Isn’t starting middle school torture enough?

August 21st, 2011 · 69 comments

Hollie in Portland, Oregon spotted this note on the second-floor landing as she was walking up to her apartment.

While I’m usually not in favor of note-leaving when a direct confrontation would do, I give this one a pass — creative spelling and all — because, really, have you ever met a middle schooler without an an attitude? I’d say forcing a kid to make it through eighth grade is enough of an ass-kicking already.

Dear niebors, I'm tiered of you wakeing me up During the night. When I go middle school in two weeks I'm gonna need to wake up at 6:15! Next time you stomp in the middle of the night I'm gonna call the office and tell them about all the times you woke me up, especelly if you make it so I'm late for school! Sincerly, The girl who lives in 346

related: Another Portland teen takes on her noisy neighbors

FILED UNDER: kids · neighbors · noise · Portland

69 responses so far ↓

  • #1   georgina

    Team middle schooler.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 1:31 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #2   polarbearwithredhair bang

    she has more balls than most adults I know

    Aug 21, 2011 at 1:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   Harmy G

      Passive-aggressive balls, no less!

      Aug 22, 2011 at 1:01 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #3   Rattus

    She included an identifier, so good for her, and I’m confident that she will learn the mechanics of communication in middle-school, though somewhat concerned that she hasn’t learned them by this point.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 1:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #4   Jimmy

    from p-town…the next one will definitely have a bird on it.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 1:52 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #5   havingfitz

    Team Kid: at least she seems okay with scented laundry detergent.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 1:57 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #5.1   chrys

      This made me lol.

      Aug 21, 2011 at 11:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #5.2   clumber

      I snort-laughed, thus breaking my carefully honed impression of working.

      [I need the break after having to convince a user that swapping out her monitor would not cause her to lose her desktop photo and icons, nor her network permissions. Yes, I'm serious and don't call me Shirley.]

      Aug 24, 2011 at 1:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #5.3   MrCreepy

      Total snort-laugh, though I have no impression of work to be concerned with, despite actually being at work.

      Aug 25, 2011 at 12:27 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #6   Lindsey

    Looks like someone’s parents didn’t teach them not to give their address to strangers…

    Aug 21, 2011 at 2:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #7   venom47 bang

    I am going to bet that the cowardly parents told the girl to do this. They probaly figure that no one will bother a middle schooler and think they can get away with that. I have never heard of kids being excited that summer vacation is over and school is starting, much less so excited about it they fear they will lose sleep from someones footsteps.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 2:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #8   Sed

    If she’s so tiered, she should really just tell the neighbors to take it down a level or two.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 2:37 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #9   Buck

    I feel for her. One reason I’ll never live a mult-level apartment complex ever again.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 2:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   chemgal

      I will. As long as it is the top floor.

      Aug 21, 2011 at 10:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.2   Mick Jones

      I heard the people who lived on the ceiling
      Scream and fight most scarily.
      Hearing that noise was my first ever feeling.
      That’s how it’s been all around me.

      Aug 22, 2011 at 8:43 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #10   Mia

    Jesus, her spelling is terrible. I can’t imagine a 6th/7th grader (depending on which grade is the first to get counted as “middle school” where she lives) not knowing how to spell things like “tired” and “neighbors” properly.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 3:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   Malexhe

      Sorry to break it to you, but I am in the 11th grade, and many of the kids who go to school with me her look like a genius when it comes to spelling. I know people who can’t spell even spell simple words like ‘college’, ‘phone’, etc,. It drives me insane.

      Aug 21, 2011 at 5:11 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.2   jadefirefly

      In the small town I grew up in, they now move to middle school in 4th grade. So there’s quite a bit of flexibility as to what age she may be.

      Aug 21, 2011 at 9:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.3   The Elf

      Point, but I think that’s the exception rather than the rule. She’s most likely 6th-7th-8th grader who can’t spell.

      But, hey, maybe she’s just too tiered to spell.

      Aug 22, 2011 at 6:16 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.4   Nick

      Was the bookstore out of dictionaries? I get that this may have been written in the heat of the moment, but if you have no idea how to spell a word like ‘neighbor’, then don’t try and wing it. If middle school refers grades 6-8 then this is not acceptable. Stop giving lazy spelling a pass, people.

