I judge you as fat

May 21st, 2012 · 220 comments

Eerac and I met up in Barcelona last week, where we climbed lots and lots of stairs. The one time we didn’t, of course, the Metro station totally called us out.


Eric and I are still climbing stairs (now in Poland and Portugal, respectively), where we haven’t yet seen any similar signs. Back in the States, however, Christine in L.A. spotted this rather harsh version in the elevator of a 7-story university residence hall.

I judge you as FAT when you take the elevator from the lobby to floors 2 and 3* Take the STAIRS! You NEED it! *Unless you're injured or carrying heavy shit or in a wheelchair.

related: Buffalo, please use the elevator

FILED UNDER: elevator · hey fatty · Los Angeles · most popular notes of 2012 · way harsh

220 responses so far ↓

  • #1   Pandy

    If the shoe fits…

    May 21, 2012 at 2:02 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   Phil

      I’m not fat, but if I had the shoe, I’d be smacking a lot of people with it for the hate and prejudice in these comments.

      May 21, 2012 at 5:42 pm   rating: 91  small thumbs up

    • #1.2   Poltergeist

      I’d make it my life’s mission to find the individual who wrote such a note so that I could crush them under the immense weight of my fat ass.

      …what was that? You can’t breathe? Here, let me blow some gas into your empty lungs.

      May 22, 2012 at 2:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.3   Dr_Know

      Why do people feel the need to police others choices so much? I they want to take the freaking elevator they can, if they don’t what ever. Everyone has their own reasons.

      Do the people calling these people out ever really think that one flight of stairs is going to make a major impact on a person’s physical fitness?

      May 22, 2012 at 11:21 pm   rating: 91  small thumbs up

    • #1.4   The Elf

      “Because people are assholes.”


      “No, they just like being assholes.”

      You asked.

      May 23, 2012 at 6:17 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.5   Jennifer

      Oh, we recently adopted our first Basement Cat (black cat for non Cheezburger fans) and while so far he’s mostly failing in his duties (he has yet to acquire any minions, he’s extremely friendly and tubby and adorable, and he gets along with all the other cats) he JUST TODAY began to show his dark side. He was sitting in the shadows on the stairs earlier today and, sure enough, I almost tripped over him. So I think his Basement Cat tendencies must finally be emerging. I’m sure the minions will be here soon.

      May 23, 2012 at 1:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.6   Noelegy

      Congratulations! Black cats are awesome, and not the least bit evil.

      May 23, 2012 at 3:27 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.7   JaneDoe

      I used to live in a second story apartment, and I always took the stairs unless I was carrying tons of heavy stuff. That doesn’t make this notewriter any less of an ass.

      May 23, 2012 at 3:52 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.8   The Elf

      Not evil per se, but my black cat has an unusually high badness level for someone of his size. We need to work on that.

      May 24, 2012 at 6:50 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.9   Amber

      We have both a basement cat and a ceiling cat. Basement cat was very sweet until we got ceiling cat; now she takes every opportunity to attack him and make him bleed. And he is a true ceiling cat. He never fights back, just tries to avoid confrontation.

      May 24, 2012 at 11:07 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.10   clumber

      1.9 – We have a Basement and a Ceiling cat too… and a Torti we call the Purgatory cat. Ceiling cat is the youngest and he absolutely TAUNTS Basement and Purgatory cat. I would never claim Basement cat isn’t evil.. she very much is… but she earned it. As a young kitten she was abandoned on a busy road and run over by a truck. She wasn’t even old enough to be weaned yet, and welcome to the suck of the world. The other day, Basement and Purgatory carefully conspired and beat the ever-loving-shit out of Ceiling cat. It worries me greatly that they have the power to join forces… but Ceiling cat totally had it coming. He’s probably going to have a permanent and noticeable scar on his nose, now. Did he learn? Of course not.

      Jun 7, 2012 at 12:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #2   Lil'

    I think it would make more sense to direct overweight people to the stairs…well, that is if this weren’t completely out of line.

    May 21, 2012 at 2:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #3   TsuKata

    Having people exercise in a way that is damaging is not helping their health.

    Stairs are the leading cause of personal injury in the home in the US. The only reason they’re not the leading cause of injury in the office in the US is because of the ADA and the subsequent prevalence of elevators. In Europe, where elevators are less common, they’re the leading cause of personal injury in both home and office.

    Stairs are not ergonomic. They’re designed for people of average height, and they’re easier/better the taller you are. For people shorter than average, it’s actually flexing the knee and surrounding muscles in a way that is unusual and unnatural, beyond the 90 degree angle which is considered safe for step-based exercise.

    So, can I take the stairs to floor 2? Absolutely. Do I choose to when another option is available? Never. There’s just no reason to do so. It’d be like riding a bike that wasn’t designed for me. There are safer ways to get exercise.

    May 21, 2012 at 2:40 pm   rating: 91  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   SeeYouInTea

      I’m short (5’3), and have short legs and I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve missed a step and tripped because I didn’t stretch my leg out far enough.

      May 21, 2012 at 2:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.2   Serenity

      Ok, I know some short people, I’m talking in the range you guys are claiming, and I have NEVER heard them talk/complain about the “dangers of staircases”. Sounds like excuses to me, just sayin’. I don’t give a crap if you’re fat or not, that’s your problem. But the stairs are dangerous bc I’m short? c’mon now

      May 21, 2012 at 6:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.3   SeeYouInTea

      Yea, I’m not fat, I just hate stairs. I’m not saying they’re super dangerous, but sometimes my legs aren’t long enough. I, for one, don’t go around telling people that I’m stair-challenged, so maybe that’s why you have never heard it before. How embarrassing is it to say “Hey, I’m Soandso and I’m too short to climb stairs properly.”

      May 21, 2012 at 6:47 pm   rating: 91  small thumbs up

    • #3.4   coute

      Broke my damn foot in several places when I tripped on the stairs in my house. Cost me thousands in doctor bills. I cannot express how much I hate stairs. I have a three story house also, (not including attic) so I have more than one flight to deal with. I am not fat but srsly, f*ck stairs.

      May 21, 2012 at 11:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.5   Serenity

      haha, good point SeeYou. I guess I’m just one of those people who will say anything, even if it is embarrassing to me. I always poke fun at myself, out loud and to everyone, so I forget not everyone is that way. Trust me, if I was short and had problems with stairs because of it, I would tell ev-er-y-one. Everyone who knows me knows I sleepwalk and do crazy things in the process, and that I get so terrified when a lizard gets in the house that I had to have a special block put on the bottom of the door to keep them out because I run outside screaming for help when they get in. Outside I find them perfectly acceptable and even cute tho. needless to say, people think I’m a little crazy. Funny, but crazy ;p Oh, and also, I have been known to fall UP the stairs in my enthusiastic race to the top. I’ll never learn.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:46 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.6   a-Arialist

      I’m five foot tall and have managed perfectly well on stairs my entire life, and the only person I know who’s ever injured themself on stairs fell down them drunk (which I blame on drunkenness, not stairs). This comment is ridiculous.

      May 22, 2012 at 3:08 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.7   The Elf

      No, black cats who sleep on the dark stairs and wait for their half-awake, not-yet-caffienated owners to step on them are the leading cause of injury in the home.

      Well, my injury in my home.

      May 22, 2012 at 6:49 am   rating: 91  small thumbs up

    • #3.8   The Elf

      I always take the stairs. I like to live dangerously.

      May 22, 2012 at 6:52 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.9   FeRD bang

      Falling down the stairs is punishment for not paying the fuck attention when you’re on them. (Or because they’re outdoors and it’s inclement weather, but elevators won’t help you there.) The idea that they’re “dangerous” because we’ve societally developed a habit of wandering through the environment like distracted pinballs is a load of horse shit. (Strategically placed one step down from the top of a long flight of stairs. LOOK OUT!)

      May 22, 2012 at 4:47 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.10   FunChefChick bang

      Yep. I’m 5’4″ on a good day and live on a 3rd floor condo. I’ve tumbled on the stairs badly twice, and less badly a few more. I am a former athlete and now I take an elevator whenever one is offered. It turns out misjudging steps/losing balance is one of those ‘perks’ of my disability. Or heck, people can just be klutzy sometimes.

      When I have my service dog with me people tend to glare less about short elevator rides. When I don’t have him with me and people glare because I am fat? Well, they can fuck themselves right off, is what. They don’t know the excruciating pain I am in all the time and they don’t need to. NEITHER do they need to judge me or anyone else for taking a goddamn elevator.

      May 22, 2012 at 10:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.11   Noelegy

      @coute, I lived in a house with stairs for 22 years. As a kid, I ran up and down those stairs, and never once fell or hurt myself. The year after I moved out, I stepped off the bottom step, put my foot down wrong, and twisted it in such a way that a tendon was pulled away from the bone. I felt like an idiot. An idiot in pain.

