No Soup for You!

February 11th, 2013 · 79 comments

Writes Jonathan in the UK: “Nick, bless him, diligently cleans the office microwave when he’s at work every Sunday morning. By Monday, the smell of bleach has usually gone. However, I think the latest soup splattering may have pushed him over the edge.”

I spent a fair few minutes making this oven clean on Sunday and in 24 hours it is again covered in soup -  Firstly drinking soup is the act of a fool as its salt content will contribute to high blood pressure but leaving an oven in this state is plain unpleasant -  It means that those of us that that (sic) have basic hygiene standards now can not use the microwave oven unless we clean it after you use it.  Please if you had soup on Monday can you consider your actions and what you have left for others.  NP

related: If you thought your microwave was dirty…

FILED UNDER: food · microwave · office · U.K.


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  • #1   GA Peach

    Team Nick, for sure! There is nothing more disgusting than a dirty communal microwave.

    Feb 11, 2013 at 1:21 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   Gwan

      The thing is, if you routinely clean a microwave every time (i.e. once over with a damp sponge) it’s ridiculously easy to keep clean. Nick deserves a medal for dealing with a week’s worth of everyone’s baked-on splatter though. I kind of get it in a communal setting, but always find it weird when people let their home microwaves get that way (I’m not a neat freak or anything either).

      Feb 11, 2013 at 4:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.2   Rene

      @Gwan, you should probably not come to my house then. :/

      Feb 11, 2013 at 6:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.3   Heloise

      Actually, even a week’s worth of baked on splatter is ridiculously easy to clean if you nuke a glass of water for 2-3 mins. The steam does all the work, just wipe with a sponge (w/soap, of course, splatters tend to be greasy business).

      Feb 13, 2013 at 2:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.4   L

      I’m too short to reach into my microwave (it’s at a weird angle and I’m short) and my mother never cleans it so I haven’t done it in a while because I rarely use it. (I have microwave issues.)

      Feb 21, 2013 at 6:01 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #2   Tammy

    Yeah, have to side with Nick on this one..

    Feb 11, 2013 at 1:22 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #3   Rachel

    Nick’s right, but one does have to wonder if he didn’t have too much soup himself considering the way his own bloodpressure seems to be rating.

    Feb 11, 2013 at 1:29 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   Captain Hampton

      He may exhibit some food snobbishness, but if the tone of the note is any indication his blood pressure is perfectly fine.

      Feb 11, 2013 at 5:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #4   Claire

    Nick is right about the messy microwave, but I’m not sure he’s right about soup. Surely there’s only so much salt in soup as you put in it (if you make your own)? Don’t take it out on the soup, Nick.

    Feb 11, 2013 at 1:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   belle

      Claire, you need to read the back of a soup can….the sodium levels are outta sight!! Any homemade food is a different story.

      Feb 11, 2013 at 2:27 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.2   Denny

      There’s probably more salt than one would realise in many a homemade soup, too. Those packaged vegetable stocks for soup are usually mostly salt, so adding two or three will usually send the salt content of the resulting soup sky-high.

      Feb 11, 2013 at 4:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.3   Gwan

      Homemade soup is so easy and much better than canned (or worse, packet)! I agree there’s a ton of salt in stock cubes though, but I buy the low-salt versions. (I await the person who will inform me how easy it is to make your own stock – a bridge too far for this apartment-dwelling singleton I’m afraid.)

      Feb 11, 2013 at 4:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.4   shepd

      Took a look at the back of the can of soup on my desk. Compared it to the alternative things my lazy ass is likely to make. Decided the soup beats out Swanson’s.

      Feb 11, 2013 at 4:55 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.5   The Elf

      Gwan, it is easy to make your own stock. That said, I rarely do. It’s just too damn time consuming and I don’t have the freezer space to store it all. Like you, I generally buy low-salt stock and call it a day. But it is easy!

      If I roast a chicken, I sometimes get motivated to make stock out of the carcass. Depends on what else I have going on, though.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 7:04 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.6   H for Toy

      Have you tried it in the crockpot, Elf? Throw the carcass, etc in on low for the day, and voila, stock with minimal effort.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 7:33 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.7   The Elf

      Yeah, I’ve tried it. It still takes time I don’t have on the weekends. Every once in a while I get motivated. Can’t do it on the weekdays because I’m gone too long and it turns to mush. When I replace my crockpot, I’m going to see about getting one with a timer. But until then….

      And there’s still the freezer space issue.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 10:58 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.8   Karen

      Have you tried a pressure cooker?

