Today in “So this is a thing?”

October 6th, 2013 · 81 comments

Kathy in Wisconsin spotted this note in the breakroom of the hospital where she works. Writes Kathy: “The funny thing is, the shelf isn’t that high up — I’m 5’4″ and it’s about chest level with me — so whoever wrote that is either really, really short or really, really doesn’t like the feel of stirrers on their arm when they’re reaching for the sugar!”

I move the straw jar because I am a short person. It is very difficult to reach over the straws without touching them with my arm, when I am getting sugar packets. Please keep straws to the side not in the middle.

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81 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Jess

    I’m 4’11″ so, if it’s at your chest at 5’4″ it’s about face level for me. That would make it impossible to reach the stuff behind the straws without touching them which is kinda gross for whoever is planning to use the straws…
    Team note writer.

    Oct 6, 2013 at 11:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   herpderp

      4’11 3/4″ here. And yes, it matters. I won’t cook in my sister’s kitchen because her burners are chest-level for me.

      Oct 6, 2013 at 11:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.2   Marie-LaLa

      Apparently a lot of us 4’11 people here, haha. And yes, I agree with the notewriter since does anyone really want people touching the straws constantly? I’m actually also not thrilled with them not being covered since dust and whatever is getting on them, and probably those taller people breathing on them, too, as they lean over to get that sugar…

      Oct 6, 2013 at 11:37 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.3   a-Arialist

      I’m five foot, so in pretty much the same situation. And, my guess is that note writer is not moving things because she’s fussy about the feel of straws on her arm, but because she’s being considerate and doesn’t want to scatter them with dead skin cells by scraping against them with her arm.

      Yep, team note writer!

      Oct 7, 2013 at 5:05 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.4   spoko

      I love reading this site because it reminds me just how incredibly paranoid and anal people can be about “sanitary” issues. [I'm not speaking to the original post, which I assume is more about the feel of the straws on some short person's arm; I'm reacting here to the comments above.] You don’t like the fact that the straws are out in the open, where they can come in contact with dust and–horror of horrors–breath? Get a fucking grip.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 5:57 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.5   shwo! bang

      I’m 6′, so I’m totally touching those straws with my”arm.”

      Oct 7, 2013 at 7:28 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.6   H for Toy

      Is this when we start singing “Short People” by Randy Newman?

      Oct 7, 2013 at 7:52 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.7   Tesselara

      Team short people! My boyfriend is always amazed at the kinds of things that I can’t reach. He’s always saying, “you’re so short!” like he’s just realized it anew.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 11:23 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.8   Mo

      I’m short, and I have to say, that yeah, it might be about keeping the arm from touching the straws to protect others from arm cooties, and it may be the “feel” of the straws on the arm… but (I hate to believe that I am the only short klutz in the world) it may also be that awkwardly reaching for precariously placed items above your head MAY lead to all the straws getting knocked over and getting office floor cooties.

      Team Short FTW

      Oct 7, 2013 at 2:11 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.9   looopy

      @spoko (#1.4) are you kidding me? You don’t mind that the straw you’re about to put in your mouth has been touched by who knows how many people, some of whom don’t wash their hands after using the bathroom? It’s flu season, too. They need to switch to paper-covered straws.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 4:19 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.10   Nectaris

      Another 4’11″ person here. I agree with what someone else said in that to me it would be as much a concern of accidentally knocking them over as them getting dirty. I don’t find the straws being uncovered THAT bad, there are probably plenty of other things that you are eating off of that have been left in the open too, so this is probably the least of your concern if you are that worried about it.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 8:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.11   Eric S. Lynch

      Interesting fact: 4’10″ is the official cutoff for midget.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 8:55 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.12   Karen

      Dwarf, please, not midget. You do name the correct cutoff, however. :)

      Oct 9, 2013 at 2:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #2   Krisscop

    Because everyone knows how creepy stir aticks feel on your arm…

    Oct 6, 2013 at 11:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   herpderp

      Maybe she’s trying to be nice to the OCD members of her team who are blithely ignoring the fact that yes, other people do touch the things you put into your mouth.