      Aug 22, 2011 at 11:33 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.5   unsatisfied

      “…school with me her look like a genius when it comes to spelling.”"?

      is it me or does that not make a bit of sense?

      Aug 22, 2011 at 12:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.6   Rhamza

      I think that person meant to say something like this… “In my school, the kids there make her seem like a genius when it comes to spelling, but grammar…damn, my school is top at that!”

      something like that, you know. :P

      Aug 22, 2011 at 6:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.7   Danny

      I work with people who mostly have college degrees in the bachelor-to-masters range, several of whom can not spell. Unfortunately, a substantial segment of this population does not realize that they look like teh dumbz when they employ written communication methods.

      The point, however, is that level o’ schoolin’ has precious little to do with quality o’ spellin’.

      Aug 23, 2011 at 9:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.8   MrCreepy

      Highschool graduate, champeen speller! My best bud can’t spell to save his life, and one of the CNAs working in the hospital I am employed at doesn’t know how to spell ‘thigh’ or ‘gauze’. It’s kind of a sad world we live in.

      Aug 25, 2011 at 12:30 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.9   SoggyCereal

      I know it’s an old list of comments, but I just wanted to ask how is someone expected to look up words in the dictionary if they cannot spell?

      It would take a lot of reading to figure out how to spell tired or neighbor based on this student’s initial attempts.

      Oh, and I don’t get the scented laundry detergent reference.

      Oct 26, 2011 at 12:41 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #11   Shannon

    Her parents are probably making her go to sleep early a couple of weeks before school starts so she can be ready and used to it when she has to get up at 6:15 every day. I hope the “niebors” didn’t take the note wrong and they understand that going from elementary school to middle school is a big deal to a kid.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 3:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #12   Adriana

    I remember when I used to think 6:15 AM was early. The good ol’ days.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 3:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #12.1   aaa bang

      Pfffft, cool kids go to bed at 6:15 am.

      Aug 21, 2011 at 6:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #12.2   The Elf

      That was my first thought, Adriana. 6:15? Enjoy that now, kid.

      Aug 22, 2011 at 6:17 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #12.3   Rhamza

      Yeah, for college last semester I was awake at 4:45 to get to the early classes on time. (6:15 classes are awesome!)

      Aug 22, 2011 at 6:23 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #12.4   clumber

      …and this was one of the triggers to me changing majors from Environmental Science, with a focus on Nuke to Psychology, focus on Social. All the Env classes were frickin 6am. Psych started at a reasonable 8 or 9. Other reasons too and i am delighted with the choice here 20 years later (oh gawd…), but I’m also fine admitting that not being a morning person had a strong part in it as well.

      Aug 24, 2011 at 1:11 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #13   kaledrina

    I’m gonna go “Team Neibors” on this one. My guess is that “stomping around in the middle of the night” is actually them getting up at 4:00 or 5:00 AM and getting ready for WORK.
    Also, because I am immediately biased against anyone who made it to middle school without being able to spell, well, anything.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 4:51 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #13.1   Oh Geeee

      There is a certain age where the inability to spell is as much a statement regarding the quality of education as it is one about the child. This was solid phonetic spelling and she was able to communicate her point. And since communication is the be all end all of letter writing I’d say she has a solid win and you’re being an elitist prick. Making demeaning comments about a child based on his or her ability to spellneighbors… Classy.

      Aug 22, 2011 at 5:21 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #13.2   The Elf

      This might be an adult getting ready to go to work. But a loud neighbor is a loud neighbor. Apartment dwellers should be more considerate between about 9pm and 9am.

      Still, better stomping than music!

      Team kid, reluctantly.

      Aug 22, 2011 at 6:20 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #13.3   kaledrina

      a loud neighbor is a loud neighbor sure, but if all this kid is saying is that the neighbors are “stomping” that’s as likely a product of the building and normal living noise as anything. I’ve lived below people, you hear them walking. especially in uncarpeted apartments, there’s not a lot the people upstairs can do. I used to have downstairs neighbors that would pound on the ceiling if we walked in the kitchen anytime after 9pm. we weren’t stomping, running or walking heavily, we didn’t wear shoes in the apartment. Sometimes, that’s life in an apartment.