      Feb 13, 2013 at 6:43 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.9   The Elf

      Still a freezer space issue! And I don’t have a pressure cooker and am not willing to another appliance. That’s a storage space issue!

      Feb 13, 2013 at 7:11 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #4.10   H for Toy

      Have you thought about buying another freezer, just for stock? Maybe some extra cabinets in the garage for storing more kitchen appliances? Quitting your job, growing a garden, raising chickens and taking up the whole foods lifestyle?

      I usually just make one big pot of soup with all the stock at once, because we like leftovers for lunch the next day, and there are enough of us to polish it off, so I wasn’t really thinking about freezer space when I suggested the crockpot.

      Feb 13, 2013 at 10:37 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #5   Deanna

    We had the same issue at our office. The solution was far more direct with a note on the microwave that now reads: “Cover your food or DO NOT USE”. It sounds PA, but it wasn’t, given that the woman who put up the sign sent out an e-mail to our small unit (about 20 people) to let us all know she did it. It’s actually worked, too!

    Feb 11, 2013 at 1:51 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #6   Jenn50

    I’m SO torn! On the one hand, I’m totally Team “Clean up your own mess”, but on the other hand, I’m definitely Team “You have no idea how much salt is in my soup, and relatively few cases of hypertension are caused by dietary sodium, so STFU about my food choices”.

    Feb 11, 2013 at 2:03 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   spoko

      I get what you’re saying about the sodium, but it doesn’t in any way make me lean towards Team Microwave Grime. Anybody who weekly cleans out the communal microwave can say whatever the fuck he wants about the food choices of the asshole who sullies it the very next day.

      Feb 11, 2013 at 3:00 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.2   The Elf

      Yeah, the physical labor involved sort of gives him the right to gripe. If he was just bitching about the microwave without actually doing anything, it would be different.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 6:57 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.3   NonnyMus

      On this planet, about 25% of hypertension cases overall are salt reactive, which turns out to be a substantial number of cases in America. Just so you know, rates of salt reactive hypertension are higher among African-Americans.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 4:10 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #7   Who passed out the Haterade?

    Team Nick all the way. We had an @55hole named Brandon at my workplace who would routinely reheat something red and greasy uncovered, and it was ~not~ fun trying to get it off the ceiling, floor, and every wall of the microwave every couple of weeks. (I never used it myself, but I was the only one who would actually clean the microwave when it was my turn to clean the kitchen.)

    Feb 11, 2013 at 2:17 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   pooham

      Maybe Brandon will get hypertension from his extreme consumption of Chef Boyardee and the debilitating effects of the resulting stroke will force him to quit his job.

      Feb 11, 2013 at 3:37 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.2   H for Toy

      I had a coworker who used to add salt to her Chefboyardee… She covered the bowl when she used the microwave, so I was ok with it.

      Feb 11, 2013 at 8:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #8   PA Noter

    The microwave being filthy is a huge issue in our office, as well as the toaster oven and all other areas of the shared kitchen. However, one incident put it all in perspective.

    One day, a coworker set fire-yes, fire- to her microwavable Kraft Easy Mac because she forgot to put water in the cup and set it for 3 minutes!

    We work at an office that shares building space with one of our city’s Fire Stations. Needless to say when the fire alarm went off and the office filled with choking smoke and the firemen came running out to save us from their end of the building, that was some funny $hit! She was mortified.

    The microwave still works , permanently smells like smoke while still being filthy 99% of the time.

    Feb 11, 2013 at 2:22 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.1   SeeYouInTea

      I am so ashamed to admit this, but I did the exact same thing to some ramen noodles when I was about 14. Luckily, I caught it after it’d only been in the microwave for about 45 seconds, but the kitchen and microwave smelled like nasty smoke for a day, and I ruined my favorite soup bowl.

      Feb 11, 2013 at 5:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.2   PA Noter

      Forget to mention this was the second time we set the kitchen on fire at the Firestation/City offices.

      The firemen were out buying groceries the first time we did this and they got a 10-33 (Alarm sounding, audible) call over the mutual-aid radio (coverage to every FD agency’s radios throughout our ENTIRE county) with their own Firestation address indicating it was on fire! Since they were 10-7 (out of service) another station nearby responded instead. Our guys had to 10-19 (return to station) PDQ. We got to go home early because of excessive smoke and they had to stay and air out the building. LOL

      Feb 11, 2013 at 8:47 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.3   H for Toy

      I hope you baked them cookies… at home, and without burning them.

