Nicely played, sir.

August 1st, 2011 · 168 comments

Explains Haley in Canada: “My friend Laura took $20 from her dad’s wallet and left a note telling him she needed it for parking. When she got home later, she found this.”

Laura, I took a pair of your jeans to pay for bread and a few grams of cold cuts. Love, Dad (AKA; VP)

Laura, I took a pair of your jeans to pay for bread and a few grams of cold cuts. Love, Dad (AKA; VP)

related: Dad holds the kitteh hostage

FILED UNDER: actually totally reasonable · Canada · Father-daughter notes · Moms & Dads · money · oh snap · signed with love


168 responses so far ↓

  • #1   A Dad

    Dad is awesome!

    Aug 1, 2011 at 10:33 pm   rating: 164  small thumbs up

     
  • #2   Fervel

    Laura’s dad is a douche.

    Aug 1, 2011 at 10:33 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   Heroin

      Yeah, you’re right. Why should he have a problem with his daughter going into his wallet and taking money without asking? What an asshole.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 10:47 am   rating: 100  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.2   Seanette

      Heroin has a point. Why should he be upset to lose $20 that might well have been a large percentage of his spending money budget until he next gets paid?

      Aug 2, 2011 at 6:22 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.3   Nunavut Guy

      I think that there is a certain teenage girl out there who needs a good spanking……….heheheheh.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 9:55 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.4   Canthz_B bang

      I’ll give her $20 if she’ll let me spank her! :twisted:

      Aug 3, 2011 at 12:31 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #3   sammi

    Ohhhhh, snap! Score one for dad!

    Aug 1, 2011 at 10:34 pm   rating: 53  small thumbs up

     
  • #4   Mike Oxlong

    Must be cheap jeans. My daughter’s jeans would pay for filet mignon, champagne & cocaine.

    Aug 1, 2011 at 10:35 pm   rating: 157  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   FeRD bang

      Ugh. That combo sounds like a waste of good filet mignon. Or a waste of good cocaine.

      Aug 1, 2011 at 11:10 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.2   Rattus

      Wow. Your daughter’s jeans must be cheap as well. My neighbour’s jeans would cover all that AND a hooker.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 7:06 am   rating: 29  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #5   Marie-Ann

    loverly :) I suspect that he actually took them so he could wear them later….

    Aug 1, 2011 at 10:45 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

     
  • #6   Zinnia

    dEaR DAD,
    (ALsO kNoWn AS ThE INVEnToR OF CRAZy)
    I’vE TaKEN yOuR NOtE TO ThE FBI To bE
    ANaLyZED.

    BeST,
    A CONCERNED CITIZEN

    Aug 1, 2011 at 10:53 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

     
  • #7   Kim

    Is her dad Joe Biden?

    Aug 1, 2011 at 10:56 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #8   FeRD bang

    Dad won’t feel so smug later, when he gets this postcard:

    New Dad-in-Law,
    I took your daughter’s hand in marriage to pay for all of the daddy issues she grew up with. Excited to be part of the family!
    Love,
    Inmate #54552352 (you can call me “Son”)

    Aug 1, 2011 at 11:08 pm   rating: 69  small thumbs up

     
  • #9   boxes

    Before people freak out too much about how much of an asshole Dad must be, consider the following SHOCKING POSSIBILITY:

    It is very possible he did not actually do anything with her jeans. The note might just be joking.

    Aug 1, 2011 at 11:20 pm   rating: 103  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   Fervel

      I still think he’s a schmuck, regardless.

      Aug 1, 2011 at 11:23 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.2   A Fox

      Also, I don’t think grocery stores take jeans as currency. Not even in Canada.

      Aug 1, 2011 at 11:31 pm   rating: 74  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.3   jadefirefly

      @Fervel – Because making a point as a parent is way uncool, when your kids have clearly decided that taking your cash without asking is okay.

      Seriously, were you raised in a barn?

      Aug 2, 2011 at 12:19 am   rating: 142  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.4   FeRD bang

      Although it’s true Dad couldn’t really use Laura’s jeans to pay for the things he described, seems to me this only “works” if he did actually take them. If Dad’s working out of any of the Parenting Playbooks™ I’ve seen, there’s a “confiscated” pair of jeans stashed away in some Dad-controlled area until they’re useful as leverage.

      Whether that means they get traded back for the $20, returned following satisfactory groveling, or become a prop in some further lesson-teaching… that all depends on the exact play.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 3:03 am   rating: 41  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.5   Mama Wrench

      Taking money from your parents (who have likely already spent thousands of dollars just keeping you alive for 18+ years) is perfectly acceptable. Taking property from your kids (that you probably paid for anyway) is totally wrong.

      A-DUUUUH.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 7:50 am   rating: 31  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.6   Ali

      Seriously, wtf is wrong with some of these people? I hope that Fervel person is just trolling.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 7:22 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #10   A Fox

    I find it interesting that everyone is attacking the dad for taking jeans from his daughter (which he probably paid for, assuming she is still young enough that her parents buy her clothes). Doesn’t anyone think it odd or wrong that the daughter thought it was totally fine to take $20 out of Dad’s wallet? I mean, if his wallet was there, I’m guessing he was, too – couldn’t she maybe have ASKED him for parking money?

    I’m team Dad, for sure.

    Aug 1, 2011 at 11:28 pm   rating: 163  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   Fervel

      I think it’s rather telling that she bothered to leave a note.

      If she was going to steal from her parents, she wouldn’t tell them.

      Also sure, he probably did pay for the pants. But that doesn’t means he has the right to take them away (and I sure he didn’t, anyway).

      Providing for your children isn’t (or at least shouldn’t be) something you can take back.

      Team Dad’s A Schmuck

      Aug 1, 2011 at 11:42 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.2   A Fox

      Children don’t “need” jeans and parking money, so I consider those things you can totally take back.

      That said, I’m a bit old-fashioned in that I believe in disciplining kids and only rewarding them when they actually do something worth rewarding.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 12:16 am   rating: 82  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.3   jadefirefly

      Uh… yes, he does have the right to take them away.

      If my mother or father buys me something, and I live in their house, under their roof, they have EVERY right to take it away.

      Good lord. You really don’t have a damn clue about parenting.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 12:21 am   rating: 87  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.4   jen

      well Fervel, I think it’s rather telling that he bothered to leave a note.

      If he was going to steal from his daughter, he wouldn’t tell her.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 1:10 am   rating: 52  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.5   Rattus

      @Fervel. At a guess, do you regularly take from your dad’s wallet when he’s not looking. That’s the only explanation I can find for your stance on this matter.

      Taking money (or anything, really) from someone’s, anyone’s, wallet unless you have a prior understanding is wrong, wrong, wrong.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 7:10 am   rating: 43  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.6   Clumber

      Team Dad!
      Dad is awesome and this was a fantastic little lesson for sticky-fingers-daughter, regardless of age. If daughter is old enough to flip through his wallet then she is also old enough to be told that is unacceptable. IMHO she feels nearly the same simply by submitting this to PAN.

      I don’t think it matters if he took her jeans hostage or was just making a point. Some of y’all are waaay too fucking serious and are missing the point by about 16 light years.

      Hell, he could have pulled the famous “Daughter, what is all your damn dirt doing in my trench?!” and handed her a shovel, followed hours later in the hot sun by, “Daughter – what do you think you are doing putting a trench in my yard?! Fill that trench immediately! ” lather, rinse, repeat. If the lesson is memorable (and submitted to PAN counts) it’s a good lesson. Even without the blisters…

      Aug 2, 2011 at 12:31 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.7   Citrico

      Team Dad!

      Seriously, taking money out of a wallet is a dick move. Dad was teaching a lesson in a similar manner, taking her actions, doing something similar – obviously not using money, since the daughter is broke, but taking something she likes – in order to demonstrate how it feels to be stolen from, even if the thief leaves a note.