      Also, to 13.1: caring about spelling doesn’t make me an elitist prick. Being mean to the girl about it might but I didn’t say anything demeaning about the kid. I said I’m biased by people not being able to spell at an age where I feel like most people would have picked up basic spelling skills. That could very easily be my privilege showing, which I acknowledge (since that would be a bias). You make a good point about it being as much the fault of the education as the educated. I’m still Team Neighbor on the noise though.

      Aug 26, 2011 at 2:07 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #14   ptamom

    Team Middle Schooler. I had a neighbor in college who used to do a full run stomp down the stairs that happened to be next to my bedroom. I had a good chuckle when I heard, stomp, stomp, stomp, stomp, trip, bang, then “UGH”. Nice.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 4:57 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #15   GeekRyuu

    Team Middle Schooler. While the lack of spelling skills is something I find appalling, I’m also aware that I probably have had a far greater level of education in that regard than others and that I probably CARE more about it than most other people.

    Plus, I had neighbors in college that WOULD NOT SHUT UP. Wrestling upstairs at all hours, loud music downstairs at all hours, and me just trying to get quiet time to study or catch a nap before going to class or work. Worse, these were college apartments that were SUPPOSED to go quiet during midterms and finals. Did that matter to THESE jackasses? What do you think?

    Good on you, kid. And remember to pay attention and study hard in your English/composition classes this year.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 5:40 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   Risha

      Some very mysterious noises in college turned out to be the guys above us playing roller hockey.

      Aug 21, 2011 at 11:05 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.2   gladystopia

      “…playing roller hockey…”

      Oh, is that what we’re calling it these days?

      Aug 25, 2011 at 2:32 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.3   GeekRyuu

      Roller hockey? Dear god, did we live in the same complex?

      Aug 25, 2011 at 11:18 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #16   Jaylemeux

    I don’t actually see a lot of attitude in the tone of the note. She was pretty straightforward about it.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 5:59 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #17   aaa bang

    Team aaa. Because I’m awesome. And only losers go to middle school. And stomp around at night.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 6:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   clumber

      Honesty in self-awareness will always get a thumb from me. Maybe even a nibble on a good day.

      Aug 24, 2011 at 1:13 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #18   Morgan

    I kind of love the middle schooler. Her note cracks me up.

    Aug 21, 2011 at 8:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #19   Nicko

    Yo, good on this girl! This isn’t passive-aggressive – it’s just a solid “think of some other people” heads-up. Good job kid!

    Aug 21, 2011 at 10:21 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #20   divaandwriter bang

    Dear Kid,

    You have spunk. I hate spunk! And LEARN HOW TO SPELL!

    Right now bad spelling will only get you poor grades in English class. Later on, it will just make you look illiterate when you are trying to get into college or apply for a job. Yes, I know there is always Spell Check, but that is not completely reliable.


    BTW, having had to put up with noisy neighbors myself, I am Team Kid.

    Aug 22, 2011 at 9:03 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   unsatisfied

      “You have spunk. I hate spunk! ”

      so, now, we know whatever happened to lou grant.

      Aug 22, 2011 at 12:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #20.2   divaandwriter bang

      Yes. He moved to the apartment above the kid in 34G.

      Aug 23, 2011 at 10:07 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #21   SilentPsycho

    Team Middle Schooler. I have no clue what age middle school is, but I can certainly relate to this. I’m currently stuck with a nice neighbour, who just has the unfortunate inability to bathe her kid, aged 7, without singing her head off…between 12:30am and 1am.

    Guess who can hear her, even with their windows shut, and who has work on the days she does this…

    Aug 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #22   AB745

    Tenatively team neighbors. The last apartment I lived in was not exactly sound-proof, so ‘stomping’ could easily translate to ‘walking’. My downstairs neighbor (who was a cop and let us know it!) regularly threatened and harassed us for things like shutting a dresser drawer, walking from room to room, and one time got mad because she could hear the people above US ‘stomping’.

