Holly in Glendale, Arizona says her one-year-old daughter just learned how to walk, and (as toddlers do) enjoys toddling around the apartment. Holly and her husband have tried explaining this to the downstairs neighbors, to no avail. “They bang on the ceiling, which scares the living sh*t out of my little girl,” Holly says, and have called the cops — “whose response was to apologize for disturbing us.”
Now, Holly says, “As soon as my one-year-old walks into the kitchen, the woman who lives below us will immediately run up our stairs and throw herself against our door, screaming and threatening us.”
I feel you, Holly, but maybe those “my first stilettos” are a bit much?
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#1
EmptyJay
Wow. I would record one of these incidents and take that to the police. They seem to be very eager to involve the cops, so why not help them along?
If they’re threatening and disturbing you, there’s got to be something that can be done to bring that nonsense to an end.
May 21, 2014 at 1:40 pm rating: 90
#2
Cady
Good lord, these people must be the auditory version of The Princess and the Pea! Obviously toddlers aren’t great at modulating their footfalls, but the kid probably only weighs about 25 pounds, and surely she’s not running around “all night.” But since the neighbors are clearly psychotic, I recommend Holly go by her local discount store and buy some rugs and rug pads.
May 21, 2014 at 1:42 pm rating: 90
#3
FeRD
Have a Holly, jolly NeighborWar!
Unfortunately, these things are only ever resolved by one party or the other moving. If the floors/ceilings are that thin, then unless wall-to-wall carpeting is an option for Holly (even into the kitchen), nothing is going to change the downstairsers’ minds about what constitutes an acceptable level of Noise From Above™, and obviously nothing is going to make a toddler toddle more daintily. No fun at all.
(I’m assuming that these complaints are coming regardless of the hour, and that Holly isn’t letting her toddler wander around on bare floors at 4am or anything. Because, that would be kind of rude. Kids are stompy.)
May 21, 2014 at 1:43 pm rating: 90
#4
Jami
Maybe you should consider encouraging your daughter to wear slippers to soften her footsteps. You have no idea what it sounds like in their apartment. It might sound like you’re all having a clog dancing party to them.
Also really thick carpet might help.
May 21, 2014 at 1:45 pm rating: 90
#5
Rachel
If the kid is so bloody annoying to them I am puzzled why the adults aren’t annoying also. They may not run inside, but they have many times more mass than some child who can’t more than 25 pounds or so.
May 21, 2014 at 1:53 pm rating: 90
#6
Stell
She gets bonus obnoxious points for misusing whom.
May 21, 2014 at 1:55 pm rating: 91
#7
Jessica
Sorry Holly, but I’m on team neighbor. I have an upstairs neighbor who is generally pretty quiet. I can hear here walking if I’m paying attention but I never am so I never do. One weekend she had a guest brought along her kid daughter. It sounded like a heard of buffalo thundering back and forth all weekend. It was just a few days so no big deal but if I had to live like that all the time, I’d be up there yelling too.
May 21, 2014 at 1:57 pm rating: 90
#8
Ben
This note is not t all passive-aggressive. It’s just plain aggressive.
As the parent of a child who was once a one-year-old, and as someone who was once a downstairs neighbor #7 is off her rocker. It’s a one-year-old. They don’t listen. Reasonable downstairs neighbors know it’s a child of the age of approximately 12 months. This is not a being you can reason with, and neither are the parents. You could try to argue that the parents should carry the child around all day but I can tell you that would also result in just a ton of screaming and crying – both on the part of the child and on the part of the parent.
May 21, 2014 at 2:03 pm rating: 90
#9
Rachel
Get some thick carpet and rugs. You might not be able to silence your kid but you will be able to significantly lessen the sound of their footfall.
I have lived with this and you clearly have NO IDEA what it’s like. Have some respect for your neighbours.
May 21, 2014 at 2:09 pm rating: 90
#10
buni
If the floors are that thin, with no insulation between, it doesn’t matter if the kid weighs “only” 25 lbs. My 4 lb rabbit sounds like a herd of wildebeests when I’m down in my basement & he’s running around my uncarpeted living room.
May 21, 2014 at 2:20 pm rating: 90
#11
Maitri Bath & Body
Yes, by all means, I shall henceforth and forthwith prevent my growing child from walking at all, and shall carry her until she is 13 years old. Thank you, noble neighbors, for showing me the error of my ways in encouraging her to be an actual person and not a burden on society! I stand corrected!
