A wife of noble character…does all the dishes?

April 16th, 2014 · 97 comments

Writes Julia, a student at an evangelical university in Indiana: “In our graduate student offices, there are more crusty dishes and microbial communities to be found than in the labs next door. After four weeks of mugs, oatmeal bowls and lunch containers had built up, one lad took the most effective course of action and posted this encouraging note for us single ladies to know what it takes to catch ourselves a guy just like him.”

A wife of noble character, who can find?... She sets about her work vigorously; her arms strong for the tasks... She watches over the affairs [dishes] of her household and does not eat the bread of idleness. Proverbs 31 selections, NIV

related: Life at a Christian college

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  • #1   Jami

    “Quit misquoting and misinterpreting my works and do your own damn dishes before I smite you, you last putz!” – God

    Apr 16, 2014 at 3:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #1.1   Jami

      *sighs* Lazy, not last. Can we PLEASE get an editor that WORKS?!

      Apr 16, 2014 at 3:25 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.2   Lil'

      Perhaps we should pray for one, Jami.

      Apr 16, 2014 at 3:31 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.3   Belle

      I knew what you meant, and I couldn’t have said it better myself :-)

      Apr 16, 2014 at 3:54 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.4   Jami

      In my defense this writer’s stupid letter put me into such a blind rage that it’s amazing I didn’t type “AHDLASHLKASHDFUCKYOUYOUFUCKINGFUCKHEADFUCKOASHDOSIAHDJKLSKISSMYFUCKINGASSYOULAZYPIECEOFSHIT!” instead.

      But I’m glad you got it, Belle.

      And Lil’ – I don’t think God does web design. Some things we humans have to do for ourselves. But maybe the appropriate sacrifice of strippers and Peanut Butter M&Ms will get the great God Of PAN to put in a new post editor.

      Apr 16, 2014 at 4:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.5   Belle

      Hell, I’ll throw in some of those birthday cake M&M’s if that will help us get a better post editor.

      Apr 16, 2014 at 6:11 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.6   Lita bang

      I’ll bake some cupcakes if that helps.

      Apr 16, 2014 at 6:25 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.7   FeRD bang

      No, god definitely does not do web design. Barking up the wrong plane, there. Here, take this piece of chalk. How’re you at pentagrams…?

      Apr 16, 2014 at 7:24 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.8   Jami

      Oooo – if I summon a crossroads demon to get this done thing I can get a chance to kiss Crowley?

      Apr 16, 2014 at 7:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.9   Poltergeist

      “Shut the fuck up.” – God
      Proverbs 42:69

      Apr 17, 2014 at 3:05 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.10   Tesselara

      Jami! Way to bring Supernatural into the thread!

      Apr 17, 2014 at 8:53 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.11   FeRD bang

      Did she bring it in? Or has it always been here, just waiting for Jami to call attention to it? ;-)

      I need to, like, see that show someday. Or, maybe I don’t, but seems like it would make things easier since I keep running into references to it.

      I’ll add it to my list, after “Firefly”. (…Yes, really. I am ashame. :oops: )

      Apr 17, 2014 at 9:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.12   Tesselara

      OH! Watch them both! Firefly first! You’re missing on a truly epic show. Plus, there’s a ton of eye-candy for both genders, so there’s that.

      Apr 18, 2014 at 9:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.13   Phoenix

      “Look guys, the strong arms and watching over “affairs”…I was talking about sex. Get your head out of the sink” -God

      Apr 21, 2014 at 4:05 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #1.14   Nowax

      Firefly and Serenity (the movie based on the show) are available for streaming on Netflix.

      Apr 24, 2014 at 11:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #2   missred

    Geesh Jami, take a chill pill. I thought it was quite amusing. Especially at an evangelical college. The submitter says it was a lad who wrote the note. No evidence of that. Could have been me.

    Apr 16, 2014 at 6:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #2.1   Nope.