      Fervel, when you cease to be a teenager and have children of your own, perhaps you’ll learn that you can’t let them run riot and have to teach them these things.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 12:58 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.8   makfan

      Team Dad!

      Nothing pisses me off more than having the $20 that I know I had in my wallet not be there when I’m just about to pay for something.

      Ask, and I might give you the $20. Just take it and there will be hell to pay.

      Aug 4, 2011 at 11:11 am   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #11   A Dad

    Loveandlogic.com
    Check it out you entitled crybabies.

    Aug 1, 2011 at 11:42 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   Fervel

      Hmm… Entreaty to look at some unknown site while being insulted….

      No. Fuck you.

      Aug 1, 2011 at 11:48 pm   rating: 29  small thumbs up

       
    • #11.2   Fervel

      “Dad.”

      Aug 1, 2011 at 11:49 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #11.3   bookworm

      I find it ironic that the name of the website is everything A Dad’s post isn’t.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 10:55 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #12   Bob

    Dudes, chill the ef out! What kind of place trades jeans for cold cuts?
    Dad’s obviously a prankster ;)

    Also, we do live in the 21st century. Laura could have found some way to ask prior to taking the cash, unless Dad’s in a meeting. Which demands the question, why’s he without his wallet? Only time my dad’s wallet is laying around is if he’s at home.

    And if Laura’s old enough to drive, she’s old enough for a debit card to her own checking account with her own money to pay for her own parking.

    Or she could just park farther away in a municipal lot/somewhere free and walk. Gee, what a novel idea!

    -Team Dad’s handwriting is scary, though.

    Aug 1, 2011 at 11:50 pm   rating: 82  small thumbs up

    • #12.1   Fervel

      I’m sorry if I’m coming across as too intense.

      Well… I’m sorry THAT I’m coming across as too intense.

      I agree with you. I just felt compelled to respond to others who seemed to think that A) if this was an entirely real thing then B) Dad was completely in the right, which is something I wholeheartedly disagree with.
      (obvs)

      Aug 1, 2011 at 11:58 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.2   Fervel

      Though I maintain my “fuck you” to A Dad.

      Insulting people and directing them to some site for them comb through to find whatever you’re driving at is indicative of a dick (ative).

      Aug 2, 2011 at 12:01 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.3   A Fox

      Fervel, are you a teenage girl who’s had your jeans taken away? Do you need a hug?

      Aug 2, 2011 at 12:18 am   rating: 71  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.4   jadefirefly

      Fervel, dad IS right.

      NO child has any right, entitlement, or REASON to be going through their parent’s wallet and taking cash. Even if they left a note, it’s completely unreasonable. If the kid has their own car, they either have their own job with which to pay for gas and parking; or mommy and daddy already pay for it, which means they likely paid for the aforementioned jeans.

      In what world do you really think it’s okay for a child to steal from their parent and not suffer SOME consequences, even if it IS just to teach a lesson?

      Aug 2, 2011 at 12:23 am   rating: 65  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.5   Lucy

      This is exactly the sort of thing my dad would have done if I’d taken money from his wallet without clearing it with him in person first. It’s sneaky to take money and leave a note – there’s no way to refuse it once it’s retrospective.

      I’m totally ‘Team Dad, Calm the F*ck Down Fervel’.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 12:58 am   rating: 56  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.6   Canthz_B bang

      I guess I’ll pass up this supreme opportunity to rant about entitled children except to say that only a brat would think she has the right to help herself to her dad’s hard earned cash without permission.

      I’d have cleared her closet and dresser drawers of everything I’d ever bought her, dresses and drawers!

      Aug 2, 2011 at 1:32 am   rating: 34  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.7   Kay

      Please don’t feed the trolls.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 1:52 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.8   Canthz_B bang

      Don’t look directly into the mirror.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 2:18 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.9   bookworm

      More irony!

      Aug 2, 2011 at 10:57 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.10   Clumber

      Bob, I love you for “Which demands the question,…” and avoiding the too oft wrongly used. That is all. As you were.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 12:34 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.11   Rob

      I like the cut of your gib, Ferv.

      Aug 15, 2011 at 1:24 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #13   Mik

    As a dad I can only say I’d totally write that note.

    To have anyone, even my daughter, go into my wallet and take money is unanswerable and demands some sort of lesson, even if it’s tongue in cheek… which, for sure, my kids would get, and they would get it.

    I’m for Team Dad. Remember, this is a note written to a driving-age person, not a ten-year-old. They watch Colbert. They get humor.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 12:15 am   rating: 79  small thumbs up

     
  • #14   foreal

    If I had taken $20 out of my dad’s wallet, even if I did leave a nice note stating that it was for parking (or whatever) and that I’d repay it, I would’ve gotten my ass kicked to the next county and back. (And don’t think this is one of those “back in MY day” rants–I’m in my mid-20s.)

    A little back-atcha play like Dad made there is absolutely fair play when Daughter decided to make a withdrawal from the Bank of Dad without permission.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 12:23 am   rating: 62  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   Xyzzy

      Sounds like she’s trustworthy and her father understands that even responsible adults can be heading somewhere important and realize they don’t have money to park or time to stop for cash. She’s probably one of the countless 25-39 year olds forced to stay with parents due to the economy, and was on the way to an interview.

      It’d be a pointless over-reaction to kick the ass of a responsible teenager for something adults occasionally do, and inappropriate with an adult. It has always been natural for parents to start treating responsible offspring increasingly like fellow adults in the early-mid 20s; something’s awry if there’s any ass-kicking after age ~26.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 5:19 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #14.2   Andrew

      But wouldn’t you think that Laura would have left a note saying this? I suspect that she would’ve left a note saying that it was an emergency, or for a job interview, or something, instead of just for “parking.”

      Also, in what world do adults occasionally just take money from other people without even trying to ask first? My roommate and I are both adults, but I would *never* think to just waltz into her room and take money from her wallet unless it was literally an emergency (and I mean like…at gunpoint. Or if someone’s life depended on it.)

      Aug 2, 2011 at 9:44 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #14.3   Clumber

      Hell, i don’t even go through my spouse’s wallet. EVER. Even if she tells me to go get whatever from her wallet, I will always bring it to her and let her go through it. That’s how the wolves raised me.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 12:36 pm   rating: 39  small thumbs up

       
    • #14.4   GRemm

      Likewise – I bring the whole purse, and I bring it in the same state she left it. Open, closed, flap up, flap down, stuffed, empty.. It doesn’t matter.

      That’s how I was raised, and that is how I will raise my own. If it isn’t yours then you don’t dig around in it.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 4:14 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #14.5   Seanette

      My husband and I don’t get into each other’s wallets without permission (I do have standing permission to check to see if he has enough cash for immediate needs, since I do the money management stuff), and we have joint bank accounts. He makes the majority of our income, but will not get cash from my wallet without asking permission, and I don’t nab cash from him without checking (I don’t know that something isn’t coming up that requires him to have that money in pocket unless I do!).

      Team “Dad has personal property rights, Princess needs to either pay her own way or learn about the delights of public transit or at least ASK before taking what belongs to others”.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 6:28 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #14.6   Citrico

      To be honest, if someone asks me to grab something from their wallet/purse/whatever, I just grab it (as that’s giving permission). Though considering the mound of crazy things that are often in a woman’s purse I tend to have to bring it to the owner and declare I can’t find it.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 1:02 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #14.7   Seanette

      @Citrico, my husband has the same problem with my purse (even when I request that he get something out for me). :)

      Aug 3, 2011 at 9:46 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #15   fifi

    Team Dad – I would be facing so much more than a snarky note if I’d have taken money from my parents’ wallets without asking – whether I left a note or not. His response was perfect, I think.
    But then I wouldn’t do it anyway because I was nicely brought up.
    - Another late-twenties poster.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 12:45 am   rating: 30  small thumbs up

     
  • #16   LOL

    Maybe “Laura” is like 35 years old and doesn’t pay rent?

