This little junk mail punk

June 20th, 2015 · 56 comments

My first thought after reading this note: “Hmm, I’m not sure what being a “wannabe hipster” has to do with not picking up your mail.”

Then I read our submitter’s (unapologetic) explanation: “My neighbor left this taped to the mailbox in the lobby due to my tendency to leave coupons that are mailed to me on a small table under our mailboxes.”  The connection: Both can be really fucking obnoxious!

sbiancamento denti Be responsible and throw your junk mail away…in your own trash can. Do you realize that someone has to clean up after you, each and every time you decide to be lazy? Be a responsible adult and clean up after yourself. If you’d like to talk about this more, I’m in apt 3, and I’d love to have a ‘sit down’ with you. Please stop being inconsiderate and pick up ALL your mail. Thank you. Zach, Apt. 3″ href=”″ target=”_blank”>Dear hipster wannabe in apt 5, The lobby is not your personal trash can. Be responsible and throw your junk mail your own trash can. Do you realize that someone has to clean up after you, each and every time you decide to be lazy? Be a responsible adult and clean up after yourself. If you'd like to talk about this more, I'm in apt 3, and I'd love to have a 'sit down' with you. Please stop being inconsiderate and pick up ALL your mail. Thank you. Zach, Apt. 3

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56 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Apt 2

    That’s not p-a because the neighbor signed it. P-a would be if he signed it “everyone else in the building” etc.

    PS. Apt 5 grow up and throw away your shit! Check your entitlement and stop expecting everyone else to take care of you.
    PPS No, you don’t get a trophy for not littering.

    Jun 20, 2015 at 3:10 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   The Elf

      It’s still a PAN (“wannabe hipster?”) and almost as obnoxious as the original littering, but credit to Zach for signing the note and saying where he was so they could talk about it.

      Jun 23, 2015 at 1:47 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.2   NotCanidae

      Now that’s a bit unfair. I personally like coupons, but have too much dignity to dig through trash bins. If a person wants to leave me free milkshakes and discounted dog haircuts, I can’t be angry about that.

      Aug 23, 2015 at 11:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.3   NotCanidae

      Now that’s a bit unfair. I personally like coupons, but have too much dignity to dig through trash bins. If a person wants to leave me free milkshakes and discounted dog haircuts, I can’t be angry about that.

      Aug 23, 2015 at 11:46 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #2   labdude

    5 is “unapologetic” – does he somehow think he’s doing a favor, offering his coupons to others?
    Or is he just being a dick? I’m guessing the latter.

    Team Zach – He not only signed it, he actually offered to *talk* about it, and gave him the info to do so. This is how adults do things.
    On the other hand, I’m inclined to believe Zach would be perfectly justified in collecting 3′s junk mail and wedging his door shut with it. Now *that* would be PA…

    Jun 23, 2015 at 12:09 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   sharon

      I read “sit down” as “if you’re butthurt, and you think you’re hard, come stand up to my face and i’ll pound you into the floor”

      … maybe i shouldn’t live in a stand your ground state any more.

      Jun 24, 2015 at 4:40 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #3   kermit

    Anybody that invites you over to talk about coupons is a freaking weirdo.

    There are people who go nuts collecting coupons, especially if it’s for popular places like McDonald’s, Olive Garden, etc.

    Jun 23, 2015 at 12:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   The Beast Among Us

      What about Corky’s Closets?

      Jun 23, 2015 at 1:37 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.2   kermit

      I have no idea what that is.

      From watching “Murphy Brown”, I can only assume that some person who was really into Corky Sherwood Forest’s wardrobe on the show has bought all the costumes and is selling them there.

      Jun 23, 2015 at 2:19 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.3   Christine

      Maybe it’s a difference in locality but the coupons that get mailed to my house and end up in my mailbox are the ones in envelopes for things like house painters, tick and lawn service, and appliance repair. $50 off your $500 repair isn’t exactly a coupon people fight over. There may be a random one for Ming garden or a free waxing at the spa, but the envelopes usually hit the recycle bin unopened. The good coupons come in the newspaper and flyers. Apt. 5 is a jerk for not taking care of his own mess.

      Jun 24, 2015 at 7:58 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.4   Haterade

      Maybe it’s just a difference in locality as well, but to me tick and lawn service sounds like a strange combination. =/

      Unless it’s the deep rural South… in which case it could be related to the free waxing at the spa?