      No, that note was sexist, demeaning, and exactly the type of shit that gives Christians a bad name–picking and choosing select words from the Bible and twisting them to fit their goals. Pretty sure the Bible also preaches the benefits of hard work and responsibility for yourself and others. That “lad” is, frankly, an ass.

      Apr 16, 2014 at 6:21 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.2   FeRD bang

      The fact that the Book™ so revered by so many contains (among other things) some truly whopping tales of sexist assery… doesn’t really make this funny, missred.

      Quite the opposite.

      Especially considering how many people argue for literal interpretations. (SRSLY? I don’t even interpret STOP signs literally! …OK, that’s a lie.)

      Apr 16, 2014 at 7:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.3   kermit

      I don’t think it gives Christians a bad name. I think it gives evangelical colleges a bad name.

      No offence, but these “colleges” should have a bad name because they don’t provide people with a real education and foster the kind of close-minded and entitled attitudes displayed in that PAN. And in case it’s not clear: I have no problem with people wanting to study a particular religion. I do have a problem with for-profit colleges charging people money for it while providing its students with no real skills at the end of it. Studying religion for your own personal edification and/or peace of mind is all well and good. But it doesn’t mix with science, accounting, law or health policy – which is really what these “colleges” try to mix it with when they claim to provide a religious slant to their education.

      Apr 16, 2014 at 8:56 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.4   Manny

      Please don’t paint all evangelic colleges with the same brush—there are a few that *do* foster environments that do not challenge students to expand their thinking, question their believes, and develop useful skills, but many do a swell job in offering students a strong academic environment.

      I graduated from a good evangelical liberal arts college, went on to earn a graduate degree at a good public university, and now teach at good public university. Many people I graduated with also do good, fulfilling work and are quite capable of critical thinking.

      That said, things like this note are all too common in many Christian colleges, usually because some people are not mature enough in their faith to realize it is a tool for helping others, not shaming or oppressing them. And, the Church in general has done a bad job in teaching people this—especially the men.

      Also, since most of these schools tend be liberal arts schools, they *are* perpetuating a kind of education that is becoming less and less valued in the economic sector—majors like history, English, and foreign language are not as in demand as majors like IT, business, finance, etc—so maybe that is actually where your real criticism lies. Our world has changed pretty rapidly in the last fifteen years or so, and the smaller, liberal arts colleges are struggling to modernize and compete with their limited resources. They tend to be more academics-focused than career-focused, which while I think educating people a little in everything is great, it may no longer be economically practical, which is a great loss to our culture. I think.

      Apr 17, 2014 at 7:33 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.5   The Elf

      Sorry, I didn’t get a “just joking” or “snarky” or “sarcastic” vibe from this note at all. I got pure, unadulterated sexism.

      He sounds like such a catch, doesn’t he? Well, I suppose since women only go to college for an MRS degree, they better catch the first train that comes along.

      (Now that was sarcasm).

      Apr 17, 2014 at 7:35 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.6   Jami

      No, Misred. This is NOT funny because it’s the kind of crap put up by people who don’t REALLY believe in God, they believe they ARE God.

      I wish I could see their faces when they end up in Hell for pulling this kind of bullshit.

      Apr 17, 2014 at 7:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.7   kermit

      Whoa there, somebody forgot to take their B vitamins today. Do they send out a quarterly newsletter with the threshold between Hell and Heaven that you know writing a PAN is a ticket to Hell?

      Or are you talking about Hell, Michigan?

      Apr 17, 2014 at 6:21 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.8   Tesselara

      Well, we should always do what the bible says–isn’t there a bit in there about a guy deciding to be such a good host that he offered his virgin daughters as nighttime pleasure for some random strangers/guests?

      Apr 17, 2014 at 8:55 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.9   FeatherBlade

      Who, Lot? Nah, he offered his (possibly) virgin daughters (there is some mention of sons-in-law later) to a horny mob that wanted to rape some random (male) travelers who’d stopped at Lot’s house. The mob, unsurprisingly, refused his offer.

      And that, children, is the etymology of the word “sodomy”.