      Feb 11, 2013 at 9:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.4   PA Noter

      Made them my famous Red Chile Burritos actually. The public brings them sweets quite a bit and half the time they give that stuff to us.

      Feb 13, 2013 at 2:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #9   michelle

    maybe he should’ve included “put a napkin or lid over your soup while it cooks” in his note — i’m 90% team nick :-)

    Feb 11, 2013 at 2:31 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #10   Tesselara

    My brain stopped at “The act of a fool” and spent several delicious minutes picturing a soup eater with bells on their hat capering about the kitchen. (In which case, it’s amazing the mess was kept to the microwave).

    Feb 11, 2013 at 2:34 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   TRT

      He should have a word about those Clangers.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 4:48 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #11   Jolly

    Well, yeah, I’m not sure what kind of person isn’t covering their soup when they reheat it in a shared space. I mean, It is pretty easy to keep from having your soup splash everywhere, if you put even a split second of thought into it.

    But then he makes himself sound like a bigger moron by trying to sound like a nutrition authority, and just making him seem completely clueless.

    Maybe everyone at this office just sucks in their own special way.

    Feb 11, 2013 at 2:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   pooham

      When I cover soup it makes a mess b/c the paper towel sags into the soup.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 11:17 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #11.2   le lac

      I wet a paper towel and then spread that over the bowl. It doesn’t sag and stays in place.

      Feb 13, 2013 at 11:57 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #11.3   L

      When I make french fries, I microwave them for about 5 minutes to soften them so they’ll get crispy and yummy in the oven but be soft in the middle because I don’t have a deep fryer and that’s about the only time I use the microwave. Because we’ve had issues. But I just cover the bowl with a microwave-safe plate. It’s to trap the stream in, but I see no reason it wouldn’t work for soup.

      Also they make plastic wrap you can use in the microwave.

      Feb 21, 2013 at 6:08 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #12   pooham

    C’mon you fool! Get a clue and start using the microwave to heat up that healthy fish!

    Feb 11, 2013 at 3:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #13   Trekkie Gal

    Salt does not give you high blood pressure. Yes, it can aggravate your high blood pressure if you already have it, but salt doesn’t cause it!

    That being said, the soup eater needs to have some uncommon courtesy (it’s not common enough to be called common courtesy).

    Feb 11, 2013 at 3:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #13.1   The Elf

      Preach it, Trekkie Gal! While high sodium diets aren’t going to be particularly awesome for anyone, the harm is relative to that person’s own biology.

      Next he’ll tell us how eating eggs will clog our arteries or that a few gummy bears will give us diabetes.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 6:55 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.2   redheadwglasses

      I agree!

      Also: My coworker will complain about some packaged food being “so high in sodium.” I look at the label, it’ll say 30% or 35% of your day’s requirement of sodium. Well, it’s 1/3 of my food for the day, so I’m fine with it being 1/3 of my sodium for the day. (I don’t care for salt,s o I tend to avoid it, and rarely add it to anything.)

      Also: There is a special government (U.S.) agency whose sole purpose is to warn us of the dangers of salt, and it’s all a scam. People with specific medical conditions should avoid salt, but otherwise, the rest of us are fine.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 11:07 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.3   pooham

      So do people on low/no salt diets need to take iodine pills?

      Feb 12, 2013 at 11:19 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #14   RedDelicious

    Drinking soup? That’s the way to do it. Saves time from spooning it into your mouth. I say fuck you retards who sit on your high horses and look down on people who just want to enjoy some fucking soup. Courtesy? Sure it should be common. But leave food choices out of it. If it’s fish or popcorn yeah sure, have a yell. But soup? Stfu already.

    Feb 11, 2013 at 3:59 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   Mawwd

      We’ll take your opinion into consideration once you clean the communal microwave once a week.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 11:10 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #15   Batman

    But that soup was fucking delicious.

    Feb 11, 2013 at 4:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   UGH

      Bet yo mom’s soup is fucking delicious.

      Feb 13, 2013 at 2:40 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #16   greg house md

    I have to agree about cleaning up the microwave. I once worked with a woman who cooked a half a pound of bacon on the regular in the office microwave. Not only would she leave the nasty greasy paper plate in there, the walls, ceiling and the inside of the door would be coated with grease. I like bacon too, but c’mon, your mother doesn’t work here! My issue is the soup- it’s none of your business what I eat, if I want to eat a whole salt shaker, that’s my problem not yours…

    Feb 11, 2013 at 4:10 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #17   Joe Blow

    Perhaps his office mates are attempting to drink *chunky* soup, in which case it may actually qualify as the act of a fool..

