Polite notice, terrible font

June 12th, 2014 · 128 comments

Rebecca in London spotted this notice in her boyfriend’s block of flats. “While it’s true you do notice washing machines running, they’re not that loud,” she says. “On the night of the note being ‘edited’, there was defiant laundry running at 11:30pm.”

Polite notice (TERRIBLE FONT) Let's be considerate neighbors

related: Lord of the Laundry Room

FILED UNDER: "polite notice" · laundry · London · neighbors · noise · rebuttals


128 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Red Delicious

    Maybe we should just complain about everything all the time. You know not everyone works the normal 9-5, and gotta do laundry when they can find some conscious hours. That’s why there’s no restrictions on time periods you can use the laundry. Washing machines aren’t that loud unless there’s something wrong with them, so maybe someone should be talking to the manager/super/maintenance about it, and not being a passive aggressive dick hole.

    Jun 12, 2014 at 2:36 pm   rating: 31  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   kermit

      Actually, plenty of apartment buildings lock the laundry room after 10pm or before 6am. It’s not necessarily a question of the laundry machine being loud (although that can be an issue).

      It’s also an issue of sound insulation. In sketchy areas, an unlocked laundry room can also attract miscreants and vandals.

      Jun 12, 2014 at 3:11 pm   rating: 31  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.2   kermit

      *lock the laundry room after 1pm and don’t open it before 6am

      Jun 12, 2014 at 3:13 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.3   Tea

      This is in the U.K and very few ‘apartment’ buildings will have laundry rooms, most flats will contain at washing machine. Chances are they can hear their neighbours machine through the ceiling/wall.

      Jun 12, 2014 at 3:38 pm   rating: 19  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.4   pooham

      Or the load is unbalance and they can hear the washer walking across the floor. It used to scare the sh*t out of me when the washer would get unbalanced!

      Jun 12, 2014 at 4:56 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.5   The Elf

      We like to say the machine is possessed.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 3:17 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.6   Boon

      Fill a top-loader with a comforter or heavy blankets – when it hits the spin cycle, you won’t think they’re quiet anymore. My Samsung front-loaders are a freaking dream though.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 6:13 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.7   The Beast Among Us

      I remember when some random drunk dude got into the laundry room at an apartment complex where I lived. He had soiled himself, so he removed his pants and left them halfway in the washer, and then left. The laundry room was right next to my apartment door, and the smell made me want to jump off the balcony instead of go out the door.

      It took three days for management to clean it up, and I notified them of it the first morning.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 7:09 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
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      Jun 14, 2014 at 3:03 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
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      Jun 17, 2014 at 4:12 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #2   Phoenix

    You know, when people say “just talk to the person” I always wonder how you’re expected to confront them. Do you take out the offending load of laundry and wander throughout the building, knocking on doors and asking “is this your underwear? If so we need to talk.”

    This is a rather dictatorial note, and I agree that washing needs to be done whenever it needs to be done. I just wonder how you’d find the offending party.

    Jun 12, 2014 at 3:11 pm   rating: 31  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   Tea

      It’s probably in their neighbours flat so chances are you know which flat is causing the ‘noise’

      Jun 12, 2014 at 3:40 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.2   kermit

      It depends on the layout of the building. There’s 4 suspects, which means that they’d have to complain to 3 innocent neighbors before hitting the culprit.

      Jun 12, 2014 at 3:47 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.3   GhostWriter bang

      While it is possible that you could complain to the three innocent neighbors first, the chance of that happening is only about 25%.

      It is more likely that you will hit the culprit on either your first or second try.

      Jun 17, 2014 at 3:54 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #3   buni

    What does that last line say? At first I read it as “P.S. I’ll use my washing machine when I live”, but maybe the last word is “like”.

    Jun 12, 2014 at 3:23 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   e

      I initially read “live” too, and thought of the classic US gun retort about cold, dead hands.

      Jun 12, 2014 at 4:35 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #4   Belaani

    And I’ll beat the snot out of you when I like – it’s only fair.

    Jun 12, 2014 at 3:24 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   Chinchillazilla

      …no?

      Jun 12, 2014 at 11:10 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #5   Quite Contrary

    Defiant laundry? Me thinks the submitter might also have some issues.

    Jun 12, 2014 at 3:34 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

    • #5.1   FeRD bang

      “Issues”? That word gets thrown around way too much. It’s a funny description of a machine running in clear “violation” of the note. (You’ll find that most submitters are inclined to be snarky, which seems understandable and wholly appropriate.)

      …Wait, why am I even explaining this to someone whose handle is “Quite Contrary”? If I wanted to accuse anyone of having “issues”… :roll: (And yet, the simple explanation is probably just that your name is Mary. No issues at all. See how that works?)

      Jun 12, 2014 at 6:23 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #5.2   Quite Contrary

      My name is Mary. :)

      Jun 12, 2014 at 6:37 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #5.3   Lil'

      Maybe you should have just gone with “Christmas”.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 10:30 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #5.4   Tesselara

      Good lord, mine is too. Way to embrace the plague of our childhood! Little lambs, contrariness, typhoid, clapping songs, and the virgin…. People really love to share their brainstorms with you.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 2:47 pm   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #5.5   it's naptime

      Tis the season to be merry.