      May 23, 2012 at 3:29 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.12   Kate

      @TsuKata, I’m going to dispute your claim based only on personal experience. I’m 6′ tall and have size 11 feet. A lot of staircases seem to have steps that are too friggin’ small for my clown feet and as a result, I often get wobbly or trip while walking up stairs. This could be because I’m utterly unco, but I’m going to blame tiny steps and huge feet.

      May 24, 2012 at 6:48 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.13   Steph

      I am not saying what you are talking about isn’t true. I don’t know enough about that. But I am 5 foot even and I have never had a problem with stairs. Besides the one time I was in middle school and tried to talk to a boy I liked walking backwards and fell up the stairs. But irrelevant.

      May 27, 2012 at 1:34 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.14   Jane

      You point to evidence that proves the even larger point that there are a number of reasons why someone would choose the elevator over the stairs.

      As someone who chooses to take the elevator because of my hidden chronic illness (although I appear to be fit), I judge this note-writer an ignorant bitch.

      Oct 22, 2012 at 10:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #4   Brian

    Sometimes injured people take the escalator or elevator to the 2nd floor. It’s not always laziness.

    May 21, 2012 at 2:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.1   Gwan

      Did you miss the bit where it said “except if you’re injured”?

      May 22, 2012 at 3:59 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #4.2   clumber

      Yeah but in the spirit of PAN, why the fuck should anyone have to explain they are injured to avoid shotgun random judgement?

      //back injury that is currently acting healed, but I know better. Anyhow, I probably could take the stairs now but i have such vivid awful memories of the times I found myself stuck between floors on the stairs, unable to cope with the pain of up or down…. Fuck it. The elevator instead.

      //yes i spent too much time denying i was injured and persisted doing things I had no business even trying to do with that injury. “Rub some dirt on it, you pussy, and walk it off” was my motto from childhood. And I am sure some of that was not wanting to be judged a pussy, even by stupid people.

      Jun 7, 2012 at 1:01 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #5   Monster

    Except some of us have bad ankles/legs/ect. from prior damage that while we are not technically ‘Injured’ going up the stairs puts stress on said old injuries and causes them to hurt rather badly, and lock up.

    May 21, 2012 at 2:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #6   QueenLizard

    The sign at the college seems to hinge on the notion that being fat is the same as being horrible or disgusting or some other negative idea. It shows nothing but childishness and bigotry. People who think this sort of thing is humorous or appropriate need to grow up and realise just how shallow they are.

    May 21, 2012 at 3:01 pm   rating: 91  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   Cake

      Being fat IS disgusting and horrible. Get a damn clue.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.2   Phil

      Let me ask you, genius……lots of skinny people take the escalator to go up, just like the disgusting and horrible people you’re referring to. Shouldn’t they be fat, too?
      I’ll bet the only fat thing about you is your head.

      May 21, 2012 at 7:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.3   QueenLizard

      Oh Cake – showing our own bigotry much? Or do you just believe everything you read and conform to whatever stereotype the media tells you to? *sigh* Shallow people are so easily led.

      But you know what people really are disgusting and horrible? Bigots. Look in the damn mirror.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:29 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.4   Pie

      OK Queen, do you assert that being overweight is a positive thing?

      May 22, 2012 at 7:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.5   Poltergeist

      It’s not a positive thing health-wise. That doesn’t mean you get to go around calling overweight people disgusting and horrible. It’s their body, their business, you don’t know every detail about their situation, and regardless, they can be perfectly lovely people leading very fulfilling lives.

      May 23, 2012 at 4:26 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.6   Dr_Know

      Being overweight (using the much loathed BMI – 25-29) is actually positive health-wise (decreased mortality) – Canadian study found it was better than being “normal” weight (BMI 20-25).

      BMI and mortality: results from a national longitudinal study of Canadian adults.
      Orpana HM, Berthelot JM, Kaplan MS, Feeny DH, McFarland B, Ross NA. (2010)

      Not that it actually matters because a lot of things are worse for your health than being overweight and most people don’t give a shit about those things..

      May 23, 2012 at 6:39 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.7   Poltergeist

      Wow, so Cake’s comment got 25 thumbs up? To tell you the truth, I’m a little bit disappointed. Surely there are more than 25 assholes using the internet.

      May 27, 2012 at 7:11 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #7   21skulls

    I’m wondering what kind of person takes time out of their day to direct disgust at someone they won’t even confront face to face. Good luck in the real world, honeybuns.

    May 21, 2012 at 3:37 pm   rating: 91  small thumbs up

    • #7.1   H for Toy

      My guess is that this was posted by a former fat person. Nothing is worse than a former chubby who’s discovered the Jesus of weigh loss.

      May 22, 2012 at 7:35 am   rating: 91  small thumbs up

    • #7.2   21skulls

      Ah, yes, the “skinnier than thou” attitude.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:41 pm   rating: 91  small thumbs up

    • #7.3   Anna

      This is a sign in a dorm. So, I’m guessing that there are 1 or 2 elevators and there are 10 or so stories. Dorms are grouped by school year, so people probably all head to/from classes at the same time, so there’s probably quite a wait for the elevator. (And the elevator is probably stopping on every floor.)

      In my grad school, there was a similar situation (with 1,000 students all trying to get upstairs/downstairs at the same time.) The building also had 20 floors, so it got kind of obnoxious at times.

      That doesn’t make me team letter-writer.

      People have hidden disabilities (including poor balance which leads to tendency to fall), people wear shoes that make stairs difficult, and some stairways are just really sketchy.

      I can understand kvetching about it to a friend, but a sign? Get over yourself.

      May 23, 2012 at 3:29 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #8   This or That

    Wow. There is some serious acrimony in this sign. Bitter, party of one, your table is now available.

    May 21, 2012 at 3:55 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #9   Gecko Hunter

    I judge you an illiterate twit for taping half-assed signs in the elevator.*

    *Unless you’re seven years old.

    May 21, 2012 at 4:19 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   Jami

      Most 7 year olds write better than that.

      May 21, 2012 at 4:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.2   The White Clouds of Opium bang

      How was gecko season this year?

      May 21, 2012 at 7:00 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.3   Pie

      Perhaps that was the author’s motivation: envy for those with more complete asses. ;)

      May 22, 2012 at 7:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #10   Hane

    Hells yeah to all of the above, says this short, klutzy grandmother with the bum knee. I’ve fallen down my share of stairs. Not fun.

    May 21, 2012 at 4:31 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #11   Spooky

    What does the idiot do when someone who’s in elite-athlete shape takes the elevator? Because they do, you know….even just to the second floor sometimes.

    And I’m not fat, but have Spondylolisthesis, an incredibly painful back condition, especially when coupled with fibromyalgia. I look healthy as a horse, if that horse is grimacing in pain as it tries to climb lots of stairs while its back is acting up. Just try judging me, you twat.

    May 21, 2012 at 5:00 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   FunChefChick bang

      My friend! Spondyloarthropathy here! And yes, at a glance I look ‘normal’ (and fat). Then watch me try to take a step and wince, and move slowly, and sometimes even stumble. I wish I could impose the pain of my (our) disabilities on the judgy people for like 24 hours every time they glare or say something stupid. “Oh, am I offending you by USING THE ELEVATOR FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE? [BEEP] Oh, does everything on your body hurt now? Good luck getting through your day NOW, asshat! ” What I wouldn’t give for that superpower .. .

      May 22, 2012 at 10:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.2   Spooky

      Howdy friend!

      Gotta ask; service dog for that….or is there more to it? Maybe I should be smart and look up your particular form before I ask, but I’ve taken my ambien, and soon won’t be good for socializing, so wanted to reply.

      Take care, and take the effin elevator!

      May 22, 2012 at 11:23 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.3   FunChefChick bang

      Yep, I have a mobility-assist service dog to help me shuffle along on the very bad days. He’s also great for navigating crowds and such. While we are talking about people being jerks, by the way, one never notices how badly people crowd each other or cut each other off until having a service animal along. People step right in front of him – while we are IN MOTION for pete’s sake – and we sometimes have to jolt to a hard stop to avoid a collision, and 99% they don’t bother to acknowledge him/us. Bother.

      My particular dx is ‘Serionegative Undifferentiated Spondyloarthropathy’ and Fibromyalgia. And assorted other auto-immune funtimes like skin problems and such. It’s a party every day! :-)

      May 23, 2012 at 12:14 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.4   Noelegy

      Heh. I get dirty looks from cell phone talkers all the time when I dare to use the stairwells for their intended purpose.

      May 23, 2012 at 3:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.5   anti spooky

      Fibromyalgia is a made up disease.

      May 25, 2012 at 3:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.6   Spooky

      Oh fuck off you other twat.