    Feb 11, 2013 at 4:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   Allison

      This comment was so funny it made me snort at work

      Feb 26, 2013 at 9:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #18   Yeah, well

    If you leave your mess where I can see it (and have to clean it), I reserve the right to comment on your food choices. Don’t want me commenting? Leave no evidence.

    Feb 11, 2013 at 5:03 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   redheadwglasses

      Succinct and spot on!

      Feb 12, 2013 at 11:08 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #19   kermit

    This just goes to show that no good deed goes unpunished.

    Nick, why do you do this to yourself, man? Stahp!

    Feb 11, 2013 at 6:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.1   Bug

      Agreed. Taking on unnecessary responsibility generally only leads to unnecessary frustration. Doing something that everybody wants done does not mean that anybody will appreciate it.

      Feb 13, 2013 at 2:46 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #20   Jaid

    Socks.

    Hand over heart, I caught someone nuking her wet socks at work. Totally not the same as laying ‘em on a radiator, yo…not that we had radiators at work.

    And one time, I had to use a fire extinguisher on a foil wrapped sandwich someone set in the microwave while dashing off to the restroom.

    Sigh.

    Feb 11, 2013 at 6:07 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   Eileen

      If someone put their nasty wet socks in the microwave that we all use to heat up our lunches, that person would no longer work there by virtue of being DEAD! The rest of us would beat him/her for fouling the only microwave that works decently.

      Feb 11, 2013 at 7:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.2   H for Toy

      This is what scares me about having children… I see these stories and think… dear Lord, what if I forget to tell them that drying their socks in the breakroom microwave is frowned upon?!

      Feb 11, 2013 at 8:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.3   Seanette

      I’m honestly not sure drying socks in the microwave would even work. I am sure it’s grossly unsanitary and not the act of a remotely civilized adult human being.

      I’m on Nick’s side, and I think the comment about soup had more to do with how tired he is of cleaning it up (while wishing other microwave users would at least pick a less spatter-prone lunch) than concern about anyone’s health. If I were him, I’d probably be wishing some medical problem on the offender. Nothing deadly, just embarrassing and annoying.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 2:50 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.4   a-Arialist

      Ugh. The radiator (or in our case, air conditioning/heating vents) is bad enough – you don’t put worn stinky socks in public! If you absolutely *must* put them somewhere, at least put them in the loos, or the shower/change room, not where people are going to be preparing food.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 6:23 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.5   The Elf

      H for Toy, by the time they’re old enough to have a company breakroom, they should have developed common sense. If they haven’t, no amount of parental instruction could possibly help.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 6:49 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #20.6   H for Toy

      One would think, Elf. That’s what scares me. What kind of upbringing did these people have? I don’t even want to insult farm animals by wondering if they were raised in a barn. Of course, a parent can’t think of every little thing to tell their child to do or not do, but one has to wonder what happened between birth and adulthood to prompt this kind of behavior.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 7:38 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #21   Ely North

    Nick was so mad he couldn’t even tear the tape off the dispenser properly.

    Feb 11, 2013 at 9:31 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #22   Jami

    Bleach? Nick, darling, have you learned nothing from PAN or at least good old Kim and Aggie? White vinegar and lemons, my friend. Or if you’re one of those who don’t like the smell of hot vinegar, then wimp out with lemons and boiling water.

    But I’m still on your side, dude.

    Edit: I bet Rufus Sewell covers his soup before he microwaves it!

    Feb 11, 2013 at 10:11 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #22.1   The Elf

      I’d bet that anyone who volunteers to clean the shared microwave on a regular basis is one of those for whom nothing will do but bleach. Vinegar and lemons might clean it, but it won’t clean it *enough*. Some people just like that bleach smell because that is forever associated to them with “clean”.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 6:48 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #22.2   Jami

      See, bleach only works for me in the bathroom. I don’t like the smell of bleach in a food area. Whereas with white vinegar it’s a proven germ killer – I even use it when preparing the Thanksgiving turkey so I don’t spread around salmonella. And it’s safe for food. That’s what I want to smell around food. Not harsh, poisonous chemicals.

      I’m afraid, even though I’m on Nick’s side, I’d be leaving him PANs about not using deadly chemicals to clean a food prep area and buying the gallon size bottles of white vinegar to give him the hint.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 10:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #22.3   SilentPsycho

      An ex-housemate of mine used to use bleach for everything. He used to scream at me for not smothering the bath in bleach after each time I used it, despite me trying to explain that too much of it sets off my migraines. Since then, I’ve tried my best to stay far, far away from the foul-smelling stuff.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 5:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #23   bob loblaw

    What? No complaints about leaving time on the clock?

