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	<title>Comments on: The never-ending (and completely unnecessary) battle between basic hygiene and basic courtesy</title>
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		<title>By: Susie</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2012/08/15/paper-towel-hygiene/comment-page-2/#comment-419960</link>
		<dc:creator>Susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are all mental. i can&#039;t believe i just read so many posts on hand washing and paper towels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are all mental. i can&#8217;t believe i just read so many posts on hand washing and paper towels.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanya</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2012/08/15/paper-towel-hygiene/comment-page-2/#comment-419539</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 04:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My real question is why do people who work in restaurants think it&#039;s okay to wipe the chairs and then wipe the table with the same cloth?  That&#039;s just nasty.  I don&#039;t want whatever is on your butt or your kids dirty shoes all over the table I&#039;m going to eat off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My real question is why do people who work in restaurants think it&#8217;s okay to wipe the chairs and then wipe the table with the same cloth?  That&#8217;s just nasty.  I don&#8217;t want whatever is on your butt or your kids dirty shoes all over the table I&#8217;m going to eat off.</p>
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		<title>By: E. Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2012/08/15/paper-towel-hygiene/comment-page-2/#comment-419145</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I just carry a bottle of GermX (or equivalent) with me wherever I go. Every part of a bathroom is teeming with bacteria. Washing your hands only to turn the sink off (thus touching the handle that your unwashed hand had just touched) is counter-productive. Plus, most bathrooms don&#039;t stock anti-bacterial hand soap and opt for the cheap lotion based kind.

Also, @notolaf: The people in Mexico don&#039;t get sick from the water because their body is used to the bacteria in it, just as your body was used to the bacteria in your well water. Another source would cause you to get sick. 

That doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s good for you. In fact, it just displays your body&#039;s amazing ability to contain infection and adapt itself to not need to expunge it. Your body assumes that you are smart enough to avoid bacteria, and thus because you&#039;re drinking water teeming with poop microbes it does it assumes it&#039;s the only source of water around and thus contains and adapts. 

Even though the well at my childhood home was PROPERLY dug and away from sewage, it still had traces of bacteria from being in the ground. After I moved to the city, my body was finally able to cleanse itself of the bacteria. 

To this day, now that my body doesn&#039;t have that level of bacteria in it, I still can&#039;t drink the water at my parents. 

The fact that you rarely get food poisoning has little to do with the fact that your parents were dumb enough to not check out the water table and well status in an old farm house and more to do with the fact that 99 percent of food poisoning is actually a virus and not a bacteria (such as the flu).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I just carry a bottle of GermX (or equivalent) with me wherever I go. Every part of a bathroom is teeming with bacteria. Washing your hands only to turn the sink off (thus touching the handle that your unwashed hand had just touched) is counter-productive. Plus, most bathrooms don&#8217;t stock anti-bacterial hand soap and opt for the cheap lotion based kind.</p>
<p>Also, @notolaf: The people in Mexico don&#8217;t get sick from the water because their body is used to the bacteria in it, just as your body was used to the bacteria in your well water. Another source would cause you to get sick. </p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s good for you. In fact, it just displays your body&#8217;s amazing ability to contain infection and adapt itself to not need to expunge it. Your body assumes that you are smart enough to avoid bacteria, and thus because you&#8217;re drinking water teeming with poop microbes it does it assumes it&#8217;s the only source of water around and thus contains and adapts. </p>
<p>Even though the well at my childhood home was PROPERLY dug and away from sewage, it still had traces of bacteria from being in the ground. After I moved to the city, my body was finally able to cleanse itself of the bacteria. </p>
<p>To this day, now that my body doesn&#8217;t have that level of bacteria in it, I still can&#8217;t drink the water at my parents. </p>
<p>The fact that you rarely get food poisoning has little to do with the fact that your parents were dumb enough to not check out the water table and well status in an old farm house and more to do with the fact that 99 percent of food poisoning is actually a virus and not a bacteria (such as the flu).</p>
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		<title>By: notolaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>notolaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re all just jealous because your parents didn&#039;t love you enough to raise you on contaminated well water.

That&#039;s right - When I was twelve, my parents bought a farm, unaware that the old hand-dug well and the old hand-dug septic tank were too close to each other. It was a real fun time until they figured it out and started putting clorox down the well periodically.

