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Yeah, I read the comment. Several times. I’m not mad at Wade, and I don’t want to fight with him, but I did feel squashed and trivialized by the comment. I don’t believe he consciously meant to squash and trivialize me, but the effect was there, nonetheless, so I shut the hell up.
I’m glad you got some sleep, CG.
Feb 1, 2010 at 6:56 am
Comment #146200
glo, he just said the philosophers’ circle was in full swing…
anyway, I’ll let you two elegantly duke it out. you’re both good at it.
oi! Happy birthday! I didn’t realise. Two aquarius, huh? Isn’t ghostie Aquarius, too?
I think I caught your crankiness, ‘glo. I am very, very, very cranky.
Oh, and you’re up early for a day off.
Hey, CG.
Feb 1, 2010 at 6:48 am
Comment #146199
Good morning, Glo.
I got up early, that means I finally slept at night. Finally!
Feb 1, 2010 at 6:42 am
Comment #146198
You didn’t expect that your comment would have an effect on anyone’s desire to continue to participate in the ongoing discussion, Wade?
Huh.
Feb 1, 2010 at 6:33 am
Comment #146197
Ooh, you got up earlier than me and beat me to it, CG!
Happy Birthday oi!
Feb 1, 2010 at 6:29 am
Comment #146196
Happy Birthday, oi! \o/
Feb 1, 2010 at 5:56 am
Comment #146195
wakes up groggy – but only because I had an afternoon nap, and was reading an anne tyler. noggin feels a lot better. hey, gg and oi. still around?
Feb 1, 2010 at 3:02 am
Comment #146194
I am glad you liked it GG. that song is my favorite. Singer is late Hemant Kumar.
And belated happy birthday.
Feb 1, 2010 at 2:23 am
Comment #146193
That’s so beautiful CB. It’s beautiful because it’s perfectly rational. We do not have total control over life becasue we are interconnect to thousands of humans, that sounds totally plausible. Your theory makes me hopeful that I will find out purpose of life one day and not just mine. but like all humankind. I can not digest the fact/theory we are here out of pure coincident.
Feb 1, 2010 at 2:21 am
Comment #146192
And Sinéad O’Connor. My sister met her once, introduced by a mutual friend, in Dublin. They had a brief conversation together:
SO: “You have a piece of bog paper on your shoe”
GG’s S: “Thanks”
Feb 1, 2010 at 1:58 am
Comment #146191
I believe there is another dimension, or other dimensions beyond ours. I don’t believe it involves an intelligent higher power or being.
Celeste’s energy, life-force if you will, is awaiting mine in that other dimension, and some day we will be reunited as one. That’s heaven enough for me.
I can see how some can need that intelligent higher being directing all things for solace sake, but personally, I don’t.
I believe that most, but not all of my fate is in my own hands. I make the choices that will for the most part direct my life, but the choices made by others will affect the conditions which will both affect my life and inform my decisions about how best to steer my life.
Some say such things are so complex that a Master must be directing them.
I say such interconnectedness and interdependency is far too complex a system to be directly controlled.
You see, while what countless others do affects what I do, so what I do affects countless others.
I am at the mercy of the actions of all, and all are equally at the mercy of my actions.
That makes us all Gods to each other.
Feb 1, 2010 at 1:52 am
Comment #146190
*picks herself up off floor, checks how many pages there are to back read, and wonders just how long she has been passed out for, after partying all weekend*
Thanks for the birthday greetings! Another great link, oi!
So I’ve missed pizza, child rearing and religion, as well as some sexy page turns. Anything else we covered that I should know about?
Feb 1, 2010 at 1:45 am
Comment #146189
quick glance and it’s about religion and parenting. Don’t know much about latter because I feel that I am still a kid myself.
Ah! religion. I am born Hindu and I am proud to be Hindu. I would not say that I am religious in traditional sense though. Hinduism is such a wide philosophy that you could be die hard conservative or agnostic or atheist or somewhere in between and that somewhere in between has more than one layer.
I do believe that there is one supreme being/energy/entity that is more powerful than us, humans. As I am not in total control my life(fate, destiny) I could bow to that guy. (somebody seems to have more control on my life than I do and that guy could be you know that supreme being)and Hinduism has conveniently defined that entity as god or gods if you will, and I have known them for whole my life so I bow to them. I don’t have a problem calling that guy Allah or Jesus/God either. I am concerned with his true self than a name.