      -Hey, that’s my name!

      No shit!

      Jun 13, 2014 at 2:49 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #5.6   Quite Contrary

      Oh, Tesselara, you feel my pain. Bless you.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 2:49 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #5.7   Jami

      Tesslara, what? No bloody?

      (Please don’t hurt me.)

      But now I really want someone who’s name is Mary to join with the user name “Of Scots.”

      Jun 13, 2014 at 7:41 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #5.8   Tesselara

      You know, I’ve never heard that one! That one is actually really clever!
      I also go by a nickname “MC” and boy, have I heard them all. Except for this one Jesuit priest who called me “MC 900 Foot Jesus” which was entirely new and never repeated.
      See–I don’t mind the brainstorms–as long as they’re unique.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 8:31 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #6   My name is Princess!

    Oh the irony. Passive aggressively telling someone to take their passive aggressive note and shove it. The smiley flowers add a little something though.

    Jun 12, 2014 at 3:37 pm   rating: 38  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   shwo! bang

      It’s like passive inception.

      Jun 12, 2014 at 7:11 pm   rating: 13  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.2   Tesselara

      Oh, man I hated that movie!

      Jun 13, 2014 at 2:47 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #7   Carmen

    Where is the passive aggression? Get out your feelings. I’m with the note writer. All they were trying to do was post a PSA for the building, how can you be upset about this?

    Jun 12, 2014 at 3:54 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   FeRD bang

      All they were trying to do was post a PSA for the building

      Except, their Announcement does nothing to Serve the Public. It’s entirely self-serving. It’s an SSA, which is just ASS backwards.

      Jun 12, 2014 at 6:25 pm   rating: 33  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.2   Lita bang

      Yep, that is pretty ass-backwards. :P

      Jun 13, 2014 at 11:13 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.3   rushgirl2112

      It’s not a PSA. It’s someone thinking that they have the right to make up rules and insist that everyone else follow them.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 5:04 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.4   Sarah

      Certainly under the terms of my lease, we have to be quiet after 11pm. That’s a pretty standard term.

      Jun 14, 2014 at 2:24 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.5   L

      But that’s something you agreed to in your lease. If it’s not in their lease/put out there by the person owning the building, it’s just being a jerk.

      Jun 16, 2014 at 3:49 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #7.6   kermit

      Noise laws are a community/zoning issue. In a residential area, it doesn’t matter if it’s not on the lease or posted anywhere.

      If you’re making a racket after 11PM and somebody calls the police, you’re still getting fined whether it’s on the lease or not.

      Jun 18, 2014 at 12:13 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #8   magicdomino

    I don’t know why the handwriter is whining about the font; it’s not like it is the much reviled Comic Sans.

    Hm, on second thought, it is worse than Comic Sans for a note about washing machines. What would be a good font for P-A washing machine notes?

    Jun 12, 2014 at 4:22 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #8.1   pooham

      I think it is sort of a polite font.

      Jun 12, 2014 at 4:53 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.2   kermit

      Halloween fonts like these would be more appropriate because they look like they’ve just been ripped in the wash
      http://www.fontspace.com/category/halloween

      Jun 12, 2014 at 5:10 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.3   The Beast Among Us

      The font I have that is most like this bad font is Apple Chancery. I HATE Apple Chancery font. It’s like a cursive font, but none of the letters connect.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 8:04 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.4   Lita bang

      *looks up Apple Chancery*

      …That’s a pretty douche-tastic font. I understand your HATE.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 8:20 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.5   Tesselara

      I did too. And ick. Somehow, it’s making me think of papyrus, which is a font I come across often, since I work in the non-profit field, and there is a practically orgasmic love of that font in that world. I am so sick of papyrus.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 8:34 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #8.6   VM

      It’s a calligraphy-type font, based ultimately on the 15th century Italian “cancelleresca corsiva.”
      I’m fond of calligraphy so I can’t really hate any font like this, though I’ll admit Apple Chancery does smack of bible verses lettered by sunday school teachers who think they’re “Artistic.”

      Jun 14, 2014 at 3:14 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #9   Linda

    That is an insane request. Unless those are the building rules that were made clear from the beginning, 9pm is a perfectly reasonable time to do your laundry. Here in the South, I usually don’t start mine until 8 or 9 in summer so I don’t heat the house up running the dryer.

    Jun 12, 2014 at 4:53 pm   rating: 22  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   Rachel

      Innocent question. If you don’t wash until night because of the heat, why do you need to use a dryer?

      Jun 12, 2014 at 8:08 pm   rating: 7  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.2   Stewart Peterson

      @Rachel

      Humidity?

