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Greetings from the Polar Vortex

January 8th, 2014 · 126 comments

Writes Steve in Boston: “This note cracks me up because it is, on the one hand, a request for more civility and, on the other hand, a not so thinly veiled threat.” (How so very Boston!)

By City of Boston law, I am entitled to save this spent after having spent an hour of backbreaking work shoveling. I hope you with respect your neighbors next time, you piece of shit. Love, Vigilante Justice P.S. Happy Holidays!

related: Can you dig it?

extra credit: Boston’s “parking chair” law []

FILED UNDER: Boston · not-so-veiled threats · p.s. · parking

126 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Eliavy

    Is that a calligraphy pen?

    Jan 8, 2014 at 3:46 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   Amanda

      Either that or a dry-erase marker or the equivalent.

      Jan 8, 2014 at 3:48 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #1.2   The Elf

      Honestly, with that degree of rage, I wouldn’t rule out blood. The scanner might have made it look darker than it is…..

      Jan 9, 2014 at 8:57 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #1.3   Beatus Mongous

      ^ I love these spammers and their fuzzy math.

      $21,162 per month at $66 per hour makes for 16 hours working per day.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 4:47 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

    • #1.4   The Elf

      That’s a few hours, right? Just a few?

      Jan 10, 2014 at 7:19 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #1.5   H for Toy

      It is when you’re shoveling.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 7:22 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #1.6   zenvelo

      But is there free parking?

      Jan 10, 2014 at 3:09 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #2   chris

    It should be “save this spot”.

    Jan 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   Alex

      I was wondering how one sates a spot.

      Jan 30, 2014 at 5:30 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

  • #3   YupBoston

    Somebody moved my trash can and stole my spot in Boston during Hercules. I left them a note and signed it with two bags of dog poop.

    Jan 8, 2014 at 4:09 pm   rating: 26  small thumbs up

  • #4   MGB

    Serious question: is it really legal in Boston? It’s illegal, but common, in Chicago and the city inevitably threatens to collect any items left in the street (but they do nothing).

    Jan 8, 2014 at 4:15 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   RHookup

      Not technically legal, but the most recent mayor said he will give you 48 hours after the end of a declared snow emergency to move your markers or it will be treated as trash.

      In application, you usually don’t want to piss off people willing to slash your tires.

      Jan 8, 2014 at 4:20 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

    • #4.2   John Reese

      I wonder if Marty Walsh will stick will he same policy?

      Jan 8, 2014 at 6:27 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #5   YupBoston

    Yah now you actually get 48 hours after a snow emergency has been lifted and Walsh has said he’ll protect it…maybe even extend it if the snow sticks around.

    Jan 8, 2014 at 4:30 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #6   Cap'n Merca

    This is the kind of behavior we see in third world countries. More evidence of American decline. Total lack of civility.

    Jan 8, 2014 at 4:40 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   The Elf

      …. It’s Boston. Did they have civility to begin with?

      Jan 9, 2014 at 8:59 am   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #6.2   warns

      Awwww… was someone mean to you in Boston once?

      Jan 9, 2014 at 12:18 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #6.3   GC

      Yes, it shows an enormous lack of civility to steal a spot that someone else dug out for their own use. You want a parking spot? Bring a shovel and dig one out for yourself.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 2:28 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

  • #7   Keith

    What kind of lame-0 takes an hour to shovel a parking space? Was it 8 feet deep?

    Jan 8, 2014 at 5:03 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   Roxy Random

      In the subzero weather that immediately followed the snow, it wasn’t safe to be out for more than fifteen minutes at a time. So he would have had to do it in stages, going in to warm up and then coming out to finish the job.

      Jan 8, 2014 at 5:26 pm   rating: 27  small thumbs up

    • #7.2   Keith

      Ehhhhh, no. Bundle up, no big whoop. I grew up in Alaska, live in Montana, deal with this all the time. Especially if you’re shoveling, you’ll stay warm, trust me.

      Jan 8, 2014 at 5:39 pm   rating: 24  small thumbs up

    • #7.3   1deprogrammed1

      In some places, yes. And considering the chill made it colder than Antarctica, it would take a while. Not to mention snow is some heeeeeaaaavy shit.

      Jan 8, 2014 at 6:31 pm   rating: 29  small thumbs up

    • #7.4   My name is Princess!