      /With apologies to deep rural Southerners, many of whom don’t fit the less-than-rosy perspective I got growing up.

      Jun 24, 2015 at 12:30 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.5   Christine

      I’m in CT – proud birthplace of Lyme disease. It’s a bad tick year, but then it’s always a bad tick year. Warm winter? Not cold enough to kill ‘em. Frigid icy blasts for months on end? Our zillion inches of snow served to insulate the little buggers so they didn’t die. So now Lawn Ranger will kill your ticks and fertilize your lawn in one easy stop, with 20% off the first month’s application.

      On a side note, I’m digging the avatar I was assigned. Nice touch.

      Jun 25, 2015 at 7:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.6   The Beast Among Us

      Reminds me of a car I once knew…

      Jun 25, 2015 at 12:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.7   kermit

      I dunno maybe it’s a regional thing, but in my community, the (free) local paper has the flyers for the local grocery, electronics, car and furniture places, whereas the restaurant flyers/coupons show up separately in the mail even if you don’t get the paper.

      The crappy coupons for lawn stuff, porcelain figurines, dry cleaning and whatnot come in a separate envelope that’s put together by one of those coupon distribution companies – I’m guessing those that send annoying old lady representatives to the morning shows to tell you how to save a dime on dish soap or whatever.

      Jun 25, 2015 at 2:17 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #4   The Elf

    I have a friend who not only loves to give me coupons that he isn’t going to use, but will also point out ways I can shop more frugally. He happened to be over one day when I came back from the grocery store and proceeded to point out that THESE things were cheaper at THAT place and THOSE OTHER THINGS were cheaper OVER THERE and I damn near strangled him.

    It costs me money (gas) and time to go to those other places. Or I could just buy it all at one place and save myself some sanity.

    Of course, this was the same person who decided to “educate” me on the most efficient way to load a dishwasher, until I lost it and told him that when he owned a house, he could load his dishwasher in his kitchen any damn way he liked, but since it was my dishwasher in my kitchen in my house with my dishes, I’ll do it my way.

    Then he was upset because I yelled.

    Submitter, throw out your coupons or use them yourself. If someone wants extra coupons, they can ask you for them.

    Jun 23, 2015 at 1:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   Lil'

      Elf, you played the dishwasher thing all wrong. You should act interested, but then keep “misunderstanding” his instructions. “Maybe you should just show me.” Then sit back and let him do the work. Afterwards…”Maybe you can help me with another problem I’m having. I simply cannot get my tub clean enough!”

      Jun 24, 2015 at 10:37 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.2   The Elf

      Missed opportunities! I’m sure there’s a better way to clean the catbox too.

      Jun 24, 2015 at 1:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.3   Lil'

      Boy, you’ve worked up an appetite with all this cleaning. You’d invite him to stay for dinner, but all you have in the freezer is a pot roast and you are notoriously bad at preparing pot roast.

      Jun 24, 2015 at 1:52 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.4   Little Brother bang

      Boy, this touches a nerve.

      I have an older brother (I’m 60) who insists as an article of faith that “no-frills” (no-name generic brand) products are as good or better than the fancy-schmancy brand names.

      Maybe so. I’m no slave to hype and commercialism, but I like what I like. And he’s a real crusader on this subject.

      I try to avoid going shopping with him, but a recent vacation I got trapped into going to a supermarket with him for breakfast items, etc.

      He kept looking at the stuff I put in the cart, then he’d come back with the generic/no-frills brand and ask if I “really knew” whether the kind I picked was better, or if I was just buying it out of habit.

      He really thought he was being tactful, and not even more obnoxious, by trying to get me to discuss and “think about” my shopping habits so I would wise up and load up on the no-frills bargains. He acts like sensible 10-year old Wally Cleaver trying to educate foolish 6-year old Beaver.

      He would actually hold the no-frills version he’d picked up over my cart each time, hoping that I’d give him a nod and authorize the switch. I refused to give him the satisfaction, so he had to settle for preempting me by running ahead and getting no-frills products for the remaining items on our list.

      I would’ve invited your friend to show you how to load the dishwasher… from the inside.

      Jul 9, 2015 at 8:08 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #5   The Beast Among Us

    The lobby is not your personal trash can. It’s a community trash can!