May 21, 2014 at 2:30 pm rating: 90
#12
The Beast Among Us
I had upstairs neighbors that used to dance, stomp, fight, run, have sex, etc. They were extremely noisy. But I never banged on the ceiling, wrote notes, called the cops, or threw myself against the door. Why? Because unless I was asleep, I didn’t care. I learned to tune it out.
Except the sex. I enjoyed listening to that sound.
May 21, 2014 at 2:30 pm rating: 90
#13
Dave
Buy a large rug. Make a TON of noise one night until the neighbor comes upstairs frothing at the mouth. Roll the neighbor’s body up in the rug.
May 21, 2014 at 2:52 pm rating: 90
#14
warns
I would probably document the banging on the ceiling/door/walls this lady is responsible for, and let her call the cops. I’d love to see the look on the police officer’s face when this lady tries to justify calling the authorities on a toddler. LOVE.
May 21, 2014 at 4:10 pm rating: 90
#15
Lita
Carpet. Definitely.
Although I’d rather live under a one-year-old just learning to walk instead of the two hellion children I USED to live under. One was three or four, one was six, and I honestly don’t know when they ever slept because 24/7 they were banging and stomping and screaming around. I know I sure as hell never slept when they were pulling that stunt.
(I rather suspect they did it on purpose – the younger one was shrieking in the hall one day, Mom and I were going out to do something later and caught the father on the stairs with kid in tow. He asked if she’d been bothering us earlier, Mom said that yes she had, and apparently that was the Wrong Answer. I actually caught the dickmunch encouraging his kids to slam the building’s front door – they broke it at least four times – to bang on the stair railing until it loosened and almost fell on people’s heads, to stand outside our apartment door and scream, and he himself – being such a paragon of Politeness and Caring – took to smoking in front of our door. In a no-smoking building. Our apartment absolutely stank of smoke by the time we moved out.)
Now I live in an “apartment” above the parents’ house and have four cats. And I’m still not noisy enough to bother anyone.
May 21, 2014 at 5:53 pm rating: 90
#16
phil
everybody seems to think rugs and pads are a great idea. maybe the downstairs neighbor should buy some and staple them to the ceiling. that’s about as reasonable as asking a 12 month old or their parents to be quiet all the time. Better yet maybe just move into a house where they wouldn’t have to deal with all those inconsiderate people.
May 21, 2014 at 7:26 pm rating: 90
#17
RedDelicious
As someone who had to live below a family whose kid was “special needs” and wouldn’t sit down, ever, but constantly ran from one side of the apartment to the other… There’s a point you hit where you honestly cannot take it anymore. I’m not a heartless bitch, and I get they were dealing with a challenging situation, but when it’s four in the morning and you have a college final at 8, there’s only so much shit you can take.
People just honestly are selfish, and don’t take the lives of their neighbors into consideration. The truth is, the family above me never should have been given an upstairs apartment. Management admitted that. Still, I had to move to get away from it.
If people thought of the bigger picture instead of just themselves and their needs first, situations like that would be less of a thing. Common consideration and courtesy would solve a lot of problems. If you have kids that run around like cattle, don’t fucking move into an upstairs apartment.
Team note writer.
May 21, 2014 at 7:26 pm rating: 90
#18
V
This is weird, but I have to say it: I just love that handwriting.
May 21, 2014 at 7:44 pm rating: 90
#19
BSR
Back in the day, when my wife was trying to study for her degree on weekends (the only time she had) our upstairs neighbors got their first grandchild, who became their every-weekend visitor.
We heard occasional crying and then muffled thumps as she began crawling….no big deal. But when she got up and started walking, then RUNNING it was hell!
This was an old turn of the century brick building with hardwood floors. When she discovered she could run it really got crazy, as her favorite activity seemed to be to run from one end of the apartment to the other. I don’t know what kind of shoes she had, but I was convinced at the time they were cement. They were probably the standard hard-leather-sole baby shoes, but that kid never went barefoot!
No amount of pleading with the neighbors helped — we kept getting the “She only weighs 20 lbs, what’s your problem?” line. Try dropping a 20lb bowling ball on the floor overhead — it’s LOUD!
