You’re saying YOU have more than an eighth-grade education?

September 10th, 2012 · 51 comments

Our anonymous submitter in Toronto spotted this note — one copy in the elevator, and three copies taped to a couch that had been left near the dumpster in the building’s parking lot.

THIS MESSAGE GOES OUT TO THE MORON IN THIS BUILDING WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO PUT THEIR COUCH AND BLANKET IN THE PARKING LOT. ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS IN THIS BUILDING WHO HAVE MORE THAN A GRADE EIGHT EDUCATION, IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK THAT YOU ACTUALLY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OVER YOUR CHOICES AND DISPOSE OF YOUR PURCHASES? IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT YOU BOUGHT SUCH AND UGLY COUCH, BUT EVEN WORSE THAT YOU MAKE OTHER PEOPLE STARE AT IT. THE FACT THAT YOU LEFT IT HERE MEANS ONE OF TWO THINGS. YOU EITHER HAVE THE MENTALITY OF A FIVE YEAR OLD OR YOUR RICH PARENTS BABIED YOU INTO THINKING THIS WAS ACCEPTABLE BEHAIVIOUR. EITHER WAY, IT'S THE SAME THING. GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER. YOU'RE THE REASON EVOLUTION TAKES SO LONG.

Dear Sir: Your “behaiviour,” spelling, and poor understanding of evolutionary theory don’t suggest that you graduated at the top of your class, either.

THIS MESSAGE GOES OUT TO THE MORON IN THIS BUILDING WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO PUT THEIR COUCH AND BLANKET IN THE PARKING LOT. ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS IN THIS BUILDING WHO HAVE MORE THAN A GRADE EIGHT EDUCATION, IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK THAT YOU ACTUALLY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OVER YOUR CHOICES AND DISPOSE OF YOUR PURCHASES? IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT YOU BOUGHT SUCH AND UGLY COUCH, BUT EVEN WORSE THAT YOU MAKE OTHER PEOPLE STARE AT IT. THE FACT THAT YOU LEFT IT HERE MEANS ONE OF TWO THINGS. YOU EITHER HAVE THE MENTALITY OF A FIVE YEAR OLD OR YOUR RICH PARENTS BABIED YOU INTO THINKING THIS WAS ACCEPTABLE BEHAIVIOUR. EITHER WAY, IT'S THE SAME THING. GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER. YOU'RE THE REASON EVOLUTION TAKES SO LONG.

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51 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Hannah

    Harsh, but the note writer is correct; dumping furniture when at an apartment complex is not allowed. We have this issue in my building and it doesn’t get collected with the trash unless big fees paid, so it stays there looking ugly.

    Sep 10, 2012 at 9:40 pm   rating: 37  small thumbs up

     
  • #2   nick

    the writer of this note sounds like an axe wound. i wish i knew them so i can punch them in their self righteous face. someone this uptight is the main cause of why “evolution takes so long”.

    couches left by a dumpster are taken by the city as they are just considered oversized items.

    Sep 10, 2012 at 9:43 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   Trish

      Well where I live the council won’t take it. I’m with the letter writer, take some responsibility and dispose of the item properly yourself. Rubbish like that lying around devalues property.

      Sep 10, 2012 at 9:53 pm   rating: 36  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.2   Jami

      We have a “large garbage collection day” every so many months. Only then can people put out things like couches, chairs, washers, etc.

      Since this seems from the pictures to be in halfway decent shape, the better thing to do would be to donate it to a thrift store like The Salvation Army. They’ll come pick up.

      Sep 10, 2012 at 10:16 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.3   H for Toy

      I imagine that the couch was thrown out by someone who was moving and didn’t need it. All this passive-aggressiveness and bad spelling for nothing. It’s sad, really.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 7:59 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.4   merkin4

      Two words:

      Bed Bugs.

      If it’s infested, Sally’s or Goodwill doesn’t want it or need it. I have a pickup and can take stuff to the dump, but I don’t have unlimited Saturdays for all the phone calls I get from people asking me to help them buy/discard furniture.

      The only bad move here is not getting the couch into the dumpster. That can be accomplished with either a heave/ho/mighty throw, or by breaking the couch apart and getting it into the trash (easier than it sounds).

      Sep 11, 2012 at 11:40 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.5   Jami

      The question is though is it infested or is the person just not into giving things to thrift stores? And if it is bedbugs couldn’t they just have it seriously fumigated? I mean, their entire apartment would’ve had to been done anyway.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 4:33 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #3   Marnee

    But without a porch couch, err parking lot couch, where will the homeless people sleep?

