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#1 Mel

Okay…she’s a friggin’ asshole, but I do feel bad for the cat. I hope it got adopted :\

Feb 5, 2012 at 6:52 pm rating: 252 small thumbs up

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#1.1 Poltergeist

If only she had attempted this on a tiger. I can see her standing inside the cage, holding a head of lettuce, calling the tiger over by name. “Dinnertime Bonecrusher!”

Feb 6, 2012 at 1:03 pm rating: 48
#1.2 Jaguwar

ROFL Even my nine year old gets it!

Tiger: ROOOOAAAARRRR!!!! You ARE dinner because MEAT: It’s what’s for dinner!

smh How idiotic. I mean seriously. When she dies, *something* is gonna dine on her too, doesn’t she realize that? smh

Feb 6, 2012 at 3:58 pm rating: 18
#1.3 Tesselara

My response to this text: “Sweetie, perhaps no one ever told you this, but in future, when you are asking for a favor, you might want to be a touch less insanely rude. I mean, you come off as a bit of an asshat in normal conversation, and in this request, you’ve taken your lovely personality to a special place. Do you think you can tone down the social incompetence? It’s too late to work for me, but it will probably help you find a home for your cat. Oh, and I’m posting this on PassiveAggressiveNotes.com, where everyone now hates you.”

Rotten girl. Gives vegans a bad name.

Feb 7, 2012 at 4:12 pm rating: 102

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#2 lala

Poor kitty. Cats are carnivores, period. I hope it finds a better home!

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#2.1 MayaGold

Actually, there ARE vegetarian cat foods that can completely sustain them, dogs too.

The problem is you can only really feed a cat this if you do it from when its a kitten or they’ll get sick. And its insanely expensive.

Feb 6, 2012 at 8:57 am rating: 11
#2.2 BonzoGal

Incorrect- dogs are omnivores, but cats are obligate carnivores. If you feed a cat a vegetarian diet, you will make it sick. Period.

People who have a problem with meat as a food should not adopt animals that need to eat meat.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:12 am rating: 209
#2.3 redheadwglasses

MayaGold — WRONG. Cats MUST have taurine in their diet in order to live, and that comes from meat.

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:03 pm rating: 85
#2.4 The Elf

Correct. Humans can survive quite nicely on a vegan diet, but cats require animal proteins to live. Don’t believe me, ask Obnoxious Vegan Girl’s many vets that she consulted!

Why didn’t she research this before adopting a cat? That’s just irresponsible.

Feb 6, 2012 at 1:03 pm rating: 98
#2.5 the fattest zombie

No, MayaGold is right, there are vegetarian cat foods with synthetic taurine in them. Normal cat foods usually contain synthetic taurine too since most of the taurine in the meat gets fucked up when it’s processed.

Feb 7, 2012 at 3:16 am rating: 17
#2.6 The Elf

Somehow, I think that “all vets” that OVG consulted would disagree on the appropriateness of a vegan diet for a cat. Apparently, this cat is sick because of her kitty-vegan diet, hence the vet visits and the texts to rehome the cat. “All” implies that OVG visted more than one. So, no. Do not feed your pet carnivore an herbivore diet. Really, I’m stunned that I even have to type that.

Feb 7, 2012 at 7:28 am rating: 46
#2.7 MayaGold

When did anyone say you should? i was just saying there are vegetarian cat foods containing ALL the required nutrients. Amazingly science is actually able to construct such a diet. So it is theoretically possible, if you have the money, to have a vegetarian cat (although i’m not sure its actually vegan. Probably not).

Where i imagine this mental is going wrong is 1. she says ‘adopted a cat’ suggesting full grown adult which should not be switched to vegetarian cat food, even if the apropriate one is purchaced. And 2. i suspect she’s doing what another commentor mentioned and buying it HUMAN vegan food and expecting that to work.

To repeat, with the use of very expensive vegetarian cat food, it is possible to raise a vegetarian cat from a kitten. Possible, but i’m not saying everyone should.

Although if it is an outdoor cat it will probably still catch the occasional small furry, so wont really be veggie at all.

Feb 7, 2012 at 10:18 am rating: 25
#2.8 Alice

But, but, but, how arrogant can a human get to enforce their own standards on an animal? How dare a person *decide* a carnivorous animal should eat only vegetables? Thats abuse…….and as such, Surely thats completely against what vegetarianism would be assumed to support.

Really bizarre.

Feb 7, 2012 at 10:47 am rating: 118
#2.9 The Elf

Technically, Meow Mix is a cat food too. That doesn’t make it good for the kitty.

Feb 7, 2012 at 11:11 am rating: 27
#2.10 Strawberry Creme

Just as an FYI… Synthetic taurine is almost entirely imported from China. Its manufacturing process is not good for the environment, and involves sulfur and other harsh chemicals. They also add synthetic taurine to meat-based cat food (especially cheap dry food) because the high temperatures cook the taurine out of the meat.

Feb 8, 2012 at 2:27 am rating: 23
#2.11 Janipurr

No, Mayagold, there aren’t any vegan cat foods that contain all the required nutrients. Cats require meat protein to produce certain amino acids that other omnivores can manufacture from plant proteins, but cats cannot. That is why they are called “obligate carnivores”. Look up “obligate”. Consult a veterinary dietician if you don’t believe me.

Feb 8, 2012 at 2:59 am rating: 29
#2.12 koalikoon

First–can we just clarify that vegatarian does not equal vegan?

Second–Yes, obligate carnivore does mean they must eat meat. But why? Because cats cannot make certain amino acids for themselves (specifically taurine) so they must obtain them from something else that has made them… other little critters.
This is like how guinea pigs cannot make their own vitamin C. Most people just put vitamins in their water rather than hassle with fruits and such.

BUT–for the purposes of the sorts of people who are worried about feeding vegan diets to cats (I’m not going to *say* crazy people, but I’ll think it) I assume the primary issue is not to feed them bits of other living critters. Taurine can be synthetically manufactured without any living critters involved. (Except humans, I suppose.) This is what vegan catfoods use to replace animal products. (Check out the “VeganCats” website. It’s vaguely terrifying.) The foods meet state requirements, so they can be sold commercially. Nonetheless, the legitimacy and healthiness of these diets is still debatable (and debated).

In conclusion, I now know more about vegan pet food than I ever, ever wanted to.

Feb 8, 2012 at 10:18 am rating: 32
#2.13 Shinobi

Vegetarian cats go blind. It’s worse than what happens when you feed them meow mix.

Feb 10, 2012 at 9:56 am rating: 10
#2.14 Lisap

I have to say I am truly shocked that this idiot took the vets’ advice about the cat’s diet. I am assuming it came after the cat got sick on a vegetarian diet and she begged many vets to tell her there was some other reason and no one gave in. Probably a few lectures thrown in by the vets, too.

My question is if you feel so strongly for animals that you won’t eat them or any of their products why can you not swallow your pride to take care of the animal you adopted and are refusing to take to a shelter?

Feb 11, 2012 at 1:53 pm rating: 21
#2.15 BurnVeritas

Cats are obligate carnivores. Period. Anyone that really cares about their cat would not subject them to a vegan diet–even if it has all the ‘essential nutrients’ to help them survive without going blind and getting fatty liver disease, they will not thrive. Cats don’t derive energy from carbs the way omnivores do, they need real protein. This is why cats that eat crappy grocery store food are usually so obese and unhealthy–cheap grocery store food is mostly wheat and corn. They are also more likely to develop food allergies, kidney, and liver problems.

It does not matter if you start when the cat is young–it’s a horrible idea. Forcing your fanatical ideology on your pet at the expense of their health is nothing but ignorant and selfish, and clearly the act of a self-righteous, self-important idiot. If she felt that strongly about animal welfare, she would not support the pet trade at all.

Feb 29, 2012 at 8:44 pm rating: 20

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#3 Jen

This has got to be a joke. My faith in other humans is too low. I don’t think I can handle there being even one person out there like this.

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#3.1 Palomon

Sorry, Jen, but they’re out there. There are also guys like Mike Arms, so maybe it evens out.
http://www.animalcenter.org/about_hwac/our_president.aspx

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:14 pm rating: 15
#3.2 Leonna

I used to work at a local co-op and I can 100% guarantee that there are people like this. They used to come in and but our vegan hot food for their dogs and cats. And then, months later, their pet would be dead. No joke.

Feb 5, 2012 at 10:08 pm rating: 33
#3.3 LadyIslay

I thought that the “joke” part was where she was asking a favor from someone while insulting them (“primitive diet”, “little meat-eating friends”). Like, wtf?

Feb 5, 2012 at 10:49 pm rating: 92
#3.4 Dr_Know

I wonder if this persons obnoxiousness is separate from their veganism or if there is some kind of causal relationship?

Feb 7, 2012 at 4:08 am rating: 30
#3.5 Jessi

@Dr_Know, the one and only vegan I know isn’t obnoxious and understands that her cat is a true carnivore (meaning, she requires meat protein, and not “synthesized” meat protein in order to live a long a healthy life), so she provides her cat with the proper nutrition.

When she has house parties, she provides non-Vegan foods, as she realizes that most of her friends are omnivorous. Similarly, when I have house parties, I provide a few Vegan-friendly foods, as I’m aware that a few of my friends are vegetarian and one is vegan.

Feb 7, 2012 at 5:25 am rating: 40
#3.6 Dr_Know

We need a large scale study, I think, rather than just a case analysis.

Feb 8, 2012 at 2:09 am rating: 9
#3.7 Gordon

It seems to become more and more clear over te that animals are just plain smarter than humans. Certainly more respectable… Jeez, wtf

Feb 8, 2012 at 5:37 am rating: 5
#3.8 koalikoon

@ Dr. Know: I think obnoxiousness might cause veganism, but veganism definitely doesn’t cause obnoxiousness. I have two vegan friends where I work and they are ridiculously good sports about everything, especially considering we’re in Texas where vegans risk starving to death.

Feb 8, 2012 at 10:26 am rating: 38
#3.9 Dr_Know

I like this hypothesis Koalikoon

Feb 9, 2012 at 2:07 am rating: 0

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#4 thurz

I’m an ex-vegan vegetarian, and I am totally against keeping pets on that kind of diet. That person sounds like an asshole.

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#4.1 a-Arialist

It’s ridiculous, hey? If a human wants to be a vege or vegan, then good for them. It’s bloody stupid, though, trying to force an unnatural eating process on an animal. Cats are carnivores (not omnivores, like us or dogs) and they *must* eat meat. They can’t synthesise various vitamins and must get these from other animals. They can very quickly go blind on a vegan diet for this reason. Keeping a cat on a vegan diet is cruel, and aren’t vegans supposed to be against that?

Feb 6, 2012 at 4:02 am rating: 81
#4.2 MayaGold

dogs arn’t omnivores. To be omnivorous you have to be able to survive in the wild on an entirely plant based diet.

If you’re basing dogs being omnivores on the fact they’ll eat anything, my cat has a fondness for chrisps, chips, cheese and pasta. I joke she was a fat american man in a past life.
One of my past cats enyoyed pastries, particularly the flakey bits off croissants
i’m also relatively certain there’s a youtube video of a cat enjoying watermelon.

Feb 6, 2012 at 9:04 am rating: 5
#4.3 LS

Incorrect: check your facts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnivore

Omnivores are species that can’t survive exclusively on plants or meat. Dogs are specifically listed as omnivores. The article also references why cats are still considered carnivores even though they can and do eat other things (classification has to do with what kinds of things animals actually digest and get nutrients from not what they put in their mouths).

Feb 6, 2012 at 9:14 am rating: 12
#4.4 RandomPerson

You’ve got your definitions mixed up. Herbivores subsist on an entirely plant based diet. Carnivores subsist on an entirely meat based diet. Omnivores (omni – meaning ‘all’) subsist on a diet of both.

Feb 6, 2012 at 10:29 am rating: 53
#4.5 MayaGold

no i haven’t.
yes omnivors eat both, but they dont HAVE to. that’s the point, you can subsist on entirely one or the other, but both is preferable.

It is also defined partially by dentition, humans and pigs have the dentition of omnivores, cows and sheep are herbivores, and dogs and cats are carnivores. its the canines designed to lock into struggling prey that give it away!

Feb 6, 2012 at 10:55 am rating: 7
#4.6 The Elf

Stupidity this deep should hurt.

Feb 6, 2012 at 1:05 pm rating: 42
#4.7 Hotsyhotcakes

@Maya–dogs are omnivores. They are able to survive on a vegetarian diet.

Feb 6, 2012 at 3:30 pm rating: 20
#4.8 rat

I just hope she never has kids
http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet-veganbaby.html

Feb 6, 2012 at 5:55 pm rating: 7
#4.9 Grumbler

Dogs can survive, but not thrive.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:26 pm rating: 7
#4.10 Hotsyhotcakes

True. Not condoning the dog vegetarian diet–just clarifying that dogs are omnivores.

Feb 7, 2012 at 12:43 am rating: 3
#4.11 Kim S.

Dogs are carnivores. They are in the order Carnivora. Just because they CAN and sometimes will eat plants does NOT make them omnivores. It is NECESSARY for them to eat meat, as it is for cats.

Feb 7, 2012 at 8:49 am rating: 16
#4.12 MayaGold

Again, the teeth.