      Jun 12, 2014 at 8:21 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.3   poopypants

      I live in the tropics, you can still hang dry with humidity.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 12:52 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.4   Djagir

      I can’t speak for Linda, but I live in a condo complex where the HOA rules forbid hanging laundry on the balcony. That pretty much leaves me with a dryer as the only option.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 12:55 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.5   The Elf

      I’m with Linda. In the summer, I don’t want the energy draw and the heat of doing laundry.(Washer + dryer. When we bought the house it didn’t have a dryer and 3 weeks of hanging undies up to dry in the basement was 3 weeks too long). Plus we get those summer afternoon/evening showers frequently, and I don’t want to overload the septic drain field. So I pop a load in the wash in the late evening and into the dryer as I go to bed or first thing when I get up. Of course, I’m in a single family home, so if a neighbor complains about the noise, they have superhuman hearing.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 6:56 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.6   buni

      And, depending on where you live, electricity may be cheaper in the evening when there is less demand.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 8:10 am   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.7   d.d

      I live in a place where electricity is in fact cheaper in the evening, most people live in very small apartments, and NOBODY ever does their laundry before that time unless they are in a hurry. I’ve also never heard of anyone complaining about that…

      Jun 13, 2014 at 9:26 am   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.8   kaetra

      Tumble dried clothes are much softer. Also, I don’t want my clean clothes reeking of that horrid outdoor air smell that reminds me of that awful activity known as “Camping”. I prefer the scent of clean that only chemical detergents, fabric softener and tumble dry produce. Line drying is far more work. I don’t want a bunch of wet clothes hanging about my house. Outdoors is full of bugs, people and temperatures that are not ideal. I dislike the look of clothespin marks on clothes. In other words, I’ll tumble dry when I want.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 11:39 am   rating: 21  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.9   Tesselara

      I <3 line dried clothes. They smell like sunshine and meadows!

      Jun 13, 2014 at 2:50 pm   rating: 14  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.10   rushgirl2112

      “I live in the tropics, you can still hang dry with humidity.”

      The one time I’ve had to line dry clothes was when I was in Italy in the summer. Plenty of heat, not a huge amount of humidity.

      It still took at least two days to dry my jeans.

      I’m also not allowed to line dry clothes in my neighborhood. And in an apartment (IF they allow it), you don’t always have a balcony or one with enough space.

      It’s nice if you can, but it’s not possible or convenient for everyone.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 5:09 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.11   Linda

      Very few condos/apartments allow you to hang dry your clothes much less have a place large enough to do so. And even if they did, at 90%+ humidity it would take half a day or more to dry, assuming we don’t get an afternoon shower. I have lived many places where they asked you not to do laundry between midnight and 6am, but 9pm is ridiculously early. And if I do dry my clothes in the dryer during the day with that kind of humidity, it takes longer, uses more energy, and heats my house up for hours afterwards.

      Jun 14, 2014 at 1:18 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.12   Jami

      I air dry certain things that might shrink otherwise. My t-shirts, especially anything with printing on it, and my jeans. Also bras. They get five, ten minutes in the dryer tops with a dryer sheet then air dry the rest of the way.

      But they don’t get hung outside – they get hung up in the garage. Only cause we don’t have a clothesline.

      Jun 14, 2014 at 5:44 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.13   L

      Air dried clothes for years because the house we rented only had a washer, no dryer. -40*C winter means hanging inside. Tiny house means the entire upstairs would be cold and damp. Tiny, cold, damp house means crunchy, crispy clothing that ends up smelling funny because it took 3 days to dry.

      I only air/lay on a towel dry a few shirts occasionally now. Will never go back.

      Jun 16, 2014 at 3:53 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.14   buni

      I have serious pollen allergies, so won’t hang dry outside. Plus I don’t like the idea of bugs or bird droppings on my clean clothes. I let my clothes hang dry in the basement for 2-3 days, then pop in the dryer for 15 minutes to get the last of the dampness out.

      Jun 16, 2014 at 7:32 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #10   Stewart Peterson

    Am I the only person who briefly thought it said “using the washing machine after gym?”

    That would be the best time to use it…

    Jun 12, 2014 at 7:42 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

     
  • #11   Rachel

    I don’t use my washing machine after 9pm, and I live in a house with plenty of space between myself and my neighbours. It’s just considerate. If you’re going to live in an apartment block, regardless of how much choice you have, then you need to accept that your idea of consideration might have to be extended. Or you can continue to live in an environment of simmering hostility.

    Jun 12, 2014 at 8:07 pm   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   turing tested, mother approved

      If you live in a house with plenty of space between, and your neighbors would still be able to hear it after 9 pm, just how loud is your washing machine and are you using proper hearing protection when you do laudry?

      Jun 13, 2014 at 12:16 pm   rating: 30  small thumbs up

       
    • #11.2   Tesselara

      Turing! I approve of your name!!!! I’m glad you’re not a computer.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 2:51 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #12   JoDa

    Team editor, regardless of whether the washing machine is in the apartment or in a laundry room.

    In the apartment, well, they’re just not that loud, 9 PM is just not that late, and should there be some kind of special consideration (machine is unbalanced and making a racket, for example), a quick knock and “hey, can I help you level that out? We’ll both be happier” is the adult response.

    If communal…have you TRIED to use a communal laundry room? There are never enough machines, and people tend to get on tears of washing everything in their house at once to the point you just grab time when you can get it. I have to buy machines for my unit, so I’m currently using the communal room. If I *don’t* do my laundry at 10 PM, I NEVER get to do my laundry. It’s especially frustrating since everyone has hookups and the point of the laundry room is for over-sized things and new people who haven’t gotten machines yet (moving sucks, so I see some grace…I’ll probably have lived here for 5 months before I get done picking a set out and taking a day off to have them delivered and installed). Yet, there are people who have been living here for 5+ years who just never bothered to buy their own machines (don’t play the poor card…you don’t buy a condo in a luxury building if you’re poor).