      *the more you know*

      Apr 18, 2014 at 4:16 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.10   Tesselara

      Ooh! Let’s do more of that too! Ahh, the bible.

      And als0–what’s with virginity in the bible? I always felt kind of bad for Joseph.

      Do you think “virgin” was less “still hymenated” and more “only had sex with the one guy–the husband” back then?

      Apr 18, 2014 at 9:44 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.11   Iwill FindU

      I remember some guys at my bible college wrote a note along the same lines. Whining that the campus girls kept dumping him and his friends. The best burn from a professor of “if this is the attitude of the “christian” males on campus perhaps we need not look further for why the educated christian ladies keep breaking up with them.”

      Apr 19, 2014 at 1:29 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.12   Belaani

      Kermit, there’s no more room in hell. Some chemistry student explained why.

      Apr 19, 2014 at 5:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.13   kermit

      Er, have you checked the house prices in Michigan? There’s plenty of room in Hell. And it’s cheap, too!

      Apr 19, 2014 at 5:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.14   Lita bang

      Ah, thermodynamics.

      Actually, that supposed “answer” to whether Hell exists or not could really quite fit the mold of this note. :D

      Apr 19, 2014 at 8:41 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.15   Imalia

      @Tesselara:

      Oohhh, I actually know this one. There are two words used liberally through the bible, betulah and alemah, that scholars translated to mean virgin. However only betulah actually means virgin, alemah just means young woman, so the answer is, I suspect not so much that virgin was “only slept with husband” but more that half the women described as virgins in the english translated texts were never meant to be described as such.

      Apr 28, 2014 at 10:33 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #2.16   Iwill FindU

      English lacks so much as language. It just seems to offer some of most lackluster translations ever.

      Apr 30, 2014 at 8:43 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #3   Jeanine

    He can partake in the bread of “eat shit and die”….and clean his own damn dishes.

    Apr 16, 2014 at 7:21 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #3.1   underwatervulcan

      I’ll second that.

      Apr 16, 2014 at 8:38 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.2   FeRD bang

      I think when you eat shit, you just throw out the dishes. Seems prudent.

      Apr 17, 2014 at 12:46 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #3.3   Belaani

      If he’s eating shit, then you really want him to do the dishes before he dies.

      Apr 19, 2014 at 5:06 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #4   underwatervulcan

    While I think Julia’s story is interjected with Julias perception of the note-writers motives, the person who wrote it surely likes to flap their jaw like the crane flaps it’s wings in the footer.

    Apr 16, 2014 at 8:46 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #5   Danielle

    How this gets to me. The translation for this section of verse should be “a woman of valor” not a “wife” of anything.

    Also, this section of text is not meant to be instructions for women on how they should behave, but rather an example to men on remembering to praise the women of the household (wives, daughters, mothers, and others!) for all the hard work they do. It is a poem, the male head of the house is meant to say over Shabbat dinner.

    Apr 16, 2014 at 10:09 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #6   1deprogrammed1

    Introduce the putz to this old saw:

    A man and his wife were having an argument about who should brew the coffee each morning. The wife said, “You should do it, because you get up first, and then we don’t have to wait as long to get our coffee.”

    The husband said, ” You are in charge of cooking around here and you should do it, because that is your job, and I can just wait for my coffee.”

    Wife replies, “No, you should do it, and besides, it is in the Bible that the man should do the coffee.”

    Husband replies, “I can’t believe that, show me.”

    So she fetched the Bible, and opened the New Testament and showed him at the top of several pages, that it indeed says…

    “HEBREWS”

    Apr 17, 2014 at 12:49 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #6.1   Poltergeist

      I think I love you.

      Apr 17, 2014 at 2:57 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.2   b-rubble rubble bang

      Did you know God invented baseball? Very first words of the bible: In the big inning …

      Apr 17, 2014 at 8:57 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.3   assiveProgressive

      Also, the coffee maker says Mr. Coffee (r), though a lot of good that does me because, as we used to tell the telemarketers, ”MY HUSBAND IS A CAT”.