    Aug 2, 2011 at 12:46 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

     
  • #17   JBee

    Felt to me like Dad was sleeping, and she decided to help herself to money instead of asking. Totally not cool, and I think he responded to it in a really funny and “cool dad” kind of way. It would have been a REAL jerk move if he, say, yelled at her for an hour about fiscal responsibility or taking stuff that’s not hers. If the kid is treating her parents like a cash dispenser they treat them like cash dispenser, she needs the lesson that parents are people too and how would you like it if someone took your stuff without asking first? Plus, ask and ye shall receive, don’t take things that should be offered.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 12:48 am   rating: 30  small thumbs up

     
  • #18   A Mom

    If my kids need to borrow money, they do this crazy thing called ASKING. They like their limbs in tact. :)

    I give it to Dad for having a sense of humor about the whole thing.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 12:55 am   rating: 42  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   mamason bang

      I like my words intact.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 11:28 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.2   mamason bang

      I guess I could use some lessons in tact.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 11:29 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.3   Li

      @mamason: Thank you so much for this. XD

      Aug 3, 2011 at 2:06 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.4   pony girl

      mamason!

      you rock

      Aug 3, 2011 at 8:02 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.5   Canthz_B bang

      Mama mia, that’s a spicy meatball comment!!

      Aug 4, 2011 at 2:45 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #19   Nicole

    Here’s a thought. Maybe the daughter does pay for her car, gas, and insurance. She might have just needed 20 bucks in cash for parking because she didn’t have any and didn’t have time to get to the bank to withdraw it. She could have asked though. But maybe she couldn’t get a hold of her dad for some reason. Who knows.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 1:04 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #19.1   Canthz_B bang

      Yeah, stopping at an ATM while driving to your parking place is unthinkable. Especially when dad’s wallet is more conveniently located next to his drunken, passed-out body.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 1:38 am   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.2   Lindsey

      Here’s a thought: if it’s an emergency, call 911. Otherwise wait for dad to give you the money, or suck it up and stop at the bank. OR, and this is a novel idea: stay home. If you can’t afford to go out, then why are you going out?

      Aug 2, 2011 at 8:53 am   rating: 18  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.3   Citrico

      Here’s what I used to do when I needed money from my dad:

      “Dad, can I have borrow some money?”

      It was super easy.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 1:04 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #19.4   interchangeable

      Here’s a thought: maybe Dad needed parking money and wouldn’t have time to stop at an ATM.
      Fact is, daughter presupposed that her need was greater than dad’s need and did whatever she damn well pleased. Furthermore, it probably didn’t even OCCUR to her that dad would have a need (such as lunch in the form of bread and cold cuts) and if it DID occur to her, she quickly dismissed it and fucked dad over with nary a backward glance. Her thought process being something along the lines of *I have no idea if he needs this for anything or not but I NEED IT and that’s what counts*

      Aug 10, 2011 at 6:34 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #20   sdedit

    I don’t get why people think Dad is being a jerk. I won’t even borrow $20 out of my husband’s wallet without asking, because my parents taught me that you don’t just grab what you want from other people’s purses and wallets. Looks to me like Dad is just using a little humor to show his daughter how it feels to have the tables turned. Far from being traumatized for life, Laura might actually be a little more considerate next time and ask permission first.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 1:07 am   rating: 45  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   Rattus

      You know what? My parents didn’t even have to teach me that – I just know that it’s wrong. Possibly because I would really, really hate having anyone take stuff from my purse (or closet or bookshelf or fridge) without asking first.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 10:21 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #21   Canthz_B bang

    Just when you think Joe Biden’s sense of humor sucks he pops off a note like this.

    Way to go Mr. VP!!

    Aug 2, 2011 at 1:23 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #22   Kay

    This is clearly a joke from a Dad w a sense of humour.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 1:55 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #23   Lenny!

    Anybody else notice dad’s handwriting resembles a typical serial killer’s note? Daughter needs to return that $20 ASAP!

    Aug 2, 2011 at 2:35 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #24   Ms Brown

    Nobody gets dad’s sense of humor, eh?
    This isn’t a lesson on parenting, it’s a lesson in snark: Daughter takes a $20 to pay for something that is a couple bucks.
    Dad retorts by “taking” her jeans (probably expensive) to pay for staple type food that doesn’t cost much.
    He’s making fun of his daughter because nobody needs a whole $20 to park anywhere in Canada. :)

    Aug 2, 2011 at 3:32 am   rating: 34  small thumbs up

    • #24.1   Goldie

      Ugh, you lucky Canadians, with your beady eyes and flapping heads! This is exactly why I didn’t get it – because in our area, special-event parking could easily be $15 and up :(

      Aug 2, 2011 at 6:26 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.2   Denise

      that is what I was thinking too. I thought it was just kind of his way of being funny.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 7:09 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.3   Rattus

      Beg to differ. In downtown Toronto, under the building where I work, it costs $20 to park for the day. I don’t know the breakdown rate because I don’t drive, but I do know that a number of expense reports cross my desk with $20 parking stubs attached.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 7:16 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.4   Slurreydude

      You obviously don’t live in Vancouver, where you could be required to take out a small loan to park for part of a day

      Aug 2, 2011 at 11:54 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #24.5   tvelociraptor

      Apparently Calgary’s the second most expensive city in North America when it comes to parking.

      Aug 4, 2011 at 9:40 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #25   Barret

    Unless you are a Dad and have been there done that, your comments carry NO weight.. Her jeans would make for some nice shop rags!! This is a good lesson for respect. Taking without permission is the same as stealing…

    Aug 2, 2011 at 3:51 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #25.1   Oh Geeee

      Hah I think Dad here was totally in the right and seems like a cool dude.

      Barrett, I hope you were exaggerating your point. Making shop rags?!? What a great way to teach your kid that if you’re upset with someone you can escalate the situation by stealing and destroying that person’s stuff. The world is full of enough folks who think every minor slight is reason to go batshit and destroy things. Teach your kid valuable lessons like that and soon they’ll be talking to law enforcement: “well, Officer, he took my hot pocket from the freezer without asking so I had every right to defenestrate his laptop.”

      Aug 2, 2011 at 6:21 am   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #26   Bridie

    Dad has a great sense of humor. What is wrong with some of you people?

    Aug 2, 2011 at 6:23 am   rating: 17  small thumbs up

     
  • #27   Lalala

    Ms. Brown, you have clearly never been to Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, or Niagara Falls.

    Team Dad. His note is hilarious.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 6:32 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #27.1   Ms. Brown

      I have been to some of those places, but judging by the tone of the note, I took it as how I described. An exaggeration of value. I’ll stand by it. :)

      Aug 2, 2011 at 2:54 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #28   Denise

    OK I totally would have taken his note as a joke. But my dad and I had that sense of humor. Yes he may be frustrated to go into his wallet to retrieve the 20 he thought was there…to find a note instead. But if he were really upset he would have confronted her and not wrote a silly note.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 7:12 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #29   Lindsey

    “a few grams of cold cuts”

    Grams of cold cuts? Ugh… this is why Canada could use a good invading.

    Also, who takes money out of their dad’s wallet?I wouldn’t even touch my dad’s wallet. And if he asked me to bring it to him, I’d do the two-finger hold it way out in front of you carry like it could come alive at any moment and bite my face off.

    Respect, people… teach it to your kids so that notes like these don’t have to happen.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 7:17 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   Rattus

      FYI, the metric system makes way more sense than the Imperial system. 0 = freezing / 100 = boiling, everything’s divided by ten. Sensible.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 8:06 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.2   Lindsey

      It makes as much sense as any system that you’re used to using. My question was, if you’re going to go with such a small amoutn of weight, why not just say “slices”. I’m fairly certain that most people order cold cuts in Canada by the kilo or half-kilo.