    Jun 12, 2014 at 8:50 pm   rating: 20  small thumbs up

    • #12.1   kermit

      I’m sorry, but I just don’t understand this complaint. Am I the only person who’s thought of doing laundry early in the morning? It takes all of 5 minutes to throw the clothes in the wash. Then head out for a jog, come back ~30 minutes later, throw them in the dryer, resume your jog/breakfast and return ~60 minutes later. It’s one of the few activities that you can genuinely multi-task without turning scatterbrained.

      Jun 12, 2014 at 10:10 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.2   JoDa

      It may take all of 5 minutes to throw the clothes in, but it takes ~30 minutes for them to wash and about 45 minutes for them to dry. Sorry, I’m not getting up over an hour and a half before I have to set off on my 35 minute commute to work to wash my clothes. Beyond being slightly unreasonable in thinking that people will get up before 7 AM to put their wash in, others would still complain that they’re trying to sleep when you turn on the washer at 6:45 AM. You really can’t win, except in expecting people to be reasonable about the fact that there will be – GASP – some noises if you don’t have a couple acres to yourself. In the place I just moved out of, my laundry was *literally* 5′ from the head of my bed, and I’d often turn it on and turn in for the night. If I can sleep through that, you can sleep through the neighbor’s machine or the common machine.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 12:43 am   rating: 24  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.3   JoDa

      And I will say, NO ONE cares when you do your laundry in my building, either in your own unit or in the common room. The only requests that have been made are to close the laundry room door and don’t let the access door that closes itself slam if it’s late or early. Both of those are 100% reasonable requests, and I will happily abide by them.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 12:53 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.4   Ramentastic

      Kermit, if some people did their laundry that early (I assume the running is a fairly early activity?) someone might complain about that too! 5 am laundry, ugh!

      My machines take 2 hours to wash and dry, I don’t have 2 spare hours in the morning (but I’m not a morning person).

      Jun 13, 2014 at 1:21 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.5   kermit

      Well I am assuming that at once a week you people have to get up that early to exercise anyway. The duration is perfect for a work-out so as to not waste time just waiting. There’s plenty of people who run outside in the morning and if anybody is complaining, it’s the squirrels and birds because the runners don’t feed them.

      And in terms of complaints about noise, legally speaking noise in the morning is allowed. The garbage trucks are out well before 7AM and they make quite a racket. But excessive noise after 10-11PM is against the noise laws.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 12:52 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.6   The Elf

      No, the alarm already goes off at 4:30am. Such is the curse of the long commute. If I got up any earlier, no matter what the reason, I’d turn homicidal.

      More so.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 3:19 pm   rating: 11  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.7   kermit

      Eek.

      If I had to get up at 4:30 am just to commute to work, I’d just get a sleeping bag and sleep under my desk at work.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 3:30 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.8   rushgirl2112

      “Well I am assuming that at once a week you people have to get up that early to exercise anyway.”

      Um, I don’t know ANYONE who does that.

      I exercise in the evening because I consider anything before 9am* to fall into “only if absolutely necessary” territory.

      *Okay, 11am. Night owl. Lots of us are.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 5:16 pm   rating: 20  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.9   L

      I was getting up at 4:30am to go to work at 5:30 for a while there. Pretty sure nobody wants me doing laundry at 3am.

      Also in some places you can’t leave your laundry unattended.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 7:44 pm   rating: 5  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.10   uncreative

      Not only do I not know anyone who wakes up a couple of hours early once a week, I’ve never heard it recommended. It goes against all of the medical advice I’ve been given about sleep and migraine health. It is strongly recommended that you follow a consistent sleep schedule every single day to the best that you can. That is, the same wake up time and the same bed time every day, if possible. Waking up a couple of hours early would go against best sleep hygiene practices and be considered bad for your health (not necessarily horrible, just not ideal), so I don’t know people who would generally do it for health reasons. But if it’s the only time you can schedule in exercise that is good for you or if it’s working for you – that’s great. You have your own body with its own quirks. But it definitely is not a recommended nor standard thing to do. And if you do have either a tendency toward migraines or certain sleep disorders (or both, since they are often co-morbid), then it is strongly recommended against. I’m not a doctor, but I have certainly talked to doctors about these topics more than I’d like to have.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 8:33 pm   rating: 8  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.11   kermit

      I don’t know what doctors you’ve been talking to, Uncreative. Exercising in the morning is pretty universally accepted as a healthy and smart thing to do if you want to have energy for the rest of your day and not crash at lunch or during the afternoon. Circadian rhythms are more or less the same for everybody in the same time zone, night owl or not.

      Besides that, there’s a huge difference between shifting your sleep schedule by 90 minutes a few times a week and having a haphazard sleep schedule that wrecks your sanity.