    Sep 10, 2012 at 9:47 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

     
  • #4   Ms Ann Thropic

    While I think that the letter writer is a pretentious tool, he’s got a point. I figure if the dumper got the couch as far it is, why not just dispose of it properly? Around here, if it’s in the Dumpster, it goes.

    Sep 10, 2012 at 10:04 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

     
  • #5   Limeliberator bang

    Let’s be honest here. “You’re the reason evolution takes so long” is destined to be a classic line. In fact, I can’t wait to use it tomorrow on one of my co-workers. ;)

    Sep 10, 2012 at 10:31 pm   rating: 64  small thumbs up

    • #5.1   Allison Wonderland

      I can think of a few good applications as well. I think I’ll have to borrow it from you.

      Oct 3, 2012 at 9:36 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #6   cmz

    I’m Canadian and have to say, there must be something about multiple notes in Toronto. Last visit I saw three flower boxes side by side, each with the same note attached – about someone stealing their recycling bin.

    The super has a right to be pissed. He should go door to door and see who is either missing a couch or has a brand new one, but he likely won’t cos he’s Canadian.

    Sep 10, 2012 at 11:08 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   The Elf

      I guess they’re counting on repetition. I’ve been told that repetition is the best way to get a message across. The more you say something, the better it sticks in your brain. So a note, repeated three times, would be more likely to be remembered. By repeating the message, in different places, the notewriter increases the likelihood of people reading it. In all, repetition is an effective means of communication.

      Annoying as all hell, though.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 7:59 am   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.2   Ace of Space

      So, the note writer is assuming that the guilty party will read all three notes? Why would anyone do that?

      Sep 11, 2012 at 10:58 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #7   AW

    I find the ALL CAPS the most offensive part of the note. The person who wrote the note has a bit too much free time on their hands but the person who left the couch is an asshat. The misspelling of “behaiviour” is only partly wrong. We spell it “behaviour” in Canada, eh?

    Sep 10, 2012 at 11:24 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   Mr. Fricasee

      With very few exceptions, misspellings are generally only partly wrong.

      Sep 14, 2012 at 2:52 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #8   SeeYouInTea

    I don’t live in an apartment, but whenever I have big trash items (TVs, furniture, etc) I call Hannah’s Home to come and pick it up, because our trash people won’t pick it up.

    Sep 10, 2012 at 11:41 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #9   Missy

    TEAM NOTE WRITER! It was one typo (behaiviour) and it is sooo annoying when people leave furnishings out and expect that the garbage men will collect them

    Sep 11, 2012 at 12:19 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   Kirsten

      Well, that typo and “a eighth grade education” (as opposed to “an”) – but I agree with the sentiment.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 2:09 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.2   Fatfreddy

      But it says ” a grade eight education”, so that’s fine.
      Team notewriter on this one.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 2:18 am   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #10   makfan bang

    Boy, improper disposal of crap is such a universal problem. Does anyone have any story of a case where leaving a note actually made a bit of difference?

    Sep 11, 2012 at 1:13 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #11   Tatterdemalion

    Man, harshing on the poor, much?

    Not everyone has a vehicle available to them, believe it or not… and usually people who dump an old couch at an apartment complex have just moved out of it (often, because they can’t afford the rent) so most likely they haven’t even seen the note. But sure, note writer, have a good cry in print if it makes you feel like your own position is any less precarious.

    Sep 11, 2012 at 3:56 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   Tatterdemalion

      Oh, I do agree, though, that it would have been easier/better to donate it.

      At the very least, every town with Craigslist has some enterprising people with a pickup truck who will come get broken crap and old furniture… or students who are even poorer and think a POS couch is better than none.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 3:58 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #12   Smokey

    My town requires an appointment, $50.00, and that you put a sofa, in your own parking spot to be disposed of……….Go team note writer!

    Sep 11, 2012 at 5:47 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #12.1   Vulpis

      Wow. Now *that* is going overboard, I think–then again, this is an apartment building you’re talking about, rather than the smaller townhouse apartments I’m used to dealing with. (Here, large items that people either are too lazy/selfish to take to Habitat Resale or don’t feel are usable are left curbside–and curb-cruising to see what’s been left out by students at the end of a semester is fairly common). With a large building, I could easily see this rule being made due to just how clogged the parking lot could get if a lot of people left their old furniture in that small space at the same time, as compared to spreading it along multiple house-fronts on a block.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 2:37 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #13   The Elf

    Kind of sounds elitist, though, doesn’t it? They could have gotten the message across without putting his nose in the air about it. FWIW, my grandfather did have an 8th grade education. Like many farmer’s sons, he dropped out to help his parents around the farm. After WWII, he moved to the rust belt and built cars in the manufacturing boom, and in doing so was able to give his children the education opportunities he didn’t have. They all finished high school and some finished college. In any case, he wouldn’t have left refuse strewn about because he was very, very proud of his property. He also wouldn’t have thrown away anything that was at all repairable or useable, like many who grow up poor.