    On an unrelated point, what the hell is Nick doing in the office on a Sunday? Like the company gives a crap if you work yourself into an early grave. Sheesh.

    Feb 12, 2013 at 8:11 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #23.1   The Elf

      I assumed this is a shift, like what you get with tech support, emergency services, and retail.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 11:01 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.2   Nope

      Ugh, I hate it when people don’t clear the microwave. Yeah it only takes me a second as well, but it’s still annoying.

      Feb 12, 2013 at 11:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #23.3   loribl

      Some offices, such as real estate businesses, are open seven days a week. Sunday is just another day to work.

      Feb 24, 2013 at 1:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #24   Karen C

    What the world needs is a microwave oven that cleans itself after each use. Get to it, inventors!

    Feb 12, 2013 at 8:57 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #25   Nope

    Anything with liquid in it/liquid-based is likely to splash when microwaved. Thus it should be covered. I thought this was common sense? Same thing with greasy foods (i.e. bacon). Of course if your workplace doesn’t provide covering then I figure it’s their own fault. We shouldn’t have to provide our own paper towels. Personally, I clean my microwave at home when I feel like it. No one uses it but me, so it doesn’t bother me and plus it doesn’t get used anywhere near as often as the one at my job. That one stays surprisingly clean believe it or not. Not sure if someone is periodically cleaning it or we’re just lucky, but as long as I don’t get fish smell, burnt popcorn, or the like on my food, I’m good.

    Feb 12, 2013 at 11:12 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #26   bob loblaw

    How is Nick so sure that what is spewed around the microwave is soup?

    Feb 12, 2013 at 12:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #27   Adriana

    Salt doesn’t cause high blood pressure. In fact, salt helps regulate blood pressure. Maybe this guy needs more salt in his diet.

    Feb 12, 2013 at 3:22 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #28   Little Brother

    Microwave abuse is as inexcusable as it is universal, especially in workplaces ostensibly populated by rational adults.

    There’s always at least one person per workplace who chronically incinerates microwave popcorn.

    The last offender I worked with did this about once a week; she would rush back to the microwave way too late, LOUDLY fuss and apologize for creating the acrid stink and mess, and ALWAYS compound the felony by spraying at least half a can of cheap “air freshener” in various strong artificial scents.

    She considered this “damage control”, although she was the only person who held this view.

    Burned-popcorn reek alone is enough to gag victims, but the intense miasma of popcorn smoke mixed with chemically-based pine, lemon, or strawberry scent is as bad as tear gas.

    However, too bad Nick compromised his righteous wrath by digressing into irrelevant nutritional cavils.

    He reminds me of someone else I used to work with– a nice woman, but also prone to preach nutritional gospel.

    A deli near our office opened a great soup bar. So once, when this woman was wondering out loud what she should have for her “light lunch”, I suggested she try the deli soup and maybe a salad.

    She was polite but horrified at this suggestion, and promptly favored me with an analysis of the numerous toxic elements in soup– salt, fat, possibly MSG, etc., etc., etc.

    From her perspective, I might as well have suggested that she drink down a beaker of hydrochloric acid.

    Feb 12, 2013 at 3:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #29   Joe Blow

    I would like to see what it is that has apparently everyone in this thread so convinced that there’s absolutely no link between sodium and high blood pressure..

    Feb 14, 2013 at 9:37 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   The Elf

      Sodium does tend to make your blood pressure increase. But the real questions are: Does it raise it enough to be a problem? And, Is your blood pressure chronically high?

      If you normally have a healthy blood pressure, and you have a cup of soup on Monday, and the sodium in it causes your blood pressure to increase a bit, it does not mean that you have hypertension!

      That’s where the individual body comes into play. Some of us are more susceptable to high blood pressure problems than others (genetic predisposition), some of us show greater impact from sodium in our diet than others, and some of us have chronic high blood pressure problems already. For those people, it’s probably best to watch the sodium count. For the rest of us, enjoy the soup.

      Feb 14, 2013 at 10:48 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #29.2   Joe Blow

      Yeah, I’m someone who has to watch my sodium content, so I know *all about* everything sodium/blood pressure related — I don’t need the generic “everything in moderation” explanation.

      It seems other people in this thread do, though..

      Feb 17, 2013 at 11:22 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     

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