      And I don’t know about Elf or L, but I bet both of them would murder you if you asked them to get up at 4:30AM on their days off.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 9:12 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.12   uncreative

      Exercising in the morning is recommended. Waking up early to do it is not. What I was discussing is having an inconsistent sleep schedule, which is not recommended – and is vastly not recommended if you are either prone to migraines or have certain sleep disorders. People prone to migraines are strongly encouraged to keep highly consistent schedules day to day. The value of exercising in the morning is totally unrelated to the harm of waking up early. Obviously, what is recommended is exercising in the morning on a day when you do not have to wake up early to do it, such as for many people, a weekend.

      Also, circadian rhythms are not the same from person to person. It’s quite possible that most people in the same time zone have similar patterns and similar things will work, but many people have less typical patterns and need different patterns. People have a strong tendency to overgeneralize.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 9:16 pm   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.13   Kasaba

      I live in a building with 6 flats, and we have a notice from property management in our hallway, asking people to limit noise before 7am and after 10pm. I have no problems with this. I rarely do the laundry during the week, and usually wash it in the morning during the weekend.

      Previously I lived in a house converted into bedsits and we shared an ancient, mega noisy old washer. It was was great for drowning out the sound of the neighbours shagging.

      Jun 14, 2014 at 9:51 am   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.14   assiveProgressive

      What are ”bedsits”?

      Jun 14, 2014 at 10:17 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.15   Kasaba

      In London, it’s a small room with a bed/somewhere to sit (sleeper couch), and if you’re lucky you have a small kitchenette and maybe a shower/loo in the room. I paid £725/month in zone 2 a few years ago.

      Jun 14, 2014 at 10:44 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.16   Seanette

      So pretty much what those of us in the US would call a studio apartment?

      Jun 14, 2014 at 12:54 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.17   JoDa

      Yeah, I do the bulk of my exercising in the evening, though I do get a touch in the morning with 10-ish minute walks on either end of my subway ride. That’s plenty to wake me up so that I’m fully functional by the time I hit my desk (plus the coffee helps). Not everyone is a morning person, and there’s really no harm in getting the workout in at 6 PM if you’re going to be up until 11 – Midnight.

      Laws and rules vary by locality and building, but the general standards are things like “noise that would tend to disturb others in their home” (which generally excludes low-level household noises), and kick in between 10 PM and Midnight, not 9 PM. All of my buildings are 11 PM – 7 AM Sunday-Thursday and Midnight – 8 AM Friday and Saturday. Therefore, doing laundry at 9 PM would be a-okay (even if it somehow broke into “disturbing” noise), but 6:30 AM or earlier would NOT. But it would be okay, actually, either of those times, because (barring an unbalanced machine) laundry isn’t that loud, AND the noise has to persist for 15 minutes or longer, and spin cycles are rarely that long.

      Beyond that, living in shared buildings is a two-way street. One shouldn’t hold ragers on school nights (or any time, really), but you have to recognize that living involves a little noise, and either learn to deal with it or insulate yourself from it somehow (white noise machine, earplugs, etc.). One of my old neighbors bought one of those super-fancy blenders and started making herself smoothies before work. Even though she left for work at 6:30 AM and it DID wake me up on occasion, I never complained because some noise is to be expected. She wasn’t blasting her music or stomping around unnecessarily, just making herself breakfast. I know plenty of people who, commute included, put in 12-15 hour days…under the ideas here (no noise after 9 because NW says, no noise before 7 or 8 because the rules say), they basically could do NOTHING because they only have an hour or so of time they’re “permitted” to live normally.

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    • #12.18   JoDa

      Also, I believe Elf has mentioned before they (he, she?) live in the DC area. There are plenty of people here who have 2-3 hour commutes. I pay dearly – in cash, space, and safety (to an extent…you won’t get jumped but you may well be burgled) – to have a 35 minute commute. A 1400 ft2 house in my neighborhood ranges from $420K (if you’re willing to live a block from the projects and kinda far from the Metro) to nearly $600K if you want to be in a safer spot several blocks from the projects and closer to transit.

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    • #12.19   kermit

      I think that’s pretty much the norm of house prices if you’re looking in major city in the US/Canada. Part of the reason is that a lot of people working in the capital have pretty high salaries, when you compare them to the same job elsewhere where housing is cheaper.

      For myself, being a lazy cheapskate, I would have no qualms about sleeping at work if it meant avoiding at 3 hour commute. Personally I don’t see much point in owning a nice house if I’m hardly ever in it to enjoy it (hence the reason I rent and live like a hobo).

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    • #12.20   JoDa

      Sure, there are people here who can pay huge sums for their house, and that’s why it’s so expensive (though not exclusively…restrictive zoning and NIMBYs suing anyone who tries to build new housing have a large role in high prices, as well). But there are lots of us who can’t. Elf chooses the far-flung burbs. I choose a less-desirable neighborhood and a small condo. Note that I said those were the prices in MY neighborhood…my LESS-DESIRABLE neighborhood. In safer neighborhoods those same houses top a million on the regular. Despite the fact that there are people who can afford them, there are also LOTS of people who AREN’T lobbyists, lawyers, consultants, and the like who work in the city and can’t. And if you chose to rent here…well, godspeed. The new building up the street from me charges $2200/month for a 1-bedroom, plus utilities, parking, and an annual amenity fee (most are $500, but I don’t know what theirs is, specifically). Yes, in my “less desirable” neighborhood where you might not get jumped but may well be a crime victim in lots of other ways. I can’t see making the drive myself, but given the alternatives, I understand why some people do.