In the end, we gave up and it forced us into our first house — before we were ready. I can certainly sympathize with the downstairs neighbors.
Don’t get me started on the upstairs cat, who would frequently forget what floor she was on and wait outside our door. When I would open it she would run inside and then freeze, because everything was wrong. Trying to pick her up got hissing and scratching.
Glad we left…
May 21, 2014 at 9:10 pm rating: 90
#20
Lita
And now that I look at this again:
WHY DID THEY NOT REMOVE THE BOUND EDGE AT THE PERFORATION. THERE IS A PERFORATION THERE. WHY IS THE EDGE NOT CLEAN.
*huff* *pant* *gasp*
May 21, 2014 at 11:16 pm rating: 90
#21
assiveProgressive
Yes. And what is this request: “please be curtains”
May 22, 2014 at 12:32 am rating: 90
#22
Kristi
I have horrible upstairs neighbors. I don’t know what the heck is going on up there and because I know how kids are and understand because I have two of my own, I never complain. I’ve got about 2 hours of sleep a night for the last 2 weeks and I still don’t complain. There is literally super loud crashing all freaking night and day. I will get jolted awake to something that sounds like someone is banging around in my kitchen all night. It’s been going on for months and the only times I complained were when water started pouring out of my ceiling in 3 different rooms(they wouldn’t open the door for maintenance even though you could hear them crashing around upstairs) and when my house was shaking so bad that my freaking ceiling fan came out of the wall.. Now I open my door everyday to rotten onions in front of my door.
May 22, 2014 at 12:54 am rating: 90
#23
grmrdan
Earplugs people seriously! If you are going to live in apartment, dorm or with roomates get some friggin earplugs to sleep with! Some people have no idea how loud they are, some don’t care and some can’t help it. But if you KNOW you are moving into a situation where people are living in close proximity, than it is not everyone elses job to stop living just because you want silence to sleep. Trust me, the super soft foam plugs make apartment life and sleeping in a bit, MUCH more pleasant.
May 22, 2014 at 1:23 am rating: 90
#24
Kasaba
Sounds like there’s a lot of kids that could do with a trip to the park to run around and play for a bit, instead of being stuck in an upstairs apartment. I know not everyone can afford to live somewhere with a garden/maybe don’t have time to take the kids out every day, but it does pain me to see kids growing up in high rise apartments in London, when I was lucky enough to grow up in the country and had the freedom to run around outside as much as I wanted to (or even when I didn’t want to, I was encouraged to!). I’d hate to be stuck IN an apartment with kids running around all day, never mind under one.
May 22, 2014 at 2:15 am rating: 90
#25
JoneyJava
Sounds like they’re both being unreasonable. As someone who has a toddler and lives below a toddler you can’t and shouldn’t stop them running about but you can and should help reduce the noise. Because of the way toddlers stomp about they are MUCH MUCH louder than adults.
Put the kid in slippers, put a big foam mat down where the kid plays. If the noise is worst in the kitchen then put up a baby gate and don’t let the kid in the kitchen. Take the kid to a park, playgroup or children’s library during the day to let off steam. This is good for the child anyway. Get your kid on a sociable schedule. The note said “all night” which suggest the OP is letting her kid make a racket while they’re trying to sleep.
Reasonable people will compromise it’s not like the two options are never let your kid run in the house or make absolutely no effort to reduce the noise.
May 22, 2014 at 3:31 am rating: 90
#26
rushgirl2112
Note writer went overboard for sure, but I can’t help but sympathize with the underlying complaint.
Back when I lived in an apartment, a family with a couple of kids moved in upstairs. The kids’ running and stomping around made an ungodly noise. It was literally enough to rattle the dishes in my cabinets when they were in their kitchen. No joke.
We didn’t complain because we’re nonconfrontational people. And I doubt that they knew quite how much noise it made. Curse of the second-floor apartment, I guess . . . not only did we have to deal with the noise coming from upstairs but we also committed ourselves to walking carefully so as not to bother the ones downstairs.
I was so happy when we got out of there.
May 22, 2014 at 7:54 am rating: 90
#27
Mith
I am not sure I am team Holly here. Actually, I am sure I am not. The letter specifically states “all night”, and last I checked toddlers are supposed to sleep at night, not “toddle”.