    Jun 23, 2015 at 1:53 pm   rating: 91  small thumbs up

  • #6   the cat

    I also hate to see good coupons go to waste just because they are not for things I use. However, sometimes people need a little help understanding stuff since they don’t read minds. They can mistake a coupon share for a litter pile unless they are told what it is. I suggest to poster something similar to what I have set up on a windowsill in the break room at work. I put out a pretty box with a legible sign on it that says “Coupon Exchange”. I check it weekly and throw out anything that has expired and be sure it stays neat and does not overflow. I have seen people use it – both drop off and pick up- and no one has complained. Easy.

    Jun 23, 2015 at 2:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   Poltergeist

      I think that is a good solution because it is possible the submitter was trying to be “generous” with the coupons.

      …Then again, I can see a problem arising when it comes time to empty the pretty box of old coupons and nobody wants to do it, leading to complete overflow and a never ending stream of PA notes.

      Jun 23, 2015 at 9:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.2   Wrenchly Park

      Just a suggestion, rather than throw out old coupons, see if there’s a USO or MRW center near you that you can send them to. A lot of them collect expired coupons to send to soldiers and their families overseas, where most military commissaries and exchanges accept expired coupons.

      Jul 12, 2015 at 4:24 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #7   Jami


    Litterbugs aren’t cool bugs!

    Jun 23, 2015 at 2:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #8   Kasaba

    We have a plastic storage bin in the entry stairwell to our flats to throw junkmail and previous residents’ mail into. If I’m the person picking up post first, I’ll chuck junk mail addressed to everyone in there. If you want that take out menu to Pete and Poppy’s Ice Cream and Kebab Parlour, it’s in the bin, where garbage should be.

    Jun 23, 2015 at 3:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #9   pooham

    Because of the way I was brought up littering just feels wrong. (Just like not wearing a seat belt while in a car feels wrong, even though I never used to before it became the law.) But isn’t littering less of a problem than it used to be like 40 years ago? I’m thinking of the PSA about littering that had the Indian with a tear rolling down his cheek.

    Jun 23, 2015 at 4:34 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   The Beast Among Us

      You’d be surprised. I see people that will set a fast food bag full of trash on the street while stopped at a stop light, and then just drive off.

      Jun 23, 2015 at 6:30 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.2   EH

      @The Beast Among Us : That’s nothing, I’ve been going down the interstate at 75MPH when someone threw their fast food bag full’o'trash out their window. Almost wrecked.

      Jun 24, 2015 at 1:51 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.3   buni

      Where I live, roadside litter is a major problem. Even when the local recycling center offers 6 cents back instead of 5 in Fridays, people still can’t be bothered to hold on to their cans and bottles (or fast food trash). Last night, I picked up a perfectly good plastic coat hanger! Just need to wash it before hanging it in my closet.

      Jun 24, 2015 at 9:27 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.4   The Beast Among Us

      Shouldn’t have cut him off in the first place, EH.

      Just kidding.

      Jun 24, 2015 at 10:09 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.5   Kasaba

      Once, when I was a kid, we were driving through a game reserve with a field guide, and I (don’t know what I was thinking, because I was taught to not litter) threw a soda can out of the window of our minibus. Or I tried to. The window I thought was open, was in fact closed, and the can bounced against the window with a metallic clang! and landed back in my lap. All eyes turned to me, and I was glaringly reproached. I think one of my siblings dared me to do it, but can’t recall.

      I wouldn’t dream of dropping litter now. A few months ago, an £80 fine was imposed on people caught littering in the neighbourhood where I work. There’s notably less litter around now.

      Jun 25, 2015 at 11:02 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.6   The Beast Among Us

      This is my favorite response to street litterbugs:

      I’m like she is, but I sure wish more of us were, too.

      Jun 25, 2015 at 12:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.7   L

      Our town has garbage cans every 15 feet or so on main street. The post office took out their trashcans and asked people to take their junk mail with them. People just leave it on the red box you put outgoing mail in. You could walk across the street and there’s a garbage can. Two buildings down, there’s a garbage can.

      Recently they put a small box next to the red box again – people still put their junk mail on top of it. How freaking rude.

      My personal favourite was I was walking behind this girl who was eating a sundae from Dairy Queen and she finished it and just threw the empty container on the ground. WHO DOES THAT????