      Jun 14, 2014 at 7:03 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.21   L

      Yeah, no, I wasn’t getting up earlier than 4:30 on purpose XD Shifting from 5 to 4:30 was bad enough when my shift changed. 5, I could handle, but that 4:30 was terrible, and I could never nap. I was going to bed at 8:30pm. Two years of that. One of the only things I’m grateful for about being mostly out of work.

      I don’t have a car so technically I guess I was getting some excercise in in the mornings walking to work :P

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    • #12.22   buni

      After reading these descriptions I feel so fortunate to live and work in the boonies. I have a 10 minute commute and my house and nearly 1 acre of land, only cost me $100k. Yay for low cost-of-living.

      Jun 16, 2014 at 7:52 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.23   The Elf

      Yup, I chose my DC burbs (though, with two wage earners with jobs in different parts of the metropolitian area, some compromise was also involved) and pay the price with the long commute. I own that choice. It’s worth it for the fact that I can have a small, single-family home on a big chunk of land dotted with old oaks. It’s my own little slice of heaven, and the long commute is the price I pay for it. The time that I am there to enjoy it is totally worth it.

      But it does eliminate this idea of getting up early for a purpose other than going to work! Hah! As if I had the time!

      Jun 16, 2014 at 8:11 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.24   kermit

      In the abstract, a long commute is nice because it gives you a chance to clear your head and organize your priorities.

      In practice however, if you’re the one driving (especially on a motorcycle!) I don’t think you get to do any of that because driving requires your full concentration.

      Personally, I wouldn’t trust myself to drive safely that early/late and that’s why I take public transit.

      Jun 16, 2014 at 3:32 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.25   The Elf

      That’s why I take public transit too. The bike just gets me TO the transit! I think if I rode the motorcycle all the way in, through city traffic, during rush hour, I wouldn’t live to tell of it.

      Jun 17, 2014 at 6:29 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.26   kermit

      Be safe, Elf! Although you wouldn’t have a commuting problem at all if you are clever.

      If you were to get some dirt on a diplomat or fat bureaucrat, you could offer to keep your mouth shut in exchange for using their car service.

      Jun 17, 2014 at 2:08 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.27   deprogrammed

      The note isn’t passive aggressive; that would be waiting for the codswallop who edited the note to start his laundry – then add bleach.

      Jun 17, 2014 at 9:44 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.28   JoDa

      You’re welcome to come over and inspect my “fat bureaucrat” digs anytime. I’m sure you’ll be blown away by my 650 ft2 and cheapest stainless steel appliances the developer could get his hands on. Also by my luxurious neighborhood full of average people and some shady characters. If you really want the full experience, I recommend staying over on a Friday or Saturday night, where you can experience the 2 AM basketball games full of cursing and screaming in the nearby park (*just* within earshot).

      And if I showed you the price, you’d choke… In “second tier” cities, you could buy a 3 or 4 bedroom house close to downtown and very nicely finished for the same or less.

      I’m not complaining too much, though. I earn a good salary that allows me to live close to work in a comfortable home. And most of my neighbors are really nice people. But I can’t see a lot of “typical Americans” viewing the lifestyle I can *just* afford as luxurious. Works for me, but I see why others choose the ‘burbs.

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  • #13   Ramentastic

    Team editor. Especially if it’s an in-unit washer.

    The only time I’ve ever cared about when someone did laundry was as a teen, when my grandma would run the washer on Saturdays when she had decided I’d slept in long enough. The machine was wobbly and the spin cycle made it thump against my bedroom wall, right where my bed was. So PA! Haha

    Oh I also had a neighbor who snuck a washer into his apartment (an apartment with NO hookups), and he would run it all day and night and use up all the hot water from our shared water heater. We didn’t realize it was a washer making that racket, but eventually the landlord made him remove it. He’d set it up to drain down his kitchen sink.

    Jun 13, 2014 at 1:28 am   rating: 9  small thumbs up

    • #13.1   TKD

      Right now I am imagining a large washing machine lurking near the bushes outside the building. He is wearing a pair of dark glasses, over coat and Fedora. Furtively he glances about the street, biding his time until the moment he can slip in the back door unnoticed. I hope he remembered to paint over the lens on the security camera.

      Well, that’s the only way I can imagine a washer being able to sneak into anywhere.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 7:07 am   rating: 17  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.2   ramentastic

      TKD, that is a fantastic visual!

      This was in a pretty small and sketchy complex, where we ignored most of what our neighbors were doing, like broken bottle fights. I only had to call 911 once. It was an open building, no hallways.

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  • #14   The Elf

    If you have to state up front that this is a polite notice, is it really?

    Jun 13, 2014 at 7:03 am   rating: 6  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   TKD

      “Polite notice: I am about to rip your arm off and beat you to death with it.”