      May 25, 2012 at 11:13 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.7   Jami

      @FCC – My mom’s handicapped due to spinal stenosis & surgery for cysts inside her spinal cord. They had to cut part of her vertebra so her spine isn’t attached to her tailbone anymore and 95% of the time in public she has to be in a wheelchair. People treat us just like they treat you. (I push mom’s chair, she refuses to get a scooter because she fears she’ll never leave it to walk even short distances if she does.)

      They cut in front of us, walk slow on purpose, and make snide remarks about how mom “wouldn’t be in that chair if she wasn’t fat and lazy.”

      One time a couple actually threw things at her legs to see if she could move them.

      I freaking hate humanity sometimes. Just because a person is handicapped doesn’t make them less than human.

      May 27, 2012 at 11:50 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.8   clumber

      11.7 Surely it isn’t illegal wherever you live to carry a cattle prod and liven up the lives of those sort of TwatWhistles? Or a tazer?

      Jun 7, 2012 at 1:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.9   Jane

      Anti Spooky: Sorry to have to be the one to break the news, but…

      Harry Potter: Not Real
      Sparkly Vampires: Not Real
      Fibromyalgia: Real

      Try not to drink too much of the vodka you’re going to steal from your parents’ liquor cabinet to console yourself. It’s not good for a 12-year-old.

      Oct 22, 2012 at 10:59 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #12   Mooserepellant

    Okay, judge me. Then tell me why the fuck I should care.

    May 21, 2012 at 5:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #13   malibu_linda

    I judge the signs sexist. The fatty figure looks male.

    May 21, 2012 at 5:56 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #13.1   Caiman

      There’s no such thing as sexism against men. Discrimination? Sure. Rudeness? Sure. Sexism? No.

      May 24, 2012 at 9:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #13.2   The Elf

      …. Are you saying that sexism can only be, by definition, against women?

      May 25, 2012 at 7:53 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #13.3   Jami

      That is the stupiest thing I ever heard, Caiman. I know LOADS of women who are sexiest against men. They treat men worse then men ever treated women.

      May 27, 2012 at 11:52 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #13.4   butt

      She’s right, just like by the sociological definition one cannot be “racist” against white people (or any majority group). Instead it’s considered “prejudice”.

      May 27, 2012 at 2:08 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #13.5   Chris Miller

      Really, Jami? Really? Do they consistently pay men less for the same work? Do they deny them reproductive healthcare? Do they refuse them promotions because they have children and therefore can’t handle responsibility at work? Do they threaten them with rape whenever the men dare to disagree with them? Do they *actually* rape them? Do they tell them they deserved being raped because they went out alone at night, had a few drinks or went to a friend’s place expecting not to be assaulted? Do they put men in jail for making false accusations when the men report being raped, despite enormous evidence that it actually happened? Do they “smack them around” and leave them with massive injuries? Do they murder them? Do they forcibly institutionalise them and treat them with electroshock therapy for completely sane behaviour like being angry or not fitting social norms? Do they sell them into marriage with drunk, abusive women twice or three times their age?

      What’s that, they don’t? Maybe you should reconsider your bullshit statements then.

      Jul 18, 2012 at 2:26 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #14   Annie

    I’m fat, not chubby, but as my doctor calls it morbidly obese. I have been overweight pretty much my whole life. I have also been on almost every diet ever invented, often for years at a time. I have also been on many exercise plans. My parents tried everything there was never any junk food in our house. I have even had surgery to get a lap-band (which was a total failure.) When I was in college I always took the stairs. I took the stairs even when I had sprained ankles. I don’t take the stairs anymore, I can’t, the arthritis and pain from other injuries is too bad. The thing I want to ask is what did I ever do to any of you? I have been called names and ridiculed as long as I can remember, but I don’t call other people names. I spent years working for charitable organizations, and I try to be as considerate to others as possible. Why shouldn’t I take the elevator or escalator without ridicule? How does this injure you?

    May 21, 2012 at 5:59 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   aquapt

      So, let’s see, quick case study… who’s disgusting and horrible? Annie, who struggles with a challenge she didn’t ask for, and who puts her energy into helping other people? Or “Cake,” who derives his/her brittle self-esteem from being skinnier than Annie, and who feels his/her low BMI constitutes a blank check to put his/her energy into being a judgmental asshole? Hmmm…

      May 22, 2012 at 4:40 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.2   FeRD bang

      False dichotomy, sorry.

      May 22, 2012 at 4:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.3   Eulalie

      Nothing, you’ve done nothing wrong! Our society’s ridiculous obsession with the way other people’s bodies happen to be is a sickness. We hairless monkeys come in all shapes and sizes–there’s nothing at all wrong with that.

      May 22, 2012 at 8:52 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.4   The Elf

      And varying levels of hairiness. There are some “hairless” monkeys out there with a fine, full pelt. NTTAWTT.

      May 23, 2012 at 2:57 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.5   Jami

      Have you been tested for Poly Cystic Ovary Syndrome? It can and does cause women to be fat to obese and it can be really hard to lose weight if you have it.

      It’s just a thought. If you haven’t it might be worth looking into. Especially if you happen to have any doctors who are like Cake, saying you’re only fat because “you’re lazy and an over eater.” (My mom’s friend had several doctors like that who wouldn’t help her. Turns out she was fat cause she had a tumor on her thyroid.)

      And because PCOS leads to increased chances of other health problems like certain types of cancer if you know you have it you can always take preventive messures to help the world have your awesome self around for a longer time.

      May 27, 2012 at 11:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.6   PJ_Humperdink

      The first one.

      May 27, 2012 at 3:26 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #15   The White Clouds of Opium bang

    I think I’m going to file this one under Buzzkill.

    May 21, 2012 at 6:58 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #16   vesta44

    I’m fat and I take the elevator instead of stairs every time. It’s also no one’s business WHY I take the elevator, nor do I need to justify WHY I take the elevator instead of the stairs. Judge all you want, I could care less – I don’t know you and I don’t want to know judgmental douchecanoes like you. Just be aware that what goes around comes around……………

    May 21, 2012 at 9:10 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #17   weaselby

    Hahaha. I stayed in a similar hall one summer while I was a counselor for a summer camp. It IS obnoxious to keep having the elevator stop at the lower floors when you have to go all the way to the top, especially if it’s an old, slower-than-crap elevator.

    May 21, 2012 at 10:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   April Q

      Oh damn all these people for not realizing YOU had somewhere more important to be. Peons.

      May 22, 2012 at 2:37 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #17.2   FeRD bang

      Well, no, April… I kinda feel like you’ve got that backwards. It’s more a matter of, why couldn’t they be a little more “needs of the many” about it.

      I live in NYC, the Poster Child for insufficient elevator capacity. Pick any point on the island of Manhattan below 125 Street (and not in Central Park), and I guarantee within a ~4 block radius there’s at least one ginormous, sprawling 10-story building that’s served by a whole two rickety, old, poorly-maintained elevators. During busy periods, when lots of people are moving around, those elevators are slammed. With bad luck/timing, you can end up waiting down in the lobby for several minutes, while the line of people waiting with you backs up until it stretches out of the lobby — and exceeds the capacity of a single one of those two elevator cars.

      In that sort of situation (or one even remotely close to it), I actually do consider it rude to take the elevator one floor. At least, if you’re an able-bodied person who could take the stairs, but doesn’t purely out of laziness — either physical, or, (worse) mental. Personally, especially in underserved buildings, I try to avoid taking the elevators down ANY distance, to keep them free for people who genuinely do need them. Bouncing down even 5 or 6 floors is really no big deal, can’t possibly be bad for my health, and as an added bonus is usually quicker than taking the elevator. And, unless it’s one of those moronic buildings where stair access is restricted, I’d prefer to just walk up, if I’m only going up one floor.

      There are people who need the elevators, either because they’re traveling up or down long distances, or because of personal mobility issues or the like. My sense of entitlement to not have to trudge stairs shouldn’t trump that.

      May 23, 2012 at 1:34 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #17.3   Rio

      Many disabilities are invisible. If someone’s taking it one floor, and they “look” healthy to you, please remember that they may still have a problem you can’t see. And it’s rude/none of your business to ask them why they are taking the stairs.

      There are many times when, due to my muscles spasming, it’s just as hard to go down stairs as go up them. If you’re walking down a flight of stairs and suddenly your thigh muscles seize up mid-step, it’s pretty fricken dangerous.

      Jun 6, 2012 at 7:18 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #18   Leonna

    Ya know, I see both sides of the story. I have an ankle that never healed properly after a break and on rainy or cold days, it hurts so bad that I have issues walking. However, if I’m fine, I will take the stairs, 90% of the time, because it IS the healthier option. It may be the more “dangerous” option, according to someone’s post above mine, but it is better for my body, overall. Those people that will take the elevator one floor or will insist on talking the elevator or escalator down (c’mon now, down is so much easier than up!) are just being ridiculously lazy.

    May 21, 2012 at 10:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #18.1   Sorcha

      The point is, what business is it of yours or anyone else’s?