      Jun 26, 2015 at 2:49 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #10   Haterade

    Extremely weird random thought, even for me…. you know what the next fad will be among “direct mail marketers”? Junk mail printed on toilet paper.

    People will pay more attention to it than they do now, and then at least it’ll serve some purpose other than creating self-perpetuating recycled paper.

    Jun 23, 2015 at 5:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   Victoria

      Just imagine. Ads on the toilet paper. If they put a cell phone jammer in there, it practically guarantees the ads will be read.

      Jun 24, 2015 at 1:02 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.2   Haterade

      We should start our own ad firm! How does “Craptive Audience” sound?

      Jun 24, 2015 at 3:00 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.3   pooham

      Love that name Haterade.
      And in fact there are advertisements that hang under a sturdy protective plastic covering inside some toilet stalls I’ve been in.

      Jun 24, 2015 at 5:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #11   AP

    Apt 3 should come live in my building. The mailboxes are tiny so the mailman just leaves all big mail- circulars, ads, magazines, packages, large envelopes- on the table in the hallway. It gets left there until it’s very clear that no one wanted it, say several weeks.

    I support sharing coupons, in general, but he should throw them away after a day or two if they’re not taken. Easy.

    Jun 23, 2015 at 5:29 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #12   Brad

    In my old building(no longer an apartment dweller) we had a recycling bin and a little table underneath our mailboxes. I chucked out the junk mail, left anything with coupons on the table, and took my mail. Our building manager was pretty good about keeping bin overflow to a minimum and the coupons I(and others) left haphazardly on the table current and in order. I always assumed that was an apartment building standard. We had problems with shared laundry facilities and newspaper theft, but that was about it.

    That said, if you don’t have a coupon exchange, clean your shit up. Zach is right to call them out on it. I’d visit apartment 3 for a “sit-down” just to hear what more he could possibly have to say on the matter, and also to find out if he actually wrote that note. That’s pretty girly writing for a “Zach”.

    Jun 23, 2015 at 9:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #13   JoDa

    This is 50/50 for me not knowing more. In my old place we had a situation (that I won’t go in to detail about) with a former resident where her mail (junk included) kept coming to her address. The new resident couldn’t be bothered to sort through it, so she left everything not addressed specifically to her, including ads, on the floor of the hallway. It got so bad I posted my own semi-PA (which is still in that hallway) about disposing of junk mail and leaving things that needed to be “forward or return to sender” in a place where the mail carrier would actually see them and take them. That worked well.

    In my new place, I started our own coupon share in the bulletin board near the mailboxes. I got a coupon I couldn’t use, got a piece of paper, and wrote: “feel free to take and use any coupons posted here, please remove any coupons you post that are not claimed after a week.” It’s worked smashingly well. I have given and received many coupons, and people clean up after themselves with the week deadline…

    Jun 23, 2015 at 10:02 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #14   Raichu

    He signed it. It’s not a PAN.

    Also, team note-writer. Leaving your trash out for someone else to pick up is obnoxious.

    Jun 24, 2015 at 1:00 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #15   rachel

    I’d have a “sit down” with them. I’d explain to them how small their lives are in the grand scheme of things.

    Jun 24, 2015 at 5:46 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   Rattus

      All small things, lives included, accumulate to make larger things. If people didn’t fight back against all those small things, like litter, just imagine the chaotic state of the world. Piles of trash everywhere, chattering in the movie theatre, second-hand smoke in the subway, teeth-sucking coworkers driving you insane. Fight back, I say, and make the world a cleaner, quieter, less teeth-sucking place.

      Jun 25, 2015 at 1:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.2   kermit

      And those that fight back vigorously enough wind up getting ulcers and heart attacks, Rattus.

      Unless stuff like coupon garbage is in your way and actively interferes with you going about your business because you have to move it somewhere else, leave it be, for heaven’s sake. Life is too short for you NOT to pick your battles.

      Besides, it’s not like anybody is going to go out of their way to thank you for mailbox area cleanliness.