    People with “rich parents” generally don’t have kids who drop out, so the note is internally inconsistent. They might be too spoiled rotten to do anything with their lives, but chances are good they made it through high school, even if the parents had to pay off the school officials to let them graduate. Money talks.

    Try again, note-writer! And this time, stick to the facts.

    Sep 11, 2012 at 7:54 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #13.1   Rei

      Just because you went to school doesn’t mean you got an education. You have to make an effort for that. I think that was the point the writer was trying to make, not that it was someone who had to drop out before high school (which you can’t actually do in most Westernized nations).

      Sep 11, 2012 at 8:41 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.2   The Elf

      That’s not the impression I got from the note. I think it’s pretty clear that he is insulting the couch dumper by calling him uneducated or else he would have understood what he needed to do with his discarded couch.

      It is a recent development that prevents drop-outs before high school in the USA. So, it’s entirely possible that there are still people with 8th grade or less educations out there. My grandfather has long since died, but many of his generation are still alive and well and possibly dumping couches.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 11:04 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.3   FeatherBlade

      “8th grade education” isn’t the same now as it was back when, though. Before WW2, kids started school at 8 years of age, attended class for 8 years, and finished when they were 16, sufficiently educated to run a farm or other business, or enter a trade like bricklaying or plumbing. The only reason one would continue one’s schooling after that (at a college or university) is if one wanted to enter a profession like law, medicine or teaching.

      I’ve seen the 8th grade graduation exams from that era; most college students today would be hard-pressed to pass it.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 12:58 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.4   L

      My school sucked. I flunked 9th grade and dropped out in 10th grade due to social anxiety. Nobody noticed. That was in, like, 2006. (Also, my high school was 7-12.)

      Sep 15, 2012 at 7:56 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #14   Dane Zeller

    I just don’t understand. You put a little cupcake in the office refrigerator and someone steals it. You put a perfectly good couch and blanket in the hallway, and no one takes it. People, how are we going to get things distributed properly if we can’t count on public theft!

    Sep 11, 2012 at 8:14 am   rating: 42  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   Chris Miller

      That’s actually the accepted way to get rid of still usable furniture in my city – put it on the footpath, and someone who wants it will take it. The only problem is if it rains before someone does, unfortunately. (Though not so bad for wood or metal.) I don’t think they do it in the high income areas but in the east it’s *really* not unusual to see furniture sitting by the street.

      Sep 12, 2012 at 3:52 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #14.2   Tatterdemalion

      Yep. My city too… the “FREE” notice typically helps things depart in a hurry.

      Sep 12, 2012 at 5:21 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #14.3   notolaf

      Not unusual in my Arizona neighborhood, either. And heck, when we lived in the sticks back east, only a social neanderthal would have put usable items INSIDE the dumpster.

      Sep 15, 2012 at 4:15 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #15   AP

    The health department in my city goes around putting orange stickers with pictures of bedbugs on thrown-out sofas and mattresses on Move Out Day. No one wants used furniture any more, unless they know and trust the original owner.

    But yeah, I never understood why people get all bent out of shape when people move out and throw away furniture that doesn’t fit in the truck, and OMGZ it’s at the curb. Where else are they supposed to put it, next to the three trash barrels in the building basement?

    Sep 11, 2012 at 9:55 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   The Elf

      You’re supposed to follow your jurisdiction’s / housing development / apartment rules regarding disposition of bulk items. That varies a lot, but it could be leaving it at the curb. Or it could be arranging for private haul-away. Or anything in-between.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 11:08 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.2   Vulpis

      Indeed…and something else to keep in mind is that this looks to be an apartment building, which has rather a different situation if multiple tenants decide to leave out furniture at once, as compared to individual townhouse-style apartments, where the pile would be spread out a bit more down the block.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 2:40 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #16   Kwyjor

    Perhaps whoever left the couch there should have attached a note to it advising the reader that it was clean and in good condition and emphasizing that he hoped someone might make use of it?

    Now, if it really was total rubbish shredded to pieces and missing the cushions, that would be a different matter.