      Oct 6, 2013 at 11:18 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.2   Jami

      Maybe she’s just being considerate and not wanting people to suck up her arm skin and sweat like bacon in a TGIFriday’s ice tea.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 1:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.3   Tesstarosa

      Or, maybe, she knows the person who puts the straws there is a hypochondriac and this is the kind of comment that will get hypochondriac to keep them out of the way.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 4:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.4   FeRD bang

      No hypochondriac worthy of the name leaves a big jar of uncovered straws sitting out in the open. (Not unless they’re angling for an excuse to burn through their sick days, anyway.)

      Oct 8, 2013 at 2:45 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #3   SomeoneElse

    I don’t want to use stirrers/straws that have been rubbing on someones arm at the hospital. I don’t find this PA at all. I find it considerate.
    Team Note Writer

    Oct 6, 2013 at 11:18 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #4   NRBT

    Presumably the writer’s intention is to avoid getting his/her germs (via the arm) on the straws – not because creepy. At the same time, open air straws are inherently creepy (not to me; I’m not too worried about germs – but I know that some do).
    And if they’re not spilling fake creamer and sugar all over every available surface (as at my workplace), then this place is already ahead in the not-disgusting competition.

    Oct 6, 2013 at 11:19 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #5   Guin

    Team note writer. In addition to the other perils of touching the straws, it’s probably not the most pleasant sensation to have them scratching your arm.

    Oct 6, 2013 at 11:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #6   Isaac

    Who buys unwrapped straws anyway? All kinds of stuff floating around a public kitchenette like that… germs, food splatter, dust. Just someone taking a straw is touching all of the others around it… Don’t cheap out, get the covered straws.

    Oct 6, 2013 at 11:29 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   Katie

      I’m pretty sure they’re coffee stirrers, and not straws. I have more often than not seen unwrapped stirrers than wrapped ones. I guess they’re assuming there will be no mouth touching going on.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 6:10 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.2   j-train

      I prefer spoons, so if I can I skip the stirrer straws. They hardly ever do any good.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 11:37 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #7   JayAre

    Why does a healthy adult need to drink with a straw? Don’t we have enough plastic crap fouling our environment?

    Oct 6, 2013 at 11:34 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   kipluck

      Team Note Writer, though I would not be very okay with unwrapped straws in a hospital. Oh, and BTW, JayAre while you AS a healthy adult may choose not to use straws, in a hospital there may be plenty of NOT so healthy people.

      Oct 6, 2013 at 11:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #7.2   Guy Paul

      I think those are stirrers, not straws “to drink with.” And they do make wooden stirrers.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 12:03 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #7.3   JDot

      Guy Paul, hospitals already charge enough, do we really want to have to pay for hospitals to have wooden stirrers?

      Oct 7, 2013 at 12:15 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #7.4   randomhookup

      They will just reuse tongue depressors to save money.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 7:04 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #7.5   Adriana

      You need more whimsy in your life. A colored straw can do that for you. Or a toilet-shaped coffee mug. You know, whichever.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 8:25 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #7.6   Helen

      1) it’s a hospital, so not everyone is healthy.
      2) people with sensitive teeth can be completely healthy and still prefer a straw to avoid making their teeth hurt
      3) If you’re drinking anything high in sugar, like fruit juice or soda, dentists suggest you use a straw, since it lessens the contact the sugar gets with your teeth
      4) people who have had their teeth whitened may choose to use a straw to avoid discolouring the teeth they’ve just paid to whiten
      5) ladies with a face full of makeup may prefer a straw to get as little contact with the liquid as possible.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 8:32 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #7.7   girly

      I just like drinking with straws. I find I drink more water when I use one, too. But I have stainless steel ones, so I’m not ‘fouling the environment’ with plastic crap.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 2:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #8   rebecca

    why don’t you move the stir sticks out of the way, get sugar, and then replace said sticks? I know, logic IS confusing.