      Most Boston folks only have one shovel. Inevitably they use the wrong kind of shovel for the job at some point in the season. Also, Boston does not do even/odd day parking so that snow plows can plow snow off streets properly. So the cars parked on the street end up getting buried under a lot of snow.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 9:04 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #7.5   The Elf

      And it depends on the snow. We don’t get much snow in the DC ‘burbs, but when we get it, it tends to be snow followed by ice/freezing rain/sleet or melting slightly in the day and freezing solid at night. Sometimes you have to break up the ice to shovel the snow! Takes longer to clear than it looks like it should. And sometimes it all turns to slush, which makes it much easier to clear. That’s life on the rain/snow line.

      An hour to clear? Totally believable.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 9:51 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #7.6   Anonymous

      It took me 15 minutes just to remove the ice berg that the plow threw at the end of my narrow driveway. I believe it.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 3:54 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #7.7   The Beast Among Us

      I noticed a girl in Seattle cleaning her car off with one of those scoops used in the bulk foods bins at the store. It took her several hours to complete the job, and then it snowed another foot that night. She was furious the next morning.

      So I walked over, ran my coat-covered arm over most of the car and cleaned it off in a couple of minutes, and then got her number.

      What? I was an idiot at the time.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 4:57 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #7.8   Mags

      “In the subzero weather that immediately followed the snow, it wasn’t safe to be out for more than fifteen minutes at a time.”
      Are you kidding? Do you guys go outside without coats? How much sub zero was it? Because to put it in perspective, the policy in our school division, which was just published in the elementary school’s newsletter to remind parents to send kids with proper winter clothes, is that the school will have inside recess if the temperature or windchill hits -28 C (=-18 F), and the division will cancel school buses if the temperature hits -40 C (= -40 F). So again, just how cold does it have to be to be “not safe” to be out for more than 15 minutes at a time? Good grief, I hate being cold, but I wouldn’t even bother putting on my ski pants and touque if I was only going to be outside for 15 minutes at 0 F.

      Jan 11, 2014 at 6:24 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #7.9   L

      The weather channel here warned for windchill warnings that caused frostbite in under 5 minutes. It hit -50*C with the windchill.

      Also, the guys who plow our street plow out my driveway. Small town, bitches.

      Jan 11, 2014 at 8:46 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #7.10   Mags

      I see. Thanks, L. Windchill cold is always worse than the equivalent in plain cold.

      Jan 11, 2014 at 10:50 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #7.11   TeryG

      -50c?! Where in boston? Inside a dry ice factory? The city proper never got below 0. And it was the fluffiet snow on record. 30:1 ratio.

      Jan 13, 2014 at 12:18 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #8   John Reese

    Yup, especially in Southie (for you non-Bostonians, that’s South Boston) they’ll f-you up.

    Jan 8, 2014 at 6:25 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

  • #9   Quite Contrary

    What would he have been entitled to if he had put in only 30 minutes of backbreaking work?

    Jan 8, 2014 at 6:33 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

  • #10   Poltergeist

    “I am entitled to that which does not belong to me.”

    Jan 8, 2014 at 8:21 pm   rating: 16  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   The Beast Among Us

      Sounds like most of our citizens these days,

      Jan 9, 2014 at 4:58 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #11   Lita bang

    Oh boy. Here we go again.

    For the record, I’m not honestly sure where I stand on this matter. Yes, I understand the sheer !*!&@*(&#@&#@ of shoveling out a space and then having someone else take it, but at the same time…dude. Calm your tits, lest you have a heart attack shoveling out another space.

    Jan 8, 2014 at 8:45 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   NonnyMus

      In urban neighborhoods, there usually aren’t any other spaces – especially not by the time you get home from work. Hence Mayor Menino’s grace period.

      Jan 13, 2014 at 4:59 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #12   Redheadwglasses

    Plus sometimes you need a break just to rest your muscles, if that snow got packed in nice and hard (that’s what she said), like the shit at the end of your driveway after the street plow has gone by.

    Dumb question: does Boston not require cars to be moved elsewhere so plows can plow curb to curb? Or is parking in Boston so … Difficult? … That moving cars to other streets as designated by the city just not an option?

    Have I been spoiled by having lived only in (1) Iowa “cities” and (2) St. Paul, MN my entire adult life.

    Jan 8, 2014 at 10:21 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #12.1   FeRD bang

      Parking in Boston is so scarce, such a policy is physically impossible to implement — there is literally nowhere to move the cars TO. You used the word “driveway”, which is a thing most Bostonites have only vague, whisky-dulled memories of from the last time they visited their grandparents who retired to the South Shore. Boston does do some alternate-side street cleaning, I think once a week, but IIRC even those rules are suspended from November to April.

