Hello, 911? My neighbors are loud walkers!

March 11th, 2012 · 154 comments

Writes Chelsea in Colorado: “This is just hilarious. Their bass shakes our floor at all hours on a pretty much daily basis, but they’re upset because…we walk loudly?”

Hi, As much as I understand your guys' frustration with our loud music on the weekends, (which by the way you've made clear through your stomping) it IS within the

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FILED UNDER: college life · Colorado · neighbors · noise · non-apology apology · smiley

154 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Ed

    Hmmm, sounds fair enough. As an apartment dweller, stomping is extremely irritating, and so easily avoided. Take off your shoes and walk lightly!

    Mar 11, 2012 at 3:30 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   wassup

      I’m sure they’re not stomping. They are probably just walking around normally. In the apartment where I live now I can hear the upstairs neighbors’ CAT thundering back and forth through the apartment and I’m sure it’s just a normal cat. If you can’t deal with the sound of people walking around above you, get an apartment on the top floor or, better yet, don’t live in an apartment.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 3:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.2   angie

      I’m going to agree with wassap. I have lived in apartments where I could hear their cats walking around. Apartment living SUCKS. We had a downstairs neighbor once INSIST to the landlord that we let our then-3 year old JUMP OFF OF FURNITURE. She invited them in one day to listen. They did, then they came upstairs to find that said 3 year old was asleep, we were just walking around our house like normal people do during the course of the day.

      If you don’t like apartment living, don’t live in one.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 4:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.3   makfan bang

      I can’t walk barefoot right now – doctor’s orders. I’ll try to walk softly, but deal with it.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 4:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.4   lala

      @angie – we called security on our upstairs neighbors once, only to find out that they’d left 4 10-11 YOs home alone, and they were practicing *body slamming* each other. I was never so happy as when they moved out.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 6:58 pm   rating: 92  small thumbs up

    • #1.5   bookworm

      Team Ed here. The apartments in my building all come with hardwood floors, and I can’t hear the upstairs neighbors at all unless they’ve got their shoes on.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 7:11 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.6   rat

      It could be worse, you could live in an apartment where they are putting new wood floors in the apartment above you at 6 am and they like to play drop the hammer.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 9:07 pm   rating: 91  small thumbs up

    • #1.7   Seanette

      Or have a second-shift worker in the household and noisy plumbing/wall repairs next door beginning in the middle of the second-shift worker’s normal sleep hours.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 10:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.8   lilgreenfish

      I joke that my previous upstairs neighbors were elephants, and my current upstairs neighbor is a herd of hippos. I’m relatively sure none of them were walking heavily on purpose, but however the apartment was built, it transmits steps EXTREMELY well. The only other sound I ever hear is a vacuum (not even music comes through).

      (Now, the ones who are 2 up who drop their cigarette butts down and end up on my upstairs neighbor’s and my patio are another story…)

      (Also, I’m from Colorado…such a great state!)

      Mar 11, 2012 at 10:59 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.9   Henry

      I live in a house, and when my Shih-Tzu (all of 12 lbs) trots through the dining room, you can hear the china rattle. Walking and even stomping I could deal with. But not having to listen to someone else’s music or loud base from the music within the confines of someplace I pay rent on, ‘within the noise ordinance’ or not. The volume of music can and should be controlled to a level where it cannot be heard by people outside your residence, at all times. Walking around and otherwise trying to live your life cannot be controlled.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 12:55 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.10   DamnStraight

      Unless the flats are brand new and very well-insulated, you’re going to hear your neighbours “stomping” around. We are convinced our upstairs neighbour is playing basketball sometimes, but he’s probably doing normal activities, so we let it go. Our downstairs neighbour isn’t so nice, and came upstairs to yell at us for “intentionally jumping up and down to make [her] mad”. We were just walking around as normal, but she’s the world’s hugest b**** and has called the cops before for “yelling and screaming” (normal talking and laughing). They told HER to leave US alone!

      Mar 12, 2012 at 5:52 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.11   The Elf

      I’ve been amazed at the noise that my cats can create just going up and down the stairs. Hell, my ferrets used to make noise while “stomping”. How a 2 lb animal can sound like an elephant is beyond me.

      A certain amount of noise from your fellow apartment dwellers is inevitable. Foot traffic noise is more forgiveable than loud music noise since it is less controllable. Still, it behooves the apartment dwellers to walk softly in the night hours as a courtesy to their neighbors. So, unless Note Submitter is literally jumping up and down, Note Writer needs to deal.

      I can’t blame them for writing a PAN, though, since Note Submitter apparantly won’t allow for reasoned discussion.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 7:15 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.12   Elizabeth

      I am firmly on the side of non-stomping. Don’t people normally walk without slamming their heels into the ground? I find it mystifying how loud walking can be. My upstairs neighbors actually shake my chandelier when they walk. I always walk softly on my floor knowing that it’s annoying to people below me if I don’t. Music is also annoying, however. And video games and TREADMILLS. I was appalled that the OP didn’t recognize how walking loudly can be a debilitating problem.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 10:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.13   JRS

      Wrong. Music is worse. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Gallactica.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 12:27 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.14   Crystalline

      Are you serious, Elizabeth? People *living* in their apartments is debilitating you?!? You, my dear, need to stop living in apartments, or you need to beam back down to reality. People will walk. They will do things they enjoy, such as playing videogames, and you besmirching them the right to do so is ridiculous. If you live in an apartment, don’t be a dipshit and assume no one else is living in that apartment building, too. I highly doubt you are the perfect neighbor and likely do things to annoy the fuck out of your neighbors, too. Get over yourself, oh-so-righteous one.

      Mar 13, 2012 at 2:09 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.15   Amanda6

      “If you can’t deal with the sound of people walking around above you, get an apartment on the top floor or, better yet, don’t live in an apartment.”

      “If you don’t like apartment living, don’t live in one”

      How perfectly privileged. I guess I should live under the freeway, since next to apartment living, that’s about what I could afford.

      Mar 14, 2012 at 3:04 am   rating: 92  small thumbs up

    • #1.16   Slerte

      We’ve had people living above us who walk so lightly you barely know they’re there and we’ve had people living above us (same apartment) who stomp about like a herd of elephants. Stomping is annoying. I will not live in another apartment with somebody upstairs.