      May 21, 2012 at 11:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #18.2   fff

      Good for you, but I didn’t realize the entire world was in the exact same situation as you. “Oh, I like to take the stairs even if my ankle hurts, so every other person ever should too, no matter what pain they’re in, no matter if they hate stairs, no matter if they just don’t want to because EVERYONE IS EXACTLY LIKE ME”

      May 22, 2012 at 7:27 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #18.3   twhit

      I can walk up stairs fine, but going down kills the knee I sprained in my 20s. So I’m being ridiculously lazy because I don’t want my knee to hurt for hours (days if I land just right) after walking down stairs? Which will then keep me from walking up stairs as long as it’s sore.

      fff makes a great point, not everybody is exactly like everybody else. Think before you speak people.

      May 22, 2012 at 5:47 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #19   ladyneeva

    I’m claustrophobic and escalators make me motion sick. So unless I absolutely have to, I take the stairs every time.

    Still fat. Obese actually.

    My husband and I always park at the back of the lot, because it’s quicker to park and walk to the door than it is to circle endlessly waiting for a spot close in to open up.

    Still fat.

    We go hiking, biking, or swimming for at least two hours at a time a minimum of five days a week when possible, or if the weather is bad we go walk around the mall for three or so hours.

    Still fat.

    I do a 30 gallon water change on my aquarium every week, which involves carrying 10 gallon buckets of water (80lbs about) over 500 feet out to the back yard to water my garden with them, and after that’s been done three times filling the same buckets at the back yard hose and carrying those back to the tank. Pretty good workout actually.

    Still fat.

    All these things mean that I’m just as fit as my average weight husband by all *actual* measures of health. You know, silly things like blood tests and the like. Not just some uneducated boob looking at me and deciding that since I killed his boner, it must mean I’m sick and about to drop dead any second.

    May 21, 2012 at 10:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.1   Adriana

      I love this post. “Killed his boner” might be just about the greatest line ever.

      A little known secret among us fatties – well, I’m not fat anymore, just lost 150+ pounds, but I was for most of my life – is that physical activity doesn’t always translate to thinness. Sure, exercise makes a person fitter and healthier, but I never lost any weight that way. I really think some people believe we can just jog our way to being hot, but let me tell you, years of that never did anything for me.

      I also hate stairs. I am very active, I walk several miles every single day, but stairs just… suck. I don’t know what it is, but they really piss me off, so I avoid taking them as much as possible. Honestly, I hate going down stairs more than going up them because I’ve almost fallen down stairs about a billion times. I’m better at climbing stairs than I was, but I don’t like that, and if that makes me a bad person, I can live with that.

      May 21, 2012 at 11:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.2   April Q

      Really… and it’s different for different people what could make them lose weight. I also spend hours a day walking around for my job and rarely lose any weight… just gain more pain, lol

      Also, I want to point out my parents are both retired Army, and my dad was in longer than my mom. Both are still very active, and they walk and jog regularly. Neither are skinny like they were at twenty year olds….

      May 22, 2012 at 2:29 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.3   Halla

      ladyneeva, you rule. :-)

      May 22, 2012 at 3:38 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.4   twhit

      Ladyneeva, you are my favorite person of the day!

      May 22, 2012 at 5:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.5   doctorbass

      Sorry ladyneeva, but unfortunately BMI and abdominal girth ARE some of those ‘silly measures’ of health that doctors look at to predict long-term risk.

      Did you know:
      - a BMI over 40 decreases your life expectancy by 10 years
      - 95% of people whose BMIs reach 40, will never get below that again
      - carrying extra weight around the middle is a huge risk factor for metabolic disease such as impaired glucose tolerance or diabetes
      - weight is probably the single most important factor in lower limb arthritis (more wear and tear on the hips, knees and ankles)

      It’s great that you take all those measures to stay fit, and indeed you probably are healthier than many people of your size. However obesity, particularly central obesity, is still a mega risk factor in itself.

      My three points of (unsolicited, I know) advice are:
      1. Make sure you are in calorie deficit – eat less than you burn. Don’t use your increased activity as an excuse to eat more.
      2. Make sure the calories you consume are ‘good calories’. Studies have shown that out of two groups of people who eat the same exact quantity of calories daily, the group that consumes ‘healthier’ calories will lose more weight. 500 calories of cheeseburger or coke ARE worse than 500 calories of lean meat, or vegetable soup. And the healthier ones are less calorie-dense, so you can eat more of them!
      3. Make sure there isn’t another reason for your obesity. Have you been to your family doctor? They can do blood tests to make sure your hormones are all in balance – especially thyroid hormones, which are responsible for regulating your metabolism.

      May 22, 2012 at 7:08 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.6   FunChefChick bang

      This comment is for ‘doctorbass’ actually. Since we’re apparently giving unsolicited advice here, I have three points for you:

      1. Shut your piehole, asshat.
      2. This is not a forum to chide people about their health and make assumptions about their knowledge about their health.
      3. See #1.

      REALLY. Giving unsolicited dietary advice to strangers on PASSIVEAGGRESSIVE.COM?!!! The irony . . . it burns!

      May 22, 2012 at 10:51 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.7   Dr_Know

      Ugh BMI…such a stupid measure.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.8   The Elf

      I know. It lists my husband as obese and me as normal, yet I’m the one with weight-related health problems. He’s not even close to obese; he’s one of those broad shouldered muscular body types, the kind that everyone calls when they have to move because they can manage a huge sleeper sofa up three flights of stairs. And despite my “normal” BMI, I definitely need to lose a few.

      BMI should be a starting point, a quick and easy glance for red flags. It should not be the end of analysis. When professional athletes are listed as “obese”, that should be a sign that something is out of whack.

      May 23, 2012 at 6:29 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.9   Adriana

      Dr. Bass, stomach weight isn’t a risk factor for metabolic disorder. Rather, stomach weight is more of a sign of a pre-existing metabolic disorder.

      Also, the reason “good calories” (whatever that means) are more effective for weight loss than “bad calories” should be the first clue that calories are bullshit. If it’s just energy in versus energy out, then it shouldn’t matter. But oh wait, maybe dieting is a lot more complicated than that. I stopped counting calories a long time ago and I lost a lot of weight doing it.

      May 23, 2012 at 10:10 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.10   Rio

      There are many “risk factors” for health problems. Doesn’t mean one causes the other, just that they are correlated.

      That said, my doctor would rather I be fat and happy than go through the hell of disordered eating again.

      Jun 6, 2012 at 7:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #19.11   Chris Miller

      BMI was never supposed to be an individual measure in the first place. It was to track trends in populations. Using it on a single person is inaccurate and potentially dangerous because you’re using an arbitrary measurement that doesn’t give you any actually useful information but makes you think it does.

      I love the blog http://fathealth.wordpress.com. Full of stories where fat prejudice in the medical profession caused long term harm thanks to doctors obsessed with the “EAT LESS EXERCISE MORE!” road to skinniness – as I recall there’s also one story of a woman who was rapidly losing weight and later died of cancer, and the poster couldn’t stop wondering if it could have been caught sooner if people hadn’t just assumed that losing weight was always a good thing.

      Jul 18, 2012 at 2:35 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #20   Upstairs/Downstairs

    People who love climbing stairs are never the ones who are desperately trying to wheeze quietly at the top in their business clothes for 10 minutes while mopping their brow with their sleeves so they don’t look like a junior high kid late to fifth period after running the mile in PE. Elevator, please! See you at the top, suckas!

    May 21, 2012 at 11:07 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   a-Arialist

      If I couldn’t manage to climb two or three flights of stairs without wheezing and sweating, I’d be pretty worried about my health.

      And I’m not a skinny minnie, either, I’m pretty chubby. But being chubby doesn’t mean you can’t be fit, or at least not so unfit you can’t even manage a few flights of stairs

      May 22, 2012 at 3:20 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #20.2   sweatybetty

      I don’t have a car and walk everywhere, as well as going to the gym regularly (I also live on the 4th floor with no elevator, so I have no choice but to take the stairs at least once a day). But embarrassingly, I have a tendency to break out into a sweat as soon as I *stop* any form of mild exercise. So I’ll be fine walking up those stairs, and then step into a meeting room and beads of sweat will appear all over my face. Pretty embarrassing for a woman… So I’ll take the stairs, but I’d rather do the lift if I know I’m going to be interacting with people right away

      May 22, 2012 at 4:05 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #20.3   erylin

      some of us wheeze because we have (gasp! shock and display!) ASTHMA. had it before i got fat too.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:35 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #20.4   Dr_Know

      Actually people who are fit sweat more easily than those who are less fit (i.e. sweat more and earlier).

      May 22, 2012 at 11:48 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #20.5   Rio

      And asthma can vary in severity from day to day. If I’ve had a recent exposure to one of my more severe allergens, I’ll wheeze for a couple of days without even exerting myself–even after taking allergy medication and asthma inhalers. I HAVE to take it easy during those times, or I’d end up in the hospital or worse.