      So, no, they don’t plow curb-to-curb. They plow the travel lanes… mostly ONTO the curbsides.

      Jan 8, 2014 at 11:32 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

    • #12.2   kermit

      I don’t know if Boston requires it. Montreal definitely does and they get a lot more snow than Boston and the parking is shitty.

      The snow plow dudes take no prisoners as they ram through; I think last year they ended up killing 2 or 3 people.

      Jan 8, 2014 at 11:37 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #12.3   H for Toy

      Last storm we had was during sub-zero temps. I only shoveled out my parking space, but actually paid a kid to shovel my sidewalk, so I wouldn’t have to be outside too long. My neighbor comes home and asks me, in all seriousness, why I didn’t shovel out his space too. He said since we were in charge of the grounds, we should. I about knocked him out and left him in the -20 weather. We are not in charge of the grounds, we just volunteered to mow the lawn, since we’re the only ones who own a mower. Even if we were in charge, that doesn’t include shoveling out the road so you can park. Here’s the shovel, buddy.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 6:30 am   rating: 22  small thumbs up

    • #12.4   Stiney

      Boston has designated “snow emergency routes” for police, fire, and ambulances. When a snow emergency is called, if your car is still parked on the snow emergency route, it gets towed. There are lots set up for people to move their cars to during a snow emergency (you have 2 hours after the emergency is ended to remove it from that lot). Otherwise, you get plowed in if you park on the street, and this usually gets icy even when the snow is light and fluffy (like the last storm), because of the salting and tires creating slush. Plus, you can’t put what you shoveled in the street, and you can’t put it on the sidewalks, so sometimes you are carrying each shovel-load to a place where you can dump the snow.

      Street-cleaning is twice a week on streets that have regularly designated street-cleaning, but that runs April-November and is otherwise suspended.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 10:28 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #12.5   The Beast Among Us

      I used to play for hours in -20° weather. I also shoveled a lot of snow in that kind of weather. The secret is thermals, proper layering, air-tight covering, and proper waterproofing.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 5:10 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #12.6   helen-louise

      Things that are “fun”: trying to get on a bus in a wheelchair when the roads have been ploughed by throwing all the snow onto the sides of the road. The bus can’t actually get its ramp down.

      Just as well I can walk a bit & had three strong, able-bodied friends with me!

      Jan 11, 2014 at 10:36 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #13   Redheadwglasses

    Also, not to interrupt what is sure to be a much-needed diversion for me, but for those who follow my illness on CaringBridge, I have a heck of a great post to share tonight!

    Jan 8, 2014 at 10:24 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #13.1   H for Toy

      I’m so glad you have such great friends! Sounds like a fun time planned :)

      Jan 8, 2014 at 10:38 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #13.2   Redheads glasses

      And now we have a fifth joining us from California! It WILL be fun!

      Jan 9, 2014 at 2:14 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #13.3   TGIF

      How do I find you? I hope you’re doing well!

      Jan 9, 2014 at 5:26 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #13.4   redheadwglasses

      You can find me here!

      Jan 9, 2014 at 9:07 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #13.5   Redheads glasses

      They removed my post with a direct link,

      Go to and search for me by name?: angelanims ( or Angela Nims)

      Jan 10, 2014 at 1:48 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #14   Jami

    Even though I live in SoCal in a place where there’s no snow, I’m on the note writer’s side. If he did all the work he should have the spot by default unless it’s an emergency. Don’t like it? Either buy a plow or pay him since he basically did a bunch of back breaking labor. I mean, the very least you can do is give the dude some money to buy himself a big can of coffee.

    Jan 9, 2014 at 12:21 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   Snicklefritz

      Or give him an empty coffee can so he can troll people for their loose change to pay someone to shovel out his car.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 10:12 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #15   VM

    My Jersey-born husband once lived on a small road that never got plowed, so driving to work sometimes meant shoveling 100 feet of pavement, in order to access one of the two larger, plowed streets that bracketed the road.

    One snowbound morning, he discovered that in the brief time between him shoveling and getting his car out of the garage, someone had parked in the pathway he just cleared. Apparently someone tootling down the cross street saw it as the perfect little turn-in for their car, and left it to act like a cork in a winebottle.

    He didn’t leave a note. He didn’t even shovel a way around the vehicle. He left it where it was and shoveled another 100 feet in the opposite direction to get to the other street.