      Mar 22, 2012 at 12:19 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.17   neighbor with kid

      At least it wasn’t running AND screaming. I had a lovely female neighbor who would have her boyfreind chase her around their aparment in the middle of the night, while she would run around screaming. Then, they would start tossing furniture, and she would start screaming “No! No!”
      That was a cop calling situation. But I never did…
      Instead, the one time I went up there, and said “Keep it down,”
      She hollerd back “Get a F___ing life!” Then she dumped my plant out on the front porch the next day. Again my landlord told me I was an over-reacting nosey fruit cake and threatened to kick me out.
      Fortunately though I’m pretty sure it was nothing but fun for them, no real danger.

      Apr 5, 2012 at 11:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #2   Uninspired Required Name

    Are they going to be cited for walking too loudly? I’d like to know exactly what the charges for this would be. People really don’t know how to deal with living in apartments.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 3:31 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   nick17

      I work in law enforcment, and I can tell you that we would refer them to their landlord. The only way (at least in Oregon) that it would be a police matter, is if they could prove that the stompers were going out of their way to stomp, to annoy the downstairs neighbors, which could MAYBE be considered Disorderly Conduct. It’s too bad the cops can’t cite people for being rude.

      PS When we get these calls, we all roll our eyes and think, “Grow the fuck up and learn some problem solving skills.”

      Mar 11, 2012 at 8:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.2   Crystalline

      Oregon represent! ;-)

      Mar 12, 2012 at 2:42 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.3   Nunavut Guy

      Give the police more power;there’s a good idea.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 3:12 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.4   nick17

      I’m not sure how that statement applies to my comment. Cops don’t need any more power. We’ve got our hands full with enforcing the laws we’re already enforcing.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 12:02 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.5   DaveGI


      I think Nunavut Guy is refering to your comment about citing people for being rude.

      The rest of us realized it was a facetious statement.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 1:57 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.6   nick17

      Oh. Got it. Yes, I was definitely being facetious. Good lord, if we had to police rudeness, we’d never have time to deal with actual, you know, crime.

      Mar 13, 2012 at 1:07 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.7   AB745


      How about when your childish downstairs neighbor IS a police officer? True story!

      I first met her when my boyfriend and I were making the bed squeak. She showed up at my front door wearing her uniform over her PJs and told me off for ten minutes, and I was terrified because, well, a police officer was telling me off. The next time she showed up at my door was because we were walking around. I didn’t answer so she yelled at me through the door and knew my name, which was alarming.

      The last straw was when she started banging on the ceiling because the people above US were walking around. My boyfriend went down there to let her know it was not us and she had her gun in her hand when she answered the door. I went to the leasing office (I’d complained to them before) and all they could do was to move me to a different building. Apparently since she’s a cop she’s allowed to use that to intimidate people and flash her gun around off-duty.

      Mar 14, 2012 at 10:29 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #3   beerwad

    I’m sure the cops will get right on that.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 3:31 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   BullMoose

      Depends on where they live. I had cops show up at my door at about midnight for the same reason. The downstairs neighbors didn’t like the fact I was walking around.
      But, it was a small town. Probably the most action the cops had all week.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 5:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.2   Nunavut Guy

      I’m not trying to go on a cop bashing spree.I too live in a small town,well hamlet.

      A bored cop is a dangerous cop.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 3:33 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.3   cavale

      i had the cops show up at my door one night because i was playing Nancy Sinatra at 10pm.

      Mar 15, 2012 at 5:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #4   Siobhan

    hmm sounds like the person who has posted this just seems petty if they wont talk about it yet continue to stomp on purpose and its a bit shite if they people downstairs have got kids as well.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 3:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   Nunya

      Seems not only petty but contradictory to leave a note pointing out all of these faults in another person while still possessing the same qualities…

      Mar 11, 2012 at 3:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.2   Siobhan

      if they refuse to talk about it what else do you suggest they do? at least they are trying to put into action someway of coming to a compromise rather than just try and make more noise than the other person. not really that petty at all.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 7:07 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.3   Jill

      I think we can take the handwriting plus the bass to equal that these are college students.

      Mar 13, 2012 at 1:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #5   JVV

    Since I’ve never been one for smoothing things over, I’d suggest Chelsea let them know that she will invite the cops in to hear how loud their music is outside of the legal hours.

    Pretty sure the cops would kill themselves laughing at the original letter writer if they called to say “my neighbors are walking too loud.”

    Mar 11, 2012 at 3:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #5.1   nick17

      Sadly, we get these calls all the time. And we DO laugh. But it’s a waste of everyone’s time to call the cops for these things. Everyone needs to put on their Big Girl Panties and stop calling the cops for stuff like this.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 8:47 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #5.2   Seanette

      Yeah, I’d think letting police handle burglaries, assaults, car thefts, etc., would be just a tiny bit more urgent than “waaah, the people upstairs are WALKING”.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 10:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #5.3   nick17

      I had a guy (who also happened to be a neighbor, but he didn’t know that), cuss me out over the phone, because the officers didn’t arrive in time to hear the neighbor kid’s booming car stereo and couldn’t cite him for a noise ordinance violation. Seems the kid pulls in and finishes whatever song he’s listening to before he shuts the car off. Tried explaining to the caller that officers were responding to a serious car crash, a burglary and a meth lab bust among other things, but he was still pissed that his lame-ass noise complaint was a lower priority. Every time I walk by his house, I’m tempted to flip him off. Dick.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 1:42 am   rating: 91  small thumbs up

    • #5.4   DamnStraight

      Seanette, you’d like to think that…

      My house was robbed, we called the police at 11pm on a Saturday night, and they didn’t show up until noon the next day!! They said they had more urgent matters (drunk people, likely, as I live in the UK). However, when my b**** of a neighbour called the police on us at 10pm on a Friday night, they were there by 11.30pm! As I said above, they told her to leave us alone.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 5:57 am   rating: 91  small thumbs up

    • #5.5   The Elf

      Your call was lower priority because it was already over. Nothing to do but take the report and hope the stuff shows up in pawn shops. But a neighbor dispute (even over something as silly as just walking loudly)? That can get worse by the minute and escalate into violence, so it’s higher priority. Not as high a priority as other things, but higher than taking a report for stuff stolen.