      Unless cold cuts is slang for crack… it’s been awhile since I’ve been to Canada.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 8:45 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.3   Rattus

      They could order a 200th of a kilo, but are more likely to order 5 grams. That’s just the way we roll.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 9:15 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.4   Heroin

      Prices for deli meat in my city (in Canada) are per 100 grams. So I routinely order, say, 300 grams of honey ham for $6.00.

      I don’t believe I’ve ever used the word ‘kilo’; certainly not regarding deli meat.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 11:01 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.5   Rattus

      I’ve used it for ground beef, but no, not deli meat.

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    • #29.6   Margaret

      Didn’t Canada invade the US and burn down the White House once? Don’t mess with Canada.

      Crazy thought — maybe the dad thought it would be funny to say a few grams of cold cuts as a play on the other kinds of things that could be sold in grams.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 12:50 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.7   Rattus

      We did, and we’re not afraid to do it again.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 1:19 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.8   Lindsey

      British invaded VIA Canada. That’s like saying the Anglo-Cherokee War was an American victory even though it ended 15 years before the DoI was signed. War of 1812 ended 68 years before Canada became its own country… and you still haven’t gotten around to taking the Royal Family off your money.

      But I digress… would have been funnier if dad went more of a “donated all of your jeans to charity for a $20 tax wrtire-off, so don’t worry about paying me back”… and then actually do it.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 10:14 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #30   Mama Wrench

    Wow. I was by no means raised in the turn of the century and my parents still would have made my world end if I “borrowed” (stole) their money without asking. Especially since by the time I could drive they expected me to pay rent if I wanted to live in their house.

    Team Dad all the way. I know my Dad wouldn’t have let me get screwed over if I had a legitimate reason to ask for the money, as long as I asked first.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 8:19 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

     
  • #31   divaandwriter bang

    I am Team Dad all the way. That money was his. It was in his wallet. Taking it without prior permission was wrong. If Laura is old enough to drive, she is old enough to be financially responsible as well.

    I think Dad pulled a great prank, and made his point.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 8:37 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

     
  • #32   Tracy

    If I or one of my siblings took cash out of my dad’s wallet we’d have a lot more to worry about then missing jeans. lol

    Aug 2, 2011 at 9:12 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #33   Mox

    The fact that anyone at all is siding against the father in this is terrifying. I have 2 young girls (5 and 8) and a boy due on Halloween. I’m hoping the people saying it was “okay” for the daughter to go into someone’s wallet because she left a note are all teens/pre-teens. When I was in High School I was the “punk rock” kid, had mohawks, liberty spikes, every shade of dyed hair, weird clothes etc. I was friends with everyone, my group could get rowdy but we respected authority figures that deserved/earned respect. I had a 6.4 GPA when I graduated (had 4 or 5 AP (Advanced Placement) classes that bumped my 4.0 up) and started college with nearly a year of credits under my belt as well as being the only non-jock/weird kid to win Homecoming King and fit-in with every “clique” in the school.

    I went back to the high school to visit a couple teachers about 2 years later and the kids seemed to be bouncing off the walls! Kids realising that teachers (and parents, for that matter) cannot lay a hand on them without fear of severe repercussions has made the world twist in a scary way. I remember growing up/acting up at home my mom and I would get into verbal arguments that could get pretty heated. A couple times I threatened to call the “child abuse hotline” and she picked up the phone and said “here, call them. I’ll dial it for you, see where you end up.” and, my favorite line she used was “if the police are going to come arrest me for yelling at you, I’ll give them a reason to take me” haha. It’s a scary world when the kids are realising they have “power.” Teachers getting fired for grabbing an arm of a kid to break-up a fight is just insane.

    Our daughters have been raised the same way I was; to respect parents/elders unless they show unabashed blatant disrespect toward you. Never start a fight. Try to be friendly with everyone. And so on. I feared my generation was the last whom were properly raised, but I’ve seen good kids that give me faith and hope for the future. If I took money from my dad’s wallet or mom’s purse, they would have gave me a good whoopin’ and grounding. Those are two places you never touch unless they belong to you in my opinion.

    Discipline is severely lacking these days, and a lot of these posts are proof of that. I really hope my kids don’t grow up to think a note is a liable excuse to steal money from my wallet, especially if I’m footing the bill for everything anyway. /soapbox

    Aug 2, 2011 at 9:31 am   rating: 18  small thumbs up

    • #33.1   kermit

      Shouldn’t you don some “liberty spikes” (whatever the hell those are) and yell at kids to get off your lawn?

      Aug 2, 2011 at 4:33 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #34   A

    This is ridiculous. I’m Team Laura (and Fervel!).

    1) If I took money from my dad’s wallet (because he was asleep or whatever the case may be) and left him a note, he might be annoyed if he had plans for that $20 bill, but certainly not AFFRONTED the way half you crazy folks are. Like someone else said, not having cash when you need it (especially petty cash like this) is something that happens to adults, too. Laura left a note; she clearly wasn’t stealing the money from dear old Dad.

    2) No, Dad does not have the right to confiscate her property for the hell of it, even if he did pay for it. (Which, given the fact that she’s already driving, I’d say there’s a good chance he didn’t.) Another one of life’s lessons that parents should be teaching their kids is that a gift is a gift and can’t just be taken away because you changed your mind. I would think differently if he borrowed something from her that he might actually use (like for like, a common thing in families that know the word SHARE).

    As it happens, clearly Dad’s note is a joke, and it’s funny in that cringeworthy way that most “Dad” jokes are (or aren’t, depending on your stance).

    Aug 2, 2011 at 10:52 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #34.1   isa

      No, leaving a note doesn’t mean its okay to just take/borrow whatever you want. Before you take something that is not yours, you ask for and wait for permission. Ya, she might have done the asking part with the note, but did Dad agree to it BEFORE Laura took off with the money? THAT is the lesson Dad tries to teach her.

      And you are contradicting yourself here: because according to you, since Dad left her a nice little note, it should be perfectly A-OK for him to take her jeans. And he did use the jeans; he used it (instead of using a $20 bill) to buy food. Maybe Laura is planning to return the money later. Maybe Dad is planning to buy back the jeans later too. So according to your logic, that makes taking things without permission totally cool right?

      This Dad is just trying to get her to think in another person’s shoes; I doubt he really sold her jeans. Sometimes, turning the table around is a much more effective lesson than giving a two-hour lecture.

      And before you go “you older people are all just crazy”, I am 25 years old.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 12:02 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #34.2   Clumber

      A… so what you are saying is that Dad should respect Daughter’s property that he has no right to. Sort of like Daughter should fucking respect Dad’s property that she has no right to?

      And you’re calling others crazy?

      Aug 2, 2011 at 12:43 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #34.3   GRemm

      She can presumptively take something that is not hers, without permission but he can’t take something that legally is his (if he bought them) in retaliation?

      So, he is wrong to do what she did *after* she did it? So he should have taken the jeans first and that might make it okay? Either you don’t think stealing / confiscating is right or you don’t think it is that big of a deal. You can’t condone both acts.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 4:18 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #34.4   bookworm

      Stealing is okay, but only if you’re young and stealing from crazy old people. That’s what I’m getting from A’s post.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 10:41 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #34.5   TippingCows

      It’s a matter of principle. Just because it is your dad/mom and someone with whom you are comfortable does not mean it is ok to take anything from them without permission. I would never have though to take anything from the wallet of any adult in my house. It was not even an option. I only do it with my husband if I ask him first. He won’t take from me even if I give him permission; he hands it to me so I can extract the currency.

      Dad is uber cool for responding the way he did; it could have been much worse. Even at 32 and having just stayed with my father for 2 months between moving residences I still would not breach that respect and consideration for his “stuff”.

      I maintain this standard even though he likes me eat my restaurant leftovers without asking. Mutual respect and personal standards, people!

      Aug 7, 2011 at 1:00 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #35   terry

    Are most of you retarded? Or at there a zillion comments I’m not seeing passionately attacking the Dad?