Plant eating herbivores and omnivores are both in possesion of nice flat grindy teeth, your molars and pre molars. These teeth facilitate the proper breakdown of plant matter for digestion. Dogs lack these and therefore cannot be described as true omnivores, regardless of what they choose to eat.

Feb 7, 2012 at 9:32 am rating: 6
#4.13 The Elf

Bears are also members of the order Carnivora. Polar bears eat mostly meat, panda bears eat mostly bamboo. Most other bears have a diet rich in both animal and plant sources.

Being in the order Carnivora does not mean that the beast in question exclusively dines on meat. That is where the term “obligate carnivore” comes in. That means the beast dines exclusively or almost exclusively on meat, like domesticated cats or ferrets. They lack the digestive capability to efficiently handle plant-based material.

Feb 7, 2012 at 9:55 am rating: 18
#4.14 Hannahminah

Just a note wild dogs have been known to live relatively meet free. In environments where prey is scarce wild dogs will survive on stolen eggs and plants, but they like/prefer their meat in nonsurvival situations. Again not advocating vegetarianism for dogs just saying they’re omnivorous.

Feb 7, 2012 at 7:48 pm rating: 4
#4.15 Annaliesa

Domesticated dogs are omnivores, and wild dogs are carnivores.

Domesticated dogs have adapted to being able to digest plant matter. They are in the Carnivora category because that is how they were categorized way back when – and also because they are so genetically similar to wild dogs.

Cats are obligate carnivores. Even if they can receive all of the required nutrients from a food that contains no meat, they cannot necessarily digest it properly. They have shorter digestive tracts, which allows meat to pass through quickly. Vegetable matter needs to be digested more slowly, and thus can wreak havoc on a cat’s digestive system.

I am a vegetarian, and I make an effort to purchase cheeses made with microbial rennet or vegetable rennet. I also buy local eggs and milk from farmers whom are generally kind to their animals. This isn’t always easy to do, considering I don’t live in an area with a wide array of vegetarian/animal welfare-loving foods, but I make an effort.

If someone does not want to contribute to animal cruelty but has a cat, it might be best to purchase meats from a small farmer farmer who allows their animals to be free-range, have a butcher process it and package it for you in small portions, and you can freeze it. Thaw when needed, add vitamins, and voila. This costs a lot upfront, but it is actually cheaper to feed a pet raw food.

If you have a problem taking care of a pet who is a carnivore, there are rescues for birds and smaller animals who are herbivores. Smaller animals can actually be quite loving too, are entertaining to watch, and make good pets.

Honestly, though, adopting a cat is a great thing to do. In my opinion, the kindness of adopting a cat negates it’s need for meat. Cats are overpopulated and are often subject to abuse considerably worse than what the meat industry inflicts on animals for food. Cats are bred to be pets, and their psyche is different than that of a cow, chicken, sheep, etc. Farm animals live short lives, whereas cats may live up to 20 years with injuries sustained in an earlier life (I adopted a cat that was abandoned – he had a severely broken leg that must not have healed correctly).

If you can’t provide your animal with the diet it requires, do not adopt it.

Feb 8, 2012 at 1:45 am rating: 25
#4.16 g

“the kindness of adopting a cat negates it’s need for meat” – sorry, but it doesn’t.

the cat’s digestive tract remains the same, no matter how kind you are to it, obviously.

and, even if you are super-kind to your cat, it will probably go outside and catch mice and birds to play with, because that’s what cats do!

Feb 8, 2012 at 9:34 am rating: 16
#4.17 y

Domestic dogs are carnivores and share 99% DNA with wolves and wild dogs. Domestication has only happened for the last 15k years and we have done nothing to change their digestive tracts. Dogs cannot digest vegetable protein unless it is thoroughly pulverised and broken down. We are not some form of god or evolutionary force that can change their digestive tracts in such a short period of time.

All nutrients needed by dogs and cats can be gained from animals. If you have ever fed your dog peas, carrots or even nuts, you will see peas, carrots and nuts come out intact from the other end. Dogs and cats are carnivores and thrive well on a meat-based diet, which is more bio-available and digestible to them. Artificial commercial processed vegetarian dog or cat food is like us eating synthetic vitamins as sustenance.

Feb 8, 2012 at 11:41 am rating: 1
#4.18 The Elf

Whoa there Annaliesa! You eat cheese made with microbial rennet!? That’s cruelty to molds! Mold is people too! Who speaks for the mold?

Feb 8, 2012 at 12:37 pm rating: 8
#4.19 Seanette

I’m no expert on veganism (too put off by the pushy strident types like ex-roomie in this saga), but aren’t most vegans also enough on the PETA side of the scale to claim “enslaving” animals by having them as pets is also morally objectionable?

Feb 9, 2012 at 4:25 am rating: 7
#4.20 fedos

@g: It looks Annaliesa meant that the good deed of adopting the cat negates what she believes to be the immoral behavior of killing other animals for food, rather than that adopting a cat makes it OK to feed it a vegetarian diet.

Feb 10, 2012 at 12:38 pm rating: 21
#4.21 Luna

MayaGold, the teeth are not your only determinant of what is omnivore vs a carnivore. And unless I’m misinterpreting your comment, you claim that dogs to not have premolars and molars, which is totally incorrect. In fact, because they ARE omnivores, they have more molars than cats do. Cats have a reduced number of molars, because they’re (obligate) carnivores.

I’m a first year veterinary student. Cats being carnivores, and dogs being omnivores is something that EVERY SINGLE ONE of our classes has repeated over and over.

Feb 10, 2012 at 6:53 pm rating: 11
#4.22 MayaGold

yeah at no point did i say dogs didn’t have molars. That would be stupid. molars and premolars are just the teeth at the back of the mouth.

I said they wern’t the flat molars of omnivores.

Find me a pack of wolves that go foraging for carrots, and i will call dogs omnivores.

Feb 11, 2012 at 4:07 am rating: 1
#4.23 Acromion

MayaGold, Wolves (and dogs) are classed as omnivores, and wolves do eat vegetable matter.

When they kill a herbivorous animal, they eat the plant matter in it’s gastrointestinal tract as well as the animal’s body. They get their greens that way, so are classed as omnivores like Luna said. Because the plant has already been chewed by the herbivore, which would have ‘grinding molars’, wolves have no need for them.

Big cats will avoid eating the gut contents of a killed animal, so are truly obligate carnivores.

Also, hi Luna! I’m a vet *vet hi-fives*, welcome to the profession, and good luck with the rest of your studies.

Feb 11, 2012 at 7:40 am rating: 23

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#5 Olivia

It’s tragic; all those legumes wasted to maintain that worthless pulse.

I hope someday she hikes in Yellowstone and a bear chows on down.

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#5.1 infanttyrone

Legumes and pulse in the same clause.

Feb 5, 2012 at 11:32 pm rating: 31
#5.2 Olivia

I know it’s irredeemably dorky, but I couldn’t resist. It was just BEGGING to be done….

Feb 6, 2012 at 6:37 am rating: 6
#5.3 infanttyrone

PAN wouldn’t be the first place I’d go searching for redemption.
But sometimes you can find a little bit of validation here.
It appears that 91 (and climbing) seedy people got it.
Maybe some are Chicago football fans.
No Shredded Wheat and architecture fans, though.
That would be more of your C. W. Post and lintel crowd.

Feb 6, 2012 at 6:55 pm rating: 4
#5.4 Jitty

Bwahaha!!!!

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#6 joshua

Wait, you mean the claws and pointy teeth didn’t evolve to harvest grain?

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#7 Red

I would have told her… “Most of my meat-eating friends don’t eat cat”

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#7.1 Rillion

That is exactly what came to mind for me, reading that!

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:21 pm rating: 23
#7.2 divvitar

FTW!

Feb 6, 2012 at 2:40 am rating: 4
#7.3 merkin4

I’ve had cougar meat. Tastes like a cross between beef and crab – rather sweet. Can’t imagine that the tiny cousin of the mountain lion would taste much different.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:51 am rating: 5
#7.4 Melisa

Me too!! That’s exactly what I thought.

Feb 7, 2012 at 4:56 pm rating: 0
#7.5 GhostWriter

I know lots of guys who eat pussy all the time.

If you’ve eaten a cougar and it tastes like “…a cross between beef and crab” you might have gone one hole low, and started eating booty by accident.

Feb 9, 2012 at 10:47 am rating: 15

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#8 happycatastrophe

I work at a natural pet food store and i have had customers tell me that because they’re vegetarian, their dog or cat is as well. Or that because they don’t eat anything with hooves and claws (fish only) that their dog only eats that. It’s insane. My coworker is a vegetarian and feeds her dog a raw diet

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#8.1 Dr_Know

Bit of a segue…

But what I find really interesting is that a lot of vegans are environmentalists and concerned about animal rights and yet they still have cats and dogs. Maybe they haven’t heard of puppy mills or don’t know that the carbon footprint of a mid-sized dog is equivalent to that of a small car?

Feb 7, 2012 at 4:13 am rating: 5
#8.2 Jessi

Most people concerned about animal rights don’t get their dogs from puppy mills. Don’t shop, adopt!

Also, the one vegan friend I have offsets her “carbon footprint” by not owning a car or eating meat herself. I think she’s covered.

Lastly, the domestic dog only exists because of human beings. Domestic cats only exist because they’ve allowed themselves to be pets*. How does a concern for animal rights equal not having a dog or a cat?

*This sentence was meant to be a silly joke, please take it in the nature in which it was intended.

Feb 7, 2012 at 5:38 am rating: 13
#8.3 The Elf

A joke, Jessi, but one with a ring of truth. There’s a new theory out that cats domesticated themselves. Ancient human civilizations stored their grain harvest, which drew mice and rats. The presence of the vermin drew cats. Humans saw cats eating the mice and realized it was good to keep cats around. Cats figured out that humans = food + shelter, and thus the barn cat was born.

Took them a while to come inside though. And when they did they wanted right back out again.

Feb 7, 2012 at 7:48 am rating: 48
#8.4 Kim S.

Jeez, screw the “carbon footprint”. Hippies need to get with it, just live your life happily without hurting anyone else, how hard is that? These people should be accountants with all their checks and balances.

Feb 7, 2012 at 8:52 am rating: 8
#8.5 MayaGold

Its not a new theory, its a pretty old one that’s accepted by the vast majority of evolutionary archaeologists, just fyi

Feb 7, 2012 at 10:23 am rating: 4
#8.6 Dr_Know

Jessi, where do most of the adopted dogs come from?

Also does that mean I’m just as eco conscious because I don’t have a dog? How bout having neither a dog nor a car…I thought it was being as good to the earth as possible, not just trading off an obvious carbon footprint for a less obvious one?

Feb 8, 2012 at 2:14 am rating: 2
#8.7 Jessi

@Dr_Know, shelters?

You thought what was being as good to the earth as possible?

Feb 9, 2012 at 5:41 am rating: 2
#8.8 Dr_Know

@ Jessi

I was hoping you would continue that thought to it’s logical conclusion but obviously not. Yes they come from shelters…and why are there so many dogs in shelters?

I thought that veganism, and the very frequently related environmentalism, (i.e. the things we have been talking about) was about being as good to the Earth as possible.

Feb 10, 2012 at 5:29 am rating: 2
#8.9 Jessi

Most dogs wind up in shelters due to easily solved behavioral issues. The number one behavioral issue that sends a dog to the shelter? Potty training.

There are so many dogs in shelters because people are morons and get a dog when their lifestyle just isn’t prepared for one (they get a high energy breed, yet they work 18 hours a day and don’t take it for walks, so it eats their house), or they get a lab and just expect it to be a good dog with no training. Did you know that more than 90% of dogs who wind up in shelters because of behavioral issues (which we’ve established as the number one reason a dog winds up in the shelter) have had absolutely zero obedience training?

The pet over-population in this country also winds dogs up in shelters. Yes, puppy mills contribute to this, but idiot owner’s who don’t fix their animals play a large role as well.

In the end, there number of dogs in shelters because their owner’s didn’t really think through getting an animal/didn’t even attempt to get it proper training far outweighs the amount of dogs in there due to puppy mills.

Feb 12, 2012 at 2:37 am rating: 14
#8.10 Michael Z. Williamson

Dr Know: That’s because veganism is the least environmentally friendly diet possible.

On a basis of nutrients and calories per pound, it takes 9 times as much weight of weeds as pure meat. Add in bulk and shorter shelf life, and it’s about 15 times as much (unless you’re processing large amounts of bean protein, which also uses lots of energy).

Rice agriculture uses huge amounts of fresh water, generates 20% of human methane production (half as much as all meat combined, for far less nutrition), and results in the death of trillions of frogs and other aquatic animals during harvest.

The few plants edible to humans require the best arable land, which must be cleared of animals, which means they die, because even “humane” methods displace them to smaller habitats. More are killed in pest control. More are killed in harvest.

Grazed meat (vs grain fed) uses land that’s marginally arable, more efficiently.

Corn is almost as bad as rice for water consumption, and leaches calcium out of the bones, unless it is nixtamalized.

There are proven health issues for most people with wheat, corn, potatoes and some other roots, as well as with soy.

Vegans will refuse to admit their diet is unnatural, unsustainable and illogical, because it is a religion, and their orthodoxy trumps reason.

Feb 22, 2012 at 9:42 pm rating: 21

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#9 MandaT

Do people not do research before they adopt a pet?! Also, how on earth did this person survive without knowing that some people adopt cats simply so that they will take care of a rodent (read: small meaty animal well-suited to kitty consumption) problem?! Wow. Just- wow.