      Put me on the “don’t call police for petty shit” team.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 7:20 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #5.6   nick17

      You also have to take into account what other calls they were receiving on both of those nights. Maybe the night you called to report your burglary (I’m guessing you weren’t technically “robbed” unless the terminology is different in the UK.), there were a gazillion car crashes, assaults, and other high-priority calls. Maybe the night your neighbor called to complain about you, it was an unusually slow night. For most people, anytime they have to call the police, it’s at least a little bit of an emergency in their eyes, because they (hopefully) have never had reason to call before. You have to realize, sometimes there are bigger emergencies going on. Also, everything Elf explained is correct.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 12:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #6   aquapt

    Thank goodness for that smiley face at the end – it completely defuses the tension, doesn’t it? (That and “We are over it,” immediately followed by what can only be read as a dark cloud of totally-not-over-it.)

    Mar 11, 2012 at 3:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #7   Ollie

    Sounds to me like we have 2 sets of douchebags who deserve each other as neighbors. You’re both noisy a-holes and I’m glad your childish antics aren’t going on near my place!

    Mar 11, 2012 at 3:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #8   SeeYouInTea

    What are these mythical creatures known as occAsians?

    Mar 11, 2012 at 3:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.1   Jimmy James

      It’s short for Occidental Asians, which is sort of an oxymoron.

      Mar 13, 2012 at 9:09 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #9   weaselby

    I hate the occasianal bout of thunder-feet-itous as much as I hate creatively phonetic spellers :p

    Mar 11, 2012 at 3:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   anonymous

      Oh, the irony!!

      Mar 12, 2012 at 12:26 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #10   ljatty

    Team Chelsea – You can help how loud your terrible music is but you can’t help how you walk. Being an apartment dweller since 2003, I have had every terrible neighbor in the terrible neighbor handbook and “loud walkers” are not in there. It’s the floors more so than the person. However, loud music with the bass turned up is #1 and they should be evicted. Or burned at the stake.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 3:58 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   DamnStraight

      Exactly! A loud neighbour is one that has a party on a Wednesday night (and every other week night, but is surprisingly quiet on weekends) and blasts music until 4am, allowing their friends to yell and scream outside your window while you try to sleep, because you have a class at 8am.
      Turns out the aforementioned neighbour had been kicked out of his dorm for too many incidents (noise, alcohol, drugs), and his parents got him an apartment, so he could continue his loud behaviour off-campus.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 6:03 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.2   a-Arialist

      Oh burned, definitely. Loud music neighbours are by far the worst. Especially when it’s Robbie Williams at 3.30am on a Wednesday morning and they’re all fecking singing along…

      Mar 19, 2012 at 7:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #11   Susan

    If people can’t be respectful by keeping their music down to a tolerable level for their neighbors, then move the hell out of an apartment and get a house where you can’t bother anyone. And if you can’t handle the “stomping” of feet? Move the hell out of the apartment. Is this how adults really act? Grow up all of you….

    Mar 11, 2012 at 4:03 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   CitizenPagan

      Some of us live in apartments because we can’t AFFORD a house. “Stomping” feet can be somewhat controlled, but I can hear my upstairs neighbors TIPTOEING. That’s something that has to be dealt with in apartment living.

      Also, why exactly should someone move just because their neighbors won’t follow a noise ordinance / law / whatever? The person with the music has a responsibility to keep it at a reasonable level, not thump their bass at all hours. No one should have to deal with a bass pounding away.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 5:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.2   Ruth

      Calm your tits CitizenPagan, Susan was on your bloody side! Try reading more slowly.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 5:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.3   CitizenPagan

      My tits are perfectly calm, as I keep them contained in their pretty pink holder.

      Explain how Susan was on “my side” (which all I really did was point out both people are kind of wrong) by saying that people should go buy houses. Who, in this day and age, can afford a house if they’re struggling to pay rent on an apartment?

      Wait, I’m expecting intelligence on the internet. My bad.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 6:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.4   bookworm

      CitizenPagan’s tits may be calm, but her panties are in quite the bunch.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 7:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.5   Jitty

      Leave Citizen alone… WTF?

      Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.6   Wrench

      You can’t always avoid it in a house either. Our neighbor used to listen to his bass loud enough to shake our walls and wake our 1-year-old. We kept asking him to turn it down and he kept insisting it wasn’t that loud. One day we went into his house — he was right, it wasn’t loud in his house, our houses were just close together.

      Sometimes you just deal, and sometimes you compromise for community harmony. You just don’t get to be a douche about it.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.7   Nunavut Guy

      Lately I’ve had a raven come to sit on my roof in the early morning and mid afternoon.It raps on the roof for about an at a time,sounds just like someone is banging at the door.

      You can’t choose your neighbours.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 3:50 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.8   The Elf

      If it comes in and sits on your pallid bust of Pallas, move.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 7:24 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.9   Carol

      Best comment ever.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 9:00 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.10   unsatisfied

      CitizenPagan can do us all a public service right now with the posting of a picture proving said tits are in said pretty pink holder.

      (or, should it be “TitizenPagan”?)

      Mar 12, 2012 at 2:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.11   Kat

      @11.10 – Rush Limbaugh? Is that you?

      Mar 15, 2012 at 7:52 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.12   morgannagaia

      My upstairs neighbor exercises. Jumping jacks, aerobics. I think she has a treadmill. She’s an asshole.

      Mar 18, 2012 at 9:12 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #12   SevereCaseOfButtHurtItis

    Sounds like a whole lot of butthurt going on on both sides.
    Hey Chelsea, if their “bass” actually is annoying you at what you claim to be “ALL HOURS”, you could just call the cops when it’s up late at night.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 4:07 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #13   infanttyrone

    Their bass shakes our floor at all hours on a pretty much daily basis
    …our loud music on the weekends…

    One or both of these is likely an overstatement or an understatement.
    Clearly, a neutral 3rd party is needed to sort things out.

    Cops might not be able to find a disturbing the peace statute applicable to stomping, and the apartment manager might not have the negotiation skills necessary to engineer a mutually satisfactory compromise.