    Oct 7, 2013 at 12:09 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.1   Wench

      Rebecca, there is NO place here on PA notes for any kind of logical or practical solutions. Kindly take your sensible suggestions elsewhere :-)

      Oct 7, 2013 at 12:40 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.2   Helen

      Alternatively, you could just put them to the side like notewriter has done, and not move them; it’s not like it inconveniences tall people to have them that way. It may only be a matter of a few seconds, but why create a needless task at all

      Oct 7, 2013 at 8:34 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #8.3   FeRD bang

      SRSLY. It seems clear to me the notewriter was constantly moving them out of the way, then finding them moved back again. Why go through that constant dance, either personally or in relay, when they can just be left out of the way? (And how, other than this note, would the person who keeps moving them back know why they keep getting moved, and why they might consider leaving them there?)

      Oct 8, 2013 at 2:49 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #9   SailorAlphaCentauri

    I’m not a fan of having all the stirrers out where anyone can touch (or sneeze) over them. I’m Team Keep Those Things In the Damn Box.

    Oct 7, 2013 at 12:39 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #10   Laura

    Once again I am reminded why I keep my own personal coffee spoon at work, in my desk drawer, clean and away from others.

    Oct 7, 2013 at 2:32 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #11   Cosmic

    Why not just move the sugar packets toward the front?

    Oct 7, 2013 at 3:08 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   The Elf

      See Wench @ 8.1. Logic and reason have no place here.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 1:25 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #12   LilyB

    If everyone would just drink their coffee black, none of this would be an issue. Duh.

    Oct 7, 2013 at 4:42 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #12.1   Snicklefritz

      Team black coffee FTW. The only time I adulterate my coffee with anything is when it’s bad coffee, then it has to be just half and half added.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 3:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #13   Phrane

    … because we know how harmful it would be to drink from a straw that had been in contact with someone’s arm …

    Oct 7, 2013 at 5:19 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #14   Racheal

    It may not have to do with sanitation. Being short and spastic, things like this get hit by my arm or shirt. As I pull my back, the container goes flying, stir sticks everywhere…

    Oct 7, 2013 at 7:17 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   H for Toy

      Then it is a sanitation problem.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 7:53 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.2   FeRD bang

      Ouchie! I hope you don’t pull your back, Racheal. Chiropractor visits are never fun. :-(

      Oct 8, 2013 at 2:50 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.3   Racheal

      LOL, how the heck did I not type arm? Pull my ARM back :)

      Oct 8, 2013 at 10:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #15   Racheal

    Ha, didn’t think of that! Though I would throw them out after swearing a lot under my breath as I played Pick Up Sticks.

    Oct 7, 2013 at 8:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #16   Raichu

    Yeah, to me that seems like they’re getting pretty worked up to write a note over that. Just move them? What’s convenient for you may not be convenient for everyone.

    Oct 7, 2013 at 10:52 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #17   H for Toy

    So. I decided to do a little experiment. I’m about 5’4″, and I asked my 4′-tall 6-year-old if she could reach a jar that I held up at chest level. She gave me a look like I had suddenly grown a second head, said “uh, no,” and went back to her peanut butter and honey sandwich. But the point is, if she hadn’t thought her mother was losing it, she could have. My scientific hypothesis is that, either this person is very, very short, the shelf is pretty deep, or the note-writer is crazier than I am.

    Oct 7, 2013 at 11:44 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #18   Paula K

    Like straws but don’t like plastic?…

    Here you go. Reusable, durable glass straws. “Bendy” ones even…

    Oct 7, 2013 at 12:11 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #19   Viv

    I’m 5’3″, and my daughter is about 4’10″, so we experimented. She reached with no problem, even considering the counter under the shelf is deeper, so she had to lean and stand on tiptoes a little. Either get a covered jar for the stirrers, or move them to the counter below – all mentioned issues solved ;)

    Oct 7, 2013 at 1:27 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #20   Ann D

    It’s all a ploy to get you to use less sugar.

    Oct 7, 2013 at 1:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #21   mutzali

    Actually, I don’t think that’s sugar. It looks like Equal to me. Can we start the rants about how evil artificial sweeteners are?

    Oct 7, 2013 at 3:08 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #22   Redheadwglasses

    I am home and in bed (going to nap soon) after having two cups of fluids drained frommy left lung and had four liver biopsies. All this for going to the doctor with what I though was pneumonia.

    So fuck coffee stir sticks. Fuck ‘em to death.