      I don’t know Elf. The “Polite notice” part seems to make it feel less aggressive. :-)

      Jun 13, 2014 at 7:12 am   rating: 10  small thumbs up

       
    • #14.2   pooham

      Well it is in a polite font.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 11:34 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #14.3   The Elf

      Can fonts be polite? I guess any font is polite, as long as it isn’t made from letters cut out of a magazine. Or Comic Sans, the Devil’s Own Font.

      Jun 13, 2014 at 12:17 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #14.4   pooham

      I think Times New Roman and Calibri are serious, boring fonts.
      Arial seems friendly. So does Comic Sans. I think Comic Sans is confused by all the hostility. :(

      Jun 13, 2014 at 2:33 pm   rating: 6  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #15   Lil'

    Yet another reason I am happy to live in a house. Some people complain about any and every thing. Try living next to my old neighbor who would rip me from a sound sleep at midnight with video game explosions so loud they would literally shake the pictures on my walls. A washing machine past 9 p.m.? Give me a break.

    Jun 13, 2014 at 10:34 am   rating: 3  small thumbs up

     
  • #16   Lita bang

    I fully admit I’m exhausted, but at first I read that as “police notice” and wondered who called the damn cops on someone doing laundry…

    Jun 13, 2014 at 11:15 am   rating: 12  small thumbs up

    • #16.1   Tesselara

      Lita! this is the second “I’m exhausted” post you’ve put up. What’s going on in your life?

      Jun 13, 2014 at 3:18 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.2   Tesselara

      Hope everything is okay!

      Jun 13, 2014 at 3:19 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.3   Lita bang

      Aw, thanks Tesselara! <3 Everything's fine; I've actually been working on renovating my bathroom and kitchen. Had to lay the subfloor and underlayment in the bathroom myself (yeah, try finding someone who will actually do a 20 square foot room…hence the DIY) and it is…definitely far harder than I expected it to be. Eurgh.

      It's almost done, at least! I'm just trying to figure out how to get the laminate flooring in now…

      Jun 13, 2014 at 4:54 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.4   Lita bang

      (and I should add, this is where a friend who thinks I’m a serious overachiever wants me to mention I have fibromyalgia…meh! so I hurt more than most people. this still needs done. XP)

      Jun 13, 2014 at 4:57 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.5   Tesselara

      Ohhhh, ouch! You are my hero! That’s an awesome lot to get done, and with fibromyalgia to boot. Yeesh! Congrats on the industriousness!!!!

      Jun 13, 2014 at 8:38 pm   rating: 4  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.6   Lita bang

      Hee, thanks! It’s actually pretty fun, once you get past the “…I am entirely winging this and have NO idea what I’m doing.” XD I think it’s worth the extra ow, honestly. Especially since I should have my bathroom back by the end of next week! (no toilet for a few months…thank god we have three bathrooms.)

      Jun 13, 2014 at 9:27 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.7   Tesselara

      Three bathrooms! Lap of luxury! (our house has one, and if there’s a line, you are a little S.O.L.)

      We’re renovating our house all by ourselves, and the entire thing has been a learning process, but you feel SO proud when you get it right! Bravo for laying flooring. That one is not easy!

      Jun 14, 2014 at 5:44 am   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.8   Whawhawhatsis

      Amen on the fun of laying flooring. We ended up doing it for several rooms in our house, none of which had even walls (older house) or had things sticking out at odd angles or had woodwork protruding oddly, or a combination of all three. The only good thing about it was it gave my husband a good excuse to buy the scary power tools he’d always wanted. That was 15 years ago; I don’t think I’d be able to do it today, it was that hard work. Doing it with fibromyalgia? You are a brave, brave person!

      Jun 14, 2014 at 12:15 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.9   Lita bang

      Yep – three. XD Two level house with a basement, bathroom on each level. This entire upper level, in fact, was converted to an apartment, so I technically have my own place up here!

      Flooring is such a bitch, srsly. (Not to mention we almost had a HORRIBLE setback – but it turns out our saws cut the laminate very easily, so we’re good.) And yeah, we’ve bought a lot of power tools…any excuse to have moar tools! *ha*

      It’s not really so much brave, I think, as “it needs done” – but thank you! Honestly, doing it makes me feel a little better about myself, even if it hurts. I don’t want to be treated like some fragile delicate little thing because dammit, I am capable of doing All The Things. :P

      Jun 14, 2014 at 2:34 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.10   JoDa

      You can definitely get people to work on small bathrooms, but you’ll pay dearly for it. My bathroom in my old place was 35 ft2 (and, yes, it had a tub and everything!), and when the upstairs neighbor’s toilet leaked all over it, I did get a contractor to replace the ceiling. BUT it was super expensive for such a small space. I could have done the work for far less, but in that case I wasn’t the one paying for it (obviously and rightly).