    So, since the phrase “school night” has been used, a call to the local
    Solomon Dispute Resolution Services office is the obvious choice.
    Their go-to scenario of splitting children in two has stood the test of time.

    After all, it was developed in the Middle East, an area known for getting both sides of major and minor disputes to go along and get along.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 4:11 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #14   Grammar Police

    To her credit, her letter is well-written with no spelling or grammar errors. Points go to her for that! lol

    Mar 11, 2012 at 4:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   SeeYouInTea

      I believe you should turn in your Grammar Police badge. You’re off the case!

      Mar 11, 2012 at 4:18 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.2   Lola

      I believe you mean “with no spelling or grammatical errors.”

      Mar 11, 2012 at 5:47 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.3   weaselby

      Yeah, you don’t get to be Grammar Police no more. :p They have misspelled words, abused commas, and an interesting double possessive “your guys’.” I do give them points for nice handwriting and knowing where to put that apostrophe, though. And the smiley face paired with the threat, of course.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 6:12 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.4   M&M

      Wait, you mean “due do” and “occasians” are okay in your book, Grammar Police?

      Mar 11, 2012 at 6:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.5   Pit Pat

      Perhaps GP was being sarcastic…

      Mar 11, 2012 at 9:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.6   infanttyrone

      Grammar Police may be suffering from budget cuts that have left the department unable to update their spelling database to V2.0.

      They have to do double duty (and on weekends yet) when the Spelling Police are off the clock and off goofing off at BH90210 conventions.

      Surely we owe them no small debt of lassitude.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 9:53 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.7   Craphtlovr

      Also, I feel strongly that it should be “Thunder-foot-itus,” like tinnitus.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 11:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #15   HRHjmp

    I had a downstairs neighbor complain that my walking sounded like “bowling balls dropped on her ceiling.” Funny, none of the other tenants the prior six years complained.

    When I would get up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom (I had wood floors), she would slam her closet door repeatedly. When I would shower at 5:50am, she pounded on her bathroom ceiling.

    It’s called living in an apartment. I hope whoever moved in after I left was equally “loud,” and the tenant got a clue.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 4:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   aquapt

      Some places just have inadequate soundproofing.

      I lived in one place where the landlord had (illegally) partitioned off a separate upstairs apartment. We could literally hear the guy pee upstairs. (We never accused him of creating excessive hydraulic pressure just to annoy us, though.) The woman before him used to take baths at 2:30 in the morning. When she turned the spigot on full-force, it was like being transported into the bowels of a hydroelectric plant. But it was the building (and its owners) that sucked, not the tenants.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 4:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.2   Kerosena

      I once had downstairs neighbors who called the cops on me for coughing too loud.

      Of course there was nothing to be done about it, but later that week, I made sure to wipe my flu-ridden snot rag on their doorknob. Assholes.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 9:00 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.3   jadefirefly

      I had a neighbor come complain about my coughing, once. It was the beginning of September in Chicago, and in the high-80′s with ridiculous humidity, and his suggestion to fix the problem was “close your windows”. I asked why he didn’t close his windows, and he claimed he wasn’t the one “with the problem”.

      I cheerfully told him that yes, he was — I didn’t have a problem with being sick. He did.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 9:29 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.4   Jill

      Having lived in the same apartment for 10 years, with about 8 changes of residents in the apartment above me, I can say that yes, ALL apartments suck when it comes to sound issues. I can hear my neighbors pee from my bathroom. However it does depend on the person. Most of the people living above me have sounded like a herd of elephants. Some of them get it right though, so it’s clearly possible to NOT stomp around. You just have to make the effort.

      Mar 13, 2012 at 1:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.5   Drendel

      Not ALL apartments suck. The one I currently live in has 16″ concrete floors and 12″ walls. The only noises we hear are literally things being dropped on the floor. (cans, bowling balls, toddlers etc.)

      Mar 20, 2012 at 4:34 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #16   scott hall

    eh just sounds like a fight. not that funny.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 4:59 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #17   Meg

    I used to live below a 400 lb man who liked to run on his treadmill at 4 am, right around the time I was just falling asleep post graveyard shift. I just kept a pile of shoes next to my bed to hurl at the ceiling.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 5:07 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #18   DS

    In one of my college apartments, I lived on the 3rd floor and we had girl neighbors downstairs that liked playing shitty music late at night. We’d asked them to stop, they told us to fuck off. My roommates and I used the wheels (with tires) from a jeep to make our coffee table. One night after hearing their crap 500 too many times, we took one of the wheels and bounced it to each other across our floor aka their ceiling for about 15 minutes. Never heard a peep from them after that. My friends that lived on the 1st floor below them later told us that stuff was falling off of their walls.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 5:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #19   Ruth

    I’m pretty sure anyone who plays loud bass without gaining the full consent of their neighbours (preferably by bribing them) in an apartment deserves to be shot.

    Why does this notewriter have the writing of a 14 year old, but complains about school nights? Since when do 14 year olds deal with the neighbours instead of their parents? I hate to think that someone with such pathetic handwriting and a bratty attitude is a parent themselves.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 5:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.1   Lola

      Really? You are attacking their handwriting? Doctors have chicken scratch for handwriting but I am pretty sure they are still intelligent. If anything is “pathetic” it is your argument.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 5:52 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.2   DamnStraight

      I’m pretty sure this is a college apartment and the note writer isn’t 14.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 6:12 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.3   Ruth

      Doctors have doctor handwriting which is totally appropriate as they are doctors. 14 year olds writing like 14 year olds is also appropriate. Everyone is entitled to stupid handwriting when it’s for their own reference, but if you send a bitchy note to someone in a teenager’s handwriting you look, well, like a teenager. If the content of the note was adult they could get away with it, but if your note says “I’m allowed to play loud music all day and it’s so unfair that you like, walk around and shit” one can only assume that you really do have the brain of a 14 year old.

      I’m assuming you have teenager handwriting, too, Lola! ;) (In all honesty, so do I!)

      Mar 12, 2012 at 8:48 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #20   Dibs

    Their music may well be within “noise curfew” hours but if it’s above a certain decibel level you will get cited for it.