When I am facing difficult time I have seen that believing that there is order to universe and praying to somebody greater (in power/abilities) helps a lot. You can keep your head calm and able and get through it. So you can say that I am religious for purely selfish reasons. I am religious but not a temple goer or not even a daily paying type. just when in trouble or when some fortune happens to me and I know that’s not in proportion with my hard work or abilities. I try to be grateful.
Also I never stick to any ritual part of Hinduism. Neither I have a problem doing any ritual if that will please my mom.
one of the doctrine says without his will a leaf too does not move. and he is the Subject, object and the process itself. We are mere puppets. That’s like my solace in that case i am not responsible for my failure nor success. That does not mean I won’t try. I will but If I fail I don”t have to kill myself.
of course if he is a god than he does not need our imploring. As I said before praying is for you, your head to be at right place not for him. that’s how I would summarize my religious beliefs.
Feb 1, 2010 at 1:29 am
Comment #146188
Fish is my answer to it all, CB and Jet.
*fish* fish* fish*
I just got hit in the temple by a pine tree. That is actually a true little tidbit. Rode my bicycle to school to pick up a tiresome bit of bureaucracy. Student was also riding her bicycle. We don’t get on that well. I rode ahead, took a different path. At least I didn’t fall off. My head hurts a bit though. No blood. Those branches are damn thick. The world is out to get me today. I might take over glo’s stirring up trouble role in a short while, but nah…
fish* fish* fish*
Maybe it’s a good excuse not to go swimming. Kind of don’t feel like it today. But my have I put on weight. I think I should put some ice on my noggin, too.
Feb 1, 2010 at 1:07 am
Comment #146187
rose, I just found it a bit cute how people with small children “know so much” about raising children.
A couple of them are in for some real surprises!
The ones who think that their kids are just the sweetest little things to walk the earth especially. Or course their kids never complain, they never set any boundaries for them.
If you let a child have what ever makers them happy,is there any wonder you have a happy child?
Unfortunately, life will soon hit these little ones with “NO”, and they will get a rude awakening.
Some of those parents will tell their kids that “NO” means “NO”, others will go and fight the authorities to get their child what S/he wants.
Mom, I played soccer all season and didn’t get a trophy.
Why not?
They said only the winners and the runner-up team get trophies.
THAT’S NOT FAIR!! ALL OF THE CHILDREN PLAYED, SO THEY ALL DESERVE TROPHIES!!
Who cares if their kid EARNED a trophy by virtue of actually playing winning soccer?
As long as they GET a trophy?
Mustn’t crush their self-esteem by calling a loser a loser.
Part of good sportsmanship is learning how to lose with grace…and go home empty-handed.
Feb 1, 2010 at 12:26 am
Comment #146186
Wow tink.
I can’t really weigh in on the parenting thing. Taking notes though.
Feb 1, 2010 at 12:18 am
Comment #146185
Sounds interesting, and I admire your pragmatism, tinks.
CB, I avoided that thread as if Jaws was swimming in its very waters
CG are you still out there feeling kinda blue?
Wade, I think glo was frying with her super deadpan, but I’m not sure.
Feb 1, 2010 at 12:07 am
Comment #146184
Hope I was diplomatic enough on the child-rearing thread.
You know how I can get when I feel strongly about something.
I just have an opinion based on success when applied at an early age to go on, and I really don’t much believe most of this new shit works.
Children need discipline and they respect parents who enforce some.
No need to overdo it, but you can’t fail to do it either.
Indulge your 3 and 4 year-old, expect to have an out-of-control 14 or 15 year-old.
You can’t have an 8 or 9 year-old whom you allow to make decisions for themselves of any consequence, and expect them to listen to you when they are 16 or 17.
They don’t respect your opinion. You haven’t shaped them. They’ve shaped themselves for as far back as they can remember.
If mom and dad want to watch Jaws, they should watch it after they put their 3 year-old to bed, preferably about 7:30 pm for a child that age. That’s my opinion, not State Law. When I was in elementary school in the mid-sixties, our report cards had recommended bed time/age printed on them as a guide for parents to use. Now, I see little kids running around at 11 to midnight. WTF is that? Good parenting? NIMHO.
There is some truth to the old saying “This hurts me more than it hurts you.”, but it’s our job as parents to take the hurt now so our children don’t get hurt worse later.
Raise ‘em up, train ‘em up and let ‘em go off to do what they’re going to do.