    Jesus Christ, all you boomer folks need to calm your tits whenever the chance to talk about the ungrateful whippersnappers who are dealing with the incredible mess you made of the world and the economy dares to do something you deem disrespectful.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 10:53 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #35.1   Rattus

      Wait until you have teenagers of your own. And as far as I can tell, the ungrateful whippersnappers aren’t dealing with anything more taxing than a search for new apps.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 11:14 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.2   terry

      A crippled economy, pile of debt, no jobs, and environmental disaster is pretty damn taxing, gramps.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 2:54 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.3   Rattus

      Hey, that’s the same crap we had when I was your age. And that’s gran, thank you very much.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 3:06 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.4   kermit

      Yeah, Rattus I’m sure that when you went to school (even in Canada) you paid your own tuition and it took you 10+ years to pay off your student loans.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 4:36 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.5   Clumber

      Boomer folks?! HAH! Nah, that’s my… no actually, it isn’t even my parents. I think I am in the “leave me the fsk alone” generation… but not the “Me” one. the one between. Or whatever.

      CB; PG; PR…? What generation would I be in if born on the day of the Tet Offensive? Or what label aside from SnotWeavel would I wear?

      And I didn’t get much of a chance to ruin the world for you yet, terry. The ones I vote for seem to get driven off or scared off from doing anything. Tell you what though – let me know what voting district you personally live within and I’ll do my best to convince my beloved that we need to move there so I can try to hustle up ruining your world more intimately, k?

      Aug 2, 2011 at 5:27 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.6   Rattus

      I’m not sure what you’re getting at. Are you under the impression that Canadians don’t pay for their education? We do. And we did thirty years ago. And thirty years ago the economy was bad (Reaganomics – yikes!), as was the environment. Please do clarify for me the issue that is leading to this mini-snipe.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 5:29 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.7   Clumber

      Dammit, I meant to add that I checked and my tits are quite calm, sadly. Working for a Douche-go-round 10 hours a day does that for ya’. Hell, they may be in a coma…

      Love that this ridiculous and probably FUN exchange from a cool dad to his sticky-fingered daughter is approaching in/outdoor cat DEFCON levels.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 5:31 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.8   Canthz_B bang

      Clumber, I think that makes you GenX, just after Baby Boomer. I know I’m a stud, but 1968 would make you my little sister, not my daughter. :-)

      terry, we Boomers didn’t ruin the environment or the economy, our parents did and kicked the ball down the field to us.
      We’ve been hard at work trying to clean it all up for you and our grandchildren.
      And yes, stealing money from our wallets is wrong. The proper way to steal our money is to ask us to co-sign on your car loans.
      Stealing money from your wallets for our long-awaited social security checks however is something we’ll fight for tooth and nail. ;-)

      Aug 3, 2011 at 12:05 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.9   Clumber

      CB – NEVER! I WAS BORN THE OLDEST SISTER AND I WILL STAY THE OLDEST SISTER!

      My dad was born just before the boomer gen. So I am sort of in-between stereotyped gens. In any case, I hardly think I can be blamed for ruining much of anything. Not for lack of trying, but for lack of effectiveness. Besides, clearly terry is shortbus eligible. I don’t work with them anymore, I just do zeros and ones these days.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 4:36 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.10   kermit

      @ 35.6 Rattus -

      Which part is confusing you? The fact that, I said compared to today’s generation, you had it pretty good?

      Sorry, but you did. You didn’t graduate with $20 000+ of student debt (more than half than you can expect to earn in your first job out of university). When you took the bus to university/work back then – assuming you couldn’t afford a car – the bus driver didn’t make about twice as much as what you, as a university graduate would earn out of college, either. I highly doubt that rent (and the cost of living in general) as a percentage of the average salary was as high as it is today. And by the way, I speak as a Canadian who did my undergrad in Canada. So I don’t really get why you assume that I obviously must be an ignorant American citizen who thinks your downtown Toronto office is in an igloo.

      American kids have it even worse because their college tuition is even greater. In case you haven’t opened a newspaper recently, almost 25% of today’s American kids are living below the poverty line – the greatest since the Depression (i.e. 1930s).

      So kindly spare us all the infernal whining of how tough the boomers had it or how bad stuff was during the Reagan era. The fact remains that the boomers were able to enjoy privileges that today’s generation will never get to enjoy, such as:
      - defined benefit pension plans for their retirement,
      - access to cheap education
      - access to unprecedented economic growth and comparatively low income inequality

      I have no desire to further continue this pity party you, CB and all the other indignant whiners call a conversation.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 5:04 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.11   pony girl

      @Clumber, aren’t we generation X ?
      I think.

      I’m not a boomer, I know that. Boomers were 1946-1964.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 8:11 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.12   Canthz_B bang

      kermit, why drag me into your drama? I just pointed out which generation actually fucked the planet (not my fault if you don’t understand history, like when my generation’s parents thought putting asbestos all over the place was a good thing and mercury could be safely poured into our oceans), and made a couple of jokes about how each generation takes from the other. I have no dog in this fight, so don’t fuck with me.

      Aug 4, 2011 at 2:59 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.13   Rattus

      kermit, you are one angry tool and, to paraphrase the Dixie Chicks, I am embarrassed that you are Canadian. And assuming that you are currently young, you have no fucking idea what life was like as a student thirty years ago, just as my reading assorted history books doesn’t really help me understand fully what life was like for the average young person in 1951.

      I suggest that you take your self-pity and rage and get yourself some therapy. Learning self-awareness might help you learn why chose to go ahead and incur an education-related debt load when you should have known that you would just end up drowning in resentment. Own your personal failure, young kermit, and stop blaming those who came before you.

      Aug 4, 2011 at 7:41 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.14   kermit

      @CB – Yeah, I know your generation did absolutely nothing to screw up the economy or the planet. I am sure everything started going wrong all at once, say five or ten years ago. And I’m not dragging you into anything – you’re the one that never misses an opportunity to bitch and complain about how people younger than you are such ungrateful assholes. Really classy there, dude.

      @Rattus – Wow, I am impressed by your well-thought out fact-based rebuttal. It must be nice living in that fact-free world of yours where nobody collects any statistics on debt or well-being. Was your undergrad tuition an average of $60000/yr? Did you graduate with debt that was half your starting salary? I suppose secretarial school didn’t cost that much. I’m sure you must feel really accomplished being a glorified secretary, er, “administrative assistant”, 20 years later hon.

      Aug 4, 2011 at 4:58 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.15   Rattus

      Well, kermit, I didn’t go to university because a) I had, and still have, absolutely no desire to devote my life to a corporation (the job pays for my life – my life isn’t my job); and b) I had no desire to accumulate a debt load of that magnitude. But that’s what not being an idiot gets you – forethought with the appropriate attendant actions. And as it turns out, one does now require a university degree to be a glorified secretary. Fortunately they’re not all condescending pricks.

      FYI, tuition may be more these days, but so are the salaries. 30 years ago the starting professionals at my company made about $20,000 a year. Right now they’re starting at $80,000. I do hope you factored inflation into your whining.

      And for someone so tuned in to the eighties, you seem to have neglected the massive world-wide recession of the early part of the decade – layoffs, wage freezes, the whole nine yards. Perhaps you might like to try reading something by someone who didn’t have their nose jammed up Reagan’s ass.

      Aug 4, 2011 at 5:22 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.16   Canthz_B bang

      I guess kermit doesn’t read very well, because what I said is that things started going very wrong far longer ago than 5 or 10 years ago. That my generation is the first to recognize it and actually try to do something about it.
      Try thinking 150 or 175 years ago. Think in terms of “The Industrial Revolution” and decide when mankind started to actually make a difference on the environment. When things began to turn pear-shaped.
      Don’t just put up words, put some thought behind them…please?

      You see, kermit, crappy attitudes have nothing to do with age or generations to my mind. But if the shoe fits, what should one do with it?