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#9.1 Jenn

Unfortunately, no, people don’t do their research at all… At least she took it to a vet. If only she’d owned it long enough for it to bring her a “gift” like a mouse or bird, haha… I’d pay good money for footage of her reaction.

That last line is ridiculous. I have a hard time believing this chick is for real!

Feb 5, 2012 at 10:26 pm rating: 43
#9.2 Christine

Can you imagine the PANs Obnoxious Vegan Girl would leave the cat?!

Feb 6, 2012 at 1:07 am rating: 24

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#10 Nick

It was said before regarding this notewriter, but bears repeating from our own comments section on the original post.

“I have never wanted to slap someone more than the writer of this note.”

TRUTH.

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:12 pm rating: 121 small thumbs up

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#10.1 Atheist Scum Unite!

I’m actually kind of shocked the exchange ends right there. Right after “thanks for being super helpful as always,” how about, “You’re so welcome! Thanks for being, as always, the most obnoxious schmuck I know! Btw, let’s meet for ‘coffee’ soon! And by ‘coffee,’ I mean, I’m going to beat your fucking ass. Toodles!”

Feb 7, 2012 at 8:51 am rating: 16

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#11 Not a shitty vegan

Cats are carnivorous. There’s nothing to be done about that, and feeding them a mostly grain/veggie diet is bad for them. This chick is just an awful person. Any doctrine she subscribed to would suffer from her membership.

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:17 pm rating: 80 small thumbs up

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#11.1 quigrey

me and the boyf (also not shitty vegans) have laughed over this crazy woman over and over again. where does this chick get all of her anger? eat some kale, do some yoga, chill.

I understand that not everyone is willing to give up bacon, just like I understand that CHOOSING not to eat meat is an alternative. to be a see-you-next-tuesday makes those obnoxious types want to go eat a steak even more.

Feb 5, 2012 at 8:20 pm rating: 20
#11.2 Kim

She would probably be offended by being called a “chick.” It is an animal, after all.

Feb 6, 2012 at 1:27 pm rating: 6
#11.3 quigrey

well… my boyf still eats pussy, so he’s a verrrrrry BAD vegan.

;D

Feb 6, 2012 at 10:45 pm rating: 14

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#12 Jeannie E.

For the record, I’m a vegetarian with two cats, and they eat nothing but raw flesh! (Well, one of them also loves strawberries.) Though I get mildly grossed out by their food, I’d never try to get them to convert — they’re furry, sweet, vicious carnivores. It’s their nature. This woman is ridiculous and ignorant (though also great comedy fodder). I hope the cat found a much better home.

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#13 Stephica

What a twat. I’m a vegetarian who has birds, that way I don’t have to feel guilty about buying meat food for a cat.

And if I had a cat or dog, I’d feed it a healthy diet, which includes meat.

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#13.1 a-Arialist

For a cat, a healthy diet *is* meat – they should eat almost nothing else. Dogs are omnivores and can happily and healthily eat a variety of non-meat foods.

Feb 6, 2012 at 4:06 am rating: 10
#13.2 secretrebel

Stephica was right about “contains meat”. I feed my cat on Hill’s Science Plan dried food which comes recommended by my vet. It’s a complete balanced diet for cats and contains meat rather than being simply meat alone which would not be sufficient for health.

Feb 6, 2012 at 7:19 am rating: 4
#13.3 Dewprisms

Actually there have been several studies that have linked Science Diet to kidney failure in cats. There are much better brands out there. Many vets recommend Science Diet because it’s not as terrible as Meow Mix and they are paid a kickback from the company to advertise and recommend their product.

Feb 6, 2012 at 2:02 pm rating: 27
#13.4 Jessi

@secretrebel, you called it “Science Plan” which leads me to believe you don’t live in the U.S. because 1.) this is the internet, 2.) because it’s called “Science Diet” here in the states and 3.) because I saw a documentary about overweight dogs in Great Britain, and “Science Plan” was the label on foods I knew to be “Science Diet”. I mention this because I don’t know if different countries have different requirements for the same food from the same company (I wouldn’t doubt it), but here in the states, Science Diet is over-priced and pretty crappy.

Corn is the main ingredient in a lot of their food here. In fact, one variety of Science Diet for dogs has the exact same first four ingredients as a bag of Beneful. If you don’t know what Beneful is, it’s basically like feeding your animal MacDonald’s every day of it’s life. Did you ever see Supersize Me?

Feb 7, 2012 at 5:51 am rating: 5
#13.5 Kim S.

Dogs are not omnivores. Just because they CAN eat plants does not mean they are omnivores. Cats also sometimes eat grass, that doesn’t make them omnivores.

Feb 7, 2012 at 8:56 am rating: 1
#13.6 MayaGold

Its relatively likely hills science plan does not contain the same as science diet, just the same as our mars bars dont taste the same as yours and we cant buy anything with high fructose corn syrup in it that hasn’t been shipped from the US. Science plan is relatively healthy, and not especially expensive. Not that its cheap, but no branded cat food is! The problem with it is it doesn’t come in very many flavours and my cats got bored!

Also i think the company that makes it also does some pretty unpleasent animal experiments, so its not a good choice for animal lovers!

Feb 7, 2012 at 9:47 am rating: 1
#13.7 NerfWarrior

I did a quick search on the Hill’s UK site for ingredients:
Hill’s™ Science Plan™ Feline Adult with Ocean Fish : Pork (difficult protein to digest), mackerel, pork liver, wheat flour (the kind you have in your kitchen), animal fat, maize flour (corn), ground maize (more corn), cellulose (code: sawdust – pure indigestible filler), digest (rendered unidentifiable tissue – usually means things like tumors and rotten meat, can be ANY type of meat, including cat), calcium sulphate, dried yeast, iron oxide, iodised salt, taurine, potassium chloride, DL-methionine, dicalcium phosphate, vitamins and trace elements.

Basically the only really usable thing in there is the mackerel, and that’s probably all heads and fins.

Hill’s™ Science Plan™ Feline Sterilised Cat Mature Adult Chicken :
Maize, rice, poultry meat meal, maize gluten meal, digest, animal fat, fish oil, potassium chloride, calcium carbonate, vegetable oil, salt

Nope. Not any healthier than the US version at all. Sorry.

Feb 9, 2012 at 1:44 am rating: 5
#13.8 Jessi

@Kim S. Cats eat grass in order to help themselves throw up hairballs.

Dogs eat fruits and vegetables because it’s a requirement in their diet. The fact that dogs are attracted to sweet tasting things, while cats are not, is some proof of this fact.

Feb 9, 2012 at 5:49 am rating: 1
#13.9 Christine

Science Diet and Science Plan are absolute CRAP foods. The only reason vets recommend it is because the 2-3 hours of nutritional instruction they get at vet school (yep, 2-3 hours, thassit) is by Hill’s. Who make Science Diet and Science Plan. Or sometimes it’s done by Medi-Cal, who makes Medi-Cal and Royal Canin, and sometimes it’s done by P&G who make Eukanuba and Iams. The vets were right by telling this girl to not put her cat on a vegan diet, but to be honest, most vets know next to nothing about proper nutrition.

Feb 11, 2012 at 5:39 pm rating: 2

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#14 Person

I wonder why it took the omni 30 minutes to reply. She screen capped the first text a minute after receiving it. Deciding whether or not to get reply at all maybe?

But honestly, it’s an asshole move to just dump your cat.

Just out of curiosity I googled “vegan cat” and there are apparently some people out there who think it’s possible to raise a healthy vegan cat. =/

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:18 pm rating: 14 small thumbs up

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#14.1 Dewprisms

There are also people out there that think doing nothing but drinking water and sitting in the sun is a perfectly acceptable way to ‘eat’ and keep themselves sustained. People are stupid sheep.

Feb 6, 2012 at 2:03 pm rating: 17
#14.2 quigrey

huhwut? we can’t photosynthesize?

Feb 6, 2012 at 10:46 pm rating: 18

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#15 ha ha hee hee

Does she believes she’s some vegan goddess who can transform the world one species at a time to veganism? Damn, least she could have done was do her basic homework on the cat’s diet before getting it. She’s a tool for thinking she could change in a short space of time what evolution took millions of years to create. Some animals eat meat, get over it. There’s a food chain for a friggin’ reason.

I just don’t get her. Her beliefs aside, it’s her attitude that wouldn’t even make people want to associate with her as a person. I can predict her future and this whacko is going to end up a veggie-loving spinster. Instead of being ‘that old cat lady’, she’ll be ‘crazy vegan bunny lady’. The writing is on the wall!

Kudos to the submitter not responding nastily – got class! I don’t even know the fanatic and already I want to smack her into next week.

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#15.1 Person

This website is all about raising vegan cats

http://www.vegancats.com/pages/1007/FAQ.htm

They recommend still feeding cats some meat , but one of their questions say it’s possible to raise a 100% vegan cat.

Even if it were possible, I’m willing to bet those are some miserable, hopeless cats.

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:25 pm rating: 27
#15.2 MissZoeLaLa

That website is full of crap. As a vet nurse, I can tell you that no cat can be healthy on a vegan diet. They are carnivores, they HAVE to eat meat or they will get very ill and die.

I think I need to email that website.
*gets soapbox*

Feb 6, 2012 at 1:57 am rating: 55
#15.3 Shelley

Ahhhh nooo that website is evil and lying, no way there are thousands of happy healthy cats out there not eating meat. I’ve studied animal nutrition at length. Cats can not be vegan, cats need taurine to survive, they must eat meat or they will die! Taurine is an essential amino acid that cats can’t synthesise on their own like most other mammals, with out it they will get very sick and die without vet intervention. Very upsetting to read this. Silly people need educating. They should suggest buy free range fish and meat so they know where the meat comes from. Totally support the right to be vegan but to enforce it on an animal that can’t survive without animal products is exactly opposite of why these people choose to be vegan. Madness.

Although a dog could survive without meat I imagine it wouldn’t be a very healthy dog either. Lacking in energy and muscle tone. Sad thought.

Feb 6, 2012 at 5:08 am rating: 28
#15.4 MayaGold

Taurine is easily and regularly synthsised artificially and can be found in most energy drinks.

I’m not saying give energy drinks to cats, i’m just saying theoretically you COULD suppliment a diet with it.

Feb 6, 2012 at 9:09 am rating: 5
#15.5 Jessi

@Maya, or you could just feed the animal the food it has evolved to eat in order to properly sustain itself. Or, if you’re not prepared to do that, you could not own an animal that requires meat protein in order to survive and abuse it by denying said protein.

Feb 7, 2012 at 5:57 am rating: 20
#15.6 Manda

Yes, because it’s so good to work around that healthy, natural meat by pumping your animal full of synthetic chemicals. Isn’t that what the vegans are all about? For the record, I’m an omnivore with a happy, healthy omnivorous dog who eats Costco dog food and vegetables.

Feb 7, 2012 at 6:35 am rating: 17
#15.7 MayaGold

I wasn’t advocating making cats vegan, my vegetarian mother has taken to treating my cat like a princess and buying her full price meat (which i do think may be mental), i was just saying if taurine was the only obsticle its not actually and obsticle.

Also i dont think supplimenting a synthesised natural acid counts as ‘pumping full of chemicals’ – unless of course you think all sythtesised natual elements are evil? Most diabetics live on synthesised hormones…

Feb 7, 2012 at 9:40 am rating: 3
#15.8 Reboot

@Maya Yes, most diabetics live on synthesised hormones that we can develop intolerances to, resistances to, and that are not as effective as natural insulin. Also, diabetes is an illness; a cat being an obligate carnivore is not. Why replace something that works with something that doesn’t work as well when there’s no need to?

Feb 9, 2012 at 9:56 pm rating: 7
#15.9 MayaGold

you do know the vast majority of meat based cat foods have synthetic taurine in them right? So a vegetarian one is no different on that front.

Again, not arguing for vegetarian cats, simply stating it is possible.

Feb 11, 2012 at 4:13 am rating: 0
#15.10 Jessi

@Manda, do you feed the Kirkland’s Signature brand (I believe that’s what it’s called)? That stuff is amazing, and insanely cheap! I had my dogs on Blue Buffalo (I used to get amazing coupons from them) for most of their life due to their multiple food allergies (I love Pit Bulls, but they are so prone to allergies!), until I discovered the Costco food by accident one day. Unless they change their ingredients, or it gets extremely pricey, my girls are on it for life!

Feb 12, 2012 at 2:50 am rating: 1

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#16 Junebug

“Sure! I’ll take your cat. I love cats. They’re a very lean meat. Great in tacos.”

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:20 pm rating: 54 small thumbs up

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#16.1 quat

Taco cat. It’s a palindrome.

Feb 5, 2012 at 9:23 pm rating: 173
#16.2 Robert

Sliced thin and put on a Ritz? Delicious. When can I pick him up?

Feb 6, 2012 at 10:30 am rating: 4

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#17 kendall

She probably did what I do with texts from assholes I don’t speak to anymore: screencap and then send to everyone who knows the history with a note
(“THIS. BITCH.”) and wait for feedback before replying.

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:21 pm rating: 33 small thumbs up

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#18 anysnail

i’m vegetarian and i don’t like that i have to buy my dog meat food. so i make up for it by getting him all organic whatever. he eats better than i do!

