Wow. What a fucking bitch. I would totally kick her out/move out/call social services on her. I guess eating animal products is the same as child abuse. Fuck you.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 10:14 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #237   -k-

    Wow, what a douche!

    Jul 8, 2011 at 10:15 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #238   Alan

    Hi, my name’s Alan, and one time I cooked dinner for a vegan only for her to tell me in a snotty voice that she didn’t eat Quorn cos it has dairy in it.

    I mean, I thought I’d done all the right things by buying that shitty stuff and I still didn’t win. On top of that, it turned out that it was a ‘friendship date’ so no sex either.

    Needless to say, I didn’t cook for her again…

    That’s my story, I hope you liked it.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 10:59 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #238.1   Canthz_B bang

      Alan, it always helps in the sex department to date a girl who’ll eat your meat. :-P

      Jul 9, 2011 at 3:20 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #239   Elyn

    The internal logic of the note doesn’t even make sense. “What you are doing is like child abuse. . . the least you could do is not do it in front of me.”
    What?

    Jul 8, 2011 at 11:03 am   rating: 18  small thumbs up

     
  • #240   ClAllen

    Does this vegan realize, that if bees do not polinate the vegis THERE WOULDN’T BE ANY VEGIS FOR THEM TO EAT !!! Get with the cycle, that’s 6th grade life science!!!

    Jul 8, 2011 at 11:07 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #241   sbaimee

    Why does a vegan need a refrigerator? I’d just pad lock the thing.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 11:31 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #242   Tiam

    “Selfishness is not wishing as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.” — Oscar Wilde

    Jul 8, 2011 at 12:00 pm   rating: 20  small thumbs up

     
  • #243   Fred

    After giving much thought to the matter, my sincere, heartfelt response would be, “MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS YOU VEGETABLE EATING ASSHOLE.”

    Jul 8, 2011 at 1:19 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #243.1   oi

      That’s the perfect answer. I like the way you think, short and sweet.

      Jul 8, 2011 at 1:43 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #244   Indeed bang

    How ironic that the same vegans crying about humane treatment of animals don’t seem to care about the exlpoitation and inhumane treatment experienced by the illegal immigrants who pick all their “non-animal food products”…..

    Jul 8, 2011 at 1:57 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

    • #244.1   Canthz_B bang

      Especially since most of them are legal migrant workers, papers and all.
      Illegal immigrants hold far better jobs than farm workers, guess whose social security numbers they’re using to get those jobs.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 3:15 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #245   insectchin

    I’d tell her to shove her vegan brownies up her ass.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 2:07 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #246   Turkey Vulture

    God, I fucking HATE vegans. I hope the submitter from Brooklyn called her room mate out on her stupid bullshit and then told her to go find a hippie commune to live on.

    What an entitled, small-minded c*nt.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 4:26 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #247   Turkey Vulture

    Daniforest, I totally agree with you here:

    “Animals are not meat-machines. They are living, breathing, sensing beings. Ask any pet-owner — this is not a philosophy, belief system, or debatable issue. Thus, wasting their meat, and raising them in torturous conditions is wrong and reprehensible. It’s not ok, nor is it a “lifestyle choice.” ”

    I eat meat, but I eat only meat and other animal products which I know were raised humanely (as in, I know the farmers who raised the animals, I know they were butchered on-site and not shipped to slaughterhouses.

    I feel VERY strongly about not treating animals like non-sentient, unfeeling production units. It’s fucked up to do that to living things.

    But if you and a room mate move in during May when you are still consuming animal products, and if you say in May that you’re okay with your room mate being an omnivore and not supporting humane farming like you do, then you are totally outside the realm of reason to say in December that they have to change their philosophy as you have or GTFO. It’s just wrong. It’s disrespectful and unreasonable.

    The note-writer is an unreasonable bitch because she’s being bitchy and unreasonable, not because she’s a vegan.

    Although, vegans still annoy the shit out of me.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 4:32 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

     
  • #248   Michael

    Clearly this chick is a nut job but that is no reason to insult vegans or veganism. Just like it would be wrong to say all gays are nut jobs because you know this one messed up gay person. You haters should all be ashamed of your behaviour.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 4:51 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #248.1   pony girl

      Yeah! and get off Micheal’s lawn!