    I live in a third floor apartment and I freak out when my dog starts thumping his thick tail on the floor, I know it must sound like we are hitting a hammer on the floor.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 7:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   wassup-holmes

      Yeah, the people who live above me with the wind-sprinting cat? Also have a dog who, when it scratches itself, causes a very distinct THUMPA-THUMPA-THUMPA on the floor. We live in a subdivided house with hardwood floors so the sound proofing sucks but everyone’s really nice so I just deal with it. You know, like an adult.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 7:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #21   Seanette

    Some people do walk heavily, my husband being an example. This is one of several reasons we live on the ground floor. We also keep odd hours (he works swing shift), and we’re very aware we’d drive downstairs neighbors crazy, so we arrange to not have downstairs neighbors :).

    Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #22   Kati

    Thunder-feet-*itis? Swelling of the thunder feet? Okay then.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 8:31 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #22.1   The Elf

      It’s what happens when you call upon the Sandal of Thundara.

      Thunder, thunder, THUNDERFEET HO!!!!!

      Mar 14, 2012 at 9:21 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #23   Sir Puke

    I had a family living above me in an apartment. There were two boys under ten years old. They would loudly wrestle in the afternoon before dinner. The parents would step up and try to get them to stop. I am almost sure it was because they didn’t like the noise either.
    The mother and the father would argue and swear at each other and anyone else in their apartment. That was the biggest annoyance for me. She would curse at people in her apartment or on the telephone at anytime day or night, including on the weekend when I would try to sleep-in.
    When my lease was up I was out of there like a bat out of hell.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 8:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #24   deprogrammed

    For some reason, the mythical, magical 10PM curfew concept has spread across the country. For the record: there is no such thing as a time when disturbing the peace is OK. The upstairs neighbors should be the ones who call the cops. Not to mention the folks downstairs should be arrested for sheer gall.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 8:46 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #25   undund

    quiet seems the privilege for those with money. “Just move” is not an option for everyone.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 9:13 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #26   goobler

    Uh, grownups who can’t afford to buy houses can rent these nifty things called Duplexes.Nobody above the ceiling except mice and squirrels, nobody downstairs except dirt and plumbing. Easy to soundproof between units.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 11:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #26.1   kermit

      Goobler – It’s just as easy to soundproof between the units of a duplex as it is to soundproof apartment units.

      And as mind boggling as it may sound, people who live in rented apartments and can’t afford to buy their own home usually can’t afford to rent duplexes either, @sshole.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 3:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #26.2   Drendel

      You are forgetting that while a deplex only has 1 shared wall to soundproof an apartment may have 8 (or possibly even 9). That is considerably more expensive.

      Mar 20, 2012 at 4:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #27   Craphtlovr

    I used to live in a shared apartment with very thin walls. So thin, that when my boyfriend and I would watch TV in bed, with the volume so low that even we could barely hear it, the neighbor would bang on the wall. We did have a later schedule than they did, and felt they should try something called “earplugs,” but we tried to keep it down the best we could. But sometimes, we wanted to, you know, talk to each other, and if our voices rose above a whisper, bang went the wall. (P.S. Other neighbors had called the cops on them for screaming at each other.)

    One night, he banged so hard that it knocked a picture frame off the wall, which fell onto a glass and shattered it. Glass shards were everywhere, including IN THE BED. Although it was 2am, we were forced to run the vacuum or risk physical injury. The neighbor stormed over, banged on the front door, and accused us of doing it “on purpose.” Even when I showed him the bag of broken glass, and invited him in to observe the scene, he called us liars and threatened to call the cops. I wish he had, actually.

    Bottom line, no matter the hour, if someone is doing something that is well within their rights to do, i.e. having a normal conversation, taking a bath, walking around, watching TV at a reasonable level, etc., get yourself some goddamned earplugs. They work wonders.

    Mar 11, 2012 at 11:37 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #27.1   Craphtlovr

      Sorry, I meant e.g., not i.e.

      Mar 11, 2012 at 11:40 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #27.2   Seanette

      Problem there is the risk that someone who has to get up early (you know, for a job or some frivolity like that) won’t hear their alarm clock because of earplugs.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 12:06 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #27.3   shepd

      You’re too nice. I would have shown him the broken picture frame and said I’ll be invoicing him for the damage. When he doesn’t pay, I’d take him to small claims court. That waste of his life should be enough to stop him. If not, doesn’t matter, I’d end up with $200 of his money and he’d know the cost of banging on the walls instead of calling the police, like an adult.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 8:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #27.4   epwearer

      That’s crap. I wear earplugs every night (my husband snores) and I have never once slept through an alarm. The guy should have worn them. Sounds like he was an entitled prick.

      Or at the very least he could have moved his bed so it wasn’t against your wall.

      Mar 16, 2012 at 12:40 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #27.5   a-Arialist

      @ epwearer – me neither. Frequently had to wear earplugs because of wankers downstairs and always heard the alarm.

      Mar 19, 2012 at 8:04 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #28   undund

    “occasians” — funny

    Mar 11, 2012 at 11:40 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #28.1   deprogrammed

      I was wondering if they meant the Filipinos from Occidental. Not that smart, probably.

      Mar 13, 2012 at 12:22 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #29   loribl

    When we were in college many moons ago, we lived next door to some early punk rockers. They decided that slam dancing at 3 a.m. was fun. The problem was, their living room shared a wall with our bedroom and I had to be at work at 7 a.m. Being a light sleeper, I got very little sleep with these two morons living next door.

    One morning, I pounded on their wall and they quieted down. However, they came over later in the day while I was not around and talked with DH. They asked if we had pounded on the wall and DH (who sleeps like a dead person) of course replied that we had not. One of the girl’s snappy answer to the noise was, “We are just young and like to have fun!” At the time, we were the advanced ages of 20 and 21 to their youthful 18.

    I do NOT do well with repetitive noise. Today, I am not so tolerant of this sort of crap. However, I am not like my dad, who got arrested for the first (and hopefully ONLY) time at age 65. He had asked his neighbors to turn down their mariachi music for WEEKS. He had finally had enough and went to their yard and SHOT their car radio with a 45!