      Jun 14, 2014 at 5:23 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.11   Lita bang

      Well, you’re a step ahead of me, JoDa! We can’t find ANYONE out here (middle of farm country) who’ll actually take on such a tiny job. No one wants to do anything for under a thousand bucks around here. :| We’re damn lucky we found a plumber who is as awesome as he is, or I would probably have no bathroom for the rest of my life. (We definitely got our money’s worth out of that one – he replaced pipes all the way down to the ground floor bathroom, pulled the old bathroom sink and fixed the misplaced the water lines, and he’ll be pulling the kitchen sink and replacing THOSE pipes too when we get the floor down and he can install the toilet/new bathroom sink. Excellent man.) So we really had no choice, and it’s probably not a bad idea to have these kinds of skills under my belt if we ever need to renovate AGAIN. :P

      Jun 14, 2014 at 6:14 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.12   kermit

      Even if you do find a contractor to work on such a small space, you have no guarantee that they won’t screw you over with shoddy work. Besides, there are a lot of resources out there that teach you how to do the non-electrical stuff properly. And it’s fun and rewarding to learn how to do stuff on your own, so good on you for trying Lita!

      Jun 14, 2014 at 6:54 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.13   Lita bang

      True dat, Kermit. Like I said, we got super lucky with our plumber. We were also briefly lucky with electrical stuff – found a very nice guy who works at a plastics factory and does electrical work on the side – but he seems to have vanished off the face of the earth, sadface. D: (The only actual ~electrician~ out here is seriously overpriced and undertalented…the guy who only does it on the side ended up fixing a metric fuckton of mistakes the actual electrician had made. And frankly, I don’t want any “professional” who drops multiple hissed F-bombs the instant they see my wiring. Guess what else the actual electrician did.)

      Jun 14, 2014 at 7:48 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.14   JoDa

      I asked around and got a contractor recommended by several friends, one who had done extensive work on their houses. He considered my job “building his client base” (his words). 2 years since the repair, and I wouldn’t hesitate to use him again or recommend him to friends. But, yes, it can be very hard to find someone to do small jobs. I’m glad I did, though, because I shouldn’t have even HAD to do that repair (I notified the neighbor that it *appeared* there was a leak when I spotted a small bubble in the paint, and she told me to bug off…AAAAAAAAAND finally ended up responsible for replacing my whole ceiling when it started raining on me when I was trying to pee, followed shortly by my entire ceiling collapsing), much less do it MYSELF.

      Jun 14, 2014 at 10:14 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.15   JoDa

      Also it wasn’t that far shy of a thousand bucks for the repair. Again, why I’ll say you’ll pay dearly for small jobs and can get a better deal doing them yourself, barring emergencies someone else is paying for. :)

      Jun 14, 2014 at 10:21 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.16   Lita bang

      Yeah, very true. In that sort of case, I’d definitely ask around and try to find someone. :) I’m glad it got taken care of pretty easily for you, I can’t even imagine my bathroom ceiling raining on and falling in on me while I’m trying to commune with the bladder gods!

      Jun 14, 2014 at 11:21 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

       
    • #16.17   JoDa

      I *just* escaped with my dignity before the ceiling gave way. Fortunately I had taken care of business already so I could clean up the mess and use the bathroom when nature called again later.

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  • #17   Havingfitz

    Reminds me of a nutty neighbor I had who was always knocking on my door demanding I turn off my dishwasher. I did not HAVE a dishwasher in my apartment, and I even let Crazy in several times so that he could see for himself I didn’t have one. He’d look around baffled, leave, and then a week later he’d be pounding on the door about my imaginary dishwasher again…it was cheap entertainment, at least.

    Jun 13, 2014 at 1:52 pm   rating: 21  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   Kasaba

      A few years ago, while I was extremely ill with pneumonia, I suffered from what I guess you would call auditory hallucinations. When the dishwasher was running or the kettle was boiling, it would sound like music playing to me (Led Zeppelin specifically). I would also hear my parents talk in their bedroom in the middle of the night, and when I knocked, I would find them fast asleep. Or I would hear people in the next room, when there was no one there. It freaked me out (especially the kettle/dishwasher thing), and my parents thought I was off my rocker obviously. Worst time.

      Jun 17, 2014 at 6:41 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #18   The Beast Among Us

    I just ruined your 69.

    Jun 13, 2014 at 7:03 pm   rating: 1  small thumbs up

     
  • #19   sam

    It won’t be a communal laundry if it’s the UK. So really they should just ask their neighbour if it’s that much of an issue. That said, I’ve lived in apartments in the UK (and elsewhere) and 9pm is not that late, and washing machines are white noise; as opposed to a party or bass from music.

    Jun 14, 2014 at 12:35 am   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #20   laura lee

    I shared an apartment with two other people once = the female complained to the male that I made too much noise when I brushed my teeth and blew my nose in the morning. Guess I could have had the courtesy to wait until I got to work to do both;)

    Jun 15, 2014 at 4:43 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   kermit

      Complaints like that are why fart noise machines were invented.

      Jun 15, 2014 at 5:18 pm   rating: 3  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #21   assiveProgressive

    My significant other used to make a lot of noise when she brushed her teeth — but the noise was of her tapping the brush on the sink to shake the water out after she brushed her teeth. TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP on the other side of the wall from my bed, 3-4 hours before it was my time to wake up. She eventually was able to break this habit of hers.

    Jun 15, 2014 at 6:48 pm   rating: 2  small thumbs up

     
  • #22   janeleonard

    Its true that people run washers not considering the time and place they live. Its quite annoying to find such people doing this by disturbing other dwellers nearby. People need to change this!!

    Jun 18, 2014 at 1:05 am   rating: 0  small thumbs up

     
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