      Jun 25, 2015 at 2:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.3   Rattus

      Litter is never physically in my way, and yet I still loathe it. Foot high grass and weeds on someone’s private property are never physically in anyone’s way, and yet some people still loathe it. Beer can wreaths are never physically in anyone’s way, nor are cars on blocks, sprung sofas, and wooden cutouts of old women bending over showing their drawers, and yet…

      I despise those who litter with the same intensity as I despise the chronically late and those who take toddlers to adult movies. Inconsiderate, one and all, and I will make my feelings known. If it aids in a single person giving a bit more thought to their actions, then I, and by extension the world, have won.

      Jun 26, 2015 at 7:39 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.4   Pete

      I never litter. In Australia, we have, every year, “Clean Up Australia Day”, where all the schoolkids and teachers go around their local areas picking up trash. I always enjoyed the day, funnily enough. We lived on a highway and the school was on the highway so there was always lots of Maccas and other garbage like that to pick up.
      Since then, I’ve tried to do my bit for Clean up Australia Day each year.
      HOWEVER, having said that: there is one thing Australians hate more than littering, and that is the busybody, a.k.a the ‘stickybeak’. People who stick their noses into other people’s business. People who are nosy. People who find time to be irritated, annoyed, or despise others “with intensity” for the minor inconveniences they cause are okay – as long as they don’t say anything, or do anything, about their intense feelings.
      Now, if you take a crying baby to a movie and the baby interrupts the movie, that can be annoying, yes.
      If you employ someone who is routinely late, that can be annoying, yes.
      If you find somebody’s yard, or front porch, or driveway, or car aesthetically displeasing because they have taken less care of these areas than you think they should – well, that may be annoying for you.
      Here’s what you should do.
      The guy with the toddler in the cinema ? Talk to him – whisper to him that the child is disrupting the film and you’re unable to pay attention, and could he please take the child outside until the child stops interrupting others ? (If you’re smart, tell the Dad/Mum to give the kid a buck to go buy some lollies from the lobby)

      The chronically late guy – same deal. Just talk to them, seriously.

      The litterbug – again, talk to them.

      When you sit around hyperventilating about how much you despise people – or even writing about how you despise ANYONE “with intensity” – that honestly is unhealthy, because it reflects a developing (or well developed) misanthropy.

      This whole website exists because people are afraid, unwilling or actually don’t want to TALK to other people to correct problems. How hard is that ? To be neighbourly ? To engage other people in communication ?

      There’s this concept called “empathy”: people have reasons why they do things – the toddler in the cinema, maybe he and his wife had planned a date but couldn’t find a babysitter. Maybe the toddler wanted to see the film but sat on a sticky seat. Maybe the guy’s cousin died a week ago, and the movie had some emotional resonance with him, his wife and their child, and they thought the child should see the film for that reason: maybe the child was crying because he missed seeing the dead relative. WHO KNOWS ?

      The chronically late guy: maybe he has social anxiety and is afraid to go to work. Maybe he has multiple sclerosis and has early morning doctors appointments. TALK TO TO THE PERSON.

      Same with the litterbug. Maybe their mind is on other things. Maybe they’re wondering how they’re going to pay for the thouand dollar electricity bill that is already overdue. Maybe they were never taught that littering is bad. Maybe they grew up seeing their parents litter, and they just do it too, without really thinking about it – the same way YOU do a million annoying things, that I can guarantee YOUR neighbours, co-workers, friends and family find immensely irritating. Do they “despise” you “with intensity” ? I sure hope not.

      But honestly – you need to break this cycle of sulking and marinating in your own hatred towards others. Speak to them. You’ll see they’re not so different from you, and that 99 % of the time, they’re willing to change the behaviours you find so irritating.

      Aug 14, 2015 at 10:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #16   Dane Zeller

    Let’s see…on the Rodney King Civility Scale (RKCS) where 1 is “can’t we all just get along” and 10 is getting a beating, where would these guys fall. The contestants: the person who leaves coupons for someone else’s “benefit”, or the one who did not write: “Thanks for the thought, but most people don’t want your coupons, and they become trash. Please don’t leave them behind.”

    Jun 24, 2015 at 9:19 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #17   Dane Zeller

    Let’s see…on the Rodney King Civility Scale (RKCS) where 1 is “can’t we all just get along” and 10 is giving a beating, where would these guys fall? The contestants: the person who leaves coupons for someone else’s “benefit”, or the one who did not write: “Thanks for the thought, but most people don’t want your coupons, and they become trash. Please don’t leave them behind.”