    I support a resident’s right to live in their apartment! Just because she goes to bed early doesn’t mean they have to. I really doubt their hobbies include plain-old stomping in the middle of the night.

    Aug 22, 2011 at 12:51 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #22.1   AptPerson

      At least in my apartment, it’s fairly easy to tell when you are hitting the floorboards enough to make a noise that vibrates through and by walking lighter you can completely avoid it. I have had upstairs neighbors who stomped with every step they took and those who I’ve heard barely anything from (aside from a little bit of loud laughing once in a while, no biggie). While I can understand the occasional misstep or having to move stuff around, constantly slamming your feet on the floor is not a polite way to walk in an apartment, especially if you get up or are still awake very early in the morning. Although if your apartments’ floors really suck that much, I apologize.

      Aug 23, 2011 at 9:55 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #23   GhostWriter bang

    Kid’s got problems. When it’s summertime and you’re 13 years old, you should give middle school a thought, maybe the night before the first day of classes. …two weeks before? She oughtta be doing the midnight stomp herself.

    Aug 22, 2011 at 1:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #24   humorless

    Someone get the kid a fan. There’s truly objectionable noise (partying, roller skating on hardwood, beginner drum lessons) and there’s the noise that’s a product of close quarters. Waking up to the noise is on you, kid, find a way to adjust to it. Sleep with headphones, have a white noise machine, attach foam to the walls and ceilings.

    Aug 22, 2011 at 2:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #24.1   The Elf

      I thoroughly recommend those fixes. My husband is an insomniac/light sleeper whose job has had rotating shifts and permanent midnight shifts. With the right white noise in the background, even he can sleep through some noise. I’m unfortunatly a loud walker and our cats can make a surprising amount of noise for small beasts. Catlike grace my ass. He slept through most of it.

      However, we don’t know, because we don’t live there, if this noise is normal movement noise or if it is particularly loud stomping.

      Aug 23, 2011 at 6:34 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #24.2   jennyrose76

      I don’t recommend those fixes, mainly because of my stepsons’ addiction to the fan. It drives me crazy to hear the fan running, sucking up my electricity in our relatively quiet house, because they’re trained to rely on the fan in order to sleep.
      The best was when, one February night, the fan stopped working in the middle of the night. One of them got up and turned on the air conditioner. We could literally see our breath when we woke up lol Plus, odd as it sounds, white noise drives me bananas. I feel like with white noise, I won’t hear if my kids call for me, or won’t hear a knock on the door or something. Oh, and Team Middle Schooler! lol

      Aug 23, 2011 at 2:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #24.3   Rattus

      Some people are just light sleepers and any noise will wake them – and that isn’t an addiction to a fan. I recommend a white noise machine. You can buy one for about twenty bucks and they use a lot less electricity than a fan.

      Aug 23, 2011 at 7:12 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #24.4   clumber

      Hear! My beloved spouse snores like a landslide. I used to be a “deadlike” sleeper but working a grave shift for 2 years ruined that so now I have a hellofa time getting to sleep. We got a “sleep machine” that has about a dozen different sounds like “rain” “trains” “waterfall” “ocean” that are all just white noise with flavors. Turn that on and give me 5 minutes head start on the spouse, and i’m gone. Once asleep no prob – go to town with the out-of-tune saxophone and elephants wearing tap shoes!
      Team No More Apartment Living!

      Aug 24, 2011 at 1:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #25   Derp

    I kind of love the middle schooler.
    What’s up with all the animosity directed to this kid? Comments like “kids got problems” and “noise is on you kid” just make me picture a fat, grumpy, geezer, grumbling at an ancient computer screen.

    Aug 22, 2011 at 3:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #25.1   GhostWriter bang

      …and comments like, “I kind of love the middle schooler” just make me picture a pedophile who stumbled upon PAN whilst googling “eighth grade ass.”

      Aug 25, 2011 at 3:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #26   Eileen

    Lighten up on the spelling. She’s only eleven, if she’s just starting middle school. She still has time to learn. If she’s still spelling like this when she’s in high school, then she’s got problems.
    And good for her for taking the initiative and addressing the problem herself instead of waiting for her parents to do it. Although if the noise continues, I think someone needs to have a talk with the building manager.