    The ten gallons of water he poured over that car froze too quickly to allow him to do anything else…

    Jan 9, 2014 at 1:12 am   rating: 50  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   poopypants

      Your husband is far nicer than I am.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 1:22 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #15.2   L

      At that point, I’d just buy a plow attachment for my vehicle… that’s what my aunt is thinking of doing when she moves out to her farm.

      Well, along with the tractor…

      Jan 11, 2014 at 8:49 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #15.3   VM

      Well, my husband’s next move – literally – was to an apartment with its own underground garage.

      He was telling a coworker about how he was looking forward to finally living in an apartment. Coworker looked at him as if he were a Martian. Coworker had lived in apartments all his life, he was heartily sick of them, and HE was really looking forward to moving into his first house! Why on earth…

      “Wait until winter” was my husband’s cryptic explanation.

      Winter came. Snow came. Coworker staggers into work two hours late, grabs my husband and throws him against the wall.

      “Not one word. NOT. ONE. WORD! For two hours of shoveling all I could see was your damn smirking face…”

      Jan 11, 2014 at 11:06 am   rating: 18  small thumbs up

  • #16   Redheads glasses

    That sort of pisspoor plowing has to,lead to,treacherous driving for emergency vehicles, yes? Don’t the streets just get more narrow as winter pushes on?

    Jan 9, 2014 at 2:13 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #16.1   Esmeralda

      Yes, it makes it very treacherous for all vehicles. And the streets do get very narrow as winter progresses. I live in Maine, which gets a bit of snow as well, and I can honestly say, winter is hell.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 6:21 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #16.2   Pixy

      Plus, Boston streets have evolved from what used to be cow paths. There are many streets in Boston and the suburbs that are narrow at best even in the summer. With snow, they can be downright treacherous.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 9:44 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #17   The Elf

    You lost your “w”, Red, so now I keep thinking your glasses have started making their own comments. Google glass?

    Jan 9, 2014 at 9:55 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   H for Toy

      I think she might have taken a little nap, so her glasses took over the commenting.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 11:43 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #17.2   The Elf

      Well as long as they don’t make 66 usd/hour by working on the internet whenever Red is napping, I’m okay with it.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 12:45 pm   rating: 15  small thumbs up

  • #18   warns

    Team note writer 100000% percent. If you shovel it, it’s yours. No questions asked. It might not be Massachusetts law, but it is the rules. If your neighbor parks there, most (light) retaliation will be totally overlooked by BPD, cause they get it too.

    Jan 9, 2014 at 12:17 pm   rating: 17  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   Poltergeist

      What if it wasn’t even your neighbor, but rather somebody you don’t know at all who was visiting somebody/had some type business to take care of on that street? They can’t park in a public spot just because you shoveled it out?

      Sorry, I know shoveling snow sucks (believe me, I’m no stranger to it), but get the fuck over it. You don’t own the space just because you shoveled it. You know, like how shoveling off a sidewalk doesn’t mean you get to dictate who can walk on it.

      Jan 9, 2014 at 10:08 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #18.2   Raichu

      I’m with Warns. No, you don’t own the spot but it’s a huge dick move to take a spot that someone else just spent a bunch of time and effort clearing out. You are essentially stealing their labor.

      Jan 11, 2014 at 9:37 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #18.3   Poltergeist

      So your solution, Raichu, is for NOBODY to park in that spot ALL DAY except for that one particular person who shoveled it out and then went off to work? Don’t you see how irrational that is?

      Again, my sidewalk example fits just fine (despite what warns said about it). Just because you shovel the sidewalk off in front of your place of residence does not mean you get to yell “Get off my sidewalk!” to any other person who wants to use the sidewalk afterwards.

      Jan 12, 2014 at 6:00 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #18.4   Raichu

      Well…yes, basically. Nothing wrong with stopping there for a few minutes, but what do you expect will happen when the shoveler comes back and finds their spot taken? You think it’s fair that they’ll have to put in another hour shoveling their spot while spot-stealer didn’t have to put in any effort at all?

      Jan 12, 2014 at 6:10 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #18.5   Raichu

      Additionally, the sidewalk analogy is basically not comparable at all, because walking on the sidewalk =/= taking up the entire sidewalk so nobody else can use it. That would be an appropriate response if somebody claimed that nobody was allowed to drive on the streets after the plowers cleared them.

      Jan 12, 2014 at 6:11 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #18.6   Poltergeist

      But I did all the work cleaning the sidewalk off! Me, not you, me! And because of that, I temporarily own the sidewalk, and therefore I can tell you to get off the sidewalk because it is my property. I don’t want kids playing on my lawn, and I don’t want you walking on my sidewalk!