      Apr 18, 2014 at 12:19 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #6.4   The Elf

      I’m pretty sure that’s still illegal in all 50 states.

      Apr 18, 2014 at 10:22 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #7   TRT

    “Let he who is without sink cast the first stone.”

    Apr 17, 2014 at 3:55 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #8   Abc

    Even if you feel like the woman/wife should take care of everything in the house, this is an office not the female grad students’ household. Do your own damn dishes.

    Apr 17, 2014 at 7:26 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #9   Dr Chalkwitheringlicktacklefeff

    Personally, I think it’s only fair that wives should do 70% of the dishes if they’re only going to bring home 70% of the money that we bring home.

    Apr 17, 2014 at 7:42 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #9.1   Anna

      That’s not a fair assessment, given that it is not the woman’s fault that our society has decided that her work is worth less than the man’s. If both husband and wife are working full-time, the chores should be split evenly, regardless of income.

      Apr 17, 2014 at 10:48 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.2   Nope.

      I know you’re just “trolling” as the kids say, but by your logic, men should do 30% more dishes than women because they earn 30% more money. If women should do 70% of the work for earning 70% of the money, than a man who is earning 100% should therefore do 100% of the work.

      Apr 17, 2014 at 11:56 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.3   the cat

      or better yet, the couple should decide together what division of bread winning and environment maintaining feels fair to BOTH of them and do it that way

      Apr 17, 2014 at 11:59 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.4   The Elf

      Oooooh, now you’re getting radical, the cat. Imagine, letting each family decide what works best for them!? What kind of country would we be if we just shut up and let people do their own thing?

      And since this is a grad student office and we can safely assume no one is married to another in the office, they should all just do their own damn dishes or stick to disposables.

      Apr 17, 2014 at 12:45 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #9.5   b-rubble rubble bang

      Ooh … Methinks you all doth misread too much … I do believe our good doctor friend is a urologist, for he’s taking the piss out of gender bias …

      Apr 17, 2014 at 8:52 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #10   Chris Baker

    If dishes have been sitting in the office sink for a week, I would toss them in the trash, not leave a note.

    Apr 17, 2014 at 11:53 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #10.1   the cat

      Its not any harder to toss them in the dishwasher than in the trash. It also isn’t too big a deal to set up a chore chart over the sink. Do the dishes and check your name off for the week. Hopefully others will follow your example

      Apr 17, 2014 at 12:02 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.2   Erin

      It’s not about the effort it takes, it’s the principle. Do you dishes in a timely manner or lose them. Simple.

      Apr 17, 2014 at 1:11 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.3   assiveProgressive

      I wonder if Joan tosses dishes in the trash when they have been sitting in the sink for a week.

      Apr 18, 2014 at 12:22 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.4   RonS

      I doubt they have a dishwasher to toss the dish in. This is an office. Why do they need a chore chart? These are graduate students, not 3rd graders. Everyone should wash their own dishes.

      Apr 18, 2014 at 3:07 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.5   the cat

      They need a chore chart because they are acting like 3rd graders

      Apr 18, 2014 at 11:15 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.6   RonS

      Nope, no chore chart. Do your own dishes.

      Apr 18, 2014 at 7:48 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.7   rushgirl2112

      “Its not any harder to toss them in the dishwasher than in the trash.”

      Sorry, no. You don’t have to arrange dishes in the trash. And doing someone else’s job just reinforces the behavior.

      “It also isn’t too big a deal to set up a chore chart over the sink. Do the dishes and check your name off for the week. Hopefully others will follow your example”

      Yeah, good luck with that.

      Apr 20, 2014 at 6:59 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #10.8   Raichu

      There isn’t any excuse for throwing peoples’ things away. I would, however, not have a problem with stuffing them in a bag and putting them in the corner/in a cabinet/walking up to the person who left them and saying “hey, I think you forgot these!”.

      Apr 23, 2014 at 10:43 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #11   Havingfitz

    Jesus wept

    Apr 17, 2014 at 1:01 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #11.1   Lil'

      If only the scripture had said “Jesus swept” this debate would be a lot less complicated.