Secondly, toddlers do not stomp heavier than adults walk. What they can do, however, is jump from a couch, make a chair fall down and drag it around, bang two pans, throw a hard toy hard against a hard floor, pick it up and repeat endlessly, scream for half an hour etc.
So, I am betting on a description of the toddler’s activities having been seriously toned down. And if you tone down that much your side of the story, then I bet you flame up the poor neighbor’s reaction just as much.
May 22, 2014 at 8:54 am rating: 90
#28
Havingfitz
I’ll live under the parents. Seriously. After sharing a wall with someone who played the song “Sweet Dreams” full blast 24 hours a day for months at a time, I feel like I can handle just about anything now. Except that song. And pretty much any reference to the Eurythmics. Just hearing the first notes start up on the radio is enough to make me curl into a fetal position and sob.
May 22, 2014 at 9:23 am rating: 90
#29
janet
I used to live below a deaf stomper … he stomped so loud in his shit-kicker boots that the pictures on my wall would vibrate.
It wasn’t until he flooded my bathroom (turned on tub and forgot so .. taking down my entire bathroom and hall ceilings that I finally got rid of him)
May 22, 2014 at 9:50 am rating: 90
#30
kaetra
If you cannot tolerate noise from upstairs neighbors why do you live in an apartment that has upstairs neighbors? The world does not revolve around you. People are living their lives. If you can’t handle it, it’s your problem.
May 22, 2014 at 9:53 am rating: 90
#31
Stir it up!
I say, buy the kid a set of drums.
May 22, 2014 at 9:59 am rating: 90
#32
macphile
All that really bothers me about this is the use of “whom” instead of “who.”
May 22, 2014 at 10:50 am rating: 90
#33
Little J
As someone who has lived below children several times in her life (including when I was, myself, a tween), I understand both sides of this.
I think a general Rule #1 at stacked living is that if you have children, you should be on the ground floor (for so many, many, many reasons that have nothing to do with feet patter; removing the fall down the stairs risk, larger “back yard” when on the ground level so more play area, etc.).
I think that child toddling is done at the exact right footfall frequency that even with carpet in place, it really does amplify and sound really loud compared to comparable adult footsteps.
At one point, there was a toddler who lived above me (I’m in the middle of my stack and have never before or after heard footfall noise) and hated his nightly bath and would sprint – such as a toddler can do – from the bathroom to the living room, down the hall, while screaming out his rage over the bath suggestion. Parent followed.
Kid I could hear, and loudly enough to wake me from sleep. Parent’s follow footsteps? Nope.
I brought this up to the parents as an amusing anecdote because bath time for a three week phase was the only time I even heard any footfalls at all, and the parent said what I suspected which is that in their apartment the kiddo footfalls were silent but the parent footfalls were loud.
Added to this, I had a boyfriend once who had a brother who liked to listen (via earphones) to death metal and would tap his feet on the carpeted floor along with the super-fast drum beats.
Downstairs neighbor made frequent noise complaints and then contacted the police. Those of us in the apartment heard NOTHING. From the downstair’s neighbor’s place it sounded like a jack hammer.
I really, really suspect that light taps with very close time-proximity to one another amplify much more than any other type of nose.
Thought I am sure she could have worded it better, I am on Team Note Writer. Unless psycho, I highly doubt the Note Writer started off at crazy, but slowly and surely built up to it as the underlying complaint wasn’t addressed.
Mom could have come down to actually experience what Junior’s toddling sounds like – which is what happened with the boyfriend’s brother death metal tapping thing – to get a better idea of how to mitigate. They make these 2+” foam mats that come looking like puzzle pieces that can be put down in the most problematic of places. Individual rooms can be made off limits. A reasonable discussion about what hours are unacceptable can be had and agreed upon.
And lastly, and in this I speak as someone with a lot of toddler raising experience, after dinner but before bed is a great time to go on a walk to get the wiggles out. Bring home a zonked toddler and they’ll go to bed and stay asleep all night long.
May 22, 2014 at 11:19 am rating: 90
#34
Helen Without The H
My dad could hear an ant poop…but ask him for a a quarter for the ice cream man (I’m kinda old) and he suddenly was hard of hearing.
May 22, 2014 at 1:27 pm rating: 90
#35
Rachel
I lived above a woman who constantly complained about my roommate and I making too much noise. Turns out, she was trying to get us kicked out of the complex because she thought I was sleeping with her husband. I wasn’t, but it was a funny situation because the woman had two children during her marriage and neither one belonged to her husband!