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#18.1 shesajem

You realise that is ridiculous right?

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:13 am rating: 36
#18.2 Sura

Whats’s ridiculous about any of that?

Feb 6, 2012 at 7:53 am rating: 12
#18.3 Caitlin

Wait, do you mean that even though you feel guilty buying him meat, you still do but make sure it was meat that was raised organically so that it wasn’t factory-farmed in miserable conditions? Or do you mean you try to make up for his meat-free diet by making sure the ridiculous vegan food he eats is organic? Your “whatever” is not exactly very helpful.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:00 am rating: 9
#18.4 redheadwglasses

I did the same thing when I made homemade food for my dog. Hamburger from humanely raised, organically fed cows costs $6/pound. Not cheap. but it made me feel better about the cows AND the food my dog was eating.

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:09 pm rating: 13
#18.5 Jessi

@shesajem, I agree with Sura, what’s ridiculous about buying organic food?

@Caitlin, anysnail was clearly stating that, while she might find buying her pet meat based food a bit gross, she feels a bit better buying meat based food which is organic and not factory raised.

Feb 7, 2012 at 6:04 am rating: 4
#18.6 Ann

Uh… “organic” does not mean it wasn’t factory raised. It means no chemicals. Maybe they give the animals a bit more space so they don’t get the infections that require antibiotics, but organic =/= free range in any legal, enforceable sense.

Feb 28, 2012 at 9:54 pm rating: 1

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#19 Rectangle bang

“Obnoxious vegan girl”

What an incredibly fitting contact name. 8/10; you’ll need to add a few colorful adjectives to the name if you want a 9/10, and you’ll have to upload pictures of you knocking her unconscious on at least 2 different occasions if you want a 10/10.

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:32 pm rating: 13 small thumbs up

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#20 ysabet

Wow. Just….. wow. The term “shallow as a shower” comes to mind. And if she thinks bunnies don’t bite when they’re scared or angry, she’s gonna have an interesting time ahead of her. Carnivores, no; aggressive, occasionally yes.

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:33 pm rating: 27 small thumbs up

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#20.1 jadefirefly

Plus, bunnies smell AWFUL. I love the furry little bastards but they stink to high heaven. Good luck keeping that in a roommate environment.

Feb 5, 2012 at 8:15 pm rating: 16
#20.2 Lana

Agreed. My rabbit is a real stinker. I feel bad for the poor bunny she adopts. She’s obviously not the kind of person who actually researches what to do with a pet ahead of time.

Feb 5, 2012 at 8:56 pm rating: 17

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#21 George P

For me it’s not so much the cat part but the way she is such an asshole when she’s asking for a favor. “Primitive” and “little meat eating friends” is no way to ask for help.

I’ve given my cat canned food that had tiny chunks of vegetables in it, and she’s successfully eaten around them. There are just little orange cubes in the bowl when she’s done.

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#21.1 pamela

I particularly liked the sarcastic “Thanks for being super-useful as always!”.

Feb 5, 2012 at 10:15 pm rating: 30
#21.2 mutzali

You notice she says, “useful” rather than “helpful”. That says a lot.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:29 am rating: 47
#21.3 redheadwglasses

Ha! My cats do the same thing. I gave them some leftover homemade chicken pot pie one day and they left behind the peas and carrots — licked completely clean of the gravy.

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:10 pm rating: 11
#21.4 GYunge

Seriously! Does this woman have no social skills?
I hope she never has kids. Would she refuse to give her baby milk in order to make it vegan?

Feb 7, 2012 at 9:32 am rating: 10
#21.5 Dr_Know

My old cat used to get into the garbage bin to pull out corn cobs and gnaw on them…strange fella

Feb 8, 2012 at 2:20 am rating: 2
#21.6 malski

If you eat corn on the cob like me (drenched in butter)… it might explain a few things.

Feb 9, 2012 at 1:58 pm rating: 3

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#22 T'laryth Phalyn

Things like this piss me off to no end. Do NOT get pets of any kind if you do not understand nor support their very natural needs in their diets. Cats will eat random bits from time to time but they are obligate carnivores. Dogs, while not strict carnivores, do best on grain-free diets where meat is the main ingredient (real meat should be the first four items listed). Anyone who tries to make dogs and cats vegan or vegetarian need to NEVER own either type of animal. That poor cat is going to have so very many problems with his/her health because of this nutjob. Hm, I need to go cuddle with my furballs now.

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:38 pm rating: 44 small thumbs up

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#22.1 Jessi

I’ll preface my comment by saying that I know this is a very rare thing to happen to a dog, but I had a student in one of my classes (I’m a dog trainer), who was allergic to most meat proteins. She couldn’t handle the meats most commonly found in kibble dog foods, so she had to be put on a prescription diet (I think it was rabbit based, but I’m not sure). Well, that got to be extremely expensive, and her owner’s were told to put her on a vegetarian diet (we sell vegetarian dog food where I work). It’s still expensive, but it cut their monthly food bill for her in half. So, not all people who put their dogs on vegetarian diets are evil people.

Feb 5, 2012 at 10:51 pm rating: 19
#22.2 Jordie

Dogs have been proven to be able to live quite happily on an omnivore or vegetarian diet. Their ancestors were primarily scavengers who ate what they could.

Cats, however, are different. Big cats were born hunters and required a diet much more rich in protein than wolves ever did. That’s the big difference. C:

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:00 am rating: 13
#22.3 MayaGold

Big cats today arn’t the ancestors of domestic cats, they’re cousins, not decendants. Just to be clear.

Feb 6, 2012 at 9:12 am rating: 4
#22.4 The Elf

The ancestor of the domestic cat is the Near Eastern Wildcat. They are obligate carnivores, hunting not scavenging animals. I don’t think you’ll find one of them chowing down on a veggie burger. The difference between the domesticated cat and the wildcat is minimal, much smaller than the difference between a poodle and a wolf. It is reasonable to assume that the natural diet of the wildcat would be similar to the ideal diet of the domesticated cat: mouse.

Feb 7, 2012 at 7:59 am rating: 5
#22.5 MayaGold

i know, i just cba writing all you just wrote!

i just didn’t want people thinking lions were the ancestors of pet cats – there are already enough people who think we evolved from chimpanzees, no need to make the problem worse!

Feb 7, 2012 at 9:54 am rating: 1
#22.6 T'laryth Phalyn

@Jessi – Yeah, I’ve seen cases like that. Under veterinarian care and direction sure, fine. Things happen and I understand those cases (poor pups!). I know a woman who has the same problem going on but was able to have her pup on rabbit.

@Jordie – As with what Jessi said, under veterinarian care I can see it but anyone who pushes a vegi/vegan diet on a dog (or cat) just because they don’t like meat should NEVER have pets. You do what’s right for the animal or you don’t have one. No dogs choose veggies or grains over meat when given the option.

Feb 7, 2012 at 5:31 pm rating: 8

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#23 finette

So much for her concern for animals, huh? Dumping your pet because you’re too stupid to do your research *before* getting it is not a very humane thing to do.

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#23.1 OoogaBooga

It’s disgusting that she is so “compassionate” towards animals that other people consume, but when it comes to a pet, who most people would love and want to be healthy, she treats the poor cat like crap! I’m a vegetarian, but would NEVER do that to an animal. I wouldn’t feel bad about feeding the animal what it needs to survive and stay healthy. I can get by without meat, but a dog or cat cannot.

The way she refers to the cat as “it” also disgusts me. She’s the cat’s owner and surely knows whether it’s a he or she. “It” sounds like she completely hates the thing for being a meat eater.

Not to say this person is doing the wrong thing by not taking the cat, but if it were me, I’d take it just to get healthy and take the time to find a good home for it. Poor thing is probably on the verge of death.

I bet this vegan C you next Tuesday is a supporter of PETA, too. Appalling.

Feb 5, 2012 at 10:29 pm rating: 55

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#24 Crazyskates

What gets me is that Vegangirl was being snarky while asking for a favor! I feel like strolling the streets of Brooklyn in the hopes of finding her and spilling bacon on her Hemp shoes.

On another note, how does she get along in the real world? She can’t work with normal people. I would be sure to sit my bacon-wrapped ham & cheese on top of her tofu EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:42 pm rating: 70 small thumbs up

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#24.1 WTF

Exactly! If you want someone to adopt your pet, why insult them in the process? She’s gone off the deep end.

I know a Christian like this. She tries to be polite, but even then, she comes across as a huge twat. It’s like she can’t possibly be nice, because being nice would be conceding that you’re not so evil after all.

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:46 pm rating: 44
#24.2 quat

That would be such a waste of bacon! Can you carry around a baggie of bacon grease instead?

Feb 5, 2012 at 9:26 pm rating: 13
#24.3 OoogaBooga

WTF,
I’m an atheist and it’s not that I go around declaring it to the world, but I do have many “likes” on Facebook that suggest I’m not a theist. I know a few people, including family members, who are VERY Christian, know I’m not from Facebook, and constantly tell me they’re praying for me and that God loves me. I get the condescending remarks from them constantly. These family members have confronted my parents about how “amoral” I am and that I need to embrace Jesus. My parents explain that I’m actually more moral than these family members (they go to church, but besides that, really do nothing that Jesus would be proud of – he’d probably be ashamed to have them in his club) and basically tell them to F-off.

Feb 5, 2012 at 10:36 pm rating: 38
#24.4 Jordie

Please, oh please, don’t turn this into a religious debate. ;~; As an agnostic, I can attest to knowing just as many obnoxious atheists as Christians. I feel bad when perfectly innocent topics always go back to this – can’t we keep theology out of the conversation for once?

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:03 am rating: 81
#24.5 Dr_Know

Jordie, just wondering why you brought up being an agnostic? You know that doesn’t make you automatically objective right?

Feb 8, 2012 at 2:25 am rating: 9

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#25 wildturkey55

Just why, Obnoxious Vegan Girl, are you attempting to amend the laws of nature by decree?

You want a herbivore – get a hamster. Sheesh.

Cats are carnivores – period. They must have taurine in their diets to maintain health, as they cannot synthesize it (and if you drink Red Bull, therefore, you are NOT a vegan, by the way).

Sure, some dry cat foods are corn-based, but they all have chicken, liver, beef, fish, etc.

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#25.1 Jessi

Hamsters are omnivorous, too! They love the occasional insect or tiny bit of meat.

Feb 5, 2012 at 10:59 pm rating: 11
#25.2 Shelley

Yeah my hamster loves a meal worm now and then. Good form of protein

Feb 6, 2012 at 5:11 am rating: 6
#25.3 Schmool

This vegan chick is awful. However, you’re safe as a vegan if you drink Red Bull. Taurine can, in fact, be synthetically derived, and that’s how Red Bull does it. Google “red bull taurine” for proof. I’m not endorsing Red Bull, however. That stuff is gross.

Feb 6, 2012 at 8:21 am rating: 6
#25.4 MayaGold

Taurine in engergy drinks is not animal based. People can synthesise that shit.

Feb 6, 2012 at 9:14 am rating: 2
#25.5 it's naptime

@wildturkey
I had two hamsters once. One of them died and I woke up to the other one eating the corpse.

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:53 pm rating: 12
#25.6 Furtive lurker

Rodent zombieism!

Remember, when it comes after you, head shots are critical to stopping them.

Feb 8, 2012 at 9:45 am rating: 6
#25.7 it's naptime

what’s really awsome is that they were named tom and jerry, and tom was the dead one.

Feb 8, 2012 at 8:36 pm rating: 5

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#26 sadie kate

If Obnoxious Vegan Girl cared so much about animals, she would do 2 minutes of research and realize that cats are obligate carnivores, and will suffer horrible health problems if they don’t eat meat. Hell, I used to make my own cat food at home when one of my cats was having food sensitivity issues that made her sick, and it’s not just a matter of cooking up some chicken; you need to grind up the animal bones too, because cats need the taurine. It wasn’t pleasant, but I made a commitment to take care of my animals, so that’s what I did. As far as I’m concerned, I get the moral high ground over the Obnoxious Vegan Girl.

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#26.1 WTF

There are a lot of vegetarians/vegans who “do their research” and still assume that they can raise animals who are carnivores on a vegetarian/vegan diet.

Feb 5, 2012 at 7:49 pm rating: 5

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#27 jen

what the fuck? i’m a semi-vegan (will eat organic dairy from free range farms) and that baffles my mind. sounds like she has something wrong with her head. why would you be a vegan, and then want to purposely hurt an animal (by putting it on an unnatural and unhealthy diet?) what a twit, if this is real.

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#27.1 DJ

Isn’t semi-vegan just being a vegetarian?

Feb 7, 2012 at 1:06 am rating: 5
#27.2 L

A picky vegetarian at that

Feb 8, 2012 at 1:44 pm rating: 4

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#28 Quite Contrary

Obnoxious Vegan Girl needs a healthy serving of self awareness. Served rare.

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#29 Really?

I’m a vegetarian with two omnivorous cats and an omnivorous dog. I feed them the food that they need to eat in order to survive. Not all vegetarians/vegans are morons.

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#29.1 jadefirefly

We know this. However you’re not the idiot in question in this post. Leave us to our relentless idiot-bashing in peace.

Feb 5, 2012 at 8:17 pm rating: 49
#29.2 ScienceGeek

Amen. I’m a veg head with a omnivorous husband and a cat that should be a carnivore except the little thieving rat-bag is so obsessed with corn-chips, I’m going to have to say he’s omni too.