      Jun 6, 2012 at 7:23 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #21   havingfitz

    I used to work at a snack bar in city hall, where one of my jobs was filling vending machines in the basement. One day I was on the elevator with my cart full of soda cases and candy, and one of our esteemed council members got on. He was apparently upset that he had to wait for the elevator and demanded to know why I couldn’t ‘walk to the other floor’. Well, for one thing, getting all of the junk food down the steps would have been awkward. For another, it would have denied me the chance to tell everyone I knew just what an ass this guy was and cost him votes in the next election. After which, only one of us still had a job at city hall…but at least he didn’t have to be frustrated waiting for that elevator any longer.

    May 21, 2012 at 11:17 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #22   ziblue

    Agreed with those who say it’s no one’s business why a person opts for an elevator. I often get vertigo on stairs, so I will avoid them if possible. Escalators are often worse. You might think I look lazy, but I’d rather not inconvenience everyone behind me on that staircase when I’m having to move slowly while clinging to the handrail.

    May 21, 2012 at 11:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #22.1   AshesVonDust

      *In the vertigo club as well*
      Going downstairs is the worst! I start to shake, etc. Egh! Hell!

      Jun 28, 2012 at 3:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #23   For_Healing_Only

    I seriously hate when you have to use the elevator and there are too many people already crammed in there. At our office you can only have 10 people in the elevator at once.
    Now this is average sized people, and if there are 9 average people in there and a really fat person gets on the elevator, the damn thing won’t start. This usually breaks into an arguement about who should get out and usually the fat person refuses to get and so around 4 averages have to get out for a single plus sized person to stay (there is also a weight limit for the elevator).

    Due to this I will always take the stairs now, even if it is 26 flights (going down is much faster than going up), as I am sick of the excuses people come up with to avoid taking them (The best one was a fat lady from 5th saying her coffee would be cold by the time she comes back as it would take her over 10 minutes)

    May 21, 2012 at 11:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #23.1   color me impressed

      Really? About 4 average-sized people have to get out instead of one plus-sized person? Gosh, there must be lots of 600-pound people in your office. Do you work for a sumo wrestling association? Because I wouldn’t argue with sumo wrestlers about the elevator; I’d just wait.

      May 22, 2012 at 12:48 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #23.2   Poltergeist

      Ever stop to think that maybe it was your fat head that pushed the elevator over its weight limit?

      May 22, 2012 at 1:58 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #23.3   April Q

      Well, I have good news for you. THIS fat chick won’t be weighing down your elevator because I’d rather walk than be ANYWHERE near such a judgmental twat…

      May 22, 2012 at 2:25 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #23.4   sweatybetty

      Wow, I have a hard time believing you run into so many people, regardless of their weight, who feel comfortable squeezing into a crowded elevator at the last minute and then refusing to get off in the midst of an argument about the elevator not starting due to overloading. I suppose it’s their incredibly thick skins making them overweight?

      May 22, 2012 at 4:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #23.5   Lil'

      Nice try troll.

      May 22, 2012 at 8:23 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #23.6   kermit

      Ya know, it’s entirely possible to have elevators of different sizes and weight capacities. At my alma mater, there were/are old buildings where you couldn’t fit more than 4-5 “normal sized” people in the elevator because it was small. There’s also service elevators that could probably carry more than twice the number of people a regular elevator can.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:35 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #23.7   huhwhat

      What’s your point? No matter what the capacity of an elevator, no 4 to 5 average weight people should make up for 1 plus sized person. The average woman weighs 140~160 and the average man 170~190*. So, this guy is basically accusing the plus sized elevator patrons in his building of being 620~700 pounds, assuming 2 women and 2 men per elevator. He’s either lying or the Guinness Book of World Records should be alerted.

      *Statistics from 2004, people are probably taller and heavier now.

      May 26, 2012 at 9:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #24   April Q

    Sadly, as a chubby lady, I’m always aware that when I take the elevator or escalator that people are only taking notice of that lazy, fat person instead of taking a moment to consider the fact that I have lupus and pretty bad arthritis…

    Worse is the fact that there are people who actually give people reason to think fat people are just lazy… at work and at other stores, I constantly see people using the scooters the store provides then just getting up and walking around randomly, proving they have no real disability that requires they use the scooters. We were just commenting on this the other day after witnessing such an incident. I said, I may be fatter than the woman that just walked out to her car after using the scooter, but I still walk my fat butt around the store and the woman that was at the register laughed and agreed, because she was on the chubby side as well.

    May 22, 2012 at 2:21 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #24.1   Steph

      Good job showing your insensitivity. For all you know, they are capable of walking for short periods of time but cannot traverse the whole Walmart without the scooter.

      May 22, 2012 at 6:58 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #24.2   Halla

      April Q, how do you know that all the people you see don’t have similar problems to you? You are sad about being judged but are judging them on their appearance. Please don’t fall into that same trap! :-)

      [edited to correct name, forgot the Q - sorry!]

      May 22, 2012 at 9:03 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #24.3   Pit Pat

      I suppose you would have said the same about me if you’d seen me using a wheelchair at the mall, and then walking out to the car my husband pulled up to the curb. Of course, you wouldn’t have known that I had had surgery on both feet recently and was still healing.

      It must be exhausting being perfect.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #24.4   The Elf

      Oh it is! Sometimes I’m so tired from all this amazing perfection that is me that I need to take the elevator instead of the stairs.

      May 23, 2012 at 2:58 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #24.5   Chris Miller

      Sometimes I use a walking stick. Sometimes I don’t. And I always get uncomfortable when I see someone I know because of people like you who assume there is no middle ground between being completely able-bodied and unable to walk at all. Maybe those people could walk around the store without a scooter… but then they wouldn’t be able to do anything at all for the next three days while they recovered from the effort. You don’t know their medical status. And incidentally, it’s often easier to walk normally immediately after a rest, so someone who gets up out of a chair or scooter might well not look disabled – but ten minutes later, it can be a whole different story.

      Jul 18, 2012 at 2:40 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #25   a-Arialist

    Too bloody right! I’m on the eighth floor and it takes flipping *forever* to get to the ground because of all the lazy sods who get in the lift to go up or down one floor. Walk, damnit! Anything three floors or less, I walk, four floors and I get the lift.

    Having said that, I have nothing against fat people (being fairly hefty myself), but laziness winds me up.

    May 22, 2012 at 3:06 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #25.1   Dan

      Maybe you should use the stairs and save the folks who use the lifts the burden of your judgement.

      May 22, 2012 at 9:02 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #25.2   Sue

      Why do you and everyone else think taking the elevator is a sign of laziness? To me it’s fun. I still get a rush out of that brief “smoosh” in the stomach that some elevators give me when they start up. I don’t smoke, drink, or party-I’m a very dull person, but riding elevators is one of those small, free things I can do that makes me happy. If you don’t like it, take the stairs!

      May 24, 2012 at 3:11 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #25.3   Poltergeist

      Sue, your post made me smile. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying the simple things in life. If me taking the elevator just because I feel like it bothers somebody so much, then their life must be devoid of little pleasures.

      May 24, 2012 at 7:09 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #26   Halla

    Why would I care what some anonymous idiot judges me as? As if someone can ‘judge’ a person fat anyway. “OMG he’s totally using his Fat Judging superpower! Aaargh I just gained twenty pounds!!” Yeah, no.

    Take the stairs, take the escalator. Go the wrong way on the escalator and pretend it’s a travelator. Spend half the day going up and down in the elevator and shouting ‘Wheeeeeee!’ like a big kid – it’s none of my business and they’re all perfectly valid methods of getting between the floors of a building.

    May 22, 2012 at 3:34 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #26.1   kermit

      For what it’s worth, if someone is messing with the elevator by say, pressing all the buttons to make it stop on every floor, I feel obliged to kick them in the shins. I mean, since we’re being childish and all.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:38 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #26.2   H for Toy

      I wish I could thumb “Fat Judging superpower” another 250 times.

      May 24, 2012 at 11:18 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #27   Dane Zeller

    * Other reasons to take the elevator:

    You’re an infant.
    You and your brother are conjoined twins.
    You only get around by shuffling your feet.
    You can recognize numerals on a button.
    They are stairs built by Escher construction co.

    May 22, 2012 at 7:12 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #27.1   Halla

      Heh, yeah. Also, one that occurred to me – in some newer buildings they hide the stairwell somewhere and don’t signpost it very well. Especially hospitals, for some reason. OK you’d need to be pretty new at a job not to know where the stairs are but if you’re visiting a building for the first time and you can’t find the stairs it’s hard to climb them. ;-)

      May 22, 2012 at 9:06 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #27.2   Noelegy

      Other side of the argument: I personally don’t like elevators. I’m not really sure why. I’m not claustrophobic, and I don’t fear heights. I have regular appointments at a building where I’m forced to take the elevator to the third floor, because the stairwells are hidden! It annoys me supremely.