      Apr 17, 2014 at 3:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #11.2   Tesselara

      HA!

      Apr 17, 2014 at 8:22 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #12   Zero Our Hero

    Well, not to poop on all the self righteous indignation going round here, but have you guys considered that this might be an inside joke? The same way we have pop culture references and geek jokes they have their own evangelical school, biblical culture jokes? I remember in college, I had these Born Again group of friends who were still cool and they’d make biblical references and twist them into jokes that I found puzzling and they found hilarious. this might just be the same situation. Now chill the fuck out, heathens!!!

    Apr 17, 2014 at 2:04 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #12.1   Nic

      Given the fact that the submitter, Julia, is a resident of the college office in question, not a visitor, I think you can be fairly sure that she’d know if it were an in-joke between a group of friends.

      Apr 17, 2014 at 5:57 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.2   The Elf

      I’m not going to *eliminate the possibility* that this is an in-joke or even just a bad joke, but I didn’t get that joke vibe. I also agree with Nic that Julia, being on the inside, would have gotten the in-joke had it been relevant. It’s possible she’s out despite being in, but I think we’re talking long odds.

      Besides, if I can’t get righteously indignant over a presumably sexist note by an anonymous writer at a Evangelical college that I don’t know the name of, what sort of online comment writer could I possibly be?

      Apr 18, 2014 at 10:29 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.3   FeatherBlade

      But then the commenters around here wouldn’t get the chance to be seriously up in arms about a culture they don’t belong to, and don’t understand.

      And what fun would that be?

      Apr 18, 2014 at 4:20 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.4   Zero Our Hero

      Elf, I don not know who you are. I do not know where you get your snarkiness from. But if your snarkiness could be fashioned into a latex structure of humanoid form with vibrating nether regions, I would hunt it down. I would find it. I would buy it.

      Apr 20, 2014 at 9:24 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #12.5   The Elf

      Awwwww. (blush)

      Apr 21, 2014 at 9:33 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
     
  • #13   Belle

    PSA: No man has ever been shot while doing the dishes

    Apr 17, 2014 at 7:12 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #13.1   assiveProgressive

      In my sad little life, a line from Paula Cole’s song about where have all the cowboys gone, oft runs through my head: “I will do the dishes, while you go have a beer.”

      Apr 18, 2014 at 12:26 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #13.2   Victoria

       
    • #13.3   it's naptime

      Paraphrasing mst3k:
      “That guy’s name is Kilbeck. I wish my name was ‘Killpaulacole’.”

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  • #14   Tesselara

    Does his handwriting look like a serial killer’s writing? At the very least, it looks remarkably like “Hell-Will-Freeze-Over-Before-That-Guy-Sees-Any-Naughty-Bits” handwriting.

    Apr 17, 2014 at 9:13 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #14.1   FeRD bang

      Ohhhh, I dunno, Tesselara… we’ve had some doozies when it comes to serial-killer handwriting. I don’t think this one’s even in the running. (Honestly, it mostly looks like my handwriting — so, yes, I can confirm that your intuiting regarding naughty bits is 100% on the mark. But I’ve definitely never committed even one murder, much less a series of them.)

      As far as serial-killer handwriting goes, the examples I could most easily track down…

      The prose in this one definitely helps sell the serial killer vibe…
      passiveaggressivenotes.com/2010/11/14/minnesota-nice/

      I don’t know exactly why, but this one creeps me out.
      passiveaggressivenotes.com/2013/08/01/rage-in-the-shade/

      This one feels serial-killer-y because the letters are mostly so suuuuper-neat. And also, because the author uses the word “insanitary”. Freudian PA?
      passiveaggressivenotes.com/2007/05/28/gentrification-is-insanitary/

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    • #14.2   kermit

      The note is written on crane stationery and he started to write “seductions” before he went back over it to write “selections”. So one may surmise this to be a standard mating ritual.