    Oct 7, 2013 at 3:09 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #22.1   H for Toy

      Oh goodness, redhead! Do they know what it is, if not pneumonia? Get a good nap, and let us know how you’re doing.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 3:12 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #22.2   Tesselara

      Redhead! Take a nap, I hope that makes you feel a little better–and no fucking straws. That sounds uncomfortable.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 6:01 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #22.3   redheadwglasses

      Heh, Tesselara!

      Toy: They’re thinking lung and liver cancer but I won’t know until Wednesday until I meet with the oncologist. Tomorrow is the ekg to check the buildup of fluid on my heart.

      I went to the minute clinic for “viral pneumonia” last week and she kicked my ass out to the ER immediately. At the end of that six-hour hospital visit, i went back to Target and hugged that physician’s assistant.

      Oct 7, 2013 at 10:21 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #23   Quite Contrary

    Team Get A Stool.

    Oct 7, 2013 at 5:10 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #24   1deprogrammed1

    I’m 5’7″, and I appreciate the fact that straws are provided at all.

    Oct 7, 2013 at 5:18 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #25   Belle

    4′ 11 1/2″ for me & I’d also be concerned about knocking stuff over.

    Quite Contrary-I’ve never worked in an office that had a stool I could use. It would be nice if one was available, though.

    Oct 7, 2013 at 10:48 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #26   Redheadwglasses

    I want to hang out with you people! I’m not quite 5’2″ and it would be nice to feel tall for a change.

    Oct 8, 2013 at 12:29 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #27   Tard

    I’m 6’4″ but have a little-person friend and the hassles of her daily life are somewhat amazing, even ignoring the shitty things people say to her.

    Oct 8, 2013 at 6:27 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #28   OMG

    It’s amazing what a bunch of petty whiners exist in this world.

    Oct 8, 2013 at 7:57 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #29   Kathy

    Hey guys, photo poster here – FYI ,those are plastic coffee stirrers, not drinking straws, and the floor I work on at the hospital houses administration, the insurance people and our communications/marketing people.
    As of today, the note is still attached to the jar and no one has moved it back to it’s original position!

    Oct 8, 2013 at 11:27 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #30   sunshynegrll

    When will you people accept that germophobes should be kept indoors?

    Oct 9, 2013 at 8:01 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #30.1   Lil'

      I think you are confusing germophobes with cats.

      Oct 9, 2013 at 1:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

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    At my job a couple years ago, we finally thought to purchase a wall-mounted soap dispenser for the sink in our small pantry/storage room. Just peel the paper off the sticky part on the back and voila! Problem was, every day I would stick the damn thing on the wall next to the sink in the perfect spot to use it, and the next day somebody would have taken it down and put it back inside a cabinet. The adhesive was pretty strong too. I made sure it was solidly stuck to the wall, so it’s not as if it might have constantly come loose and the person just finally gave up on trying stick it back on the wall after many failed attempts.

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    Oct 9, 2013 at 7:17 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #31.1   Seanette

      I’m totally baffled as to why someone kept taking down the SOAP next to a sink.

      Oct 10, 2013 at 2:51 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #32   miss moore

    5.6 here. She may have dinner lady arms. You know like wobbly.

    Oct 11, 2013 at 5:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #33   Identity Crisis

    How nice. Every time she scrapes her arm across the straws a little bit of her skin is “shaved” off and deposited in and on the straws. Everyone gets a little bit of “meat” in their drink. Why won’t someone at least think of the vegetarians?

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    Team Note Writer!

    I realize this site is pretty loose about what it classifies as “passive aggressive,” but this doesn’t fit in any way, shape, or form. It’s impossible for her to address the “culprit,” because she doesn’t know who s/h/it is. There doesn’t appear to be any logical reason for moving the straws from the location where she’s placed them, but she has a logical reason for putting them in the back. She shared her reasoning with everyone, so s/h/it could see it, and perhaps realize what s/h/it was doing.

    I think this was very considerate of her. I’m 5’2″, and if *I* had to constantly move something like this because someone kept moving it back, there wouldn’t be a note; there would be a whole bunch of bendy straws in the trash.

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