    Jun 24, 2015 at 9:22 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #18   pooham

    Hey Apt 5, We all get the same junk mail so you’re not doing any favors by sharing yours with everyone else. Quit rationalizing your laziness and throw your own trash away.

    Jun 24, 2015 at 11:07 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   The Beast Among Us

      What, you don’t need TWO coupons for fabric softener?

      Jun 24, 2015 at 5:12 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #18.2   Lita bang

      What heathen doesn’t want to stock up to ASSURE the softness of their clothes? Hmph.

      Jun 24, 2015 at 11:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #19   Emily

    Team Zach!

    I live in a large apartment complex, and we get the same kind of junky coupons.

    There’s always some lazy jerk who just throws them on the floor because they don’t feel like carrying them back to their own apartment.

    Submitter wasn’t being helpful. He as being lazy. Helpful would be if he made a box for a “coupon exchange.”


    Jun 25, 2015 at 2:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #20   Mehriheart

    Apt 5 is a dick for not throwing away his junk mail. Maybe he thinks he is being kind by offering his coupons to others but I am certain everyone recieves the same ones.
    Zach is a dick because he can’t be polite. This letter could easily read ‘Dear Apt 5,
    Please throw away your junk mail. If you have any questions I am in Apt 3.

    Best regards,
    Zach apt 3′

    Jul 5, 2015 at 10:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #21   Sadachbia

    When I lived in an apartment building full of hipsters/yuppies and picked up discarded mail off the floor, I used the convenient addresses on each mail piece and deposited stacks of mail outside every apartment door. “Here, you forgot these! You’re welcome!”

    Jul 10, 2015 at 11:40 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #21.1   Pete

      And you’re … proud of this ?

      That is utterly typical passive aggressive behaviour: firstly, you’re spending time and effort to ACTIVELY inconvenience people who were just thoughtless – collecting and depositing “stacks of mail outside every apartment door ? Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? That is an aggressive act.)
      Secondly, your last sentence, with its faux cheeriness, is again, concealed aggression.

      Here’s a tip (and honestly, why do I even need to remind anyone of this ?): next time this happens, KNOCK on the motherf***ing door of the person who has left their discarded mail on the floor.
      When they open the door, say, “Hi there, I am [Insert Your Name Here]. I am from [Insert Your Apartment Number Here]. I have noticed that lots of your mail has been discarded on the floor. This is aesthetically displeasing and also inconvenient for others. Would you mind discarding your mail in a bin, or inside your apartment please ? Just so we can all live harmoniously and in a neat and tidy apartment. By the way, I don’t mean to be a mousy busybody or anything. I was thinking, since we’re all living in a pretty close setting, we should get to know each other sometime. I figure we should get together over a barbeque on the weekend, just for a couple of hours. Lets invite some other people from the building, what do you say?”

      Now, after the other person has said whatever they want to say, you smile politely, respond appropriately and shake their hands. Obviously, you say “by the way, it has been nice meeting you, and I look forward to seeing you at the barbeque on Saturday”. If they said they could not come, obviously, again respond appropriately with something like, “no worries about not coming to the barbeque. I understand folks are busy and not everyone can come. Lets organise something else at some other time, and in the mean time, I’ll see you around. Take care mate. Take care, my neighbour and new friend.” (Okay, you don’t have to add that very last sentence – but if you approach your neighbours with that sentiment, you’ll find yourself happier, your neighbours happier, and you’ll be living in an environment more conducive to positive and enjoyable habitation.)

      Seriously, why treat your neighbours like potential enemies, just because they’ve done a thoughtless act ? They’re not out to get you. They’re not even thinking of you when they leave their mail around – why bring it to their attention in a mean spirited way that (i) achieves only disharmony and (ii) makes both your, and their lives harder ? (Because in the future they’ll be far less likely to comply with your requests, than if you treat them well, as good neighbours.)

      If you’re old enough to type, I honestly should not have to explain this concept to you, unless you have a personality disorder and have trouble understanding why people behave the way they do. If that is the case, then no worries, feel free to ask any further questions on positive social interaction and I will genuinely do my best to answer.

      Aug 14, 2015 at 10:57 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #22   din365

    I cringed when the person says “somebody has to clean up after you”, because that’s what the lazy bastard is counting on.

    Jul 16, 2016 at 1:42 pm   rating: 0  small thumbs up