      “This isn’t a request to wash my dirty dishes, but an opportunity for you to showcase your domestic skills! Now that the state licensing bodies don’t count wife skills as a legit college credit any more, how else are the dishes going to get washed?”

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    • #14.3   The Elf

      FeRD, I have to give you the thumb on citing your references. If I could thumb you twice, I would.

      Apr 18, 2014 at 11:03 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #14.4   The Elf

      BTW, I always thought “thumb you” sounded so dirty. Where exactly am I putting this thumb?

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    • #14.5   kermit

      It sounds dirty because it was one hell of an insult in Shakespearean times. “I bite my thumb at you, sir!” was pretty much the modern equivalent of ef you, your mother and your dog with the pope.

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  • #15   SebbyGrrl

    Indoor or outdoor
    cat?

    Apr 17, 2014 at 11:50 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #15.1   assiveProgressive

      indoor cat licks the dishes when we have dairy products

      Apr 18, 2014 at 12:27 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #15.2   The Elf

      The dishes always sparkle at Assive’s house! That faint fishy odor on them is a little off-putting, though.

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  • #16   SebbyGrrl

    @-)

    Apr 17, 2014 at 11:56 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     
  • #17   Lythande

    You know, perhaps I am naive, but my first thought on reading this was not that it meant “Hey females, do my dishes, like a good little woman” but that it meant “Hey ladies – do your own damn dishes, this sink is nasty”.

    Apr 18, 2014 at 10:33 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #17.1   FeatherBlade

      *shock* But that would be ~reasonable~!

      We can’t have that, there’s indignation to express at those evangelical cavemen!

      Apr 18, 2014 at 4:23 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #17.2   Poltergeist

      Why would he direct the note at just the women? Where is the accompanying bible quote for the men who didn’t do their dishes?

      Apr 19, 2014 at 12:29 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #17.3   Raichu

      Except the message wasn’t “there are some people who haven’t done their dishes who happen to be female”, it was “there are dishes [of unspecified origin] and the people who are female are the ones who need to do them because they’re female”.

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  • #18   Haterade

    Wait a minute… “labs next door”? At an evangelical university? Something smells a bit off here.

    (Besides the dishes, that is.)

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    • #18.1   The Elf

      Hey, climate change won’t disprove itself.

      Apr 18, 2014 at 1:39 pm   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.2   Raichu

      While I find the rejection of much of science by many people of faith annoying, there are still plenty of Christians, even conservative ones, who work in various scientific fields.

      Apr 23, 2014 at 10:54 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

       
    • #18.3   FeatherBlade

      Now, The Elf, nobody’s trying to disprove climate change. Anybody with functioning senses can observe that climates change.

      What won’t disprove itself (at least until the next Ice Age hits) is the idea that Anthropogenic Global Warming (for which the Only Solution is Massive Expenditures of Other Peoples’ Money on Government Programs intended to reduce the First World standards of living to Third World levels) is a) a thing and b) a problem.

      You’ll only confuse people if you change the terms in the middle of the debate.

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    • #18.4   The Elf

      Originally, I chose evolution for that joke. Then I changed my mind. “Too cliche”, I thought, “Too predictable. Too common.” I’m so glad I chose climate change in the end.

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  • #19   Geek Goddess

    Well, if we are going to assign dish duty based on scripture, let’s look into it a little more carefully. 2 Kings 21:13 says, “And I will stretch over Jerusalem the line of Samaria, and the plummet of the house of Ahab; and I will wipe Jerusalem as a man wipeth a dish, wiping it and turning it upside down.”
    Seems pretty clear to me, no?

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  • #20   kaetra

    Dear writers of the Holy Bible – Thanks for the Misogyny!

    Apr 21, 2014 at 11:15 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

    • #20.1   Raichu

      lol. like society was perfectly egalitarian before the Bible was compiled.

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  • #21   lorfdof

    Evangelical colleges have grad students?

    And I thought being a grad student at a regular college was depressing

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  • #22   Raichu

    Wow, what an asshole.

    Apr 23, 2014 at 10:56 am   rating: 90  small thumbs up

     

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