    Mar 12, 2012 at 2:16 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   Seanette

      I like your dad’s style. :)

      Mar 12, 2012 at 2:35 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #29.2   deprogrammed

      I’d have bailed him out.

      Mar 13, 2012 at 12:23 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #29.3   Sarila

      The Awesome is strong with your dad.

      Mar 17, 2012 at 3:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #30   Red Delicious

    Maybe it’s just me, but I’m one of those people that does my best not to piss anyone off, just out of common courtesy and decency.

    But I guess those qualities don’t exist anymore in the real world.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 2:16 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #30.1   Seanette

      I like to think I’m like that myself.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 2:36 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #30.2   Sean Jungian

      Right, Red Delicious, you are the ONLY ONE in the world with that particular quality. That’s why sites like this one exist, because rude asshole behavior is so universally condoned and encouraged.

      Self-righteousness isn’t an asshole trait AT ALL.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 8:06 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #31   The Elf

    I think some roommate/apartment disputes could be resolved by simply talking to the person. It doesn’t work with everyone – there are some real crazies out there – but I think most of the population is willing to compromise if made aware of the problem. That’s why PANs get me so much – they’re often the first attempt at resolving a problem and they do anything but.

    It seems here that downstairs neighbors attempted to talk to Chelsea about it on multiple occassions, but she won’t answer the door. (If we believe the note, anyway). Why is that? Unless the downstairs neighbors came up raving, in which case it could be a safety issue, why not answer the door and discuss the problem like civilized people. Maybe Chelsea could explain that she isn’t delibertly making noise, that it is a soundproofing issue, and resolve to attempt to walk more lightly after 10pm on school nights, provided those neighbors tone down their heavy bass. That would be a reasonable compromise. But without face-to-face discussion, such compromise is impossible.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 7:34 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #32   Merv

    My downstairs neighbors could have written this note. In their minds, my moving about in my living space is done out of spite and malice. The fact that they rent the basement apartment in a creaky, 110 year old building is lost to them.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 7:57 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #33   Stacia

    I could never understand why people think it’s okay to have bass in an apartment complex. Sure, music sounds better with bass, but it’s plain annoying to hear and it’s impossible to tune out with earplugs. I’m lucky with my land lords. They don’t allow bass regardless of what hour it is. And with the footsteps…I wear slippers to help with that or I walk on my tip toes.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 8:47 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #34   Nope

    It amazes me how many people don’t seem to get that apartments have thin walls and you can’t have music as loud as you would in a house. I don’t want to listen to your reggae, rap, etc., so please turn it down to a decent volume. One of my neighbors likes to have theirs so loud you can hear it outside of the building. Sigh.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 8:52 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #34.1   Noelegy

      Houses don’t necessarily make it any better. My neighbor across the street, who is in all other ways a good neighbor, opens up his garage every holiday and plays Tejano music for the entire neighborhood.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 2:48 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #34.2   Sean Jungian

      Same here, Noelegy, my across-the-street neighbors “treat” the entire neighborhood to their solo Garage Karaoke Night at least once a week.

      Although I don’t say anything because they do turn it off after 9 p.m.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 5:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #34.3   deprogrammed

      I don’t mind it being loud for a certain amount of time, and if the noisemakers are aware and behaved as your neighbors, it would be OK. Unfortunately, I had a neighbor who would blast his music any time of the day or night, did not answer the door when I knocked, and got out of line with the cops when they showed.

      Yeah, I know it’s illegal but I got one of those nifty gizmos that one evening, when he had it going REAL good, I dialed in his frequency, hit one button and fried his system. No, I’m not going to say where/how I got it – but you can find anything on the internet….

      Mar 13, 2012 at 12:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #35   Bill

    If the person who wrote the note wasn’t a rude idiot herself, then she wouldn’t be having the problem.

    There is NO reason to have the music that loud that your neighbors can hear it clearly. It is most annoying to hear the bass boom-boom-boom through the walls. It doesn’t matter if it IS within a noise ordinance time or not, it is just simply rude and disrespectful to jam the tunes that loud.

    I applaud the stomping tenants in getting even. If the idiot would keep the music down, then the idiot wouldn’t have to deal with the stomping.

    I’m so glad I haven’t lived in an apartment in almost 20 years. It seems that most (not all) people who live in apartments are immature anyways, so this note is no surprise.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 9:40 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #36   tk.

    I have an upstairs neighbor who is not light-footed and goes to work at 3am, so I… *yawn*… can relate.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 9:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #37   Erin Kane Spock

    I walk like an elephant, but made effort not to when I lived in an upstairs apt out of consideration. In turn, I’d expect the same consideration out of my neighbours.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 11:46 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #38   Adriana

    For a year, I lived in an apartment where I heard every noise my upstairs neighbor made because of how shoddy the construction was. Wasn’t his fault, but he didn’t make it any easier by inviting over all his friends every Friday and Saturday night. They often didn’t leave until 4 AM, usually drunk, screaming and laughing all the way to the car. My other neighbors loved to smoke pot on the weekends, stinking up my apartment most Saturday afternoons. So… that’s when I ran most of my errands.

    My point is that thin walls and apartment living mean you’re going to run into lifestyle choices and habits that annoy you, but that everyone involved also needs to be considerate of that fact. Just because the floods and ceilings betrayed every noise didn’t mean that my upstairs neighbor had to be a loud douche at 3 AM. Be reasonable with your disturbances. They’re going to happen, but you can minimize them.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 12:31 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #39   Lil'

    My neighbors just moved away, but they were an interesting family. They had regular screaming matches in the driveway. I’ve seen him lay down behind her car to keep her from leaving, and on New Year’s Eve she came pounding on our door after he drew a loaded gun on her and her daughter. He got no jail time even though he admitted it, and she took him back the next day. Oh, during warm weather, she watered her outdoor plants in her panties and bra (or a string bikini – if she were being conservative) every single day. She even changed into a bikini after work once and drove home with the top down. It was odd, but she was a hottie. She had to be…her husband reminded her often that if she got fat, he’d leave her like he left his ex. He was a real charmer, that guy.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 12:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #40   Bex

    Since when does not answering your door when you’re not expecting anyone equal being rude and/or childish?