May 22, 2014 at 1:53 pm rating: 90
#36
Moe
I might’ve been Team Note Writer. But I’m not, and here’s why: “[T]he woman who lives below us will immediately run up our stairs and throw herself against our door, screaming and threatening us.”
When you have a noisy neighbor, you try to figure out solutions, you try to deal with it as best you can, you leave passive aggressive notes, you complain to the landlord, you seethe in silent resentment, you cry because you’re so, so tired but you cannot sleep, and you look into moving if you can. It’s unfair, and it sucks out loud, but that’s how a reasonable person in command of his or her faculties handles such a situation.
You do not scream. You do not throw yourself against other people’s doors. You certainly do not threaten, which tends to lead to unpleasant things like police being called, criminal complaints being filed, and appearances before a judge where you have to say out loud, and have it recorded for posterity by a stenographer, “I had to threaten my neighbors Your Honor, their toddler was making too much noise.” And then if you’re lucky, you get a fine or probation, and you get evicted. If you’re unlucky, you go to jail for a little while, where I’m sure the noise level is much, much worse.
May 22, 2014 at 1:59 pm rating: 90
#37
Zetal
When I learned to walk, I walked on the outside of my feet instead of the bottoms. To correct this, I spent several weeks in corrective casts. Imagine a toddler in casts living above you. Who MUST be allowed to walk as much as possible in them. And yes, we lived in a second-floor apartment at the time, with no carpet.
Somehow the neighbors managed to not be harassing jerks about it.
May 22, 2014 at 3:39 pm rating: 90
#38
Sarah
Even if the sounds of the kid are loud due to cruddy construction, the kid has a right to be able to walk around. That’s not excessive behavior by any means. If the note writers really need it to be quiet for some reason, they should calmly come over and ask if the kid can not walk around for an hour or so. This is just stupid.
May 22, 2014 at 4:12 pm rating: 90
#39
mutzali
When we lived in a one-story triplex with a cement-slab foundation, and our neighbors had three kids, 3 to 6 years old. On our side of the common wall, we had two bedrooms and a bathroom. They had a long hallway. Their kids had hot wheels and roller skates, which they rode up and down the hallway for hours every night, crashing and screaming. (Things were actually knocked off the walls on our side.) We had been planning to have kids, but we decided to wait until we could afford to buy or rent a free-standing house, because I didn’t want anyone hating my kids as much as I hated those three.
May 22, 2014 at 4:36 pm rating: 90
#40
Belle
When my son was in third grade we had a neighbor who called up management and complained that my son was jumping up & down on the couch (something that wouldn’t be allowed in the first place) and banging on our living room wall. Management calls me and I obviously ask them when this supposedly happened. They said about 10 minutes ago & I told them that the neighbor is either hearing things or making up stuff to try & get me in trouble because me son is at school (probably the latter because she didn’t like kids, not even her own).
May 22, 2014 at 5:51 pm rating: 90
#41
Jaid
I lived over a lady that was eventually kicked out, because she had her daughter living with her without informing management. They were caught because in the evenings, there would moments of something being dropped on their floor. It would be loud enough to make the walls shake upstairs. I can only imagine how it was for the gentleman living beneath them.
May 22, 2014 at 6:17 pm rating: 90
#42
Grammer Police
Grammar police here – it should be who live below you, not the hypercorrected whom live below you. Come on, if you’re going to write passive-corrective notes, at least have the decency to use proper grammar. How’s that for sending the police on you!
May 23, 2014 at 10:08 am rating: 90
#43
Grammar Police
The best part is that the grammar police need to be sent out on the note-writer: whom live below you is just atrocious hypercorrection in an attempt to sound intelligent. It should be who live below you since who is the subject, not the object. Get it right people! How’s that for sending the police out on them – the grammar police! (Although I do empathize with the situation. Kid noise above me would drive me crazy as well!)
May 23, 2014 at 10:14 am rating: 90
#44
NotLikely
“As soon as my one-year-old walks into the kitchen, the woman who lives below us will immediately run up our stairs and throw herself against our door, screaming and threatening us.”
I straight up do not believe this has happened even one time, let alone multiple times.