      May 23, 2012 at 3:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #28   fff

    How the hell can you tell someone is injured just by looking at them? Oh, wait, you can’t. If you’re judging someone for taking the elevator by first sight, all you can tell is that you’re a bigot.
    I’m fat, but I also have non-fat related problems that zap my energy- without elevators, I couldn’t go to school, because the walk up the stairs would take too much out of me. As I have only ever seen about 10 other people total on the elevator in the 4 years I’ve been attending this school, I know I’m not inconveniencing anyone else. And yet people like you and the majority of these commenters think it’s ok to judge me as a disgusting,lazy slob because I can’t take the stairs. Even if I could, what the hell stake do you have in it? Is your life really that affected by a stranger’s elevator ride?

    May 22, 2012 at 7:23 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #29   Isabelle

    Just how “healthy” is taking the stairs, anyway? Now, I bike commute year round, am vegan, don’t watch television and do a bunch of other obnoxious, self-righteous things, so I’m definitely on the stair-climbing tip. (And I work in a building where I have to climb a lot of stairs every day.)

    Based on my extensive stair-climbing experience, I have to say that climbing the stairs once or maybe twice a day really isn’t that physically significant. I climb the stairs a ton every day, and even then it’s not a significant part of my physical activity. If you’re not climbing a LOT of stairs and you’re not doing it multiple times a day, you aren’t burning many calories or raising your heart-rate or increasing your lung capacity or building muscle. You might as well not bother. That’s why at the actual gym there are stair machines.

    So why do we make a big fuss about people climbing the stairs?* I’d argue that it’s one of those dumb “common sense” things that serves as a symbolic gesture and statement of identity – “sure, it doesn’t actually make a real difference to do this, but I will do it to show that I understand and conform to social norms”. And of course, it’s also a good way to maintain the circuit of judgement/guilt that keeps people motivated – “I have to do this, or I might turn into one of those awful people, and then people like me would judge me because I would be awful”.

    I’m sure someone else has pointed this out upthread, but there are also plenty of invisible disabilities out there. I sprained my ankle a couple of years ago, it never healed right and last winter it was kicking up something terrible, and there were a couple of days when I couldn’t do stairs at all. Then of course there are folks with heart defects or folks having a mild MS episode, or folks with sciatica, etc etc etc.

    *At my job in a Very Tall Building in a Very Large Research and Medical Complex, it costs something like a dime to run the elevator for a complete floor to ceiling trip, and they implore us to cut use to save money.

    May 22, 2012 at 8:12 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #29.1   jc's sister

      Not to mention, stairs are scary! Don’t you guys watch criminal minds?

      May 22, 2012 at 11:17 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #29.2   The Elf

      And filled with pools of urine! What, you want my pant cuffs to be stinky?

      May 22, 2012 at 12:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #30   JC

    This is incredibly fucked up, and if I knew who posted that sign, I’d want to sit on them with my fat ass too.
    And guess what geniuses: You can’t SEE every disability either.
    I’m fat, but you can’t SEE if I’m having a bad allergy day. Sometimes people are just fucking TIRED.
    And people who work hard and DO shit are sometimes entitled to be lazy.
    In short, mind your fucking business. Get wound out about something else, because you’re a supreme dick if you get worked up about a fatty taking the elevator.

    May 22, 2012 at 8:13 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #30.1   SilentPsycho

      Amen! There’s a lift in my work that only goes up one floor, and I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve taken it just because I was tired. I work on my feet all day, and sometimes it’s faster and easier just to go up that way.

      Plus, it’s always fun to be in there as the door opens, revealing me to the latest group of pains in the arse that need to be thrown out.

      May 22, 2012 at 4:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #30.2   Pit Pat

      What about people who work hard and DON’T shit? Aren’t they entitled to be lazy?

      May 22, 2012 at 9:53 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #30.3   The Elf

      If they’re work hard and don’t shit, they’re heading for an Elvis situation. So their relative laziness is moot.

      May 24, 2012 at 6:58 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #30.4   Pit Pat

      I know I turn into Elvis when I don’t have my morning constitutional.

      May 24, 2012 at 8:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #30.5   The Elf

      Thin Elvis or Fat Elvis? And do you take the elevator?

      May 24, 2012 at 12:15 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #30.6   Pit Pat

      Awesome Elvis. And stairs. That’s how I stay regular!

      May 24, 2012 at 8:58 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #31   JC

    And just because someone is fat, doesn’t mean they’re ‘lazy’ either. Trust me.
    I have a sister who’s not fat, and she’s one of the laziest fucking people I know.

    May 22, 2012 at 8:15 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #31.1   your sister

      You say that as if that’s a bad thing!

      May 22, 2012 at 11:15 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #32   aj

    Just a point – in every building I’ve worked in, the lobby stairwell doors are locked. You can get out of them, but not in – security reasons. If some company other than mine has the lower floors, I may not be able to get to their stairwell doors in order to climb the remaining floors to mine. Traveling within our floors, sure – take the stairs. But there isn’t always a choice in some buildings.

    May 22, 2012 at 9:40 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #33   lazy

    I hate the people at the office who take the elevator up and down from the 2nd floor. Skinny or fat, you ask me to push two and you will get some serious stink eye from me.

    May 22, 2012 at 10:39 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #33.1   Kate

      So you’re also on the elevator when they’re asking you to push a button?

      Kinda hypocritical, no?

      Unless, of course, you’re hired to push elevator buttons and transport people between floors – which in that case, shut the hell up and do your job and stop judging people as if you’re any better than anyone else.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:24 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #33.2   jason


      May 22, 2012 at 4:25 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #33.3   Amanda6

      Huh? Kate, I don’t get your comment at all. If “lazy” is going up from the lobby, or coming down from the higher floor to the lobby, it makes total sense that s/he would be on the elevator when someone needs a stop at the 2nd floor.

      May 24, 2012 at 3:02 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #33.4   Poltergeist

      Kate’s point is that it’s stupid to be pissed at somebody for taking the elevator while you’re also on the elevator.

      May 24, 2012 at 7:19 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #34   yolanda

    I’m fat. I usually take the stairs if I’m going less than four floors. I usually walk or bike places. I usually carry things instead of finding help or wheels. I am very very active. I eat healthy moderate portions. You don’t know why I’m fat and it’s none of your business. You don’t know why today was a day I chose to use an elevator. Again, none of your business. Go mind your own business.

    May 22, 2012 at 11:15 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #34.1   redheadwglasses

      I love this, mostly because of the “Go mind your own business.” Love it.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:55 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #35   redheadwglasses

    I remember in college, our dorm was a 10-story building, women’s floors were 1-3, men’s were 4-10. Women who took the elevators DOWN from the first or second floors were shunned by many. One guy would even tell the girls, “The only way you’re getting on this elevator is with a broken leg. Want me to give you one?”

    May 22, 2012 at 12:36 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #35.1   Poltergeist

      And in response, did she inform him that the elevator can be used by anybody who wishes to use it and then proceed to kick him in the balls for being an entitled dumbfuck?

      As buff, manly, chivalrous lady-leg-breakers, the men should have no problem with taking the stairs anyway.

      May 22, 2012 at 1:19 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #35.2   SilentPsycho

      My response to that guy would be “Do you want to have children in the future? I can remove that possibility.”

      May 22, 2012 at 4:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #35.3   FunChefChick bang

      “Sure! Were you planning to finish college from your prison cell, or what? Also .. please to meet my tazer.”

      Seriously, WTF?! I hope someone reported that guy.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:03 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #35.4   Sue

      It’s amazing how many men (boys) think it’s funny to threaten to break a woman’s legs, arms, face, etc.

      May 24, 2012 at 3:14 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #36   MandaT

    I’m a bit on the fat side, and I take the elevator most of the time. I’m sorry, but the grinding sensation in my knees and ankles from sports injuries over the years (21+ years of playing softball, at least 10 of which were as catcher) is not exactly appealing. I go walking, I swim, and I occasionally run, but there are few things that gross me out more than that grinding feeling. Elevator, please! And if you judge me, I’ll tell you about my ankles and knees, and the polycystic ovaries that keep me from losing weight, and make it easier to gain, as well. People, stop freaking judging based on appearances!!!

    May 22, 2012 at 1:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #37   jason

    The people in these comments are hella mad. What is it about this note in particular that has struck a nerve so deeply? Almost every note they post on here is a douchey overreaction and this is no different….

    May 22, 2012 at 4:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #37.1   BDizzle

      It’s the fat thing. It hits too close to home for a LOT of people and they get all riled up about it.

      May 22, 2012 at 11:23 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #37.2   Amanda6

      Hit a nerve. Some letters are doucheyness directed specifically at someone, and some letters are like this, which is directed at anyone. Given the old maxim that people love talking about themselves, this letter offers the perfect opportunity for everyone to overshare about why they take the elevator and therefore the letter-writer is WRONG.