      Aug 5, 2011 at 1:26 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.17   Oh Geeee

      I dunno why I’m throwing my hat in at all but:

      Rattus, the increase in tuition prices has far outpaced inflation. Kids are graduating with more debt.

      BUT, that’s no reason to bitch because it is still possible to go to school without racking up the debt. I graduated in 2005 with no debt by commuting to a public university, busting ass at Toys ‘R’ Us to make tuition payments, and, thankfully my grandparents helped by letting me live there and paying $5,000 towards my education. It’s still possible to avoid crushing debt.

      Funny story… I was at a partner’s house for dinner and his in laws were there. His mother in law started complaining that she had to pay property taxes to education in their town. Now my husband (crazy socialist) was ready to explode. I said “yah, but I hate paying for your social security, which will be gone before I need it.”. Outraged she said “I paid that money into the system.”. To which I replied “and governments YOU elected spent your money.”. Now I’m not against paying social security taxes, it was really by way of a point… Each generation has its own shit. Mine is buried in student loan debt. The boomers are getting older and soon their need for healthcare will be astronomical. Gen X is getting screwed by the economy, losing jobs and when folks hire again being replaced by younger workers who companies can pay less. And for the kiddos, our next generation is increasingly failed by an educational system that doesnt prepare them to compete in a global marketplace.
      So it does very little good to point fingers now, since we all need to pull together or life’s going to suck. Oh, and I am totally Republican so don’t think this is some communist rant. But I would hope that even Republicans recognize the debt we owe to prior generations who paid for our public schooling and the necessity of protecting our children who may someday end up supporting our asses. For realz, can’t we all just get along?!?

      Aug 6, 2011 at 7:36 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #35.18   Canthz_B bang

      You miss one other thing about Boomers. While younger people may currently have college loan debts, they have the education and the time to make the money to pay them off. That’s what the loans were for after all, to get you good paying jobs.
      Boomers on the other hand are supporting both our children and our senior citizen parents.
      Talk about being squeezed during a bad economy? Try having your adult children moving back in with you and caring for an elderly parent all while trying to save for your own retirement.

      Young families in the US also have many more tax credits and much higher tax deductions for dependents when they’re raising children now than we had a few decades ago

      Sure, Boomers may have more right now than younger people, but our earning years are either behind us or soon to be so.

      Aug 8, 2011 at 7:18 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #36   terry

    By the way, my dad “steals” money from my mother’s purse without asking so many times she’s taken to calling it the ATM.

    I guess we should hang him, right?

    Aug 2, 2011 at 10:56 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #36.1   Kate from Iowa

      Doesn’t make it right, you know. My dad used to smoke pot while he drove my sister and I to girl scout meetings. Should we all do the same?

      Aug 2, 2011 at 1:43 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #36.2   GRemm

      Yes.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 4:22 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #36.3   Clumber

      Kate from Iowa and thank you for calling (using my imaginary smoooooth radio voice) – I think that a lot of folks on here today might find a little peace in toking up, but i am not sure they should take you and your sister to girl scout meetings…

      –Team Too Much a Wuss to have ever tried the 420 Train, even when playing in a band that was 88% high 99% of the time.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 5:35 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #36.4   Seanette

      I would assume that a married couple would have discussed this and established a mutually acceptable arrangement. It’s called being mature enough to respect each other and work things out, not just grab property behind someone’s back and scamper away.

      How do you know your parents didn’t agree that this is OK with both of them, or that your mother doesn’t return the favor occasionally?

      Aug 2, 2011 at 6:35 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #36.5   Canthz_B bang

      terry, the monetary relationship between husband and wife is a reciprocal one in a good marriage. Both share responsibility for running a household, so there is no yours and mine involved. Marital assets, you know?

      I suppose it’s OK to slide $20 out of your dad’s wallet if you’re contributing to the household and family in a financial way, but not just because you’re short of cash and dad has some.

      A note saying “I took $20 from your wallet for parking. I’ll pay you back Friday.” wouldn’t get the responses we read here. Sans the “I’ll pay you back”, it stinks of entitled brat syndrome. After all, there’s probably less expensive (even free) parking to be had, albeit less convenient. Walk a few blocks if you can’t afford certain parking on your own. If you’re responsible enough to have a car, you should be self-sufficient enough to handle parking fees.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 12:24 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #37   bookworm

    I just asked my dad for some money, and he’ll probably send me more than I need simply because I asked, so I’m getting a kick out of all the morons here who think it’s perfectly okay for a child to go through their parents’ money.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 11:03 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #38   SilentPsycho

    I think I’m Team ‘Everyone is over-reacting’.

    Yes, she borrowed money from her Dad’s purse without verbal permission. Alert the Pentagon! However, maybe there’s a reason for it. Maybe he was out, asleep, or for some other reason he was unavailable and she couldn’t ask him. Could have been she was rushed for time, or even too low on funds, but the fact that she left a note implies that she was planning to pay it back when she got a chance. Stealing means to take something without intending to give it back. There is no ‘if’ or ‘but’ about it. Borrow means to takes something, intending to give it back or replace it with an exact duplicate of it. Also, I can honestly say that my parents would rather I actually get to what I needed to be at on time, rather than late or rushed and out of breath, and I would be the same for any future Psychos. Who knows, maybe it was an exam, an interview, or an important class she had to be on time for?

    For those having a go at the Dad, if you really believe he did this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would be honoured to sell you. It’s obviously a tongue-in-cheek Father-Daughter joke. If he was really mad at her, he would have spoken to her, not written this note.

    There. Everyone happy and calmed down? Or at least calmed down enough to put the pitchforks and torches down for a few minutes?

    Aug 2, 2011 at 12:19 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #38.1   isa

      If Laura has an emergency, she probably would have left a note saying “I need the money for an emergency” instead of “I need the money for parking”. And if the wallet is at home, Dad is more than likely to be home as well. We can go over the maybes for the whole day, but maybe if she has a good reason (“Have a job interview at 2, borrowed $20 for parking. You are sleeping so I don’t want to wake you up. Sorry”), then Dad wouldn’t have to leave his little note too.

      And just because YOU intend to return the item, doesn’t mean the owner has no right to refuse. Borrowing means you have the owner’s permission to do so. You are borrowing something when you ask (verbal or not) “hey can I borrow this?” and the owner of the item goes “sure go ahead”. You don’t assume the owner will let you have the item BEFORE you even ask. Can a sibling just open your bag and fish out the keys to “borrow” your car without asking you first? Can a friend just go through your closet and “borrow” your clothes without your permission? That’s just disrespectful.

      The point of Dad’s note is to show his kid how rude her behavior was. And yes, doesn’t matter if it is $20 or $1000, borrowing without asking first is rude.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 3:15 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.2   GRemm

      Whoa – somehow you must have managed to read the daughter’s original note.

      Good thing you have the real evidence, the rest of us have a post on PAN to go from; a post that indicates the daughter “took” 20$ for “parking”.

      Now, I might not have all the facts but in order to assume something is borrowed I would at least expect the use of the following words: borrowed, loaned, replace, pay back, return etc.

      So, if we get to invent the details as we go – here is one for ya. Dad is out of work, has a limited amount of funds left and planned on going to the pharmacy to make sure his COBRA benefits (or Canadian equivalent) get used while they are available. His diabetes medicine? Yeah, the co-pay was 20 dollars. Now instead, his too lazy to stop at an ATM on the way to the mall just took that money for parking so she could spend $80+ on ANOTHER pair of butt-ugly jeans she didn’t need.

      So, yeah, when you re-interpret all of the information to fit a particular scenario then you might be right. So might team Dad. point is you don’t have a fucking clue either way. Without more information all you have is a presumptuous, sticky-fingered daughter acting disrespectful to her father and his light-hearted response.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 4:30 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.3   Clumber

      ♥♥♥♥ GRemm♥♥♥♥ That’s one of my itches in comments on sites like this. Folks who have entire long scenarios based upon.. well nothing. Glad someone else sees it too.