    Aug 22, 2011 at 4:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #27   Cuddlefish

    When you live in an apartment you need to always expect there is going to be a certain level of noise and you need to realize that different people have different schedules. At my old apartment the cops were called on us because someone was playing an acoustic guitar at 8 at night yet I was constantly woken up after 12 hour overnight shifts at 7 am by our neighbors children. Hence why I rent a house now. Apartments suck.

    Aug 22, 2011 at 5:13 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #28   Sarah

    Oh man, I am feeling this kid’s pain. We just got a new upstairs neighbor, and for as skinny a thing as she is, you’d think that she was an elephant from the way she stomps. Before anyone responds QQing about “normal living sounds”, no. The previous tenants we could hear, but it was clearly normal walking/living noises. This girl stomps like her life depends on it, and she tends to do it the most between 11pm-4am… once she starts and wakes us up, we’re prevented from falling back asleep because it’s continuous until as late as 10am. Seriously, I’m not exaggerating: non-stop stomping.

    We’ve currently got the central air going, two fans, a window a/c unit, and an air purifier running to try and drown her out, but it’s no use. She’s that loud.

    She also smokes so much that I’ve had to take to keeping an inhaler by the bed and I don’t even have asthma. How do you even physically smoke that much?!

    Aug 22, 2011 at 6:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #29   gladystopia

    To all the persnickety spellers: there may be a fairly-plausible explanation.

    I used to be an English teacher. In the early ’90s, there was a movement within educational circles, a movement which theorized that students should not concern themselves with spelling correctly (supposedly because worrying how a word is spelled would interrupt the flow of their thoughts and stifle their creativity.) They were encouraged to use “inventive spelling” as they wrote, then proofread their work, going to the dictionary to check the spelling of the words they were uncertain about.

    Since then, of course, much of the “invented spelling” doctrine has been debunked; rather than proofreading their work and improving it in a second draft, many kids would simply hand in their original work, misspellings and all. The “inventive” spelling proponents have largely moved on, but there are still a few diehards who keep the concept alive.

    I’m wondering whether our young note-writer might have been taught to write using this theory–and if so, I hope she encounters a strict, old-school type of teacher who breaks her of her bad spelling habits.

    Aug 23, 2011 at 1:31 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #30   ArmyofWords

    That’s a good explanation gladystopia. I think part of the problem is technology. Kids are getting cell phones and using the internet at a younger age now, resulting in a lot of texting and netspeak. I used to think kids these days were a little stupid, but it’s more likely that they’re just lazy.

    Aug 29, 2011 at 12:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #31   Amy

    I just like the fact that while her spelling may be atrocious, she still grasps the ‘i’ before ‘e’ except after ‘c’ rule when it comes to her attempt at “neighbors”.

    Aug 29, 2011 at 3:09 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #32   tsel bang

    I am really sure that I am on Team Kiddo.

    Kids tend to model their spelling on the examples of people around them. A nice neighbor would re-write her note for her, with proper spelling, as a model. :)

    Sep 5, 2011 at 1:46 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #33   Jordan

    I can’t even read that. I hated grade 8. And 7, and 6… and 5. 3 was pretty bad too.

    Oct 30, 2011 at 11:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #34   Jordan

    If it seems too hard for you just find a good educational source like and you will be alright. This is easy.

    Apr 3, 2018 at 8:49 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #34.1   Unknown

      Yea Honestly I’m still in middle school and my whole school life is meeting new people and them leaving me. I honestly don’t know what new friends are anymore. Everyday I would sit in the bench alone with nobody to talk to. It’s honestly dumb how middle schooler’s act and I wish they would think before they do things. Until I saw this girl I met and wanted to be friends. The thing is i’m a loser with no friends having no potential to even talk to random people so I just gave up. -sighs- I wish school was over already. But I plan to stand up and change my school forever. If people say this new generation is crazy lets make it into the last generation.

      Sep 22, 2018 at 10:41 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up