    Mar 12, 2012 at 1:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #41   Jennifer

    Aaah, thank you again, PAN, for reminding me that people pretty much suck and putting as wide of a distance as possible between me and them is the best thing to do for my overall sanity.

    Fortunately, I already do this, anyway. But a reminder is always good.

    By the way, don’t people ever listen to music on their Ipods anymore? How are all these people blasting music from their stereos and bothering the neighbors on purpose when listening on their headphones isn’t a weird thing anymore, it’s pretty much the “normal” thing? I mean, they have to be making extra effort to be that annoying, right?

    *continues to be mystified at humanity*

    Mar 12, 2012 at 1:13 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #42   Nahhh bang

    I live in a house, in normally quiet neighborhood, and am being deafened AS I TYPE by a Harley across the street that is in dire need of exhaust work…but will never get it. Because they LIKE it like that.

    So…Team Chelsea.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 2:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #42.1   The Elf

      Those loud pipes have made it so that cars notice me. The instances of being merged into (run off the road) are half what they used to be since I got after-market pipes. They’re street legal, but I bet my neighbors could tell you if I was running late for work or not on any given warm & dry morning.

      It’s pretty bad when you have to physically kick a minivan door before the driver gets off her damn phone and notices that she’s about ready to turn you into road pizza.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 2:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #42.2   herpderp

      Seriously, that “it’s for SAFETY” BS is so tired. I lived on a busy street, and the normal road noise was bad enough. On Sunday mornings when every Harley rider in the area gathered to take their weekly ride, you couldn’t hold a conversation in my apartment. If you have to be THAT loud in order to be “safe”, and arguably you’re STILL not “safe” (especially considering the helmets and lack thereof that seem to be popular), then there are bigger problems at hand than whether people can hear you.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 6:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #42.3   Nahhh bang

      Elf, I sympathize, but as a cage-driver, I assure you that I hear a throaty glass-pack a lot better than an el-cheapo full of rust-holes rattling against the bike’s frame…which is what I’ve been subjected to from across the street for nearly a week.

      ETA: My husband drives a semi and a lot of drivers don’t notice him, either, so overly loud pipes aren’t going to solve that particular problem.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 11:46 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #42.4   The Elf

      Oh yeah, cluelessness and obliviousness abounds on the road.

      Still, I used to have an ongoing problem with drivers merging into my lane on the highway. It happened about once a month or two. Since replacing my stock exhaust a little over two years ago, it’s happened only once. I didn’t do anything else differently – same bike, same leathers, same helmet, same lights, same routes and times.

      But since your neighbor’s problem seems to be poor maintenance and not simply loud pipes, I got nuthin. I also don’t let my bike just sit at idle unless I’m doing some sort of repair or maintenance. I never understood that – marinating in exhaust fumes and engine noise isn’t my idea of a good time.

      Mar 13, 2012 at 8:42 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #43   yolanda

    If an apartment has very little textile decoration, carpets, drapes, apholstery, etc, it will act like a sound box for and amplify the activity in it towards the neighbor’s home. My neighbors told me that my music was creating an issue for them and I was shocked as it was quite low and I never heard a thing from them. I went over to their cozy stuffed home and heard every tiny noise from my place through the walls amplified louder than in my place. Hanging a nice tapestry style rug on the adjoining wall solved the issue without me having to buy a vacuum for carpet.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 2:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #44   yolanda

    I also wanted to suggest that all you apartment dwellers extend the courtesy of allowing a weekly stereo blast for an hour or so (length of an album) from each other because sometimes the music needs to hit your ribs, not your ears. I always did my occasional stereo blasting during the afternoon, though. (love my little house, I can vacuum at night!)

    Mar 12, 2012 at 2:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #44.1   kermit

      If you need your music to be so loud that it “hits your ribs”, maybe you should drive out to an abandoned parking lot and crank up your stereo there where you won’t be bothering anybody. Some people value their hearing, even if you don’t. And noise ordinances typically apply at all hours of the day, pumpkin.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 3:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #44.2   infanttyrone

      With quality headphones you can crank it until your ears almost bleed.

      Cuts the odds of a neighbor giving you something you can feel in your ribs.
      Pain can be good, but it’s usually better when self-administered.

      Mar 12, 2012 at 5:22 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #44.3   yolanda

      (name’s yolanda, as you can see, not sure who pumpkin is)
      I have never had bad relations with a neighbor over my stereo. I always paid attention to the movements in the suites around me and used due consideration before cranking the tunes. This was, I admit, in the days before wireless anything so headphones is not a suitable solution as I usually was housekeeping and dancing, not sitting like a lump in a chair. Taking myself off to a parking lot with a car, assuming I had one, and that it had a stereo, let alone a decent one, is a stupid assumption. If I had that much money I would have been in a house by then where I didn’t have neighbors to worry about. If you can’t crank your stereo some afternoon once a week, you need new neighbors because they’re selfish and intolerant.

      Mar 13, 2012 at 11:00 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #44.4   kermit

      “Paid attention to the movements” of your neighbours? Is that supposed to be a polite way of saying you spy and stalk your neighbors?

      You couldn’t possibly have any idea what your neighbours are doing to judge whether your noise level is bothering them. People work shifts or other people study. They have rights, too and noise ordinance laws support those rights. And just because nobody has called the cops on you doesn’t mean that they’re not bothered by their walls vibrating. It just means that they’re scared you’ll retaliate.

      If you can afford a good stereo (since evidently regular car stereos are inadequate for your music listening needs), you can afford a good pair of headphones. Headphones were invented back in the 1920s and have been cheaply and widely available since at least the Sony Walkman came on the market in the 1980s.

      Mar 13, 2012 at 12:17 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #44.5   deprogrammed

      I think she meant she knew when people were generally at home. A good idea in general for neighbors to watch for neighbors; if something is off/someone you don’t recognize is snooping around, you’re alerted to it right away.

      I go so far as to let my neighbors know when I’ll be gone for an extended period, and who will be checking on or staying at my place. I’ve done the same for them. Someone tried to steal tools from their backyard shed, and I was able to call the police sooner rather than later.

      Get to know the people around you.