      Jul 11, 2011 at 3:07 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #249   Jessica_Iowa

    While I find changing the rules mid stream appalling. What most bothers me is that the note was left on the bedside table. I don’t know what kind of relationship they had before but I’d never let any roommate into my room without me.

    Jul 8, 2011 at 5:30 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #249.1   The Elf

      Lol! I didn’t even catch that. Maybe, if the note fails, she’ll leave carrot tops in the bed as a warning?

      Jul 9, 2011 at 8:55 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #250   kimbo

    as a vegan i have to say, i can’t stand vegans. especially those who author notes such as these. really lady? so freaking pretentious!

    this is why i only have one vegan friend. most of us are ca-razy!

    Jul 9, 2011 at 12:14 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #251   Get on your bikes and ride bang

    If I were the submitter, by the time I got to the last sentence of this note I would definitely be thinking about “changing my diet”. To cannibalism.

    Jul 9, 2011 at 1:20 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

     
  • #252   Meri

    WOW! Since when did eating meat become ILLEGAL?? LOL. I am a vegetarian and my fiance is not. We are both very respectful of each others choices and eating habits. He handles and cooks the meat products (which I am not opposed to picking up for him at the store, as I do the grocery shopping). I will not touch or eat the meat but I can have it in the house and I can watch him eat it. Doesn’t bother me one bit. This girl who wrote the letter needs a swift kick out of the apartment.

    Jul 9, 2011 at 1:46 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #253   66scarylion44

    I was an asshole vegetarian, so my friends held an intervention with bacon for me. I am no longer an asshole vegetarian (!) but I still don’t eat cow.
    The only species of meat
    I will never, ever eat
    Is the calf and the cow
    Because they won’t chow
    On me whenever we meet.

    Jul 9, 2011 at 2:06 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #254   Anon

    Tsk tsk. See how quickly the vegan brain degenerates when it doesn’t get enough protein?

    Jul 9, 2011 at 2:32 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #255   mike

    Ask her if she is pro-choice or pro-life. If she says pro-choice, then snap into a slim jim and tell her to shut the hell up.

    Jul 9, 2011 at 3:00 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #255.1   Canthz_B bang

      What if she’s only pro-choice before the fetus develops a face? Can she eat that little morsel?

      Jul 9, 2011 at 3:07 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #256   Annie

    Everyone, anyone who eats anything – please read ‘the Vegetarian Myth’ by Lierre Keith
    http://www.lierrekeith.com/vegmyth.htm
    It is such an important book.

    Jul 9, 2011 at 3:15 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #256.1   pony girl

      Well, that was depressing.
      Shouldn’t have read that right before I go to bed.
      Now I have to read some Calvin and Hobbes, so I don’t have nightmares.

      Jul 11, 2011 at 3:04 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #257   COOOSTANZA

    i seriously can’t believe she compared keeping meat around the house to ignoring child abuse. what a stupid bitch.

    Jul 9, 2011 at 6:13 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #258   john

    I’m vegan, and this person’s problem isn’t their veganism, its that they are an a-hole.

    Jul 9, 2011 at 6:17 am   rating: 19  small thumbs up

     
  • #259   Melonia

    I am a vegan. The note still made me angry, because those people give “normal” vegans a bad reputation. Peopele should eat what they think is good to eat. When I’m eating with all my non-vegan-friends, I let them eat whatever they want. I try to accept them. Sadly most people don’t accept the way I’m eating. Don’t you think it’s a bit hypocritical to expect vegans to never comment on your eating habits, but always comment on theirs? Eating big amounts of meat in front of a vegan just to provocate them isn’t the nicest behaviour…

    Jul 9, 2011 at 8:28 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #259.1   Pat Patterson

      I’ve yet have to meet a vegan who never comments on my eating habits. Maybe you’re the exception to the rule, but all the vegans I’ve met so far have been giant self-righteous douchebags who think they have the moral high ground because they eat no animal products and are better than me.

      Jul 9, 2011 at 10:05 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #259.2