      May 24, 2012 at 3:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #37.3   The Elf

      It’s PAN. The letter-writer is usually wrong. Or at least wrongly passive-aggressive.

      May 25, 2012 at 7:51 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #37.4   Unperturbed

      It’s because a lot of the commenters are fat and it hit a nerve. Honestly, 85% of the comments begin with “I’m fat, but it’s because…”

      Granted, the note-writer is a self-righteous snot who incorrectly thinks her opinions matter.

      Sep 7, 2012 at 11:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #38   RubySun bang

    Stairs are a menace

    May 22, 2012 at 4:34 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #39   fuzzbutt

    Hey LOOK AT ME!!! I look perfectly normal, maybe a little overweight, but guess what?? I’m handicapped! I can’t TAKE the stairs! I have a condition that isn’t visable, so don’t be judging me by the way the way I look! The doctor gave me a handicap parking plaque for a reason, I have to take the elevator for a reason. GOD I hate judgemental assholes who think because you “look” normal that you are just fine.

    May 22, 2012 at 4:37 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #40   me me me

    This has to be the weirdest set of comments on PAN in a long, long time.

    I started skimming half way through but, seriously, no sarky comments on the punctuation, syntax or grammar?? What’s gotten into your readers?

    No outrage at the psychotic tendencies of someone who judges – and dismisses a whole class of people – elevator users – by leaving a note WITH A CARTOON and then tries to qualify their madness with an asterisk.

    Instead we get a fit v. unfit and fat v. unfat debate as if there was a valid point in the PAN in the first place. Again, weird, I say.

    Instead a

    May 22, 2012 at 4:49 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #40.1   Pit Pat

      I posted a sNarky comment above!! (and, learn to spell/type)

      May 22, 2012 at 9:56 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #41   tuqoa

    Wow, that’s ridiculous. I’m 108lbs and I still take the escalator/elevator for a floor or two. It’s relaxing! People need to get over themselves and stop caring so much about stuff that is none of their business and have no idea about.

    May 22, 2012 at 5:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #42   Greg House

    Yeah, everyone needs to mind their own damn business-you don’t need to know why people are taking the elevator or stairs.

    May 22, 2012 at 6:26 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #43   CC

    Dear Sign-Maker,

    Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, you judgmental illiterate fuck.

    May 22, 2012 at 6:30 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #43.1   lazy bitch

      Correction! I think the sign maker rode in on a douche canoe.

      May 22, 2012 at 8:25 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #43.2   Dana

      No, they’re being judge-y because they’re not getting anywhere near the douche canoes and they’re pissy about it.

      May 23, 2012 at 12:20 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #44   sam

    go ahead and judge me.

    i really don’t care.

    May 22, 2012 at 6:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #45   Sduck

    I have days when I’m so sore from exercise that I can barely lift my legs. And yeah, in that case, I’m taking the damned elevator to the 2nd floor. I don’t care if it means some whiner has to ride 30 seconds longer to get their pizza, beer and cheesy bread up to their 7th floor apartment.

    May 22, 2012 at 7:08 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #46   Dana

    I am overweight. I have Lupus, and I get dizzy a lot. I also have PCOS, and a bad knee from an injury where I dislocated my kneecap and four years of not fixing it let to nerve damage and now near-non-existent cartilage on the back after surgery to remove the useless mush that was catching on my nerve endings and making my leg collapse. Yes, I try to use the stairs when I can, but some days, I just can’t do it. If you catch me on a bad day and I’m taking the elevator, well, all I gotta say is, if you’ve got a problem with that, you’re gonna get your ass handed to you.

    May 23, 2012 at 12:24 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #47   angie

    Ah, fat people. The last group it’s socially acceptable to discriminate against.

    May 23, 2012 at 5:53 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #47.1   Noelegy

      Nope…Southerners will be the last socially acceptable targets of ridicule. :(

      May 23, 2012 at 3:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #47.2   FeRD bang

      Well, if Southerners would just stop being so ridiculous;-)


      May 25, 2012 at 4:23 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #48   JC

    Someone needs to make another sign for the assholes that don’t get it.
    Your shaming of fat people is not going to magically make them ‘do’ something about it.
    If they want to do something, they’ll do it on their own time, and not because some stranger was a dick.

    May 23, 2012 at 8:14 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #48.1   The Elf

      Yeah, another sign’ll help.

      May 23, 2012 at 8:23 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #49   Alyson O'Holic

    Oh f*ck yes – I totally judge the people who take the elevator from the first to the second floor. Seriously?

    May 23, 2012 at 11:40 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #49.1   dave

      oh f*k you didn’t! – I totally care that a little (ha!) body obsessive twat judges me. :roll:

      May 23, 2012 at 12:40 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #50   T

    I don’t LOOK impaired.

    But I am.

    I have Rheumatoid Arthritis, a debilitating condition where my immune system attacks the healthy tissues in my joints, resulting in irritation, redness, swelling, and extreme pain when weight or pressure is applied to the affected joints.

    With a rigorous regime of expensive self-injections, NSAIDs (anti-inflammatory painkillers) and weekly doses of chemo drugs (with their own unpleasant side effects) for the rest of my life, I can, on some days, manage to get around just fine. I can do an hour on the elliptical, and another hour of free weights. Maybe even some yoga.

    On flare-up days, it’s nearly impossible to move without wincing. Imagine a larger size of those squishy anti- carpal tunnel balls, rolled in broken glass, and inserted in your knee joint. Walking up stairs can sometimes feel like that. Every step up or down the stairs puts pressure on that joint, and makes me wince in pain, and it was hard enough for me to walk into the building from the parking lot.

    Now, I’m no elite athlete. I’ve got more pounds than I should carry on my frame. But you’re wrong when you write me off as lacking in basic motivation. So, when you see me taking the elevator to the second or third floor, your hostile assumption that I am just plain lazy is incorrect, and makes you a HUGE asshole.

    And you’re a HUGE asshole when you see me leave my car in a handicap space and assume I must’ve taken someone else’s placard because I’m not visibly limping or in a wheelchair, aka “handicapped enough to satisfy your narrow definition of disabled”.

    But most of all, you’re a HUGE asshole for universally equating being overweight with being lazy and lacking in motivation. People can be fat and lazy, but one is never necessarily indicative of the other. Just like some skinny people are dangerously unhealthy.

    TL;DR version: Feel free to mind your own fucking business, Little Miss/Mr. Elevator Nazi.

    May 23, 2012 at 5:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #51   Tatterdemalion

    Plus five points for the footnote about people who are injured, in a wheelchair or carrying something heavy. Minus ten points for assuming they’ll know whether someone has an injury or not. I’m a size 8, under 30 years old, and get plenty of dirty looks for taking the elevator up to the second floor… and I also have an invisible systemic problem with my connective tissue. I REALLY REALLY want to exercise more, and I do when I can. But a too-long walk carrying so much as a laptop bag can lead to a debilitating tension headache, so I’ve learned the hard way that I need to be careful about how much I do.

    May 23, 2012 at 7:37 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #51.1   Chris Miller

      I’m medically underweight which plays havoc with my health. I also have old sports injuries especially in my joints and calves. I look young and healthy if I’m not using my cane but a hell of a lot of fat people are MUCH healthier than I am.

      Jul 18, 2012 at 2:49 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #52   notolaf

    My first thought was, “Pretty good handwriting for a drunken, callow ass.”

    May 23, 2012 at 10:03 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #53   Amy

    Just an FYI, the mom from the book and movie “We Need to Talk About Kevin” used to talk shit about overweight people all the time. Did she create a bias in her son about overweight people or people who weren’t good enough? Hmmm… Something to think about.

    May 23, 2012 at 11:10 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #54   Mantis bang

    This thread is full of sanctimonious hypocrites. We all judge others at first sight. We’re genetically programmed to do so; pattern recognition is critical to survival. You can pretend you aren’t judgmental, but that just makes you a big fucking liar. Maybe you don’t harshly judge fat folks, but I know there’s some other type of person the mere sight of which makes you cringe, laugh or seethe.

    The problem isn’t that we have biases, but that so many of us are unable to see past them to what truly matters.

    May 24, 2012 at 7:52 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #54.1   The Elf

      Most of us don’t make signs about it, though. That’s really the difference between a normal person and a douche canoe.

      May 24, 2012 at 8:12 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #55   Beev

    Fat people deserve ridicule and embarrassment. Daily.

    Sure, it’s their choice to be fat. They have every right. I’ll still deem them worthless.

    May 24, 2012 at 9:58 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #55.1   Kate

      Says the dumbass whose name is Beev.

      May 24, 2012 at 11:05 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #55.2   Beev

      I like how you didn’t refute anything I said. Like the first poster said, if the shoe fats.