My test has always been whether or not I could look at myself in the mirror and say I did what I thought was best for my children, and I can do that.
Jan 31, 2010 at 11:53 pm
Comment #146183
Can’t read my poker face.
Athesis ftw.
Want a confused religious history? Try mine: G-ma was a Pentecostal preacher, helped build my first church at 4. Dad is a self professed Jesus freak/ Charismatic who had me reading Mike Warnke’s ‘Satan Seller’ at 8. Mom became a Republican/Baptist about the same time I converted to Mormonism, then I dropped out of that and joined Mom as a Baptist – I was a bad Baptist. Then I got into Eastern religions (tantric sex, mmm) only to end up a skeptical agnostic/atheist married to a devout crazy person who claims to be Baptist but attends nowhere and espouses Methodist dogma.
If anyone asks, tell ‘em I’m a Deist – I live in the Bible Belt, where non-believers go missing during barbeque season.
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Comment #146182
*reads glo’s last post. reads own. puzzles til puzzler is sore.*
i was just making an observation. really.
*sigh*
ok good night for reals
and good night pouncies for teh rilla ♥
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:32 pm
Comment #146181
‘rilla ♥
*fish*
going home.
*fish on a bicycle*
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Comment #146180
Wow…I wanted to post and it got eaten…
I miss every one.
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Comment #146179
Is that goodnight as in you’re going to bed, or to wade, ‘glo? Be philosophical all you like. My answer, at present, is fish.
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Comment #146178
Okay, CG. Takes me forever to leave, you know? Why do my crap comments get the most thumbs? You know… way back on the some post that was centred, I was going to use the ‘justified’ joke which and before Neeners used, and which I set up… 65 votes she got. I didn’t use it cos’ I thought it was too obvious… ah well. You can go for the quick and easy, but is it in the end satiating? Think I’ll just settle the soil into a nice pillow around me under this rock I have decided to crawl under/emerge from…
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Comment #146177
I just couldn’t think of anything non-philosophical to say.
Good night.
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:11 pm
Comment #146176
See you soon, Rose.
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Comment #146175
Heh, sad to hear it, CG. diverted study plans and such? You need oi or WotV or Wade for lady ga ga discussions, I think.
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Comment #146174
Oh, wade! You know you are the draw of the kerhq! Well, you and ‘glo, and the ragtag crew of everyone else…
I’m going to go home. Feeling incredibly cranky again, and I can do nothing at home as well as here. Or something, alternatively.
CG, I’ll check in when I get there (I only live 5 minutes away).
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:05 pm
Comment #146173
Rose, I don’t know about the rest of Brazil, but I’m feeling a little melancholic today.
BTW, WTF is Lady Gaga wearing?!
Oh, good night, Wade.
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Comment #146172
ok, i’ll be quiet now.
night (((cifs)))
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:58 pm
Comment #146171
Still kind of floating and working on flickr instead of inputting marks. Hey, CG ♥ As for ‘glo and Jet, I don’t know where they got to. Maybe glo’s visualisations worked (excuse all the neologisms in this post). I don’t really know much any more about kind of popular stuff, wade, though I know who the foo fighters and bon jovi are. How’s Sunday in Brazil, CG?
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Comment #146170
now the wheels come down.
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Comment #146169
lol
now watching the dave matthews band while ff sing the pretender
mind ’splode!
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Comment #146168
why does the head of the grammys feel like he has to yammer on about not downloading music for free.
i understand his point, but he comes across as such a tool.
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Comment #146167
hey (((CG)))
bon jovi was singing living on a prayer, while i listened to all my life
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Comment #146166
Hey (((CIFs))).
Uh, religon and music are the topics?
Wade, I like Bon Jovi and I love Foo Fighters, what’s that song?
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Comment #146165
oh look! i killed the thread.
yay?
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Comment #146164
oh oh oh
rap collaboration! this is the one with the snl song “im on a boat” nominated not ironically
awww, didn’t win. too bad.
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Comment #146163
i am amusing myself by watching the grammys while listening to my ipod
bon jovi singing foo fighters ftw
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Comment #146162
Just winding you up, Jet.
Got some spare yarn, ‘glo?
Yes, I could not be that kind of godparent, glo. Or no, or whatever expression of agreement I should use.
Lunch is finished.
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Comment #146161
oh. no. this is fine. just making an observation.
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Comment #146160
What other activity do you have in mind, Wade?