      I think Butt-Ugly™ was the brand of jeans my mom made me wear back in Jr. High school…

      Aug 2, 2011 at 5:39 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.4   Canthz_B bang

      If we take the given facts, she took the money and let dad know. that is all.
      I hope her intent is to repay him, but we are not given that.
      there is no emergency so urgent that it is acceptable to steal from someone we may reasonably assume was home since his wallet was there.

      Why not just ask for the money unless you’re pretty sure the answer will be a resounding “NO!”?

      Admitting the crime in no way mitigates it.

      Here’s a real shocker for you…WE ALL KNOW DAD WAS JOKING, THAT HE DIDN’T REALLY PAWN HER JEANS FOR FOOD MONEY!! :roll:

      Aug 3, 2011 at 2:49 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.5   SilentPsycho

      Isa, the Dad probably left the little note as a joke. Like I said, if he was really angry about it, he would have talked to her, not left a tongue-in-cheek note.

      GRemm and Clumber, it’s called accepting the various possiblities. If you noticed, I didn’t give a whole long scenario, instead I just gave various reasons for different parts. I didn’t draw my theories on nothing, it was based upon the note, the method of the note, the tongue-in-cheek nature of it, and by visualising how this scenario would go in my house. Your theory is more lacking than mine, because

      a) Linda should know about her Dad’s diabetes, funds, and the fact that he needs medicine, (I know I do for my Mum, and likewise my parents know about mine).
      b) He probably wouldn’t need copay, from what I’ve read Canada has an NHS, and if it works like it does here in the UK, if you are on benefits you are exempt from paying for medication.
      c) You obviously know Linda more than me, as I read from the whole act that she borrowed the money is that she was in a rush, which usually doesn’t imply shopping. Heaven knows, the number of times I’ve had to quickly borrow money from my parents as I’m about to rush off out the door to work so I can either buy lunch or buy a bus ticket because I don’t have enough time to get to the nearest ATM.

      Canthz_B, I disagree. I believe that sometimes there are emergencies, or even lesser things, that it’s okay to lend money to family in this manner. I’ve come home in the past to find a note similar to this from my Mum, all because she wanted to buy a paper or some flowers. I usually just mock-roll my eyes, laugh, and wait patiently until she pays me back. She’s my Mum after all.

      And REALLY? Here I thought people believed he took her jeans so he could hook in a john while on his favourite street corner! ;) Besides, as I’ve learnt from public service, never underestimate the public’s capacity for stupidity. :P

      Aug 3, 2011 at 12:39 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.6   Margaret

      In Canada, some medical costs are covered, but not all. For example, visiting your general practitioner is covered. Going to a specialist is covered IF you have a referral from your GP. Medical procedures are generally covered if ordered by a doctor for a medical need (so, e.g. cosmetic surgery would not be covered). Drugs are NOT covered, although I think seniors and low income children can get on programs to have them covered. Many people have insurance for extras. Most of the ones I know about cover 80% of the cost. Medical devices are not covered (crutches, wheelchairs) unless you have insurance, although there are ways to get them on loan or get subsidies. Dental is not covered (again, I think there are programs for low income children). Optometrists are not covered once you are over 18. I suppose it generally works out that if it is a medical expense that occurs while you are in the doctor’s office or in the hospital, it will be covered. Outside of that, you cover it. So we did not have to pay for the doctor, xray or cast for my son’s broken leg. If he had needed a prescription for pain medication or crutches once we got home, we would have had to pay for those. Also, healthcare is a provincial responsibility, so the federal goverment gives the money to the provinces, and the provinces administer it. Therefore, there is some variation between provinces.

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    • #38.7   Canthz_B bang

      SilentPsycho, theft is not a loan. Borrowing is acceptable, but requires consent.

      Would you like me to “borrow” a few bucks from you without asking whether or not you have a pressing need for your money?

      It’s really just inconsiderate and there’s no getting around that for people who have a good sense of morals.

      Really, parking is neither an emergency nor even a lesser reason. Parking where you want to even if you cannot afford it on your own is a convenience, not an emergency or even a situation. Park somewhere else. Somewhere less costly than your normal spot, somewhere free if you don’t have the money today for your preferred parking place. You don’t take someone else’s money to indulge yourself. And that’s assuming that we accept the excuse for the monetary theft was parking, not lunch, cigarettes, drugs, candy bars or whatever. Bottom line is you don’t take money out of someone’s wallet without asking, because they may need THEIR MONEY today. they deserve to have the opportunity to either make the loan or not. Stripping them of the ability to control their own funds is patently wrong. I don’t understand why some here cannot see that very elemental fact.

      Aug 4, 2011 at 3:12 am   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.8   Canthz_B bang

      Margaret, just asking, but NO cosmetic surgeries are covered? I’d think that correction of congenital anomalies like cleft palate would, or at least should be.
      If the standard is “medical necessity” as it is in most US health care plans, some cosmetic care is covered. just depends on circumstances.

      Most of our health plans also cover DME (durable medical equipment) like crutches and such, as long as a doctor certifies that it’s medically necessary.

      Obviously, your son with a broken leg requires crutches to ambulate, so our plans would cover such a thing without a second thought.

      Aug 4, 2011 at 3:34 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.9   Rattus

      Cleft palate is not strictly cosmetic in the most superficial sense, so it would be covered. Breast reduction is also not strictly cosmetic (back issues from hauling those things around), so that is also occasionally covered, as is bariatric surgery. Breast enlargement is NOT covered, nor is removal of crows feet or the pinning back of one’s ears.

      And most of us do have the insurance to cover health-related hardware, medications and dental. And I don’t pay for that, either – wheeee!!!!

      Aug 4, 2011 at 7:30 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.10   SilentPsycho

      Canthz_B, if you were a relative that lived with me, wrote a note to let me know you’d taken it, I wouldn’t mind. Especially since I would know where you lived in order to get the money back after you next got paid. ;)

      Like I’ve said, I’ve been in this position before, with my parents borrowing money from me.

      Aug 4, 2011 at 8:25 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.11   Rattus

      But SilentPsycho, what if you were taking a nap with the full intention upon arising of taking your last twenty dollars to the beer store to purchase a twelve-pack because your best friend, who just got dumped, is coming over that evening and you want to share a few beers, a bag of Doritos and some commiseration, only to find that your room mate took your last twenty because they needed to park somewhere, thereby putting you into the position of sharing nothing but Doritos and commiseration sans beer? Are you saying that your only reaction would be a sangfroid shrugging of the shoulders?

      Aug 4, 2011 at 8:47 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.12   Canthz_B bang

      What Rattus said. There’s really no reason to steal and leave a note.
      It is inconsiderate of what the other person’s need for their money may be.
      Has nothing to do with the ability to pay it back. It’s wrong.

      Aug 5, 2011 at 1:47 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.13   SilentPsycho

      Rattus, actually, I would just shrug it off, even for a roommate. If they needed to get somewhere badly enough to borrow the money in this fashion, then good luck to them. Alcohol is just alcohol in the end, and if worst came to worst, I have several options open to me due to the extra time I have to prepare. I normally keep a variety of baking ingredients around, so I could make cookies or other snacks, I have a large collection of anime to help my best friend relax, and I have time if I need to go find to the nearest ATM and either get some more cash out if I have it, or if I don’t, use a credit card to buy the stuff.

      Aug 5, 2011 at 5:25 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #38.14   jennyrose76

      Taking without asking is NOT OK. I repeat, NOT OK. You act as though people are saying Laura should be shot-I am on Team Dad, and I got the definite impression he was being tongue-in-cheek in his reply.
      I think he handled it well-he didn’t leave a note saying he was going to kick her ass, merely did the same thing that she did, an action that you apparently were OK with when Laura did it.
      I think it was a quick way for Dad to point out that taking money out of his wallet without asking wasn’t allowed. He did it in a non-confrontational, relatively clever way. So try not to get all wound up about “Poor Laura.”