      Enjoy your life, fatty.

      May 24, 2012 at 3:01 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #55.3   We hate Beev

      Shut up Beev. You’re an asshole. See how easy it is to be judgemental?

      May 24, 2012 at 5:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #55.4   Jami

      Allow me to refute.

      There are medications that make people fat that they need to live.

      There are medical condictions such as thyroid disorders, Poly Cystic Ovary Syndrome, and other problems that make people fat.

      And there are people who are fat because of traumatic events in their past such as sexual assaults. So they eat as a way to escape. Or because they think if they’re fat enough no one will ever rape them again. (Of course, there are fat rape victims. But it’s hard to think logically when even the homeless scizophrenics on law & Order: SVU could model for Victoria’s Secret.)

      So why don’t you take your assumptions and blow them out your ear?

      May 27, 2012 at 12:09 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #56   H for Toy

    I feel like I know you all much better now. I know who’s 252 pounds and who’s 108. I know which of you has lupus, RA, asthma, weak ankles, and possibly, genital warts. I feel much closer to you all now, and I’d like to thank PAN for the opportunity to get to know you all, much, much better.

    May 24, 2012 at 11:01 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #57   Comocat

    What we really need is a PA note about fat people smoking in their poorly parked cars. That should easily break some records.

    May 24, 2012 at 12:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #57.1   The Elf

      Gotta work vegans and outdoor cats in it somehow.

      May 24, 2012 at 2:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #57.2   H for Toy

      Fat people smoking in their poorly parked cars, after having run over their neighbor’s outdoor cat in their haste to run away from the scene of the vegan-lunchroom-stealing crime?

      May 24, 2012 at 3:42 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #57.3   AlfaCowboy

      …as long as we can put laxative in the fat smoking cat’s vegan lunch.

      Fat smoking cat…Just how I like ‘em.

      May 24, 2012 at 3:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #57.4   Poltergeist

      That would blow all other PA notes out of the water. Genius!

      May 24, 2012 at 7:31 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #58   Hopea

    I’ll admit I’m fat. It’s not like I could deny it anyway… It is rather obvious.
    And I take the stairs.
    What do you say to that?

    May 24, 2012 at 2:18 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #59   Dana

    My cat is fat. She takes the stairs at least 15 times a day. At top speed. She’s still fat, though.

    May 24, 2012 at 3:25 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #60   AlfaCowboy

    You can’t judge me. Only God can judge me. Look, my neck tattoo says so. Stop being such a hater, you trick ass bustah.

    May 24, 2012 at 3:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #61   Nikita

    I used to live on the 8th floor of a highrise (high rise by Winnipeg, MB standards anyway,…) and I took the stairs up to my apartment everyday,…
    I’m also,… dare I say it,…. OH EM GEE…. ….. fat! (not morbidly, but I do okay :P )

    Why is it socially acceptable to be thin out of shape and lazy, but to be healthy relatively fit and overweight so offensive?

    I’ve never had the urdge to comment or yell at underweight people for being “unhealthy”, yet it is proven to be much more dangerous as far as the impact on physical health,….

    I guess I just don’t get it.

    May 24, 2012 at 7:51 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #62   anon

    Because this nation doesn’t have an epidemic of skinny people that’s costing society millions of dollars in health care problems, that’s why.

    Realistically, the number of people who have health problem correlated with/from being skinny is much, much less than those who have problems correlated with/from being fat.

    May 25, 2012 at 9:12 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #62.1   Nikita

      Then why doesn’t this apply to all common unhealthy behaviours?

      Smoking, riding a bike without a helmet, speeding?

      These people are killing themselves as well as others, they are costing millions of dollars in health care,….
      They still are not stigmatized the way fat people are,….

      May 28, 2012 at 11:48 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #63   Jenn67

    When you have relapsing-remitting MS,
    when you have a knee that randomly goes out on you while walking,
    when you have 11 lesions in your brain,
    when you have a lesion in your spinal column that can lead to paralysis,
    when said lesions cause stumbling and balance issues,
    when temperatures over 95 sap you of all energy, and
    when walking DOWN the stairs to get to your car totally exhausts you,
    ONLY then can you judge me for taking the elevator up or down a floor. Otherwise, STFU.

    May 25, 2012 at 3:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #64   El

    One semester in school I had to take the elevator up single floors. No one at my university does this unless in a wheelchair/on crutches or carrying big loads. People looked at me like I was the worst.

    However I had been in a major car accident that summer where I was flung from a vehicle going 70 miles an hour. I broke my coccyx and I severed my ACL in my right knee. Looking at me I looked fine (I’m about 30 pounds over weight but most of that came from not being able to walk much anymore much less exercise over the summer, since January I have lost 20lbs because I got my knee fixed) but actually I was in a ton of pain and had been told by my doctor to take the stairs as little as possible.

    Appearances can be deceiving, but mostly it just plain isn’t anyone’s business.

    May 26, 2012 at 1:02 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #65   Sorcha

    You know, I have to say that despite the occasional douchey comment in here, I found this thread very heartening. At a lot of sites, the comments would be just as full of fat-shaming and meanness as the original note, but not here. As a fat person with multiple chronic conditions that prevent me from doing more than taking the occasional walk, the “you don’t know what someone’s health is like” and the “it’s none of your business” comments make me feel better about humanity. That’s usually the opposite of what happens when you read comments on the Internet.

    May 26, 2012 at 2:47 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #66   mostlynotfat

    just because the apartment you found is on the second floor doesn’t mean you have to pretend you live in a crappy walk-up. take the elevator. are others so lazy they cant wait for the doors to open and close?

    May 26, 2012 at 10:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #67   Snoofy bang

    So instead of making a sign, why didn’t the PAN-writing idiot *take the freaking stairs?*

    First time post here. Hi everybody. Want some delicious cheese?

    May 27, 2012 at 3:37 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #68   Shaydie

    I don’t appreciate this. I look young and fit but have pulmonary fibrosis/sarcoidosis of the lung/rheumatoid issues and will take an elevator one floor in a flare up. Nice to know there are people silently judging. Same people who let me stand on a 40 minute bus ride even though I have a disability pass because my legs are fine.

    May 27, 2012 at 11:38 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #69   Person

    Elevators are just fun! I d0n’t come across them often so when there’s one, use it even if it’s only a floor and i’m perfectly capable of taking the stairs.

    May 27, 2012 at 2:28 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #70   vegangeekgirl bang

    Actually people who are really overweight shouldn’t take the stairs because it doesn’t help that much and can create havoc on their knees (I got that from a doctor and are not just making things up) a
    nyway I don’t see the big deal if somebody for whatever reason don’t want to take the stairs.
    I sometimes take the stairs but not that often, my balance is off and well let’s just say I fallen down and up quite a lot of stairs in my days.
    We live on the 4th floor and most of the time I can’t be bothered with the stairs.

    Also in some houses that where built before there was a law that said that you need to have an elevator in houses with a certain amount of floors the elevator and shaft is installed after the house is built which means that what little is left of the stairs really sucks and most people avoid them at all costs.

    May 27, 2012 at 8:40 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #71   Snoofy bang

    My dorm had six flights and no elevator. It was built before the laws. The hike wasn’t fun in summer. There was no air conditioning in any of the buildings either.

    So why didn’t the note writer take the stairs?

    May 29, 2012 at 12:32 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #72   acheyknees

    Kindly keep your judgements to yourself. I may not be visibly disabled or injured, but if the osteoarthritis in my knees could talk, it would be screaming at you to fuck the hell off.

    Jun 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #73   Skippy

    I have congestive heart failure, but am quite thin. You would not know it to look at me that it is impossible for me to walk up 2 flights of stairs on some days. So what would this person say to me? That I’m lazy? Yeah, the old “walk a mile in someone else’s shoes” fits here. They can keep their opinions to themselves IMO.

    Jun 22, 2012 at 6:12 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #74   Sass

    I wouldn’t say people are fat because they take the elevators to floors 2 or 3, it just seems lazy, especially if you’re a perfectly healthy looking young person. Especially because waiting for the elevator can take longer than walking up to the second floor of some buildings…

    Jun 28, 2012 at 5:08 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #75   Sez

    I live in Christchurch NZ where stairwells are often cracked to pieces. Every time I have to decide between a lift and a staircase, I imagine another earthquake hitting and which one I’d rather be in. The lift always wins somehow.

    Jun 28, 2012 at 4:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #75.1   Chris Miller


      Honestly I just try not to go into tall buildings. Or Riccarton Mall. Or Ballantynes. (I’ve heard stories about the contractors who worked on it deciding never to go in there…)

      You’re probably right though, the lift should have plenty of safety mechanisms to stop it falling, the stairs on the other hand…

      Jul 18, 2012 at 2:53 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

  • #76   red

    FUCK that bitch. I have asthma.

    Jul 9, 2012 at 2:12 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

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