May 23, 2014 at 12:30 pm rating: 90
#45
Raichu
Team both and neither. Learn to compromise. Don’t scream like a banshee at your upstairs neighbor and understand the noise doesn’t sound the same to them. There will be some noise; don’t expect silence. Likewise, if you have a toddler, put on socks/slippers, don’t let them wear shoes in the house, use carpet, and set reasonable hours.
May 23, 2014 at 12:40 pm rating: 90
#46
Jamoche
I have a friend whose downstairs neighbor would start pounding on the ceiling when he though her *cat* was walking too loud. The cat was 20 years old and 7 pounds max, the floor was carpeted. Whatever he was hearing, it wasn’t the cat.
May 24, 2014 at 1:17 pm rating: 90
#47
Nat
While I can understand where the note-writer is coming from, throwing yourself against someone’s door is never okay. We live in a downstairs apartment, and our neighbors upstairs can be really noisy. They have a vibrating alarm clock that can clearly be heard through the floor that wakes my husband up quite often (I’m up already), and their footsteps are loud. In fact, as I’m typing this they just went stomping across their living room. But our landlord also warned us repeatedly when we were in the process of signing the lease that it was a downstairs apartment and we would hear people walking around etc. upstairs. In fact, people who live on the first floor in our building actually pay less rent for the very reason that people walking upstairs is very audible in our older building. But then again, we also have a good landlord. She asked me a few months after we moved in if they were being too noisy upstairs, and I did mention the alarm clock and she was more than willing to approach them for us. We decided not to, because hubby’s gotten used to it and it doesn’t wake him up anymore, but we have the option if it gets too bad.
May 24, 2014 at 3:26 pm rating: 90
#48
Kasaba
Can someone with complaints from downstairs neighbours about noise from upstairs, please put a copy of Poltergeist in their mail, with a note attached to say you weren’t at home at the time of complaint.
May 25, 2014 at 7:52 am rating: 90
#49
Lita
You know, I’ve been picking out flooring for my bathroom remodel (hardwood laminate), and in selecting the underlayment, all I could think of was this post.
I am now the proud owner of a moisture barrier/sound-muffling underlayment, and it’s all because I couldn’t help but think of this post. I’m not sure if I hate or love you all.
May 25, 2014 at 5:55 pm rating: 90
#50
The Elf
It’s amazing how much noise can transmit through ceilings – my little 1 lb ferret girls sounded like elephants when they really got going with the weasel wardancing.
But this is totally the wrong way to handle a noise complaint, and noise is a part of apartment life. Note writer should just consider moving to someplace where other people aren’t.
And note-receiver: consider thicker carpet pads or area rugs over carpeting. It might help.
May 27, 2014 at 10:53 am rating: 90
#51
Sapphire116
Oh boy do I have a story to tell!
When I was dating now-husband, he lived on the second floor of a 2 story apartment building. He had lived there for 5 years and for 4 years was pretty friendly with the couple who lived beneath him. They moved and a CRAZY neighbor took their place. Shortly after crazy neighbor moved it, he started complaining that husband was stomping around at all hours and doing jumping jacks. Husband told me this guy was going crazy and was escalating his aggressiveness, but I sort of thought he was exaggerating.
Until one night I stayed over. We had just finished a watching a movie at 10 pm and were getting ready for bed. While in the bathroom, I accidentally knocked the toilet seat lid down. It was loud, but nothing crazy, and we had been super quiet all night. The guy downstairs STORMED upstairs and started screaming through the door. He started to then throw his body against the door, screaming that he’d kill my boyfriend. We ended up calling the cops. That was the first of many incidents where we had to call the police on him. One time we had just woken up and taken 4 steps out of bed onto the carpeted floor when he came upstairs, ready to kill. The guy would wait for my husband to leave the apartment and then he’d leave his, and walk 2 feet behind my husband all the way to his car, glaring at him the whole time.
Husband complained to the apartment management multiple times and they refused to get involved. Finally he just broke his lease and moved out. It was ridiculous.
May 28, 2014 at 10:30 am rating: 90
#52
Tedi_Bee
Oh if she was making a threat against my family and my baby I’d call the police and tell them. Then I’d get her recorded threatening me and my family to get a restraining order against her. It’ll look great for future rentals that want to know her rental history when she’s thrown out for threats. Actually where in glendale do you live, I live there too. I’d love to go over and jump up and down on your floors and then wait outside the door with the phone telling her step up here and I’ll have you arrested for disturbing MY peace and threatening me.