      Jan 12, 2014 at 6:17 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #18.7   warns

      Wrong, shoveling the sidewalk is mandatory and is the responsibility of the homeowner. Unlike a parking space, it HAS to be cleared, for public safety. Is. Not. the. same.

      Jan 13, 2014 at 12:07 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #18.8   Poltergeist

      Whether or not it is mandatory is irrelevant. The point is that while you may have put the effort into cleaning it, that doesn’t change the fact that you still don’t own it.

      Jan 14, 2014 at 12:16 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #18.9   Raichu

      Poltergeist, you seem to be missing the point. People don’t get mad specifically because their cleared parking space was *used* by someone. They get mad because as it continues to be used, it becomes impossible for the shoveler to use it themselves.

      Sidewalks do not function like that. At all.

      Jan 14, 2014 at 9:27 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #19   warns

    Poltergeist, its something you fail to understand, if you haven’t been subjected to the fun of shoveling out a car every morning for weeks on end. Its an understood courtesy to anyone who lives there. Cutting in a line isn’t illegal either, does it mean its alright to do? By the way your sidewalk analogy doesn’t work here, its the law in the city of Boston, and homeowners are fined if they don’t.

    The bottom line is, no one who lives there takes a freshly cleared spot, ever. It isn’t done. want a place to park?? Grab a shovel.

    Jan 9, 2014 at 10:52 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #19.1   Poltergeist

      No, I understand just fine. You feel that you can decide who parks in a parking space that you do not own. If I lived in your city and had business to take care of on a certain street (most likely after having spent the morning shoveling out my own damn car) I can and would park my car in an unoccupied, legal public parking space. And then when I get home to find the space I shoveled out of taken by somebody else’s car, I’d suck it up and deal with the annoying situation like a fully grown man should, i.e. not by leave bitchy PA note.

      Want a guaranteed place to park your car every day? Figure out a way to own your own parking space.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 3:31 am   rating: 18  small thumbs up

    • #19.2   warns

      That’s alright, I guess you’re someone who figures you should take advantage of someone else’s hard work.

      Rules and respect aren’t always the same thing. Legal and courteous aren’t either.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 12:00 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #19.3   GC

      Hopefully the person whose work you’ve taken advantage of will be sure to pack your car in with the snow that he’ll have to shovel out of a new spot. Most people who live in snowy areas bring a shovel in their trunk in case it starts snowing while they’re away from home and they need to dig to get going. Bring your own shovel. Do your own digging.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 2:38 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #19.4   Poltergeist

      I do my own digging. The fact that I dig my own car out does not change the fact that I might need to drive somewhere and park my car in order to take care of whatever business I need to take care of.

      You’re the ones who are not being courteous by thinking that because you shoveled your car out of a public parking space, then that means that the public parking space must sit unoccupied for the entire day just so that you’re guaranteed to have a parking space when you come home from work that day. How selfishly irrational of you.

      You must have a lot of entitled crybabies in Boston.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 5:41 pm   rating: 18  small thumbs up

    • #19.5   ok

      So dig yourself a space at your destination.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 8:51 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #19.6   Poltergeist

      And where should I leave my car while I’m digging out this space? In the middle of the street?

      Jan 10, 2014 at 10:06 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #19.7   Raichu

      You can always park it in a parked spot and then dig another spot. Point is, don’t take a spot if you haven’t paid into the pot.

      “what if I have to park???” Then dig! That’s what the person whose space you just stole did! You aren’t entitled to someone else’s labor!

      Jan 11, 2014 at 9:39 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #19.8   Snowflame

      Wait… what if someone leaves a passive aggressive note on your car while you’re parked in the spot you parked in in order to dig out a parking spot to park in? Wouldn’t it be better if you first dug out a parking spot to park in while you dug out your parking spot to park in? You could walk wherever you’re going first to dig out the parking space. In your parka. Through the park.

      Jan 12, 2014 at 4:13 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #19.9   Poltergeist

      So I’m going to find a public parking space, park my car there, then walk over to a different unshoveled space, shove it out, then move my already parked car into this new space? Why in the world would I do that? And like Snowflame said, what if somebody else gets their panties in a bunch because I had to use “their” spot while I was in the process of digging one out for myself?

      This conversation is ridiculous.

      Jan 12, 2014 at 6:08 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #19.10   Raichu

      Poltergeist, you read an extra step into my suggestion. Though it might be a good idea to move your car into the new spot because the original digger might not realize the other spot is for them.