It’s condescending people like this (‘little meat-eating friends’ when you’re asking a favour? Seriously?!) who make the rest of us look bad.

Feb 5, 2012 at 8:24 pm rating: 37
#29.3 Really?

jadefirefly, I didn’t say anything against the people bashing this moron, did I? If you read my comment that way, you should reread it without any preconceived notions.

ScienceGeek, I completely agree! It bugs me so much when I hear a veg or vegan person being condescending. There is just no point. And, yeah, I said my cats and dog were omnivorous because one cat loves bread, the other loves Cheerios and my dog loves carrots.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:48 am rating: 6
#29.4 The Elf

One of my cats eats plastic and rubber. What does that make him?

Feb 7, 2012 at 11:22 am rating: 4
#29.5 Pockets

A cat with Pica.

Feb 7, 2012 at 1:48 pm rating: 15
#29.6 The Elf

I like to call him “Expensive surgery waiting to happen.”

Feb 8, 2012 at 7:34 am rating: 12
#29.7 Really?

The Elf, my fat cat chews on and tries to eat plastic bags that have contained food of any kind. Cats can be so strange!

Feb 8, 2012 at 2:00 pm rating: 2

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#30 linda

Wow, what an asshat!

Feb 5, 2012 at 8:08 pm rating: 6 small thumbs up

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#31 anne knitter

resisting urge to strangle obnoxious vegan girl. She is making the rest of us look bad.

What would she do if the cat brought her a mouse as a pressie?

Mine brought be a bird and a mouse. My cat does not understand vegetarian she thinks I am am a bad hunter. I am just happy she keeps the pest population down.

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#31.1 ddk23

LOL I kind of wonder what animals think of our hunting styles.
We had a mouse problem in our old house. Our cat caught one, then my husband trapped a few more (…and ickk….we did move)….I think she got pissed that he was able to catch more so she stopped “hunting”

Feb 6, 2012 at 8:56 pm rating: 3

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#32 Midnight

She just sounds like a total loonyloop to me…who gives vegans a bad name

Feb 5, 2012 at 8:22 pm rating: 9 small thumbs up

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#33 Christa

Oh, what an obnoxious person! I am a vegan owner of a cat, feeding my cat high-quality, meaty tinned and dry cat food and some fresh here and there. I didn’t really think twice about the fact that cats thrive with meat in their diets, while considering adopting an animal. I believe it’s in their nature, and even if my cat loves coconut, and tries to steal it from my plate whenever possible, I’m sure if I put a bowl of coconut milk, and a bowl of chicken livers side by side & let him choose, he’d go straight for the meat!

The 2 big annoying points for me here are 1) this idiot woman irresponsibly doing too little research before adopting an animal, and 2) the way she is giving vegans a bad name! The nice vegans hate nothing more than the self-riteous vegans. I think this post is simultaneously hilarious and awful, but I hesitate to spread it via social media because I would hate for anyone to blame the vegans for this one!

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#34 Becca

I’ve been a vegetarian since 4th grade and I would never treat someone like this girl has treated her roommate. I don’t judge people based on what they eat and would never preach about not eating meat or think I’m better than you because I don’t. It’s even more sickening that she is hurting an animal over her beliefs…isn’t that the point of being vegetarian?? This girl and other vegans/vegetarians like her make the rest of us look bad. We’re not all assholes.

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#35 tiggyt

“I want to give it up and get a bunny”
What is she, a FIVE-year-old?

Then saying “really don’t want it around me anymore” which comes off as “I’m kind of disgusted by it.” What a horrible, self-centred person. Not surprised nobody responds to her on facebook, probably even the poor hungry cat wouldn’t lower itself to befriending her if she were rolling around slathered in tuna chunks.

Feb 5, 2012 at 8:32 pm rating: 45 small thumbs up

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#35.1 a-Arialist

I know! I’ve got visions of the cat going to sit on her lap for a cuddle and being picked up, carried at arms length and locked in a room by itself, for the crime of being a carnivore. Poor wee bugger.

Feb 6, 2012 at 4:23 am rating: 31
#35.2 Furtive lurker

Maybe she should just stick to plants. I don’t think she’s much of a pet person.

Feb 8, 2012 at 9:42 am rating: 9

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#36 Lupita

I don’t understand how the victim of obnoxious vegan girl hasn’t fucking painted her walls with meat. I’d have said ‘you’re wecome, bitch’, at the very very very very least, as any primitive person would have .

Feb 5, 2012 at 8:34 pm rating: 14 small thumbs up

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#37 debkatz

I’m tempted to kidnap her and feed her own feces and when she barfs that up, feed it to her again. I’ll justify it by saying that it’s what my little obnoxious feces-eating friends eat and therefore it’s good enough for her. Eh, I just made myself sick. Yeesh, she must be stopped.

Feb 5, 2012 at 8:37 pm rating: 7 small thumbs up

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#38 Ace of Space

The proper response would have been “fuck you”.

Feb 5, 2012 at 8:38 pm rating: 11 small thumbs up

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#38.1 Gordon

Amen- ’nuff said!!:)

Feb 8, 2012 at 6:03 am rating: 0
#38.2 Julesagain

“Fuck you.
Primitively yours,
The Carnivore”

Feb 9, 2012 at 5:19 pm rating: 6

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#39 shini

I really hope that cat is given to a good home, this girl sounds selfish enough to just have it put down.

As someone else noted, Rabbits do NOT make for good pets, they stink, they’re not that cuddly – I wouldn’t even wish a goldfish to suffer under her care, she’s probably stupid enough to drop broccoli into the tank.

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#39.1 alicewithwings

Rabbits can actually be amazing pets… I’ve had several over the past decade, and with the proper training, they are really not so different from cats. They can be litter trained, and if you can afford to shell out for the nicer litter, they don’t smell bad. When they are used to being touched/held/groomed by people who know what they are doing, they can be very cuddly. They are naturally social animals, after all. That being said, it really doesn’t sound like this girl would bother putting in the work.

Feb 6, 2012 at 3:10 am rating: 17
#39.2 Smokegrey

What alicewithwings said. I’m reading this with my rabbit sprawled out on my tummy while I rub his ears. He smells like warm fresh hay, and my cat is sitting at the far corner of the room staring at us. (She doesn’t cuddle, mostly.)
Rabbits are awesome companions!

Feb 6, 2012 at 9:06 am rating: 12
#39.3 Nugs

You’re full of it. I have a rabbit and he doesn’t stink at all. He’s litterbox trained (you have to use either carefresh or yesterday’s news litter for them). He gets along with my dog and is a great pet.

Feb 10, 2012 at 5:11 pm rating: 1
#39.4 Caity

I’m going to have to disagree with you. My 6 year old mini rex bunny is litter trained and super friendly. She’ll just hop right into your lap if you sit down on the floor beside her, and as long as her litter is changed frequently the smell is controlled.

Feb 12, 2012 at 12:35 am rating: 1

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#40 Keis

I feel sorry for the bunny too if she eventually adopted it. That cat is better off without that moron.

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#41 Olivia (a different one)

What I like most about this is:

“All the vets I saw…”

I mean really? How many vets did this moron take the cat to? How many professional opinions did this buffoon require for her to realise she could not at all feed a cat a vegan diet?! I’m curious, but only because I’m curious as to just how deep human stupidity can actually go…

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#41.1 divvitar

Well, there is the Tea Party, afterall.

Feb 6, 2012 at 2:54 am rating: 20
#41.2 Bcteagirl

I am betting that the first few she contacted she put off to some sort of ‘carnivore conspiracy’. I mean nobody really *needs* meat, they are just saying that to sell meat!

Feb 12, 2012 at 1:12 am rating: 2

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#42 Jordie

None of her Facebook friends responded? Big shocker. They all unsubscribed months ago.

Feb 5, 2012 at 8:46 pm rating: 23 small thumbs up

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#42.1 divvitar

Both of them

Feb 6, 2012 at 2:54 am rating: 40

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#43 DLW

>:O

How can one person be that much of a douche AND so misinformed about a LIFE she adopted? God I hate humans. :’(
Newsflash to the r-tards: Cats are OBLIGATE CARNIVORES.

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#44 Dylan

Saying “really don’t want IT around me” and shirking all responsibility for her cat, for being a cat, is a much bigger atrocity against animals than eating meat. That poor cat is in her demented hands about to be thrown away because she’s too busy being self righteous to actually care about the one animal that’s literally depending on her in the first place. I hope that cat pees in her granola while she’s sleeping.

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#45 nerfwarrior

please just post her phone number to the website and we will handle this one.

Otherwise you can tell her that you can have the cat organically euthanized, bury her and plant her in a vegetable garden. That way she can still eat the cat without feeling guilty that it came directly from animal sources.

Also, the last time i checked primitive referred to “hunter-gatherer” so unless she is actually growing her own food, I believe she most likely still qualifies as a primitive.

*beats chest*

Feb 5, 2012 at 9:35 pm rating: 20 small thumbs up

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#46 marissa

IS this person for real? Man. As an animal lover this makes me extra mad. Gotta love the last snarky little comment. “thanks for being super helpful!” you’re welcome, bitch.

Feb 5, 2012 at 9:47 pm rating: 8 small thumbs up

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#46.1 Vermona

But she doesn’t even say “super helpful”, she uses “useful”, which is just…

Feb 6, 2012 at 1:48 am rating: 9
#46.2 Julesagain

That’s the part that grabbed my attention. Other beings only exist according to their usefulness to Wacko Vegan Diva.

Feb 9, 2012 at 5:22 pm rating: 4

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#47 Leonna

I used to work in a natural foods co-op and we used to have customers come in and buy hot food and feed it to their pets. One guy killed two dogs in a year before someone finally called the humane society on him when he got the third. Another lady killed her cat within two years. These animals RELY on the proteins meat give them and their stomach can not break down and absorb the proper nutrition from a vegan diet.

Hell, most vegans I’ve met aren’t even on a proper diet either – if you are going to go vegan, understand what nutrients each food gives you and how your body breaks it down and how much you need of each. Don’t just throw yourself into it without thinking.

Feb 5, 2012 at 10:18 pm rating: 16 small thumbs up

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#48 Sam

Really? You are a vegan and you donnot care about this cats life? A cat doesn’t have the capability to make a life style choice like that. I assume you are vegan because you care about animals…and you are willing to get to of the car… She will probably take it to a shelter. Awful person. Where she adopted should have said u cant have a vegan cat. But the person replying isn’t that much better, you really suggested taking the cat to a shelter where thu are already overcrowded and be cat will most likely be put down..jerk.

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#48.1 Ginger

Hey, are you in the habit of taking on the cats of everyone you know who doesn’t care for them properly? As in, every single one? If not, shut the fuck up.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:44 am rating: 24
#48.2 Colette

There are a lot of very humane, well funded, mostly no-kill shelters in the US.
I say “mostly no-kill” because there are certainly cases where it is safer and kinder to put an animal out of its suffering than to maintain it’s life, and it is the responsibility of the guardians of companion animals to recognize and respond to that fact.
If the cat is still in a state where it can live a healthy and happy active life it will be found a home. If it’s sick or dying because this girl has treated it so poorly, there is a chance that it will be put down, and I hope she feels very very guilty about it.

Feb 6, 2012 at 2:49 pm rating: 14
#48.3 Megan

If she does not have the money, time or space then she shouldn’t take the cat. A pet is a big responsibility. They take lots of time, money and care. If she’s saying no she probably is being smart and realizing it’s not a good time to have a pet, she might be allergic or she just doesn’t like cats. Her recommendation of taking it to the shelter is a smart one. It’s the idiot vegan chick who is completely in the wrong.

Feb 6, 2012 at 3:42 pm rating: 10

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#49 baconbaconbacon

Actually, since this person is vehemently opposed to anything that “exploits” animals, she should not be owning a pet in the first place…

Feb 5, 2012 at 11:13 pm rating: 28 small thumbs up

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#50 ratastic

This is what immediately came to mind while reading this note:

“Animals eat other animals. It’s nature.”

“No it isn’t. We taught a lion to eat tofu.”

*emaciated lion coughs*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRSLQu-d6ZQ

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#51 infanttyrone

TO: ANY DEAD PEOPLE READING THIS

Please, please, please do not mention this to Nicolaus Copernicus.
It might shake his belief in heliocentricity.

If he had access to this information before publishing De revolutionibus orbium coelestium, he might have come to the conclusion that everything in the universe revolves around this Obnoxious Vegan Girl.

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#51.1 Beatus Mongous

This comment made my day. Thanks!

Feb 6, 2012 at 1:04 pm rating: 4

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#52 Karen

So…it’s better to abandon the cat than to feed it a proper diet? THAT is supposed to be helping the animal world? wtf

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#53 lili

I think this woman in particular either became vegan due to a pre-existing personality disorder, or developed one due to pernicious anemia, beriberi, or something else.

I know most vegans can manage to balance their diets, but this woman sounds so incredibly stupid she just might be the type to get pellagra from being a vegan, even if doing so is exceedingly rare.

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:21 am rating: 23 small thumbs up

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#54 GeniusBro

that’s like trying to make your children breath only CO2 in an attempt to make them eco-friendly. Is this chick a complete tard?