    Sep 11, 2012 at 9:57 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #17   Poltergeist

    Boy, I’m glad I don’t live wherever the hell you people live. In my apartment complex, we are free to dispose of furniture by placing it by the dumpsters and it is taken away within a reasonable time frame. In fact, this is the best place to place large unwanted items because on many occasions, it’ll be gone the next day when somebody else in the complex takes it.

    Frankly, I don’t know what else you people would have had us do with it. We have no place to store it, nobody who wanted it, and we needed it out of our apartment for the new furniture. We don’t have a truck to take it somewhere, and we don’t have extra money to spare on getting rid of unwanted things (new couches were a gift).

    I’m sorry our couches would have soiled your otherwise pristine view of our dumpsters and parking lot, but you’ll get over it. And no, the notewriter doesn’t have a point. 3 postings of the same note in all caps, insulting the appearance of the couch and the intelligence/evolutionary impact of the person who was probably just trying to make room in his/her apartment. Classic signs of an insecure person looking for just about any excuse to feel superior to somebody else, or in other words – an asshole.

    There, I feel better now. Carry on.

    Sep 11, 2012 at 10:23 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   Vulpis

      No problem! We’re sorry that your car got blocked from being able to leave because of the other dozen tenants in the building who had the same idea at the same time, causing the pile to spill into the main part of the parking lot!

      That is kind of a key difference here, really–smaller townhouse apartments like the kind I live in, no problem, since you’re leaving it on a curb in the front of your own separate yard. But between the picture (which looks like a parking garage, rather than an outside parking lot), and the mention that this was left on an *elevator*, it sounds like there would be a rather large mess if multiple tenants all did it at once at the end of semester or something.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 2:46 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #17.2   Poltergeist

      How common of an occurrence do you think it would be to have a bunch of tenants getting rid of so many large pieces of furniture at the same time that they would clog up the parking lot? That has never happened anywhere I’ve lived.

      Point is, in the rare cases that I need to dispose of large pieces of furniture, I don’t have much of a choice but to leave it by the dumpster – you know, the place where every other unwanted item is disposed of. As long as it isn’t blocking any cars or passageways, why should any of my neighbors give a hoot?

      Sep 12, 2012 at 2:31 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #17.3   Brian

      So Poltergeist, you think it’s OK to push your problems onto others rather than take responsibility for them yourself?

      I know what it’s like to be broke, where an unexpected $20 expense is a catastrophe. I would never in my wildest dreams think that dumping my trash in a public area, where it won’t be picked up is acceptable.

      Sep 14, 2012 at 2:35 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #17.4   Poltergeist

      Public area = right next to the dumpsters, not blocking anybody’s access anything (cars, pathways, etc). The dumpster area is surrounded by a fence. The furniture was, in fact, picked up.

      I know it must be fun to judge others and pretend you’re a martyr, but believe me, you’re not.

      Sep 14, 2012 at 7:27 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #18   8lackie

    First world, white people problems.

    Sep 11, 2012 at 10:55 am   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   redheadwglasses

      Right, because people of color here in American never dump unwanted junk near Dumpsters.

      Sep 11, 2012 at 12:24 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #19   annepanny

    AND! That’s a motherfucking Missoni for Target bedspread. Fuuuuuuuuuck.

    Sep 11, 2012 at 12:55 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #20   Amy in Toronto

    I’ve lived in apartment buildings in Toronto for most of my adult life and I’m frankly surprised that this piece of furniture didn’t get swiped almost immediately. I once left a damaged motorcycle helmet in the area next to our dumpster (with a note saying that the helmet was no longer safe since it had been in an accident) and someone still took it.

    There’s no excuse for leaving it for days at a time. Toronto is part of Freecycle, where there is always SOMEONE who wants your s@#! so long as it’s free.

    Sep 12, 2012 at 12:16 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #21   Jessi

    Maybe they left it there in case someone else might want to take it. I see furniture sitting outside a lot around here, college town, and it usually gets picked up by students who want it. I only saw the one spelling mistake, some common grammar mistakes, though.

    Sep 12, 2012 at 2:45 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #22   Zorin

    Another vote for “someone else might be able to use it”. In our neighborhood we frequently leave large unwanted furniture on the curb. Often it is gone within hours as someone sees it and decides they can make use of it.

    I’d rather do this than just take it to the dump; what’s the sense in putting more stuff in a landfill when someone can keep using it? This is recycling at its absolute best.

    Sep 13, 2012 at 3:29 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #23   spike

    Stupid, lazy, clueless, selfish, inconsiderate trolls are everywhere, throughout the world.

    Sep 20, 2012 at 8:23 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
  • #24   mike

    Not exactly passive, but funny lol

    Sep 20, 2012 at 6:58 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     

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