      Snowflame, the idea is if they were standing by your car long enough to write a note while you were actively shoveling, you would see them and could explain the situation.

      Jan 12, 2014 at 6:12 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #19.11   Raichu

      As for why you would do it, Poltergeist: because it’s the courteous thing to do. Your comment basically just sounds like “but why would I go to any trouble if someone else already did it for me (regardless of whether I’ll be screwing that someone else over)”?

      Jan 12, 2014 at 6:13 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #19.12   Poltergeist

      The courteous thing to do is realize that you can’t lay claim to something that isn’t yours to begin with.

      And how am I “taking advantage” of somebody else’s work? Are you implying that just because I park in an empty space, that somehow means that I also haven’t broken my back doing lots of shoveling myself?

      Jan 12, 2014 at 6:23 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #19.13   Raichu

      “Are you implying that just because I park in an empty space, that somehow means that I also haven’t broken my back doing lots of shoveling myself?”

      Basically, yes. The person who did do lots of shoveling has lost out on their hard work.

      Jan 14, 2014 at 9:29 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #19.14   Poltergeist

      This argument has grown tiresome. I’ll end it on this note – either you figure out a way to own your own parking space or you quit crying when somebody else “steals” the public parking space. If you think I’m a jerk, fine. Welcome to the real world where you don’t always get your way. And feel free to leave a bitchy note on my car. I’ll get a kick out of it.

      Jan 14, 2014 at 6:22 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #19.15   warns

      Actually most folks put something IN the parking spot to hold it.

      In the real world “respecting your neighbors” will get you a whole lot further than saying “you can’t always get your own way” and parking in a spot another person created.

      Jan 16, 2014 at 12:43 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #19.16   Raichu

      Poltergeist, that sounds an awful lot like “well life’s not fair!!!” I always found that to be kind of a cop-out for people who can’t be arsed to try to do the decent thing. No, life isn’t fair – and we should make it more fair instead of being apathetic about it (or taking advantage of it to use it as an excuse to be inconsiderate).

      Warns has the right of it, imo.

      Jan 18, 2014 at 6:23 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #20   Redheads glasses

    So the solution is, avoid owning a car and rely on public transportation.

    Jan 10, 2014 at 7:10 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   The Elf

      Or own an SUV with a lot of ground clearance, drop it into 4wd and drive out over the snowbank, laughing maniacally at the poor schmos cleaning off their cars and packing that snow down making it harder for anyone else to clear. Bonus if you manage to leave roof covered in snow so the minute you get a bit of speed it comes off in a big ice meteor and hits the car behind you.

      You know, whichever.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 7:29 am   rating: 11  small thumbs up

    • #20.2   My name is Princess!

      You would think! But … Its not fun waiting for public transportation during a snow storm. ;-/

      Jan 10, 2014 at 9:55 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #20.3   Jami

      Or buy a tank or hovercraft.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 1:05 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #20.4   it's naptime

      Or get Dresden to whip you up a zombie t-rex.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 1:29 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #20.5   The Elf

      Can’t take the hovercraft. It’s full of eels.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 3:19 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #20.6   TARD

      My nipples explode with delight.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 5:07 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #20.7   Jami

      From The Dresden Files to Monty Python. I love you guys.

      I heard some guy got arrested for trying to clear snow with a flamethrower. But I don’t know what state it happened in.

      Jan 10, 2014 at 6:37 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #20.8   The Elf

      Did they use Spaceballs: The Flamethrower? I hear kids love that one.

      Jan 11, 2014 at 1:28 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #20.9   it's naptime

      I’m thinking they used the industrial strength hair dryer and the cops couldn’t tell the difference.

      Jan 11, 2014 at 6:33 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

  • #21   JoDa

    I’m team notewriter assuming the person in the spot is staying there. We have off-street parking, but it’s all the way around the building from our doors. I also don’t own a car, and all my neighbors know this. So, after our last burying snowfall a few years ago, I came home and parked out front in a cleared spot to unload my groceries. I was in a car clearly marked as a rental, and I popped the trunk and was hastily hauling bags inside. Several of my neighbors decided to get all bitchface with me about not being the one who cleared the spot (keep in mind this spot was also in front of my building and the neighbors confronting me did not live in my building). It didn’t end well (it ended with me calling the cops when one of them said they were going inside to get a screwdriver to slash the tires), despite me saying “I’m only going to be here for 5 minutes, and I’ll move if they happen to come back during that time…besides, it must have been one of the people in *my* building that cleared this spot, and they are welcome to park in my clean spot out back if they need to park immediately. Can’t you see this is a rental? I’m returning it to its own reserved parking spot 5 blocks from here as soon as I unload it!”