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Comment #146159
If you care to know way more about my religious beliefs than I can possibly imagine you would, jet, you can read about it on my blog.
I could be that kind of godparent, rose, but that’s not what my sister was asking for. She was looking for the stand at the baptismal font and make the sign of the cross and listen to how the sins of Eve are washed away and take the kid to Mass every Sunday kind of god parent. I did say I would be happy to be named guardian in her will if the need should arise.
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Comment #146158
my my
saturday night philosophers circle is in full swing
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Comment #146157
I was raised Anglican by my mother. Always had trouble with religion and couldn’t resolve it in my head. When I was 18 I read a lot about religion and a book that influenced the direction of my thought greatly was Julian Jaynes ‘The origin of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind’. Dawkins is another influence of mine. So I don’t know what type of atheist I am exactly.
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Comment #146156
Time for lunch! Still no work done. You guys working on the main, or just wandered off? Gotta get a short fuse/ pmt kind of joke worked into a response to Paloman (sp)… haven’t got there yet.
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Comment #146155
Seems we’re all going to hell, ‘glo.
Hawk floating about outside. Very beautiful.
Welcome to the fold, Jet. Now, just which kind of atheist are you? We’ve got the garden variety, the kind where there is only space for 500,000 of you, and the kind that promises you a million virgins within your lifetime. Only problem is that you have to take care of the kids.
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Comment #146154
My mum was a childcare worker, too, ‘glo, and I often accompanied her. First job was in a woman’s refuge though. Or one of the jobs. The parent didn’t do too much complaining. After-school care, too, I think most parents were okay, but the kids were a lot older. I know, there are ridiculous attitudes out there. I think I am going to aim for the absurd. Perhaps. I’m at work, but haven’t done anything yet.
99% I’m with you on the conversion thing, and have spoken with others about it. I don’t really judge people for converting for convenience sake, though, but if you do, don’t go the whole hog, lawdy, you’re insufferable…
I am godkids of my friend’s son. If she has any belief it is Wiccan. The reason for it was so that her step-son’s mother was kind of brought into the family by being appointed godmother for the older boy, I think. Now, both of my godparents died, one when I was about 4. The other lived a lot longer – so I’ve only ever thought of it as a nice kind of acknowledgment that you are important to the family. There is no way I would take it seriously enough to follow up and encourage faith. I think I’m a pretty lousy godmother, compared to some, actually.
I think my family is more bemused by my mother’s faith, so none of us really give each other a hard time about having or not having the same.
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Comment #146153
Hey CIF’s!
Very sore today. Walked 46k over the weekend and slept for 13 hours last night…
Glo, Rose. I am an athiest. I could be with someone who was agnostic but not someone who was religious. My father and stepmother are going to a certain church to ensure that my younger sister can go to a private school where she will get the extra attention she needs (she has down syndrome and the public school system tends to group them into one group despite the varying levels of the sydrome). My father is a bordeline athiest/agnostic and takes the pragmatic approach. I find it hard to compromise my beliefs. Maybe I would be more pragmatic in my fathers position. I think the issue for me in a relationship would be if/when parenting comes into it and discussing religion with your children. Although not being a parent I can only speculate.
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Comment #146152
just took a nap/watched the first half of the pro bowl
not sure which induced more yawns
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Comment #146151
Ah, well. I always knew I was going to hell.
Jan 31, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Comment #146150
I am thinking I would not be able to marry someone if the marriage was contingent upon me converting, rose. I would not be able to take part in the ceremony knowing I didn’t believe in it. I am kind of stick-up-the-ass about it, actually.
I refused to be a godparent to Nephew The Elder. It would be hypocritical of me to promise to raise him in the faith should his parents die. I think my sister was hurt, but I just couldn’t do it.
Also, I think I shocked the hell out of my sister when she realized I was completely serious about no longer believing.
Jan 31, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Comment #146149
I’ve been wondering if CB’s computer isn’t giving him trouble. Hope not.
Hoo boy, I really should stop on the Main. Maybe it is the moon, rose.
More likely it’s just that my sister is a childcare worker, and man, you would not believe some of the parent attitudes she has to put up with.
She had one parent drop her two-year-old off every day with pancakes from McDonalds for breakfast. With a Coke.
Jan 31, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Comment #146148
Why do I press the backspace button and lose my entries? Continuously? :frustrated:
Agree, ‘glo, unless the argument is compelling. Depending on which country I lived in, there might be pragmatic and practical benefits, but as I say, the argument would have to be compelling.