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#55 Vermona

The fact that she adopted a cat without first finding out about its nutritional needs – and then seems to regard it like the anti-Christ once she realizes it can’t conform to her lifestyle – is one thing.

But what really gets me is her use of “super-useful” in the last line. Not even “helpful”, but “useful”. As if the point of other humans were simply to be “useful” to her. I think that says as much about this person as her apparent anger at the cat for being a cat.

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#56 Kris

Does the bitch not get the irony that she’s a vegan who wants to dump her pet? High and mighty not eating animal products and can’t care for the one animal actually sitting in front of her. The “I don’t want it around me anymore” makes me want to punch her in her tofu encrusted face. I hope she chokes on a lentil bean and when no one notices she’s not around the cat eats her!

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#57 Neil

What an absolute turbo c***!

Sounds like a Grade A melter of the highest order!

Feb 6, 2012 at 5:44 am rating: 8 small thumbs up

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#57.1 ha ha hee hee

lol @ turbo c**** – totally stealing that one.

Feb 6, 2012 at 7:18 am rating: 8

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#58 Juniper

I just can’t believe this person exists. Surely no one is that clueless and rude without someone having given them a huge smack down at some point? She hardly even ASKS even… ‘would you mind’ is what you say when you want someone to pass you the salt… not adopt an animal. And all the meat-eating jibes – seriously? No – I just can’t believe this is real.

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#59 skreech666 bang

Someone tell this bitch pets are for LIFE!

Feb 6, 2012 at 6:45 am rating: 10 small thumbs up

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#60 june

She’s got to have some serious personality disorder. My sister is supremely insulting, entitled, and aggressive, but she’s had depression since her early teens. She’s angry all the time and the smallest thing will make her lash out. She can’t keep friends because she judges everyone so harshly that she pushes everyone away. It’s sad.

I’m convinced there is something wrong with this person. She doesn’t seem okay. I’m sure most of these fanatics, whether they be religious nuts, animal rights activists, environmental activists, or whatever else would be diagnosed with some kind of depression or personality disorder.

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#60.1 Bcteagirl

Just a note.. if someone is Bipolar, putting them on older style anti-depressants can trap them in a very aggravated/agitated state… If they haven’t looked into Bipolar disorder it might be a good idea.

Feb 12, 2012 at 1:17 am rating: 2

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#61 AlfaCowboy

Welcome to three million years of omnivorous hominid evolution, you stupid, self-absorbed vegan b%$#@. Short-sighted little minds make me want to tie them up and force feed them veal and foie gras (neither of which I will touch). Not only are you a stupid superior c*&^, but you tried to make your predator pet a stupid superior c&^%. I mean, to some degree all cat people have trouble with actual human socialization, but this dumb hooker is normal annoying cat person x100.

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#61.1 Derek

Way to stereotype cat owners, jackass. You and Ms. Vegan Nutbag would probably get along famously..

Feb 6, 2012 at 9:06 am rating: 34
#61.2 AlfaCowboy

I did not create poorly socialized cat owners. I merely observe and report.

Feb 6, 2012 at 10:05 am rating: 5
#61.3 Rattus

Huh. Well, it would seem that non-cat people are opinionated, obnoxious, loud-mouthed assholes. And Derek is correct. You and the vegan are two sides of the same blindly stupid coin.

Feb 6, 2012 at 10:54 am rating: 37
#61.4 AlfaCowboy

Really? You can sense my volume over the internet? You must be magic! Abracadabra, Jesus!

I believe my initial post expressed my feelings towards the vegan b&^%$, but of course I generally read for comprehension. I suppose it’s unreasonable to expect that from everyone, particularly those who depend on holymoly magic for their senses.

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:07 pm rating: 2
#61.5 Rattus

Apparently your reading comprehension didn’t pick up that I was responding to the animosity you exhibit towards those who like cats. And you really aren’t going any distance towards disproving the asshole hypothesis.

And the same way your experience indicates that cat people are socially maladjusted, my experience indicates that obnoxious internet assholes tend to be annoyingly loud-spoken in the real world.

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:40 pm rating: 30
#61.6 Max

AlfaCowboy is a stupid superior c***.

Feb 6, 2012 at 1:38 pm rating: 13
#61.7 AlfaCowboy

Cat owners are also apparently very, very sensitive, as well as possessed of holyjesustits magic spideysense! Perhaps your cerebellum is enlarging to match that of your relationship substitute, er I mean your cat(s). I apologize, sincerely and truly, for offending your delicate feline sensibilities. Please don’t pee on the couch out of pique.

You would not believe how super duper quiet I am in the “real” world. Catlike, almost. It’s so strange.

I may well be superior, to you anyway, and c*&t is one of my favorite words. I’m afraid I must disagree with your “stupid” assertion though, unless were grading on a curve that does not include you and the other posters on this website.

Feb 6, 2012 at 1:49 pm rating: 3
#61.8 LOL

This thread was fucking hilarious.

Who the hell takes comments about cats that seriously?

Embarrassing.

Feb 6, 2012 at 7:51 pm rating: 2
#61.9 Magnolia

In this particular run of comments, it’s bigotry that’s being taken seriously. When one tars an entire group (ie. cat people in this instance) with the same brush, one is, in fact, a bigot.

Feb 6, 2012 at 8:15 pm rating: 19
#61.10 AlfaCowboy

@LOL….Cat people, the disenfranchised minority, tarred and dandered….forced into second class citizenship by snark on the internet. They need their own underground railroad, or perhaps their own Amendment or Commandment, something like: “Thou shalt not poke fun at brittle cat owners, because they just cannot (sniff) handle it.” I think I need diversity training. Where are the Quakers and abolitionists? Where is the underground railroad? What oversized cat carrier will be their Amistad? Where are the No Pasarans and We Shall Overcomes for the poor marginalized cat people forced on their Trail of Internet Tears?

Thanks, Magnolia, for illustrating perfectly why I harbor “bigotry” (mmph…must…suppress…laughter) towards brittle cat owners. You are awesome, my love. Your unintentional comedy may be the pebble that turns back the flood of said “bigotry.” Oh god…I love you like I love Sarah Palin.

Feb 7, 2012 at 7:36 am rating: 3
#61.11 Furtive lurker

Hey, AlfaCowboy– stop typing so loudly.

(I, too, can sense your volume over the internet.)

Yes, cat people are silly. About 20% of the interwebz are devoted to silly peoples’ silly pictures of their cats and sillier comments and captions regarding said pictures. “I CAN HAZ BROAD GENERALIZATIONS?”

Of course you can, kitty.

Feb 8, 2012 at 9:36 am rating: 2
#61.12 AlfaCowboy

Please refer to me by my preferred honorific, “Stupid Superior C*** Kitty.”

I admit it: I may have been thinking a little too loudly during that last rant. In my defense, you can’t really make Amistad and abolitionist references pianissimo. I definitely was not, however, taking myself annoyingly seriously. I’m just not very good at playing defense.

Feb 8, 2012 at 12:27 pm rating: 1
#61.13 Furtive lurker

I wasn’t actually referring to you with the LOLcat quote. That was just a metaphorical everycat, voicing his opinion, similar to yours, that cat people take themselves and their feliphilia a little too seriously.

I’m only bigoted toward owners of the Manx or Sphinx breeds, myself. Tail-less/hair-less freaks!

Feb 9, 2012 at 12:56 pm rating: 1

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#62 AlfaCowboy

Went on a boundary waters canoe trip with a bunch of vegans. Was amused at their skinny little hippie arms and legs (I’m a hippie too, actually, just not a vegan hippie). Was funny watching them have to prop their packs on rocks to get into them. Was less funny when I had to portage all the food and most of the supplies for nine of us due to their lack of muscle. Still funny, just a little less so. All but one of them, however, ate some of the northern pike I caught the fourth day paddling. Some well cooked, densely packed animal protein was exactly right for that environment. Vegans can be sensible, but they’re generally not while smugly proselytizing in their urbane apartments. Get them into some semblance of the wild, however, and they realize they’re red in tooth and claw like the rest of nature.

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#62.1 BonzoGal

I’ve known lots of healthy vegetarians, but I have NEVER known a healthy vegan. I live in the San Francisco area, and know lots of vegans. They insist that they can get all their nutrients on a totally plant-based diet, but they still have to take supplements for B12 and other vitamins. That alone should tell them it’s not natural or healthy.

They also tend to ignore the fact that EVERY diet includes animals being killed- I worked on a farm, and gophers, moles, ground squirrels, etc. are killed either by traps or poisons, or just by being plowed under during planting and harvesting. Growing soybean crops, even organic ones, involves killing thousands of “pest” animals.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:25 am rating: 25
#62.2 Rizzo

You know that many bodybuilders are vegans right? The idea that they’re all skinny-armed freaks who secretly eat fish is just nonsense. Quit making up stories to feel better about yourself.

Feb 6, 2012 at 10:33 pm rating: 6
#62.3 AlfaCowboy

I didn’t say they secretly ate fish. I pretty clearly said that they ate fish openly in a group of nine people on a canoe trip. Literacy is a wonderful thing, but it’s apparently a passing fad. Pity.

Feb 7, 2012 at 7:40 am rating: 8
#62.4 AlfaCowboy

Also, I don’t see where I used the word “all” anywhere in my post. You must be the in the same Level 12 Supermagic Senses D&D group as the cat people in the thread above. You somehow see things that aren’t there.

Feb 7, 2012 at 7:51 am rating: 3
#62.5 Annaliesa

Troll.

Feb 8, 2012 at 2:09 am rating: 5
#62.6 AlfaCowboy

Where in all the cold hells do you get “troll” out of my posts? Was it my specific description of my personal experience with vegans? Was it the articulate conclusion I drew at the end? Was it my measured response to that goofball rizzo (well, measured and snotty)? I didn’t realize this site was devoted to earnest and respectful discussion of weighty issues.

Feb 8, 2012 at 12:35 pm rating: 3

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#63 Steve

Are they ALL insane???

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#63.1 Really?

Nope. Just the stupid ones. I am a vegetarian and I have two vegan friends that I didn’t even know were vegan until several months of knowing them. They were just as “normal” as can be. I also have 2 cats and a dog who eat meat and I don’t even feel a little bit guilty giving my beloved pets the food they need to survive.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:56 am rating: 5

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#64 Jennidy

Ugh, I hate to see all the vegan stereotypes and hate. I’m a 13 year vegan, strong and healthy.

The only meat in my house is cat food.

Feb 6, 2012 at 10:34 am rating: 23 small thumbs up

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#65 Lil'

I am always blown away by people who are so insanely self-centered. I would never initiate contact with this girl, but if she insisted on staying in touch with me, I’d remember her every Christmas with a Hickory Farms summer sausage gift basket.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:04 am rating: 32 small thumbs up

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#65.1 The Elf

Well, at least the cat will eat well once a year.

Feb 9, 2012 at 6:55 am rating: 3

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#66 wferqwferwepoqepormq

I think the worst and most telling part of this twits mental damage can be explained in this one line:
“Don’t really want it around me anymore”

“it”? It’s a sentient, living being, more preceisely, a cat. One you obviously adopted. It’s not a biodegradeable hemp grocery sack to be discarded, you moron. You obviously got into the vegan busines out of concern for animals amirite?

Assuming this is not a huge troll, that is one demented person.
But, I am leaning more towards troll.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:33 am rating: 20 small thumbs up

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#67 beccaschmecka

I think the vegan part is beside the point. She’s neurotic and a narcissist. She needs help.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:55 am rating: 27 small thumbs up

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#68 lauren

Wow. I hate this person so so much. Props to the submitter for not ripping them a new one.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:57 am rating: 2 small thumbs up

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#69 Barney

Never in my life have I wanted to punch someone in the face as bad as this vegan.

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:01 pm rating: 7 small thumbs up

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#70 redheadwglasses

Just wait until vegan bunny owner decides to (re-)embrace Jesus.

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:13 pm rating: 8 small thumbs up

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#71 Tom

Bring the little f*cker over. I’ll cook it up for dinner.

Feb 6, 2012 at 12:20 pm rating: 1 small thumbs up

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#71.1 Furtive lurker

I’m with Tom– I have plenty of “little meat-eating friends” who would give the cat a nice home.

Right up until suppertime.

Feb 8, 2012 at 9:25 am rating: 0

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#72 Jane

“Admit I care more about animals than you do, and I’ll take the cat.”

Feb 6, 2012 at 1:00 pm rating: 63 small thumbs up

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#72.1 AlfaCowboy

That is awesome. I’d make her get the statement notarized.

Feb 6, 2012 at 1:40 pm rating: 8

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#73 K

The vegan roommate sounds like a morally-bankrupt black-hearted little turd. The passive-aggressive jabs at non-vegan “friends” are bad enough, but worse for me is the way she talks about the cat. She thoroughly hates the poor creature for being physically unable to conform to her ideological diet standards. “Really don’t want it around me anymore.” Wow.

But it seems to fit perfectly with her opinion of human non-vegans, based on this conversation. Eat meat and you become worthless and disgusting to her. Guess we know which person in this exchange is more “primitive.” Hint: It’s the one whose entire life is centered around pointless tribalism on a relatively gray moral issue.

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#73.1 The Elf

Yes! This, exactly. It’s like she’s taking it as a personal insult that the cat is sick from a vegan diet.

Feb 7, 2012 at 8:06 am rating: 8
#73.2 J.A.B.