    Wouldn’t you know when I got the car back to its “home,” someone had parked in the RESERVED spot and I had to wait there for them to be towed because there were no open parking spots nearby… (The car I rented lives in a shopping center that was busy with shoppers stocking up after the storm, but the spots for the rentals have large signs designating them as reserved)

    Jan 10, 2014 at 8:35 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #21.1   Tard

      “Bitchface”! A new one for me!

      Jan 11, 2014 at 7:28 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

    • #21.2   H for Toy

      Every time I heard “bitchface” I think of RBS (Resting Bitchface Syndrome), and I laugh.

      Jan 11, 2014 at 10:52 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

  • #22   Poltergeist

    I’m also willing to steal your newspaper if you just leave it lying out on your doorstep. You’d better lock your door or I’ll come in and help myself to your food as well.

    Jan 11, 2014 at 12:35 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #22.1   Poltergeist

      Aw how cute, you stole my name and wrote something stupid. You really need to be more creative than that if you want to live up to your potential as a truly insufferable troll.

      Jan 11, 2014 at 12:44 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

    • #22.2   The Elf

      Somebody get an exorcist!

      Jan 11, 2014 at 1:25 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #22.3   Haterade

      I think we might need Pope Francis for this one… a poltergeist possessing a poltergeist sounds scarier than your average paranormal phenomenon.

      Jan 11, 2014 at 2:13 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #22.4   Poltergeist

      Your mother sucks cocks in hell, Elf, you faithless slime. Bloody damn butchering Nazi pig!

      Jan 11, 2014 at 2:45 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #22.5   Poltergeist

      I was just kidding. I <3 you guys.

      Jan 11, 2014 at 2:48 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #22.6   Tard

      Wait a second, I think my mother just might suck cocks in hell…. Don’t take that away from me!

      Jan 11, 2014 at 10:45 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #22.7   Jami

      I don’t think it’s possible for a poltergeist to possess another poltergeist. The going theory for years now is that poltergeists are actually caused by psychic turmoil from children entering puberty. Especially girls. So they’re not really ghosts or demons persay just random telekinesis and the like. Sort of like if you crossed the cartoon character Katie Kaboom with Stephen King’s Carrie and added a splash of Jean Grey.

      Did you know that people once thought poltergeist activity was proof there was a vampire living in your village?

      Anyway, my point is – fake Poltergeist needs to go hang out with his stinky friend in Manchester and leave our lovely real Poltergeist alone.

      And I need more sleep so I make sense.

      Jan 12, 2014 at 3:11 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #22.8   Poltergeist

      Jami is too school for cool, and I love it!

      Jan 12, 2014 at 6:13 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #22.9   Jami

      I went through a total vampire obsession when I was younger. Partly fueled by my 5th grade teacher who read Prisoner Of Vampires by Nancy Garden. As a result I also learned a lot about other supernatural beings like werewolves, poltergeists, etc.

      I know multiple ways to become, repel, or kill a vampire. I even know one myth I’d really like to see make it’s way into a vampire movie. There’s a myth that if a vampire drives a gold spike through your shadow they have complete and total control over you. More control than just hypnosis. Can you just imagine a scene where the hero or heroine walks into a room where the walls, floor, even the ceiling is covered in gold spikes. Then they look closer and find the shadows. Some are hanging limply, obviously their owners long dead but the shadows still imprisoned. Some writhing and silently screaming in pain.

      I know, completely off topic, except for the fact that poltergeists are suppose to be a sign of vampires being about.

      Did you know that despite what Hollywood says werewolves are not immortal? They can die of accident, disease, or old age. The problem is they can come back as vampires. Now according to mythology dating back hundreds of years vampires can be killed by silver. (Yes, Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter was right about that – in fact, wooden stakes do NOT kill vampires, they just pin them into their coffin so they can’t get up and feed.) So my theory is that if you kill a werewolf with silver that prevents them from coming back as a vampire. But you can also kill a werewolf with a woodchipper. Just – they’ll come back as a vampire.

      I’m weird. I know it. That’s why you all tolerate me.

      Jan 13, 2014 at 12:15 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #22.10   The Elf

      Only on this site would a false-name poster lead to a treastise on vampire slaying. That’s why I love this site.

      Jan 13, 2014 at 11:00 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #22.11   Poltergeist

      I have learned so many new things today. Thanks Jami!