      Mar 13, 2012 at 12:40 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #44.6   Lil'

      Yolanda, I think it would be more stupid to assume a person with an apartment can’t afford a decent car. A person living in an apartment isn’t necessarily poor. When you live in an apartment, regardless of the reason, you sacrifice certain pleasures, including that of blasting your music. I lived in an apartment for years before buying my house. I kept my noise at a reasonable level, and I expected the same. When I got the occassional prick for a neighbor, like the guy who cranked his video games up so loud at midnight that I would be startled from my sleep and the photos on my wall would shake, or the jackass that would have parties so large that his friends would fill every parking space, forcing tenants to park along the street, I followed the proper grievance procedure outlined in my lease. Apartment dwellers don’t forfeit the right to peace and quiet. We have to be tolerable of reasonable noise (footsteps from neighbors above, talking in coversational tones, kids and pets running around); however, no one should have to hear their neighbor’s music over the sounds in their own home.

      Mar 13, 2012 at 12:58 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #44.7   Rockin

      “sometimes the music needs to hit your ribs, not your ears”

      You have a very odd definition of the word “need”. You know what other people need? Sleep. Relative quiet to do homework or to let their child sleep. I fail to see how your “need” for reverberating music trumps any of those. That’s not a need, that’s an entitled desire.

      Mar 14, 2012 at 10:09 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #44.8   L

      And if her neighbours all work day shifts, don’t have kids, and nobody’s home during the afternoon (which is when she said she did it, not during the night, if you read her post), should she still not be allowed to play music?

      I find that a ridiculous idea. If the one hour of music a week bothered her neighbours, wouldn’t they have complained?

      Also, I don’t have a car either. Not everyone does. Ask New Yorkers how many of them have cars.

      Mar 16, 2012 at 10:12 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #45   cate

    “We’re jerks for controllable noise-making, but you guys are bigger jerks for making noise that you can’t help but make.” WTF? I like how note-writer justifies being a jerk because “it’s not illegal” to be an obnoxious jerk. Team Chelsea.

    Mar 12, 2012 at 4:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #46   Some Old Guy

    My mother has a ground floor unit in an upscale condo complex (she has bad hips and can’t manage stairs anymore). The upstairs neighbors recently put in hardwood floors. Despite being required to put in a sound-deadening layer, the declined to, saying that they would have had to cut all their doors to make them fit. So every footstep is clearly audible, every pair of heels sounds like a carpenter, and whatever it is they are rolling around up there sounds like a freight train on a dirt road.

    Mar 13, 2012 at 11:23 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #46.1   epwearer

      I hope she’s in contact with her homeowner’s association or a lawyer. As you said, they were *required* to do that. They didn’t and should have to deal with the repercussions (pulling up the floors and adding the sound deadening layer). I would hope she’s not just complaining about it and not actually doing anything about the problem.

      Mar 16, 2012 at 12:56 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #47   bloop

    Noise before 10? Submitter, chill the fuck out.

    People walking? Letter writer, chill the fuck out.

    One day, I’m going to live in a cave and never have to deal with this kind of crap again.

    Mar 13, 2012 at 11:47 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #48   bleep

    lol. they can’t call the cops for stomping… noise ordinances have a range clause. if the cops can hear the upstairs neighbors “stomping” from 200 feet away, they should call animal control to take care of the elephant upstairs.

    Mar 13, 2012 at 2:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #49   JBee

    I was living in apartment housing that almost exlusively held students for a nearby university, and there was one guy down the hall who played music so loudly, with his windows open, that a guy from down the street came over to tell him to shut the hell up or he would call the cops. I only know because I happened to be going downstairs to do laundry when he arrived, fuming, and asked if I knew where the noise was coming from. I was quite happy to let him confront them rather than me, a woman who avoids confrontations at all cost. The direct confrontation took care of it, thankfully, though only after much screaming between the two parties.

    Mar 13, 2012 at 3:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #50   Phil

    There is difference between walking and stomping. I had one family above me that jumped out of bed all night long and stomped something fierce. They moved out and I occasionally hear the people above us now. The stompers also loved to play loud music till 3am while mommy was at the club.

    Mar 13, 2012 at 3:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #51   Alistair

    I am a 911 dispatcher and, yes, people call about this sort of thing – all the time. And then they get pissed when we try to explain that while it may violate a civil ordinance or the apartment’s rules, it is not a CRIME to be noisy. Asshats.

    Mar 13, 2012 at 10:07 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #52   Dr.Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

    They don’t sound “over it”.

    Mar 14, 2012 at 11:46 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #53   Emma

    My downstairs neighbor skipped the note and just called the police. She had her TV turned up so loud we couldn’t hear ours and our landlady had told us to stomp on the floor as a signal for her to turn the tv down. We explained all this to the cops who issued her the citation for breaking the noise ordinance. WIN!

    Mar 14, 2012 at 11:34 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #54   no

    1. Both noise makers in the note sound (intended) like assholes.

    2. I don’t get why so many people here find stomping acceptable just “because it’s an apartment”.

    As mentioned above in various forms, people who live in apartments have the right not to be subjected to excessive noise. This is not some excessive sense of entitlement no matter how much you try to spin it. There are some things you have to limit in an apartment more than you would in a house. Playing music loudly is one, running around is another.

    If you happen to be heavy-footed enough to be causing a lot of noise by simple walking, then yes, you ARE part of the problem and need to find a way to solve it. NO your neighbors don’t have to suffer because you happened to move in.

    Mar 15, 2012 at 3:20 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #55   shevrolet

    Being considerate shouldn’t be so hard. When Boyfriend and I moved into our first apartment we spoke to our adjoining neighbours early on about letting us know if we were too noisy and whether they’d heard anything so far. Boyfriend likes his music loud, and we’d definitely had some bed squeaking in the first week, but we were lucky to be in a fairly soundproof building.

    Mar 20, 2012 at 11:21 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #56   Ruthless

    Loud walkers are some of the worst neighbours. If you live in an old, shitty apartment building you have to learn to walk softly and not slam your heels down on the floor. I suffered under one, plus the bitch had a CAST. I can sleep through music, I can’t sleep through thunderfeet. I moved out shortly after she moved in.

    Mar 26, 2012 at 3:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up


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