“Morally bankrupt black-hearted little turd” made me seriously LOL. All that punch and not a single profanity was used–well done!

Feb 7, 2012 at 11:47 am rating: 9

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#74 ed gein

She needs to take it to a no-kill shelter and shut the fuck up. I especially like how OP is the bad guy in all of this, despite Butt Trumpet having adopted the cat in the first place. What a fucking moron.

Feb 6, 2012 at 2:03 pm rating: 9 small thumbs up

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#75 Lisa

Can someone please bitch slap this girl? Preferably with a steak?

Feb 6, 2012 at 2:03 pm rating: 11 small thumbs up

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#76 Dee

No need to be nasty the cat owner and no need to get youself stressed, dear cat owner. Find yourself a vegan vet or an expert on vegan pet food. Basically, you just need to slowly wean your cat. Introduce meat free slowly. Trouble with cats is that they would still go out and bring in a mouse vegan or not. It is easier to keep a vegan dog.

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#76.1 Kaitlin

Or you could not try to force your morality on a living creature that has no choice in the diet you feed it. Violating their biological needs in the name of your ideology isn’t exactly loving the animals.

Feb 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm rating: 48
#76.2 Starfish

Quotes from VeganCats.com

Urinary tract problems are fairly common in cats, and because of the relative acidity of meat to vegetable protein, some vegan cats suffer from them.

That’s their word, not mine -suffer-. So, feeding a cat a vegan diet, introduced slowly or not can lead them to physical pain and medical problems. So – yeah, I have a hard time thinking about people rectifying that by saying they are ending animal suffering, you know, except the animal they kind of promised to care about.

Feb 6, 2012 at 8:37 pm rating: 18
#76.3 Furtive lurker

Starfish is totally right about rectum-frying a cat.

Wait, that’s not what she typed…

Feb 8, 2012 at 9:23 am rating: 2

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#77 sigh

So let me get this straight – she’s a vegan (very likely out of respect and love for animals) and didn’t bother to check out the deadly consequences of feeding a cat a vegan diet before buying one?

Oh, the irony.

Feb 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm rating: 13 small thumbs up

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#78 Cara

I own a cat and feed it meat, and I’m a vegetarian… I can do that for myself and be healthy, but HE cannot. I would never make him sick like that.

Feb 6, 2012 at 4:55 pm rating: 7 small thumbs up

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#79 notgenanything

I work at a zoo, and we regularly get crazies who think the tigers should be fed a vegetarian diet. It’s not natural that they eat meat, they say, it’s just man stereotyping them as carnivores. One man suggested oranges. Yeah, right. The tigers will LOVE that. Moron.

Feb 6, 2012 at 6:13 pm rating: 27 small thumbs up

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#79.1 Belaani

Should have handed him a bucket of oranges and told him to go for it.

Feb 6, 2012 at 8:47 pm rating: 40
#79.2 tvelociraptor

“Animals eat other animals! It’s nature.”

“No it isn’t! We taught a lion to eat tofu.”

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:12 pm rating: 7
#79.3 Rio

I have a traveling reptile zoo, and people are always asking me, tearfully, why the snakes can’t just eat carrots.

Oddly enough, when I ask these people if THEY are vegetarian, I’ve never once had someone say yes (most of the vegetarians I meet, including myself and my husband, understand that some animals are obligate carnivores and that’s that). I often tell people that the frozen/thawed whole prey that I use had a better life and death than the factory farmed animals they (the humans) eat.

Feb 8, 2012 at 8:12 pm rating: 7

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#80 Marissa

Vegan or not, this girl is a straight-up gigantic bitch. If this is real, I really hope she comes across this post and sees how much a bunch of strangers hate her.

Feb 6, 2012 at 7:01 pm rating: 11 small thumbs up

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#81 sparkle

A person this stupid should not be able to own a cellphone. Let alone a cat. There should be laws against it.

Poor bunny. At least the cat gets to escape (:

Feb 6, 2012 at 7:06 pm rating: 12 small thumbs up

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#82 biscuit

I hope the submitter alerts some local newspaper or other local outlet interested in this story. That way, they can advertise this poor cat’s need for a home, and to tell the public making cats vegan is dangerous to their health.

Feb 6, 2012 at 7:50 pm rating: 18 small thumbs up

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#83 Belaani

I hope karma kicks in, she croaks in the middle of the kitchen floor, and her poor hungry cat eats her.

Feb 6, 2012 at 8:41 pm rating: 9 small thumbs up

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#83.1 The Elf

I’ve been told by somebody who works in that particular business that most dogs will wait a long time before chowing down on their deceased owners. Cats, ummmm, don’t.

So the next time Fluffy wakes you up to feed her, consider that she’s just checking to make sure you’re still alive. Fluffy’s gonna get breakfast, one way or another!

Feb 7, 2012 at 2:13 pm rating: 16

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#84 Ajax

Vegans. It’s What’s for Dinner.

Feb 6, 2012 at 9:39 pm rating: 4 small thumbs up

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#84.1 infanttyrone

Just be sure to take a B12 supplement.
Vegans…complete fools? sometimes…complete foods? not.

Feb 6, 2012 at 10:35 pm rating: 4

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#85 Spatula

*I* hope this is actually a joke because I just can’t believe the submitter/protagonist could possibly be that relatively polite in response. That series of texts in my direction, even without the previous 2 pages of spew, would result in me tearing her down for ten minutes and then posting her awfulness on Facebook – with credit to the author. Some things cannot and must not be responded to with civility.

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#85.1 Person

I thought the responses were kind of cold, actually.

Feb 7, 2012 at 7:24 am rating: 0

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#86 Stephanie

Wow.

I’m vegetarian. My dogs eat a raw meat diet because I know that, biologically, they are carnivores. My rabbit eats plant matter (mostly hay) because he is an herbivore. It’s just common sense. I can understand a vegan not wanting to buy meat products at all (even for a pet) but then they shouldn’t keep carnivorous animals.

I know some dogs can survive (that’s a key word, by the way) on vegetarian diets. They’re pretty adaptable and designed for scavenging. Cats, however, are not scavengers and are also obligate carnivores. They need meat to survive .

Feb 6, 2012 at 9:48 pm rating: 5 small thumbs up

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#87 Rizzo

Sounds like a lot of you misunderstand diets, but nevertheless you’re all hurling insults. Omnivore does not mean you “should eat a diet of both plants and animals.” It simply means you have the physical means to eat either. Cats really can’t be vegetarians, but dogs easily can be- in fact it’s healthy for them, just like it is for people.

Also: I don’t buy this post. Seems too extreme to be real. It does the stereotypical vegan preaching thing.

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#87.1 DrChalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

Stereotypes often exist for a reason.

Feb 8, 2012 at 8:53 am rating: 9
#87.2 Stephanie

Except that dogs are carnivores, not omnivores. Their digestive system and teeth are the same as wolves.

Feb 9, 2012 at 12:03 am rating: 3
#87.3 Louise

Tell that to my dog that eats grass and other plant matter.

Feb 9, 2012 at 1:07 am rating: 1

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#88 Chippy

I’m vegetarian myself (will proably go to hell for taking milk in my coffee) and I have a dog. I realise that dogs are omniverous, but my dog, like 90% of the canine polulation gets MEAT for his dinner. It’s one thing for me to decide not to eat meat, I am not going to impose my views on anyone or anything.

I just love how obnoxious vegan ends up blaming her flat mate for her own stupidity in getting a cat in the first place – to say nothing of the cruelty imposed on the poor beast by feeding it the totally wrong diet.

Vegan – FAIL!

Feb 6, 2012 at 10:43 pm rating: 5 small thumbs up

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#89 Jane

“Why didn’t she research this before adopting a cat?”

She’s probably not getting the proper nutrients from her diet to maintain brain function.

Feb 6, 2012 at 11:56 pm rating: 13 small thumbs up

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#89.1 Kieron

While funny, this is seriously a possibility.

Feb 7, 2012 at 7:09 am rating: 5

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#90 R

The poster should notify the American equivalent of the RSPCA. The silly vegan is verging on animal cruelty, in my opinion.

Also, most shelters I’ve ever heard of request or suggest that the pet be brought back to them, in the event that said pet needs to be surrendered.

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#91 zomboid

Q: how do you spot a vegan?
A: they tell you

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#91.1 lilyhippy

Q: What’s the difference between a vegan and a terrorist?

A: You can reason with a terrorist

Feb 8, 2012 at 1:50 pm rating: 14

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#92 Dr_Know

OMFG How did OP manage to stay so calm I would have stabbed that vegan through my phone.

Feb 7, 2012 at 4:05 am rating: 4 small thumbs up

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#92.1 sparkle

There’s an app for that.

Mar 2, 2012 at 6:05 pm rating: 1

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#93 Cooper

People like her are why young adults have to have parent consent and permission to adopt a pet. Idiot.

Feb 7, 2012 at 5:08 am rating: 2 small thumbs up

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#94 wiwille

I don’t know this person, but I hate her so damn much.

Feb 7, 2012 at 10:21 am rating: 7 small thumbs up

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#95 J.A.B.

I have no problem with vegetarians/vegans, but this bitch is putting me over the edge. What’s her number? I’ll text her a picture of myself eating a huge rack of ribs!

Feb 7, 2012 at 11:40 am rating: 5 small thumbs up

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#96 Isaac

I’m vegan and even I think this girl’s a nut.

If you’re human and vegan you need to regulate your diet to ensure you get all the vitamins and proteins you would get on a “normal” diet. If you don’t you can suffer some nasty consequences. A good friend of mine didn’t ensure he had a balanced diet and will now be on medication for the rest of his life.

Cats can survive on a vegetarian diet, with proper vegetarian cat food, but NOT on a vegan diet. She’s a moron for not consulting a vet before adopting the cat.

Sanctimonious cow – as I said I’m vegan, but any vegan with half a brain will acknowledge that a vegan diet isn’t even natural for humans!

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#96.1 DrChalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

It’s not her veganism that’s the problem; or even the fact that she encourages others to be vegan (that’s annoying in itself, but it’s bearable). It’s her obnoxious tone.

Feb 8, 2012 at 8:51 am rating: 5

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#97 Totally NOT a vegan

I wonder what will happen if she ever decides to breed said bunny, and bunny, in a stressed out state caused by being owned by and idiot, eats it’s own babies. Yes, rabbits will eat their young when stressed. Saw it with my 4-H rabbits several times. And if she chose to re-home a rabbit, I’d be all over it. They really are delicious.

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#98 Alex

You would think that depriving an animal of its freedom and forcing your dietary decisions upon it by assuming tacit consent would be against the idea of animal rights. Or ethical veganism. Unless you brought some truly circuitous logic out.

Feb 7, 2012 at 9:39 pm rating: 8 small thumbs up

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#99 Ky

This would make me so unbelievably angry if I received a text like this. I must say that I am a former vegetarian, but I never pushed my beliefs on others and I would never try to force vegetarianism on someone or something for whom it was unnatural! And seeing a carnivorous animal consume meat does not bother most vegetarians or vegans

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#100 Paula

I gave each of my dogs a piece of jerky after reading this and some comments. What kind of jerky? It doesn’t matter, something less cute died and my dogs are happy and thus won’t start eating my toes while I sleep for protein. My toes are worth it.

Feb 7, 2012 at 11:26 pm rating: 8 small thumbs up

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#101 SomeGuy

In general carnivores and omnivores are more highly evolved, or at least higher on the food chain.

So saying he has a primitive diet is just stupid.

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#101.1 DrChalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

I expect that most of our ape-like ancestors were vegan, or at least vegetarian, long before we started eating meat. Meat-eating is certainly a lot easier with the development of tools.

Interesting side-note; it has long been hypothesised that the growth of our brains was thanks to eating meat. However, recent evidence suggests that it’s actually the advent of cooking which might be responsible. It has been shown that the human digestive tract is able to extract more calorific value from cooked food (including vegetables) than raw. Hence why raw food diets are bullshit.

Feb 8, 2012 at 8:49 am rating: 7
#101.2 DrChalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

I realise that “I expect that most of our ape-like ancestors were vegan, or at least vegetarian, long before we started eating meat. ” is a logical tautology; of course they were vegetarian before they started eating meat. You know what I mean though; I’m saying that eating meat came later probably.

Feb 8, 2012 at 8:50 am rating: 2
#101.3 g

If it’s calorific value you’re after then fine, cook the hell out of your vegetables or eat high fructose corn syrup. Just have a salad or an apple a couple of times a day so you can get your vitamins

Feb 8, 2012 at 9:56 am rating: 1
#101.4 The Elf

You don’t see a middle ground between boiling your vegetables to a limp, soggy mess and subsisting on exclusively raw food?

Feb 8, 2012 at 11:21 am rating: 3
#101.5 Spencer

Saying that carnivores and omnivores are “higher on the food chain” is also a tautology. That’s how food chains work.

Feb 8, 2012 at 12:12 pm rating: 1
#101.6 OVG hater

Actually, many of our “cousins” such as chimps regularly hunt and eat meat.

Sylvester and Tweety Bird
Tom and Jerry
’nuff said

Feb 8, 2012 at 2:57 pm rating: 0

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#102 Ben

The ‘Really don’t want it around me anymore’ part of the text says everything you need to know about this twat of a woman.