      Jan 13, 2014 at 12:04 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #22.12   Jami

      You’re welcome.

      Also remember that vampires have a type of OCD. If you’re being chased throw some grain or seeds at their feet and they have to stop and count them all. (Yes, both Sesame Street and The X-Files had that right.) Or a piece of knotted rope or string. They have to untie the knots. (Something else X-Files got right.)

      You can also repel a vampire with cow poop found in a thorn bush. Also good for repelling door to door solicitors. ;-)

      Jan 13, 2014 at 12:38 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #22.13   JoDa

      OMG A WHOLE *BLOCK* AWAY? HOW DID YOU SURVIVE? Seriously, the “old” neighborhood I’ve spoken of many times here was so crowded that anything within a block was a SCORE. The furthest I ever had to park from home was *6* blocks. That’s how it rolls when you don’t OWN a spot. If you want to guarantee something closer, build, pave, or pay for it.

      Jan 14, 2014 at 11:31 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #22.14   JoDa

      How the how? I meant that for 22.5…

      Jan 14, 2014 at 11:33 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

  • #23   Redheadwglasses

    I get poltergeist’s point. A completely new to town, naive person could park in someone’s cleared parking spot and have no idea they have done anything wrong.

    Jan 11, 2014 at 3:22 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #23.1   H for Toy

      Maybe it’s because I’ve lived in a snowy state all my life, but I thought everyone knew this rule. Kind of like “if it’s too good to be true, it probably is.”

      Jan 11, 2014 at 4:49 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #23.2   Redheadwglasses

      I have lived in snowy winter states my whole life, too, and never was raised with or told about any obligation to not park in someone else’s carved out parking spot.

      The only “rule” I was told was more of a courtesy: park so your car doesn’t block the sidewalk-to-curb cutout, so others don’t have to climb through mountains of snow to get to the street.

      Jan 11, 2014 at 7:55 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

    • #23.3   Poltergeist

      It doesn’t even have anything to do with naivety in my opinion. This falls under the same category as the PA notes saying “Don’t park in front of my house in the perfectly legal spot. It’s in front of my house, therefore it’s mine!”

      You. Don’t. Own. It.

      Jan 12, 2014 at 6:28 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #23.4   JoDa

      HAHA Poltergeist, I’ve seen a few PANs on cars in my neighborhood about parking in front of someone else’s house. Especially on this one one-way street where: (a) there are houses only on one side, so the opposite side of the street is almost always completely vacant; (b) all but one house (I think) has at least 2 off-street parking spots; and (c) is exclusively single-family homes, so there aren’t any issues with multi-unit buildings with too many cars and not enough spaces. I note it as one-way because then YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE TO CIRCLE THE BLOCK TO PARK ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU JUST PULL OVER. Then again, I’ve also had a guy on that street yell at me for walking my dog past his house, so the entitlement is STRONG over there.

      Apparently, David Gregory (yes, of Meet the Press) also tried to pull the “don’t park in front of my house.” The incident made a couple of local news outlets…

      Jan 12, 2014 at 10:55 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #23.5   buni

      I grew up in Buffalo, NY and I’ve never heard of this “rule”. We have alternate parking where the cars get moved to the opposite side of the street twice a week for snow removal. And sometimes, on holidays, when all of the on street parking is taken up by everyone’s guests, I’ve had to park a block away from my parents’ house.
      The spot across the street for their house is large enough to hold two cars. The only time I ever left a PAN for a stranger is when someone parked in the center of that space, preventing anyone else from parking either in front or behind. It was something creative like “Thank you for taking up two parking spots.”

      Jan 13, 2014 at 2:23 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

    • #23.6   H for Toy

      My parents grew up in Buffalo and Cheektowaga, and it was from them that I learned the rule. Though, they presented it more as a courtesy to your fellow man, than a hard-and-fast rule.

      Jan 13, 2014 at 4:05 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

  • #24   assiveProgressive

    This is why people move to the suburbs

    Jan 14, 2014 at 12:18 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

    • #24.1   The Elf

      Yes, among other reasons. But then you may have a different problem – driving in the bad weather from the suburbs to the city for work.

      Jan 14, 2014 at 7:17 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

  • #25   juniper

    I’ve always lived in California, and never had a single day of snow anywhere I lived. Now I’m afraid to ever visit anywhere where there IS snow, for fear of not finding any parking, or offending someone who feels so passionately about where to park. Too complicated. I’ll just stay home…supposed to be 80 degrees here tomorrow.

    Jan 14, 2014 at 7:52 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up


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