The petrol/gas was a snap. Last time I went was fairly recent, so I remembered what to do. Now the weather will probably remain warm, though. It’s meant to be freezing today, it definitely isn’t.
More Co2 (it would be, wouldn’t it?) for my lungs and the environment! At least I stay warm.
Off to work, I’ll check back in when I get there. Happy evenings or sweet dreams if you have both wandered off by the time I do. Wade, I know you’ve left the house. ♥
Hey, is CB seeing his lady-friend on weekends now? What’s taking up your time, CB?
Jan 31, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Comment #146147
i just nodded off
think i will take a little nap and then have some dinner
have fun procuring your petrol, rose
(((glorose)))
Jan 31, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Comment #146146
Absolutely I would NOT convert for someone. I would feel dishonest and dishonorable. I absolutely would be willing to be married to someone of faith, but it would have to be on terms that he would respect my lack of faith as I would respect his.
That’s not to say no way would I ever convert, because who knows what I will believe in five, ten, twenty years’ time? I do know, however, that I have to be true to my own spiritual self, and that has nothing to do with anyone else.
Jan 31, 2010 at 5:42 pm
Comment #146145
‘glo, I guess, too, that you could not be more errant than me. Miles away from family, and probably intending to keep it that way
Jan 31, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Comment #146144
Okay, going to get the jerry cans and get to the petrol station, and fill them with kerosene before my nerve fails me (I always forget how to use the machine. No, no ditzy moment. It is my kanji comprehension fail again).
Jan 31, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Comment #146143
Agree with your statement, ‘glo. It would have given your grandpa a challenge to get you back into the fold
I think my convert aunt thinks I am as zealous as she is. We had a wee falling out over stupid attachments she sent me last year (stupid in my opinion). The major thing is that they (she and my uncle) used to be intelligent people! How condescending do I sound? No more than usual, right, or less? I felt so guilty I sent her a gift to make up for it.
I really like her as a person. I try to keep out of our differing religious views. So much so that she probably doesn’t know they are differing, though I would not outright lie to her.
Changing, or veering, the topic slightly. She converted when she married my uncle and dove into Catholicism with gusto. Prior to that I think her background was Methodist, her field was Science.
Would you convert for someone? I couldn’t do it for solely practical reasons (depending on the situation). I would have to believe. So I guess I admired her for that, but I kind of wish she had done it for practical reasons.
My grandmother turned into a witch as the dementia took hold. I adored her before that time, though my mother did not.
Jan 31, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Comment #146142
See, Ikea write their instructions in Swedish, I guess, get them translated into Mandarin, then get that Mandarin translated into English. I’m sure.
Jan 31, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Comment #146141
No, Target, Wade.
Actually, it’s not hard at all to understand. It’s hard to kneel on the floor and do it.
I am sure there are many many wonderful grandparents out there, rose, and I, being a traditionalist, am actually very in favor of treating one’s elders with respect. But I don’t think one has to (a) infantilize one’s elders, essentially patting them on the head, saying how cute they are, and humor them by lying to them or (b) obey their every whim.
Of my four grandparents, one grandfather died before I was born; one grandmother, whom I adored, died when I was 9; one grandmother saw me twice a year although she lived half-an-hour from me, but was a nice enough lady whom I was always polite to but didn’t feel any bond with; and one grandfather was a complicated man whose company I enjoyed and whose flaws affected the entire family in a very negative way.
They were all individuals, no more or less capable of love just because they were grandparents than any other person is. I loved and respected them in accordance to how they treated me, I guess. My grandfather did actively disprove of me declaring I was not a Catholic, but it honestly never ever occurred to me that I should lie just to make him happy.
Jan 31, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Comment #146140
Hi, Wglode (even distribution of letters there) -
Hey, Massive Attack are coming to Perth. In Kings Park! Jeez, if I were/was going home, I definitely see them. The last time I saw them, which I think was the last time they played in Perth, my friend had found out she was pregnant, and fainted three times. All that progesterone stirring. We went to eat. Missed the concert. The promoters thought we were on drugs.
Okay – put out the rubbish… get some breakfast… do the dishes…
I just heard a Neil Young song I liked. It was like a Raymond Carver story.
Stand by for some links.
Jan 31, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Comment #146139
oh hai (((rose)))
Jan 31, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Comment #146138
I saw a funny Ikea joke the other day. Shame I don’t recall it. Maybe it ws to do with the I-Pad.