I NEVER get food poisoning, even when everyone else around me is groaning with it. Ever.
Constant low-grade exposure to germs is good for you. Really. Think people who live in Mexico get sick from the water?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re all just jealous because your parents didn&#8217;t love you enough to raise you on contaminated well water.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right &#8211; When I was twelve, my parents bought a farm, unaware that the old hand-dug well and the old hand-dug septic tank were too close to each other. It was a real fun time until they figured it out and started putting clorox down the well periodically.</p>
<p>I NEVER get food poisoning, even when everyone else around me is groaning with it. Ever.<br />
Constant low-grade exposure to germs is good for you. Really. Think people who live in Mexico get sick from the water?</p>
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		<title>By: notolaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>notolaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 04:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hand sanitizer on unwashed hands just creates hands covered with sanitized fecal material. Which is fine with me if that&#039;s what you&#039;re into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hand sanitizer on unwashed hands just creates hands covered with sanitized fecal material. Which is fine with me if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re into.</p>
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		<title>By: kacky</title>
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		<dc:creator>kacky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 16:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d never begrudge a transgender person, knowing the screeching that happens when I try to bring my son into the ladies room. But no, unlike the handicapped stall, the separate bathroom is not for everyone. STOP USING IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d never begrudge a transgender person, knowing the screeching that happens when I try to bring my son into the ladies room. But no, unlike the handicapped stall, the separate bathroom is not for everyone. STOP USING IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Astonished</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astonished</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had never encountered this problem before, until I started at my current workplace - the cleaner had a whinge to me and took the obvious route of trashcan by the door - no angry notes needed.  Yay our cleaner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had never encountered this problem before, until I started at my current workplace &#8211; the cleaner had a whinge to me and took the obvious route of trashcan by the door &#8211; no angry notes needed.  Yay our cleaner!</p>
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		<title>By: VZG</title>
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		<dc:creator>VZG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Power used to make air dryers function causes less pollution than the power used to cut down trees; trees can only grow so fast; people often take more hand towels than they need, but rarely spend a long time at the air dryer; overuse of paper, in general, is more wasteful and harmful than power, etc. Are you going to argue that buying paper to burn in your fireplace is more efficient and clean than heating your home by electrical means, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power used to make air dryers function causes less pollution than the power used to cut down trees; trees can only grow so fast; people often take more hand towels than they need, but rarely spend a long time at the air dryer; overuse of paper, in general, is more wasteful and harmful than power, etc. Are you going to argue that buying paper to burn in your fireplace is more efficient and clean than heating your home by electrical means, too?</p>
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		<title>By: VZG</title>
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		<dc:creator>VZG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is, in its way, a disability, and large/handicap accessible stalls are available for their use as well.

Additionally, there is no way to police those stalls and restrooms. The people you are talking about more likely than not do not have microphobia or OCD, because there are people who simply &quot;like&quot; those restrooms, or are too selfish to wait at other appropriate restrooms.

At one older workplace of mine, we had one restroom that was used frequently by people coming in from the mall. Less than one in a hundred of those people were in wheelchairs, and less than one in twenty-five were anywhere near elderly; I&#039;d doubt even a tenth of those remaining could have had OCD, microphobia, or another disability that wasn&#039;t immediately apparent, but about half the people who went in there used the largest stall — the one meant to be handicap-accessible. People would go in there to try on (and sometimes steal) clothes from other stores, or to write on the walls, or just because it was some kind of novelty, I guess — but we couldn&#039;t police it, because not only did we not have the manpower, but there are legitimate disabilities, physical and otherwise, that are not immediately apparent to strangers, and determining who truly had them and who didn&#039;t would be nearly impossible.