Feb 8, 2012 at 6:03 am rating: 9 small thumbs up

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#103 DrChalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

So in summary;
VEGAN ASSHOLE: “Hey douchebag, you’re a terrible person. Would you like to help me out with this problem that I’ve caused for myself?”
SOME GUY: “Ummm…no, not really.”
VEGAN ASSHOLE: “Well fuck you then.”

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#104 Lou

Holy shit. I have never un-met someone I hated more. What an aweful human being. I see dogs and cats in my vegan-saturated area that are skin and bones and forced to be on a “vegan” diet (which is impossible for cats, they are obligate carnivores). I hope this chick got eaten by the cat.

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#105 Laura

Aw, come ON folks. What is the point of expending soooo much hate and energy on one person that none of us have ever met?

So she said something that made her sound cruel and dumb. That dosent actually mean she IS cruel and dumb.

You can’t judge someone on one tiny soundbite. We’ve all said stupid stuff from time to time. Time to move on.

Feb 8, 2012 at 3:16 pm rating: 1 small thumbs up

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#105.1 tiggyt

To be fair, she said quite a number of things that made her sound dumb and cruel; and selfish and arrogant; and rude and condescending, and unpleasant in many other ways. If we were judging her on a single comment without context it would be hasty, but we are reacting to the dialogue of an entire exchange (not to mention the preachy, aggressive note that featured on this site previously) which reveals unsavoury aspects of her personality. This is a demonstrably militant individual whose behaviour towards both the submitter and the cat is unacceptable. Whilst I agree that vitriol is often futile, in this instance I’m glad to see an online community rising up to spew bile in the name of what’s right. They are leaping to the defence of the helpless cat and the victimised submitter and in doing so are affirming that society is by and large more decent than the abominably sanctimonious hypocrite in question.

Feb 8, 2012 at 5:57 pm rating: 15
#105.2 bookworm

She could have avoided this entire situation by not taking in an animal she had no intention of actually taking proper care of. And not coming across as such a complete and utter snot when making her request to foist her responsibility off on others.

Feb 8, 2012 at 6:26 pm rating: 4
#105.3 The Elf

Technically, we’re judging her by a soundbite and a lengthy screed. (see link at top of page to previous OBV PAN).

And I think our judgements are at least in the ballpark. She thought she could keep a vegan cat, she took it to multiple vets (all of whom advised against such a diet), and now that she’s given up she “really doesn’t want it around her.”

Cruel and dumb would just be the beginning. Let me also take this time to throw in “self-centered”, “arrogant”, and “fanatic”.

Feb 9, 2012 at 7:03 am rating: 9

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#106 Tara

The original post said they lived in Brooklyn. I live in Manhattan and would be happy to adopt the cat. I may be a crazy cat lady, but I have enough sense to give my cat food with taurine in it. I know a few other people who might be interested too. Feel free to email me (you can do that by clicking my username-it links to my blog).

Feb 8, 2012 at 3:17 pm rating: 7 small thumbs up

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#107 Rio

To the submitter: I don’t know where you live, but if you could email me, I will try to find a no-kill shelter or foster home for the cat so it doesn’t end up abused or dead. You can email me at mjbuckley1975 at gmail. I am in the northeastern US, but I have friends all over the place who are involved in cat rescue.

Feb 8, 2012 at 8:15 pm rating: 7 small thumbs up

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#108 Larry Sheldon

Why are religious fanatics always such rude, condescending asses?

Feb 8, 2012 at 9:16 pm rating: 2 small thumbs up

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#108.1 Starfish

I’m not even sure this stems from a religious thing – not this or her previous notes (IIRC) actually referred to a deity of any kind as the inspiration for her “veganization” and subsequent uptight douchebaggery.

That might make it better in my mind, at least I’d know what was to blame. But – as it stands all I’m left with is my perception she being a dick for the sake of being a dick because of a feeling of non-religious moral superiority to basically – the rest of human and animal life on Earth.

I mean – Jesus passed out hundreds of free fish, so even if he was vegan, apparently him being around non-vegans didn’t phase Him.

Feb 9, 2012 at 9:43 pm rating: 2

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#109 oi

1. Jerk
2. Rude Asshole
3. Condescending
4. Self righteous
5. Selfish
6. Entitled
7. Obstinate mule
8. Unashamed
9. Demanding
10. Idiot
How many repulsive qualities one can have without being murdered? 10 and counting apparently.

Feb 8, 2012 at 9:44 pm rating: 3 small thumbs up

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#109.1 oi

1. Tyrant
2. Rude Asshole
3. Condescending
4. Self righteous
5. Selfish^2
6. Entitled
7. Obstinate mule
8. Unashamed
9. Demanding
10. Idiot/hypocrite (being vegan because of whole kind to animals things and then changing cat’s natural diet)
How many repulsive qualities one can have without being murdered? 10 and counting apparently.

Feb 8, 2012 at 10:05 pm rating: 4

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#110 DC1068

Wow. It’s as if ex-roommate turned into a vegan version of Sheldon from Big Bang Theory. Only MORE clueless!

Feb 8, 2012 at 10:00 pm rating: 4 small thumbs up

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#111 Yenna

She makes vegans look bad, this is why people hate us and think we’re all crazy!
And she’s a horrible pet owner, she should have done her research like any person with common sense. Cats cannot be vegetarians!

I’m sure this has all been said but I do not care.

Feb 8, 2012 at 11:53 pm rating: 3 small thumbs up

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#112 Monica

I used to volunteer at a no-kill, private cat shelter that I’m sure would be more than happy to take Passive-Aggressive Vegan’s bloodthirsty cat off her hands. (They’ve accepted many a cat whose humans were idiots unfit to care for another living being.)

However, PAV would probably be so appalled at the shelter’s insistence on a meat diet for its 100+ residents that she’d never consider it.

And please, please, please keep us apprised of any new developments in this saga. This could turn into a whole crazy series!

Feb 9, 2012 at 12:36 am rating: 4 small thumbs up

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#113 Crystal

Geez, it’s one thing to impose your lifestyle choices on other people as they have a choice to listen to you…but it’s quite another thing to make your pet do something that will starve it and make it go blind potentially (without taurine). It’s elementary school biology too Pointy teeth = meat
I hope this kitty finds a good home with lots of meat

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#114 dussus

I’m never one to engage in a comments war but the many misconceptions stated in this thread make it nigh on impossible. Don’t bother correcting anything I’ve written – if I didn’t know it was true then I wouldn’t be posting it.

1. Yes, cats are obligate carnivores but it is entirely possible for them to live healthily on vegetarian cat food which is full of supplements. As a vegetarian, I would not choose to do this as it is not in a cat’s nature to choose to eschew meat. As a human, I have the physical capability and the decision-making ability to do this based on personal ethics but it is not for me to eradicate the concept of ‘meat’ universally. I prefer to feed my cat fish-based foods as opposed to chicken or mammal meat.

2. This girl is not a dick because she is a vegan. She is a dick because she is a dick. Remember that for every annoying herbivore out there, there is an equally obnoxious meat-eater. I’ve lived with them – they leave bones in your oven dish and wave raw steaks in your face in the hope of getting a reaction. People are annoying because people are annoying, not because of their dietary preferences.

3. Evolutionary biology is not a particularly relevant factor in how we should make decisions today. Contraception has pretty much put a stop to the idea that people with better genetics reproduce more while ugly or disabled people wither and die before puberty. Whatever your views on diet, the natural world isn’t always the best evidence to back up an argument. Justice is not a natural law, sexual consent is not a natural idea (i.e. rape is a norm, naturally speaking), murder is not naturally immoral, we fly in aeroplanes and send invisible letters over the airways for goodness sake. Evolutionary biology tells us nothing about how we should live our lives now or in the future.

4. Taurine is in lots of things. Including Red Bull.

5. It’s worrying to see the blazing hate that erupts from people as soon as there is an opportunity to attack a vegan. I tried to be vegan for two years and gave up about two years ago, going back to being vegetarian which I still am. Just because someone makes an ethical choice does not mean that they think any less of other people’s morals or that they are inviting constant debate. I experienced relative strangers genuinely shouting at me when I told them I was a vegan. It’s very strange behaviour. Meat eaters are very good at picking out one obnoxious vegetarian or vegan and tarring the whole group with the same brush.

6. This girl is clearly a dick.

Feb 9, 2012 at 6:06 am rating: 8 small thumbs up

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#114.1 AlfaCowboy

“Don’t bother correcting anything I’ve written – if I didn’t know it was true then I wouldn’t be posting it.”

Translation: I’m on a humor-centric website and am about to go on an anti-humorous, self-important and self-righteous “Leave Britney Alone” crying jag. Kleenex is in aisle six, I think. No one like you.

Feb 9, 2012 at 8:01 am rating: 14
#114.2 AlfaCowboy

Sorry, that should read “No one likes you.” I type poorly.

Feb 9, 2012 at 8:03 am rating: 4
#114.3 Lil'

You prefaced your statements as though you were about to list facts, but you merely offered an assortment of opinions. Opinions can always be countered. In your opinion # 6, does “this girl” refer to you?

Feb 9, 2012 at 10:33 am rating: 8
#114.4 The Elf

I always trust anonymous internet posters with unknown credentials to tell me the straight facts. I checked wikipedia and they say dogs are described as both carnivores and omnivores. It goes on to say that dogs can adapt to a wide variety of diets and are not dependent on meat specific protein sources or a high level of protein to fulfill their dietary needs.

So PAN poster says one thing, wikipedia another. I don’t know who to believe!

Feb 9, 2012 at 11:36 am rating: 8
#114.5 The Elf

Oh dang, I meant to look up cats instead of dogs on wikipedia and now I can’t go back and edit it. Post response fail!

Feb 9, 2012 at 11:39 am rating: 3

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#115 GhostWriter bang

One time I fed my pet goldfish nothing but candy corn for three weeks.

It turned into a Swedish Fish.

Feb 9, 2012 at 10:37 am rating: 12 small thumbs up

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#115.1 AlfaCowboy

That’s pretty badass.

Feb 9, 2012 at 1:55 pm rating: 3

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#116 Poa1977

Two words for this thread: rampant stupidity. Ok, four: some hilarity.

Feb 9, 2012 at 1:05 pm rating: 1 small thumbs up

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#117 Agent Cooper

What a piece of work. People like her illustrate why you should have to take an IQ test in order to adopt an animal. Make a cat a vegan? That’s animal abuse. The poor thing wasn’t being cared for properly.

Feb 9, 2012 at 5:47 pm rating: 4 small thumbs up

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#118 Jordan Gray

I am normally a very polite, gentle and well-adjusted person, but this bitch needs a slap-down.

If I were the recipient of this, I’d probably answer:

Why can’t you just stop slowly murdering the animal you took responsibility for looking after? Seriously, you chewed me out for eating steak and now you’re starving a kitten to death? I suggest you take a long, hard look at yourself instead of offloading your ethical dilemmas onto less conflicted people.

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#119 Sweetpea

“Thanks for being super useful like always?!?!
Cripes. She’s lucky she didn’t say that to me. I hate to think of what I would have to do to her.

Feb 9, 2012 at 9:44 pm rating: 2 small thumbs up

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#120 ariane

I bet I know this person. And yes, totally disconnected from reality they are. Don’t ask a favour from someone you didn’t even like when you lived with them.

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#121 JackalofallTrades

Most of what I’d like to say has already been said time time again. But I believe I can think of one pet that this chick can have without me worrying about it. Its the perfect pet, no dietary restriction that contradict with her morality and it might turn her ummm ‘carniverous’– i’m thinkin’ a Chia pet.

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#122 Cady

Are there still people in the world who haven’t heard of Craigslist? All this freak needs to post is:

“Free cat. I have been abusing a cat for an extended period of time by denying it proper nutrition, and now that I’ve grown weary of that, I’m trying to dump it off on someone who actually likes animals. Anyone interested?”

Someone will take the cat. Craigslist reaches a pretty wide audience.

Feb 11, 2012 at 3:19 pm rating: 3 small thumbs up

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#123 Batmanda

If it were me, I would have responded, “Why would you want one of my friends to take your cat? We’d probably just eat it.”

Feb 14, 2012 at 3:20 pm rating: 1 small thumbs up

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#124 JC

This person’s problem isn’t that she’s a vegan; it’s that she’s a self-centered bitch.

Feb 15, 2012 at 4:21 pm rating: 5 small thumbs up

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#125 CR

I hate vegans like this. They make them all look bad. Actually she just makes all people in general look bad …

Feb 19, 2012 at 11:52 pm rating: 2 small thumbs up

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#126 kacky

People aren’t here for your use, you entitled nitwit! I hope the cat brings you about a hundred dead mice and then finds a NICE person to adopt.

Feb 22, 2012 at 12:51 pm rating: 2 small thumbs up

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#127 Ash

I’m going to be a veterinarian in a couple years, and having to deal with this kind of person is the one thing I dread the most. I don’t even know how I’d respond to this level of idiocy combined with so much self-righteousness.

My blood boils when I see people adopt animals without doing the research, only to give them up shortly afterward because the pet doesn’t live up to their misguided expectations. If you really liked animals, you would do the research *before* you take full responsibility for one so you can be sure that you’re really giving it the best life you can. Why isn’t that obvious? Ahem. Stepping off my soapbox now.

The line that really got me was “your little meat-eating friends.” Wow. Just… wow.

Mar 2, 2012 at 4:26 pm rating: 4 small thumbs up

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#128 Killer Tuna