Jan 31, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Comment #146137
did you get it at ikea, glo?
having trouble getting the Årsköld to fit into the Daggkulmud?
Jan 31, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Comment #146136
Full moon affecting you much, ‘glo?
Is that as insulting as comparing Eric Clapton to Pete Townshend?
Well – mothers are generally invalidated by modern English-speaking, western society. Teachers and pre-school teachers too. In Australia the check and double check and so on that teachers have to do is staggering. A friend of mine said that a student at their school won a certificate for making her own sandwiches, which the teachers taught her to do, because apparently the parents sent her to work with a pack of chips or less each day. I think both parents were addicts.
ah… I am not venturing onto that thread at all. Having lived with a 3 year old for an extended period of time a few times, they’re kind of impossible. At the same time, rules can be made, though not necessarily adhered to.
Oh, what’s the 3rd group that is invalidated? Old people. Heh.
You know, ‘glo, though I don’t want to live in the society, because you are only happy if you are happy with the status quo in the society, there were some lovely relationships between family and their parents and grandparents in both Oman and Japan, in Oman with mothers particularly, and in Japan with grandparents, due to a built in kind of attitude that you do not insult your mother, and in Japan that you respect your grandparents. They usually live with you, too.
Now, that is hard, because, of course, most of the work of care falls on the woman of the family, and Japan does not have the infrastructure in place to really look after its aging population. I know that there are cranky older people and people that you do not automatically love, but having some idea of respect for elders, whether parents or grandparents, ingrained in society, does seem to mean that most people are validated, though maybe only within their roles.
Both those societies are homogeneous, for the main part, too – so I think that adds to it, too. I think, maybe since Spock and the boomers and adoption of psychology and so on, generally speaking, our society is a lot more of a total ‘Me’ society. It doesn’t even seem to extend to the nuclear family any more, unless you are a parent.
I prefer this freedom, but there are downsides to it, as well. I think capitalism (and religion) also fit nicely with one another in fostering a dissatisfaction which can only be solved by also constantly searching for something and shucking off relationships that might have once traditionally existed.
There are horrible people out there. No matter the age. Yes, it should be acknowledged. Rose’s Monday homily. And she wasn’t even going to get on the comp. before work…
Jan 31, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Comment #146135
I am assembling a cabinet for the baffroom. I cannot brain. I haz the dumb.
Jan 31, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Comment #146134
heh
oh. i did my civic duty today and shoveled snow the plow missed, so i don’t have to deal with an ice sheet leaving my court tomorrow.
as a result, i haz a tired.
Jan 31, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Comment #146133
But it’s all just pretend, right?
Jan 31, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Comment #146132
i was freaked out when i first saw jaws… in a theater as a 17 year old when it first came out!
the scariest part? when they were diving on that rich guys yacht and his head popped out of the hole in the hull.
still gives me the willies.
Jan 31, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Comment #146131
lol, I see it’s not just me.
That’s what got me going last night. Mystic eye or whatever saying, “Oh, it’s so horrible letting your kids see the news” while at the same time saying her kid just has to watch Star Wars.
No, your kid does NOT have to watch Star Wars if your kid is not of appropriate age to watch Star Wars. ARGH!
I wish ghosty were here. She’s good with this kind of arguing.
Jan 31, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Comment #146130
lol.
You know, in all seriousness, there’s an age where kids do get frightened by animals. I don’t get why you’d want to take the chance that your kid will be terrified by seeing Jaws. I first saw it when I was maybe 10 and it freaked me out. And this is a 3 or 4 year old? And then, what seems kind of worse to me, is a desensitization to killing a living creature. That can’t be good at that age, either. Seems problematic all the way around, seems easier just to avoid it altogether and have your kid watch Sesame Street. Or is it just me?
Jan 31, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Comment #146129
children at that age are not able to distinguish real and pretend on tv… bloviating on the main notwithstanding
after 9/11 preschoolers would panic every time video of the towers falling came on tv, because they thought it was happening over and over again.
Jan 31, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Comment #146128
I was all prepared to be on her side because the info kerry gave in the intro seemed to indicate that yeah, she was aware of the problem and was trying to work on it, and yeah, it was pretty lame of the childcare worker to put the note in there. But then she comes in and says, yeah, my kid’s crazy for Jaws *shrug lol*. Well, um, you’re the parent. You decide what the kid watches on tv. Is it really that hard?