Jun 2, 2014 at 3:37 am rating: 90
#53
Paige
Does anyone know a certain area in a city or town where there are lots of noise complaints from neighbors? Maybe someone that has posted on this website about problems they have had in the past or currently?
Jun 4, 2014 at 9:41 am rating: 90
#54
Paige
Does anyone know a certain area in a city or town where there are lots of noise complaints from neighbors? Maybe someone that has posted on this website about problems they have had in the past or currently.
Jun 4, 2014 at 9:41 am rating: 90
#55
Marissa
Common-sense rule of thumb: if you can’t afford a house, don’t freaking have a kid. Condoms, people. They work wonders. Subjecting your poor apartment neighbors to the ear-shattering noises kids make (from screaming to stomping and everything in between) is the height of stupidity, irresponsibility, and just plain breathtaking self-centeredness. Team Notewriter all the way. (Aside from the “running upstairs and throwing herself against the door” part, because that’s a little excessive. But only a little.)
Also, the most important part to point out: parents, especially of small children, are virtually NEVER rational when it comes to their kids. To them, child behavior that normal, sane people would consider obnoxious, disruptive, and unacceptable is nothing more than “awww, look at how pweshus Junior is!” And you can easily tell that Holly is in this camp. Anyone who refers to her kid as “my little girl” rather than “my kid” or “my daughter” is obviously guzzling the “My Precious Angel Dumpling can do no wrong” kool-aid.
Aug 7, 2014 at 5:22 pm rating: 90
#56
delislice
So here’s my story: Following a combination of circumstances, we found ourselves living in a rented apartment for several years while our 2 kids were in middle and high school. We were on the second floor of three.
The neighbors directly over us, in an apartment with an identical layout, had EIGHT people: Man, wife, his mother, and their five children. For starters, that’s very very crowded (heck, we were crowded).
We tried to cut them slack. Truly. But:
(1) Their children’s favorite entertainments were playing tag in the apartment, accompanied by much shrieking, and all five of them jumping on the bed, usually between 10 and 11 p.m. I knew it was all five because Dad would invariably call each of them by name to “get off our bed,” but not until they’d enjoyed their nightly trampoline session.
(2) Then Dad took up the drums.
Nov 2, 2014 at 2:23 pm rating: 90
#57
Anon
People with kids shouldn’t have an upstairs apt period.I remember when my old neighbors who had a kid that used to run around and roller skate on the concrete above me and run up and down the stairs with him and his friends and they used to sit on the stairs throwing their snack trash on my balcony below even though he was about 11 or 12 and should know better moved I thought I would get peace and a couple with a toddler moved in it the baby constantly jumped up and down in his crib,ran all over the apt all day and night until bedtime then no relief at bedtime because mom would take a bath before dad got home then they watched loud pornos and had sex every night or one day in between.Dad blared rap music all day and thought he was some bad ass when you had enough and banged on the ceiling running down and threatening people for shit he and his family are doing.They also had many guest over running around with kids too and the kids would also run up and down the stairs.The only peace was when they went away for a few days to get married then I heard them stomping up the stairs bringing all their gifts up and knew I couldn’t take it anymore it was so nice with them gone.The only solution was to move I don’t live in an apt now I never could again unless it was a single unit with nobody above or below.That’s the problem though so many families having kids they can’t afford and just keep stuffing them into 2 bedroom apts making everyone’s life miserable.Kids need a house I had to move because of the kids above me yes but also all around me they were knoking on doors,putting things in peepholes,drawing on concrete,sitting on your balcony and eating and throwing trash,teenagers and little kids playing balls outside your door kicking footballs into the siding glass door and windows and doors and telling you to fuck off when you say something apts are no place for kids and I didn’t hate kids before that experience but now I do.I empathize with the person who wrote the note just because people have kids they think others who don’t should just put up with all the crap and they say they are only kids unfortunately I think the best bet is wait until that lease is up and move for the note writer only way they are going to get their sanity back.
Apr 7, 2015 at 4:14 pm rating: 90
#58
Geekgoddess
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Here. I think you lost these, and it looks like you are running low.
Apr 7, 2015 at 4:25 pm rating: 90
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