      Aug 5, 2011 at 6:07 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #39   redheadwglasses

    The thing is, Laura is the chickenshit here. If the billfold was at home, then DAD was at home, and she could have ASKED for money for parking. Instead, she slipped the money out, put in a note, and left.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 1:05 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #39.1   tjay

      My dad constantly goes out without his wallet. He’s absent-minded that way.

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  • #40   oi bang

    This was the most underdog entry. Who knew. It’s got potential to rank up to vegan, indoor outdoor cats and oh tipping your waiters. Let’s make it!
    How dare dad wrote innocuous note about his own $20? HOW DARE HE?

    Aug 2, 2011 at 1:12 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

     
  • #41   Lucy

    Again, I’m totally Team Dad, and a big part of the reason for this is because I seriously doubt he used clothing to buy bread and cold cuts. I’m a bit worried by the number of commenters who think this is a normal way of buying groceries.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 3:07 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #41.1   Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

      Even if it were the norm to buy grocceries using trousers as payment, I would still be Team Dad. Who could begrudge an old man the basic raw materials of a sandwich? Only a monster, that’s who.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 3:30 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #42   Dr. Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

    Do grocery stores in Canada accept legwear by way of payment? It’s fun learning about other cultures.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 3:28 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

     
  • #43   Kira

    When I was a teenager my mother would always borrow cash from me and leave little IOU notes. I didn’t take it as a personal affront because it was FAMILY borrowing money, and we had an established history of paying each other back. It would be very different if this was a roommate situation. As it stands, I see no reason to think that the note exchange between Laura and her father is anything other than good-natured teasing.

    Aug 2, 2011 at 3:28 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #43.1   Clumber

      … and we had an established history…” and therein lay the difference.

      Aug 2, 2011 at 5:41 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #43.2   kermit

      Clumber, no offense but how the hell do you know what the history is here? There’s nothing to assume that they don’t have a history of paying each other back if they borrow something.

      I would understand the outrage if the daughter took the money without leaving the note, leaving the dad to wonder what happened to his $20. Except she did leave a note, and he humorously responded in kind.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 5:12 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #43.3   TippingCows

      That would tick me off, actually. Anyone borrowing money without asking FIRST is being disrespectful to some degree. One never knows what that other person might have NEEDED and planned out with that money. Even if they didn’t plan, it’s still not cool.

      Aug 7, 2011 at 1:08 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #44   Madrias

    Here’s a situation for those “Oh, it’s okay if you leave a note” people.

    What if her Dad needed that $20 for, say, getting his drivers license renewed? Now that he doesn’t have it, he has to use other money (which could have gone toward other things) to cover it.

    And don’t suddenly spark up with, “Well he could just go to the ATM” cause I’ll shoot you down with “So could she.” Also, contrary to popular belief, parents are not made of money, so self-entitled princess-bitch should have asked him.

    I know for a fact most parents won’t be upset if you wake them up and ask them for a little cash. Annoyed, maybe, but not upset. Worst case scenario is he says no.

    Before someone calls me an old fart, I’m not even yet in my 20′s. Dad may be older than some of your grandparents, but at least I respect my elders. Had I taken cash from Dad’s wallet, not just would I have been made to pay it all back, plus $15 for the trouble, he would have spanked my ass and then grounded me from everything for no less than a month.

    Team “Get your head out of your ass”

    Aug 3, 2011 at 6:50 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #44.1   kermit

      So we can attribute your vitriol to not getting laid, then Madrias, as opposed to neglecting to take your menopause pills?

      Did it ever occur to your teenage brain that maybe the whole reason she left a note is because she couldn’t reach her dad to ask him?

      I don’t know in what boot-camp you were raised, but in my family we trusted each other and, ya know considered each other family. We had a family change jar, too so if you needed to say, do some laundry or purchase a light-bulb for a common area, you had some change to go get one. Amazingly, we also shared a fridge, and gasp – made dishes that other people could also eat if they wanted to instead of say, labeling everything with “don’t touch this, it’s miiine!”
      We could also borrow $20 from one another’s pants, leave a note – with the understanding that we would pay it back soon without incurring such a damn shit storm.

      Aug 3, 2011 at 7:17 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #44.2   Canthz_B bang

      But isn’t a communal petty cash jar very different than a private wallet, kermit?

      Tell me, why would it be harder to track dad down than his wallet? Do most men leave home without their wallets very often?

      But then again, I should also ask if most people think of dad’s wallet as a piggy-bank these days, huh?

      Let’s say there’s not enough money in the family petty cash jar. Is it then alright to steal from mom or dad?

      One should have an expectation that what’s in his or her pants pockets when they removed their pants will be there when the go back for it. An expectation of both privacy and of security. I’d not like someone rifling through my pants pockets or my wallet lest something I may consider more private than my money be found…a note from my doctor, a warning from my employer, the phone number of a known prostitute or whatever the case may be. Even if you don’t consider it to be theft to steal a loan, surely you can understand an invasion of privacy.

      Aug 8, 2011 at 7:46 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #45   pony girl

    On a more important note:

    Just how does one calm their tits?

    Are there classes?
    Need I be licensed?

    Aug 3, 2011 at 8:17 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

     
  • #46   bad mood

    Is this thing still going on? Long story here, last year after April vacation my classroom broom/dust pan went missing. I noticed my folks had several brooms/dustpans in their basement and helped myself. When I told the first grade that “I grabbed these from my mom and dads’ place,” they thought it was totally rude of me. I insisted that my folks had several brooms and would never know this one was missing, but still they insisted that it didn’t belong to me, and I better apologize to them. Kids these days…

    Aug 3, 2011 at 9:36 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #46.1   Canthz_B bang

      Did you explain to the 6 year-olds that used brooms and dustpans from your parents’ basement isn’t the same as if you’d stolen legal tender from their wallets?
      Did you explain why it was impossible for you to purchase such low-cost items for yourself because you are employed and can now buy what you need tor your household without relying on your parents?
      That you can afford to do so because you got enough education to fend for yourself and that’s why it’s important that they take their educations seriously?
      Or was your lesson supposed to be…”If you need something, go see if your mom and dad have spares they happen to be saving and if so help yourself to their belongings?”

      Kids these days seem to have you beat on the moral plane.

      My mom had two ice coolers in her garage. The type you put Ice and sodas into for picnics. I had no cooler, so I asked if I could have one. She informed me that she uses them both when transporting food to her church for the needy, so I bought my own cooler. One I noticed she had about eight cases of bottled water. Rather than help myself to one case, I asked if I could have one and was informed that the water was for the homeless. I bought my own water.

      Ask and ye shall receive. Ye shall receive either a yes or a no…but ask nonetheless.

      Aug 8, 2011 at 8:12 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #46.2   bad mood

      CB, the moral of the story is that my students were correct, and the the adult (me) was wrong. I guess that didn’t come across. I told the class that they were right and even though parents will usually share and love to help their kids, one should not remove items from their home without permission. Man, I can’t believe I had to eat crow twice!

      Aug 8, 2011 at 9:41 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #46.3   Canthz_B bang

      Sorry, I took “kids these days…” as sarcasm, as I’m sure others did without a more clarity given end to the story.

      The moniker “bad mood” probably threw me off a bit in my interpretation of your comment.

      Thanks for that additional info. :-)

      Aug 8, 2011 at 9:50 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #46.4   Canthz_B bang

      More clearly given end…sorry the edit feature is really screwed up lately. :-D

      Aug 8, 2011 at 10:01 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #47   cizzerhand

    When your Dad is the VP he can do whatever he wants.

    Aug 6, 2011 at 1:57 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #48   Trogdoor

    In regards to all the “wtf trade jeans for food?” questions. There are stores that buy used clothing

    Aug 7, 2011 at 6:14 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     

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