Jan 31, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Comment #146127
yep, glo. they are quite certain, aren’t they?
i think a lot of today’s preschool moms are insecure, and any questioning of their parenting puts them on the defensive.
but there is no defense against jaws.
Jan 31, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Comment #146126
OK, I was maybe a little mean, but really, no one was saying her kid was a monster. Just, if you don’t want your kid getting in trouble by playing rough, maybe you shouldn’t be letting him watch Jaws over and over.
What do I know, though? I’ve never given birth, so I didn’t get those extra IQ points you apparently get when the head passes the cervix.
Jan 31, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Comment #146125
preschool moms and preschool teachers.
PA gold!
Jan 31, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Comment #146124
heehee
bye (((oi)))
i’m going to run to the store myself, before the sun goes down and roads refreeze.
Jan 31, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Comment #146123
er wade!
I wish I could sit and talk to you but this outfit is not very comfortable so will go and hide [actually I am leaving for shopping]
Jan 31, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Comment #146122
well, i’m back from lun
nice outfit, oi!
Jan 31, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Comment #146121
GG for you. this song is my absolute favorite sitting alone on the peak. When I was a toddler my dad used to sing this t me. this sng has such a sentimental value for me I have never seen the video. I feel like if I look at video I won’t get the full effect of song! weird! I know.
Jan 31, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Comment #146120
oh everybody left for lunch?
I am going shoppin! I will have to save this pages as looks like there is considerable interesting stuff in there.
♥ ((((gloWaderose))))
hmmm hour to go will clean up this Q. Do i dare going in condom fern?
ooh slutty witch dress. Nobody is here let’s try this.
Jan 31, 2010 at 11:51 am
Comment #146119
*sigh*
OK Wade. See you later.
Jan 31, 2010 at 11:01 am
Comment #146118
i’m gonna step away from the computer for a bit and eat some lunch, (((glo)))
stay warm! ♥
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:49 am
Comment #146117
“waitstaff of a vegan-only restaurant”
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:43 am
Comment #146116
Hmm. Could use more veganism.
LOL, Cthulhu FTW.
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:35 am
Comment #146115
oh yes, the clouds went away late last night. and i have the temps to prove it
good day to send the preschoolers out to play. it will toughen them up against the cold cruel world of religious zealots who leave the waitstaff a gospel tract instead of a tip.
better?
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:08 am
Comment #146114
Weird!
Have you got sunshine now?
(fine, if we have to talk about the weather instead of really important things like religion and childrearing and how much to tip your server, I guess that’s how it’s going to be)
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:03 am
Comment #146113
i still want you to be careful with the online dating stuff, glo
there are a lot of predators out there!
Jan 31, 2010 at 10:01 am
Comment #146112
*segue*
the snow today has the consistency of sand. i was able to use my push broom to get most of it off the deck. around 6-7″.
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:58 am
Comment #146111
It’d be like selling my soul to the devil to give up my athesism.
Wait.
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:52 am
Comment #146110
only if you promise to give up your athesis-ism, dearie.
♥
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:48 am
Comment #146109
Send me a $20 check and I’ll think about it while it clears the bank.
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:39 am
Comment #146108
forgive my sweet, doddering self, glo
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:38 am
Comment #146107
Uh, duh. Old =/= wise.
Geeze! Pay attention to the conversation.
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:37 am
Comment #146106
nah, just old.
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:29 am
Comment #146105
You are wise, my friend.
Jan 31, 2010 at 9:14 am
Comment #146104
people who lead unexamined lives tend to think their experience (especially if it is reinforced by popular cultere) is normative, and can’t/won’t understand another’s experience that is different from theirs. so they set about trying to “fix” the other person, through persuasion or coercion.
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:54 am
Comment #146103
I think what’s getting under my skin is the attitude reminds me of the people who think you have to love your parents, just because they’re your parents. No, just because you love your parents (or grandparents) doesn’t mean everyone else in the world does. And when you act shocked to find someone who maybe doesn’t, you put all sorts of societal guilt on someone who’s maybe struggled with the issue all along.
Whew, glo. Project much?
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:38 am
Comment #146102
Wade said what I said, but ever so much more succinctly. I’ll get there some day, grasshopper.
♥
Oh, that’s a cocktail, isn’t it? What are some other names? Sex on legs? 10 headed arachnid? self-sexing amoeba?
Jan 31, 2010 at 8:27 am
Comment #146101
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