Not only that, but, although it may be rude at times (especially when there are definitely handicapped people present, or when they aren&#039;t using it for its intended purpose, or are making a mess) it really isn&#039;t a restricted area. It&#039;s a bathroom built to be used by everyone. I mean, you don&#039;t tell people who are capable of walking without trouble they can&#039;t use the handrail on the stairs, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is, in its way, a disability, and large/handicap accessible stalls are available for their use as well.</p>
<p>Additionally, there is no way to police those stalls and restrooms. The people you are talking about more likely than not do not have microphobia or OCD, because there are people who simply &#8220;like&#8221; those restrooms, or are too selfish to wait at other appropriate restrooms.</p>
<p>At one older workplace of mine, we had one restroom that was used frequently by people coming in from the mall. Less than one in a hundred of those people were in wheelchairs, and less than one in twenty-five were anywhere near elderly; I&#8217;d doubt even a tenth of those remaining could have had OCD, microphobia, or another disability that wasn&#8217;t immediately apparent, but about half the people who went in there used the largest stall — the one meant to be handicap-accessible. People would go in there to try on (and sometimes steal) clothes from other stores, or to write on the walls, or just because it was some kind of novelty, I guess — but we couldn&#8217;t police it, because not only did we not have the manpower, but there are legitimate disabilities, physical and otherwise, that are not immediately apparent to strangers, and determining who truly had them and who didn&#8217;t would be nearly impossible.</p>
<p>Not only that, but, although it may be rude at times (especially when there are definitely handicapped people present, or when they aren&#8217;t using it for its intended purpose, or are making a mess) it really isn&#8217;t a restricted area. It&#8217;s a bathroom built to be used by everyone. I mean, you don&#8217;t tell people who are capable of walking without trouble they can&#8217;t use the handrail on the stairs, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: VZG</title>
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		<dc:creator>VZG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, definitely. Personally I&#039;d expect that people who really have OCD/microphobia would be less likely to drop trash behind them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, definitely. Personally I&#8217;d expect that people who really have OCD/microphobia would be less likely to drop trash behind them.</p>
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		<title>By: VZG</title>
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		<dc:creator>VZG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People bring food into the ladies&#039; room. FOOD. Into the stalls, even! And I&#039;m talking stuff in open containers. This seems to happen a lot at movie theaters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People bring food into the ladies&#8217; room. FOOD. Into the stalls, even! And I&#8217;m talking stuff in open containers. This seems to happen a lot at movie theaters.</p>
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		<title>By: VZG</title>
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		<dc:creator>VZG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People don&#039;t LOOK for trashcans. At my place of work, people leave their paper towels on the floor even though there&#039;s a trashcan only a few feet from the door; you can&#039;t exit the bathroom without passing it.

If you seriously have a problem touching the door, I&#039;d recommend carrying hand sanitizer. Even places that provide paper towels run out of them at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People don&#8217;t LOOK for trashcans. At my place of work, people leave their paper towels on the floor even though there&#8217;s a trashcan only a few feet from the door; you can&#8217;t exit the bathroom without passing it.</p>
<p>If you seriously have a problem touching the door, I&#8217;d recommend carrying hand sanitizer. Even places that provide paper towels run out of them at some point.</p>
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		<title>By: VZG</title>
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		<dc:creator>VZG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...if it&#039;s irrational germophobia (redundant), telling someone to &quot;get over it&quot; is illogical. Phobias are by their nature illogical fears, and it&#039;s not as though people who have them aren&#039;t aware of the fact that their fears are illogical. If they COULD just &quot;get over&quot; them, they would.

Not that that excuses tossing trash on the floor, though. I&#039;ve yet to hear of anyone having a phobia related to basic manners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;if it&#8217;s irrational germophobia (redundant), telling someone to &#8220;get over it&#8221; is illogical. Phobias are by their nature illogical fears, and it&#8217;s not as though people who have them aren&#8217;t aware of the fact that their fears are illogical. If they COULD just &#8220;get over&#8221; them, they would.</p>
<p>Not that that excuses tossing trash on the floor, though. I&#8217;ve yet to hear of anyone having a phobia related to basic manners.</p>
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		<title>By: VZG</title>
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		<dc:creator>VZG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 07:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s actually much more consistent with microphobia/&quot;germaphobe&quot; behavior. OCD may relate to cleanliness, but does not always. It&#039;s Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, not Obsessive Cleaning Disorder, and all it means is that a person has behaviors or habits that they cannot break out of; some people with OCD don&#039;t have issues with worrying about cleanliness at all, and instead do things like switching lights on and off in a particular pattern, or counting everything, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s actually much more consistent with microphobia/&#8221;germaphobe&#8221; behavior. OCD may relate to cleanliness, but does not always. It&#8217;s Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, not Obsessive Cleaning Disorder, and all it means is that a person has behaviors or habits that they cannot break out of; some people with OCD don&#8217;t have issues with worrying about cleanliness at all, and instead do things like switching lights on and off in a particular pattern